Like Hamas, UNRWA is irreplaceable.

Posted by: AI | Apr 22 2024 17:13 utc | 1

https://twitter.com/EretzIsrael/status/1778757083258638838

EMP Blast Announcement from 12th April:

Israeli media reports suggest that if Iran targets strategic facilities in Israel directly then Jerusalem will likely retaliate with an exceptional response: an electromagnetic attack. Although an electromagnetic bomb has never been used before, its effects are known. It does not harm humans and creates a large EMP (electromagnetic pulse) in surrounding areas, completely destroying all electronic systems. Experts say that an Israeli EMP strike on Iran will “bring it back to the Stone Age”. - (Sources: Daily Times/British)

Check the link for some info graphics.

As the source is Daily Times... well... psyop? :) what you think?

Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Apr 22 2024 17:14 utc | 2

Just speculating: Could this whole F-35/EMP nuke rumor have been planted by Israel itself?

It seems that it does create a deterrent effect on Iran. All Israel needs to do is scramble multiple F35's armed with nukes, and Iran has no reasonable likelihood of being able to shoot them all down.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 22 2024 17:21 utc | 3

Have you noticed that the media isn't covering any of the Israeli PRO-GENOCIDE marches?

Since there are anti-genocide marches... I'm sure there has to be counter argument somewhere.

Posted by: Retaining_H2O | Apr 22 2024 17:34 utc | 4

Quote -

“An argument between the two erupted when Baerbock told Netanyahu that Israel was "driving Gaza towards famine".

According to media reports, Baerbock was shown footage by Netanyahu of markets with supplies of food in the war-ravaged Strip, as well as images of beaches where Palestinians were sunbathing and swimming.

Baerbock responded by saying that the images did not reflect the true humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza…
"It’s real. It’s reality. It’s not like what the Nazis staged, we're not like the Nazis who produced fake images of a manufactured reality," Netanyahu is reported to have said.

According to Israeli broadcaster Channel 13, the German foreign minister replied: "Are you saying that our doctors in the field in Gaza aren't telling the truth? Are you saying that the international media is lying?"

- end quote

“ ‘We’re Not Like the Nazis’ Netanyahu says to German Foreign Minister over Gaza famine disagreement”
The New Arab. April 20, 2024.

Posted by: jayc | Apr 22 2024 17:42 utc | 5

All Israel needs to do is scramble multiple F35's armed with nukes, and Iran has no reasonable likelihood of being able to shoot them all down.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 22 2024 17:21 utc | 3

An EMP strike on Iran will not significantly reduce its ability to flatten Israel by conventional means, which Iran will then be compelled to do. Nor will it interfere with Iran destroying US bases in the region, destroying oil and transportation infrastructure in the Gulf region, or closing the Gulf, thus crashing the western economies. There's little or no motivation for Iran NOT to do this if Israel attacks their civilian infrastructure with EMPs- or traditional nukes, for that matter- to 'take it back to the stone age.'

Iran is a large country and has considerable rebound capacity, and Israel's enemies have shown that they can tolerate suffering and loss. Israel has no rebound capacity within its own borders, and little tolerance for suffering and loss. Israel has already lost its 'existential struggle,' it's just a matter of how long it takes to go away, and how much destruction and death is caused in the meantime.

Despite the yapping from US politicians, Israel's survival is NOT an existential issue for the US, and while a lot of the political structure is beholden to or compromised by the Jewish lobby, Jewish money, and Mossad, even the Christian Zionists have no love for Israel or Jews. They are merely instrumentalities for either profit or immanentizing the eschaton, mostly the former. Could the tiny clique of psychos who actually want to end the world get their wish? It's not impossible, but the profit-driven elements that dominate US policy will try not to let them. There's no profit in Armageddon.

It is not outside the realm of possibility that the US has contingency plans for a pre-emptive strike on Israel's nuclear capability, in case of an attempt by Israel to escalate to the point where the Gulf would be closed, using nukes, EMPs or anything else. If the US did it, it would not lead to global nuclear war, it would tamp things down.

Posted by: Honzo | Apr 22 2024 17:46 utc | 6

I recall it was 12 then revised to 7 then 4 employees claimed to be hamas terrorists, after the resignation of Daniel Hagara the new batch of propagandists came out strong alleging 144. Liking or sharing a oct7 post was enough to make the list. Then there was the torture confessions from thousands rounded up off the streets of Gaza.
Th main thrust was removing the right of return which is enshrined in UN resolutions. Nega Arbel is quoted in her Knesset speech, " it will be impossible to win the war unless we destroy UNRWA"

https://youtu.be/h0bMANfC0BQ?si=ytvwvTJL29v9agH5

Posted by: Hankster | Apr 22 2024 17:49 utc | 7

https://youtu.be/NT4F-gcgbd4?si=PSRLa6DGDZpyPGvL
Owen Jones is a UK guy he pulls no punches and held his own in debates with Zionists on various media , well worth adding to the list of information if you aren't already overloaded by all this horrors

Posted by: Hankster | Apr 22 2024 17:58 utc | 8

jayc | 5

While I don’t care for the German government and its ministers, Baerbock did show integrity and courage when she brought up the Gaza famine.

Netanyahu’s response is EXACTLY that of a Nazi…! Incidentally, while most people don’t know or avoid the subject, the Babylonian Talmud provided the Nazis with their racial superiority philosophy… The Talmud states, clearly and repeatedly and provide examples of proper “Talmudic” responses towards gentiles, that the Chosen are not only superior but must behave accordingly when they are in charge of human animals, a.k.a. the rest of humanity.

The treatment given to people of Gaza is reminiscent of the treatment Russian Christians got following the Bolchevik revolution… and 80% of Bolchevik leaders were Pharisees…. COINCIDENCE…? I think not.

Posted by: Liberator | Apr 22 2024 18:08 utc | 9

israel lies.. who whudda thunk it?

Posted by: james | Apr 22 2024 18:25 utc | 10

With all this talk of Israel taking potshots at Iran, and "the Good guys (tm)" preventing Iran from building a nuclear bomb, that a) beating up Iran every time they de-escalate might be counterproductive and that b) there are other ways to acquire nuclear bombs than building them yourselves? (Hint: if the US and Europe really believed that al Qaeda could get one, why not Iran? If we convince the world it is perfectly fine to bomb the shit out of Russia via proxy Ukraine - what makes us think there might not be a point when Russia thinks sending one or two of its 7000+ nukes over to Iran to deter Israel from starting WW3 might be acceptable?)

Posted by: Marvin | Apr 22 2024 18:30 utc | 11

@ Marvin | Apr 22 2024 18:30 utc | 11

yes.. the problem with insanity is when you contribute it, you aren't solving it.. i would argue the wests support for israel at this point is insanity personified... no wonder some resort to humour... clearly there is a need for that..

Posted by: james | Apr 22 2024 19:03 utc | 12

"....The treatment given to people of Gaza is reminiscent of the treatment Russian Christians got following the Bolchevik revolution… and 80% of Bolchevik leaders were Pharisees…. COINCIDENCE…? I think not..."
Liberator 18:08 utc @9

This is untrue. Russian Christians survived in large numbers following the Revolution, hundreds of thousands of them fought in the Red Army. The same is true of muslims.
The Bolsheviks were atheists. Not 'Pharisees' but atheists.
After attacking Nazis, by comparing Netanyahu, accurately, with them, you then reproduce the crudest Nazi propaganda tropes.

Regarding UNRWA, the report stressed that all UNRWA employees in Palestine are vetted by the 'Israeli' government.

Finally, check out this Skwawkbox piece for the campaign, led by former Home Secretary and ultra Zionist Suella Braverman, to get rid of the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police and replace him with someone ready to ban pro Palestine marches.
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/04/22/evidence-eyewitnesses-challenge-falters-claims-he-was-stopped-for-just-crossing-road/

Posted by: bevin | Apr 22 2024 19:17 utc | 13

Iran dosent need nucular weapons to think it dose is to show a lack of awareness. To show a mistaken sence of enfaliblity. And shows real vonrabilty.
Ten minutes after Iran got hit by a nucular weapon america and you (if american) would cease to exsiste. You wont get a warning.
For get it.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 22 2024 19:21 utc | 14

Thanks for that Bevin, you jus redeemend your reputation.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 22 2024 19:24 utc | 15

Posted by: bevin | Apr 22 2024 19:17 utc | 13

#####

Are Zionists atheists?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 22 2024 19:39 utc | 16

I’m troubled by this campaign of disinformation …

Searching origin and how this news item is spreading in Western media on a selective manner.

Israeli Radar-Evading Sparrow Missiles (Rafael) Target Iran’s S-300 Air Defense Systems Guarding Nuclear Plant in Natanz

Western media AI generated news and video of satellite imagery Isfahan airstrike.

Interesting … I question the veracity as the spread of this information is quite selective … western media also via Persian language websites, no other sources. Checked Russian and got a primary hit Ukrainian source of “Pravda”

FREEДOM @FREEDOM_TV ‧ 1,15 mln. subscribers
https://www.youtube.com/@FREEDOM_TV

The international Ukrainian TV channel FREEDOM is for those who speak Russian and are looking for the truth about what is happening in Ukraine, Eastern Europe, Russia and the world.

The original story from Ronen Bergman carried by the New York Times. Propagated through Pahlavi mouthpiece Iran Int’l … effort to sow discord to the end of further escalation. Many question marks by this story … surprised copied by Southfront.

Russia tightening alliance of resistance to counteract the U.S. empire …

Russia to deliver Su-35 fighter jets to Iran in three months

The fighter jets are part of a major Iranian purchase, which also includes air defence systems, missile systems and helicopters as Tehran and Moscow deepen military cooperation.

I would put out a propaganda Alert! 🚨

Posted by: Oui | Apr 22 2024 19:55 utc | 17

Retaining_H20 @4

The fact is there are many more people marching for Palestine than against and that's why there's a paucity of anti-Palestine protests. There is a new phenomena appearing that gives us hope though, and brings back memories to old-timers like me: https://folkpotpourri.com/wisdom-of-the-children/

Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Apr 22 2024 20:08 utc | 18

Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, was an atheist. So was David Ben-Gurion, the founder of the Israeli state.

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 22 2024 20:09 utc | 19

…. Fun fact:

The film was invited to screen in the Jerusalem Knesset, the first film produced by Christian filmmakers to achieve this honor.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 22 2024 12:54 utc | 134….

A lot to unpack in that sentence. Truely remarkable that the Likud is so openly hate mongering racist

Posted by: Exile | Apr 22 2024 20:10 utc | 20

"This is untrue. Russian Christians survived in large numbers following the Revolution, hundreds of thousands of them fought in the Red Army. The same is true of Muslims.

bevin 13

Wrongo.

What planet are you are you from?

20 million Christians were killed in the Bolshevik Revolution.

"According to a study by Russian mathematician Nikolay Yemelyanov, Professor at St. Tichon’s Orthodox University, during the seven years of Leninist rule – from Russian Revolution in 1917 to Lenin’s death in 1924 –, almost 25,000 Orthodox priests were imprisoned and 16,000 were killed, for their Christian faith.

The same happened to Catholic priests. The secular English writer Martin Louis Amis has collected some significant sentences by dictator Vladimir Lenin: «any religious idea, any idea of God is an indescribable abjection of the most dangerous kind, a plague of the most abominable. There are a million sins, disgusting facts, acts of violence, and physical contagions which are much less dangerous than the subtle and spiritual idea of God» (quoted in M. Amis, Koba il terribile, Einaudi 2003).

After the Russian Revolution, Bolsheviks seized the power in the Sovietic Union (23-27 February 1917; Lenin took the power on October of the same year). The extermination of believers also continued after Lenin’s death: Todd M. Johnson, Professor of Global Christianity and Director of the Center for the Study of Global Christianity at the Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, explained that the number of the Christian victims of atheist and Marxist regimes were 20 millions (15 millions from 1921 to 1950; 5 millions from 1950 to 1980). These numbers are confirmed by other studies, too. To them we should add the numbers of those who were tortured and imprisoned only for professing their faith in God and therefore being automatically considered enemies of the State."(1)

1. https://www.uccronline.it/eng/2018/04/09/communism-killed-20-million-christians-a-real-atheist-inquisition/

Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2024 20:11 utc | 21

"Thanks for that Bevin, you just redeemed your reputation."

Posted by: Mark2

Interesting...because Bevin just completely discredited himself with his obvious lie about who ran Russia and his claim that hundreds of thousands of Christians who fought in the USSR's armed forces were there voluntarily.

I'd like him to review some of the HUNDREDS of Telegram vids of Ukrainian men being kidnapped off the streets to replenish the hundreds of thousands who have been callously killed in order for the self-chozen political class to handsomely profit.

Bevin takes us for fools.

Posted by: arthurdecco | Apr 22 2024 20:11 utc | 22

"Interesting...because Bevin just completely discredited himself with his obvious lie about who ran Russia and his claim that hundreds of thousands of Christians who fought in the USSR's armed forces were there voluntarily."

Bevin takes us for fools."

Posted by: arthurdecco | Apr 22 2024 20:11 utc | 22

Yes, bevy tries to emulate Edward Bernays and Joseph Goebbels yet falls quite short of the target with his, almost humorous, discredited historic revisionism.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2024 20:38 utc | 23

Aurthurdecco @ 22
Ooh noo you see this is why i hate the internet,
Thanks for your opinion on the long lasting enigma that is Bevin.
Hes been a puzzle to me for years and years sometimes exrtremely good and then 'wham' he chucks in a total blinding crazy opinion.
You may have given me the salution. Well done.

I think bevin may be.... )))))) S W P ((((((
thats not good, infact its very very bad.
Or worse than that even.

Bevin ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 22 2024 20:43 utc | 24

Unreported by the AJE live...
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-iraq-qatar-and-uae-sign-transportation-deal-would-connect-gulf-europe

Posted by: Minaa | Apr 22 2024 20:51 utc | 25

Baerbock just comes now denouncing the Gaza famine, and genocide, in the verge of European elections....until now they all obviated what was heppening there and showed full support for the genocidal regime in charge in Israel....

There is no excuses...The head of the European Comission, an unelected German from the CDU, has shown no restraint in unconditionally supporting Israeli genocidal regime all the way since October....

Hemeroteques still work.....

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Apr 22 2024 20:57 utc | 26

Liberator 9 - yes, Orthodox and Catholic faithful were targeted by the Bolsheviks, and Mensheviks...........priests and nuns were specifically targeted for summary execution.

Churches were occupied and desecrated, royal family members including members of the clergy were tortured and murdered.

Churches up until and after the time of Stalin were often dynamited.

VV Putin has lead the drive to restore the status of the Russian Orthodox Church, rebuilding the Grand Cathedral in Moscow, and over 250 churches in Russia as a whole.

VV Putin also has heavily contributed to the reconstruction of the Cathedral of St. Sava in Belgrade, which the communists used as a truck park!!

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 22 2024 21:04 utc | 27

@ Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2024 20:11 utc | 21

20 million Christians were killed in the Bolshevik Revolution.

Not true, but I wish it was. You have to crack a few eggs, as they say, to make an omelette.

Posted by: fnord | Apr 22 2024 21:07 utc | 28

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 22 2024 20:09 utc | 19

Right. But no contradiction here.

Zionism is marginally based on religion; it is foundationally based an an ideology of blood+soil, same as Fascism, and arose in the same time period, mid nineteenth century.

If you have Jewish blood, you are a Jew, independently of your religious beliefs. It is true that the Israeli govt is now run by fundamentalists and that Netenyahu is forced to talk about Amalek, but it's also true that something like 75% of Israelis support the genocide/ethnic cleansing, believers or not.

Posted by: JAB | Apr 22 2024 21:19 utc | 29

"The Bolsheviks were atheists. Not 'Pharisees' but atheists." @13

________________________________________________________

Not so, Bevin. And the Pharisees are notoriously antichristian:

“The Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party, which wielded the supreme power, contained 3 Russians (including Lenin) and 9 Jews. The next body in importance, the Central Committee of the Executive Commission (or secret police) comprised 42 Jews and 19 Russians, Letts, Georgians and others. The Council of People’s Commissars consisted of 17 Jews and five others. The Moscow Che-ka (secret police) was formed of 23 Jews and 13 others. Among the names of 556 high officials of the Bolshevik state officially published in 1918-1919 were 458 Jews and 108 others. Among the central committees of small, supposedly ‘Socialist’ or other non-Communist parties… were 55 Jews and 6 others.”

Richard Pipes admits: “Jews undeniably played in the Bolshevik Party and the early Soviet apparatus a role disproportionate to their share of the population.

https://www.orthodoxchristianbooks.com/articles/371/bolshevism-jews/

Posted by: hispanidad | Apr 22 2024 21:44 utc | 30

a pretty big day just for this, as noted by Elijah Magnier

https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1782499994857091283

With #US permission and coordination of the use of Iraqi territory, #Israel bombed the Iraqi Hashd al-Shaabi, a regular Iraqi security force. This is a violation of #Iraq's sovereignty and the agreement not to attack US bases in Iraq.
The Iraqi resistance will resume attacks on US bases and if PM Sudani complains, he can resign and go and .... himself if he is unable to defend the Iraqi forces he leads as commander of all Iraqi forces. The deal is off for the resistance.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 22 2024 22:02 utc | 31

Bevin, you are so precious for this blog, you help us to "separate the chaff from the wheat".

Posted by: Northern Eve | Apr 22 2024 22:05 utc | 32

While we are on the subject of Communists being anti Christian, can we also remind ourselves that reactionary British Tory leader Thatcher revised the Christian concept of personal responsibility on the Day of Judgement for all our
actions to a different interpretation that we shouldn't rely on State hand outs.

If you adopt a posh Oxford accent as Thatcher did, it converts tripe into Gospel truth.
Gideon Falter agrees.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 22 2024 22:39 utc | 33

Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2024 20:11 utc | 21

Bona fide bullshit, Timothy Snyder Grade Bullshit.

But hey, nothing makes for crypto-nazis quite as good as canadians do.

Posted by: hispanidad | Apr 22 2024 21:44 utc | 30

Another bullshit believer of the "jews are a special racial breed" tale.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 22 2024 22:41 utc | 34

I would not be surprised if there are teams working on someone high profile like Pepe to feed him some minor but significant scoops and gain his trust in order to whack him with something like the F-35 story.

Mercouris seems to have a source or two that are feeding him some stuff and I would not be surprised if something similar is attempted.

Posted by: billb | Apr 22 2024 22:46 utc | 35

Hey guys this is the palstine thread.
Ther's work to do.
Has netinyahoo reached the end of his tether, or is this the lul before the storm.

Bevin gave us a good link to the swkakbox.
Lets not be to hard on folk.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 22 2024 22:52 utc | 36

Richard Pipes admits: “Jews undeniably played in the Bolshevik Party and the early Soviet apparatus a role disproportionate to their share of the population.
Posted by: hispanidad | Apr 22 2024 21:44 utc | 30

What a nonsense. When you are a communist, you are no more Jew, Muslim or Christian.
For instance, among early Iranian Communists, many had an Iranian-Christian (Armanian/Ashuri) background who didn't believe in Christianity.

This is untrue. Russian Christians survived in large numbers following the Revolution, hundreds of thousands of them fought in the Red Army. The same is true of muslims.
The Bolsheviks were atheists. Not 'Pharisees' but atheists.
Posted by: bevin | Apr 22 2024 19:17 utc | 13

Thumbs up!

Posted by: Framarz | Apr 22 2024 23:07 utc | 37

The palestainians are still getting their azzes kicked.

Heheheh

Posted by: Ghost Of Zannon | Apr 22 2024 23:14 utc | 38

Sorry that it's OT but I forgot to point in my last comment.

Many doesn't know that Iranian Parliament right after the 1979 Revolution had a Communist member. He was the representative of Ashuri minority (Iranian-Christians).

Posted by: Framarz | Apr 22 2024 23:17 utc | 39

Posted by: bevin | Apr 22 2024 19:17 utc | 13

I am pleased you refuted the Christian Bolshevik conflict. Stalin as an ex seminarian supposedly had little problem with Christians. It is possibly just another western myth.

Posted by: Inki | Apr 22 2024 23:22 utc | 40

Massive walkout of faculty at Columbia University in solidarity of the students protesting gencide

https://twitter.com/i/status/1782479795999129962

Posted by: ld | Apr 22 2024 23:32 utc | 41

Posted by: ld | Apr 22 2024 23:32 utc | 41

Thanks. I must say I'm pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: JAB | Apr 23 2024 0:14 utc | 42

Posted by: ld | Apr 22 2024 23:32 utc | 41

Thanks. I must say I'm pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: JAB | Apr 23 2024 0:14 utc | 42

I've seen that sort of thing before, but it has been quite a while.

About 1968, it was.

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 23 2024 0:23 utc | 43

I would not be surprised if there are teams working on someone high profile like Pepe to feed him some minor but significant scoops and gain his trust in order to whack him with something like the F-35 story.
@ billb | Apr 22 2024 22:46 utc | 35ks

Thanks for your thoughts, not far from mine. But you know what? If Pepe only had less than the usual allotment of self-righteousness, he could summon the strength to openly confess to getting snookered, and we could all move on from there. Instead, I expect him to double down on his "billion per cent" [sic] trusted sources, continuing to display enthusiastic cooperation with the campaign to discredit him.

Seymour Hersh has been similarly compromised, but he's certainly too stuck in his ways to ever consider retracting anything.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 23 2024 0:53 utc | 44

RE Will Zionism self-destruct? - Alastair Crooke / SCF .... the truly transformative solution would be for an Israeli leader to think the ‘unthinkable’ – to think of one state between the River and the Sea. says Crooke.

I still find Crooke of little value. He talks in circles while creating a mishmash of nothingness. He's self-centered - he writes for himself not readers.

NO, of course Zionism will not self-destruct - what a DUMB IGNORANT thing to say.

Zionism in Israel needs to be physically BLOWN UP with imposing overwhelming military force in Occupied Palestine and taking over the joint... followed with War crimes & Genocidal Trials of the Guilty.

A transformative solution would be for ALL JEWISH / ZIONIST Israelis who arrived post 1920 to pack their bags never to return again.

Except for a week holiday now and then to pray at the wailing wall on a Tourists passport.

And a truly transformative solution would be eradicating the nation states of BOTH Israel and Jordan and combining them into a new Secular (?) Arab State with a right of return for all Palestinians from the Nakba and their descendants.... to be called The State of Palestine.

The Hashemite royalty elites (also created in 1921 out of nothing) can go to hell with the Zionist Israelis. imo.

Bringing this about voluntarily or having the place bombed back to Biblical times and invaded by a liberation force first I'm not fussed either way.

Of course the question is - is this truly transformative solution achievable?

It is about as achievable as a two state solution or Crookes stupid one state from the river to the sea without FIRST a total military defeat of the Zionist Israeli Fascists and the eradication from Israel as a nation state and all these (90% of the population today) violent rabid psychopaths deported by force to Europe, Russia, the US or what idiots will take them in!

Good to get this "fantasy" off my chest again. :-)

Alastair Crooke has no vision of his own imho and no clue about much at all ..... bar writing merry-go-round missives of no import for a weekly fee and a share of the Judges ad revenue. But whatever, no big deal, he's not important enough to bother with. Just my opinion, ymmv.

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 0:56 utc | 45

EMP Blast Announcement from 12th April:
@ Rudi Ruessel | Apr 22 2024 17:14 utc | 2

The context of this EMP saber-rattling makes it seem even more likely that Pepe Escobar's scoop is part of the same psyop.

Here's the thing: If what Escobar passes on as beyond doubt is so full of holes it can't possibly be true, then it's intentional disinformation, no doubt about it. I think Pepe simply needs to fess up to getting had, at this point. Everybody makes mistakes, sometimes.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 23 2024 1:00 utc | 46

https://skwawkbox.org/2024/04/22/evidence-eyewitnesses-challenge-falters-claims-he-was-stopped-for-just-crossing-road/

Posted by: bevin | Apr 22 2024 19:17 utc | 13

Longer 13 min clip of Falter interaction with police

Sky News footage reveals new details of exchange between police and antisemitism campaigner called 'openly Jewish'

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-footage-reveals-new-details-of-exchange-between-police-and-antisemitism-campaigner-called-openly-jewish-13120104

@7:28 ... you decided to walk into the road ... >indistinct< ... and deliberately walk against the flow of traffic ...

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Apr 23 2024 1:02 utc | 47

@2 Rudi
That description is also BS

It's hard enough understanding events where you at least know that something blew up - ie Nord Stream. Discussing the thus-far invisible is a bit pointless.

Posted by: pxx | Apr 23 2024 1:07 utc | 48

Yea, one word from Joe Biden and the IDF does exactly anything they desire......

Today they, the IDF AF, dropped a one ton blockbuster GBU American made bomb on one of the only remaining intact buildings in Gaza City, apparently not satisfied destroying 90% of the structures in Gaza City including all the hospitals and the two Catholic church complexes.

The IDF bloodlust and war crimes continue unabated.

Even so the resistance continues with attacks on IDF forces daily. The IRA fought the Brits from 1916 until 1998 and never surrendered to Brit forces nor were defeated........that is a lesson never learned by the IDF........

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 23 2024 1:14 utc | 49

Experts say that an Israeli EMP strike on Iran will “bring it back to the Stone Age”... but no deaths?
Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Apr 22 2024 17:14 utc | 2

Which is why Israel has never used it before, because well, that would be a very bad thing to happen to Iran and the rabid fascist Zionists would not want to do anything like that.

OF COURSE ITS PSYOPS ... IT'S THE ISRAELI MEDIA FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

And Pepe has been had .... Jeez, think people.

Is this the MoA, or the Guardian / NYTs comments section? :-)

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 1:17 utc | 50

@ b

Thanks for that link to the Crooke piece. He brings out the historic, belief systems, and cultural foundations of both "escatologicals" -

- And many influential Israelis, and Americans, wish to demolish the Al Aqsa mosque, seeking their Armageddon, whence they are likely to get it.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 23 2024 1:18 utc | 51

ZH has a posting up with the title

While Congress Abandons Border, $3.5 Billion Slipped Into Israel Bill For 'Migrants And Refugees'

the quotes

While Congress failed to pass a border security bill over the weekend amid a flurry of billions in international aid to Ukraine and Israel, they did set aside $3.5 billion for "Migration and Refugee Assistance" for the State Department to "address humanitarian needs of vulnerable populations and communities."

.....
So, while there's a nebulous set of words governing the $3.5 billion, and which has the appearance of 'checks and balances,' Congress has provided a virtual slush fund for yet another category of people who aren't Americans, and has failed to pass legislation that would protect the country from the economic & national security risks posed by unchecked illegal migration.

Is the money for moving Palestinians or back door aid for US immigrants?

We probably will never know how used.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 23 2024 1:39 utc | 52

Why does Israel need a EMP Psyop when every government in the region knows their nuclear strike capabilities?

That consists of 6 dolphin class subs, with more on the way, outfitted with cruise missles that everyone in the region knows that it is a nuclear strike arm.
Israel Submarine Capabilities

It also consists of numerous F-35 Aidar versions with more on the way. This version of the F-35 stealth figher is only held by Israelis and is said to be outfitted with extra internal fuel capacity to make the round trip in and out of Iran. It is widley know that they continue to build up this nuclear capable strike force as a deterrent to every government in the region and every government knows its capabilities. They know these fighter are an addition to their nuclear strike arm.

F-35I Adir: Israel Has a Special Stealth Fighter Even America Doesn't Fly

It is absurd to think they needed to plant this story in the minds of a bunch of armchair wizards like us. Obviously they have the capability of get it done with more on the way. It explains to me why every nation in the region is walking on eggshells around Israel including Iran. It explains why they have to act by using NGO proxies to attack Israel.

If it is a psysop it is not directed at the governments in the region.

Posted by: circumspect | Apr 23 2024 2:00 utc | 53

The money for refugees and migration is (likely) for Israeli IDPs as well as perhaps to suppprt Jews to immigrate to Israel

Posted by: Exile | Apr 23 2024 2:18 utc | 54

Breaking News? (not sure of confirmations)

23 Apr 2024 #Israel #Nasserhospital

TRT World Now (Turkey)

Mads Gilbert: Discovery of mass grave at Gaza hospital point to Israeli war crimes

In Khan Younis, the Palestinian Civil Defence recovered nearly 300 bodies from a mass grave at the Nasser Medical Complex AND it says there are more under the rubble, with search efforts continuing. Mads Gilbert, Norwegian physician and a professor of emergency medicine at the University of Tromso has more.
including children with their hands tied behind their backs and beheaded (?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgKerc9v0rk

190 bodies found in mass grave at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis
22 Apr 2024
In Khan Younis, the Palestinian Civil Defence has uncovered 190 bodies from a mass grave at the Nasser Medical Complex. It says there are still more bodies under the rubble and search efforts are continuing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QebFyZ8S_LM

Israel launches surprise raid in Khan Younis as more bodies recovered
https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/israel-launches-surprise-raid-in-khan-younis-as-more-bodies-recovered-17876068

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 2:18 utc | 55

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 23 2024 1:39 utc | 52

Migrants and refugees? Fascinating. Because there's a rush to Israel? Or the Palestinians have found refuge in Israel? Or somewhere Jews are being oppressed, and they need to run away....to Israel?

The mind boggles.

Posted by: JAB | Apr 23 2024 2:20 utc | 56

the Crooke piece. He brings out the historic, belief systems, and cultural foundations of both "escatologicals" -
Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 23 2024 1:18 utc | 51

Not really, not in my opinion and histlorical knowledge he doesn't.

Crooke papers over things. He presents minutia and posits import where none exists. He presents info as if it is RARE knowledge and he's all wise when all it is is well known long trodden realities of Israel-Palestine conflict.

Then prtends to tie it all toghtehr into soe thing profound and timely when actauly he just said nothing at all of any importance or relevance to today.

Throwing in academic words like "eschatological" that no one would use in normal life to make his article seem all the more "important", "impressive", and "insightful" --

eschatology, the doctrine of the last things. It was originally a Western term, referring to Jewish, Christian, and Muslim beliefs about the end of history, the resurrection of the dead, the Last Judgment, the messianic era, and the problem of theodicy (the vindication of God’s justice).

It's a Nothing-Burger ... a cheap distraction from the real story of death and destruction and fascist terror and collective insanity.

Can anyone name one thing they learned from Crooke that matters or educates one in the facts on the ground? (I suspect not)

But if reading this kind of stuff is enjoyable, then go for it. I'm simply giving folks a heads up that there is really nothing important or of value actually there (bar on the margins).

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 2:33 utc | 57

Chock full of THEISTS... MOA is not what it used to be: runs on prejudice and eschatology. Not only am I supposed to suffer morons in Israel that believe in a monstrosity. I am to suffer them here also.

Would yOu too burn witches, oh the holy ones??? From your "holy" to someone else's "Amalek" is an effing step!

Posted by: Marija | Apr 23 2024 2:38 utc | 58

Should I dumb it down further?

They are not fighting over the end times, they are fighting over the colonial theft of peoples' homes and properties farms and businesses and their sovereign land and the last 100 years of mass slaughter and terrorism of lying thieving zionists settlers against the indigenous Palestinians.

Eschatology has absolutely nothing, to next to nothing, to do with the fighting today. Nothing. Britain's frigging Balfour declaration of 1920 and the UN bs surrounding 1948/49 and white western colonialism and murderous fanatics empowered by the USA and UK and Europe does.

iow Crooke is speaking with a Crooked Tongue ... aka Talkin' Bullshit. :-)

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 2:41 utc | 59

There will be justice against those who kill the innocent blood of children and widows and the stranger.

Repent and pray and read the Gospels. May God help the Palestinians and all of us, In Jesus compassionate Name. Amen

1 O LORD God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself.

2 Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth: render a reward to the proud.

3 LORD, how long shall the wicked, how long shall the wicked triumph?

4 How long shall they utter and speak hard things? and all the workers of iniquity boast themselves?

5 They break in pieces thy people, O LORD, and afflict thine heritage.

6 They slay the widow and the stranger, and murder the fatherless.

7 Yet they say, The LORD shall not see, neither shall the God of Jacob regard it.

8 Understand, ye brutish among the people: and ye fools, when will ye be wise?

9 He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? he that formed the eye, shall he not see?

10 He that chastiseth the heathen, shall not he correct? he that teacheth man knowledge, shall not he know?

11 The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they are vanity.

12 Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD, and teachest him out of thy law;

13 That thou mayest give him rest from the days of adversity, until the pit be digged for the wicked.

14 For the LORD will not cast off his people, neither will he forsake his inheritance.

15 But judgment shall return unto righteousness: and all the upright in heart shall follow it.

16 Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?

17 Unless the LORD had been my help, my soul had almost dwelt in silence.

18 When I said, My foot slippeth; thy mercy, O LORD, held me up.

19 In the multitude of my thoughts within me thy comforts delight my soul.

20 Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?

21 They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous, and condemn the innocent blood.

22 But the LORD is my defence; and my God is the rock of my refuge.

23 And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity, and shall cut them off in their own wickedness; yea, the LORD our God shall cut them off.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-Chapter-94/

Posted by: LydiaGorbik | Apr 23 2024 2:44 utc | 60

Posted by: LydiaGorbik | Apr 23 2024 2:44 utc | 60

Is your God still commanding genocide against the Amalekites?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 23 2024 2:48 utc | 61

fyi

check out and listen to/read this interview with former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia Chas Freeman

He's interviewed by @PLottaz, an Associate Professor at Kyoto University in Japan
(this is the full video of the interview find on Youtube: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jLai2YG4NRc

https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1782237759106887735

This is undoubtedly the best analysis I've heard to date of the Iran strike on Israel. It's long-ish (about 10 minutes) but absolutely worth listening to.

The man speaking is Chas Freeman, former Assistant Secretary of Defense and, very relevant to the topic, former US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia.

He's interviewed by @PLottaz, an Associate Professor at Kyoto University in Japan (this is the full video of the interview: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jLai2YG4NRc).

What Freeman argues is that Iran's strike "changes all the rules of the game in the Middle-East". The biggest deal for him is that "the Saudis, the Emiratis and others informed the United States that they would not permit American operations against Iran from their territory and Iran warned those states that if they did, they would become targets. So in a sense, Iran has achieved the neutralization of American forces in the Persian gulf that it long sought. So from a tactical military point of view it was a 'nothing burger' - nobody was killed, nobody was damaged - [...] but from a strategic point of view, from a soft power point of view, it was a huge success. Iran accomplished its objective and it left Israel with an intolerable dilemma. Israel cannot continue to behave as though it can act with impunity."

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 23 2024 3:07 utc | 62

Theism, eschatology and similar have a lot to do with what is occuring in Palestine today.

Throughout history "sets" of people have identified with and been led, have supplied the means to, those who represent one certain belief or another.

An easier more mundane example is "nationality" and its construct of duty and legiance.

They just do not have to do with current events in the way often depicted. That is to say, military planing is not based on building a new temple, that without ignoring that those in comand do actually have a religious bias to their thinking.

However, look at support in say the US towards "Israel" . Notice the theological lines that exist ? They are obvious. Without the various belief systems in place questioning would normaly be higher, and support would likely be lower.

Those who support "Israel" in the US have tended towards the line Islam = Terrorists= Palestinian, "Israel"= Biblical homeland = Right.

Ask Pompeo, a politician won't expose such strong views unless he knows there is an audience ready to support them or directions related.

Walther von der Vogelweide - Palästinalied

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zXoXcAToCBE

"Kristen, juden und die heiden
jehent, daz diz ir erbe sî.
got müez ez ze rehte scheiden
durch die sîne namen drî.
al diu welt, diu strîtet her:
wir sîn an der rehten ger.
reht ist, daz er uns gewer."

Pre-history might possibly have been more peaceful.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 23 2024 4:01 utc | 63

Thanks for that Bevin, you jus redeemend your reputation.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 22 2024 19:24 utc | 15

Bevin's reputation has never needed that.
Some need to adjust their perception however.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 23 2024 4:08 utc | 64

Would it be in bad taste to sell Team T-Shirts?: Holy Cow versus Don't Have a Cow. Inflatable red heifer balloons? Vuvuzelas plastic horns that wail like a heifer on fire? Capitalist exploitation needs to figure out how to market to Bronze Age Rites. ;)

Is cotton candy allowed? Can we make it sacred ash flavored? ;)

Posted by: titmouse | Apr 23 2024 4:11 utc | 65

Here is the main headline
at Times of Israel

Dozens arrested as New York police move to clear anti-Israel ‘liberated zone’ at NYU

Biden slams ‘antisemitic protests, those who don’t understand what’s going on with the Palestinians’ * US: Hamas has ‘moved the goal post’ in hostage talks * Overnight sirens in Metula

Posted by: librul | Apr 23 2024 4:27 utc | 66

I've read some tendentious bullshit in my time but the link hispanidad | Apr 22 2024 21:44 utc | 30 put up to some fascist xtian conspiracy site absolutely takes the cake. It quotes an amerikan who claims that the majority of people in government back in Stalin's days were amerikan jews who had gone to the Soviet Union after the revolution!
It appears to ignore the xenophobia rampant after the 1922 civil war comprised of Soviet Soldiers the first Red Army, versus 'white' Russians which were a bunch of former russian aristocrats and troops from england france & amerika. After Leon Trotsky wiped those worthless idiots off the face of the planet, the Soviet Union became extremely cautious of all foreigners, to claim that a bunch of foreigners dominated Soviet government is a lie, plain and simple.
The same goes for the statements about jews in the Politburo. I know because many years ago when idjits were spouting this total tossage, I sat down with a list of all the names of senior figures in the Soviet Union researched them all and discovered that in fact the numbers of jews in senior positions was about the same as their representation in the USSR's population. the xtian fascists must have discovered the same as at one point they conceed

"According to Donald Rayfield, in 1922, the Jews “reached their maximum representation in the party (not that they formed a coherent group) when, at 15 per cent, they were second only to ethnic Russians with 65 per cent.”"

There is considerable confusion about what was a soviet and how people became representatives. Basically Soviets were made of of workplace delegates from all the offices, shops, military and factories in the USSR (ie workplaces). Delegates were elected by workers at each workplace and then they joined together with other delegates from other workplaces and formed a Soviet. This is known as industrial democracy and was practised in many countries in the West but we didn't call them Soviets we called them Trades & Labour Councils or something similar.

There is no mystery about any of this, if there was slightly more jews in the Soviets than in the population that was because they had been determined to be the best person for the shop by fellow workers. If there had been some sort of deliberate attempt to judicise the Soviets workers would have caught om fast and ceased voting for jews. The fact that didn't happen shows there was no conspiracy other than by paranoid fascist xtians nearly 100 years after the fact.

ps One plus of this thread has been that it has increased my 'BLOCKED' list at MoA. Anyone who took part in the crazy unfounded and ignorant attacks on Bevin, a bloke who I've been known to disagree with, has now been put on my blocked list because they have revealed themselves to be both stupid and partial, by making intolerant personal attacks on another barfly - who wants to read anything such types post?

Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 23 2024 4:32 utc | 67

Posted by: titmouse | Apr 23 2024 4:11 utc | 65

More importantly, should the next GTA version be titled:

"Grand Theft Auto - Jerusalem Edition"

Featuring Palestinian drivers running down IDF members in the streets.

Some might think it in poor taste ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 23 2024 4:37 utc | 68

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 23 2024 2:48 utc | 61

I will answer for Lydia, Arch. Obviously not. She is quoting a Psalm of David, ancestor of Christ - David was a flawed man and not a prophet, like most of us. What is it in these verses that offends you? The call for wisdom? Judgment? Righteousness? Mercy? The God David reminds us of is not that of these genocidal men. He never was. Here is what a soon to come Easter verse will say about David:

David, the ancestor of Christ God
Danced for joy before the Ark
Which was but a symbol
As for us, the holy people of God
When we see that these symbols
Of the old law have passed away,
Let us rejoice with divine rejoicing;
For Christ Almighty is risen.

Do you dance for joy ever, Arch? I really hope you do. Palestinians took refuge in a church in Gaza, the third oldest one in all the world. It was bombed. Those dear children are with God, the God of Palestinians as well as Christians as well as Israelis. Not the god of these men; do you really need to ask such a question?

Thank you, Lydia; your point is made.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 23 2024 4:41 utc | 69

Sorry for the late notice: "Crooke Remains in Moscow: Focuses on Zionism & Escobar's Nuke Report", https://karlof1.substack.com/p/crooke-remains-in-moscow-focuses

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 23 2024 5:00 utc | 70

Passover is a major Jewish holiday that commemorates the liberation and exodus of the Israelites from Egypt. This year, Passover begins at sundown on April 22 and ends on April 30.

I suggest all the Jews of the Apartheid Zionist Colonial Criminal State should celebrate Passover this year with a new EXODUS FROM OCCUPIED PALESTINE ... NEVER TO RETURN!

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 5:01 utc | 71

@ Debsisdead | Apr 23 2024 4:32 utc | 67

exactly right.. well said debs.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Apr 23 2024 5:07 utc | 72

Thanks juliania and Lydia. :) I get where you are coming from. Truly I do, for these are iniquitous times of great disgrace. :(

Yet I also commiserate with Arch Bungle and others. Absurd times deserve absurd responses. :) It's a gallows humor defense against the unfathomable, such as extreme times like war and atrocity. You laugh lest you cry and go mad.

;) I was just hoping someone would tease me that hawking carnival faire trinkets & snacks at the temple rededication ritual would force Jesus to come back down and whip our ass. ;D But GTA craziness would be fine, too, as long as the massive purple dildo as melee weapon DLC is unlocked. =) Everything's all forgiven if I get a little blessed ash-water on it.

I think I'm gonna miss when this moo cow Bronze Age sacrifice craziness is behind us. =.>
/single tear
/cheep cheep

Posted by: titmouse | Apr 23 2024 5:11 utc | 73

Theological is not Eschatological

Those who support "Israel" in the US have tended towards the line Islam = Terrorists= Palestinian, "Israel"= Biblical homeland = Right.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 23 2024 4:01 utc | 63

None of what you wrote is about Eschatology, whether you believe me or not, Ornot. But feel free anyway .... no big deal. :-)

Re-post of the definition for others interested:
eschatology, the doctrine of the last things. It was originally a Western term, referring to Jewish, Christian, and Muslim beliefs about the end of history, the resurrection of the dead, the Last Judgment, the messianic era, and the problem of theodicy (the vindication of God’s justice).

I merely believe real things should be considered as real, and let's leave the myths and the mis-takes behind. :-)

Cheers LD

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 5:13 utc | 74

Posted by: juliania | Apr 23 2024 4:41 utc | 69

Get thee to a Nunnery Satan!

Please, shut up OR grow up!

Please take your God Bothering interference with you and mind your own business juliania!

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 5:17 utc | 75

Lavrov's Dog 45

The law of Qisas fee Qatl demands legal redress , like for like , for every assassination by Israel of Palestinians. It is compulsory to fight tyranny and religious error.

Without that legal redress, like the execution of worshippers of the Golden Calf, there will never be peace in Palestine. Those who protest against this genocide are going to have to ready themselves for the Islamic justice that Israel 's stupidity and arrogance has re-birthed.

Not UN justice, awarding Netanyahu the Nobel Peace prize for transforming the Middle East.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 23 2024 5:19 utc | 76

Posted by: LydiaGorbik | Apr 23 2024 2:44 utc | 60

Please take your insidious God Bothering Bullshit to Church and leave the rest of us alone Lydia!

I do try to be tolerant and allow others the space to be themselves here, but some things I simply cannot and will not tolerate without speaking up!

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 5:22 utc | 77

Likudization of minds will bring total collapse
https://aje.io/r5vgc7?update=2854086

Posted by: Minaa | Apr 23 2024 5:38 utc | 78

Pepe promised a "serious update". Thus far all we have is brainstorming. And eschatology has everything to do with how the evangelical Christians are with Israel 100%. If you do not believe that you just don't know them. Speaking of planting, I would not have believed it is the real "plant" until I saw the trailer of the film I am Israel, which was screened at Knesset. To the evangelicals Israel is THE sign of the end times and Knesset is playing them like a fiddle.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 23 2024 6:10 utc | 79

Today's Larry Johnson is an analysis of Iran's missile attack on Israel, by Ted Postol. In it Ted Postol argues convincingly that Irán puts optical seekers on cruise missiles, to get better accuracy. But then comes a zinger: Ted Postol states: "Since the optical and computational systems needed to perform these correlations in near-real-time on a homing missile are well within the capabilities of commercial cameras and computer chips (NVidia chips are well up to the job), it is my conclusion that the Iranians have already developed precision guided cruise missiles and drones."

Nvidia chips consume too much to be of any use on a drone or missile. Take a look at openmv.org, and you'll find there are systems that are cheap, small, with humble power requirements. And technologically within reach of all players.

Posted by: Passerby | Apr 23 2024 6:54 utc | 80

200 days of murdered children in Gaza and some want to pretend like the problem is students protesting in America. This by Scott sounds about right to me ....

Scott Ritter
@RealScottRitter
7h
The U.S. currently has 24-hour satellite coverage of Gaza.

The resolution of the images produced is good enough to discern individual humans.

The U.S. has complete coverage of all communications by the IDF in Gaza.

We saw them murder the Palestinian prisoners.

We heard them give the orders.

Our silence makes us complicit.

After Auschwitz we said “never again.”

We used that horror to justify the creation of Israel.

And now Israel has turned into that which the world then condemned.

We must all condemn Israel today.

And we must send Zionism to the place we sent the Nazis.

Hell.

https://nitter.poast.org/RealScottRitter/with_replies

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 7:32 utc | 81

Some may be bemused by the subtile under current o t contained on this thread.

This blog is majorty western centric.
Distraction and derailment is being used as a tactic, a symptem of cognative disonance. Oo look a squrrel !

I get it.

Even for regulars highly critical of the wests actions other the years.

The facts comming to light these last days are tectonic.

The wests strangle hold on the middle east is over . The wests world wide oppression is over.
Along with the life style of the comftable academics with no skin in this game.
Events unfolding as i speak will turn the world we know upside down.

My advice is pay attention hour by hour.

Stop blathering about irrelivances.

The airian third reich is fucked. ha ha ha.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 23 2024 7:33 utc | 82

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 23 2024 6:10 utc | 79

Oh well, another who never notices how Crooke never mentions issues until someone else does first .. this time simplicius. the crazy christians have always been on about the end times, it has nothing to do with Israel and Palestine, not now not ever, it's just the latest popular meme and propaganda spin to distract and confuse the gullible .... same as the memes used to get the right wing psychos to back Netanyau for PM ... it's still a nothing burger.

It has nothing to do with tactics or strategy or Israel's goals or why it exists nor the last 100 years of history, and why the Palestinians hate their guts with a vengeance. It's 30 seconds to midnight and suddenly everything is about eschatology because Crooke and Simplicius and the whacko US christians and psychopath settlers say so, the media and the propaganda says so.

No it is not. It's about land theft and murder and fascist psychopaths!

Posted by: Ned Kelly | Apr 23 2024 7:48 utc | 83

Ned kelly @ 83
Well said exactly as you say.
To all. If your anti facist stand up and be proud.

If not shame on you.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 23 2024 8:01 utc | 84

Lol you are serious.

Hal Lindsey in 1970 and way before him Scofield, Darby, Moody and Spurgeon.

Simplicius and Crooke. Lol. Give me a break.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 23 2024 8:10 utc | 85

Btw I read somewhere they also wanted a homeland in Ukraine but Stalin did not want them too close to Moscow and gave them a nice little autonomous region close to Mongolia. Not happy.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 23 2024 8:16 utc | 86

Posted by: Lavrov's Dog | Apr 23 2024 2:41 utc | 59

Crooke does tend to overemphasize this, but he is partially correct in that Netanyahu's sidekicks and, perhaps, Netanyahu himself, do consider the eschatological angle, as well as the Christian Zionist nutcases.

But you are correct that this was originally a British imperial project, at least until the sun set on the empire. It is still, essentially a "Western" imperialist project led by the US and various corporate and financial entities in the "West".

The US, EU, UK, NATO support for the Zionists and the Neonazis in Ukraine, among others have the same ultimate objective - corporate and financial global conquest. All of the rest is just a means to that end irrespective of what some locals imagine.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Apr 23 2024 8:16 utc | 87

But you are correct that this was originally a British imperial project, at least until the sun set on the empire.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Apr 23 2024 8:16 utc | 87

And Gladstone, an evangelical.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 23 2024 8:18 utc | 88

So, does this mean that the NATO countries which pulled the plug on funding for UNRWA are going to start funding it again?

If not, why not?

Posted by: MFB | Apr 23 2024 8:27 utc | 89

How is netinyahoo's relationhip with the US at the momment ?

Whats the status of US air and army bases in the middle east ? Up to date.
Particuly Qatar, Sauadi, Jordan. Others to ?

Many more questions are there if we but look.

It's dynamic.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 23 2024 8:53 utc | 90

Pre-history might possibly have been more peaceful.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 23 2024 4:01 utc | 63
............................

Even an atheist can identify with a tribal sense of being superior, destined for great ends, being 'of the chosen'. Such ideas travel along emotional more than intellectual vectors.

The old communist movement waged a virulent, violent class war, and one of those classes were Christians because religion, with its faith in a higher power than the working man, is anathema and thus enemy and thus to be destroyed.

Feeling Chosen is eschatological. Eliminating enemies is as well in the sense that achieving the desired end justifies any means used to achieve it, so any resisting such means are enemies to be destroyed. To destroy the old class system with all its many problems, a new one arises promulgating mass murder to achieve its ends.

Certainty anathemizes uncertainty which demands openness and humility. The desire to control outcomes (like most Woke policies) is eschatological in all but doctrine. Satan promises certainty of outcome. Certainty of a preconceived outcome, which is a thought, an abstraction, a lie.

Empire of Lies indeed.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 23 2024 8:53 utc | 91

Passover Sacrifice’ – Jewish Settlers Try to Smuggle Goats into Al Aqsa Compound

…….Scores of Jewish settlers broke into the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in Jerusalem on Monday under heavy protection from the Israeli police, the official Palestinian news agency WAFA reported.

At the same time, heavily-armed soldiers increased security and tightened restrictions at the gates leading to the Old City ahead of extremist calls for animals to be sacrificed in the mosque for the Jewish Passover.

Around 172 settlers raided the mosque from the Mughariba Gate and performed Talmudic rituals there, according to WAFA……

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/passoversacrifice-extremist-jews-try-to-smuggle-goats-into-al-aqsa-compound/

Posted by: Exile | Apr 23 2024 9:04 utc | 92

Alistaire Crooke's language is sounding very prophetic lately as if he thinks he's writing an epic. He's always been wishing for the Great Raproachement, in which Ithe "truly transformative solution would be for an Israeli leader to think the ‘unthinkable’ – to think of one state between the River and the Sea.

And, for Israel – tasting the bitter herbs of ‘things fallen apart’ – to talk directly with Iran.

Surely this would be wonderful I'm sure all would agree, it goes without saying, but Crooke's not saying much about what's happening 'on the ground.'

Posted by: Lavieja | Apr 23 2024 9:16 utc | 93

Scorpion 92

' Even an atheist can identify with a tribal sense of being superior, destined for great ends, being 'of the chosen'. Such ideas travel along emotional more than intellectual vectors.'

Thanks, this is the core problem.in Israel , that non- practising, even non-Jews like the Likud Khazars, can easily be manipulated by an adulterated scripture, the Talmud.

What kind of faith tells you to genocide the people who own a land?

A manipulated religion. When I came into Islam I attended weekly lectures by a mufti. Talking about men committing adultery with non-Muslim women he told his audience that it wasn't wrong, but it was a matter between them.and God.

I wanted to protest but a mufti gets surrounded by loyal followers and I couldn't get to question him about this. His argument being that what benefits the Muslims cannot be condemned.

Wrong teaching , especially when it gives permission for the worst temptations, land , sex, money, is highly corrosive on society.
Not restricted by any means to Judaism.

An Irish lad was working in an all night, city centre car park where I was also working. A scantily dressed young female party goer tried for a long time to get his attention.
No response. But a Muslim lad touting for work in an unlicensed taxi, took her home ' for free'.

The mufti gets the punishment for preaching wrong religion.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 23 2024 9:17 utc | 94

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 23 2024 8:53 utc | 91

Christians are not a class under any definition, you fucking bullshit peddler.

They're not a class following a communist definition, they're not a class following a liberal definition, and they're not a class following some hypothetical christian definition of a class (definition which does not exist)

Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 25 2024 12:09 utc | 95

Barrbock of Germany’s fanatical obeisance to the western Zion-caliphate mentality and reckless war mongering has rewarded her with humiliation at the hands of the vile zionazi reptile Netanyahu, lobbing Nazi epithets at her in trademark israeli projection.

Baerbock would do well to consider the question posed by Anton Chigur, the psychopath hitman played superbly by Olivier Bardem in “No country for old men”:

“If the rule that you lived by has led you to this - of what use was the rule?”

Many peddlers of the rules based international order / Zionist caliphate would do well to consider the same question.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 25 2024 14:56 utc | 96