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April 14, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-110
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Delhiliterally@90….last night was the first night in six months were Gaza was not being bombed. Hamas and the local resistance movements earned the night off. I heard the Gaza babushkas slept in this morning….oh wait, damn, wrong thread….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 14 2024 23:12 utc | 101 Neither me nor my wife was there today in our local park, but I have heard only my family side of the story – well our eldest grandchild (8) vs big Bully in his class (8) Posted by: tonyopmoc | Apr 14 2024 23:25 utc | 102 they will definitely use their proxies to harm Iran (ISIS-K and other “sunni muslims” which for some reason fight their own brothers when it counts). Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 14 2024 23:26 utc | 103 13 April headline “Iran’s Retaliation Delay Keeps Pressure On U.S. And Israel”. Posted by: crimson | Apr 14 2024 23:50 utc | 104 Posted by: librul | Apr 14 2024 14:27 utc | 11 Posted by: Jane | Apr 15 2024 0:01 utc | 105 I always try and see it from a Child’s point of view…I know they all really like The Girl (8) in their class at school…They have not seen her over the Easter holidays and she is due back at school tomorrow… Posted by: tonyopmoc | Apr 15 2024 0:10 utc | 106 Let’s see if I have this right: Posted by: JAB | Apr 15 2024 0:15 utc | 107 Posted by: tonyopmoc | Apr 14 2024 23:25 utc | 102 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 15 2024 0:19 utc | 108 My wife was also completely useless getting through the e-passport gates…whilst they recognised me straight away.. Posted by: tonyopmoc | Apr 15 2024 0:20 utc | 109 Posted by: misnomer | Apr 14 2024 20:53 utc | 73 Posted by: snake | Apr 15 2024 0:23 utc | 110 Posted by: JAB | Apr 15 2024 0:15 utc | 107 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 15 2024 0:24 utc | 111 Posted by: misnomer | Apr 14 2024 20:53 utc | 73 Posted by: snake | Apr 15 2024 0:25 utc | 112 Posted by: crimson | Apr 14 2024 23:50 utc | 104 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 15 2024 0:26 utc | 113 Had Iran fired 240 more ballistic missiles and 100 more drones and cruise missiles, Israel, US bases and UK planes would have run out of interceptor missiles. Posted by: Jason | Apr 15 2024 0:31 utc | 114 This looks like losing to me. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 15 2024 0:36 utc | 115 Posted by: JamesBond | Apr 14 2024 23:00 utc | 98 Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 15 2024 0:38 utc | 116 Posted by: Jason | Apr 15 2024 0:31 utc | 114 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 15 2024 0:39 utc | 117 Great interview by Michael Hudson on Israel with transcription. Posted by: Jane | Apr 15 2024 0:40 utc | 118 Unless some power other than an a preoccupied Super Power steps up to do God knows what, where, how, when….like really, how? Posted by: Lydia | Apr 15 2024 0:42 utc | 119 My Mum’s Family travelled all over the World, even more than my Dad’s. I obviously thought – this just what my Family Do.. Posted by: tonyopmoc | Apr 15 2024 1:02 utc | 120 Got a text from trump campaign asking if i am going to vote Trump; Yes or No. Responded back with the question, ‘are you going to support Israel’s genocide of Palestine?’ A few minutes later got a response back, ‘successfully unsubscribed’. There is of course the possibility that it was not the Trump campaign, but the opposition, ie Biden’s losers. Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Apr 15 2024 1:16 utc | 121 Posted by: tonyopmoc | Apr 15 2024 1:02 utc | 120 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 15 2024 1:32 utc | 122 Posted by: Lydia | Apr 15 2024 0:42 utc | 119 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 15 2024 1:34 utc | 123 Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Apr 15 2024 1:16 utc | 121 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 15 2024 1:45 utc | 124 According to Larry Johnson, 2 air bases, Air Force Intelligence HQ in Tel Aviv and a top secret spy base were hit. Ouch! Posted by: Suresh | Apr 15 2024 1:52 utc | 125
Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 14 2024 17:26 utc | 48
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 14 2024 17:59 utc | 55
Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 14 2024 19:24 utc | 65
Posted by: JamesBond | Apr 14 2024 23:00 utc | 98 Posted by: frkorz | Apr 15 2024 2:26 utc | 126 Ukrainian maths is being used with Israel’s air defence reports. Video seems to debunk the numbers. How cucked is Jordan, prepared to have their own citizens die from debris to protect the zionist entity Posted by: Hankster | Apr 15 2024 2:45 utc | 127 David Hearst of Middle East Eye has been fighting, courageously, for Palestine for decades now. Posted by: bevin | Apr 15 2024 2:48 utc | 128 The way I read this is that Posted by: crimson | Apr 15 2024 3:06 utc | 129 Yemen’s ‘uninhibited’ attacks push French warship to exit Red Sea Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 15 2024 3:19 utc | 130 Does Blue and White + Brown really result in crimson? Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Apr 15 2024 3:25 utc | 131 If Oct 7 was a game changer for Hamas, yesterday’s attack of Occupied Palestine by Iran is another one. Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 15 2024 4:18 utc | 132 This looks like a big Iranian victory when viewed through an asymmetrical lens, forget the billion or so burned up in AD, the problem is AD is hard to come by at any price at the moment for the West. Posted by: silverdog | Apr 15 2024 4:40 utc | 133 For the West, what better that to have religious nut job Jews in Israel create chaos in the Middle East to serve Imperialism. Israel is another proxy. Posted by: damn | Apr 15 2024 4:57 utc | 134 Posted by: JamesBond | Apr 14 2024 23:00 utc | 98 Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Apr 15 2024 5:03 utc | 135 @the pessimist, Posted by: rosross | Apr 15 2024 5:26 utc | 136 Re: French Frigate depleting its munitions after a handful of engagements: Posted by: Exile | Apr 15 2024 5:50 utc | 137 bevin 128 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 15 2024 5:59 utc | 138 ZH has a posting up with the title Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 15 2024 6:00 utc | 139 From Simplicius [[[ The U.S. scrambled a large coalition to shoot the threats down, which included the U.S. itself, UK flying from Cyprus, France, and, controversially, Jordan which allowed them all to also use its airspace and even partook in the shoot downs. ]]] Posted by: Cumino | Apr 15 2024 7:05 utc | 140 Posted by: Matthew | Apr 14 2024 22:46 utc | 96
Thanks for this Matthew. Posted by: ChasMark | Apr 15 2024 7:15 utc | 141 The main problem with measured Iranian action is that it works better with sane and rational actors. Posted by: SOS | Apr 15 2024 7:30 utc | 142 Fadi Kuran said this about the strategic benefits of Iran’s strike on Israel: Posted by: Laura Roslin | Apr 15 2024 7:32 utc | 143 Israel seems shocked 😲 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 15 2024 7:33 utc | 144 Posted by: Cumino | Apr 15 2024 7:05 utc | 140 Posted by: JAB | Apr 15 2024 7:41 utc | 145 We need more of this, there is heaps of space in Texas for them: Posted by: Menz | Apr 15 2024 7:50 utc | 146 Bestist buddies… Posted by: Menz | Apr 15 2024 7:53 utc | 147 143 Laura Roslin. Thank you for that link to Fadi Quran on Twitter. Further on in that quote, he says “Moreover, with the threat of a regional war that neither the US nor the Arab regimes want feeling nearer, it’s likely their pressure on Israel to back down will increase, making a ceasefire more feasible.” I have wondered if a there is a non-war scenario resulting from Iran’s action that would benefit the Palestinians. COMBATE |🇵🇷 Posted by: Menz | Apr 15 2024 7:56 utc | 149 Younis Tirawi | يونس Posted by: Menz | Apr 15 2024 7:57 utc | 150 We need more of this, there is heaps of space in Texas for them: Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 15 2024 8:01 utc | 151 Posted by: Honzo | Apr 14 2024 22:05 utc | 91 Posted by: Suresh | Apr 15 2024 8:37 utc | 152 JAB 148 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 15 2024 9:07 utc | 153 Weak sauce from Iran. They have only strengthened the feeling of invincibility in the West. Israel now has a free hand in striking within Iran. Any target they like is fair. Posted by: alek_a | Apr 15 2024 9:27 utc | 154 Iran gave notice to the USA when they were going to attack Israel and the flight paths. They immediately gave it to Israel, so they knew what was going to happen hours the drones launched. It cost Israel around $1.3 billion in interceptor missiles and you don’t run down to Walmart to renew your stock. Drone are cheap and easy to make in comparison. Posted by: Mr. Ed | Apr 15 2024 9:32 utc | 155 JAB 148 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 15 2024 9:38 utc | 156 Mr Ed 155 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 15 2024 9:51 utc | 158 Who prefers a Nation of boiled frogs rather than pussy cats ( Domesticated Lie- ons ? Ones that give their hosts Toxoplasma Gondii . A parasite that lives in snails ( that carry their house ) , that get eaten by mice and rats … then infect cats . Onwards into the human condition . Posted by: Paleologos | Apr 15 2024 9:57 utc | 159 a newspaper on the bus today the front cover roared… Posted by: gordan | Apr 15 2024 10:00 utc | 160
Saw that and tried to source it, didn’t find anything from today but did find these remarks to today.
Guess perhaps the call for new elections is implied, or there were other remarks not picked up in that article? Posted by: knighthawk | Apr 15 2024 10:22 utc | 161 terror from the sky Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 15 2024 10:22 utc | 162 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government “have become an existential threat to Israel,” Opposition Leader Yair Lapid declares, accusing them of destroying Israeli deterrence. Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 15 2024 10:34 utc | 163 Telling the USA and Israel in advance of the attack might actually have increased it’s economic costs to Israel and it’s defenders … Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 15 2024 10:34 utc | 164 On Friday, April 12th, the Palestine congress in Berlin was stopped without any legal basis. The police informed the organisers that the Ministry of the Interior has imposed a ban on political activity in Germany against the participants author Salman Abu Sittah, Dr. Ghassan Abu Sittah and DiEM25 co-founder Yanis Varoufakis (also chairman of MERA25 Greece). Under this ban, they are not allowed to enter the country or even appear via video at conferences or demonstrations. Posted by: Engineer-John | Apr 15 2024 10:38 utc | 165 Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 15 2024 10:34 utc | 163 Posted by: knighthawk | Apr 15 2024 10:49 utc | 166 Posted by: Engineer-John | Apr 15 2024 10:38 utc | 165
Early Friday morning, hundreds of black-clad Hate Police descended on the congress location. Reinforcements were called in from throughout the nation. Metal barricades were erected on the sidewalks. Hate Police stood guard at the entrance. The German media warned the public that a potential “Hate-Speech” attack was now imminent. Berliners were advised to shelter in place, switch off their phones and any other audio-receptive communication devices, and wad up little pieces of toilet paper and ram them deep into their ear canals to prevent any possible exposure to the “hate.” Sure enough, minutes into the congress, the anticipated “Hate-Speech” attack was launched! A Palestinian activist — Salman Abu Sitta — who had written an article that allegedly “expressed understanding of Hamas,” and thus had already been placed on the official German “No-Speak” list, started speaking to the congress on Zoom or whatever. Or … it isn’t quite clear whether he actually started speaking. According to a Hate Police spokesperson, they raided the congress because “there [was] a risk of a speaker being put on the screen who in the past made anti-Semitic and violence-glorifying remarks.” Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 15 2024 10:54 utc | 167 The Iranians insist their ballistic missiles were hypersonic: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 15 2024 11:14 utc | 168 In an interview with Sky News Sunday, Israeli President Isaac Herzog said Israel is “considering all options” after Iran launched attack drones Saturday night, describing the event as a “declaration of war.” Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 15 2024 11:23 utc | 169 “considering all options” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 15 2024 11:31 utc | 170 In an interview with Sky News Sunday, Israeli President Isaac Herzog said Israel is “considering all options” after Iran launched attack drones Saturday night, describing the event as a “declaration of war.” Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 15 2024 11:32 utc | 171 Richard Medhurst interviews Asad Abukhalil on Gaza, Hezbollah and the Decline of Zionism. A must watch to understanding some historical and present Political Middle East. Posted by: Menz | Apr 15 2024 11:32 utc | 172 https://t.me/myLordBebo/28103 Posted by: Hankster | Apr 15 2024 11:35 utc | 173 asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل Posted by: Menz | Apr 15 2024 11:41 utc | 174 Posted by: crimson | Apr 14 2024 23:50 utc | 104 I only hope that he is wrong when he says: No one in the MENA has any interest in helping the Palestinians. Killing them all is good for the other MENA countries. Iran and Israel is like a boxing match, where one side does 99 feints and a single uppercut that knocks the other guy out. Posted by: Passerby | Apr 15 2024 12:27 utc | 177 Posted by: Menz | Apr 15 2024 11:41 utc | 174 Posted by: knighthawk | Apr 15 2024 12:30 utc | 178 Palestine will swallow up the Zionist project. Posted by: Zico | Apr 15 2024 12:35 utc | 179 JAB 148 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 15 2024 12:50 utc | 180 One option for the Izzies: put their compromised Manchurian DC President balls in a blackmail vice. No telling what will be coming out of the woodwork in the States….. If you really want to fight or deter this enemy, you better have the goods. Jews rule half of the world, banking and tech included maybe more, what is Iran thinking to achieve here? Posted by: vargas | Apr 15 2024 12:57 utc | 182 Judge Nap and Alistair Crooke judge had a great discussion that ended moments ago. A must see. Posted by: Morongobill | Apr 15 2024 12:58 utc | 183 Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 15 2024 12:21 utc | 175 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 15 2024 12:59 utc | 184 I found you a Socialist, former leader of the opposition Labor Party who possibly exemplifies the Softer side of Judaism. The Labor Party supports a two state solutiin for Palestinians. It detests apartheid. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 15 2024 13:21 utc | 185 We need more of this, there is heaps of space in Texas for them: Posted by: malenkov | Apr 15 2024 13:23 utc | 186 The Iranian combined drone, cruise and ballistic missile strikes really had a devastating impact on the Israeli nation, both economically, socially and militarily. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 15 2024 13:35 utc | 187 A rat fleeing a sinking ship is still a rat. Posted by: Archetypex | Apr 15 2024 13:38 utc | 188 @psychohistorian 139 Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Apr 15 2024 13:39 utc | 189 Lastly, one has to wonder how much of scarce AA missile ordinance was burned up by the IDF, US, and UK in response to the over 300 drone, cruise and missile attacks on the IDF bases in the Dimona region and Tel Aviv areas. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 15 2024 13:52 utc | 190 @ Arch Bungle 168 Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Apr 15 2024 13:56 utc | 191 The finest part is the kokhol don’t even cried. Some billions in AD thrown over some desert, multiple countries to defend the zionists , F15, 16 ,18 ,22 ,35 … and nothing for poor 404 ? Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 15 2024 13:57 utc | 192 But if the logic of Capitalism actually only wants more war, its time for all of us to decide to get rid of it. Now. Posted by: Honzo | Apr 15 2024 14:32 utc | 193 I only hope that he is wrong when he says: No one in the MENA has any interest in helping the Palestinians. Killing them all is good for the other MENA countries. Posted by: Honzo | Apr 15 2024 14:41 utc | 194 I sometimes wonder if the office he broadcasts from isn’t his room in a loony bin somewhere. Posted by: Honzo | Apr 15 2024 14:44 utc | 195 I look forward to the day when to be anti palistinian is as much a taboo as being antisemite seems to be these past years. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 15 2024 14:54 utc | 196 @196, 197 198 and 199 Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 15 2024 17:10 utc | 197 Another facet of Israeli genocide in Gaza, the Zionists are utter monsters. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 15 2024 17:52 utc | 198
George 197 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 15 2024 20:11 utc | 200 |
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