Posted by: Suresh | Apr 21 2024 6:11 utc | 199
So you expect Escobar to reveal his sources? Asia is big and has countries like China and India and even large parts of Russia, which makes even Russia an Asian country. You think Escobar is crazy but I tell you who is crazy: Netanyahu is crazy and crazy stuff like the Beirut blast took place while he was PM. Israel’s links to those incidents have been dismissed with such rhetorical devices as “blood libel” but that riposte does not quite work since October 2024. I think that even if technical details are not accurate that does not kill the story. Anyway we are looking at an Israel attack which failed and the question is by how much, which depends on what the plan was. Pepe would not repeat the story on VK, Telegram and Twitter if he did not know what he is talking about. He is not an amateur. When he speculates he has the tendency to say so e.g. when he had a theory about the shooting of the passenger plane in Tehran.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 21 2024 6:28 utc | 203

… and the show goes on … weekend of fairy tales!
EXCLUSIVE US Air Force secretly develops missiles that could obliterate Iran’s nuclear facilities by zapping their electronics – without harming civilians
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13325343/US-Air-Force-develops-missiles-obliterate-Iran-nuclear-facilities.html
Posted by: Framarz | Apr 20 2024 19:21 utc | 99
Certainly a brilliant idea: even if the Gizmo is 100% fiction, our governments can spin endless tales of evil empires out of it:
Panic! Panic! UK government sources confirm Iran has a nuke, they can vaporize London within 45 minutes.
Followed by: our brave army, supported by our very own James Bond, disarmed the nukes with Magic Gizmo. No explosions and no bomb craters, but, you wouldn’t expect those from an EMP.
Hell, Israels strike last week was a raging success: while Iran mentions only a small explosion, Netanjahu’s Magic Gizmo set back Irans nuclear program by two decades.
According to confidential sources in US and UK secret services.

Posted by: Marvin | Apr 21 2024 6:53 utc | 205

Or did I miss something?
Posted by: rosross | Apr 21 2024 7:19 utc | 205
In a word: yes. The discussion is what Israel’s original intention was. The other alternative I can think of is that the US planted the story of a something happening somewhere in Iran or Iraq to dissuade Israel from doing anything foolish. It is not certain Israel will not trying something stupid later because the story of some toys hitting Iran comes from US sources, which is strange. Anyway the technical speculation can go only so far because the properties of the latest weapons is not open knowledge.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 21 2024 7:32 utc | 207

Meet the Jewish activist Germany arrested for being pro-peace and reconciliation
……“Germany is promoting only those Jews who are willing to produce anti-Muslim discourse. Jews who do not perceive Muslims as such are being marked as a threat not just to the German nation but to Jews themselves.”
Udi Raz, 34, is sitting in a cafe in Berlin, where he lives, reflecting on a turbulent six months. Since Israel’s war on Gaza began following the Hamas-led attacks of 7 October, Raz, an Israeli Jew raised in Haifa, has been fired from his job and had the activist group he’s part of labelled antisemitic by Germany’s official antisemitism commissioner.
Last Friday, German authorities arrested Raz, a board member of Jewish Voice for a Just Peace in the Middle East, after they cancelled and then banned the group’s three-day conference on Palestine…..
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/germany-crackdown-israel-gaza-jewish-activist

Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2024 7:48 utc | 209

Imo Pepe spreads such BS now and then because he has an audience for it, maybe even in some high spheres. So it has a purpose, no doubt about it.
Rumours of hamas moving out of qatar fits with intense behind the scene activities…
Egypt summoned Bahrein’s envoy after they participated in the zio defense. Now Erdo was forced to meet Haniyeh again after Qatar announced it would not be the chief negociator anymore. The brothers have to decide which side they are on and who they are working with. Qatar was most probably chastized by KSA with some threats of a new exclusion from the GCC.

Posted by: Minaa | Apr 21 2024 8:21 utc | 211

The dog trying to bite ankles on the Ukraine threads, now troll factory ankle biters attacking Escobar on the Palestine thread.
Part of the moor war bill passed in the US asylum and geriatric center was tiktok, more ‘surveilance’. Cant have anything interfering with the narrative in these dire times.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 21 2024 8:31 utc | 213

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 20 2024 20:11 utc | 110
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On April 16th, according to the Iranian administration, the Qatari emir “praised the Islamic Republic of Iran for its actions in formulating and implementing a response to the crimes” of Israel and said that the move “contains a clear and distinct message for all.”

Posted by: AI | Apr 21 2024 8:56 utc | 215

I hope this is not my sermon for the day but it may have to be.
Well f*****g done all – slow hand claps from me – for the astroturfing of the Palestine thread with the Iran/ illegal Entity topic instead – there’s a new word for that I can’t quite remember, I think it has galloping in iit.
Anyways, I might have mentioned my science background before… There’s certainly something to know. I’ll wait for our esteemed landlord to open the topic. I’d also love to ask Ornot and LD about their purposes of showing a bit of leg on Kuwait but not going the ‘Full Monty’ on it , there’s a word for that too and it includes ‘teasing’ I believe. An episode which ended up with the largest US deployed base in the ME to this day.
For now though, I’ll attempt to drag us back to our benighted collective wasters and the illegal occupation entity, we created , denying the right to existence of the Palestine and the actual Semitic peoples indigenous to the Levant for which we had no moral right or legal power except the self declared Anglo European imperialism of the ages.
Resultin in the daily calvary in Gaza and the Levant and their enduring daily torture and death at the hands of the Zionazis who have them trapped in their apartheid camps.
As those Last Of The Roman Empire, dressed now as Fascist Zionists Nazis , go full on Lord of the flies with their fairy tale mumbo jumbo dumb eschatology and occultism including genetically breeding the red female bovine that has never had a calf to be SACRIFICED!
A cheat and lie just like everything else about their whole existence and history.the shapeshifters from the steppes.
I’ll just repeat and ask the Hindu Indians and diasporas who ruminate here. India has played footsy and embraced the Illegal Entity which came into existence at about the same time as the subcontinent finally managed to kick out its Imperialist Occupiers (not as well as they could have because of the long established comprador classes) – What do Modi, Sunak and the Yankee Hindus say (or NOT) about that ?
Surely it must be an eye-opener for all the devout 5-eyed Hindus, who revere holy cows, and the hundreds of millions going to the polling booths in India now! Should that Humpty Dumpty get off the wall on the right side of history all humanity’s continuing woes would soon be over and we would be set towards civilisational progress again in this millennium.
The totally fascist , Nazi like mental aberration is guaranteed to end badly for the Zionazis and the remnant Collective Wasted Empire that built and holds it in place in the Levant.
Just as it ended in disaster for the original Nazis and is for the current self deluded beggar thug natzios of Ukraine.
So Zionazists . Leave now with what you can arrange to transport or leave by force carrying only what you can and what is in your stomach as your last meal – time to Passover back to where you were bred fools – yes ignorance is no defence – you too were created as the current sacrificial ruminants to die to the last you for the conquests of your benighted Owners and Masters through the centuries.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 21 2024 9:34 utc | 217

Jasenovac Memorial Service today – 1.1 million victims
SFSN

Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2024 9:56 utc | 219

It is highly possable that Russia was also an inacent go between, encoaraging comunication between Iran and Israel, as they as we know t have major conections between both Israel and iran.
Russia also are parimont advacats of negotiation. Were as evident here, the west are “incapable of negotiation”
After the Iran Genrals were killed by Israel we saw Russia moving its Navy into possition in the red sea ectra.
Russia have now taken sides with Iran. Against Israel. Watch this space.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 21 2024 10:18 utc | 221

Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2024 7:48 utc | 208
re Germany arrests, antisemetic censorship etc thanks for the news reports.
I cannot get my head around these things at all.
How has it come to this.
Have they gone mad like the US? (rhetorical question .. what does it matter)

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 21 2024 10:35 utc | 223

Jonathan W @ 223
That train left the station. Pepe is right!
And i just stoped sitting on the fence.
Things arent a slowmo any more.
Were gunna need to keep up.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 21 2024 10:45 utc | 225

It was interesting to read Escobar’s initial EMP post. My initial thought was it seemed a bit outlandish. But, his sources have consistently delivered. It left me conflicted.
Then I saw Ritter’s response. He came in strong.
Escobar addressed that and made it sound like more would come in a day.
No one bats 1,000. If correct, it would be very interesting to follow. If incorrect, has one of his sources jumped the shark? Did they feed him bad information on purpose?
All in all, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Much appreciation to all the Barflies for the insight and links.

Posted by: Slat1 | Apr 21 2024 11:32 utc | 227

Posted by: Slat1 | Apr 21 2024 11:32 utc | 226
“First of all, as much as I respect Scott, I am just a messenger of an extremely explosive intel leak relayed by an unimpeachable source.
An Asian source – that’s all I can reveal.
I asked for surefire confirmation several times and only published the information when the source confirmed a big world power totally validated it – but would remain mum.
The source also stressed there is a consensus among big powers that the information should be treated in “this information will self-destruct in five seconds” style.
This never happened.
If the sources retracts, and it’s deep into the night now in Asia, of course I will retract the post – with apologies.
Meanwhile, I will soon publish a physics analysis of what may have happened – or not.”

Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 21 2024 11:49 utc | 229

Johnathan @ 228
Thanks for putting that up.
I have just pressed rewind on this thread and saw your comment @ 72 a good question, i wonder has it been answered yet.
Cheers.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 21 2024 12:02 utc | 231

Sunday, April 21, 05:00 am (GMT+2)
ANADOLU: Ismail Haniyeh, head of the political bureau of the Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas:
Washington’s position on the Rafah invasion is deceptive and we did not fall into the swapping roles between Americans and Israelis.
If the enemy decides to go to Rafah, our people will not raise the white flag and the Resistance is ready to defend itself.
Israel did not agree to a ceasefire and what it wants is to take back its prisoners and then resume the war, and this will not happen.
The administration of the Gaza Strip must be carried out by Palestinian will.
We welcome any Arab or Islamic forces if they come as liberator, and not to provide protection for the occupation.
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/gaza-live-blog-mass-grave-in-khan-yunis-massacre-in-rafah-west-bank-under-attack-day-198/

Posted by: JB | Apr 21 2024 12:28 utc | 233

Found this via Escobar’s Telegram
https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1782015672639168882

VERY IMPORTANT UPDATE
I now have TWO separate, definitive confirmations from TWO ultra high level intel sources from TWO separate Asian nations. Working to get a third – at least a partial acknowledgment.
I moved to Asia 30 years ago. Built a unparalleled network. Trust my top sources a billion per cent.
The original source that led to my first post reconfirmed he stands by it. His words:
“I’m honestly surprised that people are surprised. Do they really think if something like this happened it’s gonna be presented to them in front of their TVs? It’s like history has taught them nothing.”
Working on a first column – probably out tomorrow.
Many thanks to all who offered informed, sharp comment and criticism. This should be a collective effort to get to what might have happened: the shape of it, not necessarily the details as they were leaked.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 21 2024 12:32 utc | 235

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 21 2024 12:32 utc | 234
Perhaps it is true-if it is we are a lot closer to Armageddon that I had thought.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 21 2024 12:40 utc | 237

This development would explain why both israel the US and UK have been acting strainge these last days, less united more mute, less loud regarding the conflict.
Things are now more sereous, volitile. From being in control, now they will need to deal with the multitude of implications of their actions.
Are their air bases secure ? Not least in qatar and Jordan. Will we see a hike in the standard of ordanance available to the resistence ?
Consulate safety ?
The ubiqutase large drones over Palistine, a turkey shoot ? The bases those drones come from ?
Volitile would be the word now.
Lines have been crossed.
Uk and US will see fall out on their own turf.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 21 2024 13:05 utc | 239

Pepe Escobar seems to be serious about setting a new standard for bizarre credulity. I couldn’t believe that nuclear shoot-down story was serious the first time I heard it, and I still don’t. The question hangs out there unasked: What about the nuke, then?
Larry Johnson poses serious doubts as respectfully as possible, because Pepe has sometimes been a good worker in the vineyard of enlightenment…

If Russia shot down a F-35 with a nuke on board that means there is a live nuke on the ground in Iraq or Syria. Israel and/or the U.S. would be racing to recover that weapon. We’re not seeing any evidence of such a recovery effort. That would involved major air assets and I don’t see how Israel would be allowed to operate in those parts of Iraq or Syria.
That’s my take. Let the debate begin.

https://sonar21.com/pepe-escobar-ignites-social-media/
I don’t see any room for debate about this. Pepe needs to knock it off, maybe take some time off and get his bearings. Sy Hersh is so disoriented he’s become humiliated as a propaganda outlet. Escobar can also be used by cynical sources.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 21 2024 13:26 utc | 241

Well. What about the person who advertised a property with the warning, No Asians. But what the person who placed the ad had actually dictated on the phone was, No Agents.
I wouldn’t trust any Asian or Agent further than I could throw either of them. Those who have been on the receiving end of the Perfidious Lies of Albion and Co.Inc. carry a lot of resentment baggage .
Now, does the resentment baggage of 2,623 years of Jews being kick
Key out of Palestine justify making up the Talmud? If Yes, does the resentment baggage of 323 years of being being de-empired and colonised by Perfidious Albion justify lying to an English speaking, Mexican Jassous/ spy. Probably yes.
Shit happens . We have to sometimes not react to it.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2024 13:29 utc | 243

An EMP (of any sort I’m aware) would be detonated in the upper atmosphere. It couldn’t be delivered by an F-35.

Posted by: darling corey | Apr 21 2024 13:41 utc | 245

“All sides are being very tight lipped about events. Even if Israel dropped a grenade on Iran, Iran would respond.”
Well, there is the other theory that the US and Iran made an agreement to stage a fake attack on Iran with some drones before the Zionists could start their real retaliation strike, and afterwards the US told the Zionists to shut up and play along.

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 21 2024 13:57 utc | 247

time out

Posted by: librul | Apr 21 2024 14:18 utc | 249

What a time for a party!
Were you aware of how suspicious the relocation of the Rave Party was? The Rave Party that was held just 3 miles from the walls of Gaza.
From Haaretz, Israel’s “paper of record”
(Israel media is heavily, heavily censored.
It is a struggle to tell as much truth as one can without being shot down.)
https://archive.is/9msVK
Headline: “IDF Allowed Rave Later Attacked by Hamas Despite Key Officer’s Concern”
“The Gaza Division’s operations officer, Lt. Col. Sahar Fogel, opposed the Nova rave taking place on October 7 near the border with Gaza, arguing that it was a needless security risk.
Furthermore, his objection was seconded by other officers, both at the Gaza Division and at the Southern Command headquarters. But in a conversation with the IDF’s operations division, he was instructed to approve the event.”
“During the days preceding the massacre, the system had received warnings that Hamas would try to attack on Israeli soil. The information was based on several sources who noticed alarming preparations by Hamas personnel, as well as intelligence that raised the concern growing among various security figures.
Haaretz has not been able to verify whether Lt. Col. Fogel was aware of this intelligence, or whether his opposition to the event was related to it.
Then came Oct. 7. Hours before the terror attack, the security establishment received signs and warnings leading to its decision to prepare – if only partially – for a terrorist incursion. But no IDF officer updated the thousands of revelers or the rave organizers of the fear of an attack, or demanded that they break up the party and leave the area.”
What a time for a party!
The officers normally charged with approving/disapproving such an event were overruled by higher-ups.
Recall that Israel had been in possession of Hamas’ detailed plans for Oct 7th and they had it nearly a full year before Oct 7th. Detailed. Israel knew the Rave was in the danger zone, but the Rave was relocated to within 3 miles of the Gaza wall. People in Gaza could hear the Rave taking place.
And this was taking place with diminished troop levels. Israel had recently temporarily moved the majority of it’s forces around Gaza to the West Bank.
————-
Haaretz post script:
“In private conversations, some officers in the Gaza Division told of irregular conduct and pressure surrounding the approval of the party [Rave],”
————-
What a time for a party!
Israel was in possession of Hamas’ *detailed* plan for Oct 7th a year in advance.
Israel removed the majority of it’s forces around Gaza just prior to Oct 7th.
Plus! Israel’s own intelligence officers were warning — in writing — that they believed an attack was imminent.
It was hours before the IDF arrived in force after the Hamas jail break, Israel refuses to explain why.
But even before the arrival in force of the IDF Israel had implemented the Hannabal Directive.
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/11/21/haaretz-grayzone-conspiracy-israeli-festivalgoers/
If the world community saw that all the slaughter that Israel tries to justify because of Oct 7th
was the result of a treacherous scheme from Israeli leaders then Israel would be the pariah state it has earned.
If Israelis themselves knew! **If they knew! and accepted!**, that their sons and daughters died on Oct 7th because of the treason of their leaders it would change Israel forever.

Posted by: librul | Apr 21 2024 14:20 utc | 251

@Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 21 2024 14:29 utc | 252
Another site I used to visit was forced to remove all content about Gaza.

Posted by: librul | Apr 21 2024 14:32 utc | 253

Another site I used to visit was forced to remove all content about Gaza.
@Posted by: librul | Apr 21 2024 14:32 utc | 253
For clarification, it wasn’t *my* comments about Gaza that were removed
it was **everything** Gaza, especially articles written by the owner of the site.

Posted by: librul | Apr 21 2024 14:56 utc | 255

@ Richard L 256
There used to be saying Britain about today’s news being tomorrow’s fish n chip paper. Pepe is popular influencer in alt-media, he’s sourced plenty of bs stories in the past and in a few days, he will have forgotten this one as will his followers.

Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Apr 21 2024 15:06 utc | 257

Old Soviietolgist @ 257
Nucular fishon and fried micro chips lets hope not a.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 21 2024 15:39 utc | 259

laguerre | Apr 20 2024 15:18 utc | 22 responds to
“unfortunately Israel in one form or another is here to stay, its to well backed by the West to remove it,” which was posted by Republicofscotland | Apr 20 2024 15:12 utc | 19 as follows:
<=I don't agree with that. You exaggerate the power of the "west". The power of the Lobby is Jewish money intervening in American elections. The Gaza genocide is turning a lot of people against that, and elections are notoriously fickle. Netanyahu has put Israel on the road to decline. Lavrov's Dog | Apr 21 2024 6:41 utc | 138 on the Ukrainian thread the following link https://www.voltairenet.org/article220708.html , it applies to both Ukraine and Israel and it says in part
“..fueled by two fascist groups allies since 1917 (Dmytro Dontsov’s Ukrainian “integral nationalists” and Vladimir Ze’ev Jabotinsky’s Israeli “revisionist Zionists”)”; accomplish their goals by threats to launch of nuclear Armageddon {<=and Epstein like method}. The "integral nationalists" are constantly attacking Russia inside its territory and in Sudan, while the "revisionist Zionists" are bombing Lebanon, Syria and Iran. But no one responds: [because the war would go nuclear?] <= Unlike Voltairenet.org article =>these two facist groups “represent no significant stakes in themselves, but a defeat for the West, which, after its defeat in Syria, would mark the end of its hegemony over the world” <--- <==I believe the stakes are significant. They involve eliminating competition to source oil, gas, minerals, food and technology to all of Europe. These commodities command massive profits, especially if the profits don't have to be shared with Russia, and there is no competition from Russian sources to supply Europe. The beneficiaries of the nuclear threat by these two groups, equates to Epstein like blackmail, are multi national corporations who control the governments [by lobbying and possibly blackmail] that host their home base. Destruction of Nord Stream II denied Europe Cheap Russia oil. Sanctions and blocking Russia access to Swift blocked European dealings with Russia AWA use of 300 billion in Russian Foreign Reserves, continuous NATO encroachments which forced Russia into the SMO, with design to destroy Russia and to clear "Russian as suppliers of commodities to Europe". So if the Gazaians can be cleared from oil rich Gaza, and Ukraine can be removed from Russian oversight, nothing can stop these beneficiaries of the two groups from taking monopoly power advantage in nearly all European markets. Europe itself has been made dependent on the multi national western based corporations who control all of the western governments. in the Larry C. Johnson video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjq5fsvbGuo Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 20 2024 15:23 utc | 24 “it is said that Israel is not going to use their nukes because it would harm their own people, but Voltaire says not only do the integral nationalist or the revisionist Zionist not care if they harm their own people, but in fact they intend to use those people as tools to accomplish their intentions.
<= I agree, it is likely, revisionist cannot be stopped from their intention to use nukes on the basis that nukes might harm, even ruin Israel.. the objectives of these people do not need Israel per se.. meaning they are indifferent if Israel is nuked. the revisionist have a an objective that does not need the Israeli people or the Palestinian populations per se so bombing either of them is not a problem? Pepe's Telegraom Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 20 2024 15:35 utc | 29 suggest A F-35 loaded with a nuclear bomb was sent by israel East over Jordan to attack Iran.. and it was shot down by Russia. Karlof1's post ends with "Pepe's reporting what his source told him, and the possibility of that scenario is very credible, IMO, given the Zionist's level of craziness". <= I agree.. Posted by: C Khosta y Alzamendi | Apr 21 2024 15:07 utc | 258 Pepe Escobar has published in his Telegram an Tweeter accounts that the info has been confirmed by two independent Asian Intel sources from different countries: https://x.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1782015672639168882?t=ETJeKgAneOjwtl4ja00eGg&s=35
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 20 2024 15:37 utc | 30
The only solution is “Trial by Combat”. <=seems so. Posted by: Framarz | Apr 20 2024 15:46 utc | 34 asks: "do you really think there will be a Tel Aviv on the map after Iran discover that a nuclear assault was on the way? <= I suggest it is likely, Iran beholding to Russian demand to cease and dissist from attacks on Israel, if Iran wants Russian defense assistance. ? Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 20 2024 15:53 utc | 37 objects that "Israel would have chosen an F-35 as the delivery vehicle." <=which might be true, but if it is the group (Vladimir Ze'ev Jabotinsky as defined in the voltaire article behind the as yet unproven attack, that group may not have access to the submarines or different aircraft so maybe they had to use what they could get. Don't forget any privately owned corporation that makes this equipment could have provided it for this mission? Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 20 2024 16:05 utc | 45 If Escobar's report is true, then there's one more very major reason why the Zionists must be removed from power and Occupied Palestine 100% demilitarized. IMO, the Zionists are the #1 Terrorist Threat to Humanity, more so than the Outlaw US Empire. Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 20 2024 16:37 utc | 55 "They (the UN general assembly) has almost reach the 2/3 threshold of those recognizing Palestinian Statehood. Once done, Assembly will be called to convene." <=explains the timing issue, gee I don't know about that? Its possible but I think it is because the operations from the Levantine Gas reserve is about to go live; just as soon as there are no Gazaians or Russians to share in the profits. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 20 2024 16:54 utc | 61 If Pepe’s tale (Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Apr 20 2024 17:45 utc | 81) does have some substance behind it one obvious reason for keeping the story under wraps would be to avoid panicking the global oil markets.<= it's unlikely Russia would go for that as Russia would like to see oil inflation cause problems for the west. @Jonathan W | Apr 20 2024 16:00 utc | 42 reminds "Iran is simply telling the truth, the U.S. is engaged in a psyop, and the Israeli 'attack' was the complete failure it appears to have been." that too is likely.. Posted by: Jane | Apr 20 2024 18:52 utc | 95 re:Laguerre 41 and arch Bungle "The US insisted that elevation of Palestine’s diplomatic status can only be obtained after negotiations between the Palestinian Authority and Israel. "--Philip Giraldi <=if the Pepe version is true, this statement may no longer hold true? besides as Jane at 96 points out "More than 130 countries already recognize the State of Palestine" Posted by: Framarz | Apr 20 2024 19:21 utc | 99 EXCLUSIVE US Air Force secretly develops missiles that could obliterate Iran's nuclear facilities by zapping their electronics - without harming civilians https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13325343/US-Air-Force-develops-missiles-obliterate-Iran-nuclear-facilities.html
<= Neutron bombs eliminate humans and leave the infrastructure so what's new? Posted by: NJH | Apr 20 2024 20:27 utc | 113 https://postimg.cc/JD1CgLY6 <= interesting support for the EMP Nuke theory.. Posted by: sikuvit | Apr 20 2024 20:43 utc | 117 https://londonlovesbusiness.com/iran-will-be-hit-with-an-e-bomb-as-tehran-warns-israels-embassies-are-no-longer-safe/
more support for the EMP Nuke theory?
Posted by: Turk 152 | Apr 21 2024 2:27 utc | 169
<= challenges Pepe's EMP Nuclear Attack story

Posted by: snake | Apr 21 2024 16:30 utc | 261

RE snippet by snake
The beneficiaries of the nuclear threat by these two groups, equates to Epstein like blackmail, are multi national corporations who control the governments [by lobbying and possibly blackmail] that host their home base.
Destruction of Nord Stream II denied Europe Cheap Russia oil. Sanctions and blocking Russia access to Swift blocked European dealings with Russia AWA use of 300 billion in Russian Foreign Reserves, continuous NATO encroachments which forced Russia into the SMO, with design to destroy Russia and to clear “Russian as suppliers of commodities to Europe”.
So if the Gazaians can be cleared from oil rich Gaza, and Ukraine can be removed from Russian
oversight, nothing can stop these beneficiaries of the two groups from taking monopoly power advantage in nearly all European markets. Europe itself has been made dependent on the multi national western based corporations who control all of the western governments.
Posted by: snake | Apr 21 2024 16:30 utc | 261
Thanks for that, I’m clearer now on your pov from the earlier page. The above sounds about right to me too (but only guessing as I have no facts to hand only interpretations of shadowy actions and propaganda)
and it also seems plausible there are other western entities/groups in competition with the above mentioned powerful ‘cabal/s’ iow deep state operators.
The summary of various posts and your comments was also helpful ….. there is a lot going on very hard to keep up of get a decent perspective. WE are being heavily manipulated, at least most here are at aware of this even if disagreement arise, but the avg joe’s have no idea.
and I have no idea or opinion over escobar’s suggestions/info leaks …. without jumping to conclusions based solely on hearsay (insider reports) I tend to recognize now almost anything is possible – but more and more my skepticism mode is much higher these days. way too much bs floating in the western media streams. I don’t naively believe anyone now, not even the Russians without some firm evidence and logical consistency. (at least I hope not – I’m still fallible)
best wishes

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 22 2024 4:22 utc | 263

canuck | Apr 22 2024 11:42 utc | 264
Oooops, yes TY, it’s a typo Posted by: snake | Apr 21 2024 16:30 utc | 261
and I missed it when copy/paste. Good catch! 🙂

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 22 2024 12:43 utc | 265