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March 10, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-075
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 10:50 utc | 401
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 10:50 utc | 402 vargas | Mar 12 2024 10:16 “What is the purpose of the last Ukro offensive (into Russia)?” Posted by: preposterous | Mar 12 2024 11:00 utc | 403
$150M damage if this is correct… Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:00 utc | 404 https://t.me/ramzayiegokomanda/8888
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:03 utc | 405
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:04 utc | 406 I just knew the usual suspect would be shouting doom and gloom this morning, and he is! Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 11:24 utc | 407 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 11:24 utc | 408 Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 11:26 utc | 408 @ Julian, 359: Posted by: John Marks | Mar 12 2024 11:27 utc | 409 Non-stop humiliation all day:
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:28 utc | 410
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:30 utc | 411 He’s starting to sound less as if he’s concerned, and more as if he’s gloating… “You should have listened to me”. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 11:43 utc | 412
care to explain the use of this buzzword? Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 11:48 utc | 413 This shаdοwbanned person demands Putin nuke everyone in sight, but he doesn’t demand that Putin reinstitute FAB bombing in the Berdychi – Semyonovka – Orlovka – Tonenka area (i.e., the area west of Avdeevka; by far the most critical section of the front line). Posted by: preposterous | Mar 12 2024 11:50 utc | 414 https://t.me/treugolniklpr/23604
https://t.me/Mestb_Dobroj_Voli/10468
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 12:08 utc | 415 The difference between Nato and Russia is Nato view the war as a chain of isolated incidents and events. Russia view the war on a holistic level. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 12 2024 12:09 utc | 416 https://t.me/treugolniklpr/23606
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 12:10 utc | 417
all the implications for whatever happens once this is done aside, i do have another question: Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 12:11 utc | 418 Heavy payload drones, unfortunately must be big enough to be easily targeted by AD and damn costly. Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 12:12 utc | 419
Yeah, because cruise missiles are much cheaper than a $30,000 drone? Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 12:16 utc | 420 It’s clearly an orchestrated PR move. After weeks of silence on Ukraine, note that nothing was reported about the ‘devastating’ 😂 attacks on RF rear lines todey, out of the blue, ‘patriots’ entering Russia and ‘conquering’ a village is on the headlines in Italy. Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 12:20 utc | 421 Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 12:11 utc | 419 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 12:20 utc | 422 Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 12:20 utc | 422 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 12 2024 12:26 utc | 423 And the armchair general shows is utterly ignorance. Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 12:44 utc | 424 Re: Shadow at 224 Posted by: JP Straley | Mar 12 2024 12:50 utc | 425
why not? hear me out. im just spitballing now, if thats the correct term. Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 12:51 utc | 426 I’m coming to the conclusion that shadowbanned is some sort of profession troll, let’s put it that way. Sorry guys I was wrong lol. Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 12:59 utc | 427 https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/2624
https://t.me/milinfolive/118059
Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 13:01 utc | 428 I can’t believe some people actually think you are truly a concerned Russian. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 12 2024 13:01 utc | 429 Dima says the Russians were bombing the Ukrainian groups days before they launched the attack on 3 areas on the border. So they knew AFU would attack and where they would probably attack some days before. There was some clashes on the border. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 12 2024 13:17 utc | 430 Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 12:59 utc | 428 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 13:20 utc | 431 Has Kyiv opened a hunt for Russian AWACS? Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 12 2024 13:27 utc | 432 Wonder how many more Ukrainian mice will get killed by the Russian Bear, before the Bear realizes it’s an English Bull Dog pissing all over it. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 12 2024 13:35 utc | 433 There are little misdirections in Shadowbanned’s commentary. Little bits of false logic or false premises which seem small but throw off the conclusions in a way that are hard to catch. Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 13:51 utc | 434 🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦Russia has significantly reduced the time it takes to launch strikes; until recently, the Russian military needed from an hour to six hours to retaliate against the Ukrainian Armed Forces; now this time has been reduced to 1-2 minutes. Posted by: rk | Mar 12 2024 13:55 utc | 435 https://www.rmx.news/article/he-will-kill-us-all-new-head-of-ukrainian-forces-nicknamed-the-butcher-by-his-own-troops/ Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 12 2024 14:01 utc | 436 To everyone bashing shadowbanned as a troll/concern troll; you need to understand he’s just voicing what most Russians themselves are thinking. He even posted links to telegram channels from Russian sources fed up with this slow/soft approach to the war. Posted by: bored | Mar 12 2024 14:07 utc | 437 @436 it’s precisely this Russian improvement in ISR, targeting and precision weapons availability that taken together make the RF a much more formidable force than just 1 year ago. Russia has been launching satellites at a pretty steady clip, it’s starting to add up, and while it’s still not remotely close to American satellite capacity, it is a giant step up from what was there in 2022 and I think starting to get to the point were real time attacks can me made far more efficiently than before. Here in 2024 we have the coming together of much greater glide bomb availability, ramping up of geran drones, increased missile production, together with the ISR capabilities to lob them at real targets instead of just empty farmhouses. Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:09 utc | 438 @438 it’s what SB says and doesn’t say that makes me think he is a troll. Being a doomer in Russia is normal (although still a minority position), but studiously ignoring inconvenient questions and points while hammering away at a very repetitive message is odd. Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:16 utc | 439 @438 it’s what SB says and doesn’t say that makes me think he is a troll. Being a doomer in Russia is normal (although still a minority position), but studiously ignoring inconvenient questions and points while hammering away at a very repetitive message is odd. Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:17 utc | 440 Posted by: bored | Mar 12 2024 14:07 utc | 438 Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 14:18 utc | 441 @ rk | Mar 12 2024 13:55 utc | 436 Posted by: boneless | Mar 12 2024 14:24 utc | 442 it’s still not remotely close to American satellite capacity Posted by: rk | Mar 12 2024 14:29 utc | 443
Which brings the obvious question of what exactly would happen if a really serious attack were to happen, i.e. if missiles are flying towards Moscow? How fast will the reaction be if it took full 60 hours to respond to e.g. the Kerch bridge bombing?
My position is in large part a consequence of what the mood inside Russia is. I was extremely enthusiastic about things in the first few weeks two years ago. But that was based on quite unrealistic information about what was going on. And then we know what happened after the first month… Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 14:32 utc | 444
And to make it even more painful, those were all years after it had become unequivocally clear that there will be a direct clash between the superpowers in the future… Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 14:46 utc | 445 https://t.me/treugolniklpr/23642
As usual, how is this stuff only being hit now??? Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 14:49 utc | 446 If anyone ever wondered what synchronised trolling looked like. Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 12 2024 14:50 utc | 447 I’m happy to contribute twice a year. But…the troll situation here has become dire. Today alone SB has posted over and over again. Long posts, as is usual. I scroll through and finally give up and go feed the chickens or wash dishes. I doubt that many come here, or contribute, in order to read the same follderoll from SB and his co-conspritors. Not that long ago such commentors were banned… Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Mar 12 2024 14:50 utc | 448 @446 25 years ago in 1999, Russia was bankrupt and collapsed, a shadow of its former self. The largest country by land area in the world imported a huge chunk of its food, a full-spectrum superpower 10 years previous now had a life expectancy shorter than most African countries, and a mad max economy based on a few bandits looting the remains of Soviet natural resource investments. 25 years is not a long time. I was alive in 1999, it feels almost like yesterday. Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:58 utc | 449 As usual, how is this stuff only being hit now??? Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 12 2024 14:58 utc | 450 Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:58 utc | 450 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 15:52 utc | 453 Loong time lurker here, just prairiedogging to say how much I love reading this Shadowbanned forum. Posted by: Prairiedog | Mar 12 2024 15:55 utc | 454 This shadowbanned person demands Putin nuke everyone in sight, but he doesn’t demand that Putin reinstitute FAB bombing in the Berdychi – Semyonovka – Orlovka – Tonenka area (i.e., the area west of Avdeevka; by far the most critical section of the front line). Posted by: preposterous | Mar 12 2024 16:01 utc | 455 Does Russia still have/use Tocka M missile? Posted by: rk | Mar 12 2024 16:02 utc | 456 Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:58 utc | 450 Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 16:03 utc | 457 (@ rk ) I would like you to find and provide the link to the exact post, please. Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 16:07 utc | 458 Western launches kept the Russian space program alive, it still is one area where Russia did not yet come close to recovering completely Posted by: rk | Mar 12 2024 16:10 utc | 459 @460 this is from a quick google search: Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 16:21 utc | 460 so this new little gem from the unelected eu authorities:
i want you all to remember this one little nugget from germans history: Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 16:21 utc | 461 Dear B could you please rename this thread “Pro et contra SB” because 48% of it is BS by SB and 47% is commenting BS so very little left, extremely difficult to get anything real about Ukraine in here now Posted by: Avtonom | Mar 12 2024 16:23 utc | 462 Posted by: Avtonom | Mar 12 2024 16:23 utc | 463 Posted by: Mexicana | Mar 12 2024 16:27 utc | 463 Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 16:21 utc | 462 Posted by: Avtonom | Mar 12 2024 16:27 utc | 464 i just want to add to my 462, that the state (eu) is supposed to be serving the people.
first on a per nation basis, but we all know that this will become a eu basis if certain countries dont “behave” according to brussels values. Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 16:28 utc | 465 I’m for free speech. Even when, or if, people do not agree with me. Posted by: g wiltek | Mar 12 2024 16:30 utc | 466 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/12/world/europe/ukraine-drone-russia-jamming.html Posted by: mjh | Mar 12 2024 16:35 utc | 467 The reason I come here is to get away from the mass media echo chamber, to not be told what to think. All these posts against shadowbanned make me sick to my stomach and I just give up, I’m going outside to feed my chickens and do other wholesome rural things. I believe that anyone should be able to say what they want, even paid trolls trying to influence the narrative. Posted by: Rural Kentuckian | Mar 12 2024 16:54 utc | 468 My position is in large part a consequence of what the mood inside Russia is. I was extremely enthusiastic about things in the first few weeks two years ago. But that was based on quite unrealistic information about what was going on. And then we know what happened after the first month… Posted by: Moscow | Mar 12 2024 16:55 utc | 469 Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 12 2024 13:01 utc | 430 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 12 2024 17:19 utc | 470 Details on cross border drone attacks.
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 12 2024 17:20 utc | 471 Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 16:28 utc | 466 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 12 2024 18:12 utc | 472 i would like to remind you first of all how the extreme right walked into the deutsche bank. Posted by: asyme | Mar 12 2024 18:51 utc | 473 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 18:09 “Has anyone answered the earlier question as to why FAB attacks west of Adviivka seem to have been suspended?” Posted by: preposterous | Mar 12 2024 19:31 utc | 474 https://www.rt.com/russia/594081-ukraine-wsj-zelensky-west/
Nah, another lie. Posted by: Poslan1 | Mar 13 2024 2:05 utc | 476 Lev Davidovich | Mar 12 2024 14:50 utc | 448 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 13 2024 11:58 utc | 477 |
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