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April 7, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-103
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Interesting from Alistair Crooke Posted by: Josef Cohen | Apr 7 2024 13:07 utc | 1 IDF withdraws ground troops from south Gaza, leaving just one brigade in enclave Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 7 2024 13:07 utc | 2 Bibi is a puppet to the right wing crazies. Posted by: Polli | Apr 7 2024 13:07 utc | 3 Earlier today: Major General Mohammad Hossein Bagheri described the attack on Iran’s embassy as a ‘suicide’ mission by the Zionist regime. He underscored “that Iran would carry out a retaliatory operation with precision, causing the Zionist regime to regret their actions”. Posted by: AI | Apr 7 2024 14:11 utc | 4 Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 7 2024 13:07 utc | 1 Posted by: AI | Apr 7 2024 14:16 utc | 5 More detail on retreat of 3 IDF brigades: Posted by: Exile | Apr 7 2024 14:47 utc | 6 Four soldiers killed fighting in southern Gaza as war on Hamas hits six-month mark
“a tank shell that exploded inside the vehicle” – no tank shell explodes just like that. They are insensitive to most things one might do to them which includes using a hammer or dropping a shell from several meters. To launch a shell one needs a high voltage electrical circuit or some external explosive incident. It is highly likely that the tank was hit from the outside.
That ‘dismantled’ local Hamas brigade had just managed to kill four more Israeli soldiers, wounded two others and launched a missile salvo towards Israeli settlements. According to the IOF press release today, ‘only’ 604 troops have died since Oct 7. Really? The number is far larger. Posted by: AI | Apr 7 2024 14:57 utc | 8 “Bibi is a puppet to the right wing crazies. Posted by: Ludo | Apr 7 2024 15:12 utc | 9 Michael Brenner weeps over shattered ruins of the Western conscience, in light of Gaza.
https://scheerpost.com/2024/04/06/michael-brenner-morality-challenged/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 7 2024 15:29 utc | 10 Is Israel pulling out of southern Gaza because they are getting ready to move on to simple air bombardment using heavier artillery and inflict their final and total destruction there? I hate to think that, but….. Posted by: teri | Apr 7 2024 15:44 utc | 11 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 7 2024 15:29 utc | 9 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 15:53 utc | 12 https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1775539603681996887 Posted by: snake | Apr 7 2024 16:42 utc | 13 I do work and getting plants started indoors to plant later … but did I miss a second israeli strike on the Bekka Valley-Beeka of Lebanon in Hezbollah’s deep rear? Or is there a town elsewhere with a similar name. Posted by: paxmark1 | Apr 7 2024 16:57 utc | 14 Yemeni forces strike Zionist and other belligerents ships, with missiles. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2024 17:03 utc | 15 only’ 604 troops have died since Oct 7. Really? The number is far larger. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 7 2024 17:08 utc | 16 I find this rather surreal considering SA’s position with regards to Israel and the ongoing genocide. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2024 17:09 utc | 17 Tide is turning. More mainstream news is posting stuff like the following: Posted by: JAB | Apr 7 2024 17:15 utc | 18 Foreign Fighters and Dual Citizens fighting in the IDF or various Israeli paramilitary units will be increasingly sanctioned by their home countries. Posted by: Exile | Apr 7 2024 17:16 utc | 19 The 225 McDonald’s branches in Israel have been busy but they are losing money. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2024 17:17 utc | 20 It has been a long time since elites in the West had moral standards they would try to live by. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 7 2024 17:50 utc | 21 @ JAB | Apr 7 2024 17:15 utc | 17
I’ve heard similar optimism from respected observers, but I’m not buying it. The premise seems to be that killing six “international” workers has suddenly roused the slumbering Western conscience. As if. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 7 2024 18:30 utc | 23 JAB @ 17 Posted by: circumspect | Apr 7 2024 18:40 utc | 24 LoveDonbass @11, Aleph_Null @ 20 Posted by: PassionateProgressiv | Apr 7 2024 19:10 utc | 25 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 7 2024 17:50 utc | 20 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 7 2024 19:52 utc | 26 Gaza daily SitRep Posted by: Exile | Apr 7 2024 20:04 utc | 27 Bibi and the crazies in the War Cabinet must be in a state of uncontrolled rage at this point in time…. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 7 2024 20:10 utc | 28 Where are all the USUKIS Nihilist Islamists hiding? Their bosses have lost their moral compasses, and even an Islamist would question whether a Posted by: Giyane | Apr 7 2024 20:17 utc | 29 I know shooting up Syrian Muslim villagers and raping Yazidi women, enslaving married women whose husbands disagree with captagon salafists… is fun. Posted by: Giyane | Apr 7 2024 20:30 utc | 31 According to sources….the IDF has suffered over 2,000 KIA’s and 7 – 8,000 wounded in the six months of the genocide war in Gaza…… Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 7 2024 20:34 utc | 33 This is from much earlier today, dunno if it’s been confirmed or refuted since then, might tie in to changes in Israeli force deployments.
Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 7 2024 20:41 utc | 34 It will take time for the Islamists to re-think their adherence to USUKIS after seeing the solid support by the Western nations for the Israeli genocide. Posted by: Giyane | Apr 7 2024 21:04 utc | 35 It will take time for the Islamists to re-think their adherence to USUKIS after seeing the solid support by the Western nations for the Israeli genocide. Posted by: Giyane | Apr 7 2024 21:04 utc | 36 Tobias Cole 27 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 7 2024 21:11 utc | 37 Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 7 2024 13:07 utc | 1 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 7 2024 21:30 utc | 38 meanwhile back at the ranch Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 7 2024 21:43 utc | 39 michaelj72 39 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 7 2024 21:52 utc | 40 “The Jewish state learned that it can commit its own Holocaust in Gaza and deny that it exists.”
If you’re digging for the root of genocidal terror unleashed on the Holy Land, inevitably leading to Holocaust 2.0, you need to go back at least 107 years. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 7 2024 22:31 utc | 41 I answer my own question. Yes, the Bekka Valley was hit again. Numerous sources out now including VOA that Janta (more hilly – near Syria) and Sifri (near Baalbek) were hit. israel says that they were targetted due to the Hermes drone downing over Lebanon. Hezbollah states no casualties. Posted by: paxmark1 | Apr 7 2024 22:36 utc | 42 Germany in the Dock @ICJ The Hague 3 Ships targeted by Houthis! Posted by: Hankster | Apr 7 2024 23:47 utc | 44 @Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2024 17:17 utc | 19 Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 8 2024 1:11 utc | 45 There are rumors circulating that Iran has given an ultimatum to the US: either force Israel to a permanent ceasefire along Palestinian demands, or Israel will face a direct attack from Iran. On Friday, Nasrallah signalled Hezbollah’s readiness to go all-in. He said that Hezbollah has barely tapped its arsenal and has yet to deploy any elite forces. Yet Hezbollah has already emptied northern Israel, destroyed all the northern IDF infrastructure, caused billions in economic losses, and likely killed hundreds of IDF troops. Posted by: Prof | Apr 8 2024 3:00 utc | 46 Nobody in the West political circle would bat an eyelid if civilian aid workers were killed. Posted by: Suresh | Apr 8 2024 4:10 utc | 47 Posted by: Suresh | Apr 8 2024 4:10 utc | 47 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2024 4:15 utc | 48 I am so happy for the Houthis. They have some good weapons but what they are is Fedaykin (Fremen commandos). They know how to wage guerilla warfare from a desert against technologically and economically more powerful foes. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 4:34 utc | 49 And to follow up that thought, the removal of the Zionist cancer has to be done by the people of the region, not outside powers, East or West. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 4:36 utc | 50 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2024 4:15 utc | 48 Posted by: Menz | Apr 8 2024 5:00 utc | 51 Why are militias important? Decentralized command. Autonomous units. Smaller cells of fighters that I assume function like an extended family unit which works well in a part of the world where most social relationships are governed by tribal structures. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2024 5:20 utc | 53 The Cradle has a posting up about reduction of Occupied palestine troops in Gaza with the title
I would say those remaining soldiers are prime targets and will be attacked until gone. Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 8 2024 5:39 utc | 54 Re: Genocide lawsuit against Germany Posted by: Exile | Apr 8 2024 6:37 utc | 55 Prof @ 46 Posted by: circumspect | Apr 8 2024 7:13 utc | 56 Oui | Apr 7 2024 23:20 utc | 43 here is a link to another article about the case by Tarik Cyril Amar.. Posted by: snake | Apr 8 2024 7:54 utc | 57 all over facebook ads like this Posted by: ld | Apr 8 2024 8:22 utc | 58 The example of payments and restitution of property cited above will prove to be a good model for payment for Arab victims by the Israeli gov‘t. Fortunately, the issues of payments to Arabs due has already been codified in international law in 1948 with UNR 194 as well as the 2004 ICJ advisory opinion. Posted by: Exile | Apr 8 2024 8:57 utc | 59 Al Jazeera reports that northern Gaza has not been given access to the 322 aid trucks that entered the Gaza Strip through Rafah yesterday. Anyone surprised? Posted by: teri | Apr 8 2024 9:30 utc | 60 Id 58 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2024 10:11 utc | 61 teri 60 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2024 10:29 utc | 62 @ Posted by: Menz | Apr 8 2024 5:00 utc | 51 And others Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 8 2024 10:50 utc | 63 DunGroanin 64 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2024 10:59 utc | 64 Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 8 2024 10:50 utc | 64 Posted by: Menz | Apr 8 2024 11:26 utc | 66 “The lot of the modern ‘soldiers of fortune’ over this century is as the modern Praetorian Guard – where ever there is an externally controlled regime and leadership it is usually accompanied by such mercenaries, many of whom are on sabbatical from their National militaries or even ordered in to such scenarios as ‘Consultants’ – the Special Forces, Intelligence covert operators , and so on…” Hamas is denying any progress in the ceasefire talks: Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 8 2024 13:39 utc | 68 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 8 2024 13:39 utc | 69 Astonishing paradoxes arises when all usual thresholds are overcomed. Complex situation analisys by Alastair Crooke. Posted by: António Ferrão | Apr 8 2024 15:18 utc | 70 Sorry, put this in Ukraine thread by mistake. |
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