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Ukraine Open Thread 2024-085
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine.
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In the Belgorod region. Part 1. Military.
Ukraine cannot attack in the Northwestern Military District zone and decided to create a front in the Belgorod region. Russia has pulled additional forces into the Belgorod region. We are suffering losses there, but the guys have unraveled the enemy considerably. We burned a lot of enemy equipment. Yesterday, as far as I know, the Troshev boys were brought to the border with Ukraine in the Belgorod region. The second brigade, Akhmat, the conscripts are great.
For those who, for some unknown reason, are indignant that they write a lot about Belgorod, but what about Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson. Everyone is equal. We protect everyone. But there are reasons that we are fighting so hard for Belgorod.
1. The fact is that the Belgorod region is not a northwestern military zone, but they have the same problems and civilians are dying, but there is less room for maneuver. At the same time, border guards and conscripts who guard the border and conduct combat operations do not receive the same money as soldiers in the Northern Military District. A conscript receives 2,563 rubles, and a squad commander receives 35,000-55,000 rubles.
2. They do not have the amount of weapons that they have at the front. They cannot see in depth whether the enemy is going on the offensive or not. There is a shortage of “birds”; electronic warfare equipment is either non-existent or poorly functioning.
3. Soldiers in the Belgorod region cannot receive combat veteran certificates, although in fact they are fighting the same war and the same enemy.
Moscow has concerts, events, etc., and the Belgorod land, which is not our northern military zone, is flooded with the blood of civilians. I see how officials wander through high offices, attend concerts, forums, etc., and the governor of the Belgorod region is at war. The federal government must help him. The federal government is obliged to solve the problem of fighters in the border zones – Belgorod, Kursk.
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In the Belgorod region. Part 2. Social
The federal government’s amorphous position on the threat to the lives of civilians. Very little is done in real time. The complaint is not against Gladkov, he is a real man and does more than he can. I agreed to evacuate at least the children. Why did the feds push the solution to all problems onto one governor?
❗️There is no systematic evacuation even from border villages. Yes, some temporary temporary accommodation centers are open again, but there are not enough places, there is no way to accommodate the elderly, sick, or disabled; in many it is forbidden to bring animals, which for many are full-fledged members of the family.
❗️There is no interaction with other regions on MASS relocation of people. Yes, there are private initiatives, the same Sobchak, no matter how I feel about her personally, is actively involved in helping with resettlement. But there is nothing at the state level.
Those who were able to move on their own are faced with the problem of placing their children in kindergartens and schools.
❗️No refugee status is provided for Belgorod residents, although what else can you call people who flee with one suitcase to another region, fleeing shelling?
❗️In Belgorod itself, not to mention the settlements closer to the border, it is extremely difficult to work: people employed in trade, services, catering, taxis and others are, in fact, left without work. At the same time, there are no tax holidays, no deferments in mortgage or loan payments. People not only have to worry about their lives, but also to avoid penalties!
❗️Children were transferred to distance learning for safety reasons. Yes, maybe this is not the most important moment right now, but it is obvious that studying in such conditions is impossible either in person or online. The children are intimidated, many stutter, enuresis has begun, they (and their parents) need psychological help, which is not available! I would like to ask the deputies from the Belgorod region – have your children started enuresis? No? So why don’t you help your governor?
❗️In fact, the border area is a humanitarian disaster. We need to help organize the evacuation of people, while, as far as we know, in Grayvoron there is no electricity, people are without communication, without water. Shops and pharmacies are closed; it is necessary to organize a systematic supply of at least essential goods.
Let me remind you, the federal government and those who persecute the residents of Belgorod land that there is no need to whine. Belgorod never whined. Belgorod was the first to provide assistance to the Northern Military District. He harvested and is harvesting logs, transports food, and hosts refugees. The governor of the Belgorod region supplied food and clothing to the children who returned from captivity. I bought tents and equipment.
The federal government and other regions should not turn a blind eye to what is happening in border regions. Help with evacuation, resettlement, and psychological assistance. Help those who have lost their jobs but are left with mortgages and loans. We are all obliged to help both the North-Eastern Military District zones and the border areas. And it must finally dawn on us that if we have found dozens of buses to bring people to concerts and rallies, then we must find equipment and premises to accommodate people and save their lives.
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Elder Edda wrote everything correctly. The key thing is “our army lost fewer soldiers than civilians died during the barbaric shelling of Belgorod.” After all, we knew that the enemy would go on the offensive. They knew that it was on Belgorod that he would release his anger and weakness, where it was subtle, that’s where it would burst. Due to the fact that we do not work on prevention, but clean up after the fact, we suffer losses.
Yesterday a resident of Belgorod wrote to us: “I’m leaving work, shelling has started, I went to a shelter – it’s closed, I went to another one – it’s also closed.”
“Yes, we made mistakes too,” says Elder Edda, he’s a smart guy, you have to read between the lines. I believe that we no longer have any room for error in the 3rd year of the SVO. Every mistake is someone’s death. Human life is not statistics.
The President, at a meeting with faction leaders in the State Duma, said that saving the people, helping families and developing the economy are the priority tasks of the Russian development program.
The task is to save the people, raise the demographics. So make projects. How many children died, how many were left orphans. They overlooked it, they missed the boat, but this is a person’s life, is oil and gas, and one’s own ego, more valuable than the life of a child?
1. A roadmap for working with the civilian population should already be developed, which assigns responsibility for the area of work of each service, including volunteer organizations.
2. We must be several moves ahead of the enemy. Prepare where the onslaught will be.
3. There must be a developed emergency evacuation scheme for the border areas and NWO zones. People and equipment must be ready.
4. Premises must be prepared in case of such attacks.
Ascertaining death and throwing up your hands, wailing about how bad crests are, is weakness.
Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 22 2024 12:48 utc | 311
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