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March 11, 2024
Why Non-White Voters Are Moving Away From Democrats

The Democrats fear that they are losing support from non-white voters.

Polling data indeed shows that parts of the non-white voters are shifting away from the Democrats and towards the Republicans.

John Burn-Murdoch, chief data reporter for the Financial Times, has looked at the reasons why that is being the case.

John Burn-Murdoch @jburnmurdoch – 14:39 UTC · Mar 11, 2024

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American politics is in the midst of a racial realignment.

I think this is simultaneously one of the most important social trends in the US today, and one of the most poorly understood.


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Last week, an NYT poll showed Biden leading Trump by less than 10 points among non-white Americans, a group he won by almost 50 points in 2020.

Averaging all recent polls, the Democrats are losing more ground with non-white voters than any other demographic.

A further investigation of this trend finds that there are three factors involved in this.

The first, according to Burn-Murdoch, is memory. The civil rights movement in the 1960s aligned lots of non-whites with the Democrats. But since that movement was at least somewhat successful younger non-white people are no longer bound by that.

Typically people become more conservative with age. Black Americans so far defied that trend. But as those who lived during the civil rights movement are dying away the effect dissipates.


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Another factor is that the Democrats have become a party of (many) rich people while the Republicans, at least in their rhetoric, have become more labor orientated.

Black Americans are economically on the poorer side of things. They may see more potential gain for themselves by voting Republican. 


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The third factor though, seems to be the strongest one. There were once a lot of conservative non-whites who still voted for Democrats. That is changing. More people are now aligning their choice with their ideology.

This may be because the society has become less segregated. Group pressure, for blacks to vote for Democrats, has thus dissipated. People have become more free to vote their mind. This allows natural conservatives, of all colors, to increasingly vote along their personal ideology.


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John Burn-Murdoch @jburnmurdoch – 14:42 UTC · Mar 11, 2024

[I]f you take one thing away from this thread:

The left’s challenge with non-white voters is much deeper than it first appears.

A less racially divided America is an America where people vote more based on their beliefs than their identity. This is a big challenge for Dems.

It is an especially big challenge when one's presidential candidate is one Joe Biden who has long thrived on black votes and a (fake) image of pro-worker policies.

The observed trend strengthens my assessment that Donald Trump is highly likely to win the next presidential election.

The longer version of the above discussion, with more graphics, has been published in the Financial Times:

American politics is undergoing a racial realignment – (archived) – FT, Mar 11 2024
Democrats are rapidly losing non-white voters as the forces that ensured their support weaken

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Biden will not be candidate in November:
– he has Alzheimer and Parkinson deseases;
– he is a sure looser.
Jus wondering when the msm will courageous enough to annouce his diseases…

Posted by: Naive | Mar 11 2024 17:20 utc | 1

The biggest factor is that US elections are manipulated and stolen.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 11 2024 17:24 utc | 2

Well one can hope I suppose but after Biden stole the last election and was installed behind thousands of troops and walls at the white house, i think the notion of anyone being elected to anything is quaint nowadays.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 11 2024 17:26 utc | 3

and another reason is democrats are destroying family values. minorities beleive men and women are separate sexes.

Posted by: Toxik | Mar 11 2024 17:26 utc | 4

Surprising that the author does not consider concerns over immigration (search – nada). An example of social theory being as useful as the construction of the most recent survey.

Posted by: dadooronron | Mar 11 2024 17:27 utc | 5

Why isn’t the obvious mentioned? It’s the Democratic support of Israel that is causing them to lose tons of Muslims and other non-whites.

Posted by: Samseau | Mar 11 2024 17:31 utc | 6

The irony is that the Dems opted in 2016 to go for the Pied Piper strategy, that is, to attract moderate Republicans disregarding the loss of their own traditional voters. However, they continued to pose as “centrists” (which they are not) or “progressives” (they are in fact regressives) and with their failures and the intensification of the culture wars, the intended constituency targeted to join them went for the original brand.
One could further add that identity politics can only go so far, though there is still political capital to be milked. Plus, there is still the backing of the Deep State for the Dems (for the time being).
In any case, what is important is the demolition of the imperial apparatus through any means possible. That may well come in the extremely unlikely possibility of Trump actually going anti-interventionist. More likely, the current policies will continue, but the hoped for change won’t be forthcoming. That might bring significant disillusionment among consevative folks in US/UK as well as those Russians who still maintain illusions about their “allies” among the conservative core in the west.

Posted by: Constantine | Mar 11 2024 17:32 utc | 7

Interesting post, thanks B.
It’s clear to any right thinking mind that the DNC have lost theirs. The utter lunacy of the party is the biggest factor why they’re losing so many potential voters.

Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Mar 11 2024 17:33 utc | 8

I’m not really sure what barflies see in the American GOP. But let me say one thing about political participation in general in America, but in Louisiana in particular: last year we elected a governor and legislature with a mere 35% voter turnout. A Black Democratic party candidate ran against a white Republican who promised to undo the criminal justice reforms that had brought Louisiana’s incarceration rate down. Black political turnout was even lower. Why? Well, the Louisiana Democrats have been the GOP lite party for several decades. The incumbent governor, a “moderate” (i.e., far right) Democrat, was the one who banned abortion in the state, along with a Black Democrat legislator from Monroe, LA. The Louisiana Dems get to take full credit for having some of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country, which actually had to be amended so that women with ectopic and other life-threatening pregnancies could abort their pregnancies without being charged with murder. Louisiana’s Democrats, despite having a prominent fraction dedicated to serving elite Black interests, has done nothing for the poor people of the state, Black or white, and the aforementioned criminal justice reforms were piecemeal. There has been no guiding “social justice” ideology in the state party’s leadership. It has always been about being just slightly more liberal than the most crooked reactionaries the country has to offer (although Mississippi’s GOP has given ours a run for its money – bear in mind the Old Guard among these guys were all Democrats until the 70s-90s).
The Democrats are moribund in this state and actually somewhat likely to be replaced in the near future with an explicitly socialist party. This is because the budding socialist movement in our state actually does speak to the interests of the urban proletariat – the majority of the population, even here – and has no commitment to the status quo or any fraction of the ruling class.
But are Black people moving to the GOP? Maybe more than their fathers and grandfathers, but not really substantially. The GOP is still a racist party and still supports policies that would harm Black people as a group, such as the highly racialized mass incarceration regime here, which produces a higher incarceration rate than Stalinist relics like Cuba or the DPRK. They support the total erosion of the welfare state and the unleashing of the police to run amok in Black neighborhoods. The GOP in Louisiana is also targeting its majority Black cities when they step out of line (for example, Gov. Landry (R) promising to withhold funds to New Orleans, our biggest city and a major money-maker via tourism for our state, over not prosecuting women who seek abortions). The GOP in Mississippi has been doing the same thing for a long time with its capital city in Jackson, since it turned majority Black, as Jackson elects actually very left-wing governments, which have no power because the state government has “pre-empted” its ability to govern itself at all.
Again, I’m not sure why barflies think the GOP is anything other than what it is: a party of elite, white, interests, one which is not only fine with making war but which has led the Democratic party to act the same way. There are some voices in the party who pretend to be anti-war when it comes to Russia, but mainly because they see the Russians as white christian brethren who will be an ally against the yellow peril. And needless to say, the GOP is mindlessly enthralled to Zionism, and white American christianity sees Zionism as a means of immanentizing the eschaton.
So what’s the deal? Is it just schadenfreude? Why not take a more active interest in the legitimately socialist parties in the US that do take principled socialist stances on war, the opposition to nationalism and support for proletarian internationalism?

Posted by: fnord | Mar 11 2024 17:46 utc | 9

The spox for the Uniparty commented ‘Meh’

Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Mar 11 2024 17:47 utc | 10

The gencide going on in Gaza which is fully supported by the Demcratic Party in the U.S., only gives non-whites, and other minorities reason to pause and think that if this genocide is successful, similar may happen to them also.
The Abandon Biden campaign so far has been successful, garnering some 100,000 votes for “Uncommited” in Michigan; enough to swing a presidential election. It is now spreading to other states as well. While at it, may as well expand the Abandon Biden movement to also “Abandon AIPAC.” That is for all U.S. voters to write their congressmen and senators to tell them to return any AIPAC money they may have recieved this year; and not to vote for anyone holding AIPAC money, or endorsing that organization in any way.

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Mar 11 2024 17:47 utc | 11

Anecdotally, the MAGA and MAGA-light minorities I’ve met in the USA use it as signaling mechanism (to themselves as well as to others) that they have made it, they are part of the doers and not loser takers, that they are real Americans now who are smart enough to know what’s up. A less verbose way of putting it is that the MAGA movement attracts stupid people who want to think they are savvy and smart.
I personally think the democrats have gone way too far with the whole trans/non-binary thing, BLM, etc. But to this day, the educated professional class is overwhelmingly centrist Democrat coded. Some smart rich people who really don’t like paying taxes become WSJ republicans and when they become old enough and senile transition into MAGA, but otherwise republicans are now the dumb people party. Foreign policy doesn’t figure into this. Almost no one really cares about Ukraine or Afghanistan or whatever.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 17:47 utc | 12

Identity politics and forging a broad coalition is now unsurprisingly becoming problematic.
Black men struggling to provide a good and safe life for their family have a firm idea on what politicians should be focusing on, and transvestite story time isn’t a priority to them. Nor is it to an immigrant single mom, or a devout member of a Christian or Muslim community.
Those who endured the effort to become legal immigrants are often opposed to open borders, as are those living in parts of a city that is competing for resources from beleaguered local and state governments.
Reading of hundreds of billions of dollars getting sent overseas is often irritating to anyone who doesn’t own stock in War Inc., and that too can affect how they view the party in control of the White House.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 11 2024 17:50 utc | 13

Doesn’t the religious factor, maybe more important for the poorest (mainly non-white), favoured votes for Republicans now ?

Posted by: John V. Doe | Mar 11 2024 17:53 utc | 14

Thank you, b.
Trump is attractive to the working class of all stripes. A large swathe of Trump voters are not diehard partisan Republicans or ‘conservative movement’ types. He has reached beyond the latter attracting many not all that politically motivated but feeling under economic and culture wars threat. Possibly also the extreme way ‘They’ have persecuted an ex-President with a whole slew of clearly flimsy charges following years of ‘Russia-Russia’ falsehoods has moved them into further identifying with him as a fellow oppressed victim of a heartless system which wishes them ill.
I suspect that a most of the pro-Democrat polls come via curated lists containing a stable of hard-core Dems who vote Blue no matter what. How can Biden possibly have a 45% or better favorability rating as per most recent polls yet with so many working class, blacks and hispanics moving over to Trump? According to a recent poll, Miami Dade County in Florida, a famous Democrat stronghold, has reversed from 55-45 D to R in 2020 (already a historically narrow spread) to 55-45 R to D in 2024 making it less likely the D’s can credibly get working class votes in the rust belt. Frankly, if Trump had the time and money he could probably make a play for New York, but since fraud is rampant there…
Fraud overhangs the entire exercise along with the likelihood that no matter the result the country is primed for widespread and extreme unrest.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 11 2024 17:55 utc | 15

Democratic response: It’s Putin’s fault!

Posted by: Jim Phillips | Mar 11 2024 17:57 utc | 16

I’m waiting to see if Trump is smart enough to stay as quiet as possible while Biden softly implodes, and when he does have to speak of the Middle East say, “I’ve always been a great friend to our ally Israel, and I always will be, but I never would have permitted Netanyahu to get away with all the senseless killing he’s ordered in Gaza. It made no sense.”
Cast Netanyahu as the villain, and Biden as his dupe. That being true should help a lot. If Trump can’t come across as less villainous than Biden in regards Gaza, then he’ll deserve to lose.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 11 2024 17:57 utc | 17

@ Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 11 2024 17:50 utc | 13
The only people hung up on drag queen story time are conservatives who have made a big deal about children seeing men in drag in public life. Believe it or not, that being the major issue for the conservatives hasn’t helped them electorally. While they could have been posed to pull off a 2010 mid-term style takeover of the House and Senate in 2022, they gay-bashed to their own detriment. Average person doesn’t give a shit about culture. The Democrats have stymied themselves by making themselves the party of the civil liberties status quo (i.e., won’t abrogate the first amendment because a guy wearing a dress offends christian fee-fees) but nothing else.

Those who endured the effort to become legal immigrants are often opposed to open borders

I’ve never really heard of people who survived cancer who got really mad because other people did too. The fact of the matter is that the GOP wants to make it harder to become a legal immigrant at all, and illegal immigrants are an easy demographic to attack, despite them not enjoying full rights as citizens in most of the places they live (Louisiana, for example, won’t give them driver’s licenses, which is just cruel and stupid). In any case, the Democrats are tailing the Republicans on this issue, too. VP Harris said “don’t come” if you’re trying to cross the border illegally. Biden has deported more people than Trump and is more likely to deport migrants than Trump was. Of course, for racists who just hate Latin Americans, or fear yellow peril, or think Hamas is coming up the southern border to do Al-Aqsa on Snowball, Arkansas, none of this matters. What matters is that Biden hasn’t postured enough as a racist. He hasn’t said “we’re going to defend white christian Amerika” in so many other words. He’s been very apologetic about having to do it at all, even though he’s done it worse than the guy who postured right. It’s funny, in a cosmic sort of way.

Posted by: fnord | Mar 11 2024 17:57 utc | 18

Negro and Mexican voters tend to have strong family ties and traditional values – those don’t jive with perverts and deviants in primary schools.

Posted by: Exile | Mar 11 2024 17:59 utc | 19

@ Posted by: John V. Doe | Mar 11 2024 17:53 utc | 14
The christian religion is in the decline in the US and has been for several decades. White and Black workers are less likely to be church-going folk than they ever used to be. Actually, that decline could be partly why Black people are less supportive of the Democrats today, and why working class political participation is down across the board: the Democrat political machine was partly run through the Black churches, and the Black churches aren’t seeing the attendance they used to. But voters aren’t going to the elite white racist party, they’re just dropping out.

Posted by: fnord | Mar 11 2024 18:01 utc | 20

From Israel’s parliament genocidal statements are now pouring fourth that are blatant and unambiguous, requiring no nuance or interpretation at all. “Kill them all”, “there are no Palestinians”.
Continued support for Israel in the west is equally unambiguous adoption and celebration of a murderous fascisic position. There are no other words to describe this. It can’t get any worse.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Mar 11 2024 18:02 utc | 21

“…the democrats have gone way too far with the whole trans/non-binary thing, BLM, etc..”
Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 17:47 utc | 12
There is a world of difference between commitment to the weird ideology of the trans movement and the perfectly sensible, age old and clearly necessary movement to put an end to Police Executions which impact poor people and, in particular, black people.
The idea that ‘Black Lives Matter” is a marginal movement like that to enable children to ‘change’ sex, or as it used to be known, castrate themselves tells us more about the poster than it does about the issue.
If ultra right racists can’t see this, black people can.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 11 2024 18:02 utc | 22

LOL. More election propaganda.
Who cares whether non-White voters are voting for the Demorats or the Republicons?
Democrats vs Republicans=the Crips vs. the Bloods.
It’s one gang vs another gang.
Voting is for suckers, who still believe in the Professional Wrestling-style scam called American democracy.
Or as Frank Zappa once put it, “Government is the entertainment division of the Military-Industrial Complex.”

Posted by: ak74 | Mar 11 2024 18:08 utc | 23

A couple of posters have claimed that the Dems pro-Israel stance is hurting them. But as far as I can tell the R’s are just as pro-Israel. There really isn’t any daylight between them on that front.
Viz the election you have had RFK Jr, Biden, Trump, deSantis and Haley ALL fully supportive of Israel. The two main right-leaning webzines, Breitbart and Gateway Pundit, have no end of anti-Hamas pieces every day intimating that any so inclined are anti-American. I have seen neither publication feel the need to present an article going into any depth arguing why such a position is reasonable; it’s just assumed as a given. I presume most left-leaning publications are the same.
The US Republic has been captured for a long time now. That’s why am unpersuaded that Israel is a US Empire aircraft carrier. The US is incapable of independent foreign policy because it was politically and economically captured long ago by hostile, foreign agency posing as fellow citizens.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 11 2024 18:10 utc | 24

Posted by: fnord | Mar 11 2024 17:46 utc | 9
Thank you
very informative post about Louisiana along with a good description of the rotten core of the Republican Party: a bunch of spoiled frat boys and girls running both parties.
Bottom line, our empire is collapsing, we won’t be able to just “vote” our way into a better system. Organize and inform locally but take a stand on all key issues.

Posted by: migueljose | Mar 11 2024 18:13 utc | 25

Perhaps non-whites are just sick of being used, abused and forgotten. It was the Clinton machine that blew up the prison population (vastly minority), ended welfare for the people (while giving it all to rich and corporations) and Obama and Biden just kept it going.
The only thing republicans really lie about is legislation titles. You know if it includes ‘liberty’ ‘freedom’ or ‘patriot’ get ready for a heavy dose of fascism.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Mar 11 2024 18:14 utc | 26

I remember in university, one of my economics professors asked, where is it most logical for two competing gas stations to position their locations on a single road? Everyone gave one variant or another or 1/3 of the way down. The professor made a sly smile and said no, the most logical place would be right next to each other in the exact middle of the road. Everyone to the left of the center would go to the one ever so slightly left of center, and everyone to the right of the center would go to the one ever so slightly right of center. Of course this was a parable for political parties. They have to maintain just a bit of distance from each other to motivate people to vote at all, but their policies when viewed from a distance are reasonably similar. One party wants you to go bankrupt and die if you get seriously ill without insurance (“you deserve it loser”), the other wants to give you sh*tty overpriced insurance with deductibles not far from your disposable income lol. As one instance of the difference

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 18:20 utc | 27

>>The Democrats fear that they are losing support from non-white voters.<< ignorant lede dems don't fear ... dems don't care ... dems same as repubs dems don't care for Palestinians ... dems care for $$$

Posted by: dfnslblty | Mar 11 2024 18:27 utc | 28

Biden is a lulling mo-ron (on a good day), but I do not think Trump will be able to do anything more of note, even if he has the intentions.
The DeepState, NeoCons and liberal capitalism has made USA ungovernable as independent entity. How is America going to get out of the debt problems; an MIC with the addiction force of crack and ongoing military failures all over the globe.
An elected Biden in November will be the pedophile Caligula with Pick’s dementia (nastiness, angry, mean-spirited, foul), but an elected Trump will be operating as the American equivalent of Michail Gorbatschew.
USA is up for a crash-landing and even a good pilot can only make it less destructive but still a disaster.

Posted by: Norwegian Pawn | Mar 11 2024 18:30 utc | 29

The Gaza war is another example. Let’s be honest, the republicans would enthusiastically support Israel killing tens of thousands of Palestinians, meanwhile irl the democrats materially fully support Israel in its campaign, but act kind of sad about it.
Regarding great power politics, democrats really dislike Russia and want to go hard against it. Some republicans want to make a deal with Russia in order to then go to war with China (while other more centrist, reasonable Republicans think we should take on both Russia and China at the same time)

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 18:31 utc | 30

I presume most left-leaning publications are the same.
Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 11 2024 18:10 utc | 24
Totally incorrect. The vast majority of left-leaning sites I have seen (counterpunch, consortium, democracy now, intercept, grayzone, jacobin, truthout, etc) are completely anti-zionazi if not 100% pro-Palestinian.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Mar 11 2024 18:35 utc | 31

It seems obvious to me the “plan” that is being set up by those who have been doing the setting up for the last 50, 75, 100 years is to get Trump back in the seat of the clown car. The fact that they are even considering/insisting on putting up Biden as the contender proves this IMO.
This combined with all of the top potentially powerful senate and congress people who have been up and quitting with all their potential in front of them,
“As of March 8, 2024, 51 members of Congress—eight members of the U.S. Senate and 43 members of the U.S. House—announced they would not seek re-election in 2024.”
https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_U.S._Congress_incumbents_who_are_not_running_for_re-election_in_2024#:~:text=As%20of%20March%205%2C%202024,seek%20re%2Delection%20in%202024.
and Nuland quitting (yes she quit not fired) it sure seems like they are setting things up for the “Big Ugly”.

Posted by: jef | Mar 11 2024 18:37 utc | 32

Interesting, but I do suggest that the first graph is a bit misleading.
Ignoring the hypothetical projecting “arrows” at the far right, we see that in 1964 about 100% of non-white voters went democratic, but in 2020 75% of non-white voters went democratic. BUT: the fraction of voters that is non-white is way, way larger today than in 1964! (Coming up on 50% real soon now) The NET impact of non-white voters on boosting Democratic candidates is huge and has been growing.
I mean: suppose that 100% of 10% of the population votes Democratic for racial reasons. Now suppose that 75% of 50% of the population votes Democratic for racial reasons. That’s about 37% of the voting population, a lot more than 10%. Yes?

Posted by: TG | Mar 11 2024 18:38 utc | 33

Anyone know the absolute numbers?
How many in the ethnic groups who can vote?
How many actually registered to vote?
How many who do vote?
How many of them who are postal voters?
That aside :
Most Americans of every demographic will now have reconciled that Obama was a fraud. Even if they don’t care about the murders and bombings of non-Americans.
It was false hope and no change.
Continued austerity and death by cop and incarceration.
The Bidens , Clinton’s , Maxwell-Epstein , Hunters laptop and any number of now well known afroamericans who are batting for Trump. As a protest almost means there will be changes to votes. Being America though the huge amounts of money will as usual deliver the Collective votes of many who don’t give a flying …
Same happened in the U.K. with ukip single issue Brexit voters. Many staunch demographics voted as a means of protest against Immigration from the EU – because real income has not gone up since the GFC!
Many bought into the Zionist lies of AS against the last hope we had – twice!
And here we go again.
Pantomime season.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 11 2024 18:39 utc | 34

The structure of the Democratic Party has always been to keeps its various constituencies as isolated and antagonistic as possible, with the Party itself as the only unifying factor. That is why it constantly plays off workers against minorities against women against queers against young people, etc etc etc. This guaranteed that no faction would ever be powerful enough to, well, demand that the Democrats actually do something. This would leave the Party leadership free to talk in generalities but never have to fight to make anyone’s life better.
It all had to collapse at some point, I guess now is as good a time as any.

Posted by: Bob | Mar 11 2024 18:39 utc | 35

Perhaps we will all get lucky and at the 1st debate, if there is one, someone will blow up the entire building like it was a Gaza apartment block.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Mar 11 2024 18:40 utc | 36

Posted by: Bob | Mar 11 2024 18:39 utc | 35
“It all had to collapse at some point…”
Most certainly! Hopefully bystanders don’t get busted, too.

Posted by: Dors Venabili | Mar 11 2024 18:50 utc | 37

Posted by: hedlykarok | Mar 11 2024 18:35 utc | 31
I presume most left-leaning publications are the same.
Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 11 2024 18:10 utc | 24
Totally incorrect. The vast majority of left-leaning sites I have seen (counterpunch, consortium, democracy now, intercept, grayzone, jacobin, truthout, etc) are completely anti-zionazi if not 100% pro-Palestinian.

That’s interesting, though your selection is from the alternative not mainstream left-leaning. Alternative right-leaning tend to be critical of Israel too (Unz, Rockwell, PCR) but not the mainstream (TGP, Breitbart etc.) (I also just checked Epoch Times and in their entire web front page with dozens of articles not a single result from a search for the word ‘Israel’).
I wonder if the alt-left and alt-right publications are the ones not supported by Jewish donors? Because certainly, it seems, the mainstream publications on both sides are.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 11 2024 18:53 utc | 38

Let’s give them something to talk about, baby
A little mystery to figure out
Let’s give them something to talk about
How about selection?

Posted by: 2+2=5 | Mar 11 2024 18:54 utc | 39

You DO realize that non-white voters have always been a big part of the 50% which never votes? Lots of poor Whites never vote, either. It’s been perfect;y obvious for many years that the D. Party only supports issues high the pyramid of needs, of interest to upper middle class “gentry” people and spurns basic food and shelter issues, of importance to lower class people, npn-white and white alike?
Neither D or R party could win dogcatcher if other parties were allowed.

Posted by: lester | Mar 11 2024 18:58 utc | 40

My good leftist friend holds two contradictory ideas at the same time:
1] We have the best kind of government; “democracy”
2]The majority of voters, lower class peons, need to be told what is good for them. The EXPERT knows best.
[the average person needs to be protected from “FAKE NEWS” and conspiratorial ideas

Posted by: Alfred Giesbrecht | Mar 11 2024 18:59 utc | 41

People of color are disallusioned by the militarism, neo colonialism, and the empire that democrats have made patriotism

Posted by: paddy | Mar 11 2024 19:02 utc | 42

Note well, that Just cuz Joe Blow hates the D(emoncrap) Party does not mean he love the Rep(tilion Overlord) Party. They are identical and many hate them both!

Posted by: lester | Mar 11 2024 19:05 utc | 43

My reasons for non-European Americans moving away from Democrats are different, although the less segregation point of view may have some validity. Democrats betrayal of the working class has been on display for quite some time, but Biden taking the lead to craft a law forbidding railroad workers from striking is too evident for workers to dismiss. More non-Europeans participate in the labor markets now than before. They cannot help but know Biden and Democrats are on the side of the industrialists and capitalists. Biden has done nothing to stop high incarceration rates or police murder. African Americans lives did not improve when Obama was president and suffered a backlash of police brutality that continued when Trump became president. Any poor people who think Republicans care about them more than Democrats has to be attributed to ignorance and susceptibility to demagoguery, but it is true Democrats are just as much servants to capital as Republicans and no poor people should ever vote for candidates from either party. Like everyone else in the US, all persons have become atomized under the Friedman political economy and inured to their own economic responsibility as an entrepreneur of the self. The breakdown of traditional communities has led to citizens considering their own needs within a social environment without class, race, and other groups importance and support being acknowledged. The one exception being large, big box and arena churches, which have become the primary organizations of reactionary demagoguery.

Posted by: Wilikins | Mar 11 2024 19:06 utc | 44

Good.
The Dem party had been the equivalent of a political slave plantation for blacks for a ridiculously long time.
Serving the billionaires while promoting racial politics, not class politics that would actually benefit the community generally, to the black wage slave, which has resulted in a huge increase in black poverty levels since the civil rights movement and the elevation of a few elite black stooges to put a diverse face on the whole disaster.
Also, I don’t think black voters are moving to the right of the Dems, but rather, like the working class as whole, they are faced with a genocidal lunatic destroying their standard of living while also playing nuclear chicken with Russia. With no apparent alternative, any alternative, even Trump, starts to look good.
I would say opposition to the dems divisive idpol, war and the attack on workers living standards are all progressive, left and possibly revolutionary sentiments. I suspect many black wage slaves are motivated to abandon the Dems for precisely these reasons. Oh, and the fact that Joe is obviously demented.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 11 2024 19:10 utc | 45

Identity politics: The ruling class’ favoured weapon against the revolutionary progress of the (working class) people.
Democrat and Republican. Conservative and Labour. Two cheeks of the same arse.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 11 2024 19:11 utc | 46

There is more sense being written in this thread than by the financial times regarding the reasons. The financial Times have lied about everything for decades.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 19:13 utc | 47

I wouldn’t trust the financial Times to take my bins out or take my granny to the bingo. I don’t read it as it is like playing away at neoliberal Utd.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 19:16 utc | 48

Posted by: Bob | Mar 11 2024 18:39 utc | 35
Well put, and all the excuse I need to post the ending voice over of Blue Collar.
[last lines]
Smokey James: [voiceover echoing earlier line] They pit the lifers against the new boy and the young against the old. The black against the white. Everything they do is to keep us in our place.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077248/quotes

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 11 2024 19:17 utc | 49

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 17:47 utc | 12
“Anecdotally, the MAGA and MAGA-light minorities I’ve met in the USA use it as signaling mechanism (to themselves as well as to others) that they have made it, they are part of the doers and not loser takers, that they are real Americans now who are smart enough to know what’s up. A less verbose way of putting it is that the MAGA movement attracts stupid people who want to think they are savvy and smart.”
Why couldn’t it just be that they are savvy and smart, and discern that the Dem party stands for nothing except identity politics at best, or cultural Marxism at worst? The Dems have been the party of billionaires for a while now.

Posted by: Redman | Mar 11 2024 19:17 utc | 50

one particular indicator (of what I am not sure- stupidity, gullibility, foolish hopefulness, deceit more than anything else, self and external) is well reflected here where conservatives have their fingers crossed for Trump, and the more conservatives/haven’t had enough of nauseating policies of death and destruction underpinning the requirements to those who HAVE fatally poisoned our very habitat with their stolen products on the backs of taxpayers expect the Democratic National Committee to be anything but what it has clearly demonstrated.
You cant fix what isnt broken, and this system is working as they intend.
Any real solutions will not likely come from their ballots.
If we survive what they are doing and want to see happen, something will occur. It wont be a candidate.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Mar 11 2024 19:18 utc | 51

If it’s true that those in power will do anything to stop Trump, is it reasonable to think that Trump will be assassinated? Maybe even before the election?

Posted by: DenisSaintDenis | Mar 11 2024 19:19 utc | 52

The first job of the liberal is to destroy the left and make them toxic. By the time Kier Starmer is finished with the Labour party they will be out of power for decades.
The status quo remains.
Since the Berlin Wall was put on wheels this has always been the overall strategy.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 19:22 utc | 53

b, a fourth factor is that US non whites working in the economy see their livelihood and their wages under pressure from Democrats seemingly allowing unchecked immigration across the southern border.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 19:24 utc | 54

“MAGA movement attracts stupid people who want to think they are savvy and smart.”
Amen to that , you just need to watch Steve Bannon in his war room talk about the tax payer money myth, the deficit myth and debt myth to know immediately they are completely bonkers.
Their cure, their secret potion to fix things – art laffer trickle down.
These people have been around for centuries, normally standing on street corners promising potions that will make your hair grow back or make you 40 years younger. One sip out of their bottle of rose water and a cripple will walk again.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 19:33 utc | 55

Biden will not be candidate in November:
– he has Alzheimer and Parkinson deseases;
– he is a sure looser.
Jus wondering when the msm will courageous enough to annouce his diseases…

Posted by: Naive | Mar 11 2024 17:20 utc | 1
It takes some courage to be the king’s assassin while everybody else in the party is taking cover. I have been counting on Obama to assume this role. But now I’m surprised that they waited until after Super-Tuesday, without even another name coming up – now it’s gonna be much harder to change horses, without exposing the king’s assassin in the media headlines. Maybe they tried the persuasion method for too long, underestimating Biden’s resistance.
I would be terrified if he should get another term – which would make me vote for Trump. if I was a US citizen.

Posted by: grunzt | Mar 11 2024 19:36 utc | 56

For me it boils down to most people don’t like war. The majority are scared of it.
Regardless of sex, religion and skin colour.
There’s only one person saying their ” might ” not be war.
We don’t even have that choice in the UK. Our options are war or war no matter who we vote for.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 19:42 utc | 57

Posted by: fnord | Mar 11 2024 17:46 utc | 9
Why not take a more active interest in the legitimately socialist parties in the US that do take principled socialist stances on war, the opposition to nationalism and support for proletarian internationalism?
<=yes, refuse to vote for "any person allowed on the ballot". <=America needs an American to occupy every seat in Congress, both positions [P and VP] of the executive branch, every position on the supreme court, every overseas ambassadorship, every UN representative, and every domestic and foreign position in the non-elected government [the bureaucracy]. Americans black, white, green, purple pr yellow Protestant, Jewish, Catholic, Muslim or whatever don't need a Reputard or a Democrap to occupy any office or to sit in important position in tbeir government. Americans need unbiased democratic Americans capable of serving to protect "our common humanity" from domestic and foreign privatized monopoly powers (the multinational corporations and the Oligarchs that own them). Worldwide, those with agendas use the nation state system [its law, treaties. politics, economy, trade agreements, militarized police, scientifically designed and engineered propaganda, etc.] to force the governed into environments that corrupt the purpose of government. Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 11 2024 18:10 utc | 24 The US is incapable of independent foreign policy because it was politically and economically captured long ago by hostile, foreign agency posing as fellow citizens.

Posted by: snake | Mar 11 2024 19:45 utc | 58

“The structure of the Democratic Party has always been to keeps its various constituencies as isolated and antagonistic as possible, with the Party itself as the only unifying factor. That is why it constantly plays off workers against minorities against women against queers against young people, etc etc etc. This guaranteed that no faction would ever be powerful enough to, well, demand that the Democrats actually do something. This would leave the Party leadership free to talk in generalities but never have to fight to make anyone’s life better.
It all had to collapse at some point, I guess now is as good a time as any.”
Posted by: Bob | Mar 11 2024 18:39 utc | 35
Its true.
In the 1964 at the Democratic convention LBJ aides were telling him how they hated the right wing dems, as LBJ was a left leaning Dem. There was much infighting; LBJ told his faction his idea:
“I’d rather have them in the tent pissing out, than outside the tend pissing in”

Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 19:46 utc | 59

This analysis is in fact identical in the effect as the one you have in the latest book from Emmanuel Todd : La défaite de l’occident (The defeat of the west).
To sum it up he analyse that USA has basically lost its religious (protestant) roots, which result in a positive effect: the very hard racism of the US society is also gone with the religious belief.
Yet the book is not going toward a positive outcome as it also cause a form of nihilism in the US society which makes that for every conflict US is involved in, the choice of doubling down and worsening the conflict will be made.

Posted by: W | Mar 11 2024 19:47 utc | 60

“We don’t even have that choice in the UK. Our options are war or war no matter who we vote for.”
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 19:42 utc | 57
Instead of pontificating and boring posters to death why not get off your and join George Galloway’s Worker’s Party and work for the local candidate instead of crying and moaning like an old woman.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 19:51 utc | 61

Posted by: Redman | Mar 11 2024 19:17 utc | 50
An alarm goes off whenever I read a Nazi trope…
https://fair.org/home/cultural-marxism-the-mainstreaming-of-a-nazi-trope/

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 11 2024 19:59 utc | 62

I think it was the writer Joe Bageant who, 20 years ago, wrote that the US Democrats had become a party of mostly middle-class, self-styled “progressives” who were failing to contact and communicate with the working class poor and other maeginalised groups through grassroots community organisations. This was giving more conservative political operators an opening to reach out to poor communities, making a show of support for these communities’ problems, in order to garner political support and votes for themselves. Bageant observed these trends in areas where he lived and travelled in the US before he left the country to live in (I believe) Belize.
Similar phenomena can be observed in other Western nations like the UK and Australia where formerly labour-oriented parties have lost their connections with working-class people and, like the US Democrats, have become obsessed with identity politics while living standards and quality of life for most people are deteriorating.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 11 2024 19:59 utc | 63

I guess the new definition of liberal is all the crap that Biden is. It is actually a relief if this article ends up being close to reality.
So liberals crushed the left so brutally and effectively that there is no more reason to vote for democrats at all. The left has the problem now of starting our own party, knowing that billionaires will work to subvert us every step of the way.
There will be rough parts with republicans having all three branches of the US government. But the current trajectory leads us all to a very bad place anyways.

Posted by: Woke American | Mar 11 2024 20:01 utc | 64

The plan now might be not to replace Biden, but to allow him to hand the baton to Harris, and let her choose a Hispanic man as her running mate, preferably somebody who served the Obama administration. Make it a totally historic ticket in multiple ways, and shore up the Black, Hispanic, Women, and even South Asian voters, as Harris has that ancestry as well.
Julian Castro is still relatively young, and his presence on the ticket would signal the strong blessing of President Obama.
So unless Trump picked a young running mate like Gabbard, Lake, etc., the Harris led ticket would look significantly more youthful, and signal a changing of the guard. Not in reality of course, but it could be spun that way.
Might be good insurance for Trump to pick Gabbard, as she is feared, albeit her recent support for Israel was extremely disappointing. Though she has been much more subdued about that of late. She caught a ton of blowback from her long time supporters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Castro

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 11 2024 20:03 utc | 65

How ungrateful for them to not clap for Biden Ghidorah, Democratic Party Mothra, and CNN & MSNBC Mothra Twins! If they don’t vote for Biden Ghidorah they must not be non-white-voters. >:( So sayeth the Biden Ghidorah!
😉 I am amused to see where this rebellion will go. But who will truly save Matchbox City Neo-Tokyo?

Posted by: titmouse | Mar 11 2024 20:08 utc | 66

LOL. Does the chart look like a penis because America is f…ed?

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Mar 11 2024 20:10 utc | 67

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 18:20 utc | 27
And yet the efficient location of the two gas stations – to minimize average travel time of customers, assuming uniform distribution of them – is at 1/4 and 3/4 on the unit interval!

Posted by: spudski | Mar 11 2024 20:11 utc | 68

Biden is a better choice for Americans who are focused on climate change, racism or gender-these are legitmate issues. For the Foreign Policy crowd on MOA, why we are all here, I dont see the arguement for Biden. We know Trump is going to be better on Ukraine and he is a wildcard on Palestine and China, where Biden has proven himself willing to engage in genocide. We know the very large Evangelical Republican base are fanatical and easily manipulated on Israel, which Trump will undoubtedly have to appease somehow, but what exactly that looks like is anyone’s guess. Killing Soleimani and moving the capital to Israel may have been a move to get the bloodlust of the NeoCons, AIPAC and Israeli’s off his back without engaging in War with Iran. While I agree that Trump will have all the bluster and will make enormous threats, that could be Trump the showman. What could possibly be worse than a genocide and 1/2 million dead Ukrainians. Trump wasnt moving to a hot war with China during his term, he was engaged in an economic one which had legitimacy considering China’s business practices.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 11 2024 20:12 utc | 69

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 11 2024 20:03 utc | 65
Agree. A Trump ticket with Tulsi Gabbard on it, or Tucker Carlson, would be as much as I dare to hope. Never mind they all appear to be pro-Israel. Some are just going through the motions in order not to ruin their chances, by taking on AIPAC as an enemy.

Posted by: grunzt | Mar 11 2024 20:21 utc | 70

The situation is actually quite simple. When the Democrats – Clinton and beyond – abandoned the working class in search of Wall Street and corporate money, they also abandoned most of their labor-friendly rhetoric and embraced the new “identarian politics” (mostly corporate rainbow- and green-washing) and catered to the technocracy birthing in Silicon Valley with Wall Street financial backing. The Republicans started to fill the narrative void and it was a smooth transition to add the “new” culture war narratives to the vacuum in the Democrats’ working class relations. Hillary didn’t even personally campaign in the “Rust Belt” believing those areas to be ‘in the bag’ for any Democrat running for elected office (and having written off West Virginia entirely).
With a choice between to parties that bore no fundamental differences to each other where labor and the working class is concerned, and with the preponderance of dire and hyperbolic scare-mongering from both sides, many voters (white and non-white) among the working class took the ‘conservative’ road and started voting for Republicans. This temporarily changed with the Bush/Cheney warmongering after 9/11 and Obama rode the “Hopey Changey” wave to the Presidency.
Voters began to see through the veneer of faux Corporate Democrat populism, never more so than when the DNC was exposed actively sabotaging the very popular Bernie Sanders and Trump, being the master salesman stepped in to do an end around and attack Hillary from “the left” on economic and populist issues. Of course it was all just PR and messaging, but it was very effective because Hillary was already hugely unpopular among a wide swath of people otherwise inclined to cast their votes for the Democrats in a sort of holdover LOTE choice, and there was no hiding the fact that the DNC gave itself permission to override the desires of their own voters to install whatever candidate they wanted to (always the one most favorable to the MIC and Wall Street). Who among this group of pre-conditioned people wouldn’t vote for an outsider promising to drain the swamp?
Rather than long term changes to voting patterns, I see this as a whipsaw effect, or roller coaster if you will. The American voting public will never again have a choice between candidates for high elected office that represents any significant threat to the “establishment” (Wall Street, MIC, mass media, Beltway elite) status quo. Americans are stuck choosing between the best salesperson on the basis of increasingly polarized (and largely meaningless to the average person) culture war bullshit and forced to hold their noses and vote for whichever party/candidate is telling less obvious lies. This will hold forth in a cyclical fashion until a major break in the armor of the establishment and their levers of manipulation and control can be achieved. IOW, not any time soon without a cataclysmic event like a new Great Depression, Civil War or World War.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 11 2024 20:23 utc | 71

They are pivoting towards China and Trump won’t go to war against China.
He’ll do what he did the last time thinking he was losing the trade war against China when the US was winning it big time. Do things that he thinks hurts China that only helps them. China will chuckle behind his back like they did the last time.
So it will be a win, win for the sane countries on the planet who don’t want war.
Trump no doubt knows that when you go shopping, buying at the lowest price is the mark of a winner, while paying too much is the mark of a loser.
Yet, when it came to his tariffs wether it was buying lumber from Canada, cars from Germany, and steel and aluminum, Trump was retaliating against other nations for not charging Americans enough for their products. Putting the prices up on these products with his tariffs.
And while everyone knows that buying at the lowest price is a good thing, there was no serious push back from Democrats, the ‘free trade’ Republicans, the media or any of the headline mainstream analysts. There is clearly something very wrong with their underlying mainstream logic that leads to this type of costly Presidential blunder.
Trump will do exactly the same thing again because he is an idiot and the Bannon MAGA war room will cheer him on.
Yes, when the US buy imports jobs are lost, just as when we replace workers with machines, including lawn mowers, vacuum cleaners, and power washers, jobs are lost. And yet somehow the US survived all that.
They went from needing 99% of the people working to grow their food to less than 1%, and manufacturing jobs are down to only 7% of the labor force. And yet the remaining 90% of all Americans are not all unemployed, as jobs have proliferated in the service sector, where most of those jobs are now considered to be better jobs than the lost agricultural and manufacturing jobs.
Nor has a trade deficit necessarily resulted in higher unemployment or lower pay. In 1999, for example, the US had record imports with unemployment under 4% and inflation under 2%, and students were getting recruited for good paying jobs well before graduation.
The answer to sustaining high levels of employment and pay is fiscal policy. If for any reason, including more imports, weak demand at home is keeping unemployment too high or wages too low, the appropriate policy response is fiscal relaxation- either a tax cut or spending increase, even if that increases the public debt- and not to tax or otherwise drive up the cost of imports.
Unfortunately however, the policy that allows all of us to pay the lowest prices for imports and have good paying jobs to replace those lost because of imports has been taken entirely off the table by both Republicans and Democrats. Consequently a very good thing for America- lower prices of imports- has been turned into a very bad thing- unemployment, and all because of the fake news about the public debt that is supported by Republicans and Democrats.
The US public debt is nothing more than the dollars spent by the federal government that have not yet been used to pay taxes. Those dollars spent and not yet taxed sit in bank accounts at the Federal Reserve Bank that are called ‘reserve accounts’ and ‘securities accounts’, along with the actual cash in circulation.
Treasury securities (bonds, notes, and bills) are nothing more than dollars in securities accounts at the Federal Reserve Bank, functionally the same as dollars in savings accounts or CD’s at commercial banks.
Think of it this way- when the government spends a dollar, that dollar either is used to pay taxes and is lost to the economy, or it’s not used to pay taxes and remains in the economy.
Deficit spending adds to those dollars that were spent but not yet taxed, which is called the public debt. And what’s called ‘paying off the debt’ (as happens to 10’s of billions of Treasury securities every month) is just a matter of the Fed shifting dollars from securities accounts to reserve accounts- a simple debit and a credit- all on its own books.
(No tax payers or grand children required…) The ‘ability to pay’ is always there- it’s just a debit and a credit to accounts on the books of the Federal Reserve Bank. The fear mongering about the US running out of money or constraints by foreigners is simply not applicable to today’s monetary system.
And if you are worried about inflation, Trumps direct policy is to raise the prices all US citizens will pay for imports. That helps China.
The problem is of course “fixed exchange rate thinking ” which comes from mainstream economics and its everything is a veil over barter myth. There isn’t, and never has been, a universal exchange commodity that you can deny China that will somehow shrink its output.
In any national economy there is the pile of stuff you can make yourself, then there is the stuff you can get from somewhere else which makes your pile bigger (imports), and after that there is the amount of stuff you have to give to somewhere else which makes your pile of stuff smaller (exports).
The only reason to export is because you can’t get imports for promises (currency). If there are no imports on offer, then you may as well keep what you would have exported for yourself – redeploying manpower as needed to other areas.
By refusing Chinese exports, the West will free up production manpower that China can redeploy into its Military Industrial Complex.
All while making the pile of stuff the West has smaller.
The neoliberal globalist obsession with exports is the wrong focus. The obsession should be with imports and then providing as little as possible in exports to ensure they turn up.
There is a section of society that believes that everything should be sacrificed on the altar of ‘international trade’. Once you realise that exports are a physical loss to the country and imports are a physical benefit that increase our standard of living then you can switch that belief around.
Trump and Bannon’s MAGA war room doesn’t understand that The purpose of international trade is to gain as many physical imports as possible for as few physical exports as possible. That, along with full domestic employment, is how you maximise a nation’s standard of living.
China will remain Quiet as Trump continues to make the same mistakes. The world can breathe a huge sigh of relief. A win, win for the sane.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 20:23 utc | 72

”Biden is a better choice for Americans who are focused on… racism…”
Absolutely! Biden’s epic crime bill that locked up millions of Black folk gives racists a woodie. Biden showed how racism is done.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 11 2024 20:24 utc | 73

@152
Biden has crushed solar development in the US via aggressive policing of needed parts from China, and has been FAR worse for race and gender issues than Trump was.
When Trump was President, White Cops that killed Blacks faced court time with murder charges, and some lost. Not under Biden’s watch. The anti-woke agenda has FLOURISHED under Biden. Bring back the guy that moved the US culturally to the left!!!

Posted by: Woke American | Mar 11 2024 20:25 utc | 74

HRC has campaign hair

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 11 2024 20:34 utc | 75

Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 11 2024 20:12 utc | 69
A couple of comments. First off, Trump isn’t a wild card on Palestine. He’s on record expressing frustration with the situation and saying the Israelis should just “finish the job.” As you noted he moved the embassy to Jerusalem and killed Soleimani in addition to backing out of the deal with Iran. IMO, these weren’t calculated political moves, but rather an adherence to his true beliefs on those matters and done to please his biggest donor, none other than arch-Zionist Sheldon Adelson (who has since died).
To me, then, the question of Trump 2024 is how beholden he remains to the interests (read: money) of Adelson’s heirs (both ideological and familial) and whether there will even be a Gaza (or West Bank) left to protect or save. The Zionists are operating in turbo mode to “finish the job” in Gaza and we don’t hear much about it in the corporate media, but similar is brewing in the West Bank. The Zionazis and their settler front lines are escalating their harassment, theft, murder and accompanying rhetoric there seemingly to provoke another October 7 with a slightly different silhouette.
Similar calculus applies with Ukraine. I agree with you that Trump is a way better choice on that situation, but again the question of time enters the equation. If he wins the election, he won’t take office until mid January 2025. Can the Ukros hold on that long without suing for peace? I wonder how aware of the implications Moscow is. If I was prosecuting that war, and having achieved many objectives already, I might be weighing the options of continuing to grind Ukraine and NATO down in a war of attrition, or quickly closing it out so as to embarrass Genocide Joe and greatly hurt his election prospects in November. If the Russians can win decisively before then, Joe is toast. However, if FUKUSNATO can keep sending billions into the Ukraine vacuum and the war going with the occasional headline grabbing minor (and fake) “victory” it will be to Joe’s benefit.
I recommend to everyone reading to also check out Simplicius’s most recent SitRep and analysis. He closes with a passage written by a prominent Russian journalist in which the statements of Macron are addressed. The Russian people – assuming this man is correct – are galvanized and ready to see NATO take off the mask and send their own troops to Ukraine.
To live in less interesting times…

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 11 2024 20:36 utc | 76

Why trust pollsters more than astrologers? Tarot card readers? Readinjg messages from the gods in sheep livers are surely at least as reliable!

Posted by: lester | Mar 11 2024 20:40 utc | 77

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 11 2024 18:53 utc | 38
There is no ‘left-leaning’ MSM out there….they’re all controlled by their owners and advertisers.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Mar 11 2024 20:45 utc | 78

Tariffs Won’t Make America Great Again
There’s nothing inherently bad about a trade deficit. It doesn’t mean one side is winning and one side is losing. But understanding why one side has a deficit and the other has a surplus is an important part of understanding this discussion and whether it can be fixed with changes to trade policies.
Dumb fixed exchange rate thinking suggests otherwise.
The main reason the USA runs a trade deficit with countries like China is because it’s much cheaper to make stuff in China. US workers command higher wages because there are fewer workers and those workers demand higher wages to meet their higher living standards. The inverse is true in China where living standards are lower and there is an abundance of labour.
When multinational US corporations decide where they’re going to make their goods they can either choose the worker in the USA or the worker in China. In the last 30 years more and more companies are choosing the worker in China because that results in higher relative profits in the USA.
But the thing that many people don’t realise is that when those goods are made in China they are often reported as imports into the USA. So you have US companies selling US products that are made in China and reported as imports in many cases.
Of course, you might say that US workers are worse off because they have lost their jobs to the Chinese workers. This is true in some sense and wrong in another sense.
When US corporations make their goods in China they are then able to sell those goods at much lower prices in the USA. So while some workers are worse off the larger US consumer base is better off since the benefit to the US consumer is that they get the cheaper goods AND they have more money to spend elsewhere within the US economy.
Importantly, this results in demand in other parts of the economy which leads to job growth in other sectors of the US economy. US manufacturing has become a smaller part of the pie and other segments have offset that decline.
Trump want those jobs to come back to the USA and decided that raising prices on China’s exports is a good way to do that. In short, everybody ends up paying higher prices for all of those goods sold in the USA because corporations will pass on the costs to their consumers.
And if they decide to bring the jobs back then all those goods are now being made by an American worker which results in the same price increases to the end consumer.
In either case, this raises the cost of things like iPhones and reduces the amount of money we have to spend in other parts of the economy. Yes, it makes some manufacturing workers better off, but it makes most of America worse off.
Trump and Bannon’s MAGA war room think that making those imports more expensive is a good deal because Americans will then buy American produced goods which will increase the number of American workers building those goods. But the more likely outcome is that those jobs never come back because companies like Apple won’t just bring those jobs back to the USA – they will move them to places like Vietnam because they have to protect their profit margins.
The bottom line is it costs more to build stuff in the USA because they are better off than many other regions of the world. And by outsourcing the production of many goods and services thry make some workers worse off while making those products cheaper for everyone in the USA.
This is a good trade for a country where prices are inherently higher. Raising prices on these goods via tariffs doesn’t fix the problem it tries to solve and won’t lead to a trade surplus or fairer trade. In fact, it just results in higher costs for US consumers which makes most of American citizens worse off.
You can just about bet anything that Tariffs are Trumps plan. Better than WW3 for most of us, so we can breathe a huge sigh of relief. The US is already winning the trade war very successfully it is just due to ” fixed exchange rate ” thinking Trump and Bannon’s MAGA war room don’t realise it.
Fall completely for the tax payer money myth, deficit myth and debt myth.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 20:57 utc | 79

Why isn’t the obvious mentioned? It’s the Democratic support of Israel that is causing them to lose tons of Muslims and other non-whites.
Posted by: Samseau | Mar 11 2024 17:31 utc | 6
***
Islam is a religion, not a race. A lot of Muslims are white.

Posted by: Lucky Joestar | Mar 11 2024 21:05 utc | 80

I think Trump’s popularity with black folks is due to this song written by Prince & the Time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxomJgPpNTw

Posted by: Sentient | Mar 11 2024 21:06 utc | 81

Trump and Bannon’s MAGA war room don’t understand modern money. That is clearly very obvious if you watch the war room for fun.
Thus = Wrong solution each and every time.
Why ?
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=32931
Fixed exchange rate thinking.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 21:10 utc | 82

republicans are now the dumb people party.
Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 17:47 utc | 12
Smart people don’t vote.

Posted by: Honzo | Mar 11 2024 21:17 utc | 83

Trump re: Gaza “Finish the job!”
Trump re: Syria “We’ll steal the oil.”
Is he just being stupid and saying out loud the parts pro politicians know to keep quiet about, or is he deliberately ripping off the masque hiding America’s true policy? We know TDS victims will all say the former.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 11 2024 21:20 utc | 84

“Biden is a better choice for Americans who are focused on climate change, racism or gender-these are legitmate issues.” -Turk 152 | Mar 11 2024 20:12 utc | 69
Climate change is not a legitimate issue. The governments that pretend to be concerned about it obviously don’t think it’s important because they never take any of the obvious measure someone would if they believed it. They don’t outlaw super-yachts or private planes or personal sea-do watercraft. The don’t mandate zone heating for new construction in city cores. They don’t require geothermal heat for new-build homes. In short, they don’t act like they think it’s a real problem.
Biden is not a good choice for people who are concerned about racism. He is an inveterate racist, as seen in word (e.g. “you ain’t black”) and deed (the holocaust of black incarceration his enactments in the 1990s created. Furthermore, he encourages and supports the segregationist narrative of woke racial identity which is undermining all the progress in America of the last several decades.
And gender is a 4chan prank gone awry.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Mar 11 2024 21:30 utc | 85

nd Nuland quitting (yes she quit not fired) it sure seems like they are setting things up for the “Big Ugly”.
Posted by: jef | Mar 11 2024 18:37 utc | 32
“You cant fire me I Quit!

Posted by: RickM | Mar 11 2024 21:34 utc | 86

“white American christianity sees Zionism as a means of immanentizing the eschaton. –Posted by: fnord | Mar 11 2024 17:46 utc | 9”
Absolutely true! I wish more political writers would like this seriously.

Posted by: lester | Mar 11 2024 21:37 utc | 87

“So what’s the deal? Is it just schadenfreude? Why not take a more active interest in the legitimately socialist parties in the US that do take principled socialist stances on war, the opposition to nationalism and support for proletarian internationalism? – Posted by: fnord | Mar 11 2024 17:46 utc | 9”
Too many of us cannot overcome our Cold War pollitical education/brainwashing, I’m afraid.

Posted by: lester | Mar 11 2024 21:40 utc | 88

@ Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 11 2024 21:20 utc | 84
I think it’s always been pretty obvious that the bulk of Americans support the nakedly imperialist and genocidal ambitions of the most barbaric parts of the security state. Bush 2 wasn’t able to get bipartisan support for the Iraq war without appealing to the blood lust of Americans in general against Muslims in general following 9/11. People like Mike Pompeo, who Trump put in charge of the CIA and then the State Department once loyalists starting becoming scarce, got their start in war profiteering. And I’m sure you’ll agree that the deep state doesn’t stop at the official state – the reins are mostly in the hands of capital, which is heavily invested in war-profiteering, and whose interest is always in favor of a perpetual state of conflict, ideally low- to medium-intensity a la Ukraine or the West Bank occupation).
The Trump platform is nakedly imperialistic. I think you have to be too smart for your own good to think otherwise. When the first Trump term was all about shoring up American exceptionalism (which implies, also, that America is above and defines international law), why would you ever think otherwise? Because the pied pipers, Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard, told you that he’s secretly anti-war? The guy moved the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, assassinated Soleimani (undermining the battle against Sunni Jihadism in the Middle East), torched relations with China and used the Falun Gong cult’s newspaper as a mouthpiece.
“TDS” might as well describe the people who can’t get over their Trump-mania. The guy is no Julius Caesar. He’s a billionaire landlord who at every step has advanced the interests of the American ruling class, who had a decades-long relationship with Jeffrey Epstein alongside anti-globalist bugaboos like Bill Gates. He is of the same class as Bill Gates! While American cities reeled through riots against police brutality, he doubled down on police brutality and used the federal government’s police agencies to assassinate left-wing activists. What else has to be said against him? Genuinely, what’s the appeal, unless that’s a list of things you support?

Posted by: fnord | Mar 11 2024 21:40 utc | 89

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 20:23 utc | 72

“Think of it this way- when the government spends a dollar, that dollar either is used to pay taxes and is lost to the economy, or it’s not used to pay taxes and remains in the economy.”

What taxes does government pay? To whom?
Does “government pays taxes,” mean funding Pentagon –> cutting checks to Lockheed-Boeing-Raytheon + enlisted persons + officers/war administrators +base vendors/contractors etc?

Posted by: anonymous | Mar 11 2024 21:53 utc | 90

It’s actually easier than that.
It’s the candidates.
If Obama was running in 2024, it would already be game over as colored ppl and young would massively support him.
The same is not the case for Biden. Guy has a leg in the grave and resembles a rich racist white old man who yells at everything. It’s disgusting to see. And they are not wrong.
Trump is Trump I think we know what he is at this point and you either like him or tolerate him. Or hate his guts.
Politics is a clown show and the biggest clown usually wins.

Posted by: Comandante | Mar 11 2024 21:53 utc | 91

I wouldn’t trust the financial Times to take my bins out or take my granny to the bingo. I don’t read it as it is like playing away at neoliberal Utd.
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 11 2024 19:16 utc | 48
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My first reaction was exactly the same.
The US has suicidal Fentanyl Lloyd George, BLM, CRT, DEI, etc., etc., to thank for the changes augmented by the Dem obsession with what gender their voters are.
Intact families like not to be criticized for preferring intact families and having control over their children. Weakening enforcement of criminal law is another factor.
Trump is a battering ram against ‘the Establishment.’ I prefer RFK jr, but I am not sure about how far he will get. My GOP primary votes in NC left a blank for Presidential preference.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 11 2024 21:57 utc | 92

“An elected Biden in November will be the pedophile Caligula..”
Posted by: Norwegian Pawn | Mar 11 2024 18:30 utc | 29
You are defaming Caligula; yes Caligula had incest with his adult sister Drusilla, but he was not a pedophile like Genocide Joe!

Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 22:00 utc | 93

The big irony is that the Democrat party was the bastion of racial segregation and states rights in the Southern states from the Civil War through the 1960s. The Republican party was anathema to the South during this entire period. Not until Nixon’s southern strategy in the 1972 election did this begin to change. Southern whites migrated to the party of Lincoln and blacks remained in the party of Jefferson Davis. It is kind of an “only in America” story.

Posted by: Thomas | Mar 11 2024 22:01 utc | 94

Alastair Crooke, ‘Out of Touch With Reality’ – White House Fails to Navigate the Israeli Re-calibration Strategic Culture Foundation March 11, 2024

And the prime reason for the [Biden] declaration of war on Netanyahu? Gaza. Biden apparently didn’t appreciate the snub received in the Michigan primary when the Gaza protest vote surpassed 100,000 ‘uncommitted votes’. Polls – especially amongst the young – are flashing red warning signals for November (in no small part because of Gaza). Democratic national leaders are beginning to worry.

Posted by: Antonio Ferrao | Mar 11 2024 22:03 utc | 95

Comandante 91
No, both Biden and Trump will be looking for a grave to hide in when the ICJ rules that the US and UK are committing genocide against Palestinians. And the chainsaw wielding Zombie will smell them out and find them.
The Israelis will be evacuated to safety in Holodomor as Azov slaves.

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 11 2024 22:11 utc | 96

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 11 2024 20:36 utc | 76
“IMO, these weren’t calculated political moves, but rather an adherence to his true beliefs on those matters and done to please his biggest donor, none other than arch-Zionist Sheldon Adelson (who has since died).”
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Trump had too many religious figures in his inauguration to dismiss his allegiance to Zionism. On the other hand, his speech at the New York Arch Diocisis Al Smith Dinner shows he understands exactly how the religion game works.
He was remarkable in his Presidency in that he was the one US President in my lifetime that didnt start a war.
I appreciate William’s poignant comment.
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Trump re: Gaza “Finish the job!”
Trump re: Syria “We’ll steal the oil.”
Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 11 2024 21:20 utc | 84

Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 11 2024 22:12 utc | 97

Most things can be explained by two unspoken things. Here on MofA we all know how China overtaking USA has lead to all kind of impacts from trade, to Ukraine and especially leading to an inevitable end for Israel.
The other is wage and wealth inequality in Western countries which has reversed from 1980s lows and is back to 1930s highs.
This explains the whole woke thing (we good guys have to pretend we are being liberal by making 1 or 2% of minorities more equal while silently shafting 75% of the population – 85% of minority groups).
And it explains why a bald liar like Trump can gain millions of votes by just hinting he cares more for ordinary folk than the other liars. Campaigning for a wall is probably the single public policy by any party which can be associated with protecting American wages. (Brexit here in UK was exactly the same – and also got called racist).

Posted by: Mickey Droy | Mar 11 2024 22:20 utc | 98

It has nothing to do with foreign policy.
It has everything to do with elitist reality shaping which is simply too hard to accept.
And the top of that list is gender bending.
Black people are generally more homophobic, (with latin americans most accepting), but the transgender thing is simply too far, and does not require a scholar, or even high school graduate to see the falseness of it.
Once that corr belief is established, (that there are two genders), then they begin to notice how corporate/leftist culture keeps trying to make it false.
You can not escape it. Your job tries to train you otherwise, and entertainment pushes gender theory constantly.
The other leftist reality re-shapings are easier to accept, based on personal experiences, so not as influential in the swing, (ie critical race theory), bit eventually, everything the left outputs gets stained by the obvious multiple gender/transgender lie.
Lots of things are personal, but sex, the most, and therefore, the most subconscious and ingrained.
Second, is also related to sex, abortion, but that debate is well played out, and not as “anti-human”, as it us quite common, and has been for millenia, for people not to want a child or another child.
To cut their own childs genitals off, would be nothing short of madness.
(Circumcision is 1/100th of this.
Clitorectomies are 1/5th, and extreme, but done not to “affirm” a madness, but to inhibit procreation in resource poor ateas.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 11 2024 22:21 utc | 99

Oops. Most accepting of homosexuality are Asians in America, but they still trend conservative more than other minority demographics.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 11 2024 22:23 utc | 100