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April 19, 2024
Israel Quietly ‘Retaliates’ For Iran’s Retaliation Attack

Last night Israel attempted a minor attack on Iran to 'retaliate' for the Iranian penetration of its security screen.

The current exchange happened after Israel, in clear violation of international law, bombed the Iranian consulate in Damascus.

The aim and success of last night's attack is yet unknown:

Israel carried out retaliatory strikes against Iran early Friday morning local time, reportedly targeting locations in the west of the country. Explosions were heard in the city of Isfahan, prompting commercial flights to divert from their routes.

Senior US officials speaking to ABC, CBS and NPR confirmed the strikes.

Iran's semi-official Fars news agency reported at around 5:30 a.m. local time (10:00 p.m. EST Thursday) that explosions were heard in Qahjaverestan, northeast of Isfahan.

A senior Iranian military official in Isfahan told the Islamic Republic News Agency that the explosions were caused by Iran's air defenses that fired at a suspicious object east of Isfahan. Isfahan's international airport is located just northeast of Qahjaverestan.

Two discarded first stages of Israeli ROCKS aero-ballistic missiles have been found in Iraq. ROCKS, a derivative of Sparrows ballistic target rocket, are air-launched, stand-off, air-to-ground missiles.

They may have hit something near Isfahan or they may have been taken down by Iranian air defense.

No Iranian or Israeli officials have commented the attack. The IAEA said that no Iranian nuclear facility has been hit.

As both sides are currently silent, and as there are no signs of further escalation, the strike will likely conclude the current exchange.

As a consequence of its strike in Damascus Israel has lost its escalation dominance. Iran managed to penetrate its external security screen just like Hamas had penetrated Israel's internal security screen on October 7 2023 when it broke out of Gaza to collect hostages.

Those who moved to Israel because they thought that it could provide them with security should reevaluate their decision.

Comments

Just when you thought the only ones throwing ROCKS in that region were the Palestinians..

Posted by: Rubiconned | Apr 19 2024 14:08 utc | 1

I hope that is the end of it, but wouldn’t bet on it…. Can’t count on Iran to always turn the other cheek…

Posted by: ctiger | Apr 19 2024 14:08 utc | 2

Israel is a pluralistic society with a wide range of views.
The military establishment is less optimistic about military intervention than the crazies who now rule.
Don’t worry, a lot of the opposition are also crazies, but different types.

Posted by: Polli | Apr 19 2024 14:08 utc | 3

Israel’s retaliation was like @benshapiro having sex:
Claims to have penetrated but you feel nothing
Seen on Twitter.
made me laugh

Posted by: john | Apr 19 2024 14:13 utc | 4

Re your last sentence, b:
Yes. They should all go back where they came from. Only those demonstrably resident in 1947 permitted to remain, if they wish.

Posted by: pasha | Apr 19 2024 14:18 utc | 5

john | Apr 19 2024 14:13 utc | 4
Not the usual ‘john’, who doesn’t find it funny at all.
Change your handle, asshat.

Posted by: john | Apr 19 2024 14:24 utc | 6

Israel is a pluralistic society with a wide range of views.
Posted by: Polli | Apr 19 2024 14:08 utc | 3
As long as you’re Jewish. If not, you’re out of luck.

Posted by: laguerre | Apr 19 2024 14:28 utc | 7

Wow, not a pair between them.
Now Iran can go back to it’s proxies and Israel can go back to murdering Gazan children and the cartons of popcorn I bought in early October anticipating Iran v Israel showdown can slowly expire to become bird seed.
Iran and Israel are at each others’ throats for decades. If they don’t have the guts to finally settle their animosity in a cage match, one on one, mano-o-mano, then they’re destined to shout death threats to each other like two mongrels barking at each other on either side of a fence.
The Iran-Israel “war” is in dire contrast to the Ukraine-Russia war. One might disagree with the Kyiv regime or even the Kremlin. But one has to acknowledge the bravery and professionalism of soldiers from both sides.
Not NATO though. NATO has no problem invading sand dwellers with rag tag clothes and rpg-7s in the middle east. But NATO is as brave as Israel when facing a real opponent like Russia or China.

Posted by: FieryButMostPeaceful | Apr 19 2024 14:29 utc | 8

The missile remnants found outside Baghdad ‘may have hit something near Isfahan’? Did you check a map before writing that? Also, Israel did not ‘lose’ escalation dominance. It never had one except in minds of people who are ignorant about military capabilities.

Posted by: Lyle A | Apr 19 2024 14:29 utc | 9

Israeli ballistic missile?
Western media first claimed that Israel had fired ballistic missiles. Iran claimed that nothing happened, except some quadrocopters launched locally. No the remnants of the booster section of an Israeli air-launched ballistic missile have been found in Iraq, 100 km west of the Iranian border. See these two tweets.

https://twitter.com/AmirIGM/status/1781259559362806049
https://twitter.com/FieldMarshalPSO/status/1781274459305037962

The missile in question is most likely the Silver Sparrow target missile. The existence was first revealed in August 2013 when a test launch was detected by the Russian ballistic missile early warning radar at Armavir. The launch was timed with the Ghouta false flag sarin massacre in Syria.
I wrote an article on the missile type ten years ago on the English language Wikipedia. The article has seen no progress in these ten years. On the contrary, Wikipedia’s guardians of truth (and of “reliable sources”) have been vandalizing it.
(Moving comment to new thread. I see b has already found the same of the same images.)

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 19 2024 14:30 utc | 10

the johns have spoken

Posted by: annie | Apr 19 2024 14:31 utc | 11

b, please do not encourage these people to emigrate to my country.

Posted by: blurz | Apr 19 2024 14:35 utc | 12

“Those who moved to Israel because they thought that it could provide them with security should reevaluate their decision.”
Hahaha. Nice try. 75K Jews moved to Israel in 2022 alone. They are safer there than in most European cities, where all the Islamist crazies now live.

Posted by: New1 | Apr 19 2024 14:36 utc | 13

Why not just keep it up? Completely exhaust Israel and US air defenses like Russia is doing in Ukraine. That way when Hamas launches their counterattack Israel won’t be able to stop them.
And one story I think MoA needs to continuously cover is the simple fact that our “plan” (if that’s what you want to call it) to deal with the Houthi’s is a complete and total failure. Simply put, we have no ability to stop the Houthi’s from interdicting Red Sea shipping, period, full stop. Their attacks continue and there is literally nothing at all we an do about it. This is huge. In the end, we’re gonna have to kindly ask them to stop, likely through bribery (sending money and humanitarian aid and lifting sanctions), and hope and pray that they agree to it.
These low level conflicts can absolutely exhaust Team LGBTQ/Empire. Overpriced weapons, overextended empires, the Muslims are truly doing God’s work and I say that as an American Christian.

Posted by: WestWatcher | Apr 19 2024 14:39 utc | 14

First impressions matter. We can sit here all day doing analysis and being clever, first impressions still matter.
More and more people will tell you they disbelieve everything they hear from MSM. And they still believe the narrative. The narrative is the only thing they ever hear.
For the loyal target audience more confirmation that IDF is invincible and ragheads in Iran are helpless children.
It’s a psyops win. May be shortest weakest psyop in a while. It is still a win.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 19 2024 14:39 utc | 15

They are safer there than in most European cities, where all the Islamist crazies now live.
Posted by: New1 | Apr 19 2024 14:36 utc | 13
That’s why half a million left Israel since Oct 7th.

Posted by: laguerre | Apr 19 2024 14:40 utc | 16

Question to the bar:
What is the status of Russia’s nuclear umbrella over Iran? I’ve done some searching, can’t find any confirmation that such a commitment on Russia’s part actually exists, but I remember reading here at MOA that Russia did make that commitment.
Can anyone provide sources, links or quotes to confirm or deny the status of that nuclear umbrella commitment between Russia and Iran?
The relevance to this thread is this: if Israel uses nukes on Iran, what would Russia do?

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Apr 19 2024 14:42 utc | 17

Focus needs to shift back to Gaza quickly … Tens of thousands are starving to death as we type …

Posted by: Caliman | Apr 19 2024 14:42 utc | 18

From Badlands News Roundup:

As this chaotic storm of biblical proportions swirls around the Middle East, Saudi Crown Prince MBS remains completely calm, repeating the same thing over and over and over and over and over again.
Saudi: “Sign the peace deal.”
Israel: bombs another city, killing civilians
Saudi: “Sign the peace deal.”
Israel: kills a bunch of UN aid workers, including US citizens
Saudi: “Sign the peace deal.”
Israel: bombs an embassy in Damascus
Saudi: “Sign the peace deal.”
Israel: [taunts Iran in Hebrew]
Iran: fires missile barrage at Israel; barrage blocked by Saudi-led-alliance
Saudi: “Sign the peace deal.”
Israel: “OMG! That missile barrage was literally the Holocaust!”
Saudi: “Sign the peace deal.”
Israel: “Come on, America! We’re going to war with Iran!”
America: “Just sign the damn peace deal.”
We are watching the Art of the Deal. One side is playing chess, the other side is playing checkers. Benevolent perseverance will win the day. God will win the day.”

https://badlands.substack.com/p/badlands-news-brief-0cd

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 19 2024 14:44 utc | 19

How come no-one has brought up the possibility that it was the Americans that brought down the Israeli missiles found outside Baghdad? It’s about 100 miles from the Iranian border, so it’s possible that they were downed by Iran. But the US has air defence in Baghdad. They may also have been downed using electronic warfare alone, as the missiles are likely GPS-dependent.

Posted by: Lyle A | Apr 19 2024 14:46 utc | 20

The safest place in the world for a Jewish person to live these days is …..
Iran
True

Posted by: Exile | Apr 19 2024 14:47 utc | 21

As a consequence of its strike in Damascus Israel has lost its escalation dominance.

This is the sentence that matters. THis has wide-ranging implications.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 19 2024 14:55 utc | 22

@Lyle A | Apr 19 2024 14:46 utc | 20

How come no-one has brought up the possibility that it was the Americans that brought down the Israeli missiles found outside Baghdad?

Because as the article says, they are discarded first stages.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 19 2024 14:58 utc | 23

Israel has escalation dominance… they have nukes and Iran doesn’t.

Posted by: Goldhoarder | Apr 19 2024 14:59 utc | 24

By my calculations were still shy several high up generals.
Its not over till its over.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 19 2024 15:00 utc | 25

Dammit, I just paid a deposit for a beach front condo in SW Israel. Better call Saul.

Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Apr 19 2024 15:00 utc | 26

Goldhorder @ 24
Clearly you havent thought that comment out.
Try angain snigger or get back to me later.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 19 2024 15:07 utc | 27

Interesting about the discarded Israeli missile segment found in Iraq. That might help explain why both Iran and Israel are silent.
Any other report I’ve seen so far only mentions small drones. Maybe Israel tried to emulate Iran’s multi-modal attack with drones and missiles, but it fell flat when all Israel’s ballistic missiles were shot down by Iran. In such cases, Israel with its tail between its legs in shame, would be strongly motivated to keep silent. As for Iran – they are adults, and unlike Israel they are more interested in strategic gains than childish propaganda. Since they have consistently claimed to want to avoid escalation, it is plausible that they cast alleged (pretty implausible in my view) doubt on the identity of the perpetrators (a) to have an excuse not to have to respond, and (b) to minimise overall escalation. In such case keeping silent on having shot down the Israeli ballistic missiles, both Iran and Israel know the true score, that’s a massive strategic victory for Iran compounding her earlier victory. If true, Iran successfully penetrated Israel’s defences even with prior warnings and massive support from other countries, while Israel failed to penetrate Iran’s defences at all (the small drones being regarded in this argument as mere decoys for the ballistic missiles and insignificant on their own). Iran also scored very significant international Brownie Points as adult in the room for remaining silent about shooting down the Israeli missiles to evade escalation – that’s a beneficial boomerang that will come back to support Iran later when she needs to escalate.

Posted by: BM | Apr 19 2024 15:15 utc | 28

Israel’s retaliation was like @benshapiro having sex:
Claims to have penetrated but you feel nothing
Seen on Twitter.
made me laugh
Posted by: john | Apr 19 2024 14:13 utc | 4

Two empty jewish rocks lying ashamed in the desert, failing to have delivered anything anywhere.
The whole of shitrael between themselves couldn’t find two working balls.

Israel is a pluralistic society with a wide range of views.
The military establishment is less optimistic about military intervention than the crazies who now rule.
Don’t worry, a lot of the opposition are also crazies, but different types.
Posted by: Polli | Apr 19 2024 14:08 utc | 3

Most of them have borderline personality disorder and likely the other cluster B disorders too. Pluralistic madhouse with conflicting views spitting bile at everything, in every head.

Posted by: Michael A | Apr 19 2024 15:17 utc | 29

I would very much imagine that Iran and North Korea have some sort of deal done where Iran gets oil to North Korea and Iran gets some technical advice on something like making nuclear weapons or ballistic weapons. Thus Israel having nuclear weapons has led to nuclear proliferation in the Middle East – another win for the USA empire.

Posted by: Bill R | Apr 19 2024 15:17 utc | 30

It has been mentioned in the Palestinian thread, could this have been a probing-attack to map out Iran’s radar systems?

Posted by: librul | Apr 19 2024 15:20 utc | 31

Posted by: FieryButMostPeaceful | Apr 19 2024 14:29 utc | 8
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Both wars are US wars. The US is a falling isolated empire.

Posted by: AI | Apr 19 2024 15:20 utc | 32

As a consequence of its strike in Damascus Israel has lost its escalation dominance.
This is the sentence that matters. This has wide-ranging implications.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 19 2024 14:55 utc | 22
Agreed. Of course as another comment states, Israel has nukes as the final stage of escalation dominance, but once that point is reached all bets are literally off.
The point as I see it is the historical elimination of Israel’s prior sense of being able to strike, assassinate & destroy at will with zero consequences. History will tell us if that was the turning point.

Posted by: FakeBelieve | Apr 19 2024 15:23 utc | 33

Posted by: pasha | Apr 19 2024 14:18 utc | 5
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Has anyone done a compare and contrast of the Israeli Ashkenazim and the Pieds Noirs of Algeria?

Posted by: Jane | Apr 19 2024 15:26 utc | 34

i suppose israel and iran know what is what.. i don’t expect to be told what it is either.. appearances can be deceiving..

Posted by: james | Apr 19 2024 15:28 utc | 35

I don’t buy any of this. NPR (whose new CEO was exposed this week) can proclaim explosions and chaos all they want, I’m not feeling it. Telegram channels from across iran aren’t reporting it. A handful of quad copters from MEK/isis/ciami6demonicwarriors seems to have elevated the mood across iran as they’re laughing and joking. Any sort of promises of supporting operations in rafah or anywhere in gaza isn’t for the US to promise, and israel will undoubtdly encounter greater and greater resistance suffering increasing casualties despite any empty promises of US support.

Posted by: NJH | Apr 19 2024 15:37 utc | 36

Occuppied West Bank continues under siege by the Israeli Occupying Forces and illegal Israeli settlers financed by the US.

Posted by: AI | Apr 19 2024 15:38 utc | 37

@Norwegian | Apr 19 2024 14:58 utc | 23
The warhead in a missile like that doesn’t have fuel tanks that carry it much further than the first stage, so where is the warhead? It definitely didn’t make it to Isfahan.

Posted by: Lyle A | Apr 19 2024 15:42 utc | 38

Southern Front SITREP
https://english.manartv.com.lb/2091421
Comment – significant rocket barrage outside Gaza Fence plus a major ambush of a IDF column inside Feb e.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 19 2024 15:44 utc | 39

‘Those who moved to Israel for security should re-evaluate.’
No!!!!!!!
Stay there. Or go here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast We don’t want them coming back here.

Posted by: Sentient | Apr 19 2024 15:46 utc | 40

@Goldhoarder | Apr 19 2024 14:59 utc | 24
When your doomsday weapon is your only deterrent, you lose. The US’s and Russia’s military power is not based on nukes. Israel’s nuke missiles could be used as a revenge weapon against Iran’s population centers, but have limited military value. They wouldn’t be able to stop Iran from a sustaining a drone and missile attack, and if Israel tries using them for that they’d have less for revenge.

Posted by: Lyle A | Apr 19 2024 15:51 utc | 41

Vladimir Putin has stated several times…
A nucular attack on Iran would be seen as an attack on Russia.
Its a chessboard. Russia has its nucular deterant on the board, red sea, med, off the coast of US, england too.
And they know it.
Israels nucular advantage would last only momments.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 19 2024 16:01 utc | 42

@Lyle A | Apr 19 2024 15:42 utc | 38
Just read what b writes and the links provided.
“Two discarded first stages of Israeli ROCKS aero-ballistic missiles have been found”

Israeli defense firm Rafael combined two of its air-launched weapons to produce Rocks which, when launched from an F-16 or F-35, uses a solid fuel rocket motor to send it on an upward trajectory so that the missile descends on the target at the speed of a ballistic missile.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 19 2024 16:06 utc | 43

It is a relief that it has become transparent that Israel is not prepared or capable of fighting Iran head-on.
But when will Israeli troops be expelled from Gaza?
Because as long as the Israeli army continues its military action in that land, the massacres will continue.
What also worries me is whether this decades-long act of ‘illegal settlement’ will eventually be overlooked.
They have continued to ignore international law and UN recommendations to continue illegal settlement, and if they continue to stay, will it eventually be overlooked and treated as acquired land?
If so, they will just continue with their illegal settlements in the future.
The root of the problem appears to be due to the lack of a mechanism or existence that provides effective punishment for Israel, no matter how much Israel oppresses the Palestinians.

Posted by: Nokaz | Apr 19 2024 16:14 utc | 44

As a consequence of its strike in Damascus Israel has lost its escalation dominance.

I would like to learn more. Please flesh this out beyond an assertion to examine if it is credible. On the face of it, it is ridiculous. They are gutting the general staff of IRGC’s pointy end. They operate with impunity in the skies of Iraq, Syria and very likely Iran. Only US is holding the back.
As I understand it, IRI’s deterrent is a mini-MAD doctrine that relies on the (expected, projected, not proven) “catastrophic” impact on world energy and trade. Close the Persian Gulf, burn down all the “Gulf” energy infrastructure and have Hezbollah and other proxies go full blast on the enemy. The next ‘level’ down is proxy warfare. There is NOTHING in between these. Nothing. This is their escalation ladder: terrorist -> irregular militia -> economic pain for stakeholders (c.f. Houthis) -> ?
So that is their ‘max’ escalation – it’s their only card left. Strike in Damascus was based on the fact that IRI can’t escalate without getting into a total war (with basically everyone, including nominal allies like China who absolutely can not be on the same page regarding Persian Gulf closure). IDF was highlighting this fact.
Many here pretend to knowledge regarding military and economic matters. Lay out the case for this fabulous MAD of the IRGC. In my opinion is it merely mad and sadly misinformed about their adversaries and what they are capable of doing.
So no, B.
What has transpired is actually USA regaining control over the escalation in the well choreographed and telegraphed “decades long” conflict between these two projects.

Posted by: sotecoml | Apr 19 2024 16:14 utc | 45

just now, mentally derailed norwegian Stoltenberg has said NATO believes Ukraine has the right to strike “legitimate military targets” inside Russia.

Posted by: AI | Apr 19 2024 16:34 utc | 47

Those who live in glass houses, shouldn’t throw ROCKS!

Posted by: Rick | Apr 19 2024 16:37 utc | 48

> The safest place in the world for a Jewish person to live these days is …..
Europe, North America, South America, Russia, and more… Practically anywhere else other than Hotel Netanyahoo.

Posted by: natokraine | Apr 19 2024 16:41 utc | 50

Dammit, I just paid a deposit for a beach front condo in SW Israel. Better call Saul.
Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Apr 19 2024 15:00 utc | 26

Lol 😂

Posted by: blueswede | Apr 19 2024 16:41 utc | 51

posted by: Eoin Clancy 26
Better check with Samson. Last I heard he was eyeless in Gaza.

Posted by: G. Poulin | Apr 19 2024 16:43 utc | 52

Is that egg on your face?
If this was it, than Iran and Israel, of all countries, have shamed the rest of the (western) world by finding a solution for a conflict that seemed impossible to solve, a solution where both sides save their face, where a minimum of damage was caused and where – possibly – both sides now realise they might both be better off by tuning down provoking each other.
If with a capital I. Still. One may hope.

Posted by: Marvin | Apr 19 2024 16:43 utc | 53

Feels like a nothing burger. Some token strike on Iran to appease Israeli ‘eye for an eye’ justice. The fact that Iran is barely bothering to respond tells you this is all just a face-saving measure for Tel Aviv, probably cooked by by the CIA…

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Apr 19 2024 16:47 utc | 54

Hahaha. Nice try. 75K Jews moved to Israel in 2022 alone. They are safer there than in most European cities, where all the Islamist crazies now live.
Posted by: New1 | Apr 19 2024 14:36 utc | 13
Hope none of that cohort got caught up in the 7 October festivities …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 19 2024 16:47 utc | 55

Posted by: WestWatcher | Apr 19 2024 14:39 utc | 14
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Same God, better (more accurate) book of revelations, with stricter observance. Everything is according to the Creator’s plan. It is, by definition, inescapable

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 19 2024 16:47 utc | 56

So its alot of wind then…..
Like ‘blazing sadles’
Netinyahoo holds a gun to his own head and shouts “no one move or the jew gets it”
Victem pleading, classic.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 19 2024 16:47 utc | 57

Posted by: Goldhoarder | Apr 19 2024 14:59 utc | 24
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National suicide is not escalation dominance. All Israel can threaten with is self destruction if they use a nuke.
Israel would be “playing itself” in that situation. #selfown

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 19 2024 16:53 utc | 58

Israel has escalation dominance… they have nukes and Iran doesn’t.
Posted by: Goldhoarder | Apr 19 2024 14:59 utc | 24
Martyanov says once Izzrael uses nukes, that’s the end of the regime.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxUQolIhhjg
Israel Ceases to Exist If It Goes Nuclear | Andrei Martyanov

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 19 2024 16:53 utc | 59

Real tight clamp down whatever the …. went down. All I can believe is that it was a small number of israeli aerial weapons, maybe Iranian f-14’s from the 70’s.
The Kurdish influenced area of Iraq, where a Mossad cluster was demolished comes to my mind. If any missile originated from there, oh my. Seperate issue – definitely will also add impetus to the ejection usOfa troop from Iraq.
On the Hezbollah Al-Manar and Al-Mayadeen sites for today. Al-Mayadeen quite silent, one of the leads is the heavy israeli incursion in West Bank into Tulkarm. Important, but …
Al-Manar has https://english.manartv.com.lb/2091278 buttressed with video clips from PressTV.
Lost in the overall buzz is what appears a near simultaneous israeli strike in Syrian on possibly Syrian troops and not IRGC-axisofresistance
https://english.manartv.com.lb/2091487 Six israeli jets (fired from Lebanon??)
A more quiet night and morning possibly for Hezbollah ATGMs and missiles
https://english.manartv.com.lb/2091751 excepting a possible very strong reaction to a reconn group coming in from israel.
Islamic Resistance fighters target a gathering of Israeli soldiers near Ruwaisat Al-Alam site in the occupied Lebanese Kfarshuba Hills with missiles, achieving direct hits: statement
But most important, it appears there will be even new levels of depravity from israel and the iOccf in Rafah. And the increase of violence and land theft in the West Bank that was starting (imho) in September or prior will ramp up even more.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Apr 19 2024 16:56 utc | 60

Posted by: Michael A | Apr 19 2024 15:17 utc | 29
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We never seem to talk about how much and what kinds of systemic trauma the Zionist government of Occupied Palestine has endured and is probably inflicting on the next generation of race supremacists.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 19 2024 16:57 utc | 61

Mark2 | Apr 19 2024 16:47 utc | 57
No one move or the jew gets it 🙂
“So its alot of wind then…..” add in the campfire scene.
Certainly beginning to look like a Blazing Saddles, bean powered empire at the moment. Though still capable of plenty of death and destruction against the defenceless.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 19 2024 16:57 utc | 62

Note, analysis from several middle eastern sources have suggested that this was not an “official” attack by Israel, but a provocation by rogue actors keen to, quote, “get the show on the road”, meaning of course starting a hot war between Iran and Israel.
Iran has rightly recognised this provocation for what it is and has rightly ignored it officially.
Note also that there are currently several fundamentalist groups in both Israel and the US who are keen to, quote, “slaughter the Red Heffer and begin the rebuilding”. An alter has been built in Jerusalem opposite the Dome of the Rock.
According to a well known religious scholar, “The attack on Iran was an amateurish and pathetic attempt to
start WW3 and bring about
eschatological prophecy”.
A good search of middle eastern telegram channels will provide all the “links” and “references” required to support the above, and show how and who brought the “dummy” missiles into Iraq.

Posted by: Jonas001 | Apr 19 2024 16:58 utc | 63

The Iranian response to Israel’s bombing of the Iranian consulate, which claimed the lives of several Iranians and others, and despite what some schmucks might consider largely ineffectual, has far-reaching implications. Most experts I follow agree that Iran’s attack was very effective and extremely well executed, demonstrating advanced strike capabilities by Iran. Israel and its allies fully-expecting the strike and were well prepared. Yet the dense, multi-faceted air defense operation failed to stop Iran’s missiles hitting their mark.
The pretend attack of last night I think demonstrates Israel’s new-found respect of Iran’s response capabilities. Attacking Iran and Iranian interests in the future will come at a very heavy price for Israel.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Apr 19 2024 16:58 utc | 64

The Western system of International Law (and Justice) has vanished.
Palestine and Iran are currently performing medieval “Trial by Combat”.
Except, even if victorious against their opponents in the ring, they will have to fight the judges, the jurors and probably even half the audience to merely win the right to live …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 19 2024 17:02 utc | 65

Question:
What is the resemblance between the Easter Rising and 7 October 2023?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 19 2024 17:03 utc | 66

I don’t see any footage or photographs of smoke over Iranians’ cities, rubble, etc. like we saw damage of the consulate, and we saw smoke and craters in Israel.
If there was any damage in Iran it was far away from habitation and cameras.
Any evidence to the contrary?

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 19 2024 17:07 utc | 67

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Apr 19 2024 17:07 utc | 67
I don’t see any footage or photographs of smoke over Iranians’ cities, rubble, etc. like we saw damage of the consulate, and we saw smoke and craters in Israel.
If there was any damage in Iran it was far away from habitation and cameras.
Any evidence to the contrary?

Looks like two potentially world-changing attacks resulted in no casualties.
Performative?
At the least: very strange.

Posted by: scorpion | Apr 19 2024 17:16 utc | 68

@Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 19 2024 17:03 utc | 66
Countdown to Passover.

Posted by: librul | Apr 19 2024 17:17 utc | 69

The embassy attack was very successful. Two top commanders scratched. Holocaust guilt nerve touched to remove any trace of the aid workers “unfortunate accident”. Ongoing deprivation of Palestinians basic food and water- physical and mental torture. Non topic.
A lesson is being taught. Its not just about the Palestinians. When compassion is ignored, suffering propagated and the world averts its eyes it effects things.
Israel will finish off the Palestine people in this horrible fashion. We get to live with the facts that our societies allowed it. The soothing words of the officials using terminology that smooths the reality.
The lesson is for us as well. We will be the living incarnation of the lesson the Palestinians will be gone.
Their legacy will live in our misery.

Posted by: misnomer | Apr 19 2024 17:21 utc | 70

The relevance to this thread is this: if Israel uses nukes on Iran, what would Russia do?
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Apr 19 2024 14:42 utc | 17
Tom, Russia has stated that it has Iran’s back. This doesn’t mean it will do anything in the case of nuke usage though. Looking at a map, you’ll notice what a small country the entity is. Even a decapitated Iran will have its armed forces intact and they will come down with wrath and fury, wiping out the entity, entirely, with conventional missiles. Iran did just demonstrate that it can easily attack and found new openings in the defenses by making a show.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 19 2024 17:23 utc | 71

Recall that on Oct 6th, 2023
Netanyahu was three months away from annexing much of the West Bank.
What options were available for the Palestinians on Oct 6th?

The countries involved in the Abraham Accords did not publicize it at the time, but Netanyahu’s commitment to not annex the West Bank was limited in duration. Days after the normalization agreement was announced in September 2020, three sources familiar with the negotiations told The Times of Israel that then-US president Donald Trump gave the UAE a commitment that Washington would not recognize any Israeli annexation move until 2024 at the earliest.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/uae-envoy-de-facto-west-bank-annexation-unfolding-but-our-ability-to-stop-it-wanes/

Posted by: librul | Apr 19 2024 17:24 utc | 72