Further associations are Victoria Nulands surprise retirement. Theres a good chance she was involved in this attack, a sort of good bye and fuck you to all sorts of people.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 24 2024 15:39 utc | 4

Victoria Nuland’s retirement and Crocus attack
I want to continue this discussion from the previous thread. Did Victoria Nuland retire or was she fired?
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 23 2024 10:25 utc | 84:

It has been claimed, that the aim of the “Russian Volunteer Force” and “Freedom of Russia Legion” attack across the border into Belgorod region was to capture a nuclear weapons storage site 20 km from border. It is unlikely Americans would approve of such an attack, any more than the Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian oil refineries.

US urged Ukraine to halt strikes on Russian oil refineries – FT, March 22, 2024

It is also claimed that Russia received intelligence about the cross-border attack two weeks in advance.
Americans now say they shared information about the planned March 9 (March 7 + 48h) terrorist attack with the Russians.
On March 5, 2024, it was announced that Victoria Nuland will retire.
It now seems likely that the cross-border attack by RDK Nazis and the Crocus concert hall attack were part of the same plan. If so, did the Russia receive the advance intelligence about the cross-border attack from Americans?

Posted by: CalDre | Mar 24 2024 0:53 utc | 477:

I find the timing of some things quite interesting.
* Jan. and Feb.: Nuland warns Russia of “nasty” “asymmetric” “surprises”
* Mar. 5: Nuland suddenly leaves her State Dep’t position and retires to Zionist/Bolshevik central: Columbia University
* Mar. 7: US embassy in Moscow issues a terrorism alert (first time in … )
So it’s possible Nuland was plotting this with the CIA and Ukraine but some others in the State Dep’t found out about it and had her terminated (and they couldn’t announce it was “termination” as that would be too suspicious with the subsequent events, but they needed to terminate her for “plausible deniability” if Russia traced the attack back to Nuland). It’s also possible that Nuland or the whistleblowers didn’t know the exact details and that’s why the warning was so generic, and the US genuinely was furious when they found out about her plan, but for some reason didn’t want to publicly denounce her, so that’s a bit more of a stretch (but maybe they just didn’t now more details and thought Russia would never believe that so not admitting she was behind the plot was the best course of action).
Food for thought ….

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 24 2024 1:32 utc | 484:

My thinking exactly. Except it now seems that Nuland was not fired. She is still Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. A few days ago she appeared in Rome in for some G7 meeting.
It is also possible that someone at the State Department decided to inform Moscow of the planned terrorist attack. Nuland objected, but was overruled, so she resigned in protest.
The US now needs to gain the confidence of Moscow to get Russia to agree to the partition plan proposed by ISW a week ago. But one must understand that the US always plays a two-faced game. There are some genuinely “good” people in the State Department, the CIA, and the military, but in the end they always work hand in hand with the neocon spooks.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 24 2024 15:45 utc | 6

Ukraine Weekly Update – 22nd March 2024 (Before Terror attacks). May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-bff

Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Mar 24 2024 16:01 utc | 8

Brautigan@7…..he got the Zionist part right though? Yes? We all know what that means…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 24 2024 16:04 utc | 10

Posted by: canuck | Mar 24 2024 16:03 utc | 9
Guardian says Germany war production peaked in autumn 1944 but Speers wrote it was in January 1945.
Which is it?

Posted by: canuck | Mar 24 2024 16:16 utc | 12

Posted by: Ludo | Mar 24 2024 15:26 utc | 3
CIA did that job.

Posted by: AI | Mar 24 2024 16:21 utc | 14

So this guy inspected the place where he planned to carry out a terrorist attack and had on this occasion a photographer take his picture? Have I got this right?
Posted by: Apollyon | Mar 24 2024 16:09 utc | 11
Well, you are right that’s not the way they do it in the movies-but they have rational scriptwriters; I’m mystified…..if I had to guess I would say Mossad/M6 with a silent nod from rogue Nuland…Israel needs a conflagration…Brits can’t help themselves
That’s my too sense

Posted by: canuck | Mar 24 2024 16:24 utc | 16

Apollyon@11….it’s called a selfie, everyone does it, terrorists can’t?
You seem surprised that terrorists would ‘case’ the joint, that’s SOP for any operation. And they had the ability to move freely without suspicion.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 24 2024 16:29 utc | 18

from the other thread..
Posted by: Gonzo | Mar 24 2024 10:23 utc | 569
The fire has loads of time to spread since no firefighter will enter the building.
<=Maybe but it seems the fire was pre planned, its source hidden and not ignited until the chaos of the shooting occurred? its not about the spread of the fire, but about the source of its ignition and the means of its propagation. The damage in the 9/11 attack resulted from the work of already in place sulfur cutter tools <=tools used in the demolition of tall building.. Acco Hengst | Mar 24 2024 14:14 utc | 634 posted the following Posted by: rk | Mar 24 2024 12:27 utc | 596 most likely the explosion or the thing that started a large fire was already there, placed by another team. Posted by: pq | Mar 24 2024 8:30 utc | 547 The building collapse was not done by these four and most died from the building collapse not the shooting. The four shooters were only in one part of the building for ten minutes and it's a huge building. You would not even be able to get to the roof and back in 10 minutes. maybe the investigation of the source and course of the fire and collapse of the building will identify the persons responsible.. ? Posted by: snake | Mar 24 2024 14:27 utc | 640

Posted by: snake | Mar 24 2024 16:36 utc | 20

So who do you think the real culprits are ?
Posted by: Moonie | Mar 24 2024 16:20 utc | 13
The same people who overthrew the Ukrainian government through the Maidan Massacre.
The same people who harboured wounded ISIS militants in ‘israeli’ hospitals.
The same people who laid the philosophical justification for bombing Libya.
And on it goes …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2024 16:45 utc | 22

This has to be the quote of the day, week, month and year 2024,…
“White House National Security Council Spokesperson Adrienne Watson says: Ukraine is not involved in the terrorist attack in Krasnogorsk, the banned Islamic State is to blame. I wish they could have done it so quickly with the assassination of their own president [John] Kennedy. But no – for more than 60 years they have not been able to find out who killed him after all. Or was it ISIS as well?” Zakharova wrote.

Posted by: AI | Mar 24 2024 16:54 utc | 24

BREAKING: Ukraine’s military intelligence confirms the destruction of two more Russian “Large Landing Ships” – Yamal and Azov. They were both part of the Black Sea Fleet.
Azov & Yamal eh.
What is left of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet anyway?
Are Russia going to do anything about this?
Going by past inaction, no, Russia will not respond in force to further destruction of the Black Sea Fleet (what is left of it).
Why not?
I have no idea. But it’s a strange way to go about winning a war – allowing immense destruction of naval assets by a country without a navy!
Posted by: Julian | Mar 24 2024 13:17 utc | 613
——————————————————————
This was a carry-over from yesterday’s; “Media Snippets Related To The Crocus City Hall Attack.” I think it is important because the subject matter is being used by Ukraine, and the Western media, for propaganda purposes with some effect.
The Black Sea is not conducive for Naval warfare, especially with today’s Sea Drones (both boat drones and underwater drones). The fact is, it has never been a good place for large ships to wage war due to the fact that the Black Sea is basically a large pond with a very narrow very narrow entry and exit.
All ships (Russian and Ukrainian) are sitting ducks in the Black Sea, and there is not much Russia can do about that. Fortunately, the US proxy war in Ukraine is not being fought in the Black Sea, and Russia is winning the war where it is actually taking place: ON LAND and in the air in Ukraine.
Also, the good news is that the Black Sea provides protection from foreign ship invasions as well. There is a Russian movie called: “Battle for Sevastopol” which deals indirectly with the problem with ships in the Black Sea during WWII.
The Ukraine and the Western media use the destruction of the Russian ships and watercraft as a distraction for what is really important news about the war. Julian is proof that the distraction is working.

Posted by: Ed | Mar 24 2024 17:12 utc | 26

About the combined strike of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Sevastopol and Crimea
The very next day after the terrorist attack in Moscow, Ukrainian formations carried out a massive combined attack on the Crimean Peninsula, in which at least 12 tactical aircraft were involved.
Nine aircraft (presumably Su-24M and Su-27) took off from Starokonstantinov, two MiG-29 from the Uman airfield and another Su-27 from Mirgorod. After reaching the line in Zatoka , Novaya Odessa and Snigirevka, Storm Shadow/SCALP, ADM-160 and Neptune missiles were launched.
🔻Sevastopol was subjected to the most large-scale attack. Two missiles tried to hit the warship parking lot. The targets were shot down, but debris fell in the area of the pier in Sevastopol Bay; no serious damage was recorded.
▪️The use of SCALP cruise missiles was noted at the ship repair yard. The warhead of one of the missiles did not fire, and the second hit the pier. There is currently no data on the nature of the damage, but the absence of any smoke may indicate that the fire was quickly localized.
❗️This time the AFU began to strike the civilian infrastructure of Sevastopol. The targets were two apartment buildings and two municipalities. The hits killed one civilian and injured four others.
▪️Two more Storms were used to attack a building previously used by the Black Sea Fleet in the central part of the city. However, it was empty, so apart from physical damage to the infrastructure, there were no casualties.
▪️The same can be said about the Cossack Bay area. Ukrainian channels talked all night about monstrous arrivals, but the rocket fell in a field not far from the special operations forces training ground. There were no casualties.
🔻Black Sea came under attack in the west of Crimea. First, the Ukrainian Armed Forces intended to hit the barracks with four aircraft-type drones. The UAVs flew at an extremely low altitude, but were shot down by air defense crews.
A little later, several Neptune anti-ship missiles were fired from the Odessa region, which were shot down on approach to the Black Sea by Russian Aerospace Forces aircraft.
🔻In the central part of Crimea, Ukrainian formations attacked an oil depot in Gvardeiskoe in the morning with drones flying at an extremely low altitude. Six of them were destroyed by the crew of the Pantsir-S1 air defense missile system of the 31st Air Force and Air Defense Division.
Three more fell on the territory of the energy facility, causing a fire. But the main oil tanks were not damaged, which made it possible to extinguish the fire quickly and without casualties by the Ministry of Emergency Situations.
▪️The enemy also tried to hit the deployment point of the 126th separate guards coastal defense brigade in the Perevalny area with missile weapons. Thanks to air defense units, nine missiles were shot down.
📌 As you can see, the AFU tried to hit several targets at once. This can be clearly seen in the geography of the raid: starting from the west of Crimea and ending with the central part and Sevastopol. In total, over 40 missiles and drones of various types were used.
Once again, the AFU used decoy missiles. Unfortunately, not all targets were intercepted. However, timely measures taken made it possible to reduce the damage from attacks both on the Black Sea Fleet and in other units on the peninsula.
The saddest thing is that civilians were injured in the attack and became the target of a targeted attack by the enemy.
rybar
https://twitter.com/dana916/status/1771898629550227964

Seems damage was minimized this time, fortunately. It’s interesting knowledge that 12 aircraft were used. It’s noticeable AFU always uses its entire air force when trying to hit Crimea.
And also notice AFU air force is basically non-existent in any other part of the front besides Crimea. This indicates that AFU is controlled by influence of people like Boris Johnson and Macron, who have a real fetish on Crimea.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 24 2024 17:14 utc | 28

I was thinking last night about how Netanyahu was becoming an albatross around the neck of the MIC, and could cause them to undergo the discomfort of having to adjust to a somewhat less preferable POTUS, Donald Trump, due to how Muslims, and people with a conscience, in swing states were indicating they couldn’t vote for Genocide Joe Biden.
The MIC is trying to help Biden take down Netanyahu a peg while keeping Israel as an ally, but Netanyahu maintains “October 7!” as a rallying cry that unites Zionists around the globe behind him.
It occurred to me that the atrocity in Crocus is diminishing in the eyes of the easily distracted public the fame/infamy of the loss of Israeli lives on October 7, which was also partly about a gunning down of festival goers, and that now Israel has to share the stage with Russia, it too being a nation mourning a loss of young lives.
But one big difference leaps to mind, and that is the one of Putin, unlike Netanyahu, not ordering his military to retaliate by murdering innocent women and children by the thousands.
Yadda yadda yadda, this comparison would have to be carefully spun out over time by the MIC’s pals in the media in order to undermine Netanyahu, assuming that was desired, but it could be enough to, one way or the other, compel Israel to cooperate with the Biden administration to the extent needed to keep the Biden campaign from hemorrhaging voters who have a shred of decency.
Normally I wouldn’t be so paranoid and cynical to think our deep state would concoct such plans, ones which were about large scale terrorist attacks, but these are far from normal times, and since this war is at its core about the West wanting dominance over the trillions of dollars worth of Russian natural resources, there is easily enough of the kind of motive that sparks horrible things into happening.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 24 2024 17:16 utc | 30

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 24 2024 15:45 utc | 6
You do your claims a massive disservice by needlessly throwing in the word “bolshevik” as if you knew what it meant
Posted by: Brautigan | Mar 24 2024 15:52 utc | 7
Excellent point, Brautigan.
I think this relatively common usage of Bolshevik as a term for Jews, Zionists, Elders of Zion, what have you, here at MOA is attributable to the age of some of the posters. My guess is that those that define Bolshevik in this way we’re young in the early cold war and permanently propagandized by the red scare.
My suggestion is always read Marx, Lenin or Trotsky and show me something to support your concept of Bolshevism. Or even show me some act of the USSR that supports the idea. Clearly, nobody ever does or can do this. They like their little erroneous conceptions of history too much to spoil them with some actual scholarship.
But I wanted to add that this other little bit of the Petri’s post goes a step further to undermining it’s credibility.
“There are some genuinely “good” people in the State Department, the CIA, and the military, but in the end they always work hand in hand with the neocon spooks.”
If the old good cop, bad cop fools you, you just want to be deceived.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 24 2024 17:25 utc | 32

We have come to that, that socialism and capitalism are essentially the same. Both rely on government money (fiat), they just distribute it in two different ways.

Posted by: Catilina | Mar 24 2024 17:34 utc | 34

Fake Flag List for Dummies 101
(warning, must be born or almost born yesterday)
ISIS-K, ISIS-L, ISIS-M, ISIS-N, ISIS-O, ISIS-P, ISIS-Q
George Thorogood’s ‘It Wasn’t Me’ comes to mind.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Mar 24 2024 17:51 utc | 36

Democracy consists in the ability of the governed to defenestrate the governors when they are unhappy with them. Elections are just one approach to that problem.
Things like hereditary elites are just of the opposite of that, whatever name is selected for it.
Thus “workplace democracy”, for example, means the ability of the employees to replace the boss with one they like better, as opposed to things like “at-will employment”.
Democracy does not guarantee good government, nothing does that. What it does offer is some collective redress for mismanagement.

Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 24 2024 18:03 utc | 38

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 24 2024 17:25 utc | 32.
I have a White Sea canal to sell you. Real cheap.

Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Mar 24 2024 18:17 utc | 40

It seems to be a given for most pundits who comment on the SMO that within three months the level of warfare will have escalated dramatically. During that period of time, one that looks to be eventful, I hope some of those pundits put in the time and effort to compare the enlistment levels, and enlistment rates, between Russia and Ukraine. Because if at that “do or die” period of time the Zelenskyy regime still can’t get a lot of the vast numbers of young Ukrainians living abroad to come back home and serve, and nor can it get the hitherto left alone generation of youngest Ukrainians to step up and volunteer, then I think the voters in the West are going to have very hard questions for their leaders, should they start sending more and more of their countries young people in military service to “help out” in Ukraine.
And if those same voters see that Russia’s young people are eagerly gathering around their flag, but Ukrainians have to be beaten about the head and kidnapped into windowless vans as a prelude to getting sent directly to the killing fields at the front, that will be more cause for them to wonder if this is a war whose altar they want to sacrifice their young people upon.
Vietnam 3.0, and President Johnson once noted:

“We are not about to send American boys 9 or 10 thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves.”

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 24 2024 18:22 utc | 42

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 24 2024 18:13 utc | 39
Unless Nato is flying their own planes, there aren’t many air attacks.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 24 2024 18:24 utc | 44

Re: Post by paxmark1 on Mar 24 @ 16:31 # 19

The 39 seconds over Poland might signal that UKR jets including F-16s are fair game for a few kilometers if retreating to Poland.

Someone, perhaps Dima, said many or most anti-air missile defense systems are orientated to the east or direction of suspected incoming and cannot easily be re-orientated. This trajectory was probably used to avoid or attack Patriot system(s) as it came from the west.

Posted by: Quid Me Vexari | Mar 24 2024 18:34 utc | 46

” The same people who overthrew the Ukrainian government through the Maidan Massacre.
The same people who harboured wounded ISIS militants in ‘israeli’ hospitals.
The same people who laid the philosophical justification for bombing Libya.
And on it goes …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2024 16:45 utc | 22 ”
I think we’re talking about the same “special” group, yet people here keep wasting their time speculating whether it was Ukraine, NATO, the US, or ISIS when the obvious ritualistic nature of this event is staring them in the face.

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 24 2024 18:39 utc | 48

Posted by: bored | Mar 24 2024 18:34 utc | 46
Russia is winning the war without the need for help from allies.

Posted by: Siddhartha | Mar 24 2024 18:40 utc | 50

Posted by: bored | Mar 24 2024 18:34 utc | 46
Very dumb agitprop to equate these terrorist attacks to ‘Nato STRONK’.
The only thing they are doing is shelling towns, and bombing malls because that’s the only thing they can do. Himars has 70km range, they can bomb a mall in Belgorod if they want to, which will leak.
You think such terrorist attacks couldn’t be organized in any mall in EU or Ukraine? Think again.
The problem for Russia is, Russia is the only player in the game who cares about their own population. Diaper-Joe and Stoltenburger would get everyone in Britain, Germany or Poland killed and still be able to claim they won. Well, their b#stard clique of oligarchs anyway.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 24 2024 18:41 utc | 52

I read somewhere that the gunmen actually cut off exit points so nobody could escape. Ten minutes is quite a long time for such an incident. There were a few thousand people inside. Could it be that they were waiting for the roof to collapse to maximise deaths? But it didnt so they fled?

Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 24 2024 18:45 utc | 54

Posted by: canuck | Mar 24 2024 16:03 utc | 9
The Graudian is far less reliable than Wikipedia which has also been taken over by many woke authors.
Following a devastating air attack by the Royal Air Force on Peenemünde on 17th August 1943, the V1 and V2 manufacturing and assembly were moved to the Hartz mountains in two huge S-shaped tunnels built by labor from a nearby concentration camp.
[https://www.subbrit.org.uk/sites/nordhausen-v2-factory-and-dora-concentration-camp/%5D

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 24 2024 18:54 utc | 56

vargas @ 35

It is now quite clear that the stories indicatinng the Ukro colapse are just a maskirovka. Ukrainian army is still very very strong and stil highly motivated.

About the combined strike of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Sevastopol and Crimea… Ukrainian formations carried out a massive combined attack on the Crimean Peninsula, in which at least 12 tactical aircraft were involved.
“>https://t.me/two_majors/21131
I think you already stated this and I already replied, but you are correct, maskirovka. No one is running out of anything in the Ukraine or the west, maybe artillery which they thought was an obsolete form of warfare. The maskirovka is to hide the real reason why Ukraine is losing, bad planning, bad leadership, not to mention bad fucking idea from the get go, and to rebrand a losing Ukraine as an underdog and who doesn’t love an underdog, certainly not anyone raised on Hollywood and USA TV shows among the population of the 30 countries supplying and funding this failed spectacular.
What Ukraine is running out of is the heaping ton of Soviet era toys from all over the ex-Warsaw Pact that they broke rather handedly, NATO figured these would be plenty for the quick victory over a cowering, retreating, failed economy Russia. Instead they will now have to give their rich boy toys to the ghetto kids, which I really doubt they will do, they will enter they fray themselves, the rich boys will want to break their own rich boy toys.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 24 2024 18:56 utc | 58

Acco Hengst @ 2

I only trust Wikipedia when it comes to military hardware.

The only thing wikipedia is good for is if you want to look up non controversial stuff like “Angler Fish reproduction”. At least I hope they ain’t making that up too, but as we are in the Matrix they probably are.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 24 2024 19:05 utc | 60

What’s In A Name?
Khorasan is a geographic region and does not specify a distinct terror group. Al Qaeda as leading group has been decapitated of its leaders. The Islamic State also known by its Arabic name Daesh came forth under leadership Abu Al-Baghdadi, ex-detainee US Army in Abu Ghraib torture center.
The veteran Al Qaeda jihadists from Afghanistan are correctly termed IS of Khorasan (ISKP). Too many splinter terror groups exist in the AfPak region.
Tajikistan’s Fight Against Political Islam
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/03/15/tajikistans-fight-against-political-islam
An ex-leader of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), Hafez Saeed Khan, was nominated as the Wali (governor) of the affiliate, which is known as Wilayat Khorasan. Khan became head of a twelve-member shura (committee) consisting of nine Pakistanis, two Afghans, and one person of unknown origin.
The Case of the Islamic Renaissance Party of Tajikistan
https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/cases/case-islamic-renaissance-party-tajikistan/

Posted by: Oui | Mar 24 2024 19:15 utc | 62

US ’kinetic airstrike’ kills al-Qaeda leader in Syria | New Arab – 22 July 2015 |
https://www.newarab.com/news/us-airstrike-kills-al-qaeda-leader-syria
Kuwaiti-born al-Qaeda militant, Muhsin al-Fadhli, has reportedly been killed by a US-led coalition airstrike near the northwestern Syrian town of Sarmada.
Fadhli was allegedly the leader of the Khorasan Group, a group of senior al-Qaeda members who have travelled from Central Asia and elsewhere in the Middle East to Syria to plot attacks on the West.

Most hardened Sunni fighters are holed up in NW Syria in Idlib province.

Posted by: Oui | Mar 24 2024 19:17 utc | 64

If you understand what the word “defenestrate” means, then that would be one other way.
Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 24 2024 19:19 utc | 65
The power of English. Where you can say ‘we celebrated the six month anniversary’ and not sound silly.

Posted by: hopehely | Mar 24 2024 19:33 utc | 66

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8QgXIFzQi0Y
Most excellent indeed. Here here!

Posted by: Jewberg | Mar 24 2024 19:36 utc | 68

FWIW, in a 2009 paper, @BrookingsInst recommended to use terror orgs like the MEK against Iran:
“The US would provide arms, money, training, & organizational assistance”
“CIA could take care of the supplies & training for these groups, as it has for decades all over the world”
A lot more in screenshots at
https://twitter.com/MultipolarPanda/status/1771981152485515486

Posted by: Multipolar Panda | Mar 24 2024 19:42 utc | 70

BREAKING: Ukraine’s military intelligence confirms the destruction of two more Russian “Large Landing Ships” – Yamal and Azov. They were both part of the Black Sea Fleet.
Azov & Yamal eh.
What is left of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet anyway?
Are Russia going to do anything about this?
Going by past inaction, no, Russia will not respond in force to further destruction of the Black Sea Fleet (what is left of it).
Why not?
Posted by: Julian | Mar 24 2024 13:17 utc | 613

Puppets and crayon time.
You know naval experts have been saying for years that surface fleets are obsolete because of anti-shipping missiles and naval drones right?
Tell me what is being used to sink Russian surface fleets in the Black Sea? Anti-shipping missiles and naval drones perhaps?
Sounds to me like the naval experts were right and the ironic part is the naval experts tell us this are first and foremost Russian and Chinese … it’s the Americans who have gone all in on it’s surface navy.
What matters is Russia still controls the Black Sea. They have submarines, shore based anti-shipping batteries and air launched anti-shipping missiles.
I’m pretty sure there are Kilo’s deployed at the mouth of the Bosperous and off Odessa watching everything that moves in or out of the Black Sea.
Losing obsolete landing craft in an era when modern ISR sees everything isn’t a big deal … they’re headed for the scrap heap anyway. Could you imagine the carnage if anyone tried an amphibious assault with big honking landing craft in the days of drone warfare?

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 24 2024 19:54 utc | 72

Satellite photos of Sevastopol port show no damage to ships, damage to one pier. Good news if this is the final word.
New missile strikes apparently in preparation. The Russians are not fooling around.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 24 2024 19:57 utc | 74

If Putin is or does assign blame for the Crocus massacre to Ukraine is there not the risk of him painting himself into a Netanyahu-esque corner, whereby ‘decapitation’ of the principals becomes a ‘necessity’ according to the logic of knowledge in confluence with that of war: i.e. of x nation’s right to defend itself? What does it mean when Russia says that Ukraine was to blame for Crocus, if not the same when Israel says it: namely destruction of Hamas and destruction of its leadership, mutatis mutandis, is this what Putin is threatening? If so, what would China think of this, not to mention the rest of the world? All this strikes me as very concerning indeed.

Posted by: Ludo | Mar 24 2024 20:01 utc | 76

Ziri@75
Venue designed to attract international clientele and be recognizable to them. No problem for Russians either. Just business.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 24 2024 20:04 utc | 78

What does it mean when Russia says that Ukraine was to blame for Crocus, if not the same when Israel says it: namely destruction of Hamas and destruction of its leadership, mutatis mutandis, is this what Putin is threatening?
Posted by: Ludo | Mar 24 2024 20:01 utc | 76

Well hopefully the Russians will take it out on the regime and Ukrainian security sector instead of going on a wild ethnic cleansing campaign against the Ukrainian people.
The Chinese will have a discussion with the Russians about what their strategy will be going forward in light of this attack because China is Russia’s silent partner in this war. Just like Biden, Micron etc. say NATO can’t let Russia win in Ukraine China can’t let Russia lose either. China will make sure Russia gets everything they need to win in Ukraine short of sending soldiers because if Russia loses china’s next.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 24 2024 20:15 utc | 80

october 2002
On the day Chechen terrorists took hostage of 500 civilians in
A Moscow theater, The headline of BBC was not about that but about sharp shooter terrorist being supposedly caught in Washington> In fact theirs Chechnya news was fifth in item(including head line) . These days at last the british media even say about Chechnya terrorist as terrorist otherwise 2 years ago they were always calling them freedom fighters(which they are -but that is another story). In fact the British media and england as a country had been actively supporting and giving material help to Chechnya terrorists aided by CIA and British spy and British media as well).
If you look at the report of British media then you realize the British involvement in terrorism by the Chechnya terrorists. When three multistory flats were wiped pout by terrorist in central Moscow a few years ago there was a glee in british reporting and a criticism of later security arrangemnt by Russian forces in Moscow. of course the British media would have been horrified and barking like a dog(which they are) if the Russians had decided to destroy Chechnya civilians as the Americans did in Afghanistan. Then you realize the humbug of British propaganda against terrorism-it is selective and meant to facilitate British infiltration in other countries, In fact the afganistan govt(after fall of Taliban) was opposed to british troops (after all Americans fought -what have British got to do with that ?)presence in Afghanistan-but arm twisting by british through American help ensures that British troops are there in Afghanistan they are foreign infiltrators and thus should be eliminated(they have less legal reason to be in Afghanistan than the soviets who had been primarily invited by the govt, of the day). the British involvement in international terrorism is not confined to against Russian interest only.
When the kashmiris killed several Indian soldiers(regular phenomenon) the british paper(independent) blamed India for being a target of terrrism and not talking enough with what it called freedom fighters.(terminology changes according to british interts). Infact during the 80s when India was really relatively stable and srtongatlest the govet, was) then the british decided to destabilize India by sponsoring Sikh terrorismand taliban terorism aswell(agasnt INDIA AND AFGANSITAN). It is only when India has virtually been subjugated to look after british and american interst in economics and (with rteal weakening of india as military power) that the british decided to take supprt for terrrism somewhere else.
The whole world is being put under sieze by theis thrird rate power-england-a nation of plumbers(graduation from a nation of pirates turned shopkeepers) The modus operandi of english is by propaganda and spying through british media-paper, bbc and television-they have infiltrated american media and holly wood and are taking jobs from real americans too, They are real enemy of europe and are the main peple respnisnble for truning nations into thrild world and putting them down to status of thrirld world. Look ate how they destryed japansesw economy through manipulative stock market-while their market never crashes and their low life living in factory turned apartmnets-so ugly-never gets busted.
The world has to rise against this anglosaxon who are waging race war agasint all non anglosaxonas -, That evil can be defeated and eliminated -only people have to recognize real enemy and then eliminate them.
It should be noted that Brzezinski was also the main architect of the creation of al-Qaeda itself as far back as the 1970s when he organized, armed, funded, and trained what was then called the Mujahideen in Afghanistan but is now commonly known as al-Qaeda. Ironically, the Taliban was yet another offshoot of the al-Qaeda/Mujahideen network.
Ands that brzeninski is no jew lover but is rabid anglophile just like henry Kissinger-they both work for English scumbags in London.
Thus, the conclusion is obvious. Willingly or not, Downing Street and the White House provoked the guerrillas to these latest attacks [Beslan school massacre in 2004]. Willingly or not, Great Britain and the USA have nurtured the separatists with material, information and diplomatic resources. Willingly or not, the policy of London and Washington fostered the current terrorist acts.” “As the ancients said, cui bono?

Posted by: Sam | Mar 24 2024 20:18 utc | 82

ISIS-KCIA/Mossad
First put IS-K on my bingo card back in the chaotic Fall of Kabul.
Anderson Cooper, that mockingbird marionette, sat buddha silent while “CNN’s Clarissa Ward filed a 7-minute piece on her meeting, in downtown Kabul, amid the chaos, with the head of IS-K.
At the time I paid little attention to the blahblah she was spouting, and mused more about how such a meeting could occur [not really…one CIA asset talking to another].
The piece was long for a news/CNN segment. That Cooper sat still and mostly silent throughout, (not incessantly interjecting and overtalking) meant [imvho] the CIA *really* wanted to communicate something to *someone* [not the vegetative CNN “audience”].
I looked for the piece, but it’s only on FB. So no link from me,
Searching for it, using “CNN + Cooper + Kabul + ISIS-k retuned many pieces, hundreds of hours of content, on ISIS-K.
For me, I don’t need to consume even a millisecond to know IS-K is, like every other terror group, a plaything of dark-art intel agencies.
The U$ is mocking Putin and the FSB when stating “twas ISIS wot dun it”. It’s them gloating. He knows, and they know he knows, who and what “ISIS” is.
Karlof linked to his substack with a pick of Putin who he interpreted as seething. Of course. As an ex-KGB, ex FSB, he knows this was a devastating intelligence failure.
The U$ saying “we warned the Russians”, is them laughing at the intel failure, while needling him that the dark-art agencies perpetrated this.
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The venue had 6000 seats sold out. The fire was intended to incinerate most.
Holocaust means “burnt offering”. How many died in the fire Bombing of Dresden?
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March is a very significant month for rituals of this kind Date 22/3 is also one of those “special” dates.
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If you know, you know. If you don’t. It’s just conspiracy nutjobbery.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 24 2024 20:19 utc | 84

25/04/2015.
english and american spy work to create chechniya terrorism in Russia.
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2009.
Chechnya ’s sitting President Ramzan Kadyrov, who was a teenager during the First Chechen War, believes that the war in Chechnya was masterminded by the West. Western countries, Kadyrov thinks, instigated the war to make the USSR and then Russia collapse.
“It is an open secret nowadays that the Soviet Union fell apart contrary to the will of its people. They decided in the West that they should not stop at that. They wanted to fire up a local war which would embrace more regions and eventually weaken or even destroy Russia as a joint nation,” Kadyrov told journalists December 11,2009 .in Grozny.
ALL terrorism in the past 30 years has come from that one source-anglos epscially its evil head the mastermind england. and its 5 satellites.
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Posted by: SAM | Mar 24 2024 20:23 utc | 86

Russia has to sort out one and only one country England to get rid of pest disease on the earth.
ATHE ENGLISH AND ANGLOS RACE DO NOT AND CAN NOT HAVE 3 THINGS- CULTURE, TASTE
AND BRAVERY. AND THEY HAVE ABUNDANT OF -SPYING POWER, LOW TASTE AND LACK OF
CULTURE. hIGH TIME EVERYONE REALIZES DANGER OF THIS PARASITIC RACE TO WORLD
AND HUMAN SOCIETY. ANGLOS ARE THE BIGGESET PLAGUE ON EARTH.

Posted by: Sam | Mar 24 2024 20:28 utc | 88

Russian options in this war are quite limited. Russia is a mighty bull slowly being killed by a pack of crocodiles.
Posted by: vargas | Mar 24 2024 18:24 utc | 43
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You are very consistent. I’ve been wondering for some time about you. Umbra or penumbra?

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 24 2024 20:41 utc | 90

How is it possible that Ukraine still has so many military airplanes?
Posted by: vargas | Mar 24 2024 20:40 utc | 89
But they dont have “so many military airplanes”.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 24 2024 20:44 utc | 92

the pessimist | Mar 24 2024 20:04 utc | 78
One does not preclude the other. Intelligence agencies do not build malls for their operations they use existing and familiar assets. The point being this attack was used for a psychological purpose, the visuals directed toward the casual American observer and the consequences directed toward the Russian populace. Those facts do not establish the originators but uncover a clear intelligence agency signature.
Robert E.Smith | Mar 24 2024 20:16 utc | 81
HB_Norica | Mar 24 2024 20:22 utc | 85
You are clearly unfamiliar with the signage.
Crocus City Hall

Posted by: Ziri | Mar 24 2024 20:47 utc | 94

Russia is a mighty bull slowly being killed by a pack of crocodiles.
Posted by: vargas | Mar 24 2024 18:24 utc | 43
The pack of crocs are slowly being eliminated Mr Vargas. In fact, some of them willingly cross over and surrender. Meanwhile, the mighty bull replenishes its energy and quickly heals any wounds, whilst moving further and further west, unstoppably.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 24 2024 20:49 utc | 96

Russia struck Ukraine’s largest gas storage facility in Lwow/Stryj. This gas storage was 4x larger than Germany’s largest gas storage facility.
Since 2022, EU used this Stryj gas storage facility to increase their own storage capacity, that is, EU relied on it to act as a buffer to provide gas.
This may have serious consequences for EU for a while in gas prices and increase damage in the economy.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 24 2024 20:51 utc | 98

Posted by: vargas | Mar 24 2024 20:49 utc | 97
No.
It’s simply a propaganda tool.
It’s far more productive to identify a person or a small group as the enemy or the evil to manipulate the mass.
Putin is evil is a simple message, Russians be evil not so.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 24 2024 20:55 utc | 100