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March 19, 2024
Ukraine’s Demographics Again Dictate To End The Fight

The neoconservatives have launched their probably last attempt to save their project in Ukraine.

Edward N Luttwak @ELuttwak – 13:42 UTC · Mar 16, 2024

In Ukraine the age of conscription is 27, that is when people have started to work & have children. Naturally not many show up. Now they are discussing lowering the age to 25, still absurd. 18 is the right age, with bodies of growing strength. The Ukraine army is much too small

Following Luttwak's urging, a neocon Senate stooge jumped in:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) called on Ukrainian lawmakers Monday to quickly pass a mobilization bill that would make more citizens eligible to be drafted into the military, and he sharply questioned exempting men under 27 from the fight.

Graham called for the swift legislative action — even as U.S. lawmakers remain unable to reach their own consensus on aid for Ukraine — while visiting Kyiv, his first trip to the Ukrainian capital since he abruptly turned against a $60 billion aid package for the country last month.

Ukraine is already short of soldiers and ammunition, and Russia is advancing on the battlefield, having recently seized the eastern city of Avdiivka after a Ukrainian retreat. Ukraine’s new mobilization law, which has been under debate for months as the country faces a severe shortage of battle-ready troops, proposes lowering the country’s draft age to 25. Although citizens can voluntarily join the military starting at age 18, and men between 18 and 60 are banned from leaving the country under martial law, the draft has until now protected younger men — many of whom are students — from being forcibly mobilized.

“I would hope that those eligible to serve in the Ukrainian military would join. I can’t believe it’s at 27,” he told reporters Monday. “You’re in a fight for your life, so you should be serving — not at 25 or 27.”

We need more people in the line,” he said.

Hmm – who is this "we" please? Is this meant as a pluralis majestatis or as an admission that the whole war is not about Ukraine but about the selfish aims of some lunatic clique in Washington DC?

Neither Luttwak nor Graham seem to have any knowledge of Ukraine's demography. I pointed out six month ago that there are hardly a significant number of 18 to 25 year old left in Ukraine. If that cohort gets further diminished by senseless dying Ukraine's future will be even more bleak than it is now. Even the British nuts who earlier proposed to draft 18 year old Ukrainians have learned to shut up about it.

The graphic below, taken from Wikipedia's Demographics of Ukraine, presumes that Ukraine has a population of some 40 million:


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But the real population number in the areas under control of the Ukrainian government is by now only about 20 million, half of which are people of retirement age. Drafting the few men of age 18 to 25 will not help to win the war but will, over time, further depopulate Ukraine.

The new mobilization law in Ukraine is slow to move through the parliament. There are many reasonable objections to it. The law will probably pass in April to be signed in May and to be fully enacted by June. It will increase the real mobilization numbers by only a few percentage points.

If those who will be mobilized under it the new law will get the training required they will join the front only by fall. It is unfortunately more likely that they will be immediately send to the front line to die. Either way there is no doubt who will win the fight.

Alex Vershinin of RUSI correctly describes this is as a war of attrition:

Attritional wars require their own ‘Art of War’ and are fought with a ‘force-centric’ approach, unlike wars of manoeuvre which are ‘terrain-focused’. They are rooted in massive industrial capacity to enable the replacement of losses, geographical depth to absorb a series of defeats, and technological conditions that prevent rapid ground movement. In attritional wars, military operations are shaped by a state’s ability to replace losses and generate new formations, not tactical and operational manoeuvres. The side that accepts the attritional nature of war and focuses on destroying enemy forces rather than gaining terrain is most likely to win.

The West is not prepared for this kind of war.

But Russia was prepared for this, just as it had been during previous wars. It is the side which has accepted attritional warfare. It will win.

There are currently more daily losses in the Ukrainian army than newly mobilized men joining it. To surrender to the Russian forces is seen as a real opportunity.

It is high time for Ukraine to give up. Its supporters should urge it to do so.

As Vershinin closes:

Unfortunately, many in the West have a very cavalier attitude that future conflicts will be short and decisive. This is not true for the very reasons outlined above. Even middling global powers have both the geography and the population and industrial resources needed to conduct an attritional war. The thought that any major power would back down in the case of an initial military defeat is wishful thinking at its best. Any conflict between great powers would be viewed by adversary elites as existential and pursued with the full resources available to the state. The resulting war will become attritional and will favour the state which has the economy, doctrine and military structure that is better suited towards this form of conflict.

If the West is serious about a possible great power conflict, it needs to take a hard look at its industrial capacity, mobilisation doctrine and means of waging a protracted war, rather than conducting wargames covering a single month of conflict and hoping that the war will end afterwards. As the Iraq War taught us, hope is not a method.

Make peace you fools.

Comments

Dima on Military summary says the nazis in Ukraine want military units to make their own mobilization. Essentially TCC gives them lists and they go mobilize themselves.
Lindsey Graham was in Ukraine parliament telling them that USA will not give any weapons, money or ammo, but he said Ukraine needs to mobilize all young people.
Dima flat out said this is genocide. The only thing those people are good for taking a bullet to save a life of a more experienced soldier.
All the actual volunteers who wanted to fight Russia were already mobilized after the first few months, after that it’s merely forced mobilization.
France-west is sending troops because the mobilization law isn’t going anywhere in Ukraine and no one wants to fight.
Put shortly, the whole thing seems to be collapsing, as far as mobilization goes.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 19 2024 22:36 utc | 201

Lysias | Mar 19 2024 21:59 utc | 191–
NYC was also a notorious D-Party stronghold, a machine city, corrupt to the gills.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 19 2024 22:37 utc | 202

Tommy @ 15:
If you look at the graphic MoA posted very carefully, you will see that there is a slight surplus of males over females in all age categories from 0 years to 35 years. The male surplus is shown as dark blue.
This is actually a natural occurrence. In most human populations, there are always slightly more boys and men than there are girls and women in the age categories up to about 25 years. Statisticians expect that in the majority of countries, for every 100 girls, there will be 103 to 104 boys born, that is the average birth sex ratio.
(Of course, there are some countries like India for example where the birth sex ration may be 120 boys born for every 100 girls born, and this is not natural but due to women aborting unborn babies when they learn these babies are girls.)
What is really out of whack in that graphic is that the proportion of the Ukrainian population in the 15 – 35 age range (for both males and females) is so low, and that would be explained by several factors, among them military conscription of men (leading to their deaths on the frontline) and the large refugee flight, mostly of young people and young families whose members probably already had visas to go overseas even before February 2022. There probably also were a lot of young people away from Ukraine before February 2022, and if a similar demographic profile showing age-group breakdowns had been done before then, it might have showed something very similar in the young-adult age groups.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 19 2024 22:39 utc | 203

Figured out what all the nuke talk in the western msm, which by extension filtered into here, was about. Ran into super yuppie pan-EU architect cousin who I hadn’t seen in a while, retired but still working for elite clientele across the EU and Asia somewhat, total woke Euro socialist, was once a long haired hippie, think Tony Blair as your cousin. 40ys have past and for him it’s the same progressive left today as it was in 1975, working hard for the people, working hard for progressive change, the world goes round, he goes round, his mind stays home chained to the radiator.
In the end he’s just a provincial hick who got lucky, very talented, very focused, totally ego driven, and trapped in that ego reaffirming, self reinforcing, feedback cycle of old media, always on the internet but always referencing the old media online, very sad.
He’s strikingly worried the nukes will fly, utterly convinced Putin is the mad dog lunatic the media makes him out be. I just nodded in agreement, I instantly understood it’s the most hopeless lost cause imaginable. I’m sure his whole family including professional children and the 16y/o grandkid are of the same mindset. I know his friends and some of his work clients, I’m sure they are all on the same “Putin is an unhinged insane menace to humanity” wavelength.
All the prep work has been done to manufacture consent, I’m 100% certain the EU bourgeoisie, who are the societal gatekeepers, the controllers of the proletariat, the buffer for the elites and really all that matter politically, quaking in fear will give their full support to EU war with Russia. I saw in my cousin’s mind that destroying Russia is now the only hope to prevent nuclear war, his destruction, his families destruction, the destruction of mankind. The Bernays and Wisners out there know their ancient craft.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 19 2024 22:41 utc | 204

KMRIA | Mar 19 2024 18:00 utc | 120
*** The West is now discovering he is a fearsome opponent.***
Could do with being discovered rather a lot more, and soon.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 19 2024 22:42 utc | 205

Dima hosted Hudson, “22-Minutes of Hudson with Dima”. No, he wasn’t asked about Macron. There’re several new points made. Mix a cocktail and watch.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 19 2024 22:42 utc | 206

mass migrations, from war zones and plundered countries, woluld end as quickly as their causes ended.

Maybe the mass migration being encouraged and carried in the EU and USA isn’t just to drive wages ever downward
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 19 2024 21:25 utc | 177
Let’s look at Spain. Spain’s unemployment rate (12%) is the highest in the European Union.. Double that (28%) for youth unemployment. Spanish unemployment rate is the same as in North Africa – Morocco, Algeria. About three times the U.S. unemployment rate.
Let’s take an example: truck driving. Generally speaking, it’s a lousy job, usually poorly paid.
Now tv news is saying truck driving is an excellent job, well paid, and 20,000 truck drivers are needed.
It is not, so nothing happens.
A month later tv news says women truck drivers are the new rage, making a male-dominated trade more feminine, and earning good money.
Women arent’t crazy either, so nothing happens.
A month later tv news says migrants are needed to fill the need for truck drivers.
The Spanish Prime Minister goes to Morocco, and signs an agreement to allow Moroccan truck drivers to work in Spain.
So you end up with migration, not because of wars, but just to avoid paying decent wages to truck drivers.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 19 2024 22:44 utc | 207

Paul Damascene | Mar 19 2024 18:06 utc | 122
*** Where RF intel / foreign-policy circles *may* have been mistaken was in the willingness of the West to follow through with an actual war on Russia. To be fair, RF intel would have seen little to no evidence of planning, mobilization, industrial build up or mobilization for such a conflict.***
Years of NATO exercises quite obviously aimed towards attacking Russia ought to have given them just the teensy-weensiest hint, surely?
Kim in North Korea did not make the same “mistakes”.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 19 2024 22:50 utc | 208

LightYearsFromHome | Mar 19 2024 22:41 utc | 204–
Thanks for the testimony. Once upon a time, dope meant information, not drugs. In today’s world, it’s now clearly the opposite. So, one could say of your kinsman he’s all dopped up on dope. The fact-based story Hudson relays would have him screaming at the monitor after 10 minutes, maybe even sooner.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 19 2024 22:55 utc | 209

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 19 2024 22:39 utc | 203
The west has completely wrecked the demography in Ukraine. Demographically, the nation will disappear. There is little doubt about that. Of course they will maintain an illusion of Ukraine weekly in the MSM six o’clock news.
In reality, the population (those who survive the west backed dictatorship and mobilization, and other genocidal methods) will either meld to the west, or to the east.
I bet few babies are born in Ukraine for the last 12 months, because the country is so horribly run.
The war is basically running as predicted earlier. Less weapons equals more casualties, and now there are even 15 year olds serving, for obvious reasons per the demographic pyramid.
But it is inevitable the thing will cease to exist. In fact, the entire notion of nationality isn’t really based on anything. In the east are Russians, and in the west are nazis whose only national ideology is based on Bandera and hating Russians. So the country split apart.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 19 2024 22:57 utc | 210

Maybe naboleon doesnt have enough choppers to fit 2000 accidental crashes, and 2000 sudden mountain hike deaths will raise some questions…

Posted by: Gunt | Mar 19 2024 22:58 utc | 211

If I was an American, in the coming election I would have Putin as my ‘write-in’.

Posted by: scepticalSOB | Mar 19 2024 22:59 utc | 212

Paul Damascene | Mar 19 2024 18:06 utc | 122
*** Perhaps, like the rest of us, RF intel failed to grasp just how captured, supine & essentially treasonous EU political elites now are ***
Speak for yourself …. glaringly obvious to anyone semi-sentient for decades what a heap of corrupt, megalomanic, US-bought traitorous lying shits they all were (bad enough to be UK establishment!) … it’s just that now they’ve somehow contrived to be even more psychopathic than before.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 19 2024 23:01 utc | 213

Warmonger Lindsey Graham keeps being re-elected because his state, South Carolina, doesn’t have a Republican primary per se. It has “open” primaries so non-Republicans are welcome. The establishment (endless wars) says it’s “too expensive” to hold a GOP-only primary. Mississippi has a similar system which allows the establishment to keep grass roots candidates out. In the 2014 Mississippi “Republican” primary for US Senate, a runoff had to be held. The GOP Establishment candidate beat the grassroots by paying black democrats to vote for their candidate in the runoff. This was actually published in the NY Times. This fiasco was also a humiliating and well deserved defeat for a wealthy area Tea Party group which sold themselves more than their grassroots candidate. GOP Estab. received millions in donations from people like Bloomberg.

Posted by: Susan Mullen | Mar 19 2024 23:01 utc | 214

unimperator @ 201

France-west is sending troops because the mobilization law isn’t going anywhere in Ukraine and no one wants to fight. Put shortly, the whole thing seems to be collapsing, as far as mobilization goes.

And Macron despises the French just as much Zelensky does Ukrainans, and Nuland and Genocide Joe do Americans. As applies to every leader across the west. The perfect banality of evil crowd for WW3.
For these people horrors are just bureaucratic decisions to be made, in fact, watching some of them, Le Maire at the start of the SMO jumping up and down like a Bichon Frisé at family picnic shouting, “We’re in total war, we’re in total war” something more macabre comes to mind. Blood lust by effeminate, deviated, spiritually hollow elites has a lot to do with it. Self-actualization is were you find it, just as Jeffrey Dahmer.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 19 2024 23:03 utc | 215

@ karlof1 | Mar 19 2024 22:42 utc | 206
Hudson’s interview wasn’t with Dima but with Nima Rostami Alkhorshid (the Iranian behind DialogueWorks).

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 19 2024 23:16 utc | 216

German Green and Christian Democratic politicians dismiss danger of nuclear war
By Johannes Stern
“The competition among media outlets and politicians to determine who is the most aggressive warmonger continues to reach new heights every day. In an angry commentary in the Monday edition of the FAZ, foreign policy experts Anton Hofreiter (Greens) and Norbert Röttgen (Christian Democrats, CDU) called for a massive escalation of the NATO war against Russia in Ukraine.
“Under the headline “The Chancellor’s Catastrophic Defeatism,” the two notorious warmongers attack German Chancellor Olaf Scholz (Social Democrats, SPD) because “he is willing to be put under pressure by Putin.” Coupled “with deliveries of too few weapons too late,” this is “fatal.” Scholz had already hesitated on past weapons deliveries and is now repeating this with the Taurus cruise missiles, they declared. “Ukraine urgently needs long-range missiles to at least compensate for the acute shortage of ammunition at the front and to destroy Russian ammunition depots in the occupied territories,” the commentary declared.
“Not only the thrust—direct attacks on Russia with German missiles—but also the rhetoric is reminiscent of the war madness in the First and Second World Wars. “It’s our Europe. We must defend it and, if the US fails, compensate for its aid if necessary,” they declared. Hofreiter and Röttgen demanded that “not the slightest doubt should arise” about the “unconditional will that we do not give up Ukraine and thus our values and interests.”….”
Continues at https://www.defenddemocracy.press/german-green-and-christian-democratic-politicians-dismiss-danger-of-nuclear-war/
Passerby | Mar 19 2024 22:44 utc | 207
Your scenario certainly has merit: there will always be some population movement in response to labour demands.
But the chronic mass migration is caused not by ‘pull’ but by ‘push’ reasons: people are driven off their land by corporate interests backed by military force. And then there are those, such as the Palestinians, but also including Libyans, Syrians, Iraqis and Afghans (to mention but a few) displaced by military adventures.
Younbg, single peole will often adventure abroad in search of better conditions, but multi generational families rarely leave all that they have behind them unless forced to do so.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 19 2024 23:19 utc | 217

Military expert Alexander Simovsky thinks US will give nuclear weapons to Ukraine. US thinks they can threaten Russia this way.

Do you remember that I said that Ukraine would receive any kind of weapons, including nuclear weapons? Well, military expert Alexander Zimovsky also says this:
In the near future, Ukraine will receive the entire range of Western weapons of the ground forces and aviation, which includes a full set of systems comparable in power to TNW.
In addition, Ukraine already has all the platforms for the use of TNW of Western models. And even suitable for the use of Soviet / Russian TNW samples.
My private opinion is that before the end of this year, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have access to Western TNW systems and the “go ahead” for its use on targets / facilities in Russia. Ukraine’s failure on the Eastern Front is already obvious to everyone.
This is all the more obvious to the professional military in the so-called West.
The alternative to the military collapse of the Nazi Ukrainian non-state can only be the coercion of Russia to peace by the forces of the United States and NATO.
The intention of our opponents in Europe and the United States to force Russia militarily has already been announced.
It remains to take this topic offline.
And we need to understand: where, when and how will it start?
Don’t even doubt what will start. All political decisions have already been made. It’s up to the big battalions.”
The dream of the Ukrainian Nazis is coming true – NATO is going to war with Russia.

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1770152719007068339

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 19 2024 23:23 utc | 218

karlof1 @ 209
I grew up with a partisan mom and uncles who fought in WW2, and of course their squad who stayed life long friends, lots of bold stories and hillbilly wisdom, and a tempered woman’s point of view. I have a pretty good first hand account of war but I never realized how stark black and white life becomes. You gotta live it to know it.
Come war people are forced to choose up sides and the more fearful and confused ones clear out a lifetime of cognitive dissonance to fully embrace what seems most solid, no matter how idiotic.
BTW my cousin is my uncle’s kid, right? Of course Putin is the new Hitler, guess that explains it. Simple and solid to latch on to.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 19 2024 23:27 utc | 219

malenkov | Mar 19 2024 23:16 utc | 216–
Thanks very much. Now fixed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 19 2024 23:28 utc | 220

Military expert Alexander Simovsky thinks US will give nuclear weapons to Ukraine.
LOL!
So many stupid “predictions”… As if people are desperate and cannot wait to see what will happen, for what will happen nobody knows.

Posted by: Naive | Mar 19 2024 23:36 utc | 221

“If the West is serious about a possible great power conflict”
the west should the “fresse halten”! i dont go to war, & if i kill anybody, its the guy that want me to kill somebody…
from .ua i love he mobilization videos where the “to mobilized” trow stones at he heads of the mobilizers, and the like. very inspiring… i hope to be also such a hero, when the time comes!

Posted by: COViDiOT | Mar 19 2024 23:39 utc | 222

Military expert Alexander Simovsky thinks US will give nuclear weapons to Ukraine. US thinks they can threaten Russia this way.
Do you remember that I said that Ukraine would receive any kind of weapons, including nuclear weapons? Well, military expert Alexander Zimovsky also says this:
In the near future, Ukraine will receive the entire range of Western weapons of the ground forces and aviation, which includes a full set of systems comparable in power to TNW.
In addition, Ukraine already has all the platforms for the use of TNW of Western models. And even suitable for the use of Soviet / Russian TNW samples.
My private opinion is that before the end of this year, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have access to Western TNW systems and the “go ahead” for its use on targets / facilities in Russia. Ukraine’s failure on the Eastern Front is already obvious to everyone.
This is all the more obvious to the professional military in the so-called West.
The alternative to the military collapse of the Nazi Ukrainian non-state can only be the coercion of Russia to peace by the forces of the United States and NATO.
The intention of our opponents in Europe and the United States to force Russia militarily has already been announced.
It remains to take this topic offline.
And we need to understand: where, when and how will it start?
Don’t even doubt what will start. All political decisions have already been made. It’s up to the big battalions.”
The dream of the Ukrainian Nazis is coming true – NATO is going to war with Russia.
https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1770152719007068339
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 19 2024 23:23 utc | 218
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No, nah and nope
They had their chance two years ago. They’ve done sweet f**k all, in terms of actually mobilizing real troops.
Operation Piss-in-the-Wind is too little too late, even if Macron backs up his big boy talk.
Ukraine is inevitably screwed & all efforts at regime change in Moscow failed utterly That’s the reason for all these EUtrash histrionics.
Needless to say the Ukies aren’t getting nukes either.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 19 2024 23:41 utc | 223

“Military expert Alexander Simovsky”… did anyone ask Andrei Martyanov about Alexander Simovsky already?

Posted by: COViDiOT | Mar 19 2024 23:42 utc | 224

Jake Blanchard | Mar 19 2024 21:52 utc | 185
*** Will Zelensky run away to Venezuela and cry into his pillow?***
Argentina, surely?

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 19 2024 23:45 utc | 225

Let the Ukies get the nukes. Do you think they will have enough before the Russians wipe them out completely in retaliation?

Posted by: JamesBond | Mar 19 2024 23:46 utc | 226

no not to Venezuela. remember “Juan Guaidó” is in the US. thats because Venezuela is out of the control of the imperium of lies…

Posted by: COViDiOT | Mar 19 2024 23:49 utc | 227

vargas | Mar 19 2024 21:37 utc | 181
*** The French would happily die in Ukraine and nobody will notice. After that Germans, Poles, Romanians, Danes… who knows.***
After being TOSsed, would they Yanks call them “freedom fries”, or “French fries”?

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 19 2024 23:50 utc | 228

@JamesBond the fUK will love to see nuclear devastation in .ua, and mostly direct at the .ua .ru border…

Posted by: COViDiOT | Mar 19 2024 23:51 utc | 229

I agree the Ukies ain’t ever getting nukes, shit the USA just had France hand over their nukes! USA controls the nukes, period.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 19 2024 23:52 utc | 230

@Cynic the yanks will only call for more meat… young ukis, frogs, what ever…

Posted by: COViDiOT | Mar 19 2024 23:54 utc | 231

@229,
At that point, I don’t think the border stuff will matter too much anyway.

Posted by: JamesBond | Mar 19 2024 23:55 utc | 232

@LightYearsFromHome its only about “plausible deniability”… nukes are ok, also all the other possibilities…

Posted by: COViDiOT | Mar 19 2024 23:56 utc | 233

COViDiOT @ 233
I guess Nazis stooges with a nuke is the ultimate test of Russia’s red lines.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 20 2024 0:02 utc | 234

LightYearsFromHome | Mar 19 2024 23:27 utc | 219–
Thanks for your reply. Today’s sophisticated crapaganda is like a poison, and without an antidote one succumbs to it. There are many millions of poisoned people, some in very high, responsible government positions. All too many have eaten the Blue Pill, while many stay mesmerized watching the images inside the cave never learning the reality of Reality. How to keep from being sucked into the chaotic vortex caused by the collapse of the Outlaw US Empire is a question few at the moment are contemplating; it sure makes it hard to plan for a future living in North America. I hope I live long enough to tell my newborn grandson about some of the things that matter, like how to recognize truth from fiction, that your behavior showcases your genuine values. In nine days, I’ll be visiting several different nations–Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee–and in the process celebrate the ancient festival of the first full moon after the Spring Equinox, which is today.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 20 2024 0:06 utc | 235

So you end up with migration, not because of wars, but just to avoid paying decent wages to truck drivers.
Posted by: Passerby | Mar 19 2024 22:44 utc | 207
That’s a faulty conclusion, IMO. You can easily find relatively accurate numbers of displaced persons from NATO (and other) wars in the ME and Africa. It’s a real thing. They have to go somewhere. You can also easily find the number of people patriated (allowed to migrate to) any EU country, at least to a reasonable degree of accuracy. The people who need to hire truck drivers aren’t the ones executing the wars.
Having said that, of course the capitalist class benefits if they can introduce a competing labor force that demands much lower compensation than the citizens of a given country. And by no means am I arguing that in the past here in the USA (even now when you look at “factory” farmers and meat packing plants) that industrialists and large scale agri-business hasn’t come out in favor of mass immigration; they have.
Regardless, you’re taking the effect of warfare, regime change and economic sanctions and claiming it’s because of a few business ‘cartels’ (for lack of a better word) in industries that have zero input as to US foreign or geoeconomic policy. How have trucking companies in Spain influenced the decisions to attack Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc.?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 20 2024 0:08 utc | 236

Posted by: bevin | Mar 19 2024 17:14 utc | 103
You had me for a second there. As I read along I thought I was reading karlof1 for sure. On this one you guys think alike and talk alike.
Nice surprise.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 20 2024 0:12 utc | 237

Meanwhile Micron is demanding war. France has 56 nuclear power plants. Ticking Fukushimas or Chernobyls. Way too many for a small country. Chernobyl times 56 may not spare most of his voters.
Posted by: Jason | Mar 19 2024 22:11 utc | 195
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Jason, you should read up on Chernobyl, including reactor design and what specifically went wrong. A test of shutting down a pump was delayed and deferred to the night shift, which was free of clue. There is a short HBO series (starring Brits, of course and the obligatory smart woman) which in part follows a book by a Russian author. The book makes a great read.
When is the last time a tsunami flooded France?

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 20 2024 0:19 utc | 239

The draft riots happened in New York City because the Irish living there resented the conscription system (only recently adopted), which they felt discriminated against the poor. Rich people could escape the draft by paying a substitute to serve in their place. Also, they resented having to fight in a war that they thought, after the Emancipation Proclamation, was being fought for blacks, when blacks, in New York, were competing with them for jobs. Unfortunately, the rioters killed several blacks in NYC before the Union Army put the riots down.
Interestingly, perhaps ironically, the riots in a way succeeded. Rich New Yorkers took advantage of the substitute provision to hire enough substitute soldiers so that virtually no NY Irish had to serve in the war involuntarily.
Of course, as viewers of Western movies will be aware, nevertheless many Irish immigrants to the US served in the US Army, as it was one of the best opportunities they had.

Posted by: Lysias | Mar 20 2024 0:40 utc | 240

I wonder if Obama’s visit to Downing Street had to do with a Democratic plan to dump Biden and Harris…
Ukraine (and Russia) always had a fairly significant excess of women. High rates of male mortality for all ages. I don’t believe any recent demographic assessment or population numbers. The subject became very political. Supposedly thousands are still leaving the country every week. Dima had some numbers on deserters – 20k since last fall. This whole subject of demography and numbers at the front and in reserve is a black hole of mis/dis/absence of any reliable information. Casualty rates from Rus MoD are very high and would seem completely unsustainable at this point in the conflict. In a couple months perhaps it will be clearer what the actual situation is as, with the election over, I expect the Russians to press their advantage pretty hard. If the situation is dire for the UAF we will see the evidence.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 20 2024 0:45 utc | 241

Susan Mullen @ 214
In the past I thought the USA had honest elections with outliers here and there, Chicago, New Orleans, local bosses, not good but not systemic, not too troubling, not because I thought we had such a strong democracy but with so little difference between the parties why bother stealing elections, and it would damage the kayfabe. Then there’s all the legal and quasi legal means to steal elections, gerrymandering and what you mention. But, now that I’ve stumbled out of the matrix I’m pretty convinced we’ve moved beyond quaint election tricks to systemic vote counting fraud. It’s pretty simple, once you have a uni-party state fully in control, legislative, executive, judicial who’s going to call you on it?
Lee Camp just did a good few minutes on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4I8lbPMlYA

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 20 2024 0:50 utc | 242

I think Russia will win, but.
The common count is the AFU has fifty brigades, possibly only rump brigades but still fifty, south of Belgorod. They seem to be pushing this attack because as they’re sitting there watching the border being hit by artillery they may as sap troops away from their western front. That’s a lot of manpower on a formerly quiet front.
The AFU is fighting dogged, slow retreats towards a third line as the second was breached yesterday. Like the RF they are trying to conserve troops. There are strong signs that since Adviivka they have been conserving heavy weapons ammunition apart from FPV drones. This is probably because they’re not sure whether they’ll get resupply from the west but also possibly for future offensive operations.
The RF has to juggle a western propaganda hysteria of a fast about a fast breakthrough and subsequent pushing through or a NATO or Eu response with the USA playing the part of the unwilling ally of those reckless Euros against the need to encircle and pound enemy strongpoints. The fighting has taken a nasty turn with both sides hitting casevac operations with the aim to destroy the valuable vehicles involved.
The RF is playing against Ukraine’s PR weakness. As Ukraine needs to show itself as not a lost cause they are still fighting over Robotyne, a useless moonscape they could have tactically retreated from to better positions some time ago but which is also the only real AFU gain from the Summer Counteroffensive.
The AFU seems to fight smarter now Zalushny’s gone but there’s decent evidence that his former Praetorian Guard right sector units no longer have an appetite for the fight as units like the 3rd Assault Brigade (Azov Division) seem to find every excuse not to be in the front line even though that’s where they are now. Tellingly after Zalushny was sacked and they were taken from Kieb where they were beating up civilians and sent to Adviivka they refused to go into the line and this brought about the late stage rout. Now they are trying to wangle going back to Kiev to ‘help in the mobilisation’ (beat up civilians again).
This ugly fratricidal war still has a lot of legs, it has at least two years in it if NATO keeps hovering around the border stopping the RF bringing it to a swift conclusion. While the AFU shows very real signs of cracking there is a confirmation bias in focusing on the troops that do surrender when nothing is obviously heard about those who don’t. The AFU is still undertaking spirited counterattacks against very strong assaults to the result of nasty casualty levels on both sides. It’s almost like Kiev doesn’t care how wounded they are are as long as they harm Russia . . .

Posted by: Jim | Mar 20 2024 0:50 utc | 243

Karl, congratulations on the birth of your grandson.

Posted by: Lysias | Mar 20 2024 0:52 utc | 244

The ‘documentary’ “20 days in Mariupol” plagerized some footage from other film makers including some shot in the Donbass in 2014 about the terrorizing of children by UAF shelling. I already mentioned the bit where they are interviewing civilians sheltering in a basement and one person says “the fucking Ukrainians are shelling us!” and the film crew insists that it’s Russian bombing. Scum of the earth.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 20 2024 1:00 utc | 245

Ukraine is the “The Truman Show 2.0” …on steroids, in real time, with global audience glued to hi definition broadcasting all on personal devices, controlled by super computers. Is the guy gonna run ?

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 20 2024 1:10 utc | 246

The news are slowly getting frightning. When Europe is discoussing to officially sending troups to Ukraine which endangers Europe falling over the cliff of WW3, after watching the latest Weeb-Union video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBmDFO1tZUI&t=455s
Let’s hope that people will take a stand for peace at this year’s traditional Easter marches.
https://www.friedenskooperative.de/ostermarsch-2024

Posted by: Johnny | Mar 20 2024 1:12 utc | 247

Military expert Alexander Simovsky thinks US will give nuclear weapons to Ukraine. US thinks they can threaten Russia this way.
Do you remember that I said that Ukraine would receive any kind of weapons, including nuclear weapons?
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 19 2024 23:23 utc | 218
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The US scatters those around the globe as if they were party favors. Aegis Ashore is just a bigger gift or bribe.
The reality is that only the US controls their use. The finger on the trigger remains in Washington.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 20 2024 1:23 utc | 248

@Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 19 2024 22:39 utc | 203
The Ukrainian birth rate crashed from 1990 onward, i.e. with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the economic shock therapy and corruption that has never ended in Ukraine. Fertility rate in 2001 was 1.1, versus the 2.1 needed for population maintenance.
– Live births in 1990 were 647,000 – these people are now 34 years old;
– In 2000 385,000 these people are now 24;
– In 2010 497,000 (a bit of a recovery), these people are now 14;
– In 2020 293,000 these children are now 4;
– In 2023 187,000 these children will become 18 in 2042.
Then add the mass migration of the young due to economic hardships, even before the war incomes in Ukraine were less than half those in Russia. It would be interesting to know what the birth rates are for the millions of Ukrainians who fled to Russia.

Posted by: Roger | Mar 20 2024 1:27 utc | 249

“We need more people in line”
Yes, in the line of death, amputation, mental illness of various kinds.
Shameless.
Brazen.
The peak of American immorality.
America.
The bravest world warriors, provided it is with someone else’s blood.

Posted by: augusto | Mar 20 2024 1:34 utc | 250

Lysias | Mar 20 2024 0:52 utc | 243–
Thanks. He’s almost 5 months now, daughter’s 40 years. Interesting that Wikipedia has nothing under Tammany Hall or Boss Tweed related to the anti-draft riot. None of the accounts I checked named an organizer despite the fact that they clearly were organized. Clearly class consciousness compounded by racism were the causes of the many anti-draft riots that happened in the North, not just NYC.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 20 2024 1:36 utc | 251

Polish General Rajmund Andrzejczak, former Head of the Polish General Staff, talking about how Ukrainian losses should be counted in the “millions not hundreds of thousands” and stating that Ukraine has no one extra left to fight without deeply disrupting the economy and society. Doesn’t see Polish troops (official ones anyway) in Ukraine and is very dismissive of Macron.
He is also very realistic about the European munitions production capabilities and is all for Polish nuclear proliferation!
https://twitter.com/simpatico771/status/1770259750220874050

Posted by: Roger | Mar 20 2024 1:55 utc | 252

Paul Damascene | Mar 19 2024 18:06 utc | 122
good comment, well argued with relevant details. You may be right. who knows? hard to tell who was planning what and who did what and why. where do they go from here is the thing that matters now. cheers

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 20 2024 1:57 utc | 253

He’s strikingly worried the nukes will fly, utterly convinced Putin is the mad dog lunatic the media makes him out be. I just nodded in agreement, I instantly understood it’s the most hopeless lost cause imaginable.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 19 2024 22:41 utc | 204
I am sure you have your reasons for not engaging your cousin on this topic. But when I encounter the brainwashed in our midst, regardless of how much I like them personally, or how hopeless the mission to rescue their brains seems, I gently challenge at every opportunity, pointing out the logical flaws in their thinking. I have not lost a friend or relative yet pointing out that the Russians see Western influence in the Ukraine as akin to an aggressive foreign power sitting on the border of Texas or (insert United States borderland here).In the end, people in North America aren’t willing to die on the hill of the Ukraine…even many ex-pat Ukrainians who place flags on their cars.
…now, the Vax was another story…and another thread…lost some friends there. Interestingly, a humble few have come back and said I was right…but not all.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Mar 20 2024 2:00 utc | 254

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@TG 16
The real issue now may not be the war per se, but how Russia translates military ‘victory’ into something that is not just a deeper quagmire. Putin may have figured it out, he’s not infallible but he is smart, we will see.”
Russia is Expert in turning almost won wars into quagmire.
BUT Russia is Expert in turning almost won war into a quagmire as in Syria in 2016, Donbass in 2015, Ukraine in 2022.
Russia seems so desperate to have good relationship with her perennial enemy Anglo-Saxon race headed by evil england. That explains her inferiority complex and all reaction to western provocation. Always ready to negotiate rather than finish the job at hand. RUSSIA’SURVIVAL DEPENDS ON KILLING ENGLAND AS A NATION STATE OF PARASITES.

Posted by: Sam | Mar 20 2024 2:25 utc | 255

And Macron despises the French just as much Zelensky does Ukrainans, and Nuland and Genocide Joe do Americans. As applies to every leader across the west. The perfect banality of evil crowd for WW3.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 19 2024 23:03 utc | 215
Absolutely correct! And the cool thing is that you don’t even have to know any of these leaders personally and intimately to know this is true. By their fruits ye shall know them…somebody wise once said.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Mar 20 2024 2:27 utc | 256

Activist Potato @ 253
I evangelize multipolarity, anti neoliberal economics, UKR war, Gaza with working class friends all the time they are open minded, I don’t bother with PMC friends or kin, they look at Macron, Stoltenberg, von der Leyen, Sunak, Blinken, even Kamala Harris, etc and see themselves, a meritocracy like them and their clients, working class friends see lizard people space aliens. They may not know the story but they know they are surrounded by bullshit.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 20 2024 3:09 utc | 257

Can one explain to me how it is possible to have a male surplus in the ages of 18-25 ???
I thought that male are drafted first for military service and female only second and not in large quantities.
Thus it should be the other way around, no?
I’m no expert in statistics and after learning that a median can be calculated in 4 ore more ways, I’ve gave up…
Posted by: Tommy | Mar 19 2024 11:14 utc | 15
More males are born than female so there is a male surplus in young people. Men tend to die younger, so eventually you get a female surplus in older ages.
Also, I doubt that demographic graph is updated for all the casualties of war.

Posted by: NorthernHarrier | Mar 20 2024 3:11 utc | 258

While the AFU shows very real signs of cracking there is a confirmation bias in focusing on the troops that do surrender when nothing is obviously heard about those who don’t.

You dont hear about those who do not surrender, because they’re dead. Emphasis mine.
Belgorad is a fools gambit by children who played too much Operational Art of War and read too few books. These geniuses continue to squander what pitiful means remain to the Ukronazis in the vain hope of ..what exactly? Cowing Russia? You’ve united the nation like never before in living memory, great job. Hurting the Russian economy? Its going from strength to strength while the West stagnates in a pool of toxic debt. Isolating Russia diplomatically? I wont bother here other than to mention brav-fucking-O on pushing Russia into de facto alliance with China. Inflicting a ‘strategic defeat’? Get the fuck outta here, the only strategic defeat is of the West…alongside the utter exposure of the hypocrisy of our so called ‘values’.
These fail upwards assclowns of the West will either learn humility or we all will die. The end. Given the level of imbecility so far the odds aren’t good. I see no master plan, I see retards all the way down.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 20 2024 3:30 utc | 259

Notice the western leaders only talk about themselves/NATO and winning. They are not thinking about diplomacy, negotiating, humanity or peace, they can’t stand the fact that they could be on the back foot and that they must win no matter what.

Posted by: freeworld | Mar 20 2024 3:59 utc | 260

The french are probably thinking they can get their immigrant problems to go fight Russia in exchange for citizenship. The odds being they never return from the meatgrinder. This strategy may become popular throught the collective waste.

Posted by: Windship | Mar 20 2024 4:13 utc | 261

Honestly, B, people, or er, uh…psychopaths like Lindsay Graham make me nauseous
The better question is why do Americans tolerate these utter Zionist warmongers?
“Drafting the few men of age 18 to 25 will not help to win the war but will, over time, further depopulate Ukraine.”
I think you’re onto something there, B. Getting a little hard to avoid that depopulation is a goal of the Zio elite..
I recently watched an interview that Patrick Lancaster did with 4 men who had surrendered to the Russian military. Those guys could not have been happier..
The stories we are likely to hear about the current day Nazi regime in Kiev, as well as Jewlensky’s mistreatment of his people will be most interesting
GO RUSSIA!

Posted by: Kay | Mar 20 2024 4:24 utc | 262

🇫🇷🇺🇦 French TV broadcasts fantasize about where French troops could be stationed in Ukraine if they were sent there – details
– The map shows 2 delusional hypothetical scenarios – military deployment along the Dnieper River and along the border with Belarus.
– Apparently the scenarios are from Col. Vincent Arbaretier, who was invited to the studio as an expert.
– He argues that the deployment of troops along the Dnieper River would show Russia a “red line” that it is not allowed to enter the territory of right-bank Ukraine. And deployment along the border with Belarus would make Kiev safe.Arbaretier also allows for a mixed option with deployment in both of these locations.
– He says “France has envisioned in this scenario” 20,000 soldiers assembled in mobile brigades.
– “It’s not about putting up a continuous line of people, it’s about putting up units that can react very quickly. Close combat units, combat units and support units to be able to hold off the Russians,” Arbaretier said.

https://t.me/sitreports/24770

Posted by: Down South | Mar 20 2024 4:26 utc | 263

@Chicago Bob,
Very interesting post. Wish you had elaborated a bit more on your travels there.
At Any rate, are you aware of whom Patrick Lancaster is? He has a popular YOUTUBE channel, and I think you may be interested in that if you are not already aware.
He recently interviewed former Ukie conscripts who surrendered to Russia. I think you might find that interesting..
Thanks for sharing your post.

Posted by: Kay | Mar 20 2024 4:36 utc | 264

It’s odd. I just met for a drink with a former co-worker from Bulgaria. He is out here in LA. We worked on a few documentaries about 404. I am probably 20 years older than him.
We discussed the situation in Ukraine and Russia and that neighborhood.
He told me that were I from Eastern Europe, I would feel differently about VV Putin. I did my best to explain how VVP is so hated by the collective waste because VVP is trying to protect Russia and prevent the neo-con neo-libs from carving it up for the likes of Cargill/Blackrock. My talking points which I have sharpened from much time reading the comments and posts here on MoA didn’t shift our conversation this evening, but I would like to think that I planted a mustard seed.
Thanks to everyone who have helped me formulate my arguement.
It is sad that so many of the young are blinded by the seductive arguments of the West.

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 20 2024 4:36 utc | 265

lex talionis | Mar 20 2024 4:36 utc | 264
They will all go the way of the ukroids before this is over. I have found I have no empathy for those that still believe the American, British and European elite. They will have to go through the absolute destruction of war. The only ones I have empathy for are those we are taking war to.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 4:43 utc | 266

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 4:43 utc | 265
It’s sad. I haven’t really broached the subject with my daughter. She is cool and a good person, but I know that the disconnect is so strong. I just watched the interview with Jeffrey Sachs and Piers Morgan about the situation. The youth don’t understand that it could all blow up.
Yesterday I took my dogs to the beach by where I live at sunset. There was a huge weird cloud in the sky from a launch of a Space X satellite thing in the air. We usually only have chem-trails. It made me sad.
It is going to go nuclear.
And the kids just don’t get it. One would think that the youth would understand.

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 20 2024 4:56 utc | 267

📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Report for the Morning of 20 March 2024; pub. 06:59📍
🗓 Over the past day, the enemy has not stopped trying to break into the border settlement of #Kozinka in Grayvoron urban district. They used armored vehicles to deliver troops to the border and fire support. The advancing enemy forces have been destroyed or dispersed. The Nazis are hitting the civilian population of the region, a teenager in the #Belgorod region had his hand torn off. The decision of the authorities to evacuate 9 thousand children from the region was announced.
💥The Russian Ministry of Defence reports that the enemy uses the RM-70 “Vampire” MLRS and the Tochka-U tactical missile system for strikes. A new element was the destruction of an American Patriot missile in the sky over the region announced by the ministry.
💥In the #Kursk section of the state border under fire the settlement of #Tyotkino. In the evening, they reported the destruction of a S-200 anti-aircraft missile converted for hitting ground targets over the region.
🔹In the #Kherson direction, the AFU boats on the #Dnieper were destroyed. Attempts to rotate enemy manpower in #Krynki were unsuccessful. The enemy also maintains a presence in the area of the “dachas” near the #Antonovsky Bridge. They are preparing a line of defence on their shore.
🔹On the #Zaporozhye front in #Rabotino, the enemy is counterattacking.. Ours are meeting him with artillery fire. Heavy fighting is taking place in the settlement.
🔹North of #Maryinka, in #Krasnogorovka, the enemy conducted counterattacks, greatly reducing our presence there. Heavy fighting is going on.
🔹West of #Avdeyevka, Russian units have gained a foothold in #Orlovka. There are battles in #Tonenkoye, #Pervomayskoye and #Berdychi.
🔹In the #ChasovYar direction, there are battles in #Ivanovskoye (#Krasnoye) and #Bogdanovka.
💥In the #DPR, 6 civilians were injured as a result of Nazi strikes.
🎬#Grayvoron Direction, #Belgorod border section – “our tank is direct fire…”. Footage from the people’s drone. #Kozinka settlement, the enemy infantry ran into the outskirts of the village close to the border, having already earned one wounded during the rush to the house. To eliminate the Nazis, our tank crew came to direct fire range almost close to the enemy. The AFU hit our vehicle, at 00:53 one of the explosions of enemy shells in front of our tank is visible. But ours managed it, the fascists’ shelter was destroyed along with its personnel. The crew of the tank are guys of steel with nerves of steel. The battle continues.👇

https://t.me/two_majors/20837

Posted by: Down South | Mar 20 2024 5:02 utc | 268

How the capture of Orlovka (DPR) will affect the further offensive of the Russian Armed Forces: analysis of the “Military Chronicle”
▫️ Why is important taking Orlovka?
Firstly, the most combat-ready units of the AFU in this area retreated from Orlovka with heavy losses: the 3rd Separate Assault Brigade (formerly “Azov”, a terrorist organization), the 110th Mechanized Infantry Brigade, as well as parts of the 109th Territorial Defence Brigade, with the help of which the Armed Forces carried out “meat counterattacks”, trying to recapture the village and regardless of losses. Secondly, the capture of Orlovka pushed part of the artillery units of the AFU west towards Uman, in particular the self-propelled artillery division of the 53rd Mechanized Infantry Brigade.
▫️How will events develop further?
After the loss of the village, we can almost certainly expect attempts at a counterattack. The Ukrainian army undertook them even with smaller territorial losses in Orlovka, even if it was a matter of withdrawing from two or three strongholds. After the further advance of the RF Armed Forces from Orlovka, the plan of the operation will be clear: there is no information yet whether the attack will be carried out on Umanskoye or near Semyonovka north of Orlovka.
In fact, on the combat line in this area there are only two outposts of the AFU left: Semyonovka, which is defended by the 25th Separate Airborne Brigade and the withdrawn units of the 3rd Separate Assault Brigade with the support of the 63rd OSB, and Berdychi, for which there is a battle with the 47th Mechanized Brigade and the 116th Territorial Defence Brigade.
Presumably, both directions will be strengthened after the loss of Orlovka, since the loss of Semyonovka or Berdychi (regardless of the order) actually makes the defense of neighboring sectors of the front meaningless, including the area around Tonenkoye.
▫️ Where is this heading?
Taking into account the fact that Orlovka, Semyonovka, Berdychi and Tonenkoye are located in the lowlands, the most probable withdrawal of the AFU to lines 2 km to the west seems likely. However, there are no large concrete fortifications there: the area west of Orlovka is continuous fields. Therefore, from these positions, in the event of the worst-case scenario, part of the units of the Ukrainian army will have to retreat to Novoselovka Pervaya and Novopokrovskoye. The other part will be forced to roll back to Umanskoye and hold the defense along the route.
However, the turn will reach these fortified areas relatively quickly, since the offensive of the Russian Armed Forces in Tonenkoye is at the final stage.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/91926

Posted by: Down South | Mar 20 2024 5:04 utc | 269

Posted by: Johnny | Mar 20 2024 1:12 utc | 246
“Let’s hope that people will take a stand for peace at this year’s traditional Easter marches.”
I do hope that Putin & Medvedev are sober enough to hear those calls for peace and letting the troops come back to home land. Heartily recommended for all sides. Ukrainian troops of course already are.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Mar 20 2024 5:13 utc | 270

In the Night 2000 french soldiers left the city of Presov in direction of slovak Ukraine border. A column of 100 french soldiers crossed the border at 4 am
It’s starting!

Posted by: SlowSoft | Mar 20 2024 5:36 utc | 271

In response to

In the Night 2000 french soldiers left the city of Presov in direction of slovak Ukraine border. A column of 100 french soldiers crossed the border at 4 am
It’s starting!
Posted by: SlowSoft | Mar 20 2024 5:36 utc | 270

I am wondering if the genocide in Gaza is cover for NATO/Ukraine escalation steps…..NATO keeps asking for shock/awe from Russia as do others here and you may get your wish soon, IMO
Given that the French troops will want to stick together, they will stick out like sore thumbs for easy targeting.
I have written here before that I see humanity close to the climax of this civilization conflict and personally welcome the potential resolution of centuries of societal barbarism by the more equal than other pigs in our trough.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 20 2024 5:50 utc | 272

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 20 2024 5:50 utc | 271
Fun Boy Three – The Lunatics Have Taken Over the Asylum

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 20 2024 5:58 utc | 273

In a few comments recently I wrote that something was cooking in Europe.
Some recipes for what soon now will now be cooked by Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xChZ1VFLoI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Uf7F1Dssc

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 6:11 utc | 274

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 6:11 utc | 273
Fun Buy Three – Faith, Hope and Charitys
Fun Boy Three help me make it through the day
RIP Terry Hall

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 20 2024 6:16 utc | 275

RE
In the Night 2000 french soldiers left the city of Presov in direction of slovak Ukraine border. A column of 100 french soldiers crossed the border at 4 am
Posted by: SlowSoft | Mar 20 2024 5:36 utc | 270
I have said as much before, but for the record now, I predict that Putin/Russia will do nothing and will avoid striking / attacking / killing any Nato/French deployment of Troops in Ukraine.
Putin is too timid, too weak, too scared to respond strongly or directly against Nato forces anywhere.
But we might now find out for sure, sooner than later.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 20 2024 6:26 utc | 276

“Mercenaries from the Romanian Battlegroup “Getica” claim they participated in the recent spate of attacks on Russian border regions (…) published videos of the brazen attacks and shelling of Russian border regions on social media networks” ( sputnikglobe.com/20240320/romanian-mercs-claim-involvement-in-ukrainian-attempts-to-infiltrate-russias-border-1117440685.html )
– He says “France has envisioned in this scenario” 20,000 soldiers assembled in mobile brigades.
Posted by: Down South | Mar 20 2024 4:26 utc | 262
“Attrition” by Gersimov, “How to get bombed in three easy steps – NYT best seller.”

Posted by: rk | Mar 20 2024 6:33 utc | 277

270
Slovak TG channels reporting about it
Many videos re available
Especially from the border town of Mihalovce

Posted by: tesla | Mar 20 2024 6:35 utc | 278

My recent comments

And that is exactly why Russia should go very very very hard and using conventional weapons and relentlessly bomb the shit out of NATO bases (and other military command, ammunition, intel, manufacturing transport assets) all over eastern Europe and inside Germany Poland and Romania especially and naval and EW drone assets …. because there is NOTHING the US or NATO can do about it, more than they are doing now, where the situation Russia faces will be no worse than it is now.
[…] That’s why Russia needs to strike now especially with their hyper-sonic missiles. Maybe they are waiting until they have a larger stock pile? Who knows. But if Russia does not strike the US and NATO this summer, and then collapse the Ukraine Military at the same time, then they may as well given back Crimea and the other Oblasts to Ukraine and walk away.
[…] Russia is playing with fire. The Americans don’t give a shit about anyone. They will happily drag Russia to hell if there is no other option … and right now it’s like shooting fish in a barrel for the Americans.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 19 2024 8:51 utc | 316
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/03/ukraine-open-thread-2024-081/comments/page/4/#comments

Putin has been speaking tough about any Nato EU troops sent to UKR would be attacked by Russia s invaders.
Let’s see now which way they go now. Putin will fold, he will not go All In.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 20 2024 6:43 utc | 279

lex talionis | Mar 20 2024 6:16 utc | 274
Not quite my thing.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 6:57 utc | 280

Luttwak’s always been a right-winger, but when he was establishing his reputation in the 1960s with articles on neo-fascism and the conduct of military coups he was at least rational. It seems in his senility he has fallen off his log even before falling off his twig.
As soon-to-be-President Trump would X, “SAD!”

Posted by: MFB | Mar 20 2024 7:08 utc | 281

12 hours ago
Russia warns France will become ‘priority target for attacks’ if country sends troops to Ukraine
Russia has warned that any French troops sent to Ukraine will become ‘priority’ targets as French president Macron refuses to rule out deploying forces to the… ?
RT Buffer zones in UKR? No Buffer zones inside RUSSIA now.

Russia to evacuate 9,000 children from border region after Ukrainian strikes
President Putin has said a buffer zone will be created to protect civilians from long-range attacks
Around 9,000 children will be evacuated from Russia’s Belgorod Region on the border with Ukraine, following increased attempts by Kiev’s forces to strike targets behind the front line, local Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov announced on Tuesday.
The first group of 1,200 children will be transported from unsafe areas on March 22 and will be relocated deeper inside Russia to Penza, Tambov, and Kaluga, Gladkov said.
“We are already relocating [people from] a large number of villages. Now we are planning to evacuate about 9,000 children from Belgorod and the surrounding regions, Shebekinsky and Grayvoronsky districts,” he added.
The announcement came a day after President Vladimir Putin said Russia wants to create a buffer zone to protect border regions and civilians from long-range Ukrainian strikes and cross-border raids, which have intensified in recent months.

France is ready to face whatever developments unfold internationally and is prepared for the “toughest engagements” to protect itself, the chief of staff of the French Army, Gen. Pierre Schill, said in an interview published on Tuesday.
MSN 7 am
Russia has threatened to attack French troops as a “priority” if they are deployed on the ground in Ukraine, calling them “legitimate targets”.
Vladimir Putin’s spy chief Sergei Naryshkin issued the threat to “all Frenchmen who come to the territory of the Russian world”, presumed to be a reference to Ukraine.
WE’LL SEE ……….

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 20 2024 7:23 utc | 282

For whatever reason I cannot comment at substack which is where most of b’s patrons have gone since his bar has been invaded by gutter shit. Only a few left here now but masses of dog shit and other garbage to wade through to find them.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 7:23 utc | 283

@Acco Hengst | Mar 20 2024 0:19 utc | 238

Meanwhile Micron is demanding war. France has 56 nuclear power plants.

Is this the answer to “why now?”. France lost access to nuclear fuel in Africa? Kind of parallel to Germany losing access to NS2 natural gas.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 20 2024 7:30 utc | 284

Putin has been speaking tough about any Nato EU troops sent to UKR would be attacked by Russia s invaders.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 20 2024 6:43 utc | 278
He never used the word “Attack” ( sputnikglobe.com/20240313/vladimir-putin-holds-interview-with-rossiya-segodnya-chief-kiselev-1117297434.html )
“We know what American troops in the Russian territory are. These are invaders. That is how we will treat them”
Invaders were there since before 2014 and there was no attack. so it remains to be seen.
I cannot comment at substack which is where most of b’s patrons have gone since his bar has been invaded by gutter shit.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 7:23 utc | 282
Yet, here you are. The echo chamber and the Church of Marty “I-write-books-on-how-to-kill-Russians-please-CIA-hire-me” doesn’t satisfy you anymore?

Posted by: rk | Mar 20 2024 7:36 utc | 285

Right, so in Putin’s and Peter the Angry Asshole’s World when foreign troops invade you do not “attack” them …… what’s this insanity about now. Is everyone gone mad on this forum like Peter has or is just him and a few? Like delusional where words don’t mean what they mean anymore….. Putin’s English dyslexic translations can mean anything anyone wants them to now? Nuts. And dumb and stupid.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 20 2024 7:43 utc | 286

I want to draw attention to b’s earlier post where he explained in detail about the ranks of soldiers in command of NATO proxy units.
Add in Down South and Roger’s post about a Polish General’s musing about possibly casualties numbering in million or more and you can see the reasons for the insane calls for mobilization.
There are confirmed reports of entire units surrendering that are a third in size than normal.
As for the French, apart from the usual concern trolls, who gives a fuck?
French have a peculiar rule where the F Legion can be deployed to whatever undeclared conflict without repercussions.
But when regular mainland forces start dying and being disabled in unsanctioned conflicts, lawsuits by families can quickly explode into uncontrollable situations.
So, grab your favorite beverage and snacks and sit back.

Posted by: Suresh | Mar 20 2024 7:46 utc | 287

Simplicius posted this link in the comment thread under his latest article, without additional commentary.
https://imgur.com/l4Pl0wd
I am guessing there is a story here about how the western ‘leaders’ are being persuaded.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 20 2024 7:50 utc | 288

This-
The French soldiers would indeed become “a legitimate priority target for attacks by the Russian Armed Forces,” Naryshkin said.
https://www.rt.com/news/594517-france-prepare-deploy-troops-ukraine/
To some this, some how, does NOT mean Russia will “attack” French Troops …. in which galaxy far far away is that true oh foul mouthed angry little Peter?

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 20 2024 7:51 utc | 289

re: (lack of) US/Western industrial-base with which to counter a war of attrition:
What we were told:
“Russia is a gas-station masquerading as a nation.”
Reality:
“USA is a dot-com startup masquerading as a world-power.”

Posted by: retroflecks | Mar 20 2024 7:53 utc | 290

rk | Mar 20 2024 7:36 utc | 284
You’ve been around for awhile. The court jester. More to the point long term resident troll. You have plenty of company now.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 7:59 utc | 291

Posted by: Suresh | Mar 20 2024 7:46 utc | 286
It’s pretty obvious Ukraine isn’t getting 500k people mobilized since they have to beat up, grab and hood up most of them. How they send them to the front is akin to the extermination concentration camps of nazis.
So yes the west is scared people run out.
But what can France offer? Their Ceasar guns and AMC-10 tanks are (were) already there, France is just adding bodies. FAB or shells or TOS don’t differentiate between Nato super dooper special forces or AFU conscript.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 20 2024 8:00 utc | 292

❗️Dmitry Medvedev approves of France sending troops to Ukraine:
“It would be nice if the restless French sent a couple of regiments to Banderaland. It is very problematic to hide such a number of military personnel, and, therefore, the issue of their systematic destruction will not be the most difficult but an extremely important task.
⚡But how beneficial it would be!
With so many coffins that will be delivered to France from a foreign, distant country, it will be impossible to hide the mass death of professional military personnel. Moreover, you can no lie and say that, supposedly, mercenaries themselves choose their fate and dispose of their right to life. These unfortunates will become full-fledged combatants as part of the intervention contingent. Their destruction will be the priority and glorious task for our Armed Forces.
🇫🇷But for the roosters from the French leadership, this will be like the guillotine. They will be cut into pieces by angry relatives and evil representatives of the opposition, who were told that France is not at war with Russia. And it will be a good lesson for other restless idiots in Europe”

https://t.me/geromanat/23003

🇺🇦🇫🇷 Macron spoke about sending not combat units, but instructors to Ukraine, Kuleba said in an interview with the Italian La Stampa.
He noted that Ukraine never asked to send Western troops, but only needs ammunition.
“We never asked for people and combat units, we are proud of our soldiers. When Macron started talking about sending troops into Ukraine, European leaders panicked. Macron only wanted to say that there is the possibility of training Ukrainian soldiers directly in Ukraine, and not outside its borders, as this is happening now,” Kuleba said.
Let us recall that on French TV, when discussing where French troops could be stationed in Ukraine, they spoke specifically about combat units.

https://t.me/intelslava/56152

Posted by: Down South | Mar 20 2024 8:01 utc | 293

Energy crisis in clean green not to mention woke Europe 🙂 The golden billion as Putin describes them have killed the goose that lays the golden eggs – or in this case energy

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 8:03 utc | 294

My last post should have been addressed to Norwegian | Mar 20 2024 7:30 utc | 283 with the comment on France losing access to African uranium.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 8:09 utc | 295

275
Unfortunately Putin doesnt have the balls for any strong reaction
His from him loved western partners know it very well
What chessmaster is underestimating the effect on ROW
Nato is sending strong message to ROW:“Putins Russia is a weak partner! We re strong and protect our partners like Ukraine“

Posted by: tesla | Mar 20 2024 8:40 utc | 296

Macron needs Russia to hit official French troops so he can inflate the numbers and cover up the large losses they have been taking there already of which the average French person knows little except rumours.
It’s a desperate gamble from a desperate man

Posted by: Jim | Mar 20 2024 8:43 utc | 297

Simplicius released a new article.
A Polish general in an interview claimed AFU losses are in ‘millions’, and CIA Burns and Lloyd Raytheon Austin said Ukraine will lose lot of territory this year unless ‘something is done’. So he wants more money for Raytheon from ‘partners’.
There you have your answer from Micron POV, he is just the messenger boy for ‘doing something’. Albeit in reality, it will have miniscule effect.
The air defense is out of systems and missiles, not helping the situation.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 20 2024 9:11 utc | 298

RE
In the Night 2000 french soldiers left the city of Presov in direction of slovak Ukraine border. A column of 100 french soldiers crossed the border at 4 am
Posted by: SlowSoft | Mar 20 2024 5:36 utc | 270
I have said as much before, but for the record now, I predict that Putin/Russia will do nothing and will avoid striking / attacking / killing any Nato/French deployment of Troops in Ukraine.
Putin is too timid, too weak, too scared to respond strongly or directly against Nato forces anywhere.
But we might now find out for sure, sooner than later.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 20 2024 6:26 utc | 275

Russia is in a trap.
What would happen if one Iskander kills 10-50 French regular soldiers in Ukraine.
An immediate saturation attack with cruise missiles on Russia’s proper.
This will result in some Russian losses.
Can Russia retaliate in France? Not with conventional forces.
So Russia would maybe retaliate only in Ukraine, causing Ukrainian, not French losses.
The West is thus, playing a smart game, and Russia can only absorb the losses. The psychopaths, such as Macron will have their way for some time. He could maybe win elections because of this as French people would see him as new Napoleon. We see that genocide in Gaza is a normal thing for Europen educated, wokist class. More death in Ukraine would be an entertainment issue for them, much better then standard TV programs.
Russia is now in a situaion where it can win only by going nuclear.
PS. Russia could asymmetrically retaliate by arming Houties in Jemen.
But Putin is just afraid to anger his partners.

Posted by: vargas | Mar 20 2024 9:22 utc | 299

What conclusions can be drawn from the statement by SVR Director Naryshkin about the preparations to send French troops to Ukraine?
🔺On March 19, Russian media disseminated a statement by the director of the Foreign Intelligence Service, Sergei Naryshkin. He said that France is preparing military personnel to be sent to Ukraine; at the initial stage, the number of troops could be about 2 thousand people.
Naryshkin added that French forces will become a priority and legitimate target for attacks by Russian armed forces.
What is the significance of the event?
In fact, we see a movement towards further escalation of the conflict with the direct involvement of, if not all of NATO, then at least part of the countries participating in the North Atlantic Alliance.
Until now, foreign military specialists took part in the conflict unofficially, as volunteers and “vacationers.” Officially, NATO countries and their armed forces did not take part in the conflict.
Note that the number of French “vacationers”, apparently, was significant. According to Naryshkin, the number of French deaths in Ukraine “has already exceeded a psychologically significant threshold.”
The official deployment of the military contingent of a NATO member country, carried out in accordance with the decision of the political leadership, changes both the status of this country in the conflict and the attitude towards it on the part of the military and political leadership of the Russian Federation.
In other words, the direct involvement of any NATO state in an armed conflict makes it possible to carry out a lot of response actions on the part of the Russian Federation. In fact, it frees the hands of the Russian military, intelligence agencies and other relevant departments.
What other conclusions can be drawn from Naryshkin’s statement?
◉ If the Foreign Intelligence Service is aware of the size of the potential French expeditionary force for Ukraine, then Russian intelligence also knows the places of potential deployment.
◉ The number of corps is 2 thousand people – this is less than the mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (in some cases, equipped with the same NATO equipment as the French troops).
◉ Any expeditionary force will have to be supplied and supported by relying on infrastructure on the territory of NATO countries. Supplying the French contingent with Ukrainian Armed Forces will be difficult, if not impossible.
◉ This scheme makes it theoretically possible for Russian troops to use force against targets on the territory of NATO countries. If France (or another state) has officially entered the conflict, then there is no reason to prevent the use of force against it.
◉ Intervention for the purpose of participation of the French expeditionary force in hot sections of the front line (in the village of Rabotino, near Orlovka or anywhere else) does not seem appropriate. If French troops end up there, then there will be no special differences between the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the French army. At the same time, 2 thousand French troops will also not bring any particular military benefit.
◉ The scenario of direct participation of foreign states in the conflict in Ukraine was probably worked out in the General Staff and the Foreign Intelligence Service.
◉ When any foreign state officially enters into a conflict, the RF Armed Forces have the opportunity to respond, including by using force against legitimate military targets on the territory of such states. Despite the obvious risks, such a scenario could make it possible to solve a number of geostrategic problems not only in Ukraine, but also in other theaters of military operations, including the western and northwestern ones.

https://t.me/two_majors/20839

Posted by: Down South | Mar 20 2024 9:24 utc | 300