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April 10, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-107
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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@99 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 11 2024 20:56 utc | 101 Iran simply waiting for Friday after stock market close. Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 11 2024 21:26 utc | 102 fyi, Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 11 2024 21:29 utc | 103 All Canadians should consider signing this petition. Posted by: bevin | Apr 11 2024 21:30 utc | 104 Iran has endangered itself by delaying retaliation, the short attention span media will spin any Iranian response as an attack rather than retaliation. The neocons perceive restraint as weakness. Iran should have responded in kind immediately by striking an Israeli embassy. The media would have to link the two events. Iran should be prepared to retaliate swiftly next time Israel attacks. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 11 2024 21:43 utc | 105 Operation genocide protect a complete failure Posted by: Hankster | Apr 11 2024 22:01 utc | 106 Saying What Can’t Be Said: Israel Has Been Defeated – a Total Defeat – Israel News – Haaretz.com Posted by: MrH | Apr 11 2024 22:23 utc | 107 @Posted by: MrH | Apr 11 2024 22:23 utc | 108 Posted by: librul | Apr 11 2024 22:49 utc | 108 My comment at @102 was meant for Vargas. Sorry, typed too fast. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 11 2024 23:02 utc | 109 He says that after every attack. Including the ones without a individual response one can point to as a retaliation. Which is probably the point. Posted by: smuks | Apr 11 2024 23:08 utc | 110 @smuks 73 Posted by: pxx | Apr 11 2024 23:13 utc | 111 Pretty good article by Owen Jones, indeed a fitting summation (diagnosis) of sorts to the present of Western decline: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/11/blood-chaos-decline-west-capitalism-gaza-moral-collapse-us Posted by: Ludo | Apr 11 2024 23:16 utc | 112 Ghost of Zanon | Apr 11 2024 17:04 utc | 84 Posted by: smuks | Apr 11 2024 23:23 utc | 113
@Posted by: Another thing | Apr 11 2024 18:28 utc | 88 Posted by: librul | Apr 11 2024 23:29 utc | 114 pxx | Apr 11 2024 23:13 utc | 112 Posted by: smuks | Apr 11 2024 23:39 utc | 115 The US dangles Yemen bait, but Ansarallah doesn’t bite
Cradle today Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 11 2024 23:50 utc | 116 Willow @ 97 Posted by: Suresh | Apr 11 2024 23:58 utc | 117 Would US/UK be willing to throw their ‘ally’ under the bus, once he’s no longer needed? Sure. Posted by: Honzo | Apr 12 2024 0:17 utc | 118 RE: . Only the Ansar Allah guys have the balls to say, “fuck markets!” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 12 2024 0:28 utc | 119 Looking at MSM today, one gets the impression that the death of OJ Simpson, and the death a Sumo-Champion, and other unimportant events are wonderful opportunities to divert attention from Gaza (and from Ukraine as well). Posted by: fanto | Apr 12 2024 0:43 utc | 120 meanwhile back at the ranch. Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 12 2024 1:33 utc | 122 @MrH & librul #108, 109 Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 12 2024 1:52 utc | 123 michaelj72 | Apr 12 2024 1:33 utc | 124 … Posted by: Cynic | Apr 12 2024 2:50 utc | 124 Scott Ritter making a lot of scary sense: Posted by: PJB | Apr 12 2024 2:58 utc | 125 Hankster, Posted by: Exile | Apr 12 2024 3:14 utc | 126 This long essay, an edited version of a lecture given by Andreas Malm in Beirut on April 4, 2024, was worth the reading time imo. Prof Malm is a Swedish academic and historical materialist.
Posted by: suzan | Apr 12 2024 4:28 utc | 127 Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 12 2024 1:33 utc | 124 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 12 2024 5:21 utc | 128 01:40 Violent clashes taking place between resistance fighetrs and IOF in Gaza’s Nuseirat amid intense Israeli strikes Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 12 2024 5:34 utc | 129 Apparently the NATO crowd were aware of the bombing of the Iranian Embassy before it happened.
Note that at the present an US refuelling aircraft is over Israel continuously supplying (unseen on common radar) military fighters. I had noticed all that. No doubt Iran will have its own plans but my thought is Iran’s best move is to enhance the US economic implosion. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2024 6:17 utc | 131 Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2024 6:17 utc | 133 Stonebird | Apr 12 2024 7:43 utc | 134 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2024 7:59 utc | 133 Stonebird Just realized my I had not addressed my initial reply to you so glad you picked up on it. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2024 8:04 utc | 134 Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2024 7:59 utc | 135 Stonebird | Apr 12 2024 8:10 utc | 137 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2024 8:24 utc | 136 Posted by: MrH | Apr 11 2024 22:23 utc |
Reposted at Information Clearing House Posted by: scanalyse | Apr 12 2024 8:49 utc | 137 One thing surely going down with MI6 is the realization that their games can’t be backed with military power any more. Posted by: SOS | Apr 12 2024 9:54 utc | 138 Can someone please post the summary 11/12.April SITREP from telegram ? Posted by: Exile | Apr 12 2024 10:31 utc | 139 Re: Potential for AmeriKKKa to respond to an Iranian strike on Jewrael. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 12 2024 10:57 utc | 140 Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 12 2024 10:57 utc | 140 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2024 11:22 utc | 141 @Posted by: scanalyse | Apr 12 2024 8:49 utc | 137
Posted by: librul | Apr 12 2024 12:13 utc | 142 https://archive.ph/aHktF Posted by: malenkov | Apr 12 2024 12:49 utc | 143 If you ask me, this is about finance just as much as foreign policy. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 12 2024 13:12 utc | 144 If you ask me, this is about finance just as much as foreign policy. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 12 2024 13:12 utc | 145 Irish taoiseach and Spanish PM to discuss Palestine nation state plan Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 12 2024 13:43 utc | 146 Honzo | Apr 12 2024 0:17 utc | 118 Posted by: smuks | Apr 12 2024 14:39 utc | 147 How will Iran retaliate? It already is. Lucas Leiroz has a point…
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/04/12/israel-in-despair-over-possible-iranian-retaliation/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 12 2024 15:22 utc | 148 RE: Alarms sounding in Israel Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 12 2024 15:57 utc | 150 There is a very interesting conversation between Pepe Escobar and Kevork Almassian of Syriana channel. It is wide ranging but it’s all worth the time. It’s the best I’ve seen in over 2 weeks. Save yourself some time; the video really starts at 6:00. I never watched Syriana before, but Kevork Almassian is very knowledgeable and a peer to Pepe, which made it enjoyable to watch. Posted by: JessDTruth | Apr 12 2024 16:03 utc | 151 When words fail. Posted by: JAB | Apr 12 2024 16:27 utc | 152 How will Iran retaliate? It already is. Lucas Leiroz has a point… Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 12 2024 16:31 utc | 153 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 12 2024 15:57 utc | 150 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 12 2024 16:32 utc | 154 Why would Iran send troops to Ukraine?? Russia has plenty of troops and has no need of any more. That would be a total waste. Posted by: Comandante | Apr 12 2024 16:36 utc | 155 @Commandante: Posted by: ChrisFromGA | Apr 12 2024 16:53 utc | 156 Whelp, there goes any hope of Iranians response to Israel’s lunacy. America pledges to defend Israel if Iran attacks. Posted by: bored | Apr 12 2024 17:04 utc | 157 Reportedly 50 rockets shot into Israel from southern Lebanon. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 12 2024 17:32 utc | 158 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 12 2024 10:57 utc | 140 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 12 2024 17:35 utc | 160 Initially I replied to comment #16 by bevin. My reply is comment #53. Then Giyane felt compelled to reply to my remark with comment #59.
The turks in Kazakhstan showed their reverence for their father the devil when they in 1998, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, renamed their capital city to Astana which is an anagram of “satana”. They changed it temporarily to “Nur Sultan” when the ridiculousness of their anagram logic got into public awareness, but recently there have been reports that they are changing it back again to “Astana”.
…and this regardless of what the final kill-count in Gaza at the Al Mayadeen English website ends up to be after this episode of Babylonian scape-goat slaughtering is over.
…he means this very bondage, the bondage of Babylon, from which He freed us. But so many refuse to accept it, or are prevented by deceitful leaders and ideologies, or the lusts of this world. Posted by: George | Apr 12 2024 17:52 utc | 161 Much of the “Iranian retaliation” hype extends from the western news media and in Israel itself. It continues to be reasonable to assume the Iranians are well aware Israel desires an Iranian attack. Posted by: jayc | Apr 12 2024 18:03 utc | 162 One hour ago … Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 12 2024 18:53 utc | 163 Thank you B for your work and time. @bungling @86 Posted by: stranger | Apr 12 2024 19:21 utc | 165 Whelp, there goes any hope of Iranians response to Israel’s lunacy. America pledges to defend Israel if Iran attacks. Posted by: Chas | Apr 12 2024 20:26 utc | 166 Judging by the reports on all the US military assets being moved into position in the ME, it is clear that Iran missed it’s window for a response. Their best bet is to sit tight and not give the reaction that is being provoked. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 12 2024 20:51 utc | 167 Worth noting that she met with the head of the PBoC – in charge of China’s UST holdings. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 12 2024 20:58 utc | 168 Why do I have the idea that the rest of the world is watching “israel” and ju.s.a. finally swirling the drain and have therefore decided against needlessly ruining their struggling economies by engaging in armed conflicts with either? Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Apr 12 2024 21:07 utc | 169 Whelp, there goes any hope of Iranians response to Israel’s lunacy. America pledges to defend Israel if Iran attacks. Posted by: smuks | Apr 12 2024 21:10 utc | 170 Most humorous bumper sticker I’ve seen: Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Apr 12 2024 21:15 utc | 171 Waiting for Godot (or not): The suspense is killing – I hope it lasts. Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 12 2024 21:41 utc | 172 Fantastic article. Geopolitical strategies: same as it ever was. Posted by: JAB | Apr 12 2024 23:54 utc | 173 (Of course, Iran could really piss the West off by not retaliating. The MSM/ Neocons are salivating and falling over themselves for that ‘imminent Iranian attack’ – what if there is none? Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 13 2024 0:43 utc | 174 RE: Posted by: smuks | Apr 12 2024 21:10 utc | 170 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 13 2024 1:02 utc | 175 Waiting until Wednesday makes as much sense as anything else suggested.
Acerbic sarcasm reports that it’s unclear whether the US only has zero intelligence or if they are merely braindead 😛 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 13 2024 1:12 utc | 176 The US dangles Yemen bait, but Ansarallah doesn’t bite Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 13 2024 1:14 utc | 177 The US dangles Yemen bait, but Ansarallah doesn’t bite Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 13 2024 1:15 utc | 178 @ Delhiliterally | Apr 13 2024 1:15 utc | 178 Posted by: malenkov | Apr 13 2024 1:32 utc | 179 Excellent observations (as yours characteristically are); I’d just add that I’m sure that, rapprochements notwithstanding, the Houthis are probably too wise to trust the Saudis implicitly. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 13 2024 2:05 utc | 180 Excellent observations (as yours characteristically are); I’d just add that I’m sure that, rapprochements notwithstanding, the Houthis are probably too wise to trust the Saudis implicitly. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 13 2024 2:05 utc | 181 ZH has a posting up with the title
Hollywood producers are having orgasms over the blockbuster potential here…./s Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 13 2024 2:46 utc | 182 I’ve been scanning Russian and Chinese media all day, barely a word in there of “Iran imminent attack”… Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 13 2024 3:41 utc | 183 RE: “Or declare Ukraine a terrorist state first and then send troops. That would really make Israeli masters blow a head gasket.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 13 2024 4:01 utc | 184 No national Armies are going to invade Israel for fear of nuclear/ non-nuclear reprisals . Posted by: Giyane | Apr 13 2024 5:38 utc | 185 If the goal is to exhaust (bankrupt) the War Party ; then getting them to run around hysterically preparing for “a massive onslaught by those crazy mullahs “ is a good tactic. Posted by: Exile | Apr 13 2024 6:46 utc | 186 The pro-peace and reconciliation speech by (ex-Greek Finance Minister) Yanis Varoufakis on Palestine that German police shut down Posted by: Exile | Apr 13 2024 7:39 utc | 187 Runny Sunny Burger 176 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 13 2024 10:49 utc | 188 Retaliation? Posted by: johnf | Apr 13 2024 11:36 utc | 189 The vessel was identified as the Portugal-flagged MSC Aries, which reportedly departed from a port in the United Arab Emirates en route to India. It is associated with the London-based Zodiac Maritime, a part of the Zodiac Group run by Israeli billionaire Eyal Ofer and his family. Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 13 2024 11:58 utc | 190 There is a very interesting conversation between Pepe Escobar and Kevork Almassian of Syriana channel. It is wide ranging but it’s all worth the time. It’s the best I’ve seen in over 2 weeks. Save yourself some time; the video really starts at 6:00. I never watched Syriana before, but Kevork Almassian is very knowledgeable and a peer to Pepe, which made it enjoyable to watch. Posted by: Ново З | Apr 13 2024 12:04 utc | 191 Brilliant move by Iran. While it lacks the emotional satisfaction of direct revenge, it hurts the empire much, much more deeply. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 13 2024 12:04 utc | 192 To 181. Yes, Washington missed a trick.feom the start should have proposed to work with Ansar Allah to put pressure on Netanyahu, Whatever they actually wanted. Posted by: T J Putnam | Apr 13 2024 12:33 utc | 193 Larry Johnson on panic seizing USUK48, “The world is now in bona fide tenterhooks mode”:
https://sonar21.com/western-countries-panic-as-iran-weighs-its-options/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 13 2024 13:05 utc | 194 Trubind1 | Apr 13 2024 1:02 utc | 175 Posted by: smuks | Apr 13 2024 13:43 utc | 195 Delhiliterally | Apr 13 2024 0:43 utc | 174 Posted by: smuks | Apr 13 2024 14:29 utc | 196 @ librul | Apr 12 2024 12:13 utc
That woke Israeli sounded exactly like panicked West after they have realised that Russia is not playing by rules-based order while kicking their collective ass. Posted by: scanalyse | Apr 13 2024 14:39 utc | 197 The pro-peace and reconciliation speech by (ex-Greek Finance Minister) Yanis Varoufakis on Palestine that German police shut down Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 13 2024 20:13 utc | 198 I have a couple of question for our American Barflies. Id be grateful if the House Trolls, Hasbarans and other Nato narrative-turdflingers hold fire until later please 🙂 Posted by: Judge Barbier | Apr 14 2024 8:52 utc | 199 |
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