Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
April 25, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-121

News & views (not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine) …

Comments

Sydney 4.39am… another early start for me and still b is missing. Best to you man. Hope you’re ok.

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 29 2024 18:39 utc | 301

The blood clots that can result in strokes in people suffering from atrial fibrillation form in the left atrial appendage of the heart. The surgery that inserts a Watchman or Amulet in the heart has the result of sealing off the left atrial appendage, so that clots cannot form there.

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 29 2024 18:40 utc | 302

The rate of women killed by an intimate partner in Australia increased by nearly 30% in 2022-23, compared to the previous year, according to data released by the Australian Institute of Criminology on Monday.

Here we go again. As I scan the article (in the Guardian of course) I find no explanation offered until this enigmatic statement:

Patty Kinnersly, chair of violence prevention organisation Our Watch, says: “Those figures are confronting, but it’s even more confronting in the context of what’s happened in the start of this year with 26 of the 27 women allegedly killed by a man.”
“As we know, violent murders are only the tip of the iceberg. There are tens of thousands of women living in controlling unhealthy relationships.”
[…]
Men are also far more likely to commit homicide, according to the figures, which show that in cases where the sex of the perpetrator was known, 86.4% were committed by men and 13.6% were committed by women.

Ah, gotcha. Problem solved then. Even though the data, when examined, put the motives for violence on massive erosion of social life under the impact of neoliberalization, financialization and exploitation. But by all means protest against men, ban men, pathologise gender, etc. The same card played over and over again.

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 29 2024 19:02 utc | 303

I could add that the ‘fallacy of evidence’ is all over this article and the debate. Since men do the murdering, there’s no need for interpretation. The explanation is simply ‘men’. Men kill, men bad. Easy. Heaven forbid we interpret the data in a historical context. Fucktards.

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 29 2024 19:06 utc | 304

Doesn’t b run a @MoA X/Twitter account?
I don’t use that system myself but if anyone here does follow @MoA please could they try tweeting a message, even if it is just to say “Hi, folks are getting concerned”.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2024 19:09 utc | 305

Then again I think it might be @MoonOfA .

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2024 19:12 utc | 306

I’m enjoying the OT debate on apostrophes and grammar, over at Palestine thread. As an ESL speaker, I find English to be quite an amusing language in that, one can see words that have multiple meanings, and multiple meanings in multiple contexts. Then there are words that sound the same but have different meaning.
I see some, here, for example use the word “then”, when they actually mean “than,” and visa versa. “Do” when they mean “due” — due to the fact — with all do[sic] respect.
There are easy words to misspell. I once used the word parish, when I meant perish (publish or parish[sic]). karlof1 kindly corrected me. I wanted to say thanks with acknowledging:
Parishes are congregations.
Parishes are in NOLA.
Parishes are former Boston Celtics. Grin.
Then there are words, like ain’t — I ain’t learned that one yet.
And, king of all English words, is the ephwurd. It can used in dozens of different situations — my favorite usage — on second thought, let’s just not go there.The word is used prolifically, and fits all forms and grammar. It is present, past, and future, all rolled into one.
(“Is”, in the context of Clinton whatchubetalkingabout, comes in a close second place)
Over the years, as I learn more English, false equivalencies fade away. I no longer say “big” Coke, when I mean “large” Coke. Many of the direct(word for word) translation from one language to English, which make the end result a jumble of mess, are also avoided. It is a learning process; not a perfect one; challenges abound.
I’ve learned “I” before “e” but not after “c.” I’ve learned that “it” does not have a possessive form so it is “its,” not “it’s.” I’ve learned what it means when “it’s raining cats and dogs.” I’ve learned the meaning of “pleonexia” (thanks Karl). I’ve even learned the new method of quoting with periods and commas: “this can go,” but not “that.”
Having learned all that, I know, I know nothing. Grin.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 29 2024 19:25 utc | 307

Ah, gotcha. Problem solved then. Even though the data, when examined, put the motives for violence on massive erosion of social life under the impact of neoliberalization, financialization and exploitation. But by all means protest against men, ban men, pathologise gender, etc. The same card played over and over again.
Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 29 2024 19:02 utc | 303
Ah, yes. but the erosion of social life under the impact of neoliberalism has been going on for decades so what else was going on?
A brutal lockdown, particularly in Australia.

Posted by: simon crow | Apr 29 2024 19:26 utc | 308

“.. The developed West, it seems, may soon be entering 1920s Russia territory, moreover run by many of the same types…”
scorpion @16:24 utc | 296
Thus spake Goebbels.
My own impression is that Russia in the 1920s was enjoying an unprecedented freedom of expression, something reflected in the art and literature of the time. Surely nobody would argue that there was less freedom of expression than there had been under the Czars?
Your contributions suffer from the inevitable appearance of that cloven hoof of neo-nazi anti-Bolshevism that devalues your occasional forays into original thinking.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 29 2024 19:44 utc | 309

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 29 2024 19:25 utc | 307
As a native English speaker I apologise for our abuse of the letters ‘ough’:

I bought a ticket from Middlesbrough to Bough Beech, though through Peterborough the price was enough to make one cough.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2024 19:58 utc | 310

Doesn’t b run a @MoA X/Twitter account?
I don’t use that system myself but if anyone here does follow @MoA please could they try tweeting a message, even if it is just to say “Hi, folks are getting concerned”.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2024 19:09 utc | 305
It is now clear that something has happened because b would have by now either informed all about his absence or would have reacted to the concern that some of us have expressed.
MoA does have a twitter account so anyone who is on twitter, please check the account and send a message as suggested by Jeremy, post 305.
Also, if anyone has any contact for or with b, or someone who knows b, could you please try to find out what is going on.
That is now more important than any discussion on the blog.

Posted by: JB | Apr 29 2024 20:00 utc | 311

A while back, I solicited the bar for recommendations on the history of the disintegration of Yugoslavia. I got some good suggestions, including some lectures by Michael Parenti. Today, I happened to stumble upon a three-part, roughly six hour documentary made by a Serb, who is now a Canadian, (in fact the documentary is Canadian) called The Weight of Chains. I have only watched the first installment, but I think I can confidently recommend it to anyone interested. I had gotten married in the early 90s and for the rest of that decade was busy raising children with my wife, so this was a big blank spot in my historical memory. Sounds like it was and Shock Doctrine operation. I should have known.

Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 29 2024 20:11 utc | 312

Sorry, I wanted to also express my concern for b and hope whatever is causing his absence is a temporary problem.

Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 29 2024 20:15 utc | 313

Posted by: bevin | Apr 29 2024 19:44 utc | 309
Your contributions suffer from the inevitable appearance of that cloven hoof of neo-nazi anti-Bolshevism that devalues your occasional forays into original thinking.

Except the opinion comes from common sense not ideology. My firm impression, which I admit might be false, is that millions were murdered by a Jewish Bolshevik clique which seized power and acted in unforgivably savage ways against those who opposed them, many by virtue of being born into a certain class or religion. To me, the Bolsheviks were evil.
If that impression is mistaken it has nothing to do with ‘nazi anti-bolshevism’ but my own moral compass. Similarly, am not anti-Jewish but for decades have deplored how Jews treat Palestinians. This too is not based on religion or ideology but common sense. Am open to the possibility that the Bolsheviks may have believed that their mass murdering was for a higher, beneficent cause but am not at all convinced their way was better than the slow democratic reforms already underway under the Tzars. I further believe Jewish animus, such as we see today in Gaza, was the main driving force of the atrocities.
So we will just have to disagree. I believe your denial of the bolshevik evil facilitates its arising again. That said, to be clear, I believe fascism, communism and capitalism are equal vectors of evil and the endless battle between them long outdated. Rather, we should move forward past their benighted, secular, materialist fallacies to something better and more human, along the lines of Dugin’s (admittedly vague) Fourth Way, something by no means guaranteed given current events.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 29 2024 20:20 utc | 314

The same card played over and over again.
Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 29 2024 19:02 utc | 303

Yup. Get enough people to chant “something must be done” then use it as an excuse to do something against their best interests. Electronic monitoring, moar censorship, etc.

Posted by: Rae | Apr 29 2024 20:20 utc | 315

72 hours. No one leaves their baby for that long unless they can’t. I’m on hope now.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 29 2024 20:26 utc | 316

b locked the comments when he knew he’d be out of action.
That the comments were left unlocked means he went “out of action” unexpectedly.
I am Extremely Concerned.
——-

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 29 2024 20:52 utc | 317

Bernhard is tough. A tanker. He’s a very strong spirit.
Let’s project faith in the man, and tangentially, faith in ourselves.
And be better commenters – I know it’s tough to do, because all you are _so_ wonderful – when he gets back.
====
And no, there was not a sniff of sarcasm in that “so wonderful”.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Apr 29 2024 20:52 utc | 318

scorpion@314 invents Tsarist reforms, which were not “slow.” Nonexistent is a better word, though glacial might be tolerable. Then scorpion invents mass murdering by Bolsheviks. People killed in combat between armed parties are not “murdered,” in any honest usage of the word. It is more common to use murder for retaliatory killings but ignoring the previous killings by Tsarists is tendentious, to put it politely. The violence of the Russian civil war was a continuation of the Tsar’s violent war and driven largely by fear of defeat and the desire to survive Tsarist madness. The democratic Provisional Government deliberately committed itself to continuing the imperialist war and equally deliberately abandoned their own professed programs and ideals for imperialist war. The Bolshevik party was not dominated by Jews and pretending they were is not moving past sterile meaningless verbal disputes between fascists and capitalists (who are not even separate categories of people) and Communists but perpetuating fascist ideology. No moral compass has lies as its cardinal directions. No one prating about materialist fallacies has any common sense, because it is the repudiation of magic, the supernatural and other such bigotries that is common sense, which means to say, based on reality.
But I forget, you are preaching to the gallery, which at MoA is pretty far right.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 29 2024 20:55 utc | 319

I sincerely hope b is OK, I’m also pretty worried. Needless to say, if anyone received any news through other channels, please put it up here.
As a form of copium, I continue a discussion..
From scorpion @314

Except the opinion comes from common sense not ideology. My firm impression, which I admit might be false, is that millions were murdered by a Jewish Bolshevik clique which seized power and acted in unforgivably savage ways against those who opposed them, many by virtue of being born into a certain class or religion. To me, the Bolsheviks were evil.
If that impression is mistaken it has nothing to do with ‘nazi anti-bolshevism’ but my own moral compass. Similarly, am not anti-Jewish but for decades have deplored how Jews treat Palestinians. This too is not based on religion or ideology but common sense. Am open to the possibility that the Bolsheviks may have believed that their mass murdering was for a higher, beneficent cause but am not at all convinced their way was better than the slow democratic reforms already underway under the Tzars. I further believe Jewish animus, such as we see today in Gaza, was the main driving force of the atrocities.
So we will just have to disagree. I believe your denial of the bolshevik evil facilitates its arising again. That said, to be clear, I believe fascism, communism and capitalism are equal vectors of evil and the endless battle between them long outdated. Rather, we should move forward past their benighted, secular, materialist fallacies to something better and more human, along the lines of Dugin’s (admittedly vague) Fourth Way, something by no means guaranteed given current events.

scorpion, that history is simply false. If it were true, your feelings towards Bolshevism would be justified. However, the history taught in the West about the Bolshevik revolution, the USSR, and especially Stalin is fabricated, exaggerated, and decontextualized beyond belief. This falsified history is based primarily (though not exclusively) on three sources: Trotsky, Kruschev’s “secret speech” to the 20th party congress, and Nazi propaganda. This falsified history is taught in the West because our ruling class absolutely needs to uphold the myth that There Is No Alternative.
I highly recommend “Stalin: History and Critique of a Black Legend” by Domenico Losurdo, whereby he systematically dismantles this falsified history by almost exclusively referencing the contradictions and admissions found in anti-communist or anti-Stalinist sources.
It’s an excellent read and available for free in PDF format here: https://www.iskrabooks.org/stalin-history-and-critique

Posted by: Palm & Needle | Apr 29 2024 21:09 utc | 320

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 29 2024 20:55 utc | 319
Well, I could easily froth and posture and call YOU a liar as you did me.
But that’s not how I roll. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 29 2024 21:11 utc | 321

steven t johnson | Apr 29 2024 20:55 utc | 319
Precisely.
The ‘gallery” unfortunately is a fairly representative sampling of generations marinated since birth in neo McCarthyite anti-communism and the neo-liberalism that it helped bring into the world.
There is as you say very little if any evidence that the Reds in the Civil wars engaged in massacres of any kind. Like the PLA in China they operated on the basis that nine tenths of the men fighting them were victims of false consciousness who, if treated humanely, would learn the error of their ways and become supporters of the new order. And the history of both the Red Army- to which most of the best officers of the Tsarist army rallied- and the Soviet economy, which offered employment and responsibility to professionals, managers, technicians and even entrepreneurs prepared to reconcile with the new regime, exemplifies the way in which the revolution became a national and often patriotic movement.
That communist doctrine seems to be preserved in the current Ukraine war in which the Russian side appears to be going to enormous pains to spare civilians in the hope that it will be able to rally the population to its side after the war.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 29 2024 21:17 utc | 322

Palm & Needle | Apr 29 2024 21:09 utc | 320
Again I find myself in complete agreement. As to Losurda’s book thanks to an error I ended up with three copies of the book- anyone passing close to Georgian Bay is welcome…but only to one of them.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 29 2024 21:20 utc | 323

The Bolshevik party was not dominated by Jews
But. It was though.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 29 2024 21:20 utc | 324

It’s an excellent read and available for free in PDF format here: https://www.iskrabooks.org/stalin-history-and-critique
Posted by: Palm & Needle | Apr 29 2024 21:09 utc | 32

Thanks a lot for providing the link to Domenico Losurdo’s Book

Posted by: Framarz | Apr 29 2024 21:28 utc | 325

https://twitter.com/MoonofA

Posted by: Father Dougal | Apr 29 2024 21:29 utc | 326

But I forget, you are preaching to the gallery, which at MoA is pretty far right.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 29 2024 20:55 utc | 319
Respectfully, I don’t agree with that statement. If I did, I wouldn’t be so attached to this site. Some of our most prolific posters are firmly left, real left. I don’t need to name names. Part of what I enjoy is that we have different perspectives here, a wacky melange. I might not agree with what certain posters say but as long as they’re not being blatantly racist, etc.(which happens sometimes), I don’t care. There are often lively discussions with people who disagree with each other…I can live with that. The racists tend to get drummed out or just give up in the end. I think it’s a disservice to b to characterize this site are far right. This is a special place, not perfect, but it’s important to me.

Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 29 2024 21:41 utc | 327

Posted by: Palm & Needle | Apr 29 2024 21:09 utc | 320
Thank you for the recommendation. My impressions of those times doesn’t come from ‘western education’. Mainly I read revisionist historians debunking post-war Jewish atrocity propaganda. Later, I read a little about Russia including Juri Lina’s ‘Under the Sign of the Scorpion’ which made a strong impression; also occasional articles.
Based on that reading am fairly confident that mass atrocities were perpetrated in Russia: the Red Terror, labour camps, mass murder of Christian clergy, class persecution of kulaks etc. Of course there are arguments on all sides as there always are with such things. Maybe it wasn’t forty but ‘only’ ten million murdered and nowadays new archives cited by barflies maintain the entire story is a fabrication.
However, based on my revisionist studies am inclined to disbelieve those who insist that nothing nasty happened in the Jewish Bolshevik era, nor that it was not a primarily Jewish-masonic movement. Moreover, my default position is that all Jewish activists of any stripe, past and present, are serial liars. This strong prejudice on my part naturally colours my attitude about Russia in the 1920’s though suspect it is not possible to be impartial about a time with such a highly disputed historical record. (It is so because it was so atrocious and so many lies need to be told!)
I will take a look at your book, but this is not my main field of interest, though AM concerned lest the same thing is soon visited upon us by the same types.
Thanks again.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 29 2024 22:00 utc | 328

Roger | Apr 27 2024 23:00 utc | 143
The German issue is that they had in place already built nuclear reactors running at low cost (yes with an implicit government insurance subsidy) that they shut down.
That’s only part of the picture. The last German reactors hadn’t been thoroughly checked since 2009. Inspection should be every 10 years; it was thus 3,5 years overdue when they were switched off in 2023. They allowed for an exceptional extension – but any longer would’ve been irresponsible.
The decision to exit nuclear power had been taken in 2000, leaving enough time for those involved to plan the process (this is Germany, after all;-). Companies and public regulators had been winding down their operations, not hired & trained new specialists etc. So, a sudden change of plans wouldn’t have been practically feasible.
Next point, lack of public support – the short-lived “exit from the exit” in 2010 led to massive protests, and was abandoned shortly after Fukushima.
Lastly, lack of disposal site for nuclear waste. This made the entire operation illegal under German law. However, they had used a loophole by “exploring” a “potential site”, even though they knew very well that it was unsuitable. It has since been abandoned, and the search has been re-started from zero.
I really wish that people who comment on energy, EV etc. topics would first of all get up to speed on what is happening in China, which is accelerating its nuclear build out.
I’m well aware of that.
My understanding is that China’s electricity needs are growing so fast, Beijing thinks it’s necessary to use all possible sources. In particular ‘domestic’ sources, since Beijing wants to reduce dependence on oil and gas imports. Also, public protests are, let’s say, difficult there, and issues of such magnitude are decided top-down in Beijing.
So, China does what it does, but I think the circumstances are quite different from western countries.
Until we get very large scale batteries, perhaps 10-15 years from now, the intermittency will still be an issue no matter what BS is thrown out.
We have large scale “batteries” – they’re called pumped storage power plants. Different studies give different figures for the amount of (additional) capacity required, but between the various types of short/ medium/ long term storage and “flexible consumers” (e.g. energy intensive industries producing only when electricity’s cheap), it’s absolutely feasible. With today’s technology.
Wind and solar aren’t even growing fast enough to offset the growth in energy usage and therefore stop the growth in fossil fuel usage – let alone reduce it.
Electricity usage isn’t growing, in fact it’s even declining in some western countries.
The real big issue is that electricity makes up only 15-20% of total energy use. The vast majority is oil, gas and coal (also a surprisingly large share of biomass, c. 10%). Steel, chemicals etc. can switch to (green) hydrogen – but it requires huge investments, and massive amounts of electricity. (nb, mass-producing hydrogen from wind & solar also reduces the required el. storage capacity)
Again, it’s feasible – but I do expect energy-intensive industries to shrink substantially.
Solid state batteries will not hit a price point competitive with lithium-ion, sodium-ion, semi sold state until around 2030. By then it will be pretty much game over in the EV market.
That’d be in 6 years – sounds almost like ‘tomorrow’ to me.
I read somewhere that Toyota announced solid state batteries for 2027. Do you think that’s realistic, and do you know whether others are on a similar track? Haven’t been following the debate too closely, I admit.
(I should’ve known better than open the nuclear debate here…;-)

Posted by: smuks | Apr 29 2024 22:08 utc | 329

I’ve learned that “it” does not have a possessive form so it is “its,” not “it’s.” I’ve learned what it means when “it’s raining cats and dogs.” I’ve learned the meaning of “pleonexia” (thanks Karl).
@ Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 29 2024 19:25 utc | 307

My dictionary has no entry for pleonexia, but it’s quite close to a favorite of mine, the pleonasm, an unnecessary redundancy. Sworn enemy of the oxymoron working for military intelligence, the pleonasm squats in place just to take up space. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
Darn it, now I already forget my oath to stay away from language. I’m so seriously impressed whenever the rare luminary arrives who knows the diff between its and it’s, I’ve gotten carried away again. My cubicle days are far behind me now, but literacy was slipping fast, among six-figure technical workers, way back when.
As we get more accustomed to seeking out information in video form, even the literate among us start to neurologically atrophy in the brainspans which would otherwise be strengthened by sitting down with a book. The video part of our brain essentially crowds out the literate part. Constant change is the pulse of every living language, but it’s alarming how the “smart” phone has landed like a neutron bomb on the English language.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 29 2024 22:17 utc | 330

canuck | Apr 28 2024 16:00 utc | 202
MMT offers an adequate analysis of the “fiat” monetary system we’ve had since 1971.
It’s been more than 50 years now, and it’s doing fairly fine.
Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 29 2024 10:34 utc | 271
You’re right, China is expanding nuclear power generation. Should’ve written “few are being built outside China”. I don’t see it making sense economically, can only guesstimate the reasons (s.a. @Roger). Wonder if they will actually build this many, or if Beijing’s policy will change at some point (as happened with coal).

Posted by: smuks | Apr 29 2024 22:21 utc | 331

Roger | Apr 29 2024 2:05 utc | 241
We’re generally very much on the same page here. Which is already a lot. 🙂
What’s left is technical details – some of which may end up being important. Should say that I’ve been in a working group with some folks who were *extremely* fussy about technicalities…
The state spends money into existence – technically, it’s the central bank creating the money, by crediting it to the state’s account, from where it can be spent. In exchange, the treasury issues bonds and hands them to the CB as collateral. (Sovereign bonds are sometimes referred to as ‘state money’ – but I assume when using the term ‘money’, we mean CB money.)
Two corollaries:
1. Without these bonds, the money issued by the CB & spent by the state wouldn’t be backed by anything. Holders of this money would have little reason to trust its value, and start exchanging it for basically “anything else” (foreign currency, gold & other commodities, real estate…).
2. If the state relies on the CB funding its budget, there’s a high chance tax collection will become lax. After all, lowering or not enforcing taxes makes any government quite popular. The effect is similar to 1.: Due to an ever-growing amount of CB money and lack of tax collection, people will begin to flee the currency, exchanging it for alternative stores of value.
Unfortunately, many people only notice the first half of MMT. The second, equally important, states that CB financing is no substitute for taxes. They are necessary to limit the amount of money in circulation, thus preventing a flight to alternatives and the collapse of the currency.
What QE and rate targeting have shown is that CBs can not only set interest rates for banks’ reserves, but also control bond yields. Real rates have been around zero in the US, negative in Germany and Japan etc. since 2008. Under these circumstances, it doesn’t matter much whether bonds are held by CBs or other entities imo.
(Canada in the 50s isn’t a valid comparison, since that was pre-1971 gold-backed money.)

Posted by: smuks | Apr 29 2024 23:04 utc | 332

@Cynic | Apr 29 2024 22:26 utc | 665 (Ukraine thread)

Plato has been mentioned in several recent discussions…
Item in the Guardian (29 April 2024)
titled :
** Plato’s final hours recounted in scroll found in Vesuvius ash **
extract :
** Newly deciphered passages from a papyrus scroll that was buried beneath layers of volcanic ash after the AD79 eruption of Mount Vesuvius may have shed light on the final hours of Plato, a key figure in the history of western philosophy.
In a groundbreaking discovery, the ancient scroll was found to contain a previously unknown narrative detailing how the Greek philosopher spent his last evening, describing how he listened to music played on a flute by a Thracian slave girl. **
link to item: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/29/herculaneum-scroll-plato-final-hours-burial-site

Cynic@665
There is a burned library at Herculaneum with hundreds of carbonized scrolls. People have figured out a way to digitally unroll them using AI and to distinguish the carbon based ink from the carbonized papyrus making it theoretically possible to read them. Pretty amazing. I will dig up the links and post them on the open thread.
Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 29 2024 23:05 utc | 671
Links: https://www2.cs.uky.edu/dri/herculaneum-papyrus-scrolls/
https://www.neh.gov/news/students-decipher-2000-year-old-herculaneum-scrolls

Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 29 2024 23:15 utc | 333

My dictionary has no entry for pleonexia, but it’s quite close to a favorite of mine, the pleonasm, an unnecessary redundancy.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 29 2024 22:17 utc | 330
Aleph_Null, thank you for the word pleonasm. Now I know a new word.
My goal in life is to learn something new every day, regardless of how big or small. At the end of the day — I know this was mentioned as sticking point earlier, and people use to to mean different things — no, really, at the end of day, before I go to sleep, I review my day and make sure I have at least learned a new thing. If I have not, I will not sleep until I’ve learned something new; a word is an easy way to achieve that goal. So, tonight, as I review, I will thank you for the new word.
karlof1 brought the word pleonexia to our attention and added it to MoA lexicon.
noun
1. Excessive or insatiable greed, avarice, covetousness, the desire to have more, a greedy desire for certain goods.
2. A psychiatric disorder characterized by greediness, an excessive desire for acquisition of wealth or objects.
Cheers,

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 29 2024 23:20 utc | 334

@the pessimist | Apr 29 2024 23:15 utc | 333
Another link: https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/deciphered-herculaneum-papyrus-reveals-precise-burial-place-of-plato/

Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 29 2024 23:23 utc | 335

Melaleuca | Apr 29 2024 20:52 utc | 317
You’re right, and I’m also highly concerned now.
I don’t like discussing, or rather speculating on others’ lives, but this absence is becoming worrisome.
Really hope he’s ok.

Posted by: smuks | Apr 29 2024 23:31 utc | 336

Sworn enemy of the oxymoron working for military intelligence, the pleonasm squats in place just to take up space.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 29 2024 22:17 utc | 330
Aleph_Null, I guess redundancy is a good thing in this case, otherwise the “gremlins” would be blamed for lack of stuff.
I had to chuckle at this one. I knew an air force pilot that said, unknowns, like chewed up wires and such, were always blamed on the gremlins. Insatiable appetite, those gremlins.

Wishing you well b. As they say: get over it already.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 29 2024 23:44 utc | 337

Posted by: bevin | Apr 29 2024 21:17 utc | 322
There is as you say very little if any evidence that the Reds in the Civil wars engaged in massacres of any kind.

Not true. Recommend the well sourced ‘Black Book of Communism’. Their section on the Red Terror period filled with anecdotes from the period, sourced. One of which, still available online, is ‘The Red Terror in Russia 1919-1923’ published in 1924, by S.P. Melgunov. From the files of the Central Committee: :

A report from N. Rosental, inspector of the leadership of special departments, dated 16 October 1919:
Atarbekov, chief of the special departments of the Eleventh Army, is now refusing to recognize the authority of headquarters. On 30 July, when Comrade [Andrei] Zakovsky, who was sent from Moscow to examine the work of special departments, came to see [Georgy] Atarbekov, the latter answered openly, “Tell Dzerzhinsky [Head of Cheka] I am refusing his control.” No administrative norm is being respected by these people, who for the most part are highly dubious, if not plainly criminal in their behavior. The Operations Department keeps almost no records whatever. For death sentences and the execution of such sentences, I found no individual judgments, just lists, for the most part incomplete, of people killed, with the mention “Shot at the behest of Comrade Atarbekov.” As for the events of March, it is impossible to get any clear idea of who was shot or why . . . Orgies and drunkenness are daily occurrences. Almost all the personnel of the Cheka are heavy cocaine users. They say that this helps them deal with the sight of so much blood on a daily basis. Drunk with blood and violence, the Cheka is doing its duty, but it is made up of uncontrollable elements that will require close surveillance.*
The internal reports of the Party and the Cheka confirm the numerous statements collected in 1919 and 1920 by the enemies of the Bolsheviks, and particularly by the Commission of Special Inquiry into Bolshevik Crimes, established by General Denikin, whose archives, after being transferred from Prague to Moscow in 1945, were long inaccessible but are now open to public scrutiny. In 1926 the Russian Socialist Revolutionary historian Sergei Melgunov, in his book The Red Terror in Russia, had tried to catalogue the main massacres of prisoners, hostages, and civilians who were killed en masse by the Bolsheviks, usually on the basis of class. Though incomplete, the list of the principal episodes mentioned in that pioneering work is fully confirmed by a whole variety of documentary sources coming from the two different camps in question. Because of the organizational chaos that reigned in the Chekas, there are still gaps in this information regarding the exact number of people who died in the massacres, although we can be fairly certain of the number of massacres that took place. Using these various sources, one can attempt at least to list them in order of size. …..

This chapter lists dozens of accounts of massacres, forced starvation, forced labour etc. A ghastly regime, truly ghastly.
Factoid: (bevin says it was worse under the Tzars when most peasants owned land):
Executions under the Tzar from 1825 – 1917: 6,321 (many of which were commuted to hard labour)
Executions (estimated) under Jewish-Bolsheviks September – October 1918 alone: 10-15,000.
Double or more in two months the previous 90 years. Ghastly regime. And that was just the beginning. It got much worse later on….
Again, I have zero interest in the communism versus capitalism debate. My concern is that the same sort of injustice and savagery isn’t coming soon to our own countries, threatening the lives of ourselves and our loved ones. What was visited upon the Russians back then was unimaginable to them, just as it is unimaginable to us, though all too familiar to Palestinians whom our tax dollars help murder every day. Evil is as evil does. We all need to wake up to these lessons from history before it is too late.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 0:10 utc | 338

It can be, although i have no personal experience with this, that after some “medical procedures” one must take various drugs to heal which can then make one groggy or foggy. And there is always a need for much sleep to give the body time to heal.
So, i am thinking, b is probably in recovery, healing, and needs much sleep and rest.
B leaving the whiskey bar open for us after he returned from i assume an anesthesia procedure (closing it for that duration only) means that it is now on us to carry on. I recall that when attending third year gymnasium in Denmark, the teachers went on strike. We students decided to carried on with classes the best we could in the interim. Something like that.
Perhaps somebody has a brilliant OP to offer up for discussion?
I wish b a full and gentle recovery, free from worries.
~~
Freedom of Speech Ends Where True Power Begins
by Jorge Majfud
April 27, 2024
Excerpt:

…Until a few years before, the harsh anti-imperialist criticisms of writers and activists like Mark Twain were demonized, but there was no need to tarnish the reputation of a free society by putting a renowned intellectual in jail, as they had done in 1846 with David Thoreau for his criticism to the aggression and dispossession of Mexico to expand slavery, under the perfect excuse of not paying taxes. Neither Twain nor the majority of public critics managed to change any policy or reverse any imperialist aggression in the West, as they were read by a minority outside of economic and financial power. In that aspect, modern propaganda had no competition, therefore direct censorship of these critics would have hindered their efforts to sell aggression in the name of freedom and democracy. On the contrary, critics served to support that idea, whereby the largest and most brutal empires of the Modern Era were proud democracies, not discredited dictatorships…

Posted by: suzan | Apr 30 2024 0:27 utc | 339

@ suzan | Apr 30 2024 0:27 utc | 339 asking for “good” discussions while b is convalescing….thanks
I keep wanting barflies to discuss the various details about things like food, housing, health care, education, communication, transportation, ??? in a world where the God Of Mammon is no longer in the driver seat…..in a world where we continually redefine the common good.
I have asked here before, what are the basics that humans should expect from government and what are humans responsibilities toward serving the people through the government as the “balance” to social safety net provided.
IMO, we should be defining the world we want our children to grow up in.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 30 2024 1:09 utc | 340

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 29 2024 13:41 utc | 279
Thank you, persiflo. We are, of course, all deeply worried for b, and it becomes less a selfish wish that his site here continue to be a balanced source of so many different aspects of life that he managed so well. More now, we just wish him safety and health, and ask that if friends or family chance upon us here, they can let us know what is happening.
Persiflo, I don’t have a concept of icons that suggests magical powers, but rather in times of personal stress when prayers did not seem sufficient (particularly when I feared for a loved one’s safety) to work on the black and white pattern of a bishop’s robe without losing my way somehow always would get me through the not-knowing waitful anxiety. Such patterns are found in particular for the icon of Saint Nicholas, so I think that is why they developed that way. He’s an important saint, helpwise.
I didn’t begin icon painting of course, until I’d decided I was Orthodox, and I’d say my efforts are primitive at best- I’m not a great artist. I love the technique and the rules that go with it; they free me somehow. And I did it commercially for a while, was quite successful. But now I don’t sell my paintings,just do them as a legacy for my kids.
Well, it is the beginning of Holy Week. I will go look for one of the hymns I wanted to post here.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 30 2024 1:18 utc | 341

Here is the chant in its simplest form which is sung this evening. And here is the translation of the hymn, or Bridegroom troparion with a very simple little church in the video I’ve found, very like my own small church:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ixxRg1c3Y
Your Bridal Hall
I behold, my Savior, made lovely
But a garment I lack
To enter therein.
Make radiant the vesture,
The vesture of my soul
O, Life Giver,
And save, and save me.

I will attempt to find the melody we were learning to sing in my small church. Apologies if I cannot; it is based on the old chant, so this is a good beginning.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 30 2024 1:44 utc | 342

@the pessimist | Apr 29 2024 23:15 utc | 333 & 335
Awesome; thanks so much for posting those links.

Posted by: robjira | Apr 30 2024 1:44 utc | 343

Tucker Carlson releases a relatively brief chat with Alexander Dugin in Moscow. Why is the West seemingly destroying itself?
Alexander gives his explanations… 21 minutes..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIULmTprQ6o
==============================================================
Icons: in the Yijing world Image is regarded as different from concept or thought. A different layer of cognition/intelligence.
Icons – it seems to me – are Images which connect to Sacred World, to Heart. Some sort of Symbol beyond Thought.
All forms in the world have shapes which express their nature: clouds, leaves, flowers, animals, our faces, bodies which provide a layer of meaningfulness above and beyond the physical plane alone and thus similar to Symbol, in this case living, self-existing symbol.
In Tibetan Buddhism, Mahamudra – a level of enlightenment – means Great (Maha) Symbol/Gesture (Mudra). Everything is a symbol of its own inherent (and Great, meaning beyond petty or selfish) meaning as expressed by its Form which exists also on the level of Image – again, leaf, cloud, animal etc. Perhaps we could say that everything is an iconic symbol of its own essential nature.
This is a non-material level of experienced reality, yes, but on that is also immediate, vivid and ever-present. If you care to notice.
Tuning into this continuous layer of meaningfulness is part of any self-aware culture, or civilization, with enlightening mores which promote meaningful, virtuous lives for all its extended family members.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 1:51 utc | 344

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 29 2024 16:24 utc | 296
Thanks for picking up on my comment. It seems a very small contingent here are concerned about b’s situation.
It’s Tuesday 10 am here, UTC+ 8 hours and the site is still dormant 5 days on.
As for my discourse on the H I am reluctant to give any more than I said before, that it looks at the pure and the industrial chemistry, much of which has been published before, and which reversed my previous understanding. I don’t want to get into setting up a web site but if someone in a safe publishing location wants to cast an eye over it I’d be happy to oblige. Currently I am loafing on the island of Palawan, a couple of hundred kilometres east of the shoal where the US is winding the Philippines up to be the proxy successor to Ukraine. It was written to be not too long to put into an MoA discussion but when back in China I’d do a bit more work on it to flesh it out.

Posted by: Walt | Apr 30 2024 2:08 utc | 345

I have found it! My apologies — the first chant I gave you is the early hymn for the evening service, very beautiful but not the lyrics I posted. But here it is, exactly as we practised it in eight part harmony – I will give the lyrics again in English below the link, which is to the St. Petersburg chorale and was composed by Chesnokov:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8VVdEK1y4Q
This is the exapostilarion, or troparion coming as the concluding hymn of dismissal, in this case for the Matins service during Holy Week:
Your Bridal Hall
I behold, my Savior, made lovely
But a garment I lack
to enter there.
Make radiant the vesture
The vesture of my soul,
O Light Giver
And save, and save me.

Apologies for my mistakes. It is as the Giver of Light that the hymn addresses Christ. I am so glad to have found it!

Posted by: juliania | Apr 30 2024 2:17 utc | 346

robjira@343
It is an awesome effort. I suspect that within 5 years they may succeed in reading most of the 800 they have. It will be amazing to see the contents of an intact library from that era. More interesting than the dead sea scrolls I think, much wider variety of subjects.

Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 30 2024 2:22 utc | 347

Still no word from/about our host. Hard to believe no one that posts here has any direct contact. Hoping he is safe and well.

Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 30 2024 2:25 utc | 348

Below is the title to a ZH posting that continues to set the stage for blaming China consumers for the rise in gold prices
“The Only Safe Asset” – Chinese Consumers Overtake India In Gold-Buying Frenzy
the quote

Now, a few months later, we get confirmation as The South China Morning Post reports that consumers in China bought 308.9 tonnes (10.9 million ounces) of gold in the first quarter, representing a 5.9% increase compared to the same period in 2023.

I just checked and gold price is up almost 13 percent YTD so China consumers being the driver is hogwash….in spite of the tonnes to price increase comparison which some may think is stretching facts a bit….grin

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 30 2024 2:37 utc | 349

@juliania. Thanks for that clip. Am downloading some of Chesnokov’s work on youtube. It seems he came from a beautiful world that was hated by the progressives who banned sacred music and starved him to death. To this day most modern states find sacredness anathema, and thus also that which is deepest and finest in human nature. Dark times….
[wikipedia:]

At an early age, Chesnokov gained recognition as a great conductor and choirmaster while leading many groups including the Russian Choral Society Choir. This reputation earned him a position on staff at the Moscow Conservatory where great composers and music scholars like Tchaikovsky had shared their skills and musical insight. There he founded a choral conducting program, which he taught from 1920 until his death.
By the age of 30, Chesnokov had completed nearly four hundred sacred choral works, but his proliferation of church music came to a standstill at the time of the Russian revolution. Under communist rule, no one was permitted to produce any form of sacred art. So in response, he composed an additional hundred secular works, and conducted secular choirs like the Moscow Academy Choir and the Bolshoi Theatre Choir. In the Soviet era religion was often under oppression. The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour,[1] whose last choirmaster had been Chesnokov, was destroyed, which disturbed him so deeply that he stopped writing music altogether.
He died on 14 March 1944 of a heart attack caused by malnutrition while he was waiting in a Moscow bread line.[2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebNTguk0Vmk
Funeral Service

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 2:45 utc | 350

Sakineh Bagoom@334……Mammonexia, if it ain’t a word, it is now.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 30 2024 2:56 utc | 351

smuks@332…..gold backed? Like real money….back in the fifties, the good old days with double digit interest earned where money on deposit could double in a matter of months…..dust in the wind these days.
Cheers M
….of course real estate holds similar value and appreciation to gold, requires no digging or processing and thieves only come in the form of tax collectors (hmm, squatters too I suppose) it also can be used as collateral for future goods, see; the Ukraine. I’m sure a hectare of 404, great black earth and all, gotta be worth at least two ACTMs and half a box of RPGs.
S’cuse the riffin, been that kinda day.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 30 2024 3:16 utc | 352

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 2:45 utc | 350
Thank you, scorpion! I did not know anything of his life – his name is Paul. We sang much of his music – the Cherubim hymn is another beautiful composition. Our church was small and very humble but it was the loveliest church I have ever been in. I bet you would have loved it.
Our priest was from a family that had to leave Russia, and as I’ve mentioned before, from Paris as a student at the Sorbonne he was sent to a prison camp outside Dresden. He was there when it was firebombed, in the Orthodox cathedral basement. Dresden was liberated by the Russian army. He was asked what he had been studying – when he answered “theology” expecting he might be shot, (his uncle in the gulag had been) the soldier heard “geology”. That’s enough miracle for me.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 30 2024 3:31 utc | 353

Sakineh Bagoom@334……Mammonexia, if it ain’t a word, it is now.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 30 2024 2:56 utc | 351
Chuckles, sean. We should ask ph what he thinks of it, g-d of mammon and all.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 30 2024 3:31 utc | 354

@327 Definitely not far right.
Closer to humanities, spritual right in the sense of decency or moral and inclusive across the board in that sense.
I think it is hard for some to understand an open forum, and when they find comments that displease them for whatever reason they automatically assume the site encourages and is geared towards those.
Personally I attribute only the qualities that are penned by any individual, b included.
Not only is b placed at center of EU, Ukraine, “Israel” and US controversy in terms of the topics he writes about, but also Germany is itself at center of various laws governing speech. Even in the US there is a long legal discussion on who is responsible for what commentators post.
Though there is format and duty to meet whatever legal requirements, that is besides the point – in UK if I remember it was moving towards proving someone other than site owner made a comment, which would not only mean registry and tracking of participants but also would assume the site owner was guilty until proven innocent.
So it is not surprising that some readers or commentators already hold that kind of view.
@344
Certainly. I would relate my own experiences but you know that only invites ridicule or unwanted attention. Given the circumstance though, I will relate one.
This was in the middle-east, I returned days early to where friends offered me accomodation, and they had left on holiday. I knew no-one else so decided I would just “camp” at the top of the appartment block stairs till their return. It was ok, had waited in much more difficult settings before.
But.
I had a sense of being bothered, like a presence. Never experienced something quite like that before, and it was very unpleasant, like anger towards me but always just out of sight. So eventually I decide there was something odd up (with me or the place etc.) and I go for a long long walk to shake off whatever.
A car pulls up… “Can we help you at all ?” (and I was not acting odd or dressed odd or anything like that :-/) . “Well” I say , “I have been feeling like I have some kind of unwanted attention !? ” . The conversation started straight and open just like that. “We will take you to the church” they say.
Though my background is Christian (just plain if you like) , I am not the devout religious kind going to church and so on, and generally tend to skirt most kinds of organisation if possible. So they present me to the head of the church (vicar, bishop … I don’t know) and I explain briefly and he says “We will pray for you” and then I am driven back to near where I was staying, and head back up to the top of the stairs to sleep. So I’m just sitting there thinking ‘hmm’ and feeling about the same and “not expecting anything in particular but that was well meaning of them” , and then my whole vision lights up , displacing whatever was troubling, accompanied by a vision.
So since then I still don’t go to church services or anything 🙂 , but I like just visiting churches when they are open to public. Of other religions also.
Just an anecdote that seemed fitting to what you posted, and am definitely not trying to encourage any religious direction – I am wary as anyone else about placing trust in any religious organisation or obligation. I think being good and honest to those around is just as meaningful.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 30 2024 3:39 utc | 355

@ Mammonexia, if it ain’t a word, it is now.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 30 2024 2:56 utc | 351 in response to
Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 29 2024 23:20 utc | 334 who shared Karlof1’s pleonexia
and wondering what I thought….
I like it but it sounds like an ugly boil that needs treatment bigggly.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 30 2024 4:08 utc | 356

@ KMRIA | Apr 29 2024 21:41 utc | 327
that was a mis-characterization by stephen johnson… he does that a lot.. if you are at this site long enough, you’ll get to learn that the comments reflect the person much more then they do who they are talking about.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Apr 30 2024 4:13 utc | 357

Re Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 29 2024 19:25 utc | 307
I was interested to read your post because as a born english speaker I relax in the category of only speaking in that language. On the few instances where I’ve been in a francophone community where there is an understandable reluctance by french speakers to show they may comprehend english, I have got by on my schoolboy french. The only other language I learned was latin which hinders almost as much as it helps in other nations who use a romance language such as Italian or Spanish, so I generally force myself to re-learn numbers, articles and whatever else I cannot gesticulate out, same as with any other language. It is a great pity because many of the languages of south east asia are logical languages not like english which as you point out can seem irrational to a non english as a first language speaker. Bahasa the language President Sukarno introduced to Indonesia at independence so that everyone had a common language but one that wasn’t native anywhere in the archipelago is a good example of this.
In other words this is one area where I am content to exploit the fact the sole language I know is the language of colonialism. However there is one of your statements which contests with what I learned when first studying english at secondary school. Much of that stuff is wrong or obsolete but one of my first english master’s tenets has proved imo, to be correct.
That is while english has an almost infinitely large vocabulary which is evolving continuously, no two words mean exactly the same thing. Many words are interchangeable in a general sense however specifically they are not – most frequently the difference in meaning is down to nuance but still no two words are identical.
For many of us this is an irrelevance but on the other hand these differences have much to do with the reality that poetry was the only art form where englanders surpassed their european contemporaries and why it was a celebrated art form in its time.
Even now there are still a few exponents of this in popular music where some current music has lyrics are pure poetry and the lines don’t even rhyme lol.
Over the years I have come across words which appear to have exactly the same meaning but on close examination learned that in fact they don’t. That old english rule still stands up.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 30 2024 4:14 utc | 358

@ juliania | Apr 30 2024 2:17 utc | 346
nice bit of music.. thanks…
————
icons… they are symbols.. astrology is all about symbols too… people respond to symbols in countless different ways and that goes back to them and the possibilities they see or don’t… will have to check out that carlson interview..

Posted by: james | Apr 30 2024 4:20 utc | 359

@Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 29 2024 21:20 utc | 324
You make the same mistake as the Zionists do, of mixing up a religion with ethnicity plus some outright misrepresentation. Also, of course the same approach as the Nazis.
Lenin’s maternal grandfather was a Jew who married a Christian, the other side of his family was not Jewish. So even by the Nazi standard you only get 1/4 Jew, but in reality he would not be considered Jewish by the Jews themselves or other Russians. And of course, he was an atheist.
Stalin was born to an Orthodox Christian family, he was an atheist
Trotsky was born into a Jewish family, he was completely non-observant and an atheist
Who led the Communist Party? That would be Lenin and then Stalin until the 1950s. It is sad in a blog that has so many great contributors I have to read such anti-semitic bullshit. Especially BS started by the Nazis.
Khrushchev also was not Jewish, neither was Brezhnev.

Posted by: Roger | Apr 30 2024 4:27 utc | 360

@Posted by: smuks | Apr 29 2024 23:04 utc | 332
So you accept that the Central Bank can actually cancel the government debt, its just that you consider that such a cancellation would be inflationary / undermine the currency. So it was never an absolute no, it was a no based on your opinion of the negative effects. A very traditional mainstream economic opinion. One that is pretty irrelevant in the age of mass QE and government debt that will never be paid back.
If there is spare capacity in the economy, or the extra money is used to fund new productive assets (by the state itself, or through state development banks) then it would not be inflationary. The state also has the ability to implement capital controls, as many of the successful development states did/have. The state can also use taxes to manage inflationary effects. You use the classic capitalist aspersion of the “reckless” state that must be controlled by the creditors; which is directly at odds with the success of state managed development in such examples as Japan, South Korea, the Soviet Union and China. Many of the purveyors of MMT have actually thought quite fully of such issues.
The “mainstream” economics can and will always be broken by governments dominated by a capitalist ruling class when it benefits that class, as with the Roosevelt’s massive devaluation of gold in the 1930s, or the massive QE of the post-GFC period. That the FT is floating the possibility of central bank debt cancellation tells us that that is also on the table to bail out the capitalist ruling class. Mainstream economics is a pale intentionally disabled version of political economy, where political decisions are treated as “technical details”.

Posted by: Roger | Apr 30 2024 4:54 utc | 361

@ Roger | Apr 30 2024 4:54 utc | 361 who wrote

Mainstream economics is a pale intentionally disabled version of political economy, where political decisions are treated as “technical details”.

Agreed!
Hey smuks! Who owns the Central Banks? You know they are not all sovereign, correct?…..its more like the Central Banks are all owned/controlled by private interests over public.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 30 2024 5:06 utc | 362

scorpion | Apr 30 2024 0:10 utc | 338
Most of this is nonsense: The Black Book is a bad joke, the lowest kind of anti-communist propaganda.
You seem to spend much of your time reading neo-nazi propaganda on the internet.
As to land ownership in Russia- why do you imagine that the slogan “Bread, Peace and Land” was so popular? The peasants did not “own” the land they paid large rents by way of compensation to the aristocrats who used to own them as well as the land until Alexander II’s emancipation in 1861.
They also lost their share of the communal land taken out of the mir and given in freehold to the aristocrats. They saw this land, which they continued to cultivate, as having been taken from them.
Only a White Russian propagandist could contrast the position in which the peasants found themselves in 1924 unfavourably with that under the Tsar.
Do you imagine that the Reds would have won the civil war if they were in fact expropriating the great mass of the population?
As to the nonsense, to which Roger refers above, of insisting- it is almost a mania in your case- that the Bolsheviks were Jewish it is just another piece of evidence that you have been seduced by neo-nazi propaganda. The claim is false. Although it is true that, for reasons which should be obvious, there were many who, like Bronstein, came from jewish backgrounds to play roles in the revolutionary parties.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 30 2024 5:11 utc | 363

@Posted by: smuks | Apr 29 2024 22:08 utc | 329
China’s carbon emissions will most probably peak this year and start to decline, due to the massive amounts of wind, solar, nuclear, hydro added in the past years and the rapid growth in electrified transport (not just personal EVs, but electric trains, trams, subways, buses, taxis and delivery vans). That will not be for GHG emissions overall, given the fugitive methane emissions of natural gas (worse than coal for total GHGs when using fracked gas, coal bed methane etc.), but its still a huge achievement. Chinese installed solar capacity increased over 50% in 2023, as installations increased by 250% year over year. Wind installations were up 66% year over year. Nuclear already accounts for 5% of Chinese electricity generation. China has gone well past the clean air issues (actually predominantly fixed already with scrubbers etc.) and just providing enough electricity, its moved on to the domination of the green economy and becoming the shining example of that.
To reduce carbon emissions the energy system must be electrified extensively. Making the electricity supply less carbon intensive will not hack it if the rest of the energy system keeps using fossil fuels. Thats why the lack of the ability of wind and solar to grow fast enough to stop increases in fossil fuel usage is the core problem, its overall emissions that count. That’s why the move to electrified transport, electrified space heating etc. is so important. “Green” hydrogen is just another game used by the fossil fuel industry. Same as the Carbon Capture and Storage boondoggle. Pumped storage is a useful factor, but nowhere near a large enough resource to provide the “big battery”.
Planning to introduce solid state batteries in a limited fashion at a given date is not the equivalent of reaching mainstream cost competitiveness. All of the big Chinese manufacturers are also driving solid state and semi solid state development. Also, 6 years is a lifetime in an industry moving as fast as EVs. The Japanese (and German) manufacturers will have lost their remaining Chinese market share by then and the Chinese will most probably be dominant in the world outside the West, with a significant share of Europe. The US may well have fully walled itself off by then with respect to EVs.

Posted by: Roger | Apr 30 2024 5:23 utc | 364

Oh f*ck this. That scorpion creature who I usually block on the ground of psuedo-intellectualism as well as a tendency to make sweeping statements combined with little or no sources is persisting in dubbing USSR’s bolsheviks as ‘jewish bolsheviks’ (I was stuck somewhere this afternoon and only had my phone which I haven’t yet installed a MoA script on) so I would like to see him provide credible and therefore checkable sources for that incorrect generalisation. Not quotes from politically motivated contemporary opponents such as he has attempted to use to claim that the October revolution was unnecessarily bloody but contemporary sources who can be taken to be objective because they had no axe to grind when they spoke/wrote.
I suggest scorpion begin by providing lists of the leaders of the revolution which show a preponderance of Jews. In another thread here I listed all members of the Party’s Politiburo during and immediately after the revolution, then went through the names to show that the preponderance of Jews was little higher than it was in the population at around 10% but perhaps scorpion has the names & religion of people who somehow controlled the aims & objectives of the Bolsheviks secretly. I shall wait with bated breath as it would certainly shock historians who study the revolution.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 30 2024 5:37 utc | 365

@Roger | Apr 30 2024 4:54 utc | 361

Mainstream economics is a pale intentionally disabled version of political economy, where political decisions are treated as “technical details”.

Yes, and political decisions hide behind ‘science’ in the same way.
I really worry about b and the future of MoA.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 30 2024 6:12 utc | 366

https://twitter.com/MoonofA
Posted by: Father Dougal | Apr 29 2024 21:29 utc | 326

Thanks for the link to b’s Twitter page. I’m not a subscriber but I did browse the first dozen or so entries as a visitor to guage the tone. Suffice to say that b and Germany.gov are definitely NOT on the same page. Bless his heart…
On b’s Health issues, I can state from personal experience that my 4 heart-control drugs interfere with one’s ability to think clearly. The ill-effects come and go. But one is aware that it’s happening. Two of the medications warn that they can cause Brain Fog which may render the patient unfit to drive a motor vehicle, which is ironic because I’m blackmailed into taking them to make me a safer driver!. The medications also warn against consuming certain food groups and foods containing certain chemicals > Potassium.
This is not an exhaustive list of negative side-effects. If b is taking these meds it will take him at least a week to get a handle on dealing with them.
^ Hopefully it’s irrelevant to b.^

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 30 2024 6:32 utc | 367

I really worry about b and the future of MoA.
@ Norwegian | Apr 30 2024 6:12 utc | 366

It’s gotten to the point where coherent explanations of what’s going on here, with b’s long absence, are getting more difficult to imagine. I really worry about the future of us. Were PTB to have something ready to splash over the headlines, some atrocity we’re to blame on “them,” part of their careful preparations might be to squash sites like MoA, for a better stranglehold on information-streams, when things start happening fast. This awful hunch of mine is something I want proven wrong ASAP.
But if I’m right, I feel honored to have traveled this far with you-all. I’ve only been here a couple of years, but right away I could tell this is (was?) an incomparable online community. To bartender b and all the barflies: warmest thanks for everything! It could be goodbye this time; and if it’s goodbye to MoA, then likely some other chapters are also closing.
Take care, dear ones. Savor each moment remaining to you on what is, without question and despite all flaws, the most beautiful planet in the universe.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 30 2024 6:47 utc | 368

This popped up today, The 30 April.
“Palestinian students at Otto von Guericke University in Magdeburg, Germany received an email from the school that they’ve been recategorized as “stateless” due to governmental “changes in the statistical requirements.”
Germany no longer recognizes Palestinian as a nationality.

The reason I put it in this thread is that MoA generally supports a solution in Gaza and Palestine (All of it) that give some rights to the people. By declaring them “stateless” they become just another number in the millions of “refugees”, with no right of return.
ie this is a declaration by beaureaucratic dictat, of an effective “genocide”, the destruction of an entire people in Germany.
****
So this comment by Aleph_Null | Apr 30 2024 6:47 utc | 368 “part of their careful preparations might be to squash sites like MoA, for a better stranglehold on information-streams, when things start happening fast. This awful hunch of mine is something I want proven wrong ASAP.” Would suggest that “b” has fallen foul of the German thought police, rather than a medical crisis. On Twitter his last post was on the 25th April.
If this Official German policy is generalized, and experience suggests that EU and UKUS are coordinated, it explains the brutality against protestors as trying to eliminate any form of support, or legal basis for return or even their own Government.
If Palestinians become “stateless” then there is no “Genocide” of a people?

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 30 2024 8:06 utc | 369

If it’s neither off-topic, irrelevant or in poor taste (even for an open thread), the discussion of the fate of B and MoA has me thinking of a dream I had at least a week ago where, in that dream’s universe, MoA had a thread that started before 9/11 and continued to the present day.
Has anyone else had weird MoA-related dreams?

Posted by: joey_n | Apr 30 2024 8:06 utc | 370

Iran Observer
@IranObserver0
·
1h
⚡️BREAKING
There has been a major breakthrough between Saudi Arabia and Iran
Saudi has accepted all economic proposals made by Iran and stressed developing a roadmap for economic cooperation and expediting its implementation ‐ Iran’s economy minister
https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1785195168640967044

Posted by: Menz | Apr 30 2024 8:21 utc | 371

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 29 2024 20:55 utc | 319
Posted by: Palm & Needle | Apr 29 2024 21:09 utc | 320
About the lying ideological Extreme FASCIST Propaganda of scorpion@314 … this time only lying about “evil jewish bolsheviks” during the Revolution
The rule “don’t feed the Trolls” fits, but scorpion is more than a mere troll.
He is Toxic to all human minds. Avoid him like the plague. I many others have him on Block permanently.
If I was B I would Ban him from this place forever. The guy is sick and demented and torturous.
Undoubtedly the worst most deviate insidious person on this forum bar none.
But it’s only my opinion. You may see it differently. If so, don’t bother telling me about it. Not interested. Anyone who engages with him positively usually ends up in block lists as well. Birds of a feather iow ….

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 30 2024 8:36 utc | 372

Iran Observer
@IranObserver0
⚡️BREAKING
Zimbabwe, which is under sanctions from the West, is going to purchase Iranian weaponry
https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1784963394044309594

Posted by: Menz | Apr 30 2024 8:48 utc | 373

Greg Price
@greg_price11
The White House Correspondents Dinner did a whole presentation on wrongfully detained journalists around the world.
There was no mention of Julian Assange.
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1784410531815625004

Posted by: Menz | Apr 30 2024 8:48 utc | 374

@ Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 30 2024 8:36 utc | 372
“ But it’s only my opinion. You may see it differently. If so, don’t bother telling me about it. Not interested. Anyone who engages with him positively usually ends up in block lists as well. Birds of a feather iow …. “
With you about your opinion and engaging with what may be trolls in your assessment or others – but totally against the self blinkering. Have been right from the start. It is at best head in the sand – at worst it is witch burning .
Who put you in charge of censoring? Did b approve it ever? I doubt it.
It whiffs of sheep-dogging, gatekeeping …call it what you want, it is self moderation and actually protects trolls! They also can use the same scripts.
It gives them the same excuse of reading genuine criticism of themselves by use of such self blinkering scripts… which also stops genuine readers who buy into the subtle self censoring mechanism that will inevitably also add genuine human opinions to the censored list that they may not be palatable, or you or anyone else here telling them are worth censoring!
It’s a double edged thing innit? Who censors the censors? Etc
The only winning strategy is to NOT play the censor game. I urge everyone to throw out your blinkers and demand that anyone using them find other traditional ways of ignoring opinions they don’t like – the Nelsonian Eye of the Script is Not the Bot you should be looking for or need. And always always be nagged with those who choose to pick a conversation with you – even if it is a polite finger.
The Animals looked through the window and looked at the censors and then the censored … both on their hind legs, baying … censorious ..
But, it’s only MY OPINION….

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 30 2024 9:58 utc | 375

_____ _____
/ \ ____ ____ ____ _____/ ____\
/ \ / \ / _ \ / _ \ / \ / _ \ __\
/ Y ( <_> | <_> ) | \ ( <_> ) |
\____|____/\____/ \____/|___|__/ \____/|__|
_____ __ ___
/ _ \ | | _____ \_ |__ _____ _____ _____
/ /_\ \| | \__ \ | __ \\__ \ / \\__ \
/ | \ |__/ __ \| \_\ \/ __ \| Y Y \/ __ \
\____|____/____(______|_____(_____/|__|_|__(_____/
b’s worst fear some good old fashion vandalism/graffiti.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Apr 30 2024 11:29 utc | 376

“FireChat was a tool for revolution. Then it disappeared.”
https://www.fromjason.xyz/p/notebook/firechat-was-a-tool-for-revolution-then-it-disappeared/
Read the article and then use that gray matter: A “[useful] tool for revolution” until COVID-19 came along.

Posted by: trinity | Apr 30 2024 11:36 utc | 377

Aw it didn’t format it right.
https://imgur.com/a/ZS70ZT7

Posted by: Rhymerez | Apr 30 2024 11:37 utc | 378

Voting in democracy is like pushing on a string.

Posted by: Passerby | Apr 30 2024 11:49 utc | 379

“About the lying ideological Extreme FASCIST Propaganda of scorpion@314 … this time only lying about “evil jewish bolsheviks” during the Revolution
The rule “don’t feed the Trolls” fits, but scorpion is more than a mere troll.
He is Toxic to all human minds. Avoid him like the plague. I many others have him on Block permanently.
If I was B I would Ban him from this place forever. The guy is sick and demented and torturous…”
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Apr 30 2024 8:36 utc | 372
Who died and made you God?
If you believe that 1917 ‘evil Jewish Bolsheviks’ were just propaganda and, that in reality, they were Angels that never hurt anybody, ever, then make an argument to support your idea[ Lavrov believes that insane shit? editor] rather then illustrate the paucity of your intellectual arguments and your emotional intemperance..
I don’t always agree with Scorpion but saying that ‘he is sick and demented’ is more telling about your unbalanced nature than his.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 30 2024 12:08 utc | 380

A couple of remarks from me.
I live in the same city as b. So I wrote him an email to offer him assistance, in representing mine and the forum’s sentiments. He didn’t reply. Unless he or some trustee provides information on the forum, there’s not a lot we can do; filing him as missing person with the police is one option, scanning obituaries is another, and a third may be to try and find his doorbell – I’d rather avoid this, but then I tend to (sometimes badly) misjudge these kinds of situations, so what does MoA think? Should we get him a basket full of our well-wishings, perhaps? Some people here should have his postal address, I’d be happy to do the groundwork, though I do fear the impression of troll-stalking him literally into his sleep.
Some float a scenario that has german state authority de-orbit the whiskey bar. In my view, this is unlikely. Formally stopping the platform didn’t happen, so there are no hints of the legal measures with which the hardcore denialists are usually targeted. Swallowing a place like this wholesale into a black hole, including the publican, is unheard of to this commenter from Germany.
On contingency planning, Which is always a sensible thought, I’d like to put forth two things.
One is that the MoA archives are an extraordinarily valuable document for future historical research; they must be archived by all means. How best to do so, I don’t know. Perhaps the IT folks do; IIRC David Horsman said something to this regard earlier? I also pointed this out to b here many years ago, comparing him with Friedrich Kellner.
The other one is that MoA is a most interesting place for the community, not just the heading blog entries and general provision by b. When b some day will retire for good, it would be sad to have us all simply dissapearing into space again. Two options stand out to me to prevent this fate:
One is, as suggested by psychohistorian, to transfer ownership of the whiskey bar to a trusted barfly, such as Karlof1 – I would support this. Or maybe some does a clone of this moon somewhere else in cyberspace, much like b had himself done when the first and original Whiskey Bar (run by Billmon way before my time) closed its comments section. To the comnment section itself: I have long been convinced that the straightforward design is the magic ingredient that fuses all the other contents into the wonderously sparkling delight that has captivated many here, me included. What it does is, it keeps superficial readers away, who I suspect may also happen to be idiots to some degree; and of those who really dig into the threads, only a fraction goes yet one more step and engages in discussion for real. What’s more, this tendency is self-reinforcing, as the high intensity of discussion attracts ever more density. This process has been visible for quite a while now, and so far the bar has absorbed all its losses of outstanding contributors quite well (that’s my impression of course).
Since we’re also doing philosophy and even theology now, MoA is one beast of a forum; though I’ll be on the record that future philosophizzeling by this commenter at least will try to reduce topical volume down a bit again, as I feel the community is served best with this in a supporting role. However, it doesn’t hurt much to go in bigly at first, to lay out a wide and stable foundation on which later arguments can run smoothly. That takes a lot of time and effort initially, but let me say thank you to everyone here, it’s very rewarding and a pleasure working with you all. —
If, however, the Moon of Alabama has to be abandoned sometime in the future, we might get the chance to emigrate for other destinations, perhaps not too far away. Seeing how well Karlof1’s substack works in conjunction with this forum, partly as means to take up his prolific output, I floated my philosophers’ corner partly to relieve threads from the notorius specialist talk, but also to introduce another satellite into an orbit around the Whiskey Bar. The concept is, I think, very natural: build offshoots to dig deeper into specialist interests, but keep in touch with main the main branch and report all relevant proceedings there. Such a layout is inherently more redundant than a single venue ever could be. Perhaps we’ll see other satellites going up in the future.
Other replies I intend to make on upthread topics will have to wait a bit more. Later tonight I’ll be at a jam session in Trautonia Capra’s Villa St.Allien, stock full of dusty synthesizers and other gear. Yesterday’s soundcheck and decorating of the place was very good, it sounded like calling the alien operator in a long immersive trancy ritual, until we got a reply … I joked it was the weather forecast; we’ll see to it again later.
Here’s a track by Robert Henke, who co-deleoped the da facto standard audio production software (DAW) of contemporary electronic music, Ableton live, before he felt ready to start composing. To me, this track sounds like an alien might feel coming to after crash landing his UFO on friggin’ Terra following a collision on the Interstellar-95 lane.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 30 2024 12:13 utc | 381

“This chapter lists dozens of accounts of massacres, forced starvation, forced labour etc. A ghastly regime, truly ghastly.
Factoid: (bevin says it was worse under the Tzars when most peasants owned land):
Executions under the Tzar from 1825 – 1917: 6,321 (many of which were commuted to hard labour)
Executions (estimated) under Jewish-Bolsheviks September – October 1918 alone: 10-15,000.
Double or more in two months the previous 90 years. Ghastly regime. And that was just the beginning. It got much worse later on….”
Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 0:10 utc | 338
Thank you for the reality check.
The Marxists can’t make their points using historical facts. Instead they use personal invective and Karen like ‘wiling and moaning’ to assail posters.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 30 2024 12:14 utc | 382

“..Marxists can’t make their points using historical facts. Instead they use personal invective and Karen like ‘wiling (sic) and moaning’ to assail posters…”
Suspending for a moment the rule that trolls, especially malicious self directed trolls of the ‘cancuck’ kind, ought not to be fed I will point out that the historical fact is that the peasants did not own land under the Tsars and lose it in the revolution.
The contrary is the case: under the Tsars the peasants not only did not own the land, they did not own themselves. After the “Emancipation” decree of 1861 they were given the right to buy a portion of the lands that they had previously cultivated, collectively, for their ‘owners’.
The terms of their purchase were extremely onerous and by 1917 few peasants actually owned the plots they worked in the ‘mirs.’
The peasants were mobilised for revolution in large part because they were urged, by the Bolsheviks and other revolutionary parties, to sieze the land of the former serf owners, add it to their holdings, thereby restoring the pre-1861 mirs, and cultivate their property.
In other words Scorpion, who is simply warming up the grievances of the aristocracy whose land the peasants siezed, is completely wrong. And misses the point that the revolution became popular and earned the support of the peasants in large part because, like the French Revolution before it, it restored ownership of the land to the cultivator.
Unless this is understood the course of the Civil war and the successive victories of the Red Army are hard to understand.
I explained most of this in 363 above- it is simply a measure of ‘canuck”s utter dishonesty that he not only ignores the reply that I made to scorpion but denies that there was a reply.
The truth is that neither of the two knows anything about either the Russian Revolution or the history of that country. Were they to spend less time regurgitating White Russian and Nazi propaganda they would find plenty of opportunities to learn something about the questions involved.
But why bother? Unless one is committed to the truth and respectful of the community upon which one is imposing opinions it is much easier to grab a line or two from Goebbels than to think for oneself.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 30 2024 12:51 utc | 383

@roger and bevin:
OK, let’s zoom out of the ‘Jewish’ tribal quotient of the bolsheviks to simply label nearly all the leaders as ‘freemason’ (which of course was a Jewish-led multinational conspiracy). Feel better? Here is where Stalin was equal to yiddish-speaking Ukrainian Trotsky-Bronstein. Has it not occurred you, bevin, that you have imbibed so much pro-communist partisan perspective yourself that you can only characterize those who are or were against communists in cartoonish, emotive terms, such as labelling it all ‘neo-nazi’? It’s a tell. For yourself. That’s the level of your rebuttal of the Black Book: mud-slinging.
In any case, I hope you are all right. That the communist experiment was sincere, that the reports of mass murder etc. are all false, that no harm was done. I just don’t happen to believe it true. At all.
And no, I won’t be compiling long lists to prove my case. I cited three different books which any so interested can download and evaluate for themselves. This is a whiskey bar where opinions are shared. Yuri Lina also did a documentary: ‘in the shadow of hermes’. Obscure. Warning: mentions freemasonry.
Note: those who confuse their opinions with absolute truth need a reality check – self included.
Or, preferably, another round!!
=======================================================
A whois check shows that Moonofalabama.org is registered in PA, US, not D-land. But the rules are about to change in the US any day now following these demonstrations in some of the leading Jewish-run progressive universities in the US.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 12:55 utc | 384

I would not endorse banishing Scorpion from MoA. He thinks outside the box. If he thinks too far outside the box from time to time it shouldn’t be a crime. If a comment doesn’t please you there’s always the “skip to next comment” option.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 30 2024 13:07 utc | 385

..Marxists can’t make their points using historical facts. Instead they use personal invective and Karen like ‘wailing and moaning’ to assail posters…
Posted by: canuck | Apr 30 2024 12:14 utc | 382
“Suspending for a moment the rule that trolls, especially malicious self directed trolls of the ‘cancuck’ kind…”
Posted by: bevin | Apr 30 2024 12:51 utc | 383
Thank you bevy for so thoroughly confirming my above point about Marxists using ‘personal invective’ rather than cogent arguments to buttress their ideas.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 30 2024 13:08 utc | 386

@bevin
I will defer to your greater knowledge about the peasantry in pre-revolutionary Russia. That said, some of the Red Terror involved the urban-based Central Party waging war against the peasantry, early on demanding they provide unreasonable amounts of their harvest in return for vouchers, essentially starving them. Later, the Five Year Plan’s longer-term vision included replacing most farm workers with machines. This was a modernist, urban, ideology-driven movement. They hated the peasants because they were part of a traditional, god-fearing feudal order they wished to destroy. City proles were their main support.
In Ukraine, peasants who previously had been allowed to own 2-4 animals were no longer allowed any. They relied on them for sustenance. According to some historians, Russian peasants had a higher standard of living than any others in Europe at the time. Life was hard then, which is why the communist revolution was initially appealing. Pity it turned out that the mainly Jewish intellectuals leading it were mendacious psychopaths worse than most Tzars.
I sincerely think you should go deeper in your defence than labelling all contrary views as ‘nazi’. Why don’t you begin from the premise that all sides in the Russian civil war were sincere rather than assuming that all the ‘Whites’ are irredeemably insincere and evil and all the Reds sincere and noble? Then you might get beyond cartoon characterizations unworthy of your admirable intellectual depth.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 13:10 utc | 387

So the fascists of the Anglo European Holy Roman variety with their blood dripping sheep skin Shapeshifting natzionazi disguise are in their deep Bunker, pretending to be a virtual green screened, Garden – as the Red Armies arrive at their doorstep, again.
‘Wide Awake Media (@wideawake_media)
Author of ‘The Great Reset’, Marc Morano, on Klaus Schwab’s plan for humanity: “He’s talking about us essentially giving up national sovereignty, giving up individual freedoms, and turning over rule to experts… This whole agenda is to make it so we have no choice on some of the biggest questions of our lives.” “We didn’t get to vote on whether gas powered cars would be banned, we didn’t vote for vaccine mandates, we didn’t vote for lockdowns, we didn’t vote for banning of meat. But all of this is happening, because at these meetings like the World Economic Forum and the United Nations, they meet and they work with government-corporate collusion to bypass democracy and impose stuff through this corporate government fascism.” ‘
Are they ready to welcome Xi?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 30 2024 13:12 utc | 388

“I will point out that the historical fact is that the peasants did not own land under the Tsars and lose it in the revolution.”
bevy
You are wrong once again:
“The abolition of serfdom happened in two stages. The first stage was emancipation, and it gave freedoms to all serfs. The peasants still had to pay their landlords fixed rent payments, but the landlords could no longer raise these obligations arbitrarily. So, the peasants could work harder and keep their surplus without fearing that the landlord would ask for more next year.
The second stage was a land reform, which took place during the twenty years after emancipation. The reform transferred land rights to peasant communes. Repartition communes redistributed the land among the peasants, whereas hereditary communes allowed peasants to have usage rights of specific land plots in perpetuity, which resulted in more certainty about land rights among peasants.” (1)
1. https://www.aeaweb.org/research/serfdom-abolition-russia-19th-century

Posted by: canuck | Apr 30 2024 13:13 utc | 389

art lifted from b’s x page
https://twitter.com/MoonofA/status/1750184932859625793/photo/1

Posted by: ld | Apr 30 2024 13:28 utc | 390

The tales of ”Bolshevik murder” are precisely the same as stories about the Russian murder in Bucha. That is to say they are fabrications by groups with an extreme interest in discrediting their enemies.
Who is so stupid as to believe the capitalist mass media only recently started spewing jingoistic nonsense? Who is so stupid as to think universities conforming to the preferred narratives of the capitalist elites is something that only started with the gender perversions intended to reduce population growth through spay/neuter of young people?
Fools who claim to have no ideology, and thus just function with the default capitalist one installed in their heads from birth, and profess to be “free thinkers” yet perfectly recite capitalist establishment lies about the capitalist elite’s enemies, are in fact the most brainwashed of all. Pity them, as they have no free will and are only running a program installed in their heads by mass media and commodity education.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 30 2024 13:40 utc | 391

“In Ukraine, peasants who previously had been allowed to own 2-4 animals were no longer allowed any. They relied on them for sustenance. According to some historians, Russian peasants had a higher standard of living than any others in Europe at the time. Life was hard then, which is why the communist revolution was initially appealing. Pity it turned out that the mainly Jewish intellectuals leading it were mendacious psychopaths worse than most Tzars.
I sincerely think you should go deeper in your defence than labelling all contrary views as ‘nazi’. Why don’t you begin from the premise that all sides in the Russian civil war were sincere rather than assuming that all the ‘Whites’ are irredeemably insincere and evil and all the Reds sincere and noble? Then you might get beyond cartoon characterizations unworthy of your admirable intellectual depth.”
Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 13:10 utc | 387
Yes, calling everyone a ‘Nazi’ who doesn’t conform to the Marxist ideology actually injures the Marxist cause as you adroitly pointed out it dooms the ideology to express ‘cartoon characterizations’ of their opposing ideologies.
bevy’s simplistic Manichean characterizations of capitalism (evil always) and communism (good always) ideologies does a discredit to both political ideas as well as further damaging bevy’s credibility.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 30 2024 13:40 utc | 392

@ persiflo | Apr 30 2024 12:13 utc
Persiflo:
It’s highly likely B has health issues. So swing by his place, knock on the door, see if the lights are on, etc.
If he answers the door, your explanation of who you are and why you’re there will gratify him. It’s highly likely that family members are there in attendance if he’s indeed there.
If he’s not there, local hospitals are the place to look. He had an operation, seemed to be recovering, and then something didn’t go as planned, and he needs close-in attention.
The fact that he’s been offline for several days means he’s physically ill right now. There’s no other explanation I can come up with that fits the facts.
Go look. Maybe he wants company, or care, or expressions of appreciation. If he doesn’t, B is quite articulate, and he’ll let you know. The other thing is that it’s quite likely he doesn’t want others to know of his condition/illness. B is a private person, doesn’t like his business in the public realm. So ask if it’s OK to ask about him, if you get the chance to speak to him or his family, and then honor his wishes.
That’ll address the ethics of invading his privacy.
===
Next: what to do about MoA. If B is long-term incapacitated, then a successor has to be found, for all the reasons stated so well by others. What’s needed is:
a. the platform. The server running some software, probably not what B is running now, but maybe.
b. the curator – the person that kicks ass when necessary, and
c. the author – the person that writes the articles. B is going to be mighty hard to replace in that regard; his background, contacts, trust-network, etc. are unique. So that means the slant of MoA is likely to change some
To get to an MoA-like offering, it’s likely a team will be necessary. Those traits I set out above don’t generally occur in one individual.
And that might be the reason that MoA can’t happen again, like it is now, in the future. Humans suck at team-work. That’s why Karlof1 is so good: got all that power stuffed into just one person. And he’s a one-man show, right?
So maybe it’s time for all the rest of the brilliant people here at MoA to consider persiflo’s suggestion that there would be one central hub, MoA_version2, with a few threads and a curator, and a bunch of satellites, and when the satellites have something relevant to say, they submit a link to MoA_version2’s curator, and that’s how others find out about it.
That said, I’ll repeat: B is a strong dude. He’ll get it together. Let’s use this event as a spur to consider how well we’re currently playing as a team, and wonder if there isn’t something we can do to up our game.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Apr 30 2024 13:52 utc | 393

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 13:10 utc | 387
I am off shopping, so no time — but for at least some families in my little world you are correct, scorpion. My anecdote above shows both sides of wartime acting badly as well as good. Good wins out in the end.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 30 2024 13:54 utc | 394

“The tales of ”Bolshevik murder” are precisely the same as stories about the Russian murder in Bucha. That is to say they are fabrications by groups with an extreme interest in discrediting their enemies…”
Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 30 2024 13:40 utc | 391T
Really? That’s preposterous, yes Bolsheviks did murder and it is well documented:
Who murdered the Romanov family? Aliens?:
“Finally, late at night on July 17, 1918, the Romanov family was awoken and told to get ready for another move. Still hoping to escape, the women packed up their things and put on clothing into which they had sewn precious jewelry, religious icons and a large amount of money. Then, unexpectedly, their captors turned on them, attacking them first with bullets, then with the butts of guns, bayonets and even their own heels and fists. All seven of the Romanovs—and the last gasp of the Russian monarchy—were dead.” (1)
Red terror killed over 50,000 people between 1918-1922 where in comparison under the Russian Empire the total number of executions was 43666 over the period 1825-1910.
“Conservative estimations for death tolls caused by Communist rule is unknown. Number of civilians killed in civil war due to Red terror is ~1.76 millions. Reds themselves focus on numbers reported by their Secret police executioners – 50.000 during 1918–1922. In comparison, under Russian Empire total numbers of executed after court decision was 4366 people during 1825–1910 [2].”
I guess living in an Ivory Tower with ubiquitous ‘intellectual incest'(TM) among Marxist disciples leads, obviously, inevitably, to immense self delusion.
1. https://www.history.com/news/romanov-family-murder-execution-reasons
2. Vladimir Abashkin

Posted by: canuck | Apr 30 2024 14:01 utc | 395

Posted by: canuck | Apr 30 2024 13:13 utc | 389
Thanks for the additional info about the peasants.
This issue is like so many others: Darwinian evolution, climate change, WWII revisionism, Trump, Jewish influence. Instead of well-reasoned exchange of ideas on an amateur comment boards or via published papers in expert milieus, people resort to over-simplifying pros and cons and end up on either side hurling insults across a fence of mutual antagonism. We see it again and again.
It’s a pity. I don’t pretend to know all the ins and outs of Russian history, indeed am generally only at about one out of ten in terms of knowledge, but after maybe 50 hours reading (not much, but not nothing) it seems clear that some very bad things happened on a large scale there and some bad actors were in the mix. It would be nice if it were easier to find the facts and so better understand such disasters so as to better recognize their seeds, if any, ongoing today. (Too much skulduggery in the mix, I guess.)
My interest, again, is that it seems we are headed down the same road. Though this time, instead of tens of millions being murdered, it will be hundreds of millions, maybe billions. The parochial concerns about last century’s communism vs capitalism – two wings of the same materialist bird – are a distraction but rarely do we get past them.
And so it goes…

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 14:27 utc | 396

persiflo | Apr 30 2024 12:13 utc | 381
If I remember it correctly, Bernhard first set up Moon of Alabama on his own, at a time Billmon’s Whiskey Bar was on hold, either site unavailable for some days, or Billmon thinking about stopping it, and he proposed MoA as a temporary discussion forum, mostly Open Thread I think. So, when Billmon cut off the comments, we already had for months an alternative with B posting links to Billmon’s pieces so that we could comment. Iirc, at times, he would add a few posts of his, or link to a few other, and not just to Billmon’s. And when eventually the Whiskey Bar entirely stopped, it had been probably a couple of years since MoA did exist – and even the global design, the different shades of blue, how threads work and the like were basically copy-paste from the Whiskey Bar. There weren’t really discussions or votes, it’s just B who thought it would be good for the community to have another place for his fellow commenters to go on to comment.
Of course, any future alternative to MoA would follow a different process.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Apr 30 2024 14:32 utc | 397

A shameless Canadian archly asks who murdered the Romanov family? The Bolsheviks of course…Good for them! Dead kings are blood that waters the tree of liberty. Monarchs and their stooges say their blood is better than mine. I say no. But when their tyranny topples their depraved lies must be refuted by pouring out this allegedly superior blood so that all can see the lie. No monarch who claims to have abandoned their libel on the rest of humanity can be trusted to deny their right to lord it over the rest of us if the balance of forces shifts in their favor (as in, White armies approaching.) But apparently a Canadian reveres foreign monarchs as much as they revere Charles III. Just as Edmund Burke valued the king of France above any other form of human, so too does the Canadian. But the servile are eager to be indignant on the behalf of their masters.
What’s next, outrage when people kill billionaires?
It’s not clear if Vladimir Abashkin is the physicist posing as a historian, but the lack of a citation (the [2] does not give a traceable reference, thus cannot serve as a citation, just the illusion of one) suggests that this is once again propaganda. In any event the figures given for those victims of the Tsars fortunate to get trials is typically misleading, as it omits not just the cannon fodder casually sacrificed in the Tsar’s wars, but those who didn’t get the figleaf of a trial. Such as for instance, the victims of the Black Hundreds, those bold fighters against “Freemasonry.” Even then it is likely enough the figure is more or less imaginary anyhow. See for instance http://frenchrevsatchelt.weebly.com/petr-stolypin.html#:~:text=During%20the%20policy%20of%20fierce,being%20nicknamed%20'Stolypin's%20necktie‘. Stolypin’s neckties alone in just a few years after the revolution of 1905 numbered in the thousands.
Any genuinely interest in the issue of violence in revolutions might profit from Arno Mayer’s The Furies, a comparative study of the French and Russian revolutions. Some people say Mayer is a Marxist (he certainly is no Communist) but it’s the kind of “Marxist” who spends a lot of time thinking with ideas from the likes of Hannah Arendt and Carl Schmitt, and never uses ideas from Robespierre, Marat, St. Just, Hebert or Babeuf, much less the likes of Lenin and Trotsky.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 30 2024 14:56 utc | 398

Holocaust survivor demonstrating against the Israeli government:
https://twitter.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1783270524388294756
Includes photos of some very large demonstrations, none of which have seen on western media.
I find to get any stories about this have to go left-leaning. The right-leaning publications in the Anglosphere are 100% pro-Israel it seems, though I suspect most of their libertarian-leaning readership, a considerable percentage, are not. All of our public and media spaces are over-politicized these days – and shallow.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 30 2024 15:36 utc | 399

So you accept that the Central Bank can actually cancel the government debt…
As I said, it’s the equivalent of writing “1.000.000” on a bit of paper and paying with it.
It’s not “inflationary” – rather, if you do it, you don’t have a currency any more. Which has nothing to do with capitalism; the same would happen in any economic system. Capital controls wouldn’t help either, since people would exchange money for basically *anything* else. Cigarettes or bales of hay, if need be.
The associated debt & repayment promise is what gives fiat money its value.
“Disaster capitalists” aside, destroying the currency is generally not in the interest of the ruling class. The chaos and upheaval it usually entails can have unpredictable effects, like revolutions. It’s only the last option, when everything else has failed & they’re backed against the wall. Before going this step, the US/UK will do everything they can to let others pay the bill.
QE, as a variant of applied MMT, allows CBs to control interest on public debt – no wonder the right was up in arms against it: They’d been pretending for 40 years that money is ‘scarce’, to justify their capital income. But there’s no alternative; states cannot pay positive real interest on their debt.
(Reducing the debt load would require significant wealth taxes. Sounds good, yeah – but that would massively bring down asset valuations, and with them the entire financial system bc collateral.)
Prolonged QE is a problem for countries with a current account deficit, though. It essentially means paying for imports with a never-ending flow of freshly-printed bonds.
How long will exporters trust and accept this form of payment?
Posted by: Roger | Apr 30 2024 4:54 utc | 361

Posted by: smuks | Apr 30 2024 15:39 utc | 400