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April 10, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-105
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james | Apr 10 2024 14:43 utc | 1 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 14:50 utc | 2 Since “open anything” I would just mention bremsstrahlung specifically in addition to everything else concerning nukes in case no one else already has. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 10 2024 15:02 utc | 3 I think it’s time that barflies start working on getting inside the PTB’s OODA loop. Elon Musk is opening a color-revolution operation in Brazil as we speak, and I expect this to be just the first of many operations to exert tighter control over Latin America. The US is in a poor material position to take direct military action in the region, but the ability of Russia/China to project power there is even more limited, including ‘soft power.’ I have not done this, but I suspect that a resource analysis of south/central America will give a good picture of where the next wave of political/economic operations will take place. Posted by: Honzo | Apr 10 2024 15:03 utc | 4 @Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 14:50 utc | 2 Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 10 2024 15:07 utc | 5 @ Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 14:50 utc | 2 Posted by: james | Apr 10 2024 15:08 utc | 6 woke! go for it, lol.. Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 10 2024 15:11 utc | 7 regarding ‘terrorism’.. Posted by: james | Apr 10 2024 15:16 utc | 8 On a local reader board Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 10 2024 15:16 utc | 9 “and that we’ll see a wave of materially helpful actions coming out of the US to lower the anti-imperialist temperature regionally” Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 10 2024 15:17 utc | 10 @ waynorinorway | Apr 10 2024 15:11 utc | 7 Posted by: james | Apr 10 2024 15:17 utc | 11 Michael Roberts has an interesting piece on China’s economy today. The disfunctional nature of western capitalism- so celebrated by the Ideologist/Economists- as it disappears up into its own orifice has reached the stage at which it pleads for help from the competition. The truth about the ‘market model’ is that it only works when it has evolved into a series of mutually reinforcing monopolies controlling the state and, through it, society. That’s what the capitalists call ‘freedom’- one chance in a million of becoming a dictator. Posted by: bevin | Apr 10 2024 15:28 utc | 12 I am copying my comment from last night on the old Open Thread and will add to it
And data from an earlier Xinhuanet posting
Where is the increased uncertainty that Fitch is alluding to? Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 10 2024 15:29 utc | 13 Honzo | Apr 10 2024 15:03 utc | 4 Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 10 2024 15:11 utc | 7 Posted by: KMRIA | Apr 10 2024 15:35 utc | 15 Many of you posters are doing a McCarthy like witch hunt (seeing everything as a WEFer) and by doing so are undermining your own hopes and beliefs. They Call Me Mister | Apr 10 2024 15:17 utc | 10 Posted by: bevin | Apr 10 2024 15:40 utc | 17 A selection of reading material for those of you apes who like to read. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 10 2024 15:40 utc | 18 Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 10 2024 15:30 utc | 14 Posted by: AI | Apr 10 2024 15:51 utc | 19 Re: de-dollarization Posted by: Exile | Apr 10 2024 15:53 utc | 20 Camus/existentialism/The Cure/SoM: Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 10 2024 15:53 utc | 21 Posted by: Exile | Apr 10 2024 15:53 utc | 20 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 10 2024 16:03 utc | 22 Posted by: bevin | Apr 10 2024 15:40 utc | 17 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 10 2024 16:04 utc | 23 You’ve got me interested now, Honzo. What could the US possibly do to increase its popularity in South America when flooding it with coups? If China and Russia let Brazil fall to that, it would be a sure sign of their apathy. Posted by: Honzo | Apr 10 2024 16:12 utc | 24 have we got onto the marxist angle here yet? lol… nows the time, as opposed to derailing some upcoming moa thread with this never ending conversation… Posted by: james | Apr 10 2024 16:13 utc | 25 Thomson-Reuters published a weak backgrounder re: Ecuador’s violent incursion into the Mexican embassy, with frequent use of the descriptor “leftist”. Though Brazil-style lawfare had clearly been applied to members of the former Correa government, such context is missing from the report. Posted by: jayc | Apr 10 2024 16:13 utc | 26 ‘Identity politics’? Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 16:14 utc | 27 # 3 Sunny runny Burger Posted by: paxmark1 | Apr 10 2024 16:20 utc | 28 And that is what has been happening in Ecuador, El Salvador, Honduras, Bolivia, Peru, Colombia, Argentina, Venezuela, Brazil etc where the past decade has been characterised by one attemot after another-coup, lawfare, colour revolution- to subjugate the popular appetite for sovereignty and equality. Posted by: Honzo | Apr 10 2024 16:21 utc | 29 Found the “full version” with a lot more lyrics and cleaner sound. For me this is the “real” version and the one I should have recommended to begin with. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 10 2024 16:29 utc | 30 The US is in a poor material position to take direct military action in the region, but the ability of Russia/China to project power there is even more limited, including ‘soft power.’ Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 16:31 utc | 31 All empire has now are more lies about the reality we are living. The scenes from the movie Wag The Dog come to mind as we read about the latest distractive tidbit and empire reels from the thousands of cuts it is receiving around the world. Posted by: jpc | Apr 10 2024 16:33 utc | 32 From the Ukraine thread Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 16:50 utc | 33 Pretty long but pretty much the last word on the South China Sea issue. From CGTN a well researched, detailed, academic analysis of history and treaties by a western scholar, and yeh, it belongs to China: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 10 2024 17:06 utc | 34 Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 10 2024 15:29 utc | 13 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 10 2024 17:08 utc | 35 @Johan Kaspar | Apr 10 2024 17:08 utc | 35, Posted by: LuRenJia | Apr 10 2024 17:17 utc | 36 Interesting, ignore the slanted reporting:
Syria regime appoints notorious Suheil Hassan as head of special forces Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 10 2024 17:19 utc | 37 This does not mean that the PTB are ‘good,’ it does not mean that they are our friends. It simply means that their interests are best served at the moment by dialing back the worst excesses and buying some goodwill. Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 10 2024 17:26 utc | 38
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 17:32 utc | 39 Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 10 2024 17:19 utc | 37 Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 10 2024 17:42 utc | 40 “Michael Roberts has an interesting piece on China’s economy today. The dysfunctional nature of western capitalism- so celebrated by the Ideologist/Economists- as it disappears up into its own orifice has reached the stage at which it pleads for help from the competition. ” “Canada is likely to have very hard times, but then it’s not actually a united country which anyone takes seriously.” Woo hoo. Buckle up buttercups! Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 10 2024 17:53 utc | 43 canuck | Apr 10 2024 17:48 utc | 42 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 17:55 utc | 44 The federal council at the “swiss cheese factory” has decided to hold a conference on Ukraine peace formula. It will take place in June 2024 in the Burgenstock area in the canton of Nidwalden. Invitations with the exact dates will be sent out in the near future. Russia has warned many times before that without Russia’s participation, a “peace summit” would mean just another round of fruitless consultations. Posted by: AI | Apr 10 2024 17:56 utc | 45 @james, #25:
LOL! Yeah we sure have. See all these comments about Color Revolutions? Color Revolution is very Marxist, even though Marx himself never use the word “Color”. Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 10 2024 18:05 utc | 46 “canuck | Apr 10 2024 17:48 utc | 42
So you think the Judge arresting and jailing people without trial is a good guy and Lulu the real deal? @bevin, #17:
You’re absolutely right. The Empire is sweating! But you left out Empire’s current enemy #1: Amlo of Mexico. Look out for shenanigans to burst one after another south of the border to rid the Amigos of Amlo. Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 10 2024 18:10 utc | 49
You may be right. But in casual moments I find myself imagining Musk as being positioned as the first World President, so he’s doing a Man of the People manifestation now. Remember his satellite-internet tech has been perhaps the single main factor allowing the Ukrainians to stymie the Russians for so long. All billionaires, especially the maha-billionaires like Musk are oligarchs embedded within an oligarchic system. Nihilism as a definition would be the zero sum approach, existence being a statistical probability and so on. From nothing to nothing. Posted by: Ornot | Apr 10 2024 18:20 utc | 51 @ Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 16:14 utc | 27 Posted by: james | Apr 10 2024 18:23 utc | 52 2nd attempt at posting this.. Posted by: james | Apr 10 2024 18:23 utc | 53 Re: de-dollarization Posted by: Exile | Apr 10 2024 18:25 utc | 54 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 16:14 utc | 27 Below is a Reuters posting title showing their propaganda chops Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 10 2024 18:32 utc | 56 So you think the Judge arresting and jailing people without trial is a good guy and Lulu the real deal? Posted by: Honzo | Apr 10 2024 18:34 utc | 57 An important essay “The poison of subjectivism” by C.S. Lewis, though slightly old fashioned ambles through the theme Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 10 2024 18:39 utc | 58 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 17:55 utc | 44 Posted by: Blissex | Apr 10 2024 18:39 utc | 59 Are YOU unknowingly eating ‘forever chemicals’? Posted by: Phil R | Apr 10 2024 18:44 utc | 60 2. China is not a Communist state it is hybrid- a ‘social-capitalist’ model that is very economically, and culturally effective: Posted by: Honzo | Apr 10 2024 18:47 utc | 61 Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 10 2024 18:32 utc | 56 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 10 2024 18:57 utc | 62 james | Apr 10 2024 18:23 utc | 52 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 18:57 utc | 63 Posted by: Honzo | Apr 10 2024 16:12 utc | 24 Posted by: Blissex | Apr 10 2024 19:13 utc | 64 No, I have never been a Left -Right guy- Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 19:15 utc | 65
scorpion | Apr 10 2024 19:26 utc | 66 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 19:35 utc | 67 Posted by: Ornot | Apr 10 2024 18:20 utc | 51
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 10 2024 18:57 utc | 62 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 10 2024 19:38 utc | 69
Allow me to debunk this “article” :
Trans just became the pretext to promote the ban of sex education, which make people who advocate against it at the very least accomplices of theses crimes. Posted by: xiao pignouf | Apr 10 2024 19:46 utc | 70 Certain white people sure do love the word “woke” these days. After last night’s back ‘n forth (no offense taken here, to get that out of the way) I did a little survey of my friends in a couple of states via text message and email. Most of us are white or Hispanic. 5 black (well 4 black and 1 mixed race) people. Most of them were like “What the fuck are you asking me this for? I haven’t seen you in years.” About 22 people not including myself replied out of maybe 31 messages I sent, so I’ll wait to share my results until I get some more responses. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 10 2024 19:49 utc | 71
Glad to hear it and best of luck. I don’t know if you have old wise herbalists in Australia but a really good one (rare) can get to the root of nearly any chronic problem. Don’t know if many barflies follow Charles Hugh Smith regularly. As with Tom Luongo I tend to dip in and out of CHS’s site. This piece is worth a read: https://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2024/04/could-us-treasuries-become-trade-of.html
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 10 2024 19:53 utc | 73 xiao pignouf | Apr 10 2024 19:46 utc | 70 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 20:00 utc | 74 I did a little survey of my friends in a couple of states via text message and email. Most of us are white or Hispanic. 5 black (well 4 black and 1 mixed race) people. Most of them were like “What the fuck are you asking me this for? I haven’t seen you in years.” [Billy NoMates] Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 10 2024 20:01 utc | 75 Then follows the usual rant about drag queens in libraries… Just spreading lies and unproved rumors… Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 10 2024 20:06 utc | 76 Clearly the man has no life outside of his online obsessions Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 10 2024 20:09 utc | 77 “…Clearly the man has no life outside of his online obsessions..” Posted by: bevin | Apr 10 2024 20:12 utc | 78 PeterAu1…..can’t remember the issue but you guys are talking diet problems, just guessing GI stuff? Just to rule out ‘bacteria’ get a blood test for H Pylori. Had it myself long time ago but recently several friends have been diagnosed. Its fairly common, causes nasty GI issues, but is easily treated. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 10 2024 20:13 utc | 79 all the “money”-printing, debt and leverage will dissolve because they will have no other choice but to dissolve. Posted by: financial matters | Apr 10 2024 20:14 utc | 80 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 10 2024 20:09 utc | 77 Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 10 2024 20:14 utc | 81 sean the leprechaun | Apr 10 2024 20:13 utc | 79 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 20:18 utc | 82 scorpion@72….if not for the plant people, humans would have withered on the vine long ago…apes would be digging us up and displaying our bits in museums and on mantelpieces…. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 10 2024 20:19 utc | 83 Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 10 2024 20:14 utc | 81 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 10 2024 20:21 utc | 84
I was wondering how long it will take a fuck face to say that. Less than 15 minutes. Posted by: xiao pignouf | Apr 10 2024 20:23 utc | 85 One of the most cringe things whities do is talk racism to black and hispanics they hardly know or just met. Posted by: UWDude | Apr 10 2024 20:26 utc | 86 Brazilian journalist Eduardo Vasco gives his account of the origins of Identity Politics- one of a series of alternatives that the Capitalist Academy has come up with in opposition to class analysis- the theory that those who control a society’s economy control the state and govern society itself. Posted by: bevin | Apr 10 2024 20:27 utc | 87 Posted by: UWDude | Apr 10 2024 20:26 utc | 86 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 10 2024 20:28 utc | 88 Tom.. Posted by: UWDude | Apr 10 2024 20:37 utc | 89 Posted by: Ornot | Apr 10 2024 18:20 utc | 51 Posted by: UWDude | Apr 10 2024 20:37 utc | 89 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 10 2024 20:41 utc | 91 Tom_Q_Collins Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2024 20:45 utc | 92 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 10 2024 20:21 utc | 84
LOL Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 10 2024 20:46 utc | 93 “So you think the Judge arresting and jailing people without trial is a good guy and Lulu the real deal?” @Posted by: canuck | Apr 10 2024 17:46 utc | 41 I’m going to riff! Let’s see where it goes. Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 10 2024 20:51 utc | 96 Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 10 2024 20:46 utc | 93 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 10 2024 20:52 utc | 97
Posted by: financial matters | Apr 10 2024 20:14 utc | 80 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 10 2024 20:53 utc | 98 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 10 2024 20:09 utc | 77 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 10 2024 20:52 utc | 97 Posted by: SamHyde | Apr 10 2024 20:55 utc | 100 |
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