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March 7, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-071

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Only 820 Ukrainian losses today, which is a reduction. Five Tanks though.
https://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12503601@egNews#txt

Posted by: Lantern Dude | Mar 7 2024 14:17 utc | 1

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/103327

🇷🇺 Residents of Avdeevka reported the places from where the Ukrainian Armed Forces shelled Donetsk to Russian investigators. They also talk about war crimes committed by Ukrainian militants and name the call signs of those involved.
This was reported by the press service of the Investigative Committee following a meeting held by the head of the department, Bastrykin, in the capital of the DPR.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 7 2024 14:32 utc | 2

Forgiven debutantes and dignitaries still flock to the Ukraine…..it’s a war zone, what guarantees do they have that Russia will not kill or injure them……kind of puts the SloJokeMo in perspective. Obviously no fear to go there whatsoever.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 7 2024 14:33 utc | 3

Forgiven, should read Foreign

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 7 2024 14:35 utc | 4

If anyone gets any more info on the very probable attack on Odessa Naval(?) base an hour or two after Zel visited there I would appreciate. There had to be UK casualties. Probably usOfa also.
Slavyangrad has not had the subtitled in English short videos from Yuri Podolyka (https://podolyaka.ru) in quite some time. His 5 minute videos when translated was so succinct and logical. If anyone has knowledge of subtitled videos, I would be so grateful.
Hopefully the usOfa still does not have good numbers on Kinzhal-Dagger production. Let them gnash their teeth on not knowing what capabilities and production RF has hopefully. I know the NSA knows who I am and I do not care. Larimore ND Jan 7 1990 Minuteman III

Posted by: paxmark1 | Mar 7 2024 14:42 utc | 5

Regarding the near miss on Zelensky and the Greek PM, Russia should issue something like this as a statement:
“All of Ukraine is an active warzone. If Western politicians visit any city, Kiev, Odessa, or Lvov, they assume the risk of death and should plan accordingly.”

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 7 2024 14:45 utc | 6

The “disassembled” front in Donbass indicates that Ukraine and NATO are not at all ready for a protracted defense.
Thus, today the Ukrainian line of defense consists of rudimentary earthen fortifications, often with a connecting trench so that infantry can reach the firing positions closest to the enemy – nothing more. And this is a deep mistake in strategic planning that President Zelensky’s Office made, since General Zaluzhny, holding the post of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, called for preparing defensive lines.
As a result, the Ukrainian government is already “reaping the fruits” of its own mistake – the lack of prepared lines of defense results in huge losses in manpower and equipment. At the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have to use reserves up to the Abrams, but they are used ineptly.
By the way, in the West there are also a lot of questions for the Ukrainian authorities, because Kyiv had enough time to dig in properly, since the battles for Avdiivka lasted for more than one month. But that did not happen. As a result, Russian troops covered about six kilometers in a few days, taking control of several settlements.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/21934

Zelensky has finally come to the conclusion that defense lines are needed. The Western press dubbed it this way: dig, dig and dig again.
We have long been informed that Western advisers and the General Staff under Zaluzhny demanded that Zelensky prepare for defense, and not tell tales about the offensive. Also, ex-commander-in-chief Zaluzhny spoke at headquarters about the need to quickly build three lines of defense while there is time and money, and not turn Avdiivka into a meat grinder, as was the case in Bakhmut.
As we can see, Zelensky ignored everything and only now hastily decided to implement this case, where hundreds of corrupt officials and schemers have already stuck.
Let’s see how Zelensky’s strategic mistakes will turn out for the Armed Forces of Ukraine this year.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17404

Our source comments on the information that Zelensky’s headquarters quickly began building defense structures to stop the advance of the Russians.
But, there is one thing. All these fortifications are not suitable against aerial bombs, which are smashed into trash. All fortifications without mobile air defense will not have good results.
Now everyone knows that Ukraine has an air defense deficit.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17405

Posted by: Down South | Mar 7 2024 14:55 utc | 7

​In the West, they are panicking because of Ukraine’s inability to build sensible fortifications.
After the loss of Avdeevka, the AFU were forced to retreat randomly and give up positions. At the same time, attempts to build new fortifications and dig trenches have so far failed.
Carnegie states that Ukraine no longer has fortified areas of the Avdeevka or Bakhmut level in the Donbass. Therefore, the only option for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, experiencing an acute shortage of soldiers and weapons, is a strategic retreat under the pressure of Russia.
Western military experts disagree on Russia’s strategy. Some believe that Russia is now testing the ground in different directions – in Zaporozhye, in Donbass and in Kharkov. With the aim of launching a big spring offensive – where the front will break through.
Others fear a later Russian offensive – in the summer or early autumn, when the situation in the Armed Forces of Ukraine will become even more critical. Now Ukraine has hastily allocated $800 million for the construction of new fortifications. But the AFU soldiers themselves admit that they are forced to dig trenches under constant fire – and the quality of engineering work is extremely low.
The Americans are forcing Kiev to announce a new mobilization as soon as possible. And they demand to explain where 700 thousand soldiers who were registered in the Armed Forces of Ukraine according to papers have gone. Ukrainians are retreating in three directions at once. The front is bursting at the seams – and Washington has begun to prepare for a repeat of the Afghan scenario in Ukraine.

https://t.me/geromanat/22205

Posted by: Down South | Mar 7 2024 14:59 utc | 8

Impressive for a manpad to be able to track and defeat a smallish electric drone with very little heat signature.
https://t.me/Lunay14/15532

ASU-1 Valkyrie shot down in the Kharkov region. A reconnaissance UAV was shot down by a MANPADS crew. From a closed channel.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 7 2024 15:01 utc | 9

https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/460

Everything is obvious to everyone.
And the fact that there was no attack on the motorcade in Odessa.
And if the goal had been set, they would have hit it.
And the fact that the bloody clown is just a cocaine shadow of his master, a blind anti-Russian weapon.
And the fact that, in principle, it does not matter who holds the position of leader of the neo-Nazi regime.
But it’s still somehow annoying.
It’s a pity that they definitely ended up in a pre-planned place. And that His Majesty chance, with its punishing finger, did not decide the fate of the first genital musician differently.
Nullum malum sine aliquo bono!

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 15:06 utc | 10

Massive number of Russian tanks are being killed toady by British supplied drones in south Donbass.
Russia is a laughing stock of this world to which even a 3rd rate country like england shows angry eyes and gets away with it.

Posted by: Sam | Mar 7 2024 15:18 utc | 11

Maybe Zman and the Greeks did lunch under a bridge. Might explain the near miss.
I highly doubt anyone of importance was killed in the strike as USNATO ISR gives plenty of warning of incoming missiles. The air sirens get turned off when Zman is around, or so I have read. I’m guessing, but likely the caterers and janitors got sacrificed.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 7 2024 15:20 utc | 12

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 7 2024 15:20 utc | 12
If it really was an iskander, depending on the launch position, time for living the place could have been very short.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 7 2024 15:29 utc | 13

Zelensky is going to go down as the worst wartime leader since Saddam Hussein.
He’s sending reserves into a hopeless slaughter in Robotyne. The town is half captured by Russia and being flanked. He’s probably reached the verifiable insane status as he is seeking political victories at the cost of military ones.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 7 2024 15:29 utc | 14

The below video isn’t so much about the U.S. Trump/MAGA reality, it is about the dismantling of the core of American Industrial Capacity as foundational/national jobs are wiped out to enrich the Uber Caste.
That is the reason the U.S. and the West cannot compete with Russia.
A divided nation with no Industrial Base could never win a Heavy Weight Title. No matter how big the Megaphone is.
Batya Ungar-Sargon Explains The MAGA Philosophy That The Left Can’t Understand (rumble.com)

Posted by: kupkee | Mar 7 2024 15:33 utc | 15

11
massive penis attack by a jewish piano clown?
Uuuuuu
Cry me a river

Posted by: SlowSoft | Mar 7 2024 15:42 utc | 16

From the previous thread:

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/103572
🇷🇺 The head of the IAEA Grossi met with Putin today.
Peskov described the meeting as constructive.
Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 7 2024 11:26 utc | 253

And there we have it.
Capitulation.
When Grossi was poncing around ZapNPP, he called by to see the kokeklown of Kiev. Didn’t bother with the Russians, other than to gain access, and marvel at their capacity to fire missiles at themselves from Ukrainian positions.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 7 2024 16:23 utc | 17

Lantern Dude
Only 820 losses today. Only. Lol. But I get what you mean though.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Mar 7 2024 16:40 utc | 18

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 7 2024 14:33 utc | 3

So the strategy for winning the largest war in Europe in a half century that is gutting the economies of the West and upending the established world order is a ‘joke’?
In reality the Russian calculus is proving to be demonstratably superior to Western back of napkin plans and naked hubris. Russian strategy is winning, on all cylinders, while the other side has to nurse their bitterness and cheer minor tactical losses as they are too invested in their disastrous bet to admit the obvious…all their schemes failed.
Fuck around and find out on a global geopolitical scale. These weird takes are why I often skip your posts. Cheers.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 7 2024 16:42 utc | 19

Massive number of Russian tanks are being killed toady by British supplied drones in south Donbass.

Yep and I also personally shot down 100 SU-25s. With my dick. Beat that, Ukra-patsies.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 7 2024 16:45 utc | 20

The below video isn’t so much about the U.S. Trump/MAGA reality, it is about the dismantling of the core of American Industrial Capacity as foundational/national jobs are wiped out to enrich the Uber Caste.
That is the reason the U.S. and the West cannot compete with Russia.
A divided nation with no Industrial Base could never win a Heavy Weight Title. No matter how big the Megaphone is.
Batya Ungar-Sargon Explains The MAGA Philosophy That The Left Can’t Understand (rumble.com)
Posted by: kupkee | Mar 7 2024 15:33 utc | 15

It’s gone. Americans are just as expendable to the US elite as the Ukrainians are. Back in the 1970 – 80’s the USA has a skilled industrial workforce and their outdated mills and factories built in the 1940’s and 50’s needed investment to remain profitable. American capital decided they could make more money stripping the assets, unloading pension and union burdens and develop the land under these mills and factories than reinvesting in the USA. US workers were just cast aside … now we see the result.
Trump is a blowhard that will will tell the American public whatever it takes to get what he wants … which is the US presidency. He doesn’t want MAGA … he can’t deliver on those promises. All he really wants is revenge on the democrats and republicans who he precieves as the ones who kept him from being reelected. He can’t bring those jobs back even if he paid for the move himself because Americans no longer have the skilled labour to run machine shops, factories and steel mills. It’s not just the people to man the factories … it’s all the jobbers like specialty contractors, tool and die shops, foundries, suppliers that used to exist in every small town in the USA but have disappeared decades ago. They are gone and their skills and knowledge have gone with them.
THEN there are environmental regulations and worker health and safety … just drop them you say … all it takes is for karen to get cancer … or her hubby gets run over by a forklift … or a duck dies because it got industrial goop in it’s feathers … and the law suits will fly. You see once the industrial jobs left more working class kids became lawyers and they gotta work too so your factory’s shut down while the case slowly winds it’s way to the supreme court.
The USA’s post depression boom was fueled by hard working young mens who came off the farms to work in the mills and factories. They were strong, they had been working with their hands since childhood, had a good education in practical math and English and weren’t afraid to work 12 hours a day. Those guys don’t exist here any more … and I know this for a fact because the problem of recruitment in the trades and apprenticeship training has been part of my professional life for over 20 years. I sat on provincial apprenticeship training boards, I ran a training center and I directly recruited and hired apprentices … good ones are extremely rare these days.
When the western industrial jobs started moving to China in the 1980’s they had a huge rural farming population that moved to the city and went to work in their mills and factories. They’re smart … they’re investing in the industry instead of selling it for a quick profit. Good luck prying it away form them again and if you do who actually does the work?

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 16:55 utc | 21

For a country with no defense lines, Ukraine seems able to maintain the front past Adveevka surprisingly well. The lines have been stuck at more or less the same place for 2 weeks, despite the Ukrainians supposedly short of soldiers and equipment.
“Yes but the Ukrainians are taking heavy losses to hold the line. They will break any minute, just like pro-Z predicted over and over and over again since the war began”
I think there is something to Simplicius’s blog comments that Russians are getting good at urban warfare but struggle with crossing unprotected fields because of constant surveillance and drone attack. Problem is there are a lot of unprotected fields in Ukraine

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 16:56 utc | 22

“Only 820 Ukrainian losses today, which is a reduction. Five Tanks though.
https://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12503601@egNews#txt
Posted by: Lantern Dude | Mar 7 2024 14:17 utc | 1″
Remember the “body count” from the Vietnam War?

Posted by: Feral Finster | Mar 7 2024 17:13 utc | 23

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 16:56 utc | 22
Ask yourself why would the Russian move the frontline fast? Why waste their lives and resources if the NATO/ukro dumbos come to get killed themselves? And your assumption that the ukros are short of soldiers and equipment is your invention. There is no evidence that syrskij cares about the reserves at all. Ukranians call him “miasnik” – roughly “the butcher” – for good reason.

Posted by: Boo | Mar 7 2024 17:15 utc | 24

“…Trump is a blowhard that will will tell the American public whatever it takes to get what he wants … which is the US presidency. He doesn’t want MAGA … he can’t deliver on those promises. All he really wants is revenge on the democrats and republicans who he precieves as the ones who kept him from being reelected. He can’t bring those jobs back even if he paid for the move himself because Americans no longer have the skilled labour to run machine shops, factories and steel mills. It’s not just the people to man the factories … it’s all the jobbers like specialty contractors, tool and die shops, foundries, suppliers that used to exist in every small town in the USA but have disappeared decades ago. They are gone and their skills and knowledge have gone with them.”
Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 16:55 utc | 21
A very good point. To focus only on the quoted text, not only do we no longer know how to build things, we no longer build the things that build the things, and those kinds of skills are not something that can be mastered in a two-week training seminar.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Mar 7 2024 17:18 utc | 25

Remember the “body count” from the Vietnam War?
Posted by: Feral Finster | Mar 7 2024 17:13 utc | 23

No sorry.

Posted by: Lantern Dude | Mar 7 2024 17:18 utc | 26

MK Bhadrakumar has an original take on the Nuland resignation. If he is right Nuland was a ‘moderate’ by comparison with mad Joe Biden who prevented her from reviving the Minsk process in which, according to Bhadrakumar, she was strongly invested.
“But what lies buried in the debris and all but forgotten today is that Nuland also promoted the Minsk Agreements as the way out of the impasse in Donbass where explosive violence erupted in 2014 as ethnic Russian separatists with support from Russian hinterland rejected the contrived usurpation of power in Kiev by Ukrainian ultra-nationalist forces.
“No doubt, after the new government was established in Ukraine, Nuland became one of the main curators of the country’s politics, in particular, the processes that took place between Kiev and Moscow. Nuland was very active regarding Minsk agreements and in early 2016 met several times with then Russian presidential aide Vladislav Surkov and discussed plans for the implementation of the political part of the agreements regarding the special status of Donbass within Ukraine.
“However, once Donald Trump came to power in January 2017, the momentum was lost, as the well-known cold warrior Kurt Volker was brought in as special envoy for Ukraine to replace Nuland who quit the government post….”
https://www.indianpunchline.com/is-ground-beneath-bidens-russia-policy-shifting/

Posted by: bevin | Mar 7 2024 17:20 utc | 27

@Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 16:56 utc | 22
Effective fpv drone suppression continues to be a problem for both sides, especially in more open areas. The UAF has been forced to deploy scarce reserves in order to slow Russian advances in areas where there are insufficiently prepared fall back positions to gain time to prepare additional lines of defense. They hope to preserve the foothold in Rabotina and prevent further Russian advance wnw of Avdeevka – probably hoping the EU will somehow agree to provide troops to guard rear areas to allow additional forces to be sent to the front before Russia has time to push through the last well prepared defensive positions. We will see which side succeeds.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 7 2024 17:32 utc | 28

New post by Marat:
(yandex translated)
A short frontline summary on March 7, 2024 from journalist Marat Khairullin
Already today it can be stated that the operation conducted by our army near Donetsk is unique in many respects and comparable in scale to some strategic operations of the Red Army in the Great Patriotic War.
Today, our army is conducting active offensive operations in dozens of directions at once at the Novoselovka line (near Dzerzhinsky)-Avdiivka-Krasnogorovka-Novomikhailovka. The total length of the front is about one hundred kilometers (more than 60 kilometers in a straight line). This is comparable, for example, with the battle of the Kursk Bulge, where the total length of the front was 200 km, and our offensive line was about 120 (dear readers, of course, will clarify in the comments – I write approximately).
And in the same way, the catastrophe of the Ukropsky regime will be comparable in consequences when our people break the Ukrov here. After the battle on the Donetsk arc, the war will be definitively lost by the enemy. I’ve already told you why.
After the defeat of the main fortified areas of dill near Donetsk (Avdiivka-Pervomaiske-Krasnogorovka-Marinka-Konstantinovka), on which their entire defense rests, our troops enter the Kurakhovo-Pokrovskoye line and cut all the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into two parts that do not communicate with each other.
Let me remind you, for comparison, during their counteroffensive in Zaporozhye, the dill marched in two columns – near Rabodino and Staromikhailovsky.
The total width of the front was about 20 kilometers. After about a month and a half of fighting, the dill blew away and continued the offensive with only one column near Rabocino, about 7 kilometers wide. The result of the counteroffensive is known: 90 thousand losses, not counting equipment and other things. And here the losses of dill at the Kleshcheyevka-Bogdanovka line, where they also tried to advance, are not taken into account.
And now compare the operation that (attention!) the Russian army has been conducting for the 6th month on a front about 100 kilometers wide near Donetsk. Already today, the losses of ukrainians since the beginning of the operation (conditionally October last year) are estimated at a monstrous figure – 70 thousand heads. And Ukrainians continue to actively increase this number. Using exactly the same tactics of self-destruction as in the counteroffensive, trying with all his might to throw off our troops from the flanks of the Donetsk arc – in Novomikhailovka and at the Berdych-Orlovka-Thin-Severnoye-Pervomaiske line.
But if the active advance of our troops continues in Novomikhailovka, the Russian flag is already in the center of the village. Then serious battles are raging near Orlovka.
The Ukrainians are again driving hundreds of their suicide bombers on the offensive across the open area. And at the same time, their situation, from the point of view of suicide, is simply many times worse than with a counteroffensive.
Our aviation in Zaporozhye did not feel as free as in the sky near Avdiivka.
For comparison, only two rocket and artillery regiments (according to open sources) covered the border of Rabochino – Staromikhailovskoye.
Near Donetsk, the concentration of our rocket and artillery units, apparently, is very much higher than that in Zaporozhye.
I’m not even talking about the fact that the Ukrainians have finally lost their high-precision and long-range Western art, armored vehicles. Plus our full advantage in drone warfare, in combat-ready and trained infantry. Which, unlike ukrov, we regret and rotate regularly.
How in such conditions the thick-headed Syrsky hopes to throw us off the occupied frontier is incomprehensible to the mind. To drive naked infantry without artillery support, without aviation, without tanks head-on to our positions across the bare steppe? We need to go completely under the roof.
It is very interesting to watch our guys fighting from the sidelines these days.
Imagine a football match where a crowd of men is not just watching TV, but, as if on their own, remotely drives pendel after pendel into the gates of a principled opponent. Imagine what an upbeat roar there is in the room. Here, multiply this jubilation of mature men by five and get a rough idea.
Therefore, thank you, Syrsky, you are a real fascist, exactly the way they were portrayed in Soviet films – ruthless, vicious and stupid. But seriously, these days we see how the ukry have fallen for the same bait again.
One of the tasks of the Donetsk liberation operation, as I have said more than once, is the destruction of the last reserves of the Ukrainians. That’s exactly what we are observing – the situation of the Ukrainians is so bad that they no longer care what they will fight with after the unblocking of
Donetsk.
They understand perfectly well that the Nazi regime has come to an end, which means that the last reserves should be spared – put them in the stove, in the Russian stove, let them burn.

Posted by: Dalibor Simich | Mar 7 2024 17:37 utc | 29

As we can see, Zelensky ignored everything and only now hastily decided to implement this case, where hundreds of corrupt officials and schemers have already stuck.
https://t.me/legitimniy/17405
Posted by: Down South | Mar 7 2024 14:55 utc | 7
……………………
I doubt Elensky has anything to do with such decisions.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 7 2024 17:42 utc | 30

@ HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 16:55
Great post. Excellent career story, wish we were neighbors, would love to pick your brain.
I don’t think the game is over yet in terms of re-skilling Americans. Yes, the culture has issues, but there are some significant pockets of talent, there are many new product opportunities, and the entry barriers are much lower than they once were for mfg’g.
This is off-topic, I’ll stop here. Apologize to the bar.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Mar 7 2024 17:46 utc | 31

Ukraine running out of troops is like the boy who cried wolf for me. We have been told that the country is running out of troops for what, at least a year now? Even assuming the worst about millions of people leaving the country, there are still likely 20 million or so people in Ukraine, skewed toward adult men and away from women and children. A lot of pensioners too, but Ukraine has not hesitated to enlist 60-year-olds anyway. At the current rate of attrition, even assuming the worst of Ukrainian casualties, they are nowhere close to literally running out of men. All I see is them holding the line and finding more and more troops to throw into this breach or that breach and stabilize things. This isn’t WW2 for a host of reasons, one of them being how small scale this war is in comparison.
I also see the Russians struggle to move forward. And it’s not like they aren’t trying, based a continual attacks and expenditure of armor up to the present day. I thought with the glide bombs things might have changed, but again the front is stalled at 2 street villages for 2 weeks now. How the Russians will cross the rivers which are the next frontier just a bit back between the current line around Adveevka, I have no idea.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 17:47 utc | 32

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 16:56 utc | 22
Lets zoom out for a moment and look at how events are unwinding. This won’t be exactly the way the MSM told the story but it is what it is.
2012 after “success” in Iraq and Libya the USA led “west” now focused on Syria with the rallying cry “Assad must go”
2014 Russia said “enough is enough” “if not Assad them who?” and helped them get their civil war under control against the USA’s wishes.
Outraged at the impertenance of Russia’s actions in Syria the USA launched the Maidan coup in Ukraine which was supposed to punish the Russians by removing the democratically elected leader with Ukrainian nationalists and seizing the strategically important Crimean naval base for NATO’s use.
Russia’s response was to pull the rug out from under the USA and pip them to Crimea by “repatriating” it.
Then cam the cries “Putin must go”
2022 brought a hot war with Russia over the Donbas. NATO had trained a 60,000 strong army for Ukraine that was about to go on the offensive against the breakaway oblasts in the Donbas which the Russians could no longer ignore and they acted with a military incursion.
That incursion triggered the real weapon the USA planned to use against Russia. Blockade and starvation due to “nuclear level sanctions. NATO leaders claimed “Russia will be defeated” they were soooo sure of themselves.
2023 After the original 60,000 strong Ukrainian army was battered to the point of not being combat capable once, the west rearmed them with all the Soviet weapons they could find worldwide along with a few “game changers” from their own arsenals.
Then when that army was battered to the point of losing their combat capabilities they again rearmed the Ukrainians with superior NATO weapons that were sure to win the day and the Ukrainians launched the “greatest counter offensive” to retake Crimea in a single campaign season.
Politicians in the EU and USA now said “Ukraine MUST win”
2024 After that Ukrainian army’s offensive was soundly defeated the Russians went on a creeping offensive against the main Ukrainian defence lines in the Donbas.
This is where we are today. The west has no weapons left to give and the Russians are outproducing NATO in artillery ammo by a factor of 4 to 1. Russia is just beginning to spool up industrial production. The Chinese are in Russia as we speak modernizing and networking factories.
Today’s rallying cry is “Ukraine must not lose” and that is exactly the military strategy they Ukrainians are using today. The objective is not to win ground or even to seriously degrade the Russian army.
The objective in Ukraine today is to save face for US and EU politicians by not losing …. yet. It’s a far cry from what was supposed to be a punishment for Russia interfering in Imperial affairs in Syria. Russia’s economy is thriving. Putin is adored and held up as a great leader outside the USA / EU.
It doesn’t take a genius to extrapolate what will happen in the future given the events of the last decade. It doesn’t really look good for the west so if your in the west sitting on cash spend it while it’s still worth something.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 18:00 utc | 33

The German Foreign Ministry has published a statement that reads Travel to Russian Federation is strongly discouraged . The world is getting out of hand.

Posted by: AI | Mar 7 2024 18:01 utc | 34

@11
What’s your source? I want to check the info myself. God forbid it’s something announced by the Ukrainian General Staff or ISW.

Posted by: GW | Mar 7 2024 18:04 utc | 35

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 16:55 utc | 21
…………………
Great post. Thxs.
Though perhaps things could turn around faster than you think – in the unlikely happenstance that a sea-change occurs throughout the American Body Politic.
When all are rowing in the same direction a year can be like a lifetime.
People keep turning to Presidents as if they were autocratic monarchs of yore. Of course they are not, rather the more visible part of a complex machine designed to ensure that they cannot become dictators etc.
But the people are partly right in doing this because even though the West’s polities are now dysfunctional it is indeed good leadership at the top which is the sine qua non of turning things around. Unfortunately too many people bought into subversive pseudo science last century and deny the great evils perpetrated by class warfare and ‘dictatorship of the proletariat’ lunacies. And you cannot get good leadership without a good leadership class which takes generations to build. We let credit cartels rule the roost; they are not leaders but takers.
The West has lost shared values, perspective and vocabulary with which to analyze and remedy its many ills. The inevitable fruit of materialist ignorance and arrogance which has and is still ruining what was a flawed but promising Great Civilization.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 7 2024 18:05 utc | 36

So this morning a drone hit Severstal in Cherepovets.
Video here:
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1765764582360969363
For those not familiar with the geography, this is quite a bit north of Moscow:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/59%C2%B007'00.0%22N+37%C2%B054'00.0%22E/@58.8555706,35.62583,7z/data=!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d59.1166667!4d37.9
Where did that drone come from and how did it get past defenses?
It’s much easier to accept that this came from Finland and flew to the Vologda region over Lake Lagoda and then over the forests between it and Cherepovets than to believe that it launched from Chernigov and flew over Bryansk, Kaluga, Moscow and Tver without anyone noticing it.
This is critical strategic industry in the deep rear.
Zero reaction from the Kremlin once again. They are too busy denying they tried to assassinate Zelensky (looks like they really didn’t) instead of working on taking out the NATO leaders.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:11 utc | 37

Posted by: Sam | Mar 7 2024 15:18 utc | 11
I think you missed the real news today, shame. Russian air defenses detected and jammed 139 Ukrainian drones over the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) in the past day. Unmanned aerial vehicles were jammed over the cities of Donetsk, Makeyevka, Yasinovataya and Gorlovka. Besides of course the drones warehouse obliterated in Odessa at 10:50 am [Moscow time].

Posted by: AI | Mar 7 2024 18:12 utc | 38

Posted by: bevin | Mar 7 2024 17:20 utc | 27
sooo he’s saying is that back in 2014, when Mitch O’bama admin revised GW Bush censure of Modi’s AUTHORITARIAN POPULIST HINDUVITA government, “Toria” neither approved nor opposed state.gov experimental re-animation of the QUAD in the Indo-Pacific, while she purportedly negotiated terms of Trilateral Group, of which US was not a party?
Why Narendra Modi Was Banned From the U.S. (02.05.14)
President Obama Meets with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi (30.09.14)
Remarks With Vice President Joe Biden and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi (30.09.14)

BIDEN: a portrait—a copy of a portrait of my great-great-great grandfather who—the Irish part of me is hard to admit, but was an English sea captain who settled and lived in India, and there are three Biden families in Mumbai.

Posted by: sln2002 | Mar 7 2024 18:18 utc | 39

@37 the drone was probably smuggled into Russia and launched not far from its target. It didn’t fly in from Finland or from Ukraine. Putin has made his decision, a long time ago, to turn the other cheek to deep western involvement in the war. I think it’s because he is legitimately scared of starting a war with a block of countries 7 times more populous than Russia. He also strikes me as extremely “bloodless”, casualties are just statistics to him, he said off the cuff one time that instead of dying of alcoholism it’s better to die defending Russia.
He likely has made a calculation (who knows it if is protein correct) that the best way to win is to grind on against Ukraine and take the hits from the west

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 18:19 utc | 40

“It’s gone. Americans are just as expendable to the US elite as the Ukrainians are”
E x a c t l y
But not just Americans, all of us, all of us who live in the delusional West. After all, as the Original Software (Deuteronomie) says: “those people that you are going to dispossess”, or as the Nazarene tradition (John) says in the mouth of a Sadducean priest of the city-Temple: “those damned people”.
And that is all of us. The Palestinians are the extreme case of a general case that affects the whole Anglo-empire 2.0, heir of the Anglo-empire 1.0, and last version of the Roman Empire.

Posted by: Simon | Mar 7 2024 18:20 utc | 41

https://t.me/warhistoryalconafter/150933

❗🇷🇺🇺🇦🇰🇿Ukrspetsexport is negotiating with Kazakhstan on the purchase of Russian defense products for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a source told RIA Novosti.
According to his information, components for Su-24 and MiG-29 aircraft may be transferred to Kyiv through companies registered in Astana.

https://t.me/rybar/57960

🇰🇿🇺🇦And again there was talk about the possible sale by the Kazakh side of components for Soviet/Russian-made Su-24 and MiG-29 aircraft . We talked
about the likelihood of such a scenario back in the fall, when the leadership of Kazakhstan put up decommissioned aircraft for sale at a fairly low price. There is no doubt that the Kazakh authorities can do this. They will sell it to shell companies, and then without a twinge of conscience they will say: “Oh, we don’t even know how this could happen. We were deceived. Most importantly, don’t deprive us of gasoline . ” But the condition in which the planes will be handed over is a big question, given that they were written off and put up for sale for a pittance for a reason. The conditions for their storage and maintenance in Kazakhstan can hardly be called satisfactory. But still, Ukrainian specialists will certainly pull out some parts and use them to repair their fighters and, most importantly, Su-24 bombers , the number of which is not so large, but their importance due to cruise missiles is extremely high.

So the question immediately comes up if Kazakhstan is putting these for sale, what prevents Russia from buying them?
Or it a sale specifically for some people with others excluded?
In which case it is not really a sale, is it? But rather an openly hostile act…

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:21 utc | 42

https://t.me/rybar/57959

🇲🇩The government of Moldova announced the suspension of the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) “with the possibility of returning to its implementation later . ”
There is nothing extraordinary in the decision, given the long-standing failure of this security system in Europe and the trends towards the militarization of Moldova.
▪️Almost a year ago , Russia withdrew from the CFE Treaty , but our country formally suspended participation in the agreement back in 2007 due to violation of its terms by NATO countries .
▪️Last November, in response to the actions of the Russian Federation, the UK also announced the suspension of participation in the CFE Treaty . The decision also became a formality, since participation in the treaty did not in any way prevent the British from increasing their combat potential.
🔻In Moldova, meanwhile, militarization is in full swing: over the past two years, the republic’s military budget has been increased by almost 70% due to cuts in social spending in the already poor republic. NATO countries are constantly holding exercises in the country , and Moldovans are increasingly receiving summonses from military registration and enlistment offices, supposedly for “data verification.”
Moldova is in fact already an appendage of NATO, despite the country’s constitutional neutrality , which is in fact no longer respected and is criticized by the office of President Maia Sandu .

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:22 utc | 43

https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1765764198678553036

Macron has said, “there are no more red lines, there are no more limits” in terms of supporting Ukraine (Le Monde). Then that means, Russia has no more red lines left for France.
In hostem omina licita.

Stop talking shit and do something kinetic that will actually make them think twice about further escalation.
Or better yet, do something that will make sure they never think again…

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:24 utc | 44

Doctor Eleven@19….jezz Doc, I’m a Leprechaun, I can’t help it. Foreigners come to 404, thumb their noses at Mr Putin, travel all over the Ukraine with impunity…..it’s a mockery, the west mocks Russia, the UK excels now at sinking Russian ships, so Russia tapped, still waiting for confirmation, a few Brits…..like that’ll stop the West, all the while waiting for a market collapse, it’s prolapsed already with the only cure so far from both sides is to just kill more, kill, kill, kill, very expensive collapse payed in human chattel.
Cheers M
By the way Russia still does huge trade with the ‘west’ of the world directly or through intermediaries, how does the collapse help Russia. Putting all their eggs in the Chinese basket.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 7 2024 18:24 utc | 45

@37 the drone was probably smuggled into Russia and launched not far from its target. It didn’t fly in from Finland or from Ukraine.

It was a heavy drone, not an FPV firecracker.
The roof of the blast furnace collapsed, look at the video. It’s not minor damage at all.

Putin has made his decision, a long time ago, to turn the other cheek to deep western involvement in the war. I think it’s because he is legitimately scared of starting a war with a block of countries 7 times more populous than Russia.
Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 18:19 utc | 40

Well, then he will keep turning the other cheek all the way to being reduced to the state of current Syria.
Population means nothing here, how many nuclear warheads you have, how much strategic air defense, and how much capability to disable the other side’s strategic systems is what matters.
Putin can (and at this point already should have) wiped out at least one NATO country, to make it clear to the rest what will happen to them if they don’t stop with their aggression. And then the rest will not respond — nobody will die over something that doesn’t exist anymore

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:29 utc | 46

If one looks at the success of post war Japan, S Korea, and then more recently China these populations had shared common values which allowed their governments to mobilize their societies effectively to achieve significant economic and technological advances. One could say the same about post war USA for a period of several decades. We can see Russia trying this path with some initial success and great potential for more. By contrast the west is mired in a set of devisive social debates and declining economic momentum. There seems to be an attempt to use invented military threats to try and improve social cohesiveness but so far this appears to be failing. I don’t see any significant groundswell of public enthusiasm for military intervention in Ukraine emerging in Europe (or the US), and without this the Ukraine project is certainly doomed – sooner rather than later.

Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 7 2024 18:30 utc | 47

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:24 utc | 44
The more things go south in Ukraine the more sb goes berserker.
For let’s do something kinetic I will wait for Macron to start with a big popcorn bag.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 7 2024 18:30 utc | 48

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 16:55 utc | 21
So what are you saying then bro? Just f’ck it all, give up and hand it all over to China? Continue to let a lositively tiny minority in the world, the Zionists rule over us and destroy us all at will? Well I ssy no f’ckn way. And I think you might be surprised by how many Americans are at ghe end of their collective tether. Zionist media love’s to highlight the stupid idiots of America that subscribe to the hip hop braindead its-all-about-me culture. Because thats what they WANT you to think White America is. You draw your own conclusions, but I see a sea of intelligent, moral, highly capable, thoroughly creative, and strong people that are completely dismissed. So you conclude Trump is a blowhard? Isn’t Biden a blowhard? Wasn’t Obama? Of course he came in a slick talking package but he was s controlled destroyer too.
You don’t we can’t re-learn how to manufacture. We taught tge rest of the world. Modern assembly line Industrial manufacturing saw its genesis in Western Europe. America was the indistrial powerhouse of the world only four decades ago. You don’t think that can be revived by AMERICA FIRST protection policies?

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Mar 7 2024 18:31 utc | 49

Simon @ 41

And that is all of us. The Palestinians are the extreme case of a general case that affects the whole Anglo-empire 2.0, heir of the Anglo-empire 1.0, and last version of the Roman Empire.

The Palestinian Genocide is boldly in our faces intentionally to normalize atrocities and war crimes, western criminals in power plan to spread horrors across the globe and they want the golden billion inured, even as the horrors become inflicted on them and progressively overcome them.
My kin come from a town that was devastated in WW2, I was talking to a friend and his grandmother told him that during the war the strange thing is you would normally walk past dead people along the roadside as you would now walk past someone sitting on a bench. That’s where they want us – accepting and passively complicit in their atrocity exhibition.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 7 2024 18:37 utc | 50

The more things go south in Ukraine the more sb goes berserker.
For let’s do something kinetic I will wait for Macron to start with a big popcorn bag.
Posted by: Mario | Mar 7 2024 18:30 utc | 48

Look, they just bombed Severstal.
Do you have any idea what that means?
What is next on the list? UVZ? Votkinsk? Murmansk? Sarov? Snezhinsk? ICBM silos? The Kremlin (again, but not with firecrackers, for real this time)?
Thus MUST stop now.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:40 utc | 51

bevin – 27
I believe MK Bhadrakumar’s take on Nuland is fanciful at best – it is much more likely Nuland’s “interest in the Minsk Accords, like Merkel’s, was to buy time for the Ukraine’s armed force’s buildup to retake Crimea, and subjugate all Russian influence in the Ukraine.
Please remember that Russia, in 2012, had thwarted the US plans for Syria. Hell hath no fury for dissing the neocon dreams of the likes of Nuland & Bolton, and Putin with his “gas station w/nukes” had to be put in its PNAC place.

Posted by: Eric Blair | Mar 7 2024 18:44 utc | 52

From the previous thread:

by: vargas | Mar 7 2024 14:11 utc | 269
A military question:
What would be the best way to fight see drones?
The one crucial element is a data link to and from the C-DRONE. EW and thermal, comes now as a need to establish some head-up, probably as a quick remedy.
Failing to convince Elon Musk that his Starlink terminals are now part of an asset that participates in attacks on civilian and military targets, shutting down the Starlink orbits with 5 tonnes of 3 mm titanium ball bearings would be the easiest.
Those are orbits at the height between 280 and 600 km.
No projected ‘denial debris’ endangers the Space Station.
Now, back in time, 80 years ago and we have very efficient ‘cope nets’ protecting Russian convoys against torpedoes. Those were hung with rakes protruding some 10 m around ship’s hull and in depth of 5 m.
The sonar network in the Black Sea is certainly needed and before SMO, Turkish and Russian military talked about it, also because of monitoring gas pipes.
It would also help if there is 24/7 Russian ability to keep ISR up in the air and using pressure and scare actions confronting NATO’s ISR, by all means, minus weapons shot down. Those are sonic booms, after-burn, air-vortexing, near NATO drones and AWACS. Spilling the fuel on them helps a lot there, and certainly powerful EW pods on SU-xx Khibly, from mere meters away. Those reboot onboard systems and block radars easy.
The best solution would be to liberate Odessa and de-coast Ukraine. End of story.
Posted by: whirlX | Mar 7 2024 17:31 utc | 287

To add on drones and stuff flying about Russian skies currently – those are launched from the NATO territory, RF knows that and is not telling yet. They will not say much, but will react the same. Or probably already do.
It starts small, it goes on for sometime and than all of a sudden stuff goes down deep in the rear.
The one who has the temporary air superiority does not necessarily win, but certainly is capable of making the damage.
I think there is a much more aggression in the back that we do not get informed about.
It is a pre-hot war stabbings. I have seen that before and it didn’t end up well. Once when this phase is rolling, it is impossible to stop.

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 7 2024 18:53 utc | 53

@46 you come across as intelligent and well informed, but what I just don’t understand is your thought pattern “Russia has taken far too many casualties and losses in this war, so let’s respond by starting a nuclear war that will even in the most optimistic scenarios result in the deaths of tens of millions more Russians”.
As per the 7 times population discrepancy between the western alliance and Russia, there is an even larger industrial output discrepancy. No I’m not saying Russia makes nothing and is just a gas station, but if you put together Japan and SK and Germany and the USA and France and Italy so on and so forth yes they produce a lot more than Russia. It’s not just non-gendered bathrooms and derivatives in the West.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 18:55 utc | 54

Effective fpv drone suppression continues to be a problem for both sides, …
Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 7 2024 17:32 utc | 28

Someone finally integrated the bits and pieces:
https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/2355

🎼🎻 New Russian FPV drone with a coil of thin fiber optic cable more than 10 kilometers long.
The drone transmits digital video in real time via a 10.5 km fiber optic cable.
This kind of drones is almost impossible to stop (or detect) using electronic warfare.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 7 2024 18:55 utc | 55

Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh @ 49

You don’t think that can be revived by AMERICA FIRST protection policies?

No, not under neoliberalism, it’s financialized bubble economy or capital and labor intensive industrial economy, you have to choose, can’t have both. Of course, neoliberalism is the economic expression of neocon militarism, so it would be a small step to candidly merge this modern phase of capitalism with state power, which is the textbook definition of fascism, IOW to make it apparent and prioritize it.
What I’m getting at is you wouldn’t get a 1950s unionized empowered workers, disposable income, two car garage economy, you’d get 1940s Germany and Japan forced labor economy. But yes, agreed lots of good, smart, aware people in the USA and across the west – but are they enough to stop what’s coming? Probably not, if history repeats their efforts will have to come as partisans during the maelstrom.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 7 2024 18:59 utc | 56

@46 also wasn’t there a confirmed case of a largish drone being smuggled into Russia a little while back? That time people were saying it must have flown from Finland, but it turned out to have been smuggled in (I suppose in parts)

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 19:04 utc | 57

It is a pre-hot war stabbings. I have seen that before and it didn’t end up well. Once when this phase is rolling, it is impossible to stop.
Posted by: whirlX | Mar 7 2024 18:53 utc | 53
Unfortunately, it actually appears that the West will only stop its efforts to destroy Russia after it has received a substantial blow. That’s how it is with wars. Once they start, they develop a dynamic of their own that can only be controlled by great statesmen – and we don’t have that in the West because the real power lies with the plutocrats.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Mar 7 2024 19:05 utc | 58

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Mar 7 2024 18:31 utc | 49

So what are you saying then bro? Just f’ck it all, give up and hand it all over to China?

I’m saying the ship has sailed. It’s done. The jobs are gone and if you want them back practice your limbo dancing because you are going to gave to bend further and work cheaper than the Chinese or Indians or whoever has those jobs now are willing to do to keep them.

So you conclude Trump is a blowhard? Isn’t Biden a blowhard? Wasn’t Obama?

You’re mistaking me for someone who supports Biden in favour of Trump. I can assure you that I don’t give a fiddlers fuck about either although I have a special hate for Trump because he’s the archetype asshole “self made” developer’s son who is where he is because of daddy. There are a lot of them out there and I dealt with them all through my career but Trump is the king of the species. I have no idea what Biden stands for or what kind of a man he is and I don’t care.

You don’t think that can be revived by AMERICA FIRST protection policies?

Nope … see my post above.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 19:10 utc | 59

I’m not sure why some feel compelled to argue on behalf of NATO ‘strategy’ when it’s obvious to most that the sanctions were the be all and end all of any planning. We are out in the deep dark woods of the unk ow now, being led to this juncture by a bunch of incompetent chancers, covered in blood, shit and their own disgrace. Hold onto your asses.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 7 2024 19:10 utc | 60

Let’s just accept that shadowtroll has a death wish he cannot resist. Only he’s not content to off himself quietly and wants the whole world to go bang with him.
Because going nuclear is the only plausible outcome of open NATO/Russia war.

Posted by: averros | Mar 7 2024 19:14 utc | 61

anon2020 | Mar 7 2024 18:55 utc | 55
“New Russian FPV drone with a coil of thin fiber optic cable more than 10 kilometers long.”
Really? I find it hard to imagine something like a kite with a 10km long string. Wouldn’t it break? The cable must be very fragile. otoh wire-guided missiles exist with that sort of range, so I guess it’s possible.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 7 2024 19:16 utc | 62

Legitimny says Zelensky gave orders to stop the Russian advance at all costs, and at the same time prepare a new counter-offensive for May. This is to hide the problem of legitimacy.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 7 2024 19:17 utc | 63

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 18:55 utc | 54
You must be new here since you repeat this old and dumb argument from size again and again without understanding that eu and us block have much larger armaments costs than Russia; your 7 to 1 advantage is not correct once you adjust for the 10 to 1 cost (or higher) + unlimited resources advantages that Russia has. Also, who TF is going to pay in broken eu to match the military industrial output of Russia? you can read Brian Berletic for more details why your argument is really stupid.
Also, stop bj-ing the shadow troll, he is here to disrupt and contributes a big fat 0 to the discussions

Posted by: Boo | Mar 7 2024 19:18 utc | 64

Scorpion | Mar 7 2024 18:05 utc | 36
*** a good leadership class which takes generations to build. ***
Britain had centuries — and the “leadership class” — whether monarchic or aristocratic — was quite consistently self-serving, kleptomanic shite. Likewise the subsequent (and partly overlapping) capitalism-augmented “leadership class”.
You cannot breed a collie from a mink and a pig.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 7 2024 19:18 utc | 65

by averros | Mar 7 2024 19:14 utc | 61
No, it is not. One cannot make money on the nukes. On the conventional weapons you can, sure thing.

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 7 2024 19:19 utc | 66

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:40 utc 51
It would be better if you get your shit together.
Severstal is not even a place, it
‘s a company, it’ s like someone bragging ‘they hit Apple, what’s next?, Capitol Hill?’
Moreover, the hit appear having not done particular damage and possibly Russian people will not know about it or care about.
So it’s only a pr operation for western.
https://www.mining.com/web/severstal-plant-in-russias-cherepovets-was-hit-by-drone-strike-says-local-official/

Posted by: Mario | Mar 7 2024 19:23 utc | 67

The roof of the blast furnace collapsed, look at the video. It’s not minor damage at all.

Not the whole ROOF of a BLAST FURNACE! Clutches pearls.
That’s it, Russia needs to negotiate surrender now. Or initiate nuclear war. Or something.
I wonder how many blast furnaces Russia has? Probably only one, the rest of the smelting being done on 1000 washing machines running in series. And a roof is a very rare and irreplaceable thing, going to tale decades to fix that, if ever.
As I have stated, NATO is flailing, striking out looking to provoke Russia with terrorist attacks and the like. This is a sign of desperation, not strength. Similar with needing to highlight minor tactical victories as the overall strategic situation continues to turn against NATO. Strutting peacocks who failed upwards their whole lives surrounded by other parasitic dipshits, all shitting their pants.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 7 2024 19:33 utc | 68

shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:21 utc | 42
*** So the question immediately comes up if Kazakhstan is putting these for sale, what prevents Russia from buying them?
Or it a sale specifically for some people with others excluded?
In which case it is not really a sale, is it? But rather an openly hostile act…***
A proper leader of Russia would have the Kazakhs (a) trustably friendly or (b) thoroughly assured of the impending and absolute termination of themselves and their country if they were not.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 7 2024 19:33 utc | 69

unimperator @ 63

Legitimny says Zelensky gave orders to stop the Russian advance at all costs, and at the same time prepare a new counter-offensive for May. This is to hide the problem of legitimacy.

The grim, determined commander in chief decided, the military high command staunchly saluted, the fate of the nation and its finest men hung in balance as they all marched stoically towards the front.
C’mon, the military people from the AFU, the USA, UK and Brussels wouldn’t piss on Zelensky if he was on fire. Penis Piano Churchill is media stardust, a porn fluffer that got a starring role.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 7 2024 19:36 utc | 70

@64 it’s not dumb to note if your foe has a much larger industrial capacity than you. Forget about costs for a second, just think of outputs. Automobiles or satellites or industrial robots or rockets or commercial airliners. Not fake stuff. How much does Russia make, and how much does the collective west make? Things cost more in the west but there is also a lot more money in the west. Russia has an advantage is certain categories of weapons manufacturing right now because Russia is at war and the west is not. The west is just financing and aiding a proxy force. If the west were at war, like literally in a state of declared war against Russia, you would see a lot more resources shifted to military production.
Putin knows this and has stated this before. He acknowledges Russia is a relatively small power compared to the USA or China or the western world.

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 19:38 utc | 71

shаdοwbanned | Mar 7 2024 18:22 utc | 43
*** Moldovans are increasingly receiving summonses from military registration and enlistment offices, supposedly for “data verification.” ***
What’s their inspirational slogan — “Get Crippled or Die for Greater Romania”?

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 7 2024 19:39 utc | 72

Or maybe the Kremlin doesn’t give a shit if the Kazakhs sell some old parts for MiGs to Ukraine. For a variety of reasons, all of which seem obvious, most importantly that they won’t make any difference whatsoever. Maybe they got crafty and decided to let go of a bunch of worn out trash parts they can no longer safely use for big dollars before those dollars are worth zeroes. You know, like how the Ukropatsies were unhappy with the Italian artillery shells. ‘Unusable shit’ I believe was the quote.
But what do I know.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 7 2024 19:40 utc | 73

Ultimately we know if Russia is making progress or being reduced to the size of Syria, as shadowbanned suggested. Is Russian industrial production growing or shrinking? Is Russian military production growing or shrinking? By how much? Is the front moving into previously controlled Ukrainian land or Russian land? Right now despite the “embarrassing” hits, Russia is producing more, making progress on the front, etc. There is also no sign of that progress being about to reverse. Except for the Russian Black Sea fleet lol, which is being attritioned away. But Russia has never been a primarily naval power, and the Black Sea fleet is the weakest of the main Russian fleets to begin with.
If you are Putin, if you just see a bunch of numbers and statistics, things are moving in your direction. So instead of getting emotional and distracted by the hits, he keeps pushing at a strategy that has finally started to pay off. That’s the charitable interpretation

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 19:45 utc | 74

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 7 2024 19:40 utc | 72
Obviously it is a waste of time trying to chase clues of all the small stuff delivered to Ukraine. US uses a lot of bribes, threats and social engineering in conjunction with chasing old Soviet equipment from all around the world in an effort to get it to Ukraine.
Ultimately what matters is the EU ‘war economy’ is already choking on itself before it began, and US is too busy making max profits and desperately preparing for China to care.
Ukraine ran out of everything – APCs, anti air defense, artillery weapons, missiles (only given to special attempts to hit the Crimea bridge, which is more of a UK political goal), aircraft (where are F-16, last update said they will come in July), tanks etc.
So where is the mighty arsenal of democracy?

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 7 2024 19:51 utc | 75

If you are Putin, if you just see a bunch of numbers and statistics, things are moving in your direction. So instead of getting emotional and distracted by the hits, he keeps pushing at a strategy that has finally started to pay off. That’s the charitable interpretation
Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 19:45 utc | 73
Finally? Tell us when the west strategy has ever payed off.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 7 2024 19:53 utc | 76

shаdοwbanned @ 51

Look, they just bombed Severstal. Do you have any idea what that means?… Thus MUST stop now

Yikes, time to nuke New York and London! Go get them, son.
Alarmist much? I googled it, seems a single drone, RF claims no one hurt, factory is working. Maybe they are playin down the damage, but Germany and the USSR forged steel and welded tanks while under a rain of bombs. More is coming but war isn’t linear, especially this one, who knows what’s coming from either side. Take a chill pill, and keep them close at hand.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 7 2024 19:59 utc | 77

Chessmaster Z @ 73

If you are Putin… That’s the charitable interpretation

I’m certain Putin appreciates your charity.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 7 2024 20:04 utc | 78

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 7 2024 19:16 utc | 62
The spool is carried by the drone so the fiber is draped over the landscape rather than dragged out of a stationary spool at the point of origin. There will be limitations, like crossing active roads or railways, wind swept trees etc, anything that could sever the thin optic fiber, but it’s still a serious threat under the right conditions. No radio comms signal to give it away, just residual electromagnetic noise from the motors and electronics, plus the usual audio / visual cues. The 10km range is good by current FPV standards where EW is active.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 7 2024 20:06 utc | 79

I would think the “panic” over lack of defense lines has gone down a bit, given the Ukrops have been holding at Berdiche for 2+ weeks now.
P.s. All you h8ers: I give the Russkis credit for what they do. For Avdiivka and Lastditchkno, etc. But not for what they don’t do. Sorry…that is too “kool kids” for me. Gotta prove it. Not “muh attrition” that nobody can check up on.

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 7 2024 20:08 utc | 80

unimperator @ 74

So where is the mighty arsenal of democracy?

Should I repeat my witty comment from an old post? OK, you forced me, “seems the arsenal of democracy is as shallow as the democracy.”

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 7 2024 20:10 utc | 81

@74 on the one hand, western dreams of Ukrainian total victory and Russian dissolution have crashed against reality. The counter offensive was a dismal failure, Russia currently has the initiative. Taking out the Kerch Bridge will change nothing militarily, it will just be for PR. One of the points of the war for Russia was to get a land bridge to Crimea.
But on the other side, Russia is struggling to take the Donbas, forget about Kharkiv or Odessa or Dnepr or any of the more maximalist goals. It moving 5 km past Adveevka in empty fields is so difficult, what is the end state?
I think it will be a peace agreement at more or less the current lines, with a promise of Ukraine not joining nato and having some limits on its military. How can Russia trust Ukraine or the West? It can’t. But there is currently no path to a bigger victory

Posted by: Chess | Mar 7 2024 20:11 utc | 82

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 18:55 utc | 54
“if you put together Japan and SK and Germany and the USA and France and Italy so on and so forth yes they produce a lot more than Russia”
And yet North Korea produces more 155mm shells annually than the entire EU.
We’d all like to see a quick end/Ukrainian collapse. But Mordor is very powerful and there’s no sign yet of Ukrainian soldiers along the entire front fleeing in disorder – poor sods.
I see the odd reference on Telegram to the civilian evacuation of the Kharkov region. Is there any truth in it?

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 7 2024 20:12 utc | 83

HB-Norica @ 21
and I know this for a fact because the problem of recruitment in the trades and apprenticeship training has been part of my professional life for over 20 years.
For 40 years I tried to break into the union. First half of those years everyone knew who I was because my great-grandfather had invented the Chicago Sash Brush and my great-uncle had perfected it. And taught me the trade. But a generation had gone by with no one from the family being a union member and I never could get sponsored. Or I’d find a sponsor and make the first few moves, it would all be dropped because a family member wanted the sponsorship.
Unions killed unions.
There were endless opportunities for unions to do something. Membership sat by and watched like stuffed fish mounted on the wall while mafia held all offices and negotiated surrender.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 7 2024 20:13 utc | 84

@74 on the one hand, western dreams of Ukrainian total victory and Russian dissolution have crashed against reality. The counter offensive was a dismal failure, Russia currently has the initiative. Taking out the Kerch Bridge will change nothing militarily, it will just be for PR. One of the points of the war for Russia was to get a land bridge to Crimea.
But on the other side, Russia is struggling to take the Donbas, forget about Kharkiv or Odessa or Dnepr or any of the more maximalist goals. It moving 5 km past Adveevka in empty fields is so difficult, what is the end state?
I think it will be a peace agreement at more or less the current lines, with a promise of Ukraine not joining nato and having some limits on its military. How can Russia trust Ukraine or the West? It can’t. But there is currently no path to a bigger victory, so this will be a frozen conflict and a thorn in Russia’s side for decades to come

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 20:14 utc | 85

Really?
A verified Nazi supporting ukrop general goes to the court of st James.
Imagine.
Yup. Charles The Turd is going to hang out with old family friends.
We are not ‘for turning’ yet.
It really is going to get worse. Before it ends.
‘ ◾ Zaluzhny the new Ukrainian ambassador for the UK, a known nazi who just last week posted a picture with a t-shirt of Neo Nazi Ukrainian rock band Sokrya Peruna. And only weeks ago just before been sacked from his position as head of the Ukrainian Armed Forces he took a photo with the commander of the Ultranationalist Right Sektor paramilitary units and a portrait of Nazi and Holocaust collaborator Stepan Bandera.
◾Follow:
t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ‘
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/49180

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 7 2024 20:27 utc | 86

What’s their inspirational slogan — “Get Crippled or Die for Greater Romania”?
Posted by: Cynic | Mar 7 2024 19:39 utc | 71
Die for the Macaron, for the moment at least. Russia actually suggested they have no interest if Moldova disappears or not, it was Putin or Medvedev who said it.

Posted by: rk | Mar 7 2024 20:28 utc | 87

I’m not sure why some feel compelled to argue on behalf of NATO ‘strategy’ when it’s obvious to most that the sanctions were the be all and end all of any planning. We are out in the deep dark woods of the unk ow now, being led to this juncture by a bunch of incompetent chancers, covered in blood, shit and their own disgrace. Hold onto your asses.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 7 2024 19:10 utc | 60
The sanctions weren’t ‘NATO strategy,’ they were US strategy AGAINST THE EU. They’ve been very successful. The EU got suckered into a war meant to isolate them from Russia, China and Iran, and possibly ME oil in general, because aside from a few key minions in on the plan, they thought the war was meant to overthrow Putin and break up Russia. Woops.

Posted by: Honzo | Mar 7 2024 20:29 utc | 88

44
medvedev is such a bs*itter
he is reflecting team chessmaster

Posted by: tesla | Mar 7 2024 20:37 utc | 89


But there is currently no path to a bigger victory, so this will be a frozen conflict and a thorn in Russia’s side for decades to come
Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 7 2024 20:14 utc | 82
Really?
YOU believe…
And probably what you think is a bigger victory for RF is not what RF think it is.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 7 2024 20:39 utc | 90

Russian advances. In Scott Ritter’s conversation with the Chechen general in Russia, the general said that even though Ukraine is low on ammunition, there is always ammunition that has been saved for striking concentrations especially HIMARS missiles.
But to stop and advance like the recent one past Ardveeka, its just a matter of a fresh batch of FPV drones. Too many idiots seem to think this war is the same as cold war era proxy wars or even US safari against Muslim countries during their war of terror.
This a war where both sides use precision guided weapons and ISR so there has never been a war like it. Incredibly lethal for any attacking force. On top of this, the Ukrainians are now so brainwashed they will fight until none are left and can be likened to nazi Germany which took a heavy toll of both Soviet and western forces right up until the time of the official surrender.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2024 20:48 utc | 91

Nuland was very active regarding Minsk agreements and in early 2016 met several times with then Russian presidential aide Vladislav Surkov and discussed plans for the implementation of the political part of the agreements regarding the special status of Donbass within Ukraine.
A bunch of glowie BS. The Donbas Militias were rolling over the Ukraine army. Minsk was agreed to to buy time. The other option for Nuland was the loss of eastern Ukraine.

Posted by: JackG | Mar 7 2024 20:49 utc | 92

Lets zoom out for a moment and look at how events are unwinding. This won’t be exactly the way the MSM told the story but it is what it is.
2012 after “success” in Iraq and Libya the USA led “west” now focused on Syria with the rallying cry “Assad must go”

I agree with you on the importance of Syria in all of this. In fact, the reason the Former West started the Ukraine war was to get sanctions imposed. And you can bet that one of the requirements to get sanctions lifted after the imagined “collapse” of Russia was for RF’s to pull out of Syria.
However the real starting point was Browder and the Magnitsky Act. Browder and Safra were going to replace Yeltsin with Boris Berezovsky. Putin screwed that up and became the new hitler. The Magnitsky Act was named after a crook that defrauded Russian pensioners.

Posted by: JackG | Mar 7 2024 20:57 utc | 93

Sam | Mar 7 2024 15:18 utc | 11

in south Donbass.

I refuse to pass up an opportunity to laugh at wannabe propagandists who can’t be bothered to open a map for once in their lives to know where Donbas is, let alone what it is, and what is to the south of it.

Posted by: boneless | Mar 7 2024 21:00 utc | 94

You’ve quoted Emmanuel Todd here with approval in the past. In a new book, “La Chute de l’Occident” (“The Fall of the West”) he has a radical analysis of Western policy in Ukraine.
In a kind of reverse engineering of Max Weber’s thesis about Protestantism & the Rise of Capitalism, he attributes the brutality & idiocy of current Western policies to the decline of religious belief. The reasoning is detailed & complex, so please don’t dismiss it as simplistic moralising.
What’s relevant here is that he sees Putin’s policy in Ukraine as being rational, if illegal. He argues that Putin is aware that the West is determined to destroy Russia as a major power, & that demographic decline means that Russia has no hope of defeating NATO in the long term. Putin therefore reasons that Russia’s current advantage in weapon technology & Western political disarray means that Russia has a window of opportunity of maybe 5 years in which to defeat NATO, which it is doing.
Todd’s analysis, as always, is based on his study of longterm historical trends, and in particular on his analysis of the influence of traditional family structure on political movements. Briefly: in China, Russia, Vietnam & Serbia (but also Tuscany & parts of France, Portugal & India) the traditional family consisted of three generations living under the same roof, with property being divided equally between siblings. Germany, Scandinavia, Scotland, Ireland, Japan & Korea are characterised by inheritance by the eldest male, and an acceptance of inegalitarianism.
The Anglo-Saxon nuclear family, with its emphasis on the freedom of children to leave the family, and its indifference to equality in inheritance, is a freak outlier, found in Denmark, coastal Holland, Siberia & among some Canadian tribes.
Once you’ve absorbed this theory (entirely empirical, & therefore subject to revision) it’s difficult not to apply it to current politics. Many of the world’s problems can be put down to the Anglo-Saxon desire to impose a system which emphasises individual freedom at the expense of social cohesion on the rest of the world, and to our lack of consciousness of the origins of some of our most precious beliefs.

Posted by: geoff chambers | Mar 7 2024 21:03 utc | 95

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2024 20:48 utc | 88
It is doubtful Ukraine would ever run completely out of ammunition. For defensive purposes, they necessarily don’t need as much, and they have a lot of FPV drones. And they have HIMARS available, aided by the 70km range of the launcher, which means one or two launchers can cover a large are of the front.
Albeit the weakness of FPV drones (so far until AI) is each drone requires 1 drone operator and dedicated time.
But my point is Ukraine will always have a dribble of ammunition coming in, however small the stream. And they can hit Russian advancing if they get too careless.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 7 2024 21:04 utc | 96

That dribble of ammo will only allow for terrorism though, without air defense no launcher will last for long.

Posted by: SOS | Mar 7 2024 21:14 utc | 97

Ukrainians are now so brainwashed they will fight until none are left and can be likened to nazi Germany which took a heavy toll of both Soviet and western forces right up until the time of the official surrender.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 7 2024 20:48 utc | 88
Yes and no. This is a s(hitty)mo. And nothing stresses Kiev, a missile three times a year on some empty or not military target isn’t even noticed, that’s no ww2. As galactic general Shoigu said, the plan is to continue the police action until 2025, he did not mention goals, just a time

Posted by: rk | Mar 7 2024 21:14 utc | 98

HB_Norica | Mar 7 2024 16:55 utc | 21
Many thanks for that analysis.
Your description of the US & its decline is recognisable to this Brit from reading practically any description of America, from Benjamin Franklin’s autobiography through Mark Twain to the postwar Beat Generation.
Everything we Europeans admired about the USA for 2 centuries has all but disappeared. Trump’s followers, however delusional in other ways, at least recognise what they’ve lost, and intend to do something about it.

Posted by: geoff chambers | Mar 7 2024 21:15 utc | 99

It’s a Mad World.
Arseula Uber Alles
She just has Tears for Fears for us.
Who ever gets to elect her?
To Rule The World.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aGCdLKXNF3w
The Bucha body bags laid out for me for the photo op – doh.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/103604
When will be rid of those natzio monsters?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 7 2024 21:27 utc | 100