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March 10, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-075

Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine.

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.

Comments

Posted by: Avtonom | Mar 11 2024 8:57 utc | 199
It would also help if a post began with the posters’ name.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 11 2024 9:11 utc | 201

Posted by: Avtonom | Mar 11 2024 8:57 utc | 199
A sound suggestion. The posing of questions to the troll was particularly galling, as if we hadn’t heard enough shit from him. It wasn’t the first time that someone had naively asked his opinion. What is notable is that he never answers either a direct question or the countless times posters point out his factual errors and patent nonsense.
In that regard he is like his western political leaders, one gear, forward; never considers the points of others, selfishly ploughs on no matter how wrong they are. It does make you think “What will stop these imbeciles?”

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 11 2024 9:12 utc | 202

This is a proxy war – so proxies would carry out any response Russia has in mind.
Posted by: James M. | Mar 11 2024 3:26 utc | 167
It is very possible that a number of nukes could be sent out to “countries which import a lot” and have “their major cities on sea shores” by means of whiteware or automotive containers loaded in south east asian countries …
Simultaneous detonations wont be hard to plan.
That’ll be some proxy move hard to retaliate to.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 11 2024 9:14 utc | 203

Posted by: bevin | Mar 11 2024 1:27 utc | 150
Excellent.
Hope you’re right.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 11 2024 9:18 utc | 204

James M. | Mar 11 2024 3:26 utc | 167
On the part of RoW, it is not a proxie war. Their is an interconnecting web of allegiances that coordinated their individual strategies.
Like the image I sometimes have in my mind of the Russia China Iran trio. The huge china trying to hold the US empire close in a bear hug, lighter but but different disposition Russian smacking empire in the face, lightweight Iran busy kicking empire in the nuts…

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 9:25 utc | 205

NATO Can Have Ukraine or the USA—Not Both
A treaty commitment to Ukraine is a dangerous liability with no upside.
Posted by: sln2002 | Mar 10 2024 16:25 utc | 2
Thank you for this link. An article that gives insight in the US mind. Summarized: if Ukraine enters NATO, we – the USA – leave.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 11 2024 9:28 utc | 206

Latest Trumpy Bombshell,
making the end of the war a complete win for Russia around Feb 2025

Orban just revealed that in his recent meeting, Trump unambiguously promised that he would not pay another penny to Ukraine if he wins.
“If the US will not provide the money, Europeans on their own will not be able to finance this war, and then the war will end,” Trump explained.
Well, that’s actually a moot point. The EU MAY STILL continue to dig deeper and keep throwing shit out of it’s playpen. In which case Russia will win bigger and Europe will lose bigger for as long as they keep trying.
But strategically what Trump is saying is that he doesn’t care if Russia wins. He’s buying America right out of the conflict. He is in fact making the Ukr-RF fight Europe’s problem, which it is. That is incredibly enlightened thinking. Gasp!
Ironically, if he stops the money (and stops the weapons), Russia does not necessarily HAVE TO STOP FIGHTING, because America has nothing Russia wants — other than to fuck right off out of Europe. Trump can’t blackmail Putin with anything. So the real end of the war will be at Putin’s behest.
Lol. Omg. Wow. His promise, if he does it, certainly solidifies the divide anew — for American voters, Washington Warmongers, Pentagon, Kiev, the AFU, NATO, EU, and everyone elsewhere!!!
Funnily, it’s actually a US vote winner and will have EU/NATO S.H.I.T.T.I.N.G themselves. Lol. Bring it on, Donald.
Now, if only we could get him to make the same cuts to Israel, the world would be a slightly happier place.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 11 2024 9:35 utc | 207

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 9:25 utc | 206
It’s proxy in terms of it is not the US directly attacking Russia. That’s what proxy means – they use other allies if you will.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 11 2024 9:37 utc | 208

I should add that identical to his western political masters, the troll posts so often because he is trying to push a narrative. His narrative is as lacking in objective reality as a Trump rally “I’m gonna secure the border like I didn’t do last time and let in a virus that killed over a million Americans” or Genocide Joe’s State of the Union nonsense “inflation keeps going down”.
It is troll in chief’s whole function here shitting on these otherwise informative boards, in a sentence though he’d never be so concise “Kremlin inefficient, regime change Putin.” He has to post repeatedly to drip drip drip into the slow and soft brained such as Vile Membrum the genocide cheerleader and the recent arrival Jack Ass.
Shadow-RAND

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 11 2024 9:39 utc | 209

It’s proxy in terms of it is not the US directly attacking Russia. That’s what proxy means – they use other allies if you will.
Posted by: James M. | Mar 11 2024 9:37 utc | 209
And there is the rub. US is governed by the shining knights of the corporate round table. I don’t think Trump is part of that, just a useful tool like Biden. The board has decided pursuing the Ukraine project is just throwing good money after after bad from this point. Time to try China and for this, Trump is now the right tool.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 9:45 utc | 210

Trump, the shining nights of the corporate table, the sheeple.
The flock… https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Christ-And-His-Sheep
This is not to be in anyway derogatory of the genuine Christians here but this link is what the knights of the corporate round table work on.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 9:52 utc | 211

How it will play exactly I have no idea though.
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 11 2024 1:06 utc | 139
He asked you how Putin should handle it.
You gave no answer.
Because soft power is very difficult to fight.
——
Prior to the coup in Ukraine in 2014 Russia effectively controlled 100% of Ukraine…
Posted by: Julian | Mar 11 2024 2:38 utc | 161
If this was true, there would never have been a coup. Russia had been losing control over Ukraine for decades.
Because soft power is very difficult to fight.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 11 2024 9:54 utc | 212

James M. | Mar 11 2024 9:37 utc | 209
Yep. Lavrov stated plainly that RF accepts the challenge of hybrid war, and although US incorporates proxies in its hybrid war (as in proxies being brain washed cannon fodder) Russia does not do so. Not picking at you here, rather just putting up my thoughts.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 10:11 utc | 213

@ James M. | Mar 11 2024 9:37 utc | 209

It’s proxy in terms of it is not the US directly attacking Russia. That’s what proxy means – they use other allies if you will.

That is simply not true. US do not hide what they do, they are intimately involved, and they are too full of themselves not to brag about it.

Posted by: boneless | Mar 11 2024 10:37 utc | 214

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 10:11 utc | 214
Well Russia has used proxies in the past. I mean Wagner was technically a proxy when it was in Africa,. I don’t mean proxies as brainwashed cannon fodder though. I use it in the broadest possible sense that still allows some plausible deniability.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 11 2024 10:46 utc | 215

“I stand by my analysis. Reading up on stories by mid-level US military participants convinced me of the military part of the story. The political part is another story, well rehearsed.”
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 11 2024 0:09 utc | 119
“If there is little will to fight, no amount of firepower on paper will make up for it.
That is just part of the psychology of war. War can’t be looked at as purely military equipment and mindless human zombies to man it.
We see that time and again.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 0:46 utc | 131
I have to go with Peter on this one.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 11:05 utc | 216

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 10 2024 23:02 utc | 107

………………….
P.P.S. Russia already used tactical nukes (assuming it was their missiles that detonated in Khmelnytskyi and not NATO warheads that were stored on that site). The US didn’t launch an open nuclear strike on Russia, instead everyone agreed to not comment at all on what happened.

These are his FACTS
– Russia has already used tactical nuclear weapons – NO evidence – nothing but his imagination
– assuming it was their missiles that detonated in Khmelnytskyi – here he even negates his fantasy-fact
to keep the nukes story going, he introduces NATO nukes
– and not NATO warheads that were stored on that site – again only fantasy/lies

Posted by: ghiwen | Mar 11 2024 11:13 utc | 217

“What the Soviet Union allowed the “West” was enough rope to hang itself. ”
Posted by: bevin | Mar 11 2024 1:27 utc | 150
So the USSR’s self immolation in 90-91 was a clever ruse to, “allow the West enough rope to hang itself”?
That idea is patently absurd.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 11:20 utc | 218

James M. | Mar 11 2024 10:46 utc | 216
Wagner appears to be somewhat like the French foreign legion, but in such a way as to allow plausible deniability. Possibly some join up for the money, but for pure mercenaries, the American PMC’s give better life expectancy and I would presume better pay. The bulk of those that sign up, just going by the rare interviews, sign up to fight the anglo American empire.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 11:25 utc | 219

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 11 2024 1:06 utc | 139
It’s pretty obvious that you’ve never been to Russia if you believe that a Turkish takeover of Azerbaijan will cause the Turkic groups in Russia to press for independence. For a start there are three seperate groups of Tatars – Volga, Siberian and Crimean, and in no region are they a large majority of the population. Even in Tatarstan they have only a slight majority. Tatarstan joined the Russian Federation because they were surrounded by other regions of the Federation.
The attempts in the early 1990s to recreate Idel Ural were largely a CIA operation. The problem that they faced was that all ethnic groups and regions all wanted to be top dog. Getting Kazan and Siberian Tatars, Chuvash, Bashkirs and Russians to cooperate was almost impossible, and agreeing to share finances was completely impossible.

Posted by: Peter Williams | Mar 11 2024 11:28 utc | 220

“I continue to posit we are watching end game in Ukraine currently unless NATO steps in and I don’t see that happening….and if it does happen it may be the defining moment in the SMO.”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 11 2024 4:57 utc | 180
I agree with you; Macron’s recent ‘aggressive ‘ military stance is but a negotiating ploy.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 11:29 utc | 221

NATO Can Have Ukraine or the USA—Not Both
Posted by: sln2002 | Mar 10 2024 16:25 utc | 2
That also means: We Americans only created the conditions for the war in Ukraine. You Europeans now have to make sure that it doesn’t turn out too badly for you.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Mar 11 2024 11:32 utc | 222

Posted by: ghiwen | Mar 11 2024 11:13 utc | 218

Watch the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oRxTrSInSk
Some different angles with the city itself for size reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScIjdUQH2gA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFaJSOXIEb8
Then for further comparison, a 1-kt surface test from the 1950s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WJTkKziJ5o
Which ones looks bigger and brighter?
And here is a regular missile strike on Khmelnytskyi from late 2022:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OHZkZfYEAi0

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 11 2024 11:32 utc | 223

Look up Club-k.

Posted by: 5jumpchump | Mar 11 2024 11:42 utc | 224

Right now NATO is not a convincing deterrent. IMHO, that is not the fault of the military. It is the result of political choices. In a way, the conditions needed to have a functional army do not align with the preferences of the current political class.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 11 2024 11:53 utc | 225

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 11 2024 11:53 utc | 226
I would add that a functional army is not aligned with the goal of Mic in the west, that is, extract most profits for weapon are.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 11 2024 12:46 utc | 226

Shure 800000 shells, if this is the batch for this year afu can use an astounding 2000 a day, RF is rumored to use 10000+ a day.
For the black sea no one noted that RF has sunk 2 Ukrainian ships of the already inexistent Ukraine fleet a couple of days ago.
I second you, the effect will be seen in a few months.
Posted by: Mario | Mar 11 2024 8:56 utc | 198
———————
Funny thing is, a lot of Russia’s currently active & mothballed ships in the black sea were formerly Ukrainian before 2014.
Including some of the ones sunk, so there’s that…

Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 11 2024 12:48 utc | 227

Ukrainian attack force that was preparing to attack into Belgorod was spotted and then hit with Lancet drones, Iskanders and FABs.
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1767100183777595567

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 11 2024 12:50 utc | 228

“According to the statistics kept by our security forces, from February 2022 to the present, the losses of NATO countries are 121 officers and 96 sergeants.
In addition, there are more than 270 “vacationers” and 6,894 private military personnel.
In total, during this time, sanitary losses of non-Ukrainian citizens in the theater of operations of Ukraine amounted to about 30 thousand people.”
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1767124012360966161

Posted by: chop | Mar 11 2024 12:55 utc | 229

It’s pretty obvious that you’ve never been to Russia if you believe that a Turkish takeover of Azerbaijan will cause the Turkic groups in Russia to press for independence. For a start there are three seperate groups of Tatars – Volga, Siberian and Crimean, and in no region are they a large majority of the population. Even in Tatarstan they have only a slight majority. Tatarstan joined the Russian Federation because they were surrounded by other regions of the Federation.
The attempts in the early 1990s to recreate Idel Ural were largely a CIA operation. The problem that they faced was that all ethnic groups and regions all wanted to be top dog. Getting Kazan and Siberian Tatars, Chuvash, Bashkirs and Russians to cooperate was almost impossible, and agreeing to share finances was completely impossible.
Posted by: Peter Williams | Mar 11 2024 11:28 utc | 221
——————
The part about Erdogian taking over Central Asia because of Ottoman themed period dramas & Turkish soap operas was even funnier.
As if the Turkish economy wasn’t a basket case, one bad week away from hyperinflation.
With a green military that can barely hold onto a “moderate rebel” infested Syrian border strip & facing much worse separatist problems on top of that.
All before one even considers that modern “Turks” and Central Asians arnt even vaguely related by ethnicity.
Now Azeris are closer to Anatolians to be sure, but they’re specifically much more akin to Iranians.
So frankly the RF has a better chance of re-igniting pan-Slavism in the future TBH.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 11 2024 13:03 utc | 230

Well we’ll it seems the secret army within the army adventurism to invade Russia through the forests using Badenovs irregulars got the all their shit bombed out of them from every orifice in the forests they tried to traverse- was it Cookie Nudemans surprise for Putin?
That’s a lot of burnt armour , artillery, special forces ! A desperation that is matched by Macaroons Missiles (luftewaffe ones) and British Royal Naval (jolly secret drones).
Don’t know exactly when it culminated but would be curious if it was just before the cookie monster’s defenestration ‘escape’ to the Right.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 11 2024 13:03 utc | 231

😂 Senator Lindsey Graham says Ukraine should return the money it received from the US:
“The idea that our allies should pay us back if they can when we’re $34 trillion in debt. This is America first in action. It’s not isolationism, but it is considering the needs of the American people. I hope to be going to Ukraine soon, and I hope to be able to tell them, the aid is coming. It will be in the form of a loan. Pay us back if you can.”

https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1767174890073788501

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 11 2024 13:07 utc | 232

@Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 4:10 utc | 175
The veteran posters is a Brit who, by his own admission, started out on the left and now is on the right. I’ve always appreciated his insight on military strategy and tactics.

Posted by: Paranaense | Mar 11 2024 13:11 utc | 233

Posted by: ghiwen | Mar 11 2024 11:13 utc | 218
Nukes don’t explode when bombed by conventional explosives.
One fantastic scenario in alternative universe could dream of nuke “joining the fun” in cascading chain reaction under atomic bombing … but very much unlikely.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 11 2024 13:16 utc | 234

Shadowbanned is interesting, he’s obviously intelligent and well informed, but he’s a communist which just by itself is a very unusual belief to hold in 2024. He’s also fixated on the nuclear thing, and more than anything it doesn’t make sense why he wastes his time posting here. Most of the regular “barflies” are certified idiots with 0.0000% influence in their home countries. SB is not an intelligence operation because first of all, why waste your time here on an incredibly marginal (it cannot be more marginal) comment section?
We all have our reasons. I’m interested in the war and have a recent ancestral connection to Russia. I’m also a native English speaker so I tend to focus on the English-language internet. There’s not much out there that isn’t extremely pro-Ukrainian and dismissive of Russia. Simplicius is the “smartest” one, but I’m not going to pay to comment there. Gilbert Doctorow is an old fool. Here you can find regular updates (thanks Down South) and some reasonably intelligent commentary on the doomer side (SB, Milites, an Anonymous who seems to be a single person). The pro-Z here are incredible idiots (with a handful of exceptions who rarely post).
I have no clear idea which way this war will go, I mean Russia isn’t going to totally lose, but I don’t know if it ends with some more marginal gains in the Donbas to save face or half of Ukraine or flipping the government to pro-Russian without taking more land to Russia. It’s also an interesting war because the leader is just such a weird guy. It serves him well in some areas but you just can’t predict what he will do because it doesn’t really make sense. Enforce no red lines at all? Ever? Despite talking about them incessantly at the beginning? Why start the war in the first place? I have my theories but really who knows.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 13:26 utc | 235

There is something weird in the attitude of Europeans in these conflict. This is not an existential issue for Europe or EU. But they pretend that it is. Those who pretend can never be really motivated. But maybe there are secret groups in EU/Europe to whom this is an existential war, only we do not know who they are.

Posted by: vargas | Mar 11 2024 13:32 utc | 236

I can hear stuff cooking off (secondary detonations) in Khelmynsky videos, and the flash isn’t as bright/big as a nuke blast would produce, unless they’ve changed since I was little.
I think sb should stick to “we are losing, not ruthless enough, nukes now, regime change now” – it’s a good tune and we can all hum along.
And for maybe the sixth (unanswered) time I ask him – why are you telling us these things when you should be telling the nearest Russian embassy? The barflies here have zero influence on Russia’s armed forces.
He’s obviously an intelligent and well informed chap, as I’d expect someone in his position to be.
And to people who ask why on earth he should do it, this is as much an information/morale war as a bombs on heads war. If Western support stops, as various politicians have pointed out, Ukraine will have to surrender or go guerrilla.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 11 2024 13:49 utc | 237

Posted by: vargas | Mar 11 2024 13:32 utc | 237
“This is not an existential issue for Europe or EU. But they pretend that it is.”
Well they don’t want their increasingly impoverished populations to decide their real enemies are a bit closer to home, do they? So keep scaring the children with tales of Mad Vlad and his insatiable lust for blood and other people’s land…

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 11 2024 13:52 utc | 238

If Shadowbanned was an intelligence operation he wouldn’t be a Covid and climate change affirmer (and a very strong one, beyond what the median educated westerner even is). He would have cartoon caricature beliefs in anti-masking and microchips inside the vaxx and Bilderberg (what the hell is that anyway lol?) that would make him a more typical western pro-Z dead-ender. As it is, his beliefs are internally consistent with a smart but marginalized young academic communist.
I’ve met people like Shadowbanned in my life, with the dial turned down a little because people are more circumspect face-to-face. My personal guess is he’s a student or young academic in a regional British university but these sorts of specific guesses always turn out wrong.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 14:26 utc | 239

Posted by: shаdοwRAND Mar 11 2024 11:32 utc | 224
An absolute blight on these boards, saying as none of us come here for comedy. But here you go…claiming, based on your own observational analysis that Russia has already used nuclear weapons almost a year ago…and virtually every day for the last two years you have implored Russia to use nuclear weapons and several times each day called for Putin to be ousted…
“Guillotined on Red Square” were your exact words, because Putin had not escalated enough for your angry patriots club liking.
So has Putin done what you wanted? If so why do you come here from clown world several times each day and moan about Putin? I forgot, you never answer questions, especially questions that make you look stupid either way.
Stop giving this shadow**** clown 🤡 any encouragement with serious responses. He has zero credibility.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 11 2024 14:44 utc | 240

He is as hopeless, demented, hubristic and plain wrong as the western political class that he thinks that he bats for here.
The clown politicians will all be voted out in the near future, but the clown 🤡 spammer will continue to shit spam on these boards.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 11 2024 14:49 utc | 241

I’m a new poster and I asked the on-topic question to Shadowbaned about Armenia. I think it’s on topic, and he gave an answer that was thoughtful and well written regardless of whether or not it’s accurate.
I don’t see him as a troll. I don’t agree with him, but he’s clearly well informed on a range of subjects.
I find the notion that the CIA would pay people to post on MoA to be completely preposterous. There is no point, there’s more value in them funding competitors to B or having some post replies to more widely read sites like the NY Times, Politico, and Jezebel.

Posted by: Afro | Mar 11 2024 14:51 utc | 242

@243 I go back and forth on whether SB has an ethnic connection to Russia. On the one hand he talks about regathering Russian lands and of Ukrainians being Russians so killing them is no accomplishment for Russia (on the latter I agree), but on the other hand he is an open communist and nationalism is pretty anathema to them. For whatever reason a lot of leftists still have a huge soft spot for Russia despite the country now being incredibly capitalist and Putin having a distinctly 1990s The Economist magazine Liberal aspect to his beliefs.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 15:00 utc | 243

“Which begs the question what if anything is the Russian fleet, any surface Russian fleet, good for at this point?”
Good question Ludo. I wonder if the USN has asked itself that very question?

Posted by: Fred777 | Mar 11 2024 15:10 utc | 244

231 – Idel Ural was a German project in WW2, and some “turned” Soviet POWs of Turkic origin wore patches with “Idel Ural” on them.

Posted by: Waldorf | Mar 11 2024 15:18 utc | 245

Afro | Mar 11 2024 14:51 utc | 243

he gave an answer that was thoughtful and well written regardless of whether or not it’s accurate.
I don’t see him as a troll. I don’t agree with him, but he’s clearly well informed on a range of subjects.

Yes, he is always very polite and not like a blind fanatic.
Many, perhaps the most reproaches of his critics here, there is a lack of decency and respect.
They just don’t have a culture of discussion
(same animals)

Posted by: theo | Mar 11 2024 15:38 utc | 246

“Which begs the question what if anything is the Russian fleet, any surface Russian fleet, good for at this point?”
Good question Ludo. I wonder if the USN has asked itself that very question?”
Posted by: Fred777 | Mar 11 2024 15:10 utc | 245
You are looking at the trees instead of the forest.
Yes Russian ships are getting creamed but that is because our current state of war is problematic for all navies; they are slow, easy too target, difficult to defend and in any war now they will be decimated as soon as real war is declared.
Ukrnaine’s ‘s navy is gone and if Russia, China or even Iran had a mind to sink American air carriers it could be done in an afternoon.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 15:40 utc | 247

vargas | Mar 11 2024 13:32 utc | 237
*** But maybe there are secret groups in EU/Europe to whom this is an existential war, only we do not know who they are.***
Those who subscribe to the (bogus) “free market” neoliberal ideology of monopoly-capitalism and its corporate entities of business and finance tend to be fanatical devotees of the US-empire, because that economic/social cultism is what they regard as being “the USA”.
Leading devotees do, of course, personally profit via the corrupt system they support.
Big-party politics having been hijacked by that ideological system … and within it the selective promotion of people over whom the system has a firm hold (for various reasons) and cancellation of dissenters … means there is hardly any significant organised opposition available to the general public.
Mass-media (also controlled) ensures there is hardly any debate about, or presentation of, alternatives* … indoctrination of the public into “there is no alternative” compliance.
* Recall how much heavyweight policy was argued during the 2019 election in the UK. There was little other than deliberate, continuous, dumbed-down hysteria packing the mass-media and blocking out almost anything serious.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 11 2024 15:41 utc | 248

“There is something weird in the attitude of Europeans in these conflict. This is not an existential issue for Europe or EU. But they pretend that it is. Those who pretend can never be really motivated. But maybe there are secret groups in EU/Europe to whom this is an existential war, only we do not know who they are.”
“secret groups”
No, no, IMO they are driven by old and new demons, for example the old, haughty and visceral classist hatred of London to Russia that we can even see here in some arrogant commentators, or the striking inertial continuity that goes from Kaiser Wilhelm II to the current blinds in Berlin through the Adolf.
On the other hand the Anglo-empire 2.0 has created a whole Mental Software, World of Fantasies, in principle aimed at the plebs, but eagerly consumed by middle management, serfs and qualified lackeys in the European capitals.

Posted by: Simon | Mar 11 2024 15:45 utc | 249

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 11 2024 9:35 utc | 208
“Now, if only we could get him [Trump] to make the same cuts to Israel, the world would be a slightly happier place.”
Be patient – IMO

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Mar 11 2024 15:45 utc | 250

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 14:26 utc | 240
Don’t think so.
You can approximately locate a user by his/her message activity (utc) assuming that this activity will be when he/she is awake.
Interesting thing, tracking sb messaging you will discover that he posts quite h24, obviously on different days.
🤔

Posted by: Mario | Mar 11 2024 15:56 utc | 251

The Sadducean priestly aristocracy of the Temple-city between the cadastre census of Sulpicius Quirinus (ca. 6) and when Menahem beheaded the high priest (ca. 66) called “the people of the land”… “those damned people”.
The fusion between the high layers of the London atmosphere and the mental software of the so-called old testament is logical: classism in chemically pure state.

Posted by: Simon | Mar 11 2024 16:05 utc | 252

Shadow banned is just a hero for a narrative. Kind of like VK before.
SB requires chaos caused by in fighting. He has plenty of online support for this scam and some intrigued by his info also support such notions. I find his avoidance to answer directly and to be able to actually stop playing middle ground a profound insight on his character.
He derails discussion by pointlessly waving the hand to and fro as if a nuke will solve anything. It is kind of disappointing, if he were really intelligence, to use it for wisdom instead of spreading warmongering knowledge which only he delights in.
Rumors of war and such. Almost an addiction to get a rise of people and to be unanswerable. Quite a let down. To the discussion. Any day of the week.

Posted by: SB | Mar 11 2024 16:09 utc | 253

It should only be a matter of time until he sings to the other board about why the USA and Israel should be dropping nukes on Hamas because they should remove netanyahoo immediately for being so delicate. But he chooses not to…… Being honest to myself it wouldn’t ever.

Posted by: SB | Mar 11 2024 16:14 utc | 254

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGKWXnQMj7Q&t=15s
Any comment on coup rumors? Also reported on Sputnik

Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 11 2024 16:49 utc | 255

NATO forces in 404 will be Kalibrated. Russians will pretend they can’t see an unit patch on a satellite photo. Here is you plausible deniability sir ! Would you like some wine with it ?
Macron do shit by threatening to all put Europeans at war …alone.
Someone with that attitude surely was not given all the clues for a long life… even if he’s in fact bluffing big time.

Posted by: Savonarole | Mar 11 2024 17:04 utc | 256

@ Eighthman | Mar 11 2024 16:49 utc | 256
If it’s just rumors about talks among unnamable 404 officers about a possible coup . . . well, wake me when the tanks (if 404 has any to spare) start rolling toward Bankova.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 11 2024 17:07 utc | 257

Eighthman@256
My guess, based on the reported factions discussing this, is that Zalushny was protecting these people, not sending them to the front, and Zirsky sent their units to Avdeevka and other hot spots. Thus the dissatisfaction.
The general tenor of discussions about NATO states involvement, Taurus missiles, France and Moldova, citizens resisting recruiters in Ukraine, destruction of Patriot AD and Abrahms tanks are signs of the end game taking shape.
Putin will be affirmed as President of Russia within a week. Then, within a month or so, Russia will start a new push as the weather changes, the remaining ready reserves are worn down, and the eastern defensive line is broken. The west will then need to put up or go home.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 11 2024 17:19 utc | 258

I can hear stuff cooking off (secondary detonations) in Khelmynsky videos, and the flash isn’t as bright/big as a nuke blast would produce, unless they’ve changed since I was little. …
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 11 2024 13:49 utc | 238

There’s information about DU being flammable (“… DU self-ignites when exposed to temperatures of 600° to 700° and high pressures …”) but I can’t find a caloric value for this type of exothermic oxidisation. There are crazy calories quoted for uranium but that’s under nuclear fission rather than oxidisation (combustion).
The Khelmynsky explosion is certainly massive, perhaps a thousand tons of conventional explosives plus added combustion energy from DU that was ignited by the attendant temperature and pressure.
If anyone here knows how to calculate a comparable caloric value for the pyrophoric oxidisation of DU that would be great =)

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 11 2024 17:19 utc | 259

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 11 2024 11:32 utc | 224
What is this supposed to show me other than that you have collected video urls?
AND the comparison video about 1 kt — unclear and very short
already the first video in your list shows that you are — as always — lying twisting ….
because you are “complaining” about the lack of secondary explosions. see–> Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Feb 28 2024 22:45 utc | 59

As you can see, it consists of lots of separate caches, many of them isolated from each other with earthen embankments. That kind of configuration does not explode all at once like that, even if it did hold a couple thousand tons of ammunition, it is a series of secondary explosions.

from the video description:
“…This is probably the biggest explosion of the entire Ukrainian war, The Khmelnytskyi depot must’ve had a massive amount of fuel/ammunition for it to have multiple big recurring explosions…”
1. maybe I can recommend another video about a test with 1 kt — longer and clearer
start at 1:45 — Operation Buster-Jangle ( sugar 1,2 kt )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u3xywbrHS8
Nuclear Test Film Highlights – Restored Footage, New Films, Epic Explosions
2. maybe you should check the post from b about the
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/05/ukraine-sitrep-explosion-in-khmelnytsky-bakhmut-evacuation-longer-range-missiles.html
there you can see a satellite imgage AFTER the attack and compare it with your imagination
3. maybe you should try videos about fuel/gas or chemical explosions
Video shows huge fireball after massive gas explosion in Nairobi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovsO9WorWRc
Terrifying footage emerges of Romania gas station explosions | 9 News Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWqtQi3HSf4
Destroyed in Seconds- Chemical Plant Explosion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KuGizBjDXo

Posted by: ghiwen | Mar 11 2024 17:38 utc | 260

Shadowtroll entertains the notion that a nuke has already been used quietly without making alarms all over the world going off. You know, the tech which had been there since 60s.
Basically says everything about his intelligence and grasp of basics.

Posted by: averros | Mar 11 2024 17:48 utc | 261

Reflecting back on the sinking of the Russian cruiser Moskova (commissioned 1983, cost estimated 750 million USD) and the British troubles with their $3b Prince of Wales aircraft carrier (commissioned 2017) that is unable to perform basic duties without propeller issues and fires, I think highlights the problems with large warships. They are expensive to build and maintain and are vulnerable to inexpensive weapons. The Moskova reportedly had old fire control systems that had not been upgraded when the boat underwent modernization in the 20 teens intended to keep her fit for service – perhaps due to costs and/or corruption. She had a relatively long service life, but in the end was inadequately prepared to handle the damage sustained- whether from accident, sabotage, or missile strikes. The British ship has no reasonable excuse not to be sea worthy. The Russian aircraft carrier also has suffered sea worthiness issues I believe.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 11 2024 17:52 utc | 262

Beirut explosion could also be given as an example, but I suppose it was the result of a tactical nuke. As was probably the explosion of the AZF chemical plant in Toulouse in 2001.
Joking.

Posted by: scc | Mar 11 2024 17:59 utc | 263

How to explain the situation on universities. Even 20 years ago, not to.mention 50 years ago, Academia and universities were far more critical regarding the imperialism but now the educated are content capitalist servents. How has that happened?
Even the state actor. We remmber France voting against US intervention in Iraq. Now we see that France is eager to fight the Russians.

Posted by: vargas | Mar 11 2024 18:00 utc | 264

Averros.
It’s worst than that.
Pretending that RF has already used nuke while blaming RF for not having used nukes is totally skizophrenic.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 11 2024 18:08 utc | 265

vargas | Mar 11 2024 18:00 utc | 265
The intertwining of the EU with NATO, and the American push to expand NATO and install rusophobic politicians in key governments, have completely warped the political class tied to Brussels. The US and EU money has proved so corrupting that members of the political class completely ignore national interests and the welfare of their constituents in favor of harebrained schemes like decommissioning nuclear plants, destroying NS2, and attacking Russia.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 11 2024 18:32 utc | 266

Any comment on coup rumors? Also reported on Sputnik
Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 11 2024 16:49 utc | 256
If such an event is being planned.
This isn’t how we will hear about it.
It’ll be done and dusted.
One way or the other.
Then we’ll get the story.
After the fact.

Posted by: jpc | Mar 11 2024 18:35 utc | 267

Regarding massive conventional weapons explosion, I found this on YouTube, dated 1965, 500 t TNT explosion test: https://youtu.be/hkoBwFYitlU?si=j4f_VcS44cqCJHOh
Now, irrespective of the videos, should Russia have used a tactical nuke, I see zero chance for it not being in the front page of all aligned press publications at that time.

Posted by: scc | Mar 11 2024 18:58 utc | 268

There’s information about DU being flammable (“… DU self-ignites when exposed to temperatures of 600° to 700° and high pressures …”) but I can’t find a caloric value for this type of exothermic oxidisation. There are crazy calories quoted for uranium but that’s under nuclear fission rather than oxidisation (combustion).
Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 11 2024 17:19 utc | 260

About 1000 kJ/mol

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 11 2024 19:03 utc | 269

… and the British troubles with their $3b Prince of Wales aircraft carrier (commissioned 2017) that is unable to perform basic duties without propeller issues and fires, … The British ship has no reasonable excuse not to be sea worthy. …
Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 11 2024 17:52 utc | 263

Perhaps it was seaworthy but vulnerable to modern weapons and too inviting a target given the UK’s provocative role in this latest round of global conflicts. Certainly the technical problems are plausible enough, they’d have to be even if they were fictitious, but the fact remains that the loss of reputation from having it sunk would be far greater than the manageable embarrassment in which it currently exist.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 11 2024 19:07 utc | 270

Someone figured it out. How is NATO going to get out of the Ukraine mess and save face? NATO is going to claim that they were able to “contain” Russia in Ukraine. And all is well.

Posted by: Leroy | Mar 11 2024 19:23 utc | 271

… (uranium combustion) About 1000 kJ/mol
Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 11 2024 19:03 utc | 270

Thanks for that. Looks like iron thermite is about 825 kJ/mol so similar energy liberated for a given mass.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 11 2024 19:25 utc | 272

Russia should be deploying FAB10000’s already
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240311/fab-1500-the-russian-air-dropped-bomb-tilting-the-balance-against-ukraine-1117261769.html

Posted by: gT | Mar 11 2024 19:50 utc | 273

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 11 2024 17:19 utc | 260
Pretty sure that a nuclear explosion, whether fission or fusion, would ignite everything in the vicinity – you wouldn’t hear stuff cooking off after, because it would have already gone.
Uranium, IIRC, at high temperature will not explode but will burn furiously, like magnesium.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 11 2024 19:57 utc | 274

Not spectacular footage, just a long distance pan showing four smoke plumes already in the air. Interesting because it apparently shows that not only are small positions now being FABed but they are being spotted and then hit simultaneously rather than hitting one and having enemy forces relocate to compensate.
https://t.me/remylind21/16046

🇺🇦 Our air force attacks enemy positions in the landing areas between the villages of Pobeda and Georgievka with FAB-250 bombs from the UMPC.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 11 2024 19:58 utc | 275

Posted by: gT | Mar 11 2024 19:50 utc | 274
It would need a hell of a fighter/bomber to carry 10 tons.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 11 2024 20:00 utc | 276

The smo is no ww3, ww2 or ww1. They did not lie, it’s a little police action, and even something that simple was badly prepared. Anyway, the +500k natokazes were erased with little effort and without moving outside Donbass. Kiev is as good as new because it’s still smo, but no one promised that peace automatically comes after smo.
Posted by: rk | Mar 10 2024 21:42 utc | 88
No WWIII ? Kiev Ukrainian deaths exceed the deaths of either UK or USA in WWII I think. So if we use pain, loss, suffering as a metric I think it qualifies.

Posted by: arthur brogard | Mar 11 2024 20:03 utc | 277

and he gave an answer that was thoughtful and well written regardless of whether or not it’s accurate.
Posted by: Afro | Mar 11 2024 14:51 utc | 243
It was long and wordy.
But, what was his answer to your question, what should Russia do about Albania?
I saw a lot of ” this is messed up”, “that is messed up”, “Turkey might do this”, “Iran might do that”, and “Azerbaijan might do this”, and “Russia really messed up on handling Armenia”, but he does not get into specifics of how Russia mishandled it.
And he never actually answers the question, “What should Russia do about Armenia?”
So, first of all, how has Putin handled it? He basically withdrew Russian aegis, and let Azerbaijan have their way with Armenia. Intervening only with a small peacekeeping force.
Azerbaijan now holds Nagorno Karabakh. Armenia went pro-west, now they got it.
Putin did the best he could. There is no real need for him to continue to shield a hostile Armenia.
If both turks and armenians are hostile, why take a side in the conflict. Let Armenia get what ot wants, and get it good and hard.
And continue to quietly woo the Turks.
Who chose S400s over f35s?
I answered your question, now perhaps that I praised Putin, he will come up with an answer, but I doubt it. Because, as I said, soft power is difficult to defeat.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 11 2024 20:22 utc | 278

If Shadowbanned was an intelligence operation he wouldn’t be a Covid and climate change affirmer
Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 11 2024 14:26 utc | 240

Agree totally. SB is a genuine Branch Covidian fruitcake. Nobody would pay for his self defeating word output.

Posted by: Drifter | Mar 11 2024 20:23 utc | 279

*sigh* Armenia, not Albania.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 11 2024 20:23 utc | 280

Re: Big Ships
Ships require extraordinary upkeep from highly skilled blue collar types. Suspect there is a shortage of such skills these days.

Posted by: Exile | Mar 11 2024 20:23 utc | 281

Could be wrong but seems to me that a widely used aircraft to launch FAB250 (SU 34?) can carry four at a time. For the larger bombs, only two at a time, which is why they are often seen going off in pairs.

Posted by: Mike R | Mar 11 2024 20:30 utc | 282

Could be wrong but seems to me that a widely used aircraft to launch FAB250 (SU 34?) can carry four at a time. For the larger bombs, only two at a time, which is why they are often seen going off in pairs.

Posted by: Mike R | Mar 11 2024 20:31 utc | 283

hopehely @ 137
If there were a critical auditor watching over the budget you have a god point.
However. They have lots of money in lots of pockets. They are paranoid. Excessive supervision of those not totally on narrative has gone on a long time.
The universe of non-narrative sites in English is fairly small.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 11 2024 20:43 utc | 284

Chief Nerd
@TheChiefNerd
David Sacks Says Ukraine is ‘Biden’s Big Backfire’
“If you look at all his claims at the beginning of the war, they’ve all come true in reverse. He said that we would weaken Russia in order to prevent them from waging this type of war again. In fact, we’ve made the Russian military stronger…What we’ve done is really leading to the demographic death of this country.”
https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1766848566444597251

Posted by: Menz | Mar 11 2024 20:52 utc | 285

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 11 2024 11:32 utc | 224
This is what a tactical nuke detonation looks like
https://youtu.be/goMNAxFqGbk?si=TV8hRorjWWFJDJ5W&t=35
Note the blinding flash brighter than the sun … that’s the telltale sign of a nuclear explosion. Any big explosion creates a mushroom cloud and the colour of the fireball is an indication of the elements that were burning. Lithium and strontium burn with a red flame, calcium burns orange for example.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 11 2024 20:52 utc | 286

Posted by: arthur brogard | Mar 11 2024 20:03 utc | 278
That is the result of nato “strategy”. If attacks stop, so will their deaths. Remember Lemmings the game? Like that, but those were cute, these are not. 500k are the good times, the smo times. When smo ends, crying will start

Posted by: rk | Mar 11 2024 20:56 utc | 287

Posted by: Mike R | Mar 11 2024 20:31 utc | 284
If the SEAD missions continue taking out the high-lo altitude systems then Tu-22m’s can be used as FAB platforms. The Russians problem is that they have no dedicated EW aircraft that can accompany their strike packages, IIRC the Yak-28 was their Cold-War variant but was discontinued. Russia never thought it could achieve anything but temporary air dominance in certain sectors, during the Cold-War, preferring to rely on AD systems and rocketry as substitutes. Again, a legacy that has come back during the SMO to restrict Russia’s ability to exploit their air-dominance, but in Ukraine’s case to undermine their hybrid East/West doctrine and limit its operational capabilities.
Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 11 2024 17:52 utc | 263
The Moskva (ex-Slava class) was a disaster waiting to happen, see my comment on another thread on the Russian habit of taking the ‘eggshells with hammers’ concept of modern warship design to the extreme. Virtually any hit on that platform will cause a serious fire that is likely to become catastrophic, and I very much doubt replacing the out-dated equipment for the damage control teams was a top budgetary concern.

Posted by: Ilites | Mar 11 2024 21:11 utc | 288

NATO must continue to support Kiev so it can negotiate with Moscow about becoming an independent state, the US-led bloc’s secretary-general, Jens Stoltenberg, said on Monday.

is stoltenberg really this stupid? so in essence it should return to what it was before nato instigated the maidan putsh (unconstitutional per ukraines then constitution)?
is this man a sick f*cking joke?

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 11 2024 21:12 utc | 289

Posted by: Mario | Mar 11 2024 20:00 utc | 277
Strike Eagle, over 10,000 kg of ordnance.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 11 2024 21:14 utc | 290

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 11 2024 20:52 utc | 287
In the 80’s the Confederate Airforce (fly vintage planes) simulated the mushroom cloud from the first A-Bomb with a large explosion, quite a few residents panicked when they saw it. Anyone who thinks the strike on the logistics hub was a nuke knows next to nothing about how those weapons operate or their unique signatures.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 11 2024 21:22 utc | 291

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 11 2024 11:32 utc | 224
This is what a tactical nuke detonation looks like
https://youtu.be/goMNAxFqGbk?si=TV8hRorjWWFJDJ5W&t=35
Note the blinding flash brighter than the sun … that’s the telltale sign of a nuclear explosion. Any big explosion creates a mushroom cloud and the colour of the fireball is an indication of the elements that were burning. Lithium and strontium burn with a red flame, calcium burns orange for example.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 11 2024 20:52 utc | 287

That’s 15 kt, same as Hiroshima, and it was an airburst too.
The Khmelnytskyi explosions are likely 1-2 kt each.
Also note that back in the second half of May, if you recall (and if you don’t you can go back), I was in a much better mood here. Because the Kremlin had finally enforced a red line — they publicly said the DU shells will be treated as a radiological attack, and then not just destroyed them, but did it this way.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 11 2024 21:29 utc | 292

Posted by: Milites | Mar 11 2024 21:14 utc | 291
Yes, but just one hypothetical fab 10000.
Way better to load 10 fab1000 or 6 fab1500.
By the way su35 load 8000.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 11 2024 21:31 utc | 293

is this man a sick f*cking joke?
Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 11 2024 21:12 utc | 290
Certainly not him, but he is convinced that his audience is nothing else. With a budget of 1,000 billion behind you, you can say anything, whether they believe you or not – completely irrelevant to the speaker of the might.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Mar 11 2024 21:33 utc | 294

If the SEAD missions continue taking out the high-lo altitude systems then Tu-22m’s can be used as FAB platforms. The Russians problem is that they have no dedicated EW aircraft that can accompany their strike packages, IIRC the Yak-28 was their Cold-War variant but was discontinued. Russia never thought it could achieve anything but temporary air dominance in certain sectors, during the Cold-War, preferring to rely on AD systems and rocketry as substitutes. Again, a legacy that has come back during the SMO to restrict Russia’s ability to exploit their air-dominance, but in Ukraine’s case to undermine their hybrid East/West doctrine and limit its operational capabilities.
Posted by: Ilites | Mar 11 2024 21:11 utc | 289

That can be said about a lot of things. The overall Russian posture was purely defensive, except for the doomsday weapons that give it a degree of first-strike capability, but we are talking conventional war here.
Nobody intended to fight a large-scale conventional war of conquest, it was all about defending from a NATO attack. Thus things like KABs (the purpose-designed glide bombs, not UMPK kits) existing, but not being produced in big numbers (and, as it turns out, not being really scalable either), neglecting the surface navy, quite consciously not investing in UCAVs, and countless others.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 11 2024 21:36 utc | 295

Interesting discussion today about the Vietnam and the Ukraine comparison………
While the USAF committed huge tactical resources in the period 1965 to 1975, to severing the Ho Chi Minh Trail supply lines through Laos with the B52’s and their massive Rolling Thunder airstrikes (the USAF dropping more bomb tonnage on the trail than the USAAF dropped on Japan during WWII), the fact is that these strikes only temporarily inconvenienced the NVA logistics train effort.
The only realistic strategic solution to that issue, advocated by several members of the US Army General Staff planners at the time was to extend the DMZ westward through Laos to the junction with Mekong River. Obviously this huge effort by army combat engineer and navy seabee units would have been contested vigorously by the NVA. Using Rome Plow D9 Cat Combat Bulldozers supported by US and ARVN airpower and ground forces, cutting the DMZ to the Mekong would have established a defined defense line and effectively cut the trail supply chain. Additionally, USN River Gunboats would have been extended to patrol the river to extend defensive and repress infiltration of troops and supplies.
LBJ and Nixon’s incremental approach of the airstrikes offensive had no chance to succeed………….
RF’s need is to prevent the UFA and NATO from establishing large portions of the Dneiper as part of a dedicated defense line, a de-facto DMZ. Thus, at some point the SMO needs to turn into a maneuver war in order to prevent this DMZ frozen front, an outcome NATO would adore. Patience is required, but the time for a large maneuver Big Arrow operation could close at hand…stay tuned…..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Mar 11 2024 21:43 utc | 296

Posted by: Menz | Mar 11 2024 20:52 utc | 286
This is the ‘Looking Glass War’, an exercise in the gaslighting and projection that the ‘elites’ have used for decades to enact their globalist agenda, trouble is the tried it on Russia, with a more than competent leader. Rather like Mussolini thinking that because he defeated Abyssinia (with the help of WMD) they could take on Greece!

Posted by: Milites | Mar 11 2024 21:54 utc | 297

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 11 2024 21:36 utc | 296
Yeah, those Tank Armies of the GFSG were purely defensive, I mean: their tanks couldn’t depress their gun barrels to take advantage of hull down positions, were trained to overwhelm defences in a series of armoured fists, were accompanied by highly mobile AD protection, and aggressive air assaults and all their armour maximised frontal protection, at the expense of other arcs, but it was all purely defensive, honest!

Posted by: Milites | Mar 11 2024 22:05 utc | 298

That is simply not true. US do not hide what they do, they are intimately involved, and they are too full of themselves not to brag about it.
Posted by: boneless | Mar 11 2024 10:37 utc | 215
The US is open about its support of a proxy, but it has not sent actual US troops, flying American colors openly, to fight Russia. Until it does, their involvement is still defined as a proxy war.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 11 2024 22:14 utc | 299

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Mar 11 2024 21:43 utc | 297
Mine Haiphong harbour, and aggressively interdict the rail yards where the supplies originated. The war ends in less than a year, but they couldn’t due to the fact that the predicted the fall-out in international relations would have had worse consequences than potentially losing in SE Asia. A restrictor that some posters, who advocate Putin adopting a similar strategy to ‘nuking them till they glow, then shoot them in the dark’, forget. Nations are not islands, Russia’s little talked about strategic success is how it has managed the SMO’s public relations, beyond the increasingly depleted true-believers, or LIV’s in the West.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 11 2024 22:14 utc | 300