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April 3, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-097
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Another day with the promise of further atrocities by Bibi and the crazies. Posted by: Polli | Apr 3 2024 12:50 utc | 1 Amazing how IsraHell is allowed to murder citizens of the US, Canada, the UK, and Poland without any repercussions. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 3 2024 13:15 utc | 2 Resistance Daily SitRep 2.April Posted by: Exile | Apr 3 2024 15:25 utc | 3 I’d say Israel could nuke London and they’d get away with it. Posted by: Ornot | Apr 3 2024 15:38 utc | 4 Note today marks the 6th months of hostilities since the violent assault on worshipers at the Al-Aqsa Holy Site on 2.Oct 2023. Posted by: Exile | Apr 3 2024 15:40 utc | 5 People don’t understand it is the US controlling Israel, and pushing them into a Middle Eastern War, not the other way around. US will only provide an umbrella to Israel and will not be on the forefront fighting Iran. Israel will do the dirty work for the USA. Posted by: dave | Apr 3 2024 15:40 utc | 6 The Zionists and their apologists are out in force today over the deaths of staff from the World Central Kitchen, but all is not what it seems, yes the Zionists bomb any vehicles or people they wish with impunity, however there’s a big outcry over this bombing because they bombed their OWN. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 3 2024 15:42 utc | 7 According to the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes), if one reads between the lines, AI dystopia has been unleashed upon the population of Gaza in seemingly technologically unprecedented fashion. The West, beginning with the US Pentagon, is clearly using Gaza as live testing ground for AI and robot driven terrorizing and decimation of unruly Global South populations. In this regard the historic victimization of Jews at the hands of some of most important states in the West itself is the transparent Trojan Horse used by the West to repeat the same racialized imperialist massacres of the past. Here the two pretexts or justification for wars designed to perpetuate Western hegemony in the Middle East meet in perfect confluence: terrorism and the uniqueness of the Jewish case of victimization. This is clearly a case of Israel being used by the West, beginning with the US, as an exculpatory weapon for visiting Armageddon on the anti-imperialist majorities constitutive of the populations of the Middle East, precisely because of the continuing vital importance of the region for global supremacy by the West. Needless to say, this is why Israel and only Israel is permitted to hold the nuclear sword of Damocles over the entire region, because the region is in effect a prisoner of an artificial neocolonial micro state, without which the West’s ability of dividing and conquering in the region would be much diminished. Posted by: Ludo | Apr 3 2024 15:56 utc | 9 A matter that seems rarely (if at all) covered is what exactly are the attitudes to all that’s happening from the vantage point of Palestinians who hold Israeli citizenship. Does anyone know or can point to a good source of reporting/journalism on this? Posted by: CrazyTrain | Apr 3 2024 16:04 utc | 11 “People don’t understand it is the US controlling Israel, and pushing them into a Middle Eastern War, not the other way around. US will only provide an umbrella to Israel and will not be on the forefront fighting Iran. Israel will do the dirty work for the USA.” ‘Lavender’: The AI machine directing Israel’s bombing spree in Gaza What is World Central Kitchen?
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 3 2024 16:56 utc | 14 Worth close reading barflies Posted by: Exile | Apr 3 2024 17:02 utc | 15 Is there evidence that Israel actually has nukes? Evidence that might include how they got them? Because unless a nuclear power simply handed over the components, or entire warheads, there should a major footprint, and I’ve never seen anyone mention where Israel gets its yellow cake, how and where it refines weapons-grade fissiles, etc. Since the vaunted Iron Dome system is actually built in the US, where is the Israeli industrial capability to build nuclear missiles (their deterrent is currently advertised as being sub-launched ballistic missiles). What is the story behind these German-made Dolphin-class submarines for this little fleet? What Germany claims to have built is not capable of launching nuclear missiles. Is there evidence that the Israeli’s performed the necessary modifications, which would be extensive? Posted by: Honzo | Apr 3 2024 17:03 utc | 16 Israel is losing the war in Gaza and they know it. Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 3 2024 17:05 utc | 17 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 3 2024 15:42 utc | 7 Posted by: Siddhartha | Apr 3 2024 17:25 utc | 18 Now that the religious exception has been repealed by law, I watch with baited breath the results of the new recruits. 🙂 Perhaps their lengthy study of religion will bring forth a greater adherence to humanity and morality, yes? Oh wonderous day that the most moral army gets even more stringent moralists in its fighting ranks. It could only show greater restraint, nary an unlawful accident (let alone act) could occur! 😉 Posted by: titmouse | Apr 3 2024 17:55 utc | 19 Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 3 2024 17:05 utc | 17 Posted by: AI | Apr 3 2024 17:55 utc | 20 Israel is indeed LOSING in Gaza… and THAT is an American problem because Israel, by way of dual citizens, has long ago bought and paid for the U.S. Congress. Posted by: Liberator | Apr 3 2024 17:55 utc | 21 Posted by: Liberator | Apr 3 2024 17:55 utc | 23 Posted by: AI | Apr 3 2024 17:58 utc | 22 Siddhartha (20). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 3 2024 18:05 utc | 23 From Eva Barlett re: Murders of Aid Workers, possible psyop from the getgo? Posted by: HershSmersh | Apr 3 2024 18:12 utc | 24 It would explain why NuttinYahoo couldn’t stop smirking when talking about it on video Posted by: HershSmersh | Apr 3 2024 18:13 utc | 25 … well, that and the fact that he’s a provably psychopathic racist Judeo-supremacist sick-fuck Posted by: HershSmersh | Apr 3 2024 18:14 utc | 26 … well, that and the fact that he’s a provably psychopathic racist Judeo-supremacist sick-fuck Posted by: HershSmersh | Apr 3 2024 18:14 utc | 27 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 3 2024 15:42 utc | 7but all is not what it seems – Are all the dead ex-military? The Brits are definitely ex-military and rumour has it ex SAS and SBS. Never seen the Israelis going out of their way to say SORRY! One even referred to the WCK as ‘The Good Guys’ – were they doing more than delivering a few meals? Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Apr 3 2024 18:16 utc | 28 “It seems to me that there should be considerable direct evidence for Israeli nuclear capabilities, but I am not aware of any.” Posted by: HershSmersh | Apr 3 2024 18:14 utc | 29
You may fck ever ones Israel Gov. – but not that Isral’s folk as a whole completely – you may just lisen today on further strikes by Iranian “friends” that could & will strike against any ISR-Like consulate buildings just all over around the ‘world’, targeting the origin. Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 18:45 utc | 30
London . . . but not the City of London. Posted by: c matt | Apr 3 2024 18:46 utc | 31
https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1775539603681996887 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 3 2024 18:59 utc | 32 Evidently people are noting that at least in the case of WCK Western ex military were operating in Gaza, this perhaps begs the question how many Western ex military are likely operating in Gaza, how common is this, how many Western ex military humanitarians have been killed in Gaza so far? Could the presence of these British ex military security personnel in the WCK convoy have precipitated the Israeli attack precisely bc Israel did not want to share the Gaza ‘killing fields’ with foreign (ex) military, regardless of how friendly the mission and countries of origin, because such Western ex military might still be active intelligence assets for countries that, despite being the closest allies with Israel, are still by definition foreign and thus capable of extracting intelligence that Israel does not want extracted? Posted by: Ludo | Apr 3 2024 19:03 utc | 33 Posted by: c matt | Apr 3 2024 18:46 utc | 33 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 19:06 utc | 34 at KFC & tose others – Marketing: Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 19:39 utc | 35 @ Peter AU1 | Apr 3 2024 18:59 utc | 34 about the Lavender AI Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 3 2024 19:41 utc | 36 Bloomberg first reported this. , usa doing diplomacy? Or desperate?? Posted by: Hankster | Apr 3 2024 20:28 utc | 37 It was evident in the first month or two that the Israelis were targeting “suspects” in their homes, at night, and therefore wiping out extended families. This should be understood as wholesale murder, however rules of engagement involving so-called collateral casualties were transformed (“loosened”) two decades ago by Israel’s chief sponsor the United States, for use in Iraq. This was brought to attention by a devastating strike on a restaurant where Saddam was believed to have been dining, killing dozens (in the aftermath the Americans collected what DNA samples they could find in an effort to identify Hussein’s literal “remains”). It was revealed soon after this macabre event that such a strike was considered perfectly legal by U.S. military, with the proviso that potential strikes which could kill 30 or more bystanders would need SecDef Rumsfeld’s personal okay ahead of launch. Posted by: jayc | Apr 3 2024 20:33 utc | 38 The problem is as ever that problem was: Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 20:34 utc | 39 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 20:34 utc | 41 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 21:00 utc | 40 Meanwhile, in the Unfunny Jokes department, RT reports: Posted by: malenkov | Apr 3 2024 21:11 utc | 41 Iran could fire a ballistic missile towards the Israeli embassy in Kiev. That would awe the West and Israel. Posted by: dave | Apr 3 2024 21:15 utc | 42 Sorry todd @43 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 21:17 utc | 43 Posted by: malenkov | Apr 3 2024 21:11 utc | 44 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 3 2024 21:19 utc | 44 It seems to me that there should be considerable direct evidence for Israeli nuclear capabilities, but I am not aware of any. Posted by: Philo67 | Apr 3 2024 21:21 utc | 45 Iran could fire a ballistic missile towards the Israeli embassy in Kiev. That would awe the West and Israel. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 3 2024 21:21 utc | 46 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 3 2024 21:21 utc | 49
NO : “getting down on all fours and bark back” – NO – is a good answer. Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 21:44 utc | 47 Posted by: Hankster | Apr 3 2024 20:28 utc | 39 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 3 2024 21:51 utc | 48 Ludo Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 3 2024 22:05 utc | 49 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 3 2024 21:51 utc | 51 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 22:07 utc | 50 Ghost of Ganon Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 3 2024 22:14 utc | 51 I’m listening to some “funny” comments just above. Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 22:31 utc | 52 If Iran wanted to retaliate strategically, it should take out Israel’s apartheid border walls with precision strikes. How can Biden respond without exposing his double standards since his 2024 presidential campaign theme is “only racist Trump voters support border walls.” Besides being a symbolic retaliatory target for Iran, it has the added bonus of exposing the hypocrisy of Genocide Joe Posted by: Willow | Apr 3 2024 22:33 utc | 53 Continued. I will add that if Iran demolished out Israel’s apartheid walls, Israel would be forced to accept the flood of Palestinian refugees and have to provide them food and shelter. Posted by: Willow | Apr 3 2024 22:38 utc | 54 Just a thought regarding the lavender system in place doing targeting. Add that to where was that during Oct 7 ? Part of the high tech gulag enforcement we are told about that was suddenly down for maintenance or off having coffee to not alert that there were “targets” swarming about in a mass towards the other high tech security fence. No alerts that hundreds of fighters all holding weapons walking about . If it’s down to targeting individuals it certainly failed that day Posted by: Hankster | Apr 3 2024 22:40 utc | 55 Seconding Hankster with this quote by Thierry Meyssan: Posted by: Ludo | Apr 3 2024 22:55 utc | 56 If US/EU economy responsible managers (as of its ‘still own’ companies like Bosch, Siemens, Daimler, BM, GM, Ford etc.) people that have elected that currently operating deep gov. would further succeed anyway, some international conflicts will run as before. Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 23:00 utc | 57 Posted by: Willow | Apr 3 2024 22:33 utc | 56 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 3 2024 23:00 utc | 58 @Philo67 48
The Nuclear Explosion That Makes US Aid to Israel Illegal
Posted by: Tobin Paz | Apr 3 2024 23:00 utc | 59 Posted by: Willow | Apr 3 2024 22:38 utc | 57 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 3 2024 23:02 utc | 60 AFAIK, they’ve never tested a nuclear weapon, nor mounted one on a missile or any other delivery system. Posted by: thewokendead | Apr 3 2024 23:04 utc | 61 Posted by: thewokendead | Apr 3 2024 23:04 utc | 64 Posted by: Dumbo | Apr 3 2024 23:27 utc | 62 People are of course free to make of it what they will. Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 3 2024 23:39 utc | 63 I don’t think you understand the hatred for the Palestinians in Israeli hearts. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 3 2024 23:41 utc | 64 @Honzo post # 16. Posted by: JAB | Apr 3 2024 23:48 utc | 65 @Liberator post 23 Posted by: JAB | Apr 3 2024 23:52 utc | 66 https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231006-jews-reverse-immigration-from-israel-is-on-the-rise/ Posted by: John Law | Apr 4 2024 2:14 utc | 67 https://thecradle.co/articles/how-do-iranians-boil-a-frog-slowly-and-methodically Posted by: John Law | Apr 4 2024 2:37 utc | 68 13s Posted by: Lydia | Apr 4 2024 2:56 utc | 69 “People don’t understand it is the US controlling Israel, and pushing them into a Middle Eastern War, not the other way around. US will only provide an umbrella to Israel and will not be on the forefront fighting Iran. Israel will do the dirty work for the USA.” Posted by: anorm | Apr 4 2024 2:59 utc | 70 The IDF has roughly 240 tactical nuclear warheads. These war heads can be delivered by aircraft or by missiles. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 4 2024 3:08 utc | 71 Posted by: Tobias Cole | Apr 4 2024 3:08 utc | 75 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 4 2024 3:35 utc | 72 Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 3 2024 19:41 utc | 38 Posted by: ChasMark | Apr 4 2024 3:37 utc | 73 Posted by: canuck | Apr 3 2024 16:05 utc | 12 Posted by: ChasMark | Apr 4 2024 3:46 utc | 74 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Apr 3 2024 21:00 utc | 42 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 4 2024 4:02 utc | 75 Israel has never fought for a US interest; no Israel soldier has shed a drop of Chosen blood on behalf of USA. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 4 2024 4:47 utc | 76 The self reinforcing Jewish Israeli “Positive Feedback Murder Loop”: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 4 2024 5:01 utc | 77 Regarding Israel’s 3 drone strikes on World Central Kitchen workers. Posted by: Laura Roslin | Apr 4 2024 5:33 utc | 78 ‘The IDF has roughly 240 tactical nuclear warheads. These war heads can be delivered by aircraft or by missiles.” Posted by: thewokendead | Apr 4 2024 6:07 utc | 79 Resistance Roundup SITREP 4.April Posted by: Exile | Apr 4 2024 6:13 utc | 80 So Gantz’s call for an election in September following his DC visit will only encourage Netanyahu to try to ‘finish the job’ faster, right? What hope is there he’ll fail? Posted by: dumbo | Apr 4 2024 6:33 utc | 81 All lives are equal but some appear to be more equal than others! Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 4 2024 7:18 utc | 82 It’s a waste of time and reasoning to debate whether the blood-sucking funnel or the tentacles of a giant kraken are most responsible for your imminent demise. Posted by: Joseph Dillard | Apr 4 2024 8:15 utc | 83 The (US) trying to control the narrative if a two state solution comes around. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 4 2024 8:50 utc | 84 The Sirius Report Posted by: MD | Apr 4 2024 9:16 utc | 85 I recall some 130 countries already recognize the Palestinian Nation-State. Posted by: Exile | Apr 4 2024 9:41 utc | 86 Posted by: jayc | Apr 3 2024 20:33 utc | 40 Posted by: Greg | Apr 4 2024 10:13 utc | 87 Arnaud Bertrand Posted by: Menz | Apr 4 2024 10:16 utc | 88 Kaitlan Collins Posted by: Menz | Apr 4 2024 10:17 utc | 89 Sulaiman Ahmed Posted by: Menz | Apr 4 2024 10:18 utc | 90 Sulaiman Ahmed Posted by: Menz | Apr 4 2024 10:20 utc | 91 Posted by: Hankster | Apr 3 2024 20:28 utc | 39 Posted by: Greg | Apr 4 2024 10:20 utc | 92 Farrukh Posted by: Menz | Apr 4 2024 10:24 utc | 93 Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸 Posted by: Menz | Apr 4 2024 10:26 utc | 94 Posted by: Ludo | Apr 3 2024 19:03 utc | 35 Posted by: snake | Apr 4 2024 10:53 utc | 95 “”⚡️Russia tells Israel, “the Golan Heights belong to Syria.” Posted by: financial matters | Apr 4 2024 10:55 utc | 96 And still the English Tory government continues to sell weapons to Israel, I think Rishi Sunak (England’s PM) and his wife have business interests in Israel. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 4 2024 11:06 utc | 97 🅰pocalypsis 🅰pocalypseos 🇷🇺 🇨🇳 🅉 Posted by: Menz | Apr 4 2024 11:27 utc | 98 “What does “The Empire” gain from Israel that it cannot accomplish itself?” Menz 98. Need to verify Canada closed that embassy in 2102 . Diplomatic staff left at beginning of “assad must go” Posted by: Hankster | Apr 4 2024 11:44 utc | 100 |
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