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April 21, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-118
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 21 2024 15:24 utc | 1 The Cradle Posted by: ld | Apr 21 2024 15:56 utc | 2
Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 21 2024 16:02 utc | 3
another dog and pony show, or first signs that the pack is starting to eat themselfs? Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 21 2024 16:13 utc | 4 RE: Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 21 2024 16:13 utc | 4 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 21 2024 16:18 utc | 5 It would be worth watching if the number of Russians leaving israel starts increasing over the hoilday. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 21 2024 16:19 utc | 6 Netanyahu arrest warrant might be issued by ICC Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 21 2024 16:31 utc | 7 “We found in the Nasser Complex corpses without heads and bodies without skins, and some of them had their organs stolen,” Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2024 17:04 utc | 8 Human Rights Violations – Belgium Leads the Way to Re-Evaluate EU-Israel Trade Agreement Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2024 17:13 utc | 9 Today Escobar reconfirmed it: Posted by: Komarov | Apr 21 2024 17:19 utc | 10 When these politicians from vassal states start talking about endorsing the creation of a Palestinian state, one needs to be terrified of what the fine print will be. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2024 17:19 utc | 11 BOOBY-TRAPPED PALESTINIAN FLAG WOUNDS ISRAELI SETTLER IN WEST BANK (18+ VIDEO) Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2024 17:19 utc | 12 Leroy speaketh. Pepe says his source said an Israeli F35 with a nuke on board was shot down. When I hear the words “shot down”, I think of an aircraft falling out of the sky and crashing into the ground. However, perhaps “shot down” meant it was hit by enemy fire, was damaged, and had to abort the mission and return to safe territory. Crash landing? Thus, there would be no need for a massive search for a nuke on the ground. What do you folks think? Posted by: Leroy | Apr 21 2024 17:22 utc | 13 In Gaza the IDF are playing recordings of crying babies and screaming women in distress. Posted by: librul | Apr 21 2024 17:36 utc | 14 Big Story of the Day, apparently (so much for Pepe’s nuke!): IOF’s ultra-orthodox “Netzah Yehuda” batallion might be sanctioned for human rights violations in Gaza by Blinken’s State Department, according to Axios (as noted above). This is the kind of deep deep-state doo-doo we need industrial strength decoder rings to decipher. Another WTF?! moment, brought to you by producers of the humanitarian temporary pier. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 21 2024 17:52 utc | 16 Iran lost its little tit-for-tat against Israel and the Palestainians are still getting their azzes kicked by IDF. Posted by: Ray Pew | Apr 21 2024 17:55 utc | 17 US sanctions on Israeli persons and entities are essentially performative, especially as seen beside continuing announcements of arms shipments – the latest from just days ago featuring a large replenishment of explosive shells for Israel’s tanks. Posted by: jayc | Apr 21 2024 17:55 utc | 18 Getting scared yet? You should be. Doesn’t matter if the rumor about a downed F35, carrying an EMP weapon for Iran, is correct. It is certainly plausible. Posted by: OldVet | Apr 21 2024 18:07 utc | 19 …… Palestainians are still getting their azzes kicked by IDF.….. Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2024 18:17 utc | 20 Getting scared yet? You should be. Doesn’t matter if the rumor about a downed F35, carrying an EMP weapon for Iran, is correct. It is certainly plausible. Posted by: librul | Apr 21 2024 18:23 utc | 21 Props to TQC for reprinting the whole transcript in the previous Palestine thread. This statement from Norman Finklestein, on the subject of Israel’s Samson Option, is quite enough for a profound scare. Worst ever, in my experience.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/component/content/article/finklestein-israel-is-a-lunatic-state-certifiably-crazy?catid=17&Itemid=220 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 21 2024 18:28 utc | 22 Leroy speaketh. Pepe says his source said an Israeli F35 with a nuke on board was shot down. When I hear the words “shot down”, I think of an aircraft falling out of the sky and crashing into the ground. However, perhaps “shot down” meant it was hit by enemy fire, was damaged, and had to abort the mission and return to safe territory. Crash landing? Thus, there would be no need for a massive search for a nuke on the ground. What do you folks think? Posted by: Newbie | Apr 21 2024 18:35 utc | 23 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 21 2024 18:35 utc | 23 Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 21 2024 18:49 utc | 24 “Look at the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. A candidate for the “Constitution Party” needs to be found soon. Leaders abound and, remember, we vastly outnumber the predatory capitalists’ political vassals” Posted by: Osori | Apr 21 2024 18:50 utc | 25 https://www.southfront.press/satellite-images-show-damage-to-s-300pmu2-radar-at-irans-isfahan-air-base/ Posted by: snake | Apr 21 2024 18:50 utc | 26 About the Israeli/EMP attack using a nuke above the atmosphere. Looks like Iran has stored their missiles underground from photos I have seen. How far can the EMP reach below ground? If not far than the Iranians may have their missiles available to be launched. Posted by: Erelis | Apr 21 2024 18:53 utc | 27 https://www.southfront.press/satellite-images-show-damage-to-s-300pmu2-radar-at-irans-isfahan-air-base/ Posted by: Newbie | Apr 21 2024 18:56 utc | 28 @Aleph_Null Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 21 2024 19:02 utc | 29 @16 aleph_null re: US sanctions on IDF bat. Posted by: pxx | Apr 21 2024 19:07 utc | 30 @27 – re: emp Posted by: pxx | Apr 21 2024 19:12 utc | 31 Here’s the thing, Iran’s attack was loud and proud. Broadcasted in advance and fantastically displayed. Bonus, it achieved actual results. Posted by: Suresh | Apr 21 2024 19:24 utc | 32 “Leroy speaketh. Pepe says his source said an Israeli F35 with a nuke on board was shot down. When I hear the words “shot down”, I think of an aircraft falling out of the sky and crashing into the ground. However, perhaps “shot down” meant it was hit by enemy fire, was damaged, and had to abort the mission and return to safe territory. Crash landing? Thus, there would be no need for a massive search for a nuke on the ground. What do you folks think?” “About the Israeli/EMP attack using a nuke above the atmosphere. Looks like Iran has stored their missiles underground from photos I have seen. How far can the EMP reach below ground? If not far than the Iranians may have their missiles available to be launched. Posted by: Joy N. | Apr 21 2024 19:13 utc | 32 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 21 2024 20:00 utc | 35 Self-fulfilling prophecies Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 21 2024 20:11 utc | 36 Can’t believe anyone is still gullible enough to believe the single F35 story. Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 21 2024 20:17 utc | 37
Ditto. I am amazed too. We thought that the fake attack against Iran was the Psyop. How wrong we were!!! Posted by: Framarz | Apr 21 2024 20:33 utc | 38 Looks like the Rafah offensive is back on the menu. Posted by: ChrisFromGA | Apr 21 2024 20:33 utc | 39 Bemildred | Apr 21 2024 20:17 utc | 38 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 21 2024 20:34 utc | 40 About the F-35, I just read something in a comment somewhere else that I would like to know If someone has heard or can confirm. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 21 2024 20:43 utc | 41 George Galloway on his MOATS program just concluded seemed convinced that the Rafah attack would take place, with American approval. Posted by: Lysias | Apr 21 2024 20:43 utc | 42 snake / Newbie | Apr 21 2024 18:56 utc | 28 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 21 2024 20:44 utc | 43 In my opinion, Germany Baerbock went to Netanyahu as she was made aware that the ICJ Nicaragua/Germany case, and request for “provisional measures” will most likely be responded to this week. When Rachel Blevins had attorney Francis Boyle on 10 days ago, he suggested it would be last Friday. Since the Iran/Israel commotion, guessing more likely this week, as provisional measures insinuated urgency. Baerbock was not there to lecture about “Iran restraint”… not sure what she had heads up about, I do not know if ICJ will simply comeback and decide complaints invalid, but more pressure is coming. Links below: Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 21 2024 20:50 utc | 45 Holy Cow! =) Coming soon, tomorrow on April 22nd! Be there. It’ll be (on) fire! Posted by: titmouse | Apr 21 2024 21:00 utc | 46 Keep in mind, there are a LOT of Russians in Israel, their human intel will be very good.” Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 21 2024 21:02 utc | 47 That booster found in Iraq probably has to do with the strike on the PMU. Reports was that Iraqi AD assets were moved toward the Jordanian border when it transpired Jordan had dropped its veil and openly sided with the Zionist entity. Posted by: Suresh | Apr 21 2024 21:06 utc | 48 Re pepe story. The sane logical and methodical, all trying to analyse the psychos. Can you really say a nation prepared to nuke the world if they lose would refuse to even try to nuke Iran to kick start a bigger war to not lose. Seriously no one would dismiss this story if it was a Ukraine/ NATO operation against Russia. Posted by: Hankster | Apr 21 2024 21:27 utc | 49 Here is a very interesting article that warned that Israel would attack Iran with an EMP bomb if it tried to respond to the Israeli attack on the Iranian consulate in Syria. Posted by: ak74 | Apr 21 2024 21:31 utc | 50 ak74 | Apr 21 2024 21:31 utc | 51– Posted by: titmouse | Apr 21 2024 21:00 utc | 47
/cheap cheap! Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 21 2024 21:47 utc | 52 Speaking of scary, this pure red heifer business has me holding my breath until we get through Monday the 22nd okay. It all sounds way too wacky to worry about, but Zionist fanatics are apparently driving this bus, trying to convince everyone that they really are that crazy…
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 21 2024 21:58 utc | 53 Bemildred | Apr 21 2024 20:17 utc | 38 Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 21 2024 22:13 utc | 54 There was a Post on EretzIsrael @X 12th April which detailed the workings of an EMP Blast and that this would be the israeli response. Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Apr 21 2024 22:31 utc | 55 The psychopathic terrorist jews in jewsrael are going to burn those poor red heifers alive. Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Apr 21 2024 22:37 utc | 56 Doesn’t matter who says what when there is almost no details at all and what little is claimed makes no actual sense and is in many ways self-contradictory. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 21 2024 22:50 utc | 57 Netinyahoo is keen to start attacking Rafa so the bbc radio news tells me. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 21 2024 22:52 utc | 58 From Niqnaq:
Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 21 2024 23:03 utc | 59 @ Bemildred | Apr 21 2024 23:03 utc | 60 who beat me to the posting from Reuters….thanks, grin Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 21 2024 23:14 utc | 60 The Iraq folks had backed off attacking the US bases in Iraq and Syria but it looks like Attacking us illegal bases is resuming now and I expect the situation to escalate, whatever that means….sigh Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 21 2024 23:17 utc | 61 RE: Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 21 2024 20:50 utc | 46 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 21 2024 23:21 utc | 62 @ ak74 | Apr 21 2024 21:31 utc | 51 Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 21 2024 23:24 utc | 63 RE: “Ray’s point: if true, we’ll know soon as this sort of thing can’t be covered up forever; and if true, it needs to be presented to the UNSC. Yes, the Zionists would certainly do such a thing and not ask for permission.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 21 2024 23:38 utc | 64 @ 28 re HARM Missile. Posted by: golddigger | Apr 21 2024 23:42 utc | 65 Netanyahu arrest warrant might be issued by ICC Posted by: Armalyte | Apr 21 2024 23:43 utc | 66 However Pepe’s EMP-Nuke scoop goes from here, his recent conduct has changed my opinion of him for good. Consider this passage from his latest tweet (dated 5:26 PM · Apr 21, 2024):
The first argument vainly asserts Pepe’s own authority, or that of unnamed sources whom Pepe trusts “a billion per cent” [sic]. Wonderful. The next appeal to reason evokes the unlikelihood of official sources ever telling the truth. No stuff, Pepe. Government accounts are total lies, therefore any and all alternative accounts must be swallowed whole like communion wafers. No thank you. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 21 2024 23:44 utc | 67 RE: “Better for netinyahoo to put a gun to his own head and pull the trigger. Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 21 2024 23:47 utc | 68 When Baerbock went on German TV after she had been talking to Netanyahu etc., trying to stop them from retaliating, she was completely out of touch. Yes, she’s talking bullshit all the time but I never saw her so frightened, twisting (German) words, breaking sentences etc. for a full seven minutes. Posted by: Multipolar Panda | Apr 21 2024 23:49 utc | 69 Re: genocide lawsuit against German Gov’t Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2024 23:59 utc | 70 RE: Protests: Berlin-Ireland-Switzerland Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 22 2024 0:00 utc | 71 Protests: France Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 22 2024 0:03 utc | 72 The police in Berlin have not arrested the demonstrators? Posted by: Lysias | Apr 22 2024 0:04 utc | 73 Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Apr 21 2024 22:37 utc | 57 Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 22 2024 0:05 utc | 74 I just looked in Tagesspiegel (which is the newspaper I used to read when I was stationed in Berlin). I saw nothing about demonstrations there today. Is there a reporting blackout? Posted by: Lysias | Apr 22 2024 0:13 utc | 75 RE: Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2024 23:59 utc | 71 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 22 2024 0:17 utc | 76 Polizei Berlin web site has a demonstration over Gaza scheduled at Pariserplatz today 1600-1800. Posted by: Lysias | Apr 22 2024 0:18 utc | 77 The Jews were rejected by God in 650 BC and again in 73 AD. There are different responses to the emotion of rejection ranging from rage to denial. All Jews experience God’s rejection but not all Jews react in the same way and not all Jews are Jews at all. Posted by: Giyane | Apr 22 2024 0:21 utc | 78 RE: Posted by: Giyane | Apr 22 2024 0:21 utc | 79 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 22 2024 0:35 utc | 79 Posted by: DuchessAndBob | 57 Posted by: Retaining_H2O | Apr 22 2024 0:45 utc | 80 Jordan worried today: Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 22 2024 0:56 utc | 82 Taylor Swift wild card candidate for president of united states. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 22 2024 0:59 utc | 83 Hell yeah, lex talionis! Posted by: titmouse | Apr 22 2024 1:09 utc | 84 ak74 | Apr 21 2024 21:31 utc | 51 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 22 2024 1:34 utc | 85 According to the ‘news’ in Oz this morning, Satanyahu has resumed bombing Rafah. The death toll is 20, 18 of whom were Children. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 22 2024 2:24 utc | 86 Posted by: Retaining_H2O | Apr 22 2024 0:45 utc | 81 Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2024 2:27 utc | 87 Posted by: Retaining_H2O | Apr 22 2024 0:45 utc | 81 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Apr 22 2024 2:32 utc | 88 Regarding the discussion of the “E-bomb”. Posted by: steven starr | Apr 22 2024 2:38 utc | 89 Part 4 of my blog series on the Ukraine war. Posted by: Rahul Deans | Apr 22 2024 3:21 utc | 90 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Apr 22 2024 2:32 utc | 89 Posted by: Retaining_H2O | Apr 22 2024 3:38 utc | 91 In this post, I argue that attention is focused on the Israel-Iran air strikes, the IDF has turned around its military operations and called the bluff of Iran and Hezbollah, based on data from IDF casualties, civilian death tolls and casualties in clashes with Hezbollah. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 22 2024 4:44 utc | 92 Arch, Posted by: Exile | Apr 22 2024 4:56 utc | 93 @ steven starr | Apr 22 2024 2:38 utc | 90 with the info on EMP events….thanks and welcome to the bar Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 22 2024 5:00 utc | 95 re: psychohistorian | Apr 22 2024 5:00 utc | 96 Posted by: steven starr | Apr 22 2024 5:55 utc | 96 Probably what the bar wants to here from you is whether the EMP technology has advanced to be something like a “mini-nuke” that could fit into an F35 like the scenario mentioned? Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 22 2024 5:59 utc | 97 @ steven starr | Apr 22 2024 5:55 utc | 97 with the measured response, thanks. Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 22 2024 6:05 utc | 98 @steven starr | Apr 22 2024 5:55 utc | 97 Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 22 2024 6:09 utc | 99 Note that the text in Business London poijts out the EMP would not hurt humans. Sure, the most humane army in the world would just make the whole country look like Gaza. Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 22 2024 6:19 utc | 100 |
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