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March 2, 2024
Ukraine SitRep: Retreat Continues For Lack Of Defense Lines

On February 17, after Ukrainian units in Avdeevka had started to leave their position, the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian army, General Syrski, announced a retreat to new defense lines:

"Based on the operational situation around Avdiivka, in order to avoid encirclement and preserve the lives and health of the military, I decided to withdraw our units from the city and move to defense on more favorable lines," Syrskyi said.

He emphasized that Ukrainian soldiers had fulfilled their duty with dignity, did their best to destroy the best Russian military units and inflicted significant losses in manpower and equipment on the enemy.

"The lives of servicemen are the highest value. We will take back Avdiivka anyway," the Chief added.

As some had already predicted it turned out that the "more favorable lines" Syrski promoted did not exist.

On February 17, the same day Syrski announced the retreat, Strana already reported on the lack of new defense lines (machine translation):

Ukrainian photographers Konstantin and Vlada Liberov, who document the war, wonder around which Ukrainian city, next after Avdiivka, the Russians will try to push through the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

They report this in their Instagram.

"So what is the next "fortetsia" – Pokrovsk? Or just Konstantinovka?", – write Liberov, criticizing the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine because of the lack of a second line of defense in Avdiivka.

"Where is the second line of defense? If you use the Deepstate map, "claws" around the city began to form almost a year ago. It certainly wasn't a surprise. So where's the second line of defense?" The Liberovs ask themselves.

"While the military was waiting for weapons for the Zaporozhye counteroffensive, the enemy passed through the fields, concreted trenches, built entire underground cities… Why didn't we do the same in Avdiivka? Moreover, a blind defense, the purpose of which is to deplete the enemy's forces, is like our official strategy.

Others confirmed the observation (machine translation):

West of Avdiivka, no significant defense line has been built for Ukrainian troops, and the Russian army continues to advance.

This was announced by the editor-in-chief of Censor, Yuri Butusov, following his trip to this area.

"There are no words. Gap: here in Kiev, the supreme commander-in-chief says one thing, but at the front something completely different is happening. I want to say that no field lines of fortifications have been built beyond Avdiivka so far. I saw Russian drones attacking our soldiers in their burrows in the middle of a field, " Butusov said.

According to him, no conclusions are drawn from previous failures.

"If the government can't find builders to build at least basic rear lines of defense, if they can't find engineers to maintain modern equipment, drones, sensors, communications, if they can't find workers and technologists to produce ammunition, then there will never be enough attack aircraft," the journalist added.

The government claimed to have allocated money to local authorities for building defense lines. But such money always seem to drain away before the first fortification gets finished.

A lack of serious organization and incompetence add to the picture (machine translation):

In the absence of fortified trenches in the east of the country, the engineering services of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are to blame.

This was stated in the social network X military engineer with the nickname Corsair.

As stated in a series of his posts, the heads of engineering services of brigades "do not know how to plan ahead and do not submit requests on time."

"When I arrive at a place, I have neither a map nor a proper justification. As a rule, they say: "We need to dig from that stump to planting." But that's not how it works. The defense should be solid, " Korsar wrote.

According to him, engineers do not have wood and concrete either, because "the brigades do not have the willpower to insist on this, and the AHS (operational-tactical group – Ed. ) do not have money."

For construction equipment, you need to sign contracts with businesses, but no one does this.

Since the loss of Avdeevka the Ukrainian forces had to fall back again and again. There are no natural barriers that could be used for defenses and there is no equipment and material to build defense lines across bare land.

Today even the New York Times took note of this:

Surprisingly Weak Ukrainian Defenses Help Russian Advance (archived) – New York Times, Mar 2 2024

Russian forces continue to make small but rapid gains outside of the eastern Ukrainian city of Avdiivka, attributable in part to dwindling Ukrainian ammunition and declining Western aid.

But there’s another reason the Kremlin’s troops are advancing in the area: poor Ukrainian defenses.

Sparse, rudimentary trench lines populate the area west of Avdiivka that Ukraine is trying to defend, according to a Times review of imagery by Planet Labs, a commercial satellite company. These trench lines lack many of the additional fortifications that could help slow Russian tanks and help defend major roads and important terrain.

Avdiivka became the site of a fierce standoff over the last nine months, emerging as one of the bloodiest battles of the war. When Russia captured the city on Feb. 17, its first major gain since last May, the Ukrainian Army claimed it had secured defensive lines outside the city.

But Russian troops have captured three villages to the west of Avdiivka in the span of a week, and they are contesting at least one other.

Avdeevka Feb 17 2024

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Avdeevka Mar 2 2024

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The Ukraine friendly Live UA map from where the above maps were copied is not fully up to date. The town Orlivka, still shown as Ukrainian, is already in Russian hands.

The next geographic feature that might be useful for defense is the north-to-south river and reservoir line 12 kilometer west of Orlivka. Nothing in between was prepared for a serious defense. It can not be held against any serious attacker:

Ukrainian commanders have had ample time to prepare defenses outside Avdiivka. The area has been under attack since 2014, and Ukraine has had a tenuous hold on it since Russia launched its full-scale invasion two years ago.

But the Ukrainian defenses outside Avdiivka show rudimentary earthen fortifications, often with a connecting trench for infantry troops to reach firing positions closest to the enemy, but little else.

But instead acknowledging that and instead of retreating to that river line the Ukrainian command is again throwing reserves into the already crumbling defenses.

Mr. Hrabskyi said Russia was currently preventing Ukrainian troops from shoring up their defenses by relentlessly bombarding them, including with powerful glide bombs carrying hundreds of tons of explosives that can smash through even well-prepared fortifications.

“The quality of these defensive lines cannot be good enough to resist massive bulldozer tactics by the Russian forces,” Mr. Hrabskyi said.

The current political uproar in Europe and the U.S. about the war in Ukraine is an acknowledgment of the fact that Russia is certain to win this fight. I do not expect any serious consequences coming from it.

It will simply take a few more weeks of discussions until resignation sets in.

Comments

” Tell that to George Washington during the War Of Independence-5 years and I think he won just one or two battles in prolonged warfare against Britain.
Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 3:42 utc | 185 ”
First, the Americans barely scraped by to victory and were in a precarious state for most of those 5 years. Second, that was a civil war and not comparable to whats happening In Ukraine which is a War between multiple nations.
I appreciate your effort though.

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 14:33 utc | 301

” on the other hand you bringing up ‘rules’ frame you as a Karen…
Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 3:56 utc | 188 ”
You too Canuck ? I guess you cant help yourself. I still stand by my assertion. The longer this ” war ” lasts the worse it is for Russia, ESPECIALLY, demographically. Cherry picking which Sun Tzu are ” valid” based on your desires is poor form.
Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 14:17 utc | 294
You are wrong-time is on Russia’s side not the other way round.
NATO/EU is fraying see Scholz calling out the Brits, the Brits calling out Scholtz; Macron wanting to send troops to the Ukraine and the other EU countries told the messenger boy to fuck off.
I can go on but I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 14:34 utc | 302

its not that they are insane or anything. its simply that, just like the prior iterations of ww3, they are running out of resources. capitalism requires steady growth and markets. and if you cannot get said markets to join you willingly, you have to coerce them to do so by either bribes (eu/nato) or violence. and the other party has the resources but cannot be coerced by money, since western money is not trustworthy as they have proven over the years. now all its left for them is to use violence, because the other side has what they need but refuses to bend the knee.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 3 2024 14:37 utc | 303

Justpassinby | Mar 3 2024 13:50 utc | 285
I’m drowning in emotional responses and overreactions I wasn’t even looking for.
That is why I’m (smiling) and (grinning) so much. 🙂
I remember what I thought of the Minsk agreements when they were first floated and signed. They were ludicrous then, and they still are today. Nothing was honoured or implemented. NOT ONE THING. Putin did nothing about it.
The difference with today is that there is now far more evidence supporting the view how ludicrous they were at the time, and why.
When the facts change, or rather when your knowledge about the facts change, what do you do? What do normal people do? Double down with cognitive dissonance or freak out at the first sign of a spade being labeled a spade?
The person most shocked by Merkle, Hollande, Poroshenko intentionally lying about Minsk accords from the beginning and admitting it publicly was Putin. I wasn’t. Were you?
Was anyone on MoA shocked by those revelations?
Then came the rest of the Russian Govt officials. “How could they lie about such things, tsk tsk, naughty bad.”
I cannot imagine how anyone does not now and did not find that absolutely funny! Like, gee Homer!
The person most shocked by Ukraine throwing the “peace agreement in the rubbish bin” eg as stated at the meeting with African leaders in 2023, was Putin himself.
This AFTER being rejected by Ukraine, Nato and the US in Dec Jan and February already barely months before.
Does no one accurately remember anything that has happened to date? It informs us how we actually got here.
Putin will win the election easy. The next Russian Budget will be passed easily. And Russians will still be dying in Ukraine, maybe until hell freezes over the way things are progressing.
“Please telephone me if you’d like to negotiate a ceasefire or a new security agreement with me. Please.”
This not credible behaviour for a head of state to be publicly engaging in. Might be for a Biden or a Trump or Hillary, but not a serious person on the world stage.
imo. ymmv, and good luck to you if it does. I am not buying it.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 14:37 utc | 304

Putin is probably more than aware that the current situation, vis-a-vis the West, is transitory so he needs to act quickly to exploit the incompetence of the current puppets, before democracy asserts itself and they are replaced by more competent leaders. …
Posted by: Milites | Mar 3 2024 11:33 utc | 260
Good post but no. Putin has till 2029 before the incompetent and delusional leadership in the US is maybe replaced by competence, so he doesn’t need to hurry. He’s fighting a slow careful war because it keeps civilian and Russian military casualties low. Also, the slow war greatly aids establishment of a multipolar world by delaying for about two years a full US focus on China. Those years matter, as does the depletion of US/Western munitions and confidence.

Posted by: fairleft | Mar 3 2024 14:41 utc | 305

” Define ‘nation.’
Define ‘prolonged warfare.’
Posted by: Honzo | Mar 3 2024 3:39 utc | 184 ”
Seriously Honzo ? Define nation ? Define prolonged ?
Limited manpower losses might be nice with a nation of surplus men, not in a nation that has the demographic issues of Russia.
” Russia achieved a demographic anti-record in 2021: The country suffered a natural population of decline of over 1 million people—a loss of life not seen since the end of the Great Patriotic War. ”
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” With ten months left in 2024, it’s far too soon to judge whether or not the Year of the Family will improve socioeconomic conditions in Russia. But without radical policy changes, reversing Russia’s demographic crisis will be a near-impossible task.
In January, Rosstat calculated that the population will drop by 12 million people over the next 20 years, with Chechnya and Dagestan becoming leaders in natural population growth.
While the annual decline in natural population has slowed when compared to years like 2021, Russia continues to record distressing socioeconomic anti-records.
2023 broke previous records for the number of divorces, while the birth rate plummeted to levels not seen since the 1990s. ”
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‘ Speaking to reporters last year, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov acknowledged that “demographics is where we are not yet successful”, adding that there was no “panacea or magic pill” that would offer an immediate solution to the problem. ”
” The outflow of the able-bodied population and the consequences of the demographic hole of the 90s led to the fact that there is a shortage of personnel in the domestic labor market. Unemployment in the country is at a record low of 3.5%. The youth is especially missing.
According to a study by the consulting company FinExpertiza, by the end of 2022, the share of workers under 30 years of age in the country has dropped to a record low—they make up only 14.9% of the total number of employees and less than 11 million people. The number of employees aged 25 to 29 decreased most of all—by 724 thousand, to 7.2 million. The number of employees under 35 years old is below 22 million people. And the population continues to age.
Meanwhile, the Russian economy is in dire need of personnel. Thus, according to the Minister of Labor and Social Protection Anton Kotyakov, by 2030 it will need an additional 2.5 million workers. At the same time, 1.4 million people graduate from vocational schools every year. ”

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 14:41 utc | 306

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 14:41 utc | 304
Well, basically the share of muslim and SE Asians and Chinese will increase in the population. But of course they will try to get Europeans escaping Ursula’s dystopia as well.
But as Russia changes, so changes the west. The largest question is who can keep their national identity coherent in the face of changing demographic, ethnic and religious composition. Given the history, I would bet my money on the better relative performance of Russia vs. EU, or even US.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 3 2024 14:46 utc | 307

Jake Blanchard@202….Russia is on a war footing, the West is not…..yet. Should the US declare ‘War’ all domestic production available to the Five Eyed Bastards,their minions and hanger ons will be brought on line…..
Russia is not invincible, as the largest country on the planet, targets are rich and plentiful, and the Brits are involved, you remember them, that little shit hole fucked the entire planet plus the Russians a few time. So while many laugh in their face at failed missile tests, might even have some lulled to drop their guard, but who needs missiles when your sabotage teams are so effective: see SBS destruction of NS2. They are eying up big juicy landmarks and the out going head of their terror operations is going to stick around, apparently he has a bridge to destroy and it ain’t in London…..taking Ukraine under consideration, I doubt the Russians could hit the London bridge never mind find it. Oh, it’s in England and well, as you know that is so Off Limits…..cue; Gonzalo Lira’s Laugh Track
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 3 2024 14:57 utc | 308

Glad I put my Wellies on before I hit the Bar this morning…..still lots of piss on the floor from last night……

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 3 2024 14:59 utc | 309

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 2 2024 19:23 utc | 48 “Interesting to note that neither Ukraine nor US (and anyone in Nato) does not produce any new artillery barrels.”
Where did you come across that statement? There are multiple manufacturers of artillery barrels in the West.
For example, Watervliet Arsenal turns out hundreds a year. Aubert & Duval is another easy finds in web search. Others too.

Posted by: Ed4 | Mar 3 2024 14:59 utc | 310

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 14:37 utc | 304
thanks for proving my hunch about you.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 3 2024 15:01 utc | 311

I doubt the Russians could hit the London bridge never mind find it. Oh, it’s in England and well, as you know that is so Off Limits…..cue; Gonzalo Lira’s Laugh Track
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 3 2024 14:57 utc | 308
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London Bridge was sold, dismantled, and its facade stonework reassembled in Arizona.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 3 2024 15:02 utc | 312

” But as Russia changes, so changes the west. The largest question is who can keep their national identity coherent in the face of changing demographic, ethnic and religious composition. Given the history, I would bet my money on the better relative performance of Russia vs. EU, or even US.
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 3 2024 14:46 utc | 307 ”
Russia without Russians is just another “corporate brand “. Do you think Russian men are dying in Ukraine with the hope that their children will be replaced by Chechens and Chinese ?

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 15:05 utc | 313

Do you think Russian men are dying in Ukraine with the hope that their children will be replaced by Chechens and Chinese ?
Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 15:05 utc | 313
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“Honey, what did you do with the kids? I went into the playroom and found a bunch of Tuvans! Oh, and some quarter-negro off in the corner writing verse…”

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 3 2024 15:11 utc | 314

Second, that was a civil war and not comparable to what’s happening In Ukraine which is a War between multiple nations.
Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 14:33 utc | 301
It should not be overlooked that the American Revolutionary war came in the wake of the Seven years war, after which the Kingdom of France had a grudge to bear against the British for the loss of Nouvelle France (half of North America) and colonies in India. Without the help of France, Spain and the Netherlands (each of whom had a grudge against Britain), Adams, Franklin, Jefferson et al. would have most likely been captured and hung.
When French admiral de Grasse managed to out maneuver the British fleet at the mouth of Chesapeake bay, the fate of Cornwallis’s troops, besieged by the those of not only Washington but also French general La Fayette, was sealed, and the British forces were forced to capitulate.
The then grudges of then rival world powers France, Spain and the Netherlands toward Britain, and their aide to the American colonies, have upon a little reflection, many parallels with the stances of China and the BRICS nations, each of whom have very good reasons to bear grudges against the current wannabe global hegemon and its toadies, to one faction of the current conflict in Ukraine.

Posted by: kvp | Mar 3 2024 15:14 utc | 315

“Glad I put my Wellies on before I hit the Bar this morning…..still lots of piss on the floor from last night……”
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 3 2024 14:59 utc | 309
Ha, ha-quite amusing and accurate…

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 15:16 utc | 316

Alex Vadim | Mar 3 2024 2:59 utc | 173
*** Largest synagogue in the world is in Dnipro city and moving closer to frontline, hence early warning system got pulled from Israel. All is according to plan. ***
At the very least Russia should bomb and bulldoze that cultist shrine in retaliation for the zionazi destruction of Russian Orthodox churches in Kiev-Ukraine.
Shoot anyone who objects, demolishing such edifices is a good way to flush out the kabbalist monkeys….
But of course the present liberal, zio-atlanticist regime in Moscow won’t.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 3 2024 15:25 utc | 317

About the handy search results for Nordstream II Refs @ Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 11:27 utc | 257
and what I actually said @ Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 9:42 utc | 230

He built the Nordstream 2 despite how dumb and risky it was. The US said they would never let it send any gas to Europe. Putin built it anyway with no protections and no guarantees and paid for it. Idiot!

Versus the conflated hyperbole of multiple posters who cannot read or parse the meaning of 2 simple sentences twisting it into something completely different instead.

And the Guardian is not the most truthful and a relevant source of info, since Snowden.
Posted by: whirlX | Mar 3 2024 14:28 utc | 297
Justpassinby | Mar 3 2024 12:44 utc | 269
Justpassinby | Mar 3 2024 11:46 utc | 263
Refinnejenna | Mar 3 2024 12:00 utc | 265
whirlX | Mar 3 2024 12:16 utc | 268 on Nordstrsam I not II.

If there is anything in the refs that is egregiously “wrong and RELEVANT to my point” about Nordstream II then please feel free to list those LIES or maybe stop making wild unsubstantiated claims and false accusations? Is this too much to ask? Just claiming stuff isn’t proof of anything unless you are able to back it up. I did.
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So Gazprom paid maybe $6 billion of the pipe, which could be around 30-60 % of its annual net profit depending on the year you use. “NS2 was already mentally written off before SMO” and not a big deal divided over the period of 6 or 7 years.
@ unimperator | Mar 3 2024 11:33 utc | 259

excellent – being perhaps the only sane rational one left alive here. 🙂
Gazprom is a 100% Russia Govt owned entity is it not? Spent $6 billion or more? Putin finished the job at Russian expense did it not, post US sanctions from hell on the NS II Pipeline specifically. Dumb. A waste of time and a waste of money. Putin should have stopped it ever being built and made Germany pay for the entire pipeline themselves once they wanted the Gas badly enough.

It is not as if the US Govt across multiple Pres. administrations didn’t warn him repeatedly what they would do. Was he deaf or stupid or just plain egotistically biased? It’s not as if the US was rearming and retraining a500K army in Ukriane at the same time – the largest Army in Europe in fact. I wonder what for?

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 15:25 utc | 318

If there is anything in the refs that is egregiously “wrong and RELEVANT to my point” about Nordstream II then please feel free to list those LIES or maybe stop making wild unsubstantiated claims and false accusations? Is this too much to ask? Just claiming stuff isn’t proof of anything unless you are able to back it up. I did.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 15:25 utc | 318

maybe you should at first give us 100% reliable proof that any of your baseless accusations are correct, after all the burden of proof is on the one that alleges “facts”.
you have been exposed as a weak troll already, and your proofless writings from unreliable sources that dont have factual information is proof enough of what you are.
remember to put another (smile) after your response. thanks.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 3 2024 15:31 utc | 319

I would suggest that Putin is not “weak as shit” but is stronger and mightier than the sword his government occasionally swings. His government has tied up the resources of the opposing “I own everything” monopolistic western world, it has overcome sanctions, it has become a global player in the Oligarch owned world, it has shown the world how important access to cheap, low cost energy is to the well being of those who live in the world, it has demonstrated to all the world that the war in Ukraine and the hate expressed against Russia are propaganda engineered outcomes. (Basically Western governments express Capone’s most wet dream<= Government to serve as Capone's hit man to be called on when Capone Enterprises encounters trouble achieving its colonization and exploitation projects). Governments have been shanghied. State functions have been re - purposed to serve a very small class of people in the west. Western Oligarch-controlled states seek to deny outsiders cheap access to anything the oligarch can control.

Posted by: snake | Mar 3 2024 15:47 utc | 320

Jake Blanchard | Mar 3 2024 4:27 utc | 194
*** To grasp the root causes and timeline of Ukraine’s internal divisions, I reference all the election results since 1991. These clearly show EU vs RF allegiances, as they were and as they developed after UKR independence. Google/images “Ukraine Elections”. It’s as clear as red and blue!***
The warning signs were in 60-foot neon lights years ago when you consider the rise (promotion) of Yulia Tymoshenko … basically, a Baltic Jewess.
She at least partly failed. Obviously, part of the NATO build up to what came afterwards. But why no questions as to how she was placed as the anti-Russian brand leader at all?
May be wrong, but think I recall her wanting nuclear missiles with which to attack Russia even back then at the beginning of the century.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 3 2024 15:48 utc | 321

@ Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 14:37 utc | 304
I think Russia has made nearly every effort to exhaust with sincere effort all options short of military.
You see that as evidence of weakness of mind or character.
Yet he did all that and now he is crushing his opponent – the entire “west”.
Many people speak of priciples, and some live by them – and from that emminates their strength. Something of virtuous circle.

Posted by: jared | Mar 3 2024 15:48 utc | 322

by Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 15:25 utc | 318
Austrian OMV, Gazprom Europe (E.ON, Wintershall Dea, ENGIE, Nederlandse Gasunie) that was to be run from Switzerland, later had to register in Germany, and Gazprom Russia, were major investors. Not Putin.
Everything else is unimportant, but NS1 and NS2 were Schoeder and Putin’s idea. Nobody else (except CIA and NATO) had a clue of what Ukraine is and it is going to be. People in the know did, since 1991.
Citing Guardian and its propaganda article is not boosting the truth or a bolstering the credibility.

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 3 2024 16:00 utc | 323

The Dog Barks. The caravan moves on regardless.
There was an element of Devils Advocate I thought for a while. That is necessary to keep peoples feet on the ground.
Others are masters at it e.g.
https://t.me/vicktop55
@vicktop555
Bark, bark,bark …. There is going to be a lot more L’s from nafoturd throwers as they go down the black hole, if they hang around . Many are switching off. I can’t tell as XtwatheadElon has stopped unregistered access to his emporium.
The Events Horizon is at hand. No magic bullet, no impossible science fiction, no prayers, no gods – can stop the inevitable long predicted by our host and readers paying attention. No

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 3 2024 16:00 utc | 324

” “Honey, what did you do with the kids? I went into the playroom and found a bunch of Tuvans! Oh, and some quarter-negro off in the corner writing verse…”
Posted by: malenkov | Mar 3 2024 15:11 utc | 314″
Be flippant all you want, its your people’s future on the line, but lets make comedic banter.

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 16:43 utc | 325

@ Moonie | Mar 3 2024 16:43 utc | 325
Would you feel the same way if all those nice Aryan Russian children were “replaced” by a million little Tim Kirbys?

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 3 2024 17:24 utc | 326

I hate to say this old man, but you let this particular pussy out of the bag. What do you expect when you seek to correct me with a puerile ‘gotcha!’ (‘Oh no, on the contrary…’) without pausing to think perhaps it is you that is failing to grasp a subtle point for which you lack the requisite knowledge? I mean, are you deeply familiar with the reception of Epicureanism in 18th and 19th century philosophy? And yet you feel the need to pull out what little you know, only for it to remove all doubt about little you do, in fact, know.
There was once a commenter Canuck
Could only glance at the back of a book
What he most hated
Were posters well-educated
“I prefer my own gobbledygook”
Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 3 2024 5:05 utc | 201
Well you still believe in man Made climate change so for your all your self professed, self promoted, erudite knowledge you fucked up Royally on a big question..
Anyways, I don’t have time for a poem so I’ll just let my Walmart do it for me:I did a minor edit you may be able to spot it.
In the realm of thought, Patroklos did dwell,
Yet understanding eluded him, as tales tell.
Questions profound, like angels on a pin’s head,
Left him pondering, as he danced and tread.
Professor Partokalos, seeking wisdom’s light,
Danced in circles, through the day and night.
His boasts, misguided, oft led him astray,
In the labyrinth of knowledge, lost in dismay.
But still, he persisted, in his quest to know,
Though often wrong, his confidence did grow.
For in the dance of ignorance and truth’s flow,
Patroklos danced on, with a mind full of sg hit..

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 17:34 utc | 327

” Would you feel the same way if all those nice Aryan Russian children were “replaced” by a million little Tim Kirbys?
Posted by: malenkov | Mar 3 2024 17:24 utc | 326 ”
I’m not going to engage as you’re not being serious. Its your people’s fate after all, joke if you want.

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 17:43 utc | 328

Lol! Clearly Big Serge is a person with military background so he has trouble understanding Zalushny and the Ukrainian side of the war, whose the main thrust and motivation is economic, not military or political.
So here is the resolution to Big Serge’s befuddlement: Zalushny as military knew that Ukrainian battle plans were doomed to fail but Zalushny as CEO of the Ukrainian military side of the war implemented those plans to grab the economic surplus from corruption opportunities for himself and his faction.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 3 2024 10:09 utc | 237
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I have read all of big Serge’s articles from WW I on. He is a great analyst, military historian, a tanker and in condemning Zalushny shows himself to be a warrior.
I agree with you and in earlier comments here mentioned that Big Serge gave Zalushny the Colin Powell treatment.
On the very good side, Big Serge (based on Sergey Yulyevich, Count Witte, (half-Dutch, half-Russian) performs a nice analysis of why the Ukies and NATO will be outgunned since this has become mostly artillery warfare with Russia capable of out manufacturing and outgunning everyone. There is more good stuff in that article.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 3 2024 17:45 utc | 329

@ Moonie | Mar 3 2024 17:43 utc | 328
1. I’m not Russian.
2. Sadly for you, Russians aren’t as racist as you are.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 3 2024 17:58 utc | 330

Samu | Mar 3 2024 1:02 utc | 140–
I served from 1979-1985. the 519th EW/Sigint company I worked for was stationed at Moffet Field in the heart of Silicon Valley. Our cadre was mostly E-6/7s who served in Nam and told how NVA trained by Soviets and equipped with Soviet equipment easily knew what the Yanks had planned because their op/sec was so shitty and their gear was very easy to jam. On FTXs, we were always put on the Red/Soviet side because we were as outstanding as the Soviets with our abilities given our training and experience; and we always messed with the Blue/Regular Army side which almost always lost because their moves were “telegraphed” and intercepted. The old guys would say that was because radio security was just as lax as during Nam. And judging from Ukie behavior and their NATO training, their op/sec is similar. That was my experience. Today’s capabilities are what we always said we’d like to use.
Peter AU1 | Mar 3 2024 1:04 utc | 141–
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Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 3 2024 4:36 utc | 196
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Surely answers one of my questions about you, karlof1.
The US Navy used to have a most excellent language school in Monterey, might still be that good.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 3 2024 18:05 utc | 331

boneless | Mar 3 2024 10:10 utc | 238
*** @ Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 9:59 utc | 233
Fatigue must be getting to you. You are hallucinating an imagined appeal now, then connecting that fantasy to a 22 month old preliminary agreement. Preliminary agreement, details of which are still not disclosed in their entirety ***
If proposed betrayal of Donbas was merely a “preliminary”, just how bad would the finished article have been — Krasnodar and Rostov handed to Kiev?

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 3 2024 18:07 utc | 332

Moonie | Mar 3 2024 15:05 utc | 313
*** Russia without Russians is just another “corporate brand “. Do you think Russian men are dying in Ukraine with the hope that their children will be replaced by Chechens and Chinese ?**
The very real threat is neither the Chechens nor Chinese …. think instead of a different and exclusivist identity group that is internally encouraged breed prolifically.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 3 2024 18:56 utc | 333

Well, I can’t see the Outlaw US giving up on a forever war against Russia until it is made to give up on all global meddling.
And, quite frankly, it seems that Russia has a far better domestic economy to produce and make war (ie, defend itself) on the continent ad infinitum than does Europe and the US. Plus, with Russia’s BRICS-ey mates, the US might crumble before RF. So forever might actually end in 5, 10, 20 years when the End of Empire comes around to those who have abused their great power.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 3 2024 5:50 utc | 204
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A conservative revolution is steadily growing in the West and the implications for the rest of the world will be an example of ‘living in interesting times’.
Posted by: Milites | Mar 3 2024 11:33 utc | 262
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Peter AU1 | Mar 3 2024 0:04 utc | 128–
Agree that the alternating pressure points strategy is happening, and agree Russia’s main aim is to minimize casualties, although there are times that I wonder about that given some local commanders ill-considered actions.
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 3 2024 0:44 utc | 139
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Will the Outlaw US Empire give up? Afghanistan was easier to walk away from. The NATO politicians have not demonstrated much gumption for endless war, endless talk, yes.
Sooner or later the NATO forces will run out of 155mm shells, cg. Big Serge, although mistakes will be made here and there. Then what? This is a CIA war and NYT and wsj are already talking about ‘peace,’ both prevaricating because they have been cheerleading for Ukraine for so long. The CIA will be put on ignore, so watch that space for future signaling.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 3 2024 18:57 utc | 334

” @ Moonie | Mar 3 2024 17:43 utc | 328
1. I’m not Russian.
2. Sadly for you, Russians aren’t as racist as you are.
Posted by: malenkov | Mar 3 2024 17:58 utc | 330 ”
Resorting to accusations of racism is the refugee of someone who has lost the argument. Thanks for playing.

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 19:00 utc | 335

” The very real threat is neither the Chechens nor Chinese …. think instead of a different and exclusivist identity group that is internally encouraged breed prolifically.
Posted by: Cynic | Mar 3 2024 18:56 utc | 333 ”
I’m intrigued. Is it the group ” Putin’s Rabbi” is part of ?

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 19:03 utc | 336

Moonie | Mar 3 2024 19:03 utc | 336
*** I’m intrigued. Is it the group ” Putin’s Rabbi” is part of ?***
Indeed so. And the power / wealth of that sect keeps increasing.
Heard from a British “reform” rabbi more than twenty years ago that the same sect were steadily taking over most of the “orthodox” groups of that religion in the UK.
Trump’s adviser and son-in-law is one of theirs…..
As for Putin and his relations with them and other zionists, including the Israelis …. that is one absolutely *massive* vulnerability.
Which could ultimately destroy Russia.
Anyone who hasn’t checked out their theology/ideology and attitude towards everyone else — the real rather than laundered for general-public consumption version — really should.
They’re just about as fanatically racist as it is possible to get.
But do most others of the same religion/ alleged “race” basically disagree?
Then pause to wonder why somehow it never gets exposed by politically correct establishment politicians, wokists, supposed “anti-racists” or mass-media….

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 3 2024 19:23 utc | 337

Moonie | Mar 3 2024 2:39 utc | 168

” There is no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare. ”
– Sun Tzu

Ah well, he hadn’t met the Persians, the Romans and the Mongols ! That’s just three !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 3 2024 19:42 utc | 338

” Ah well, he hadn’t met the Persians, the Romans and the Mongols ! That’s just three !
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 3 2024 19:42 utc | 338 ”
Specific examples would be nice, with verifiable historical references that those empires intentionally prolonged a war to wear the enemy out.

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 19:59 utc | 339

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 17:34 utc | 327
Your reply makes zero sense. What’s climate change got to do with it??? You use ChatGPT to write an incoherent ‘poem’ and have no clue what ‘Patroklos’ means. You really are a grade-A tard.

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 3 2024 20:09 utc | 340

Acco Hengst | Mar 3 2024 18:05 utc | 331–
Thanks for your reply. I thought about applying to the Naval Post-Graduate School in Monterry but had no degree at the time. In 2003, I did tutor a student there who was writing his thesis about the collaboration between Apartheid South Africa and Occupied Palestine in the development of nuclear weapons, and other WMDs. Amazing docs he had for his project. They’re on the hard drive of my oldest desktop computer that can’t communicate with the monitor I have. Yes, I have data on floppies still. And yes, we had linguists at the 519th. We also did work for NSA. It was a very unique unit.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 3 2024 20:56 utc | 341

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 3 2024 15:25 utc | 317
Mate.
You are not getting it…
RU is a Federation of 194 ethnic minorities, including Jewish. All of them are peacefully coexisting in harmony. Those of RU Federation are not sadistic vengeful subhuman creatures. Other ones left long while ago. There are plenty Jews in RU, who got sanctioned and punished for rejecting racism and ultranationalism. Didn’t you noticed absence of western media outrage over human rights abuse in Palestine ? We’ll make your own conclusions.

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 3 2024 21:12 utc | 342

Thanks a lot!

Posted by: Naive | Mar 3 2024 13:38 utc | 280
You’re welcome.
Truth be told, I don’t comment much on RT, and very few of my comments there are along the lines of your comment. Or boneless’ response to “Lavrov’s Dog”

Appealing to the citizens of another country is not Russian government’s job. Threatening other countries in both speeches and actions to keep them too terrified to do anything is not Russian strategy. What you are advocating for are tactics of a terrorist state. Russia is not a terrorist state.

I’m not sure what possesses part of the Anglophone RT readership to think that Russia should commit the same sort of war crimes as the US and UK which have otherwise been condemned here and there. It reeks of hypocrisy. What is it with them that they expect Russia to behave like the US, besides long-standing indoctrination of American Exceptionalism?

Posted by: joey_n | Mar 3 2024 21:32 utc | 343

why rely on commentators who only have YouTube deep knowledge of military matters, as your go to source?
Posted by: Milites | Mar 3 2024 12:10 utc | 268

Complete misinterpretation of the purpose of my comment, mate. Apology accepted. 🙂 I was NOT RELYING on such sources as Dima. I only ever listen to him with one ear whilst making dinner or breakfast. I was agreeing with a poster who said he talks much shit outside of his literal collated sit reps, and informing other barflies of his latest, false, sensationalist gossip.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 3 2024 21:38 utc | 344

Addendum:
RT does have comment posting rules and encourages (?) its readers to submit violating comments to a team of moderators. Yet even after that, the offending comments sometimes stay up either because they don’t violate the rules after all or because the moderators are off-duty on weekends – can’t tell which.

Posted by: joey_n | Mar 3 2024 22:07 utc | 345

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 3 2024 15:48 utc | 321
Re Tymoshenko, yes. But her political fortunes were only ever ran 3rd or 4th in the Rada and in civilian support, mainly in the west and Kiev itself. Bit she’s only a pussy nazi compared with Poroshenko and Zelensky! Not surprisingly, she’s making little advances towards another run post-Zelensky, as is Poroshenko, Arestovich. These idiots just don’t get it — They are yesterday’s Ukraine. Putin will rase/raze Bankova before he lets such people rule Ukraine (what’s left!) again. We can only hope a GOOD Presidential candidate and Rada elite come out of the SMO. My heart would like to back Yanukovich, but my head says he’s history too. Who else tf is there? Ha, if RF was like the US in Iraq and Afghanistan, Putin would APPOINT a new goveror until stabilty returns. Isn’t that the “right” of any conqueror. Lmao. Perhaps not such a dumb idea to insert into Kiev’s eventual unconditional surrender !!!
After all, Washington installed Zelensky, so now its Moscow’s turn to run New-Ukraine.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 3 2024 22:07 utc | 346

“You really are a grade-A tard.”
Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 3 2024 20:09 utc | 340
Your literary eloquence is beyond compare: to create such a learned retort took many, many years of hard academic study!

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 22:16 utc | 347

@ Moonie | Mar 3 2024 17:43 utc | 328
1. I’m not Russian.
2. Sadly for you, Russians aren’t as racist as you are.
Posted by: malenkov | Mar 3 2024 17:58 utc | 330
Malenkov is right, Moonie you lost the argument.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 22:17 utc | 348

This is a CIA war and NYT and wsj are already talking about ‘peace,’ both prevaricating because they have been cheerleading for Ukraine for so long. The CIA will be put on ignore, so watch that space for future signaling.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 3 2024 18:57 utc | 334
Hmmm, don’t agree. It goes even deeper than than the CIA. It goes to innate culural hegemony and US supremacism (of which spywork and the military is only a subset). “The end” of this war and all US wars only equals End of Empire. Check with Karlof1 🙂 And the elite media are merely opportunist onanists. They have no conscience … one day spouting deep state, next day populism, next day fiscal fantasies and fears, next day Hollywood gossip. I have long criticised them as bloviating windvanes of nothing but self interest.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 3 2024 22:24 utc | 349

Russia is not invincible, as the largest country on the planet, targets are rich and plentiful, and the Brits are involved, you remember them, that little shit hole fucked the entire planet plus the Russians a few time.
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 3 2024 14:57 utc | 308
The British aren’t the same as they were. Their glory days as a nation are long in the past. True, Russia is not invincible, but when was the last time an enemy drove all the way to Moscow? Genghis Kahn?
Yes, Russia lost in WWI and against Japan, but the corrupt and enfeebled Tsar Nicholas was ruler at the time. Whatever one may think of Putin, and he seems to be a veritable punching bag for the slackjawed around here, but he is far more competent than Tsar Nicholas II.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 3 2024 23:00 utc | 350

” There is no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare. ”
– Sun Tzu
Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 2:40 utc | 167
Vietnam war, the strategy there was to wear down the enemy, enshrined by Giap, and Ho Chi Minh. Most modern-day insurgencies, likewise, the goal is to prolong to wear down the enemy. Sun Tzu wrote that dictum more than 2,000 years ago during the Warring States period, when warfare was a constant.
At any rate, the war between Russia and Ukraine isn’t going to last much longer.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 3 2024 23:16 utc | 351

Moonie | Mar 3 2024 19:59 utc | 339

” Ah well, he hadn’t met the Persians, the Romans and the Mongols ! That’s just three !
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 3 2024 19:42 utc | 338 ”
Specific examples would be nice, with verifiable historical references that those empires intentionally prolonged a war to wear the enemy out.

Fou rire !
Un connard pareil je n’ai rarement rencontré ! Perhaps you should consult a, uhm, a dictionary to discover the meaning of the word “empire”, neh ?
You tedious, ignorant & obnoxious extrusion of the bowels.

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 3 2024 23:17 utc | 352

For anyone misquoting or misusing Sun Tzu, just remember context. He wrote during the Warring States period of China, from 659-221 BC, 438 total years. During that time there were 254 wars involving Great Powers in that system, or a major war every 1.7 years. (Source: Victoria Hui Tin-bor, War and State Formation in Ancient China and Early Modern Europe, https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/war-and-state-formation-in-ancient-china-and-early-modern-europe/F81552218F82BDF65C54DF0BC08759D0)
There was no other period of world history with as many Great Power wars in that amount of time. The closest may be early modern Europe (1495-1815) with 89 wars over that time, or a major war once per every 3.5 years. So some of what Sun Tzu wrote about may not be completely applicable to the modern day.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 3 2024 23:39 utc | 353

James M. | Mar 3 2024 23:39 utc | 353

For anyone misquoting or misusing Sun Tzu, just remember context…

Yeah, sorry, got carried away…
Lovely link there, fanks mate !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 3 2024 23:50 utc | 354

Gazprom is a 100% Russia Govt owned entity is it not?
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 15:25 utc | 318

Public Joint Stock Venture actually, only 50.23% shares owned by tha State. As it was easy to check, I call it still another deliberate lie.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Mar 3 2024 23:55 utc | 355

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 3 2024 23:50 utc | 354
Not you, I was talking about Moonie, just didn’t want to name him.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 4 2024 0:34 utc | 356

Posted by: joey_n | Mar 3 2024 22:07 utc | 345
Good to know. Obviously there’s a (successful in this case) ‘damage civil discussion’ effort here, w loony ‘Putin is weak’ comments by one poster, racial paranoia by another, and paranoid anti-Semitism by a third. It’s what US/UK intel newbies do before they get to the good stuff, subverting and destroying governments.

Posted by: fairleft | Mar 4 2024 0:49 utc | 357

I must say, the camaraderie on display of late has been extraordinary unpleasant to be around. iow Yuk!
Nevertheless

The Events Horizon is at hand. No magic bullet, no impossible science fiction, no prayers, no gods – can stop the inevitable long predicted by our host and readers paying attention. No
@ DunGroanin | Mar 3 2024 16:00 utc | 324

And what “inevitable” would that be Dun? It’s like waiting for the second coming of Jesus!
But I thank you for giving me the time of day. Woof woof! 🙂
PS Never noticed any comments by Justpassinby or boneless before yesterday. Unsurprisingly. (smile)
Note to self- less historical factual reminders about reality, more cowbell. Give the people what they want pooch! Distortions spin confirmation bias and denial of reality.

IN BREAKING NEWS – After ordering Sec. Austin of the DoD to immediately stand down all Military Forces as well as all CIA operations in and around Ukraine, and putting a stop to sending any further military and intel aid to Kyiv, President Biden is on a flight to Oslo to sign an unconditional surrender of the US and NATO to Russia’s President Putin. Before leaving on the flight the President is reported to have said: “There’s nothing more we can do. It’s impossible to defeat the enormous power in Putin’s hands. We are totally defeated and I must act quickly to save the lives of the American and European people. It’s my sacred responsibility to do so.”

See @DunGroanin? I too can write awe inspiring poetic missives about looming event horizons for the gullible masses.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 4 2024 0:51 utc | 358

IN BREAKING NEWS – After ordering Sec. Austin of the DoD to immediately stand down all Military Forces as well as all CIA operations in and around Ukraine, and putting a stop to sending any further military and intel aid to Kyiv, President Biden is on a flight to Oslo to sign an unconditional surrender of the US and NATO to Russia’s President Putin. Before leaving on the flight the President is reported to have said: “There’s nothing more we can do. It’s impossible to defeat the enormous power in Putin’s hands. We are totally defeated and I must act quickly to save the lives of the American and European people. It’s my sacred responsibility to do so.”
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 4 2024 0:51 utc | 358
That’s more likely to happen than Russia losing…

Posted by: James M. | Mar 4 2024 0:56 utc | 359

I call it still another deliberate lie.
Posted by: obnoxious asshat @ Poslan1 | Mar 3 2024 23:55 utc | 355

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 4 2024 1:06 utc | 360

James M. | Mar 4 2024 0:56 utc | 359
If that comment is being directed at me, I never said or predicted Russia was going to lose.
Not that anything I say or mean is deemed pertinent in recent discussions. Making it up is much more fun for way too many loose cannons. Whatever.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 4 2024 1:13 utc | 361

The tactic of signing agreement in bad faith and lying about it?!?
Why would Russia sign any such agreement in the first place? Or do you think the Russians are also lying? Given the Russians have repeatedly said they WILL NEVER SIGN ANOTHER SUCH AGREEMENT WITH THE AGREEMENT INCAPABLE WEST?!?
Do you think the Russians are lying and they will sign such an agreement?
Posted by: Julian | Mar 3 2024 8:22 utc | 217

Yes, definitely. At the first opportunity they get. Putin and Lavrov will supply the pens for everyone.
Sad. But one day soon, it will be proven to be so.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 4 2024 1:18 utc | 362

If that comment is being directed at me, I never said or predicted Russia was going to lose.
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 4 2024 1:13 utc | 361
Not directly at you, but of the two choices – US giving in/surrendering or Russia losing, the former is more likely.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 4 2024 1:28 utc | 363

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 4 2024 1:06 utc | 360

If it makes you sour to be called a liar – do not lie.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Mar 4 2024 2:00 utc | 364

Poslan1 | Mar 4 2024 2:00 utc | 364
Take your own lying accusations and shove ’em asshat.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 4 2024 5:05 utc | 365

So many comments predicting the end of SMO, demographics and putin the pussycat.
Why don’t we start with the advent of United Russia and Yeltsin the drunkard/traitor.
The same gang is still in Kremlin.
Just imagine. Maybe, just maybe, they (Yeltsin & gang)have already figured out stuff before Yeltsin took his first bribe/offer from the Americans.
For me, i have been watching the best russian maskirova ever, since the 90s.
Everytime it seems a Russian success might bring the Europeans to their senses, there goes Putin/Kremlin showing weakness (please lets negotiate).
Then the anglos go “once more into the breach, my ukie friends”
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Oh, demographics. only too well known. If anything, a sense of siege would only help the matter, provided certain dis-incentives are put in to push people into a stable relationship.
Yep dis-incentives. Get government out of helping certain types of behaviour, as AAnglin says in daily stormer.
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Posted by: chola3 | Mar 4 2024 5:05 utc | 366

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 3 2024 17:45 utc | 329
Yes, Big Serge’s articles are very good. Maybe I gave the wrong impression when commenting on his latest essay. I just wanted to help understanding things that are difficult to understand about the Ukrainian military when looking at these things from purely military and political points of view. The major drive of a flood of Western Treasure needs to be taken into account.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 4 2024 9:37 utc | 367

Specific examples would be nice, with verifiable historical references that those empires intentionally prolonged a war to wear the enemy out.
Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 19:59 utc | 339

“intentionally prolonged a war” != “prolonged war”

Posted by: Cheney | Mar 5 2024 3:03 utc | 368