https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/2024-04-18/live-updates-797664
Palestinians will be sacrificed for Iran attack on Israel.

Posted by: Roberto | Apr 18 2024 14:38 utc | 3

With the phrase “Suez moment” Bhadrakumar signals agreement with observers (such as Ritter) who see a new chapter opening in the big book of world history, since April 14.

The heart of the matter is that Tehran has given a strong message that it has formidable strategic capability in reserve to directly attack Israel. In reality, the western/Israeli propaganda that nearly all the projectiles fired at Israel were interjected and “there was little damage,” blah, blah, is irrelevant.
Israeli decision makers are hard-headed realists who know that taking on Iran on own steam is way beyond their country’s capability — unless Biden orders direct US intervention in the ensuing war. This is really Israel’s “Suez moment.”

https://www.indianpunchline.com/israel-grapples-with-its-suez-moment/
This “Suez moment” stretches into a Suez week as hegemonic power projection crumples. The whole world delights in the pathetic spectacle, we see Israel bare its teeth like an emaciated coyote, while Iran calmly recites from the epistle of Dirty Harry:

Do you feel lucky, punk?
Go ahead, make my day!

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 18 2024 14:42 utc | 5

Started to put something together for the Georgia thread, there is a deep deep deep corrupt Israel/Georgia connection. So much material to choose from !!
This article you will find interesting. It concerns Hezbollah/IDF and Georgia.
Came across this article while researching IDF/Georgia General Gal Hirsch (who, as far as I have gone with my research, was charged in Israel with tax evasion from the 11 million dollars he earned while working — pushing Israeli weapons while working as a general — in Georgia during the failed 2008 Georgia/US invasion of South Ossetia). Gen Gal Hirsch was one of the IDF fall guys for the failed 2006 invasion of Lebanon. Hirsch was in charge of the border area where Israel conducted a false-flag and let border guards get taken and killed. It was used as the pretext for invading Lebanon in 2006.
Gen Hirsch fled to Georgia after he was left holding the bag in 2006.
When the coast appeared to be clear he returned to Israel a few years later, much wealthier.
https://wrp.org.uk/features/failed-israeli-generals-failed-in-georgia-as-well-says-hezbollah-leader-nasrallah/
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Corruption, incompetence and treachery; these are not mutually exclusive. The Israeli official version for the Oct 7th failure will be “incompetence”;
some of us see it a different way. The IDF was indeed incompetent in their LIHOP plot, they left too many “foot prints” in their plotting thus exposing themselves.
But have a look at September 11th, so much evidence that the official version is crap; yet, the mockingbird press still persists.

Posted by: librul | Apr 18 2024 15:01 utc | 7

the mockingbird press still persists.
@ librul | Apr 18 2024 15:01 utc | 7
That’s a slur on mockingbirds, surely one of the most miraculous manifestations to ever confront the human ear. Infinite inventiveness, never repeating itself, rhythm and melody parting ways, then reuniting mid-air.
On the other hand, the MICIMATT is bolted down in fascist constraints, dull as dust, incessantly repeating the same old same old. You can insult my country, my press, or even my dear departed mother. There no excuse for dissing mockingbirds. One sings outside my window this very moment, enthusiastically endorsing this message.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 18 2024 15:12 utc | 9

@Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 18 2024 15:12 utc | 9
Are you sure it isn’t a Brown Thrasher?
They sound a lot alike.
A Mockingbird watched me this morning from my garage roof as I put the bird feeders back out.
He was first to perch.

Posted by: librul | Apr 18 2024 15:16 utc | 11

@Posted by: librul | Apr 18 2024 15:01 utc | 7
Maybe the bar won’t read the article @7
but this snip is worth noting as it reminds one — is almost prophetic — reminds one of the US’ Ukraine adventure.

‘It exported some of those failed general, such as General Gal Hirsch, who went to Georgia.
‘That miserable government entrusted him with establishing, training, and rehabilitating the Georgian Special Forces.
‘Georgia, which relied on Israeli experts and Israeli weapons in confronting Russia, is facing the failure it has learned from failed generals.
‘By the way, what happened in Georgia these days is a lesson for all of those who accept to be pushed by America into adventures, uncalculated wars, and hopeless confrontations. At the end, America abandons them, and simply issues a statement as a lip service, for its interests are above anything else.’

Also this, with Ehud Barak concluding the 2006 failure was due to incompetence. (All elements were in fact there – corruption, incompetence and treachery)

Nasrallah also commented on Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak’s assertions that Israel’s failure in 2006 was because of the lack of combat expertise among the command that waged that war.

Posted by: librul | Apr 18 2024 15:23 utc | 13

Palestinians will be sacrificed for Iran attack on Israel.
Posted by: Roberto | Apr 18 2024 14:38 utc | 3
Palestinians will be sacrificed if Netanyahoo stubs his toe. This happens every morning.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 18 2024 15:29 utc | 15

Iranian commander warns Tehran could review its ‘nuclear doctrine’ amid Israeli threats
Posted by: Loyal | Apr 18 2024 15:22 utc | 12
Bad move to telegraph like that.
I hope Iran’s generals have discreetly chosen to break the nuclear fatwa or have even more terrifying weapons in store.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 18 2024 15:32 utc | 17

Your list is now my property.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 18 2024 15:33 utc | 18
Awesome!
That is why I & the bar post.

Posted by: librul | Apr 18 2024 15:39 utc | 19

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 18 2024 14:36 utc | 2
##########
They can’t create a Google competitor. Google is a creature of government, as is Facebook and most big tech firms.
Google, Facebook, etc are all at the center of social control through the digital realm, the only one that may be legit is TikTok which would explain all of the sturm and drang about who runs it and what happens with data.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 18 2024 15:46 utc | 21

I have no words for the following degeneracy of our media regarding a grieving relative, so here’s post:
https://news.yahoo.com/devastating-image-aunt-grieving-gaza-140607619.html
“Devastating Image of Aunt Grieving in Gaza Wins World Press Photo of the Year Award”
“A harrowing photograph showing a woman in Gaza sobbing in a morgue as she cradles the body of her 5-year-old niece won the 2024 World Press Photo of the Year Award on Thursday.
Mohammed Salem, a 39-year-old Palestinian Reuters photographer, captured the image at Nasser hospital in Khan Younis in the south of the enclave on Oct. 17, 2023. The picture shows Inas Abu Maamar, 36, embracing the shrouded corpse of her niece, Saly.”
Some here will comment: “it’s a great “awareness” for the “cause” photo…
There isn’t much that actually sickens my stomach these days, but a “photo of the year” dedicated to genocide I has done it….again…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 18 2024 15:53 utc | 23

RE: “Palestinians will be sacrificed for Iran attack on Israel.”
Posted by: Roberto | Apr 18 2024 14:38 utc | 3
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 18 2024 14:47 utc | 6
Roberto’s is just another round of the standard hasbara narrative that the world or Arab world has lost interest in the fate of the Palestinians, or is ready to sacrifice them for more important issues.
Making a success of this narrative is central to the Zionist future. They are not going to let it drop. Which is why these strange new commenters show up every day.

Posted by: laguerre | Apr 18 2024 16:00 utc | 25

Will Iran build the bomb?
There is discussion about the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (Iran nuclear deal) and the possibility that Iran may decide to build nuclear weapons at the end of yesterday’s thread on Iran And Saudi Arabia – A Common Future Looking East.
See my post here.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 18 2024 16:13 utc | 27

What’s going here?
Could it be that even the IRGC is beginning to think like me … ?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 18 2024 15:45 utc | 20
I think we have found where shadowbanned went as he left the bar….
Now seriously, Iran going nuclear is a bag full of trouble that nobody wants to open, for starters it would be a matter of days/weeks, before the saudis ask for their nukes (that pakistan is holding but already paid for)
Then all the non-proliferation would come crumbling down (even the fine veil that pretends to still cover its shame would be ripped). Let’s see what else could be in the cards…
Algeria might be a good candidate and they already have iskanders and the mig-25 is still a nice platform for kinzal type missiles. And for testing they already have radiation contaminated zones (the french started it)

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 18 2024 16:19 utc | 29

Do you feel lucky, punk?
Go ahead, make my day! 🙂
The Cradle says Iran hit the officers club and swimming pool on the Nevitim Base strike. Shows Iran does have a “Dirty Harry” sense of humor.
Iran built a mock up of the Nevitim base out in their desert, to practice their rocket attacks on.
I doubt it was a random hit.
Last 2 paragraphs.
https://thecradle.co/articles/israeli-air-defenses-are-not-untouchable

Posted by: golddigger | Apr 18 2024 16:35 utc | 31

Sanctions, Sanctions, Sanctions and more Sanctions
From Reuters
US announces new sanctions on Iran after missile and drone strike on Israel
Nothing like flailing with a dead chicken…what a shit show….the best private money can buy

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 18 2024 16:52 utc | 33

The US is lobbying Ecuador to lobby Malta…
@ Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 18 2024 16:53 utc | 34
Hoo boy! Such accounts of United Nations contacts start to remind me of an old Tom Lehrer song…

I got it from Agnes
She got it from Jim
We all agree it must have been
Louise who gave it to him
Now, she got it from Harry
Who got it from Marie
And everybody knows that Marie
Got it from me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WHSVOVLmNY

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 18 2024 17:07 utc | 35

To No. 12: Only if we assume that the general is not sufficiently aware of the potential consequences. Another interpretation is that they are several steps ahead and have already surpassed the traditional completion. With new technology and AI, there may be no need for physical testing and publicizing. Perhaps. Intriguing, isn’t it?

Posted by: Loyal | Apr 18 2024 17:31 utc | 37

rewrite of recent Reuters headline:
Global South nations announce stiff sanctions on israel after missile strike on Iranian consulate in Damascus, Syria, in clear violation of the Vienna Convention (1961) and other international laws. The EU follows swiftly with its own set of harsh sanctions.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 18 2024 17:35 utc | 39

Minor kerfuffle brewing over at Matt Taibbi’s Substack. Seeing a lot of comments critical of the NPR guy Uri Berliner’s resignation having more to do with his (zionist) hurt feelings over Israel coverage being deleted.
I thought Matt was against censorship? I guess the Zionists have got to him too.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 18 2024 17:47 utc | 41

It looks like Palestinians (mainly children) dying from hunger and thirst will increase, its utterly unbelievable that the West is allowing this to happen and in some cases actually aiding and abetting the Zionist genocide.
“The United Nations Relief Works and Agency (UNRWA) has warned that the grip of a “man-made” famine is tightening its grip across the war-torn Gaza Strip, as Israel has severely blockaded the Palestinian territory plunging it into a humanitarian crisis.
UNRWA Commissioner General Philippe Lazzarini on Wednesday sounded the alert, condemning Israel for blocking aid deliveries to the besieged Gaza Strip and attempting to end the agency’s activities in the war-ravaged coastal sliver.
“Today, an insidious campaign to end UNRWA’s operations is underway, with serious implications for international peace and security,” he told the 15-member UN Security Council, warning, “Across Gaza, a man-made famine is tightening its grip.”
Lazzarini, whose agency is a critical source of support for people in Gaza, also said that in the north of the Palestinian territory, “infants and young children have begun to die of malnutrition and dehydration.”
The occupying regime, however, prevents UNRWA from delivering the desperately needed aid to starving inhabitants of Gaza.
“Across the border, food and clean water wait. But UNRWA is denied permission to deliver this aid and save lives,” Lazzarini further told the UNSC.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 18 2024 18:00 utc | 43

Well in my (42) comment I asked which nation will do its best to veto Palestinian membership of the UN (on a full basis), I think this answers that question.
“The United States is reported to be secretly pushing members of the UN Security Council into rejecting Palestine’s bid to become a full member of the world body.
The revelation was reported on Wednesday by The Intercept, an online American news organization, which cited “unclassified US State Department cables” for its report.
Opposing the statehood on the part of the Council’s member states would obviate a US veto of the prospect, the cables showed.
“We…urge you not to support any potential Security Council resolution recommending the admission of ‘Palestine’ as a UN member state, should such a resolution be presented to the Security Council for a decision in the coming days and weeks,” one cable read.
The countries being railroaded into rejecting the statehood include Malta, the Council’s rotating president.
Ecuador in particular is being asked to lobby Malta and other nations, including France, to oppose UN recognition.
Another cable said, “Ecuador would not want to appear isolated (alone with the United States) in its rejection of a ‘Palestine’ resolution.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 18 2024 18:05 utc | 45

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 18 2024 18:05 utc | 45
??
See: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 18 2024 16:53 utc | 34

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 18 2024 18:12 utc | 47

Hmm…
Posted on the issue of the IRGC perhaps not following the Fatwah against nuclear weapons, but it does not show up…

Posted by: Honzo | Apr 18 2024 18:33 utc | 49

130+ countries already recognize the Palestinian state

Posted by: Exile | Apr 18 2024 19:24 utc | 51

The usual bastards
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/58/1262/522170/War-on-Gaza/War-on-Gaza/Hamas-ready-to-disband-armed-wing-and-become-a-pol.aspx

Posted by: Minaa | Apr 18 2024 19:47 utc | 53

Laguerre 25
Well,Iran isn’t “Arab world.”

Posted by: Jane | Apr 18 2024 19:58 utc | 55

If there is sufficient proof that USA approved IDF attack on rafa traded for a response to Iran…..does that consolidate the complicity charges?

Posted by: Jo | Apr 18 2024 20:06 utc | 57

52…so very very tragic..beyond words…..I wonder what happened to her….amongst so many others.

Posted by: Jo | Apr 18 2024 20:14 utc | 59

Norm Finkelstein just tweeted the following:

SAMSON AND CASSANDRA (April 16, 2024)
My Mother once told me the story of an emaciated woman in the Warsaw Ghetto who would wail from her window sill that all the Jews in the ghetto would be killed. She came to be called Cassandra, after the prophetess of doom in Greek mythology. Everyone just assumed that she was mad. My Mother speculated in retrospect that somehow she had become privy to the truth: Jews weren’t being “relocated” in the East; they were being transported to their deaths.
I have hesitated thus far to sound the alarm. But at the risk of being thought mad, it must, as an act of political responsibility, be said out loud: Israel is hurling toward the precipice and dragging the rest of the world with it.
A rational analysis of the current predicament must begin with this bedrock fact: Israel is a crazy state. Not a “bad actor.” Not a “rogue” regime. A crazy state. The full range of Israeli elite opinion, itself reflective of Israeli society at large (which overwhelmingly supports the genocidal war in Gaza; only a handful of Israelis have refused to serve), spans a mere flea’s hop:
AT ONE POLE stand “crackpot realists,” of whom sociologist C. Wright Mills wrote in the American context: “they have come to believe that there … is no other solution but war, even when they sense that war can be a solution to nothing … they still believe that ‘winning’ means something, although they never tell us what.” (1) Professor Benny Morris is cut squarely from this mold. He is urbane, educated, secular—and a crackpot. He once even “proved” that Israeli Jews couldn’t coexist with barbarian Palestinians by inter alia mustering stats on how many more road accidents Palestinians got into! (2) Morris exhorts the US to join in an attack on Iran and then rattles the threat that if Washington doesn’t rise to the occasion, Israel will go it alone by nuking Iran. He must be cognizant as he breezily proffers such counsel that an attack would not only incinerate tens of millions of Iranians—he reckons they have it coming—but also trigger a terminal retaliation. Hezbollah alone is alleged to possess 150,000 missiles. It’s a circuitous auto-da-fé. That prospect, however, doesn’t appear to faze Morris one bit.
AT THE OTHER POLE stand full-blown crazies—or those just one step short of this threshold. “The greatest danger facing Israel right now,” Noam Chomsky presciently observed already four decades ago, “is the ‘collective version’ of Samson’s revenge against the Philistines—‘Let me perish with the Philistines’—as he brought down the Temple in ruins.” The Samson clones ensconced in Jerusalem have either already gone mad—“we shall kill and bury the Gentiles around us while we ourselves shall die with them”—or pretend to “go crazy” so as to terrify enemies and allies alike into submission. Feigned lunacy, be it noted, easily transmutes into the real thing as the imaginary phantoms one repeatedly conjures seep into the psyche’s inner chambers. The upshot is that this madness, real or contrived, “renders rational calculations … questionable” as Israel “may behave in the manner of what have sometimes been called ‘crazy states.’” (3) A report in yesterday’s paper fleshes out in real time this Israeli propensity to unhinged outbursts: when one senior Israeli official counseled caution, if only in the immediate term, after Iran’s symbolic retaliation, a far-right cabinet minister demanded on the contrary that Israel go “crazy.” (4)
*
The April 14 speech at the Security Council emergency session by Israel’s representative, Gilad Erdan, brought home just how lunatic Israel has become. Presenting a master class in—if nothing else—proximate projection, Erdan was seemingly persuaded to the bone of his being that “the Islamic regime of today is … no different than Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich…. Just like the Nazi regime, the Ayatollah regime sows death and destruction everywhere…. For years, the world has watched the rise of this Shite Islamist Reich, yet just like during the rise of Nazism, the world has been silent”; that “Iran’s hegemonic ambitions of global domination must be stopped before it drives the world to a point of no return, to a regional war that can escalate to a world war”; that Iran was “barreling towards nuclear capabilities … its breakout time to produce an arsenal of
nuclear weapons is now weeks, mere weeks.” If the world didn’t rein in Iran, then Israel had no recourse except to bear this crushing burden on its own of stopping Hitler’s Third Reich: “We are being fired upon from all fronts, from every border. We are surrounded by Iran’s terror proxies…. All of the terror groups attacking Israel are tentacles of the same Shiite octopus, the Iranian octopus. So, I ask you, and be honest with yourselves, what would you do? What would you do if you were in Israel’s shoes? How would you react if your existence was threatened every single day? Israel cannot settle for inaction. We will defend our future.” Holding up his iPad to display an image of Israel allegedly intercepting an Iranian drone over al-Aqsa mosque, Erdan even claimed for Israel the mantle of the true guardian of Islam’s holy sites—“look at this video that shows how Israel intercepts Iranian drones above the Temple Mount and al-Aqsa mosque”—against the defilers of them in Teheran. The tonal register of his rhetorical delivery was as if a defiant accusation, Who dares doubt me?! “In every speech and in countless letters,” Erdan further recalled, “I rang the warning bell regarding Iran.” He got right that the bell must be sounded; but he got wrong from whence the madness emanates. Medice, cura te ipsum. If Erdan represents even half of the Israeli state and society—the fraction is arguably much higher—a catastrophe looms. True, Israeli leaders have in the past uttered certifiable lunacies. It is sufficient to recall Prime Minister Netanyahu holding up a Loony Tunes-like cartoon of the Iranian bomb at the UN and his pronouncement that it was not Hitler but the Palestinian Mufti of Jerusalem who masterminded the Final Solution. Indeed, already as far back as the 1978 Camp David negotiations, President Carter mused about Israel’s head of state, “It’s becoming clearer that the rationality of [Menachem] Begin is in doubt.” (5) All the same, a civilizational leap backwards separates the Israel that once was from what it has become. Israel’s UN representative at the time of the 1967 (“Six-Day”) war, Abba Eban, could serially prevaricate—albeit with consummate eloquence, as befitted the triple-first graduate of Cambridge—without batting an eyelash. But still, it was possible to rationally parse his propositions (as I once endeavored) to prove them wrong. (6) It is no more possible to parse Erdan’s speech than a psychopath’s rant.
*
It might be urged upon Iran to tread lightly so as not to agitate the lunatic in the room. But alas, that is not, in my opinion, a viable option. The documentary record demonstrates that, once Israel has fixed a country in its crosshairs, nothing short of abject submission will bring it to desist. If the “enemy” power resists initial provocation, Israel will keep escalating with another and another provocation until it proves politically untenable for the targeted entity to passively absorb further blows. That’s what happened when Israel targeted Egypt’s Gamel Abdel Nasser in the early 1950s. (7) (It was feared by Israeli Prime Minister Ben-Gurion that the “radical nationalist” Egyptian president might one day preside over a modern state able to check Israel’s regional ambitions.) That’s what happened when Israel targeted the Palestine Liberation Organization in Lebanon in the early 1980s. (8) (It was feared by Israeli Prime Minister Begin that the PLO’s “peace offensive”—the Palestinians supported but Israelis opposed a two-state settlement—would bring international pressure on Israel to withdraw from the West Bank.) That’s what happened in 2002 during the second intifada when Israel carried out targeted assassinations of Palestinian leaders. (9) (It was feared by Prime Minister Sharon that the Palestinians would stop armed attacks in exchange for a negotiated ceasefire.) That’s what happened in 2008 when Israel broke a ceasefire with Hamas in order to launch Operation Cast Lead. (10) (It was feared by Israeli Prime Minister Olmert that Hamas would gain international legitimacy as it moderated its political program.) The lamentable truth is that, short of national suicide, Iran cannot exercise the option of inaction: Israel will almost certainly keep ratcheting up the provocations until Teheran has no choice but to respond. It wouldn’t surprise were Israel to assassinate Ayatollah Khamenei then (wink, wink) deny it.
*
The Israeli government has ever been on the alert to exploit opportunities in order to implement its preconceived plans.
In 1989, during the Tiananmen Square massacre, Benjamin Netanyahu urged his government to exploit this media distraction by carrying out a mass expulsion of Palestinians in the West Bank.
On November 4, 2008, when the United States elected its first Black president, Prime Minister Olmert exploited this media distraction by breaking the ceasefire with Hamas.
On July 17, 2014, when a Malaysian airliner flying over Ukraine was downed, Prime Minister Netanyahu exploited this media distraction by launching the murderous ground invasion of Gaza in Operation Protective Edge. The pretexts of October 7 and now Iran’s “retaliation” present the lunatics in Jerusalem with an unprecedented opportunity to rid Israel of the triple challenge to its regional domination: by destroying Gaza, Hezbollah, and Iran; the “fog” of such an explosion would also enable Israel’s ethnic cleaning of the West Bank. If it is hoped that a sane cabal among the Israeli leadership will crystallize to stop this headlong lurch over the precipice, then it must be said that the odds are against it. Hitler’s biographer, Ian Kershaw, observed that, if it took so long for coup plans to hatch against the Fuhrer, it was because of “a deep sense of obedience to authority and service to the state,” the belief that it was “not merely wrong, but despicable and treacherous to undermine one’s own country in war,” and “even as the military disasters mounted and ultimate catastrophe beckoned, the fanatical backing for Hitler had by no means evaporated and continued, if as a minority taste, to show remarkable resilience and strength.”(11) It’s hard not to notice cognate factors at play in elite Israeli circles. On the last point, whereas Netanyahu’s critics have been writing his political obituary for years, he too keeps bouncing back notwithstanding his missteps. Why? Because Israelis see their reflection in him. Indeed, Netanyahu IS Israel: an obnoxious, narcissistic Jewish supremacist for whom only Jews reckon in God’s grand design. It must, finally, be acknowledged that not all Israeli fears are unfounded—the wish is by now widespread that Israel vanish from the map while its capacity has diminished to terrorize its neighbors into submission. But, for the most part, it is a corner that Israel has boxed itself into. Indeed, before October 7 Hamas had gestured toward a two-state settlement while Iran consistently voted with the UN General Assembly majority in support of the two-state consensus. Israel rebuffed it.
Will Prime Minister Netanyahu resist the irresistible temptation to cut the Gordian regional knot or, like Samson, will he bring down the Temple—the rest of us—with him? Cassandra would probably say: All bets are off!
References
1. Mills, Causes of World War III.
2. Morris, One State, Two States.
3. Chomsky, Fateful Triangle. Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh later elaborated on Chomsky’s insights in The Samson Option.
4. New York Times, April 15, 2024.
5. Carter, White House Diary.
6. Finkelstein, Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict.
7. Benny Morris, Border Wars.
8. Robert Fisk, Pity the Nation.
9. Norman Finkelstein, Beyond Chutzpah.
10. Norman Finkelstein, Gaza.
11. Kershaw, Hitler, 1936-1945: Nemesis.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 18 2024 20:41 utc | 61

The Cradle
BREAKING: IRGC says ‘nuclear doctrine’ can change in response to Israeli attack
“If the Zionist regime wants to take action against our nuclear centers and facilities, it will face our reaction … [on its] nuclear centers,” the senior commander said. “It is possible and conceivable to revise the nuclear doctrine and policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran and to deviate from the considerations announced in the past,” Talab emphasized.
He also reminded Tel Aviv that its nuclear facilities “are identified and the necessary information about all the targets are at our disposal,” adding that the IRGC has “their hand on the trigger to fire powerful missiles to destroy specified targets.”

Posted by: ld | Apr 18 2024 21:39 utc | 63

I see the US vetoed recognizing Palestine as a state. Time for Russia China and RoW to stop recognizing the UNSC.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 18 2024 22:01 utc | 65

Re: Norm Finkelstein

“We are being fired upon from all fronts, from every border. We are surrounded by Iran’s terror proxies…. All of the terror groups attacking Israel are tentacles of the same Shiite octopus, the Iranian octopus.”
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 18 2024 20:41 utc | 61

For the last 12 years Iran and her proxies have mainly been fighting Al-Qaeda and ISIS and other US-supported “moderate rebels”, while Israel has been supporting these same rebels as well as Hamas.
(At the beginning of the Syrian Civil War the rebels received critical support from Hamas, especially in tunnel-building technology. Israel has a long history of supporting Hamas at the expense of the Palestinian Authority.)

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 18 2024 22:17 utc | 67

As a note to my earlier post……the IDF had on hand a deliverable tactical nuclear weapon at the time of 1973 war and threatened to use it as Egyptian armored brigades penetrated the Sinai and were headed toward the border of occupied Palestine………
Before that happened General Ariel Sharon’s IDF armored strike force crossed the Suez south of the Egyptian incursion and headed for Cairo….triggering a Russian threat to send airborne troops to aid the Egyptian defense of the capital…….
It was during that time that the IDF deliberately attacked and disabled the USN intell gathering ship, the USS Liberty, killing and wounding dozens of USN sailors and support staff. The IDF never admitted guilt, nor provided adequate compensation to the families of the wounded and the dead. The USS Liberty was clearly identified as a USN vessel, was flying the colors, and in radio commo on the emergency channels. The IDF clearly wanted to blind the vessel so it could use the nuclear option without interference, if necessary.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 18 2024 22:26 utc | 69

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240418/us-shows-true-attitude-to-palestinians-by-casting-veto-on-states-membership-in-un—russian-envoy-1118002539.html

Posted by: Surferket | Apr 18 2024 22:34 utc | 71

“This tells a humiliating story of US isolation in the UN….” T michaelj72 | Apr 18 2024 20:04 utc@56
It’s worse than isolation, which can be splendid.
This is the list of losers who joined with the US in condemning Iran
“Albania, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Cyprus, Czechia, Denmark, Ecuador, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Netherlands, New Zealand, North Macedonia, Norway, Federated States of Micronesia, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Poland, Portugal, the Republic of Korea, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Ukraine, and the United Kingdom.”
That list should be entered for a Poetry Award. Read it aloud. Read every third name out. Frame it as an epitaph to Empire- the pallbearers carrying the coffin.
Put it on a T Shirt.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 18 2024 22:45 utc | 73

The Cradle says Iran hit the officers club and swimming pool on the Nevitim Base strike. Shows Iran does have a “Dirty Harry” sense of humor.
Iran built a mock up of the Nevitim base out in their desert, to practice their rocket attacks on.
I doubt it was a random hit.
Last 2 paragraphs.
https://thecradle.co/articles/israeli-air-defenses-are-not-untouchable
Posted by: golddigger | Apr 18 2024 16:35 utc | 31
IIRC while waiting for the Iranians to attack the Israelis were interfering with the GPS system, TV reporters in Israel were reporting their phones showing them as being on Cairo or Amman.
Apparently the Iranians were able to overcome this in order to hit Nevatim and its runways so accurately from so far away.
I wonder how they were able to overcome the Israelis’ jamming. Any ideas?

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 18 2024 23:03 utc | 75

Tom_Q_Collins 61
Stark but realistic description of the majority of Israeli society’s state of mind, top to bottom.
Thanks for bring this to the bar’s attention.

Posted by: Memory Man | Apr 18 2024 23:14 utc | 77

@74 Ballistic is assumed Glonass (Russian eq. to GPS).

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 18 2024 23:35 utc | 79

Roberto’s is just another round of the standard hasbara narrative that the world or Arab world has lost interest in the fate of the Palestinians, or is ready to sacrifice them for more important issues.
Making a success of this narrative is central to the Zionist future. They are not going to let it drop. Which is why these strange new commenters show up every day.
Posted by: laguerre | Apr 18 2024 16:00 utc | 25
Here in the US all that is being reported on in the news is Israeli threats of retaliation and demands for sanctions on Iran, the renewed exploitation of Israeli and Jewish victimhood and the flooding in Dubai. Literally not a single story in the US media about Gaza for the past two days.
That is why we need to overcome this censorship by redoubling our effort posting news about Gaza on social media.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 18 2024 23:39 utc | 81

@Delhi 81
From the text you quoted that would as easily be by centrally decalibrating the GPS signal .
Jamming (and spoofing) are different methods that could create the same effect or deny location access of GPS and satellite positioning systems other than GPS, but missiles I think would have some defence from those (because it is obviously a vector to neutralise them).
Phones and civilian navigation etc. are not protected from any of those methods.
Maybe someone more knowledgeable will explain what is or isn’t possible by the various means with regard to missiles, because that is about all I know.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 19 2024 0:12 utc | 83

Norman Finkelstein has posted what he calls a “Cassandra” warning on Xitter today.
Considering his expertise, his warning makes me worry not just for Gaza, but for the world.
It’s worth a read but ominous:
SAMSON AND CASSANDRA (April 16, 2024)
…
“I have hesitated thus far to sound the alarm. But at the risk of being thought mad, it must, as an act of political responsibility, be said out loud: Israel is hurling toward the precipice and dragging the rest of the world with it.
A rational analysis of the current predicament must begin with this bedrock fact: Israel is a crazy state. Not a “bad actor.” Not a “rogue” regime. A crazy state. The full range of Israeli elite opinion, itself reflective of Israeli society at large (which overwhelmingly supports the genocidal war in Gaza; only a handful of Israelis have refused to serve), spans a mere flea’s hop:”
…
Will Prime Minister Netanyahu resist the irresistible temptation to cut the Gordian regional knot or, like Samson, will he bring down the Temple—the rest of us—with him? Cassandra would probably say: All bets are off!”

Posted by: Laura Roslin | Apr 19 2024 0:17 utc | 85

“Out of 91 American veto votes, the United States used its veto power 36 times against resolutions related to the Palestinian issue in the UN Security Council, representing approximately 40% of its veto vote since 1946.”
“Channel 12 Hebrew:
Right-wing settler associations have begun preparing for the storming of Al-Aqsa Mosque next week and have allocated material rewards for those who slaughter sacrifices in Al-Aqsa’s courtyards.”
https://t.me/youseffares19/30116

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 19 2024 0:42 utc | 87

Possibly false or other but site is 9/10 accurate, just now :
Iranian sources: Three huge explosions were heard in Isfahan
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Would not post the detail normally without certainty, but given the importance …

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 19 2024 0:54 utc | 89

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 19 2024 0:54 utc | 88
RE: Attack on Isfahan
This would appear to corroborate (allegedly a drone strike):
https://twitter.com/FazelHawramy/status/1619562430207774722
Now, there hasn’t appeared to be a response ‘within seconds’ by Iran AFAIK.

Posted by: Dumbo | Apr 19 2024 1:10 utc | 91

Posted by: misnomer | Apr 19 2024 1:11 utc | 91
They are indeed with Bibi in the bunker, all outputting bullshit.
Isafahan — it might be for real:
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-797866

Posted by: Dumbo | Apr 19 2024 1:16 utc | 93

“Iranian commander warns Tehran could review its ‘nuclear doctrine’ amid Israeli threats”
Posted by: Loyal | Apr 18 2024 15:22 utc | 12
“Bad move to telegraph like that.
I hope Iran’s generals have discreetly chosen to break the nuclear fatwa or have even more terrifying weapons in store.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 18 2024 15:32 utc | 17
Arch , they ‘wouldn’t have telegraphed that’ unless they already had the bomb-that’s my take.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 19 2024 1:18 utc | 95

@Dumbo 95
Mark2 was right (in a previous thread comment) , I just dwelled on what he said at the time and understood without adding.
Apology for the AR15 link above… it isn’t peaceful but info is info .
Only question is if space will be allowed for some kind of diplomatic intervention.
Sets the hair on end because we have no idea how pre-emptive the equation is, nor in middle-east or worldwide.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 19 2024 1:34 utc | 97

Israel has retaliated on Iran nuclear plants in Natanz according to Zero Hedge.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 19 2024 1:47 utc | 99