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March 10, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-075

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https://t.me/dva_majors/36447

Ivanovo region :
Footage of a falling Il-76 at the Ivanovo-Severny military airfield.
The information is being clarified with the military pilots.

https://t.me/dva_majors/36452

Ivanovo region, footage of the Il-76 crash:
Filmed two kilometers from the Northern airfield, which the plane did not reach.
While taking off from the Severny airfield, its engine caught fire. The crew attempted to make an emergency landing back on the runway, but were unable to do so.
They write that there were 12 people on board – 7 crew members and 5 passengers.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 10:50 utc | 401

https://t.me/dva_majors/36453

Belgorod region, governor:
Updated information at the moment about the consequences of the shelling of the city of Shebekino:

Unfortunately, the number of victims has increased to three people. A local resident turned to the Central District Hospital on her own – the woman had shrapnel wounds to her face and a concussion. An ambulance transports the wounded woman to the regional hospital in Belgorod. All necessary medical care is provided.

Various damages were detected in 21 private households and 8 apartment buildings. Mostly these are cut facades and broken windows. The buildings of the district hospital, a store, a kindergarten, a technical school, and one of the enterprises were also damaged. 12 cars were also damaged. The door-to-door tour continues.
⭐️The Nazis are firing MLRS at civilians. There can be no excuses.
Ukraine must be destroyed as an anti-human state

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 10:50 utc | 402

vargas | Mar 12 2024 10:16 “What is the purpose of the last Ukro offensive (into Russia)?”
To get the Russians to attempt to “create a buffer zone” to protect Belgorod.
Why do they want this?

Because they have spent a couple of years preparing for such a Russian attack and they feel they will give the Russians a bloody nose.
But most importantly it will divert Russian attention away west of Avdeevka and give them time to build defenses where there are currently almost no defenses.
I’m not sure if the Russians are stupid enough to fall for this.
They should remember that there are currently almost no defenses west of Avdeevka and the Ukrainians are absolutely desperate.

Posted by: preposterous | Mar 12 2024 11:00 utc | 403

https://t.me/zimovskyAL/29674

Rumored and authoritative.
About the question price. It is obvious that attacks on high-tech strategic infrastructure facilities of the Russian Federation will continue (see Kstovo).
But we have nothing to respond symmetrically – the Ukrainians simply do not have such facilities. Everything there was stolen and destroyed long before the Northern Military District of the Russian Federation in U.
The only assets were metallurgy/coal of Donbass/heavy and aircraft engine manufacturing and agricultural production on black soil. Well, transit, aka a pipe. The pipe, in fact, is ours, no one will hit it.
Everything else was not even close to the same Nizhegorodnefteorgsintez. There, the ELOU-AVT-6 installation alone, which is now on fire, cost ( in 2017 prices ) 14 billion rubles .
And after such drone raids we will be
a) offended;
b) expensive;
c) well, okay.
All that remains is to chase after the Ukrainian drone craftsmen, like the Pindos in Vietnam after a bicycle factory in the jungle.
Or still solve the issue with one blow. Or two.

$150M damage if this is correct…

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:00 utc | 404

https://t.me/ramzayiegokomanda/8888

Expected, predicted ! Back in the fall of 2022, we wrote that the Ukrainian Armed Forces would rely on attacks on our infrastructure with the help of UAVs, literally two weeks ago we wrote that today, in the context of a worsening situation at the front, the build-up of UAV strikes will become the very thing announced by the Americans “surprise” for the Russians. They have written dozens of times about what needs to be opposed to this strategy. And we can only repeat it all again:
🇷🇺😍😁😅💥We have written about the problems of our air defense many times , but the situation does not yet tend to improve. Yes, we are constantly increasing our air defense forces. The military-industrial complex is transferring new air defense systems, radars, and fighters to the troops, but the enemy is also constantly increasing its air attack weapons. First of all, the number and nomenclature of UAVs. As a result, there are regular breakthroughs of Ukrainian drones to their targets. Basically, to the most “presentational” – fuel and energy facilities, hits on which cause large-scale fires, or indiscriminate attacks on cities in the depths of our territory, in order to demonstrate our ability to “reach” them. The military-economic damage from such attacks is negligible, but the psychological and propaganda damage, according to the enemy, is quite sufficient. Already today, the enemy is launching from 30 to 50 UAVs every day at targets on our territory, and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand that the number of such attacks will only continue to grow!
It is obvious that the need for a serious reform of the Aerospace Forces has long been overdue, with the separation of air defense troops from them as a separate type of armed forces and transferring to them the responsibility for protecting Russian territory from attacks by enemy air attack weapons. This is at the organizational level. And at the level of technological solutions, it is necessary, finally, to begin creating continuous radar lines in the border zone based on aerostat systems that could cover the entire range of heights, and above all, cover extremely low altitudes and terrain folds: river valleys, lowlands, which today the main routes of Ukrainian UAVs are being laid. For ground-based radars, it is not possible to plug all such “holes”, since the number of such ones will need to be increased by at least an order of magnitude. However, exactly the same radars, but on balloons, are capable of increasing by an order of magnitude the combat capabilities of radio-technical troops for the early detection of such targets, which is critical for their successful interception.
We also need the fastest delivery to the troops of “light” modules for existing air defense systems, modules “tailored” for intercepting UAVs and MLRS-type targets, similar to the Israeli “iron dome” system, increasing the combat capabilities of our air defense systems, such as “Pantsir” or “ TOR”. Now such modernization has been carried out, and the troops are receiving new Pantsir-SM air defense systems with 8 compact missile defense modules to combat UAVs and especially kamikaze drones. But the problem, again, is organizational – “Pantsir” is a military air defense air defense system, it has both the task of covering troops in the front line and fighting “distant” UAVs, but often it is not possible to combine this together, which allows the enemy to find “holes” in our radar control system.
We know that tests of the first domestic aerostat systems are now in full swing,Moreover, even our closest neighbors are already actively solving this problem! And finally, the time has come for serious organizational decisions! We have again formed two entire military districts – a response to the military threat from the West. The air threat, in turn, also requires us to recreate the country’s air defense forces!

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:03 utc | 405

https://t.me/zimovskyAL/29667

Rumored and authoritative.
The Swedes and Americans practiced the landing of sabotage reconnaissance groups in the Arctic.
The mother ship, the American landing floating dock Gunston Hall, took on board a pair of Swedish CB90 small landing boats and delivered them to the DRG drop zone.
The boats are armed with three Browning M2HB machine guns, one Mk 19 grenade launcher and a Hellfire missile launch system. The boats carry a landing platoon (21 soldiers)
and can lay sea mines (4×2.8 tons) or carry six depth charges.
The boats are equipped with an advanced combat control system and surveillance sensors, ballistic protection, as well as a Trackfire remote weapon station. Water jet propulsion, speed up to 25 knots, range 440 km

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:04 utc | 406

I just knew the usual suspect would be shouting doom and gloom this morning, and he is!
He still can’t explain why, rather than offering his ideas to the Russian Government and/or Armed Forces, he offers them to us, who are utterly incapable of influencing Russian military policy.
Still, I’m sure he has his reasons. I wonder what the weather’s like at Little Hungerford?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 11:24 utc | 407

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 11:24 utc | 408
Suggests that all is not well in Ukrainian paradise.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 11:26 utc | 408

@ Julian, 359:
I´m sure they´re interested and equally sure they´re capable – and it also obviates any need for a risky Dnieper crossing.
It hasn´t happened to date because the Russians have concentrated on the Crimea and Donbass.
If NATO and their puppet YouCrane continue this, the strike south from Belarus becomes worthwhile – and easily executed as shown at the beginning of the SMO. This gains some urgency as there is talk of the Americans putting NATO troops at least into the Bujak, threatening Odessa. It also severely aggravates Kiev´s logistics if communications from Galicia and Bessarabia are cut.
Xarkov would be more a PR victory and readily achievable. It is an entirely Russian city and the biggest after Kiev.
If nothing else, liberation of Xarkov and Odessa would dent the ardour of the venal US/UK/EU NeoCons from sinking more money into the YouCrane black hole.

Posted by: John Marks | Mar 12 2024 11:27 utc | 409

Non-stop humiliation all day:
https://t.me/dva_majors/36459

Belgorod region
UAV of the Ukrainian Armed Forces attacked the Belgorod administration building

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:28 utc | 410

https://t.me/vvgladkov/5520

In Belgorod, an enemy UAV crashed into the city administration building. There are two victims: one woman received shrapnel wounds, the second a concussion. The victims are provided with all necessary medical care. As a result of the explosion, windows in the building were broken and the façade was damaged. All emergency services are on site.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:30 utc | 411

He’s starting to sound less as if he’s concerned, and more as if he’s gloating… “You should have listened to me”.
Aren’t you going to mention that an IL76 crashed today?
I’m no military man, but if he was in charge we’d be burning all our supplies “to deny them to the enemy, as all is lost”.
Still, the Guardian is bigging up Zelensky “we have stopped the post Adviivka retreat”.
Last night at least two Polish Government planes were heading for the States – anyone know what the talks are about? The Guardian isn’t mentioning them.
(At the same time a Brit Tornado was over Jerusalem, closely followed by an RAF tanker)

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 11:43 utc | 412

Non-stop humiliation all day
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 11:28 utc | 411

care to explain the use of this buzzword?

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 11:48 utc | 413

This shаdοwbanned person demands Putin nuke everyone in sight, but he doesn’t demand that Putin reinstitute FAB bombing in the Berdychi – Semyonovka – Orlovka – Tonenka area (i.e., the area west of Avdeevka; by far the most critical section of the front line).
Why do you think that might be?

Posted by: preposterous | Mar 12 2024 11:50 utc | 414

https://t.me/treugolniklpr/23604

We are all waiting for the command to turn the north of the Kharkov and Sumy regions into a scorched desert.
We really hope that the Supreme’s patience will run out.

https://t.me/Mestb_Dobroj_Voli/10468

Isn’t it time to fuck around Kyiv today? And then every day for the next 10 days. In honor of the elections. crests want a picture for the elections. There are military targets there, mom, don’t worry.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 12:08 utc | 415

The difference between Nato and Russia is Nato view the war as a chain of isolated incidents and events. Russia view the war on a holistic level.
That means that Nato wants to ‘use Nato equipment to invade Russia’. So they piled up a separate ‘invasion’ in the north, half of which was already wiped out the first day it was spotted, and the other portion of the attack involving some drone attacks hitting an oil refinery and pre-made videos of AFU/Nato forces being in Kursk and taking over villages. The stuff they piled to ‘invade’ Belgorod was stuff that was not available at Avdeevka or the south.
So Nato just shrugged off the defeats west of Avdeevka, losing a pile of Patriot PAC systems, radars and 4 Abrams tanks and went to plan another operation.
Eventually the holistic view of war will prevail, not the isolated set of events. The holistic view understands that the defeat of AFU in Avdeevka will significantly reduce the potential threat AFU can pose anywhere else, including Belgorod.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 12 2024 12:09 utc | 416

https://t.me/treugolniklpr/23606

Everything that is happening is a consequence of the virtual absence of comprehensive attacks on the enemy’s rear.
Now the reserves will come out in Kramatorsk and we will play “soldiers” with them at the LBS.
Where are the attacks on accumulations and storage areas of equipment?
Not one or two a day, but 50-100!

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 12:10 utc | 417

EU to start sending Russian money to Ukraine this summer – FT
A first tranche of over $3 billion could be disbursed in July, the outlet has learned

all the implications for whatever happens once this is done aside, i do have another question:
what exactly do they think with this? lets just say ukraine loses completely (or even partially), and the eu refuses to pay back all this stolen (thats exactly what it is, no amount of western legalistic wordplays can change this) money, then what?
russia demands its stuff back, eu refuses. now the eu has either:
a. a completely hostile nation on their borders that will do everything to mess them up
b. russia simply ignores them once they are neutered and the eu starts to wither away
c. the eu continues to prod the russians in whatever way possible
they simply cannot back down anymore. for the eu/nato/west, they HAVE to destroy/defeat russia, or else their house of cards starts tumbling. this is going to escalate beyond what we have seen so far, simply because the eu/west are doing everything to burn any bridges left.
its a zero sum game for them im afraid.
and because they are doing this, im going to say that london/brussels have to go.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 12:11 utc | 418

Heavy payload drones, unfortunately must be big enough to be easily targeted by AD and damn costly.
Only an armchair general with limited if any knowledge of phisics and economics can dream of them being used as suicide drones.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 12:12 utc | 419

Heavy payload drones, unfortunately must be big enough to be easily targeted by AD and damn costly.
Only an armchair general with limited if any knowledge of phisics and economics can dream of them being used as suicide drones.
Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 12:12 utc | 420

Yeah, because cruise missiles are much cheaper than a $30,000 drone?
And the Russians have not been using thousands of Shaheds for the last 18 months?
You can put nukes on the Shahed, always keep that in mind, as well as on many other similarly sized and larger UAVs. Thus these should be treated as if they are cruise missiles, with all that follows in terms of protocol.
Because if you don’t, one day you will get a salvo of 300 of these and they will carry special warheads. And you won’t launch the second strike on time.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 12:16 utc | 420

It’s clearly an orchestrated PR move. After weeks of silence on Ukraine, note that nothing was reported about the ‘devastating’ 😂 attacks on RF rear lines todey, out of the blue, ‘patriots’ entering Russia and ‘conquering’ a village is on the headlines in Italy.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 12:20 utc | 421

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 12:11 utc | 419
“im going to say that london/brussels have to go.”
We all feel like that sometimes, but let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 12:20 utc | 422

Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 12:20 utc | 422
This is pretty much a repeat of events in April-May 2023. That was made when Bakhmut was about to fall. This one is made imminently after the AFU counter attacks west of Avdeevka in Berdychi line were repelled, and could have been a fatal mistake.
Now, like then, they created and distributed a set of pre-videos of an ‘invasion’ taking over villages which they actually didn’t take over.
They dropped off some infantry, and the hard core nazis who made the videos pretending to be a ‘liberation army’ withdrew back to Kharkov or Kiev, leaving the bulk of the territorial defense force stranded in the border areas. The ‘invasion’ was over within a week and was soon forgotten.
That said, this one had some drone attacks and Vampire MLRS integrated into it.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 12 2024 12:26 utc | 423

And the armchair general shows is utterly ignorance.
He pretends that a 30000 usd drone is a heavy payload drone.
Just as a reference, the reaper is indeed a heavy payload drone that carry 1600 kg, the weight of a heavy bomb used by lutwaffe in WWII.
Unfortunately it costs 32 millions usd, not 30000.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 12:44 utc | 424

Re: Shadow at 224
Mini nukes use their fuel efficiently, there si less prompt and residual radiation. Always look for a Wilson cloud and bright flash. Partial duds have materials still reacting so the fireball glows bright. Not so chemical explosives. For good analysis see material by Dr Bruce Baird.

Posted by: JP Straley | Mar 12 2024 12:50 utc | 425

let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 12:20 utc | 423

why not? hear me out. im just spitballing now, if thats the correct term.
both brussels and london are constantly escalating in all possible avenues. they dont care about the lifes lost, as they consider the “ukrainians” also just as low as the russians. both are slavs. they are also currently still occupying serbia (also slavs) in kosovo, and recently built another nato base in albania. all to keep the slavs down or to kill them in the future “if we dont behave” (remember how us always used the “behave” word when they didnt like other nations refusing to follow suite).
this is simply genocide by other means. over a long enough timeline, the outcome will be the same.
see how they (longon/brussels/washington) do everything possible to let the israeli genocide in palestina happen?
they simply DO NOT CARE about the loss of human life.
all this with the constant rumor of this “agenda 2030” or whatever, where its openly talked about reducing the human population etcpp.
they are doing exactly this. they simply opt to kill all those people that “dont behave” in any way possible.
and they dont give a rats behind what anybody things, says, or does.
south africas appeal at the ICJ? dont care.
russias appeals for 8 years before the SMO? dont care.
chinas appeal with regards to the province of taiwan? do. not. care.
they slowly build infrastructure in countries that they coerce/bribe, and its all to strangle those that “dont behave” slowly. im not with shadowbanneds nuclear bravado, but at some point this western instigated genocides have to stop, one way or another.
while i applaud russia for chosing the high road and erradicating the threat in the ukraine, the west is slowly escalating at all other possible avenue. military buildups in poland, baltics, finnland, sweden etc. moldova seems to be the next thing. albanias new nato base. serbia beeing slowly drained. new sanctions on anybody that even dares to have economic ties with russia. austrias raiffeisenbank now next on their list. after that india and china. and the list goes on.
and all of this is possible because all those nations do not dare to put a foot down and say “can you please stop?”. no. the west is going to escalate this until the inevitable outcome of either “us, or them”.
and honestly, i am completely sick of it. especially so since the west dares to speak of all those “values” and “rules” and making themself look better, when in reality they are the barbarians at the gates of others. they are the autocrats, the dictators, the fascists.
they are the terrorists.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 12:51 utc | 426

I’m coming to the conclusion that shadowbanned is some sort of profession troll, let’s put it that way. Sorry guys I was wrong lol.
The thing is despite likely hundreds of questions about his motivation, why spend so much time and energy and intelligence on a forum of anglosphere grandpas with zero influence on the war’s outcome? Look, there are a lot of weird people out there and internet commentators tend to be among them, on any subject. But after dozens of questions of what do you hope to achieve, why are you wasting so much time criticizing Russian policy on a site that has 0.000 influence on that policy, he just brushes them off and goes back to a very repetitive script so to speak.
My new guess is there are a limited number of pro-Z outlets in English, there’s twitter/X but NAFO has that covered. The other pro-Z blogs tend to be very proactive about removing anti-Z commentary. So this might be a very lame attempt to influence the narrative, seeing readers of this blog as some sort of thought leaders on Ukraine issues for the American right. If you could move the needle a little to demoralize Russia-sympathizers in the Republican Party, you could more easily get funding passed etc. What better way to demoralize pro-Z than proving that Putin is a pussy or even traitor who doesn’t care at all about Russian civilian losses, humiliating attacks on infrastructure, city centers, etc.
I mean this whole strategy would be ridiculous because readers of this blog are not thought leaders, and republican opposition to more funding for Ukraine comes from a different place that ra-ra pro-Z English speakers. It’s more anti-Biden and fiscally responsible regarding a lost cause etc. But it’s not a big waste of resources to have 1 or 2 British academics post things while making sure they use neutral American spelling

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 12:59 utc | 427

https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/2624

🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦Russia has significantly reduced the time it takes to launch strikes; until recently, the Russian military needed from an hour to six hours to retaliate against the Ukrainian Armed Forces; now this time has been reduced to 1-2 minutes.
“They, apparently, built a modern reconnaissance and strike complex, connected it all within the framework of a network-centric war, and as soon as they received intelligence data, the information immediately went up, and they immediately entered a flight mission, and it immediately arrived. That is, a minute or two or three passed.”
— ex-Colonel of the SBU Starikov
WELDERS

https://t.me/milinfolive/118059

Has Kyiv opened a hunt for Russian AWACS?
UAV attack on the territory of the Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex (TANTK) named after. Beriev became the third incident in the last two months involving A-50U long-range radar detection (AWACS) aircraft. First, information appeared that an aircraft of this type had been shot down over the Sea of Azov. Then a similar situation happened in the Krasnodar region. Naturally, there was no official confirmation from the Russian Ministry of Defense, however, based on the available objective information, we can talk about the losses of two A-50Us.
And now – a blow to the place of production, repair and modernization of Russian AWACS. According to various estimates, up to forty units took part in the attack. The Russian Ministry of Defense reported that Russian air defense shot down 47 drones that night (the attack was not limited to Taganrog). The governor of the Rostov region, Golubev, said that the consequences of the attack were being clarified.
Until the end of February, there was one A-50U in the parking lot of Taganrog-Yuzhny airport (it serves TANTK) – presumably an aircraft with reg. that was damaged a year ago during an attack in Belarus. number RF-50608. Judging by satellite images, he was no longer there at the time of the attack. One of two things: either they only got around to repairing the damaged aircraft now, or the repairs have already been completed, and the A-50U has left for its home base.
With a high degree of probability, TANTK now has another A-50 undergoing modernization to the A-50U level. The previous “ear” was delivered to the Air Force in September last year. In addition, the A-100, a new generation flying radar system, is undergoing factory testing there.
In any case, the chain of events suggests that the Ukrainian command decided to “clear the sky” against Russian AWACS aircraft. This may be due to Kyiv’s plans to more actively use Storm Shadow and Scalp missiles launched from the Su-24M, because the presence of the A-50U in the air increases the chance of a successful attack by Russian fighters on Ukrainian carriers and interception of incoming missiles.
Alexey Zakharov,
aviation expert
#expertVO

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 13:01 utc | 428

I can’t believe some people actually think you are truly a concerned Russian.
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 12 2024 5:29 utc | 349
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SB seems to be a collective of MI6 sponsored ‘social media influencers.’
Jane, as one of the MoA barflies would be the best source for analysis, but to me it is clear from the selection of topics, style of writing and the wide coverage and extensive detail that multiple personalities are at work. I remember a very shrill SB a while back. We are currently witnessing mature fifty-year olds with a measured, low key approach.
I see no reason for responding to them.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 12 2024 13:01 utc | 429

Dima says the Russians were bombing the Ukrainian groups days before they launched the attack on 3 areas on the border. So they knew AFU would attack and where they would probably attack some days before. There was some clashes on the border.
Dima said the most likely purpose is to shift attention away from Novomikhalovka which is about to fall, and Krasnogorovka which seems to be compressed ever tighter. Also Nevelske just north-east of Krasnogorovka.
Budanov also said they have some operation in Crimea, Dima suggests it means they will again try to land troops in Kinburn Spit.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 12 2024 13:17 utc | 430

Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 12:59 utc | 428
“why spend so much time and energy and intelligence on a forum of anglosphere grandpas with zero influence on the war’s outcome?”
My thoughts exactly. It’s a question several people have asked, and he can’t/won’t answer.
He’s obviously intelligent and well informed. But we DO have a tiny bit of influence – on the western side we are one of the few pro-Russian (or at least benevolent neutrals) sites around. If you want “full spectrum dominance in the information space” this place is a target.
At the moment he’s just clogging up the threads with stuff we could read in the Guardian or Mail…

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 13:20 utc | 431

Has Kyiv opened a hunt for Russian AWACS?
Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 13:01 utc | 429
Of course they have … it would be newsworthy if they weren’t targeting AWACs.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 12 2024 13:27 utc | 432

Wonder how many more Ukrainian mice will get killed by the Russian Bear, before the Bear realizes it’s an English Bull Dog pissing all over it.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 12 2024 13:35 utc | 433

There are little misdirections in Shadowbanned’s commentary. Little bits of false logic or false premises which seem small but throw off the conclusions in a way that are hard to catch.
Like it took the Soviet Union decades to recover from German strategic bombing, therefore Ukrainian suicide drones today are mortal threat to Russia, the country is on the verge of losing. Lol the Soviet Union was leagues ahead as an industrial power in 1960 compared to 1941. It didn’t recover, it surged ahead in all industrial production. It was sending men into space while a few decades before it was widely thought of as a technological laggard. Not in the same conversation as the leading powers.
Or the comment that Russian missiles destroyed the Ukrainian MIC, therefore the same will happen imminently to the Russian MIC. Yet Ukraine today produces more weapons than it did before the war. Here is a country a very small fraction the size of Russia with an industrial base an even smaller fraction of Russia on the eve of the war, conveniently with all its industrial facilities within easy reach of Russia, Russia fired off literally thousands of heavy missiles and thousands of heavy drones, yet Ukraine is producing more than ever. So it clearly doesn’t follow that Russia with its much bigger territory, much larger industrial capacity, and much better missile defense will be reduced to Syria as SB has said. Modern states are very very large, incomprehensibly large with incomprehensible human resources and ability to regenerate. They are extremely hard to significantly impact. Really only blockades work (Germany in WW1, Japan in WW2).
There are a bunch of these seemingly small factual errors, that could me made in good faith, but which throw off the conclusions completely. The thing is when these errors are pointed out, they are just ignored. “Don’t answer, don’t engage inconvenient questions. Stick with these points” – kind of thing

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 13:51 utc | 434

🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦Russia has significantly reduced the time it takes to launch strikes; until recently, the Russian military needed from an hour to six hours to retaliate against the Ukrainian Armed Forces; now this time has been reduced to 1-2 minutes.
“They, apparently, built a modern reconnaissance and strike complex, connected it all within the framework of a network-centric war, and as soon as they received intelligence data, the information immediately went up, and they immediately entered a flight mission, and it immediately arrived. That is, a minute or two or three passed.”
Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 13:01 utc | 429
What is funny is that the so-called Russian channel Rybar wrote on TG about a month ago that Russia is so bureaucratic that it takes many days before any retaliation takes place, paperwork has to be done. He wrote Ukr helicopters and planes bomb freely anything they want then return and no one shoots at them because orders are not received in time. Lovely people these bloggers

Posted by: rk | Mar 12 2024 13:55 utc | 435

https://www.rmx.news/article/he-will-kill-us-all-new-head-of-ukrainian-forces-nicknamed-the-butcher-by-his-own-troops/
I wonder if anyone would point a gun in his direction. Nope, didn’t think so. And the march to demographic extinction continues.

Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 12 2024 14:01 utc | 436

To everyone bashing shadowbanned as a troll/concern troll; you need to understand he’s just voicing what most Russians themselves are thinking. He even posted links to telegram channels from Russian sources fed up with this slow/soft approach to the war.

Posted by: bored | Mar 12 2024 14:07 utc | 437

@436 it’s precisely this Russian improvement in ISR, targeting and precision weapons availability that taken together make the RF a much more formidable force than just 1 year ago. Russia has been launching satellites at a pretty steady clip, it’s starting to add up, and while it’s still not remotely close to American satellite capacity, it is a giant step up from what was there in 2022 and I think starting to get to the point were real time attacks can me made far more efficiently than before. Here in 2024 we have the coming together of much greater glide bomb availability, ramping up of geran drones, increased missile production, together with the ISR capabilities to lob them at real targets instead of just empty farmhouses.
The Soviet Union always relied on human intelligence, they were always weak in the technology of spying. Finally Russia is making progress, and this is yet another indication of how this war made the Russian military stronger.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:09 utc | 438

@438 it’s what SB says and doesn’t say that makes me think he is a troll. Being a doomer in Russia is normal (although still a minority position), but studiously ignoring inconvenient questions and points while hammering away at a very repetitive message is odd.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:16 utc | 439

@438 it’s what SB says and doesn’t say that makes me think he is a troll. Being a doomer in Russia is normal (although still a minority position), but studiously ignoring inconvenient questions and points while hammering away at a very repetitive message is odd.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:17 utc | 440

Posted by: bored | Mar 12 2024 14:07 utc | 438
No.
He is voicing the channels That support his (west) propaganda.
As an example, other Russian channels are indeed worried by, say Ukrainian naval drones, but they ask for some kind of solution of the problem, not for RF to nuke everything around.
SB is on the western line of think that goes ‘hey, they did so and so, we should not allow that, let’ s take the big guns and punish that motherfuckers’.
More often than not this ends up with a bloody nose as best.
I think Russians know better.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 12 2024 14:18 utc | 441

@ rk | Mar 12 2024 13:55 utc | 436
I would like you to find and provide the link to the exact post, please.

Posted by: boneless | Mar 12 2024 14:24 utc | 442

it’s still not remotely close to American satellite capacity
@Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:09 utc | 439
You forgot to say that many of the hundreds of satellites, owned by more countries than US/nato alone, that are being used against them today were launched by Russia for $5. They stopped launching them after smo started, at a large batch of UK’s Starlink spy network clone. Coincidence or not, the boss was fired soon after, and Ukros tried and failed to kill him on his birthday. If they did not have enough spy satellites in 2022, it can be only the result of mental retardation in the general staff and their advisors. For years US couldn’t even fly, but also for $5 Russia put them into space. Now they scream “our pardners??? why??”

Posted by: rk | Mar 12 2024 14:29 utc | 443

What is funny is that the so-called Russian channel Rybar wrote on TG about a month ago that Russia is so bureaucratic that it takes many days before any retaliation takes place, paperwork has to be done. He wrote Ukr helicopters and planes bomb freely anything they want then return and no one shoots at them because orders are not received in time. Lovely people these bloggers
Posted by: rk | Mar 12 2024 13:55 utc | 436

Which brings the obvious question of what exactly would happen if a really serious attack were to happen, i.e. if missiles are flying towards Moscow? How fast will the reaction be if it took full 60 hours to respond to e.g. the Kerch bridge bombing?

To everyone bashing shadowbanned as a troll/concern troll; you need to understand he’s just voicing what most Russians themselves are thinking. He even posted links to telegram channels from Russian sources fed up with this slow/soft approach to the war.
Posted by: bored | Mar 12 2024 14:07 utc | 438

My position is in large part a consequence of what the mood inside Russia is. I was extremely enthusiastic about things in the first few weeks two years ago. But that was based on quite unrealistic information about what was going on. And then we know what happened after the first month…

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 14:32 utc | 444

For years US couldn’t even fly, but also for $5 Russia put them into space. Now they scream “our pardners??? why??”
Posted by: rk | Mar 12 2024 14:29 utc | 444

And to make it even more painful, those were all years after it had become unequivocally clear that there will be a direct clash between the superpowers in the future…

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 14:46 utc | 445

https://t.me/treugolniklpr/23642

🇷🇺🇺🇦Analysis of the results of the destruction of enemy infrastructure at the Korotich airfield
About an hour ago, a missile strike was carried out on the territory of the Korotich sports airfield in the north of Kharkov .
Coordinates: 49.9703867, 36.0075892
🔻The airfield is actively used by Ukrainian formations for training pilots of light aircraft, training operators of unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as launching Tu-141 Swift.
🔻According to the data received, two ballistic missiles (the third missile hit an open area) destroyed two Mi-8 helicopters (they periodically provided air support to enemy ground groups in the Kharkov direction) and several Tu-141 “Strizh” units (UAV launches were recorded during a night raid ) which were located in airfield hangars. A strong fire broke out at the site, which was observed by residents of surrounding settlements.
📌The last few days have shown us a qualitatively different approach – Russian units are actively working on the flight infrastructure, delivering effective strikes in many regions of Ukraine. Of course, such actions cannot lead to the complete destruction of objects, but their consequences at least limit the enemy’s ability to conduct air operations.

As usual, how is this stuff only being hit now???

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 14:49 utc | 446

If anyone ever wondered what synchronised trolling looked like.
For all those scratching their heads due to the gross inconsistencies; factual errors; re-writing of history.
It’s not supposed to make any sense. Their intention is to destroy the thread and reduce traffic to this website.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 12 2024 14:50 utc | 447

I’m happy to contribute twice a year. But…the troll situation here has become dire. Today alone SB has posted over and over again. Long posts, as is usual. I scroll through and finally give up and go feed the chickens or wash dishes. I doubt that many come here, or contribute, in order to read the same follderoll from SB and his co-conspritors. Not that long ago such commentors were banned…

Posted by: Robert E.Smith | Mar 12 2024 14:50 utc | 448

@446 25 years ago in 1999, Russia was bankrupt and collapsed, a shadow of its former self. The largest country by land area in the world imported a huge chunk of its food, a full-spectrum superpower 10 years previous now had a life expectancy shorter than most African countries, and a mad max economy based on a few bandits looting the remains of Soviet natural resource investments. 25 years is not a long time. I was alive in 1999, it feels almost like yesterday.
Russia has made tremendous progress in the first quarter of this century. It’s not perfect, there are things I as a backseat driver would have done differently, but you can’t expect “hey why wasn’t Russia prepared for a world war with the western block a decade after utter its devastation”. Western launches kept the Russian space program alive, it still is one area where Russia did not yet come close to recovering completely

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:58 utc | 449

As usual, how is this stuff only being hit now???
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 14:49 utc | 447
Moaning at the Russian MoD when the Russian MoD do what you advocate twenty times each day. Apparently they should have done it sooner.
Pathetic, childish, inconsistent, not serious 🤡
As is anyone who defends this rubbish.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 12 2024 14:58 utc | 450

What a garbage dump.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 12 2024 15:01 utc | 451

Does Russia still have/use Tocka M missile?

Posted by: vargas | Mar 12 2024 15:38 utc | 452

Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:58 utc | 450
“Putin inherited a ransacked and bewildered country, with a poor and demoralized people,” Solzhenitsyn told the German magazine Der Spiegel in a 2007 interview, when Putin was still president. “And he started to do what was possible, a slow and gradual restoration. These efforts were not noticed, nor appreciated, immediately. In any case, one is hard-pressed to find examples in history when steps by one country to restore its strength were met favorably by other governments.”

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 15:52 utc | 453

Loong time lurker here, just prairiedogging to say how much I love reading this Shadowbanned forum.
I learned a lot, but mostly about myself and importance of self control, and of reading the thread bottoms up.

Posted by: Prairiedog | Mar 12 2024 15:55 utc | 454

This shadowbanned person demands Putin nuke everyone in sight, but he doesn’t demand that Putin reinstitute FAB bombing in the Berdychi – Semyonovka – Orlovka – Tonenka area (i.e., the area west of Avdeevka; by far the most critical section of the front line).
From what I have read it seems that shadowbanned thinks Putin is some sort of Russian traitor.
Perhaps he thinks it was Putin that pulled the FABs from the Berdychi – Semyonovka – Orlovka – Tonenka area in order to help the Ukrainians establish some sort of defense. In this case shouldn’t shadowbanned be screaming for Putin to reinstitute FAB bombing in the Berdychi – Semyonovka – Orlovka – Tonenka area, or screaming for Putin’s head.
Maybe he is just not up with the play.

Posted by: preposterous | Mar 12 2024 16:01 utc | 455

Does Russia still have/use Tocka M missile?
Posted by: vargas | Mar 12 2024 15:38 utc | 453
No, replaced. too old.

Posted by: rk | Mar 12 2024 16:02 utc | 456

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:58 utc | 450
Yes to all that, great post.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 16:03 utc | 457

(@ rk ) I would like you to find and provide the link to the exact post, please.
Posted by: boneless | Mar 12 2024 14:24 utc | 443

Ageeed, please post a link if you can, I missed that one and it’s very difficult to search Russian TG without Russian language expertise.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 16:07 utc | 458

Western launches kept the Russian space program alive, it still is one area where Russia did not yet come close to recovering completely
Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 14:58 utc | 450
Yes to all that, great post.
Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 12 2024 16:03 utc | 458
Wrong, as usual. The world record for the most successful series of launches is held by Russia and continues today, still counting. The space program is far from needing any “recovery” you dream about. Even more funny is that the world record of explosions at launch should be given to Elon, too bad it does not exists as a category.

Posted by: rk | Mar 12 2024 16:10 utc | 459

@460 this is from a quick google search:
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/01/us-leads-world-in-2023-launches-sats-on-orbit-study/?amp=1
The USA and now China far exceed Russia in space launches. I’m talking abut 2023, not 1980. Russian space exploration still has quite a way to go to recover to its Soviet peak. Space is a huge point of pride for Russia so I think they will get there eventually.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 12 2024 16:21 utc | 460

so this new little gem from the unelected eu authorities:

The new law sets consistent definitions for violations, including not freezing funds, not respecting travel bans or arms embargoes, transferring funds to persons subject to sanctions, or

i want you all to remember this one little nugget from germans history:
“Kauft nicht beim Juden.”
the state (eu) dictates to the individual with whom they are allowed to trade.
we have indeed come full circle.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 16:21 utc | 461

Dear B could you please rename this thread “Pro et contra SB” because 48% of it is BS by SB and 47% is commenting BS so very little left, extremely difficult to get anything real about Ukraine in here now

Posted by: Avtonom | Mar 12 2024 16:23 utc | 462

Posted by: Avtonom | Mar 12 2024 16:23 utc | 463
Amen. And Amen.

Posted by: Mexicana | Mar 12 2024 16:27 utc | 463

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 16:21 utc | 462
Thanks for this. That’s really rich. Wonder how they are going to enforce it?

Posted by: Avtonom | Mar 12 2024 16:27 utc | 464

i just want to add to my 462, that the state (eu) is supposed to be serving the people.
we are paying the taxes, so that the state (eu) can operate on a mutually benefitial basis.
and yet the state (eu) is here in a clear violation to its own people.
soon someone can face a fine or jailtime for simply spending money on the “wrong” person/company.

It stressed that providing financial services or legal advisory services in violation of the restrictions will also become a punishable offense.
According to the directive, courts across the bloc will be obliged to sentence individuals to prison terms of up to five years, and to issue “dissuasive” fines for companies violating or circumventing sanctions. The parliament pledged to introduce a common definition of violations, and the minimum penalties for them.

first on a per nation basis, but we all know that this will become a eu basis if certain countries dont “behave” according to brussels values.
regardless of what anyone might think of russia, or “den juden” of past, the fact alone that nonelected people in brussels are doing this to their own people should ring alarm bells to anyone with a working brain. we all know where this leads to.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 16:28 utc | 465

I’m for free speech. Even when, or if, people do not agree with me.
If you don’t like somebody’s views, don’t read them!
That is really simple.
Like switching the TV off, or even throwing it out, which I did 20 years ago.
Grow up, and stope this childish moaning!

Posted by: g wiltek | Mar 12 2024 16:30 utc | 466

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/12/world/europe/ukraine-drone-russia-jamming.html
Russian Electronic Warfare is successful vs. Ukraine drones

Posted by: mjh | Mar 12 2024 16:35 utc | 467

The reason I come here is to get away from the mass media echo chamber, to not be told what to think. All these posts against shadowbanned make me sick to my stomach and I just give up, I’m going outside to feed my chickens and do other wholesome rural things. I believe that anyone should be able to say what they want, even paid trolls trying to influence the narrative.
See how easy that was?

Posted by: Rural Kentuckian | Mar 12 2024 16:54 utc | 468

My position is in large part a consequence of what the mood inside Russia is. I was extremely enthusiastic about things in the first few weeks two years ago. But that was based on quite unrealistic information about what was going on. And then we know what happened after the first month…
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 12 2024 14:32 utc | 445
And are you inside Russia now? Is that where you judge the mood of Russians towards the SMO? Do you meet and converse with Russians about their attitudes towards the conduct of the SMO?

Posted by: Moscow | Mar 12 2024 16:55 utc | 469

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 12 2024 13:01 utc | 430
Obviously. It’s a small group working from cubicles. The answer to that kind of thing is to ignore, and sometimes mock them, never address the points they try to rise. Eventually the small funding for the cubicle people will dry out and then sincere commenters, both critical and supportive of the Russian government, will engage in interesting conversation without the noise from the cubicle people. Threads will be substantially shorter.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 12 2024 17:19 utc | 470

Details on cross border drone attacks.

FACTBOX: What we know about massive Ukrainian drone attack on Russian regions
“MOSCOW, March 12. /TASS/. Russia’s air defenses intercepted and destroyed over 30 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) over several Russian regions, the Defense Ministry reported.
In addition, Russian air defense systems intercepted eight rockets and a Tochka-U tactical ballistic missile over the Belgorod Region, it said.
The massive Ukrainian drone attack caused fire at facilities in the Nizhny Novgorod and Oryol regions, while in Belgorod a drone crashed into the building of the city administration. According to the latest updates, eight people were injured.
TASS has gathered key facts about the attack.
Geography of attacks
– Russia’s Defense Ministry reported that air defenses had intercepted at least 31 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles over seven regions of the country. Russian air defense systems intercepted most of all UAVs (16) over the Kursk Region along with eight drones over the Belgorod Region, two drones over the Moscow and Oryol regions each and one drone over each of the Bryansk, Leningrad and Tula regions.
– Regional authorities also reported about Ukrainian drone attacks in the Voronezh and Nizhny Novgorod regions. In particular, air defenses shot down UAVs over Voronezh and Taganrog.
– Russia’s Defense Ministry reported later that air defense systems had intercepted eight rockets of the Czech-made Vampire multiple launch rocket system and a Tochka-U tactical ballistic missile over the Belgorod Region. Based on available data, the Ukrainian military had launched a Tochka-U ballistic missile for the first time since January.
– In addition, Ukrainian UAVs targeted districts in the Belgorod Region.
– The air raid alert lasted several hours in various Russian regions. The missile danger in the Kursk Region was declared at around 1:25 a.m. Moscow time (10:25 p.m. GMT on March 11) and air defenses were still at work close to 7:30 a.m. Moscow time (4:30 GMT). In the Voronezh Region, authorities reported the destruction of the drone around 5:10 a.m. Moscow time (2:10 a.m. GMT), and after 2:10 p.m. Moscow time (11:10 a.m. GMT), the region’s governor, Alexander Gusev, said the danger was still in place.
Consequences
– As the latest data suggest, no one was hurt in most of the cases in the massive Ukrainian drone attack. At least seven people were injured in the Belgorod Region – two in Belgorod, three in Shebekeno and two more people were injured in the settlement of Golovino. One person was wounded in the township of Tyotkino in the Kursk Region.
– The Ukrainian drone attack in the Oryol Region set an oil tank ablaze, with the fire engulfing an area of 100 sq. m. Seventeen civilians were evacuated from two nearby apartment buildings.
– An oil refining installation caught fire in the town of Kstovo in the Nizhny Novgorod Region, Governor Gleb Nikitin said. The fire was put out several hours later.
– In the Belgorod Region, power outages occurred in seven communities of the Belgorodsky district and five communities in the Graivoronsky district as a result of the Ukrainian drone attacks that also damaged buildings in the Borisovsky district and Shebekino. A power transmission line was damaged in the settlement of Novaya Tavolzhanka as a result of the UAV attack.
– In the afternoon of March 12, a drone crashed into the Belgorod administration building, busting windows and damaging the facade. Prior to that, another drone hit the wall of a store, damaging it as well as four cars.
– Restrictions were introduced at the airports of Kaluga and Nizhny Novgorod due to the Ukrainian drone attacks. One flight bound for Strigino Airport in Nizhny Novgorod headed for an alternate airfield.
Attempted breakthrough by saboteurs
– In the afternoon of March 12, the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and the Defense Ministry reported unsuccessful attempts by Ukrainian forces to break into the Belgorod and Kursk regions.
– The Defense Ministry said that Kiev had lost up to 60 people, five tanks and an armored personnel carrier in the Belgorod Region alone. The ministry did not provide data on the Kursk Region.
– According to the FSB, since March 10, Ukrainian forces have lost more than 100 people, six tanks, a CAESAR self-propelled artillery system, as well as 20 armored combat vehicles and a stronghold while trying to cross the border.
Previous attack
– This has been the second massive attack by Ukrainian UAVs on Russian regions over the past few days. In particular, Russia’s Defense Ministry reported on the morning of March 9 that air defenses had intercepted 47 Ukrainian drones over the Belgorod Region (1), the Kursk Region (2), the Volgograd Region (3) and the Rostov Region (41). The attack had no serious consequences.”
TASS

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 12 2024 17:20 utc | 471

Justpassinby | Mar 12 2024 16:28 utc | 466
***.. regardless of what anyone might think of russia, or “den juden” of past, the fact alone that nonelected people in brussels are doing this to their own people should ring alarm bells to anyone with a working brain. we all know where this leads to.***
The NATO/WEF global dictatorship.
Which owns the gang in Brussels and is not accountable to the public, anywhere.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 12 2024 18:12 utc | 472

i would like to remind you first of all how the extreme right walked into the deutsche bank.
The Uk- rain comes only after.
Hello to the local crew, i like to read here, but i only write fiction for fun.
But now, that my collegue (here in the Netherlands, we have quite good collegues) tells me he’s afraid of war, i should try to understand, that people are afraid of USA>RU

Posted by: asyme | Mar 12 2024 18:51 utc | 473

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 12 2024 18:09 “Has anyone answered the earlier question as to why FAB attacks west of Adviivka seem to have been suspended?”
There is one possibility that is suggested by the posts of shadowbanned;
That is that some Russian traitors high up in the Russian air force, shadowbanned would say Putin himself, have been activated to move the FAB bombing elsewhere, in order to help the Ukrainians establish some sort of defense west of Avdeevka.

Posted by: preposterous | Mar 12 2024 19:31 utc | 474

https://www.rt.com/russia/594081-ukraine-wsj-zelensky-west/
Some tweaking of the story around why the treaty in 2022 fell through. It was more Z than Bojo according to these latest reports…

Kiev’s vision of the agreement implied that the country’s security must be guaranteed by NATO leaders in any circumstances, regardless of Ukraine’s actions.
According to Arakhamia, Boris Johnson then came to Ukraine, told Zelensky “let’s just fight,” and that’s how war started. The situation was further fueled by the Bucha provocation. (By the way, Johnson himself has called the Ukrainian version of events “total nonsense and Russian propaganda.”)
So, what really happened in April 2022? Apparently, upon arriving in Kiev, Johnson told Zelensky (speaking on behalf of the UK, US, and France) something along the lines of: ‘You can sign anything you want, but we will not sign anything and we are not ready to provide any guarantees, especially considering your requirements and wording.
‘The decision is yours, Mr. Zelensky. If you choose war, we will support you with money and weapons; if you choose peace, you will be left on your own with Putin.’
This matches the West’s subsequent actions and decisions, since so far, no one in the West has taken on any legal obligations in regard to Ukraine. Even the agreements on military assistance concluded this spring are nothing more than a set of declarations which are convenient for the West. Here’s the collective stance of Western leaders: NATO is not ready to provide any guarantees to Ukraine and will not sign any agreements.
If all this is indeed true (and the facts seem to leave no room for doubt), then it was Zelensky who made the fatal decision to stop negotiations. And while the West pushed him to this decision, its leaders also fell into the trap of believing that the conflict could be settled on the battlefield.
At some point, instead of following a rational course, Western elites allowed their emotions to get the better of them. Zelensky convinced them that the Armed Forces of Ukraine could defeat Russia, and they believed this to such an extent that they were willing to risk their political standing and even the future of the entire current liberal world order.
All this has led the West to a decisive fork in the road: What to do if Ukraine loses? Should Western leaders follow the example of Johnson and leave Ukraine alone with Moscow, or should they start a big war with Russia?
Either way, the path that they chose will influence the entire course of world history.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 12 2024 20:56 utc | 475

he’s just voicing what most Russians themselves are thinking. He even posted links to telegram channels from Russian sources fed up with this slow/soft approach to the war.
Posted by: bored | Mar 12 2024 14:07 utc | 438

Nah, another lie.
I am a Russian, I know what the “Russians ourselves are thinking”.
His mode is at the most cherry-picking clickbaits out of million Mom’s warriors’ accounts and relocants who run away from war to Israel and now trying to prove to themselves that they were right. Russians have been proving what they are thinking by doing things, not talking about them.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Mar 13 2024 2:05 utc | 476

Lev Davidovich | Mar 12 2024 14:50 utc | 448
These kinds of paranoid conspiracy theories bore me to tears. FACT is people sometiems lose their self-control. And when someon eis being CONSTANTLY ATTACKED and ABUSED and LIED about, golly gee whiz, sometime sthey decide to hit back the only way they can on a forum like this ….. and successfully the annoy the crap out of their intolerant abusers.
seen it thousands of times …. a bit of Karma is what it looks like — take a chill pill. Block his comments.
Robert E.Smith | Mar 12 2024 14:50 utc | 449
Huh? SB made 13 posts on this page , all short to TG info — not hard hard to skip. What’s the big deal? I’ve seen far worse here.
It would be much better if they rolled several TG posts into one post here …. a little respect would help (both ways?)
If prolific posters and others drive you nuts, then use the Barfly Tools script with something like the Tampermonkey app that can BLOCK posters comments here.
The whole things looks like a concerted beat up.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 13 2024 11:58 utc | 477

@ Cynic, §473:
Well said.

Posted by: John Marks | Mar 13 2024 18:07 utc | 478