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March 7, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-071
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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@ Honzo | Mar 7 2024 20:29 utc | 85
It appears that EU committing an unintentional not-so-honorable seppuku at prospects of plundering someone else’s wealth has been skewing appearance of the so-called-West’s competence. However brilliant the look of tricking near greed-lobotomized EU “leaders” is, while one might argue which goal is more important, it was not the only goal. Every policy directed at crushing Russian Federation economically, diplomatically and militarily has been a spectacular failure, backfiring and galore of impotent flailing. Posted by: boneless | Mar 7 2024 21:30 utc | 101 geoff chambers | Mar 7 2024 21:03 utc | 92 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 7 2024 21:30 utc | 102 unimperator | Mar 7 2024 21:04 utc | 93 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2024 21:35 utc | 103 @ rk | Mar 7 2024 21:14 utc | 95 Posted by: boneless | Mar 7 2024 21:41 utc | 104 Posted by: boneless | Mar 7 2024 21:30 utc | 98 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 7 2024 21:44 utc | 105 2014 Russia said “enough is enough” “if not Assad them who?” and helped them get their civil war under control against the USA’s wishes. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 7 2024 21:48 utc | 106 Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 7 2024 16:23 utc | 17 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 7 2024 21:48 utc | 107 but struggle with crossing unprotected fields because of constant surveillance and drone attack. Problem is there are a lot of unprotected fields in Ukraine Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 7 2024 21:54 utc | 108 Interesting reflections, attributed to Molotov, on the future structure of the Iron Curtain countries argued that eastern European countries under communism should be modelled on the Soviet Union, with its Soviet Socialist Republics (SSRs) and Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics (ASSRs). Perhaps the intention was that they would all eventually unite. Posted by: John Marks | Mar 7 2024 21:59 utc | 109 Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 18:19 utc 40 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 7 2024 22:07 utc | 110 Is U.S. planning something that will make Russia angry?
Posted by: MiniMO | Mar 7 2024 22:08 utc | 111 DunGroanin | Mar 7 2024 20:27 utc | 83 Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 7 2024 22:24 utc | 112 The comments on the Carlson Friedman clip. Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 7 2024 22:29 utc | 113 @shadowebaned 46 Posted by: Sam | Mar 7 2024 22:29 utc | 114 Jake Blanchard | Mar 7 2024 21:48 utc | 104 Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 7 2024 22:39 utc | 115 CRAZY: Military recruiters want to mobilize a lumberjack from a horse in Chernivtsi, but his buddy arrives in Lada and crashes into the recruiters! Posted by: unimperator | Mar 7 2024 22:39 utc | 116 No territory gains (latest Dima report). Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 7 2024 22:40 utc | 117 If it’s escalating and there is place in Germany to be wiped is Munich most of the snakes are in there. Posted by: Innuendo | Mar 7 2024 22:44 utc | 118 It is shameful that Russia has no ability to destroy Ukro electric network and production. Posted by: vargas | Mar 7 2024 22:44 utc | 119 @ vargas | Mar 7 2024 22:44 utc | 116
It is nice for straight up neo-cons to visit from time to time. Posted by: boneless | Mar 7 2024 22:48 utc | 120 @vargas its only shamfull for the west: the west is the pest. im glad You have nothing to say in .ru strategies @ Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 7 2024 22:24 utc | 109 Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 7 2024 23:03 utc | 122 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 7 2024 21:04 utc | 93 Posted by: Milites | Mar 7 2024 23:04 utc | 123 Posted by: Milites | Mar 7 2024 23:04 utc | 120 Posted by: James M. | Mar 7 2024 23:27 utc | 124 “As per the 7 times population discrepancy between the western alliance and Russia, there is an even larger industrial output discrepancy. No I’m not saying Russia makes nothing and is just a gas station, but if you put together Japan and SK and Germany and the USA and France and Italy so on and so forth yes they produce a lot more than Russia. It’s not just non-gendered bathrooms and derivatives in the West. Posted by: kupkee | Mar 7 2024 23:28 utc | 125 Winners and Losers in Ukraine – The only real winner so far is the USA! Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 7 2024 23:52 utc | 126 About Emmanuel Todd’s new book, theory. “La Chute de l’Occident” (“The Fall of the West”) he has a radical analysis of Western policy in Ukraine. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 8 2024 0:14 utc | 127 Yesterday’s daylight Odessa strike with an Islanders while Zelensky was hanging around, immediately followed by Russia releasing drone footage of him in Kherson circa late summer 23 was a reminder. Zelensky lives at the pleasure of the Kremlin. Posted by: Lex | Mar 8 2024 0:20 utc | 128
@Dungroanin 83 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 8 2024 0:23 utc | 129 Where do you think the line of control will be by December? Do you think Russia will topple the Kiev government, secure a new long term security treaty with Ukraine and achieve it’s SMO goals this year? If not when? Posted by: James M. | Mar 8 2024 0:24 utc | 130 James M. | Mar 8 2024 0:24 utc | 127 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 8 2024 0:51 utc | 131 ^^^^ Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 8 2024 0:51 utc | 128 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 8 2024 0:53 utc | 132 @123 Posted by: GW | Mar 8 2024 1:04 utc | 133 The US/NATO are not in any way scared of Moscow or their nukes. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 8 2024 1:07 utc | 134
That is correct. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 8 2024 1:08 utc | 135 Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 8 2024 1:08 utc | 132 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 8 2024 1:20 utc | 136 Dear bar fly writers: Posted by: Hot Carl | Mar 8 2024 1:29 utc | 137 . They can’t lose but … they will not achieve their goals unless something massively changes in their approach. The US/NATO are not in any way scared of Moscow or their nukes. This is how it looks to me at present. Posted by: James M. | Mar 8 2024 1:38 utc | 138
People here, in their triumphalist assured belief in the inevitable, in fact already achieved victory of Russia over the globohomo evil, are not following events on the ground. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 8 2024 1:38 utc | 139 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 8 2024 1:20 utc | 133 Posted by: James M. | Mar 8 2024 1:47 utc | 140 but I think the stakes are too high for Russia to lose. I think Ukraine is more important for Russia than it is for the West, so the West will blink first. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2024 1:48 utc | 141
Only partially true. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 8 2024 1:50 utc | 142
What exactly was dead end about it? Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 8 2024 1:53 utc | 143 Some videos for today. Posted by: Nate | Mar 8 2024 1:56 utc | 144 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2024 1:48 utc | 138 Posted by: James M. | Mar 8 2024 1:58 utc | 145 the Kremlin had placed a veto on striking all sorts of strategic Ukrainian industry and infrastructure (got to protect oligarch’s business interests after all), and it is clearly still in place for a long list of objects… Posted by: UWDude | Mar 8 2024 2:01 utc | 146 The West tricked them into thinking that if they destroy communism and become capitalists, they will be allowed into the club. Well, they weren’t. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 8 2024 2:12 utc | 147 shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:22 utc | 43 @Vargas 116 Posted by: Sam | Mar 8 2024 2:35 utc | 149 “Though it would good to hear what others think objectively and realistically at this point in time, 2 years in. Without any biased hyperbole. Cheers” Posted by: MikeB | Mar 8 2024 2:43 utc | 150 One more thing, they restored the water supply to Crimea. Posted by: MikeB | Mar 8 2024 2:46 utc | 151 Carlson delivers a master class in speaking foolishness from a place of absolute ignorance. Posted by: Honzo | Mar 8 2024 3:03 utc | 152 Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 16:55 utc | 21 Posted by: Analyst | Mar 8 2024 3:04 utc | 153 I beg to differ. When Ukraine falls, US/NATO will most definitely have suffered a defeat. Posted by: Honzo | Mar 8 2024 3:13 utc | 154 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 7 2024 23:52 utc | 123 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 8 2024 3:21 utc | 155 Ukraine is just a battle. To understand the war you have to be familiar with Dugin in Russia and Vigano in Europe. Both men are popular with Front Nationale in France, for instance. The farmers protests in Europe is another battle. Posted by: MikeB | Mar 8 2024 3:21 utc | 156 A verified Nazi supporting ukrop general goes to the court of st James. Posted by: Honzo | Mar 8 2024 3:27 utc | 157 ” Zionist media love’s to highlight the stupid idiots of America that subscribe to the hip hop braindead its-all-about-me culture. Because thats what they WANT you to think White America is. You draw your own conclusions, but I see a sea of intelligent, moral, highly capable, thoroughly creative, and strong people that are completely dismissed.” Posted by: MikeB | Mar 8 2024 3:32 utc | 158 US is good at making EU look like the ones coming up with all those policies, but all of it is the US’ command and direction. Hardly a sign of “the perfect grand plan” some progressively come to describe it as. Posted by: Honzo | Mar 8 2024 3:40 utc | 159 Tucker isn’t ignorant, he’s a fucking CIA asset. Get a clue. Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 8 2024 3:56 utc | 160 “Ukrainian tank unit near front lines doesn’t fire for three days” Posted by: WMG | Mar 8 2024 3:58 utc | 161 Posted by: Honzo | Mar 8 2024 3:27 utc | 154 Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 8 2024 4:01 utc | 162 Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 16:55 utc | 21 Posted by: snake | Mar 8 2024 4:14 utc | 163 Simplicius has new article out. Posted by: Surferket | Mar 8 2024 4:54 utc | 164 Well that’s ruined my dawn cuppa tea. Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 8 2024 5:16 utc | 165 bevin 27: MK Bhadrakumar has an original take on the Nuland resignation. If he is right Nuland was a ‘moderate’ by comparison with mad Joe Biden who prevented her from reviving the Minsk process in which, according to Bhadrakumar, she was strongly invested. Posted by: md | Mar 8 2024 5:30 utc | 166 Easy times for recruitment is long gone. Merely 20% of set quotas are filled at this point. Rising casualties on the front due to low training, low morale, shortage of weapons and ammo (any kind of support weapons).
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 8 2024 6:10 utc | 167 Tucker isn’t ignorant, he’s a fucking CIA asset. Get a clue. Posted by: James M. | Mar 8 2024 6:16 utc | 168 eg The West’s (Ukraine) defeat will have the exact same geostrategic effects as if US/NATO had “given in” to Russia’s demands before, or at any point during, the war. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 8 2024 6:22 utc | 169 Simplicius has become intolerable with his constant self-promotion. “Just as I predicted,” “As I’ve told you many times,” “Recall that I forecast,” “I was the first to note this.” What does he want, a gold star? It’s gotten demonstrably worse in recent months. The trait is an easy “tell” of a person’s American upbringing and/or significant exposure to American advertising culture, and this guy has it practically tattooed on his forehead. Somewhere in his psyche is a fundamental insecurity about his self-worth. His articles remind me of Yves Smith’s at Naked Capitalism, constantly proclaiming genius in authorship, one of the primary reasons I removed NC from my bookmarks. Furthermore, the bulk of his content is simply newspaper clippings from the dying, delusional West, mainly in service to the points he makes, but to read those clippings is to poison one’s brain. Combined with his excess verbosity, it’s become a chore and a bore to read his writing. Posted by: Matthew | Mar 8 2024 6:23 utc | 170 The fatal assumption of these ‘inevitable decline scenarios’ are that they always use basic forms of trend analysis which, whilst useful, never takes into account historical events which have radically changed those trends. Posted by: too scents | Mar 8 2024 6:30 utc | 171
https://t.me/rezident_ua/21941 Posted by: Down South | Mar 8 2024 6:37 utc | 172
Posted by: Down South | Mar 8 2024 6:40 utc | 173
https://t.me/rezident_ua/21942
https://t.me/rezident_ua/21944 Posted by: Down South | Mar 8 2024 6:53 utc | 174
https://t.me/rezident_ua/21943 Posted by: Down South | Mar 8 2024 6:56 utc | 175 Combined with his excess verbosity, it’s become a chore and a bore to read his writing. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 8 2024 7:19 utc | 176 Posted by: Lex | Mar 8 2024 0:20 utc | 125 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 8 2024 7:22 utc | 177 You are, once again, expertly proficient at “forgetting” quotes. Posted by: rk | Mar 8 2024 7:39 utc | 178 HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 16:55 utc | 21 Posted by: Liquefaction | Mar 8 2024 7:44 utc | 179
See, this is what people in the West, even many in this forum here, don’t understand. Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 8 2024 8:06 utc | 180
Posted by: Down South | Mar 8 2024 8:06 utc | 181 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 8 2024 6:10 utc | 164 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 8 2024 8:41 utc | 182 Shadowbanned is telling the truth. Most of the people do not like truth but to follow the narrative. Posted by: vargas | Mar 8 2024 8:42 utc | 183 Shadowbanned is telling the truth. Most of the people do not like truth but to follow the narrative. Posted by: vargas | Mar 8 2024 8:42 utc | 184 Posted by: boneless | Mar 7 2024 21:30 utc | 98 Posted by: jpc | Mar 8 2024 8:49 utc | 185 The EU got suckered into a war meant to isolate them from Russia, China and Iran, and possibly ME oil in general, because aside from a few key minions in on the plan, they thought the war was meant to overthrow Putin and break up Russia. Woops. Posted by: arthur brogard | Mar 8 2024 9:02 utc | 186 Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 7 2024 22:39 utc | 112 Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 8 2024 9:45 utc | 187 Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 8 2024 1:38 utc | 136 Posted by: Mario | Mar 8 2024 9:46 utc | 188 In watching the noises coming out of UK, the Brits will be desperate to get US back into the war against Russia before the US election. US deep state most likely split but seem to be backing Trump for war on China. The Brits will no doubt be working with the Biden faction of the deep state, as with the Steele dossier. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2024 10:08 utc | 189 Hey Shadowbanned! Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 8 2024 10:19 utc | 190 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2024 10:08 utc | 186 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 8 2024 10:22 utc | 191 The Dogs Dinner 2/5. Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 8 2024 10:25 utc | 192 @ rk | Mar 8 2024 7:39 utc | 175 Posted by: boneless | Mar 8 2024 10:29 utc | 193 3/5 Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 8 2024 10:46 utc | 194 unimperator | Mar 8 2024 10:22 utc | 188 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2024 10:56 utc | 195 4/5 Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 8 2024 11:01 utc | 196 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2024 10:56 utc | 192 Posted by: Mario | Mar 8 2024 11:12 utc | 197 5/5 Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 8 2024 11:17 utc | 198 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 8 2024 | 186 and 192 Posted by: snake | Mar 8 2024 11:25 utc | 199 What is needed to end Ukraine war is just to shut down gas transit thru Ukraine for a single month. Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 8 2024 11:26 utc | 200 |
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