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March 3, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-067

Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine.

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@rgl | Mar 3 2024 21:15 utc | 96
In case the Russians do reach the Channel (despite typing this up in the English language, I do not subscribe nor submit to the silly British hubris of naming that straits “English” because it clearly and factually is not,) I do hope that they do not stop there but march on to and sack the City and smash to bits all evils that conglomerate there. It would be a tremendous service to all humanity, probably even more profoundly so than the sacking of Nazi Berlin was.
As for the Baltic states, a sizeable proportion of their population is ethnic Russian. Over the course of the Ukranian war, Baltic nationalism as been on the rise and taking forms similar to Ukrainian “nationalism”, ie. rabid russophobia coupled with glorification of ancestral ss nazi legions. They also share the vain hope that NATO will back them up when the going gets tough. Well, Ukraine is learning the hard way as we speak.

Posted by: Lurk | Mar 3 2024 21:43 utc | 101

Republicofscotland | Mar 3 2024 15:44 utc | 7
Russia should declare all Western patents, copyrights,and trademarks null and void.
Confiscate all Western property for compensation of conficated Russian assets.
Say adios to the West, since it is a dead man walking.

Posted by: Drapetomaniac | Mar 3 2024 21:47 utc | 102

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 3 2024 21:35 utc | 100
I think it possible/likely that the drone was launched west of St Petes from the Petergof region of the mainland. The drone would have flown North out to sea, then turned eastward to St Petes, by the sabatuer operatives and on to the target. This operation therefore fulfils two objectives. Firstly, to bring panic to the Russian population AND to make it appear the drone came from either Estonia or Finland, An attempt to involve another country in the conflict….basically a provocation.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 3 2024 21:51 utc | 103

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 3 2024 19:41 utc | 70
3rd/4th gen ISR makes deception operations, like that practiced before Bagration, or Saturn, very hard to pull off, as do concealing the enhanced logistics footprint of a modern army. Aerial mobility and supply comes at a cost as well, as combatant in all conflicts, who’ve used it heavily, have found out.
Posted by: whirlX | Mar 3 2024 21:01 utc | 93
Russian casualties, inflicted by the Ostheer, in the latter part of the war were in excess of three million, forcing changes in the Soviet TOE, especially infantry formations. So, whilst it’s true to say they were lower than the start of Barbarossa it’s only because those casualties were astronomically high. The wheel to wheel barrages were a simple solution to a perennial Russian problem, the relative unresponsiveness of their artillery, in comparison to other developed countries. This lack of flexibility extended well into the late Cold-War, with senior commanders deployed in the lead units as a work-around. It also explains the current situation in the SMO with Russia’s massive advantage in shell production. NATO primarily planned to kill the guns, and interdict and destroy their supplies, Ukraine was unable to do both, as the Russian artillery was beginning to achieve the same flexibility the West had enjoyed for decades, and rapidly devolved its logistics. All the analysts who warned about these developments, (since 2014+), including the problem of low shell production and reduced inventories, were ignored or co-opted into justifying ever-high tech solutions.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 3 2024 21:56 utc | 104

by Lurk | Mar 3 2024 21:43 utc | 101
British Isles have to do the purge, but by themselves. Russia cannot be bothered with it.
As for the rabid Baltic Micronesia, they bark now, but soon they will squeal. RF knows how to handle them, do not worry. it is a rinse and repeat historical process.
Russian way of war is to induce changes that suit and accommodate all. Failing to understand this, is pretty much deadly for the Russian enemies. It is that simple.

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 3 2024 21:56 utc | 105

Shadowbanned, your vapid attempts to appear to provide substance to your concern trolling only makes you look more trifle and irrelevant.
Your assertions about attacks on Russia from NATO soil are entirely unsubstantiated and consist only of feeble baiting in order to hastily divert from being caught red-handed in the act of concern trolling. They merit no serious response until you manage to come up with some kind of actual substance.
In the real world, Russia has time on its side.

Posted by: Lurk | Mar 3 2024 21:57 utc | 106

The French deliver Scalp missiles to Ukraine in Audi Q7 SUVs, and the British deliver them in Ridgeback armored vehicles.
The British Times drew attention to this when analyzing a recording of a conversation between German officers published in the Russian Federation.
The publication believes that this is “important information about how long-range SCALP and Storm shadow missiles are delivered to Ukraine.”
This could help Russian intelligence track and find such vehicles in Europe and Ukraine, the article says.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/03/germany-intelligence-leak-uk-troops-ground-ukraine-nato/#:~:text=He%20also%20revealed%20that%20France,Ukrainian%20troops%20on%20German%20soil.

Posted by: Hankster | Mar 3 2024 21:59 utc | 107

Shadowbanned is unfortunatelly right.
There are dark times for Russia coming.
The West is apparently ready to take Kaliningrad.
They would put Russia into dilemma: Defeat and loss of Kaliningrad or nuclear war.
Based on Putin’s weak posture, many people in western armies think that Russia would not dare to launch a response but would accept a defeat.

Posted by: vargas | Mar 3 2024 22:01 utc | 108

Here, an expert on the French scene talks for 10 minutes and 1 second about Macron’s plan to “create a strategic dilemma for Russia.”
It’s nice to find out what’s going on behind the scenes – with our money in our name but without our knowledge.
“Paris is considering allowing special forces and other military units to cross the Ukrainian border.” – Le Monde Ossi 37

Basically sending in troops to act as bait. If Russia annihilates them with missiles, then France does what? Send in its army to teach Russia a lesson? And if Russia responds with force against France’s puny army, then what? Looks more like a strategic dilemma for France. Is Macron that crazy?

Posted by: Mike R | Mar 3 2024 22:02 utc | 109

Dima said RU controls half of Berdychi, but this was due to AFU committing more counter-attacks to hold it. But that is pretty wasteful.
Also some more advancement in Novomikhalovka, but that area is still controlled by AFU drones to an extent.
What was interesting around Rabotyne. Apparently RUAF allowed AFU to send reinforcements again to south of Rabotyne and pulled back. So RU again bombs the AFU reinforcements. Apparently the idea of the quick attack on Rabotyne was to make AFU commit its reinforcements, and reveal its artillery support and drone operating positions, this were hit with Krasnogorovkas and MLRS systems. So it’s still rope-a-dope.
In Kharkov, a FAB bomb hit a target about 40km SW of Kharkov. It’s interesting because that is 66km from the borded, which means either AFU has no air defense in this area, OR RU has developed a longer range FAB than before.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 3 2024 22:06 utc | 110

Basically sending in troops to act as bait. If Russia annihilates them with missiles, then France does what? Send in its army to teach Russia a lesson? And if Russia responds with force against France’s puny army, then what? Looks more like a strategic dilemma for France. Is Macron that crazy?
Posted by: Mike R | Mar 3 2024 22:02 utc | 109

Earlier today there was a discussion about how one of the planned deployments is along the Belarus border.
That may be a welcome development if true — I imagine Lukashenko would not tolerate this, and he is not a coward like Putin. But one never knows, of course…

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 3 2024 22:07 utc | 111

Basically sending in troops to act as bait. If Russia annihilates them with missiles, then France does what? Send in its army to teach Russia a lesson? And if Russia responds with force against France’s puny army, then what? Looks more like a strategic dilemma for France. Is Macron that crazy?
Posted by: Mike R | Mar 3 2024 22:02 utc | 109

Earlier today there was a discussion about how one of the planned deployments is along the Belarus border.
That may be a welcome development if true — I imagine Lukashenko would not tolerate this, and he is not a coward like Putin. But one never knows, of course…

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 3 2024 22:07 utc | 112

There are dark times for Russia coming.
The West is apparently ready to take Kaliningrad. They would put Russia into dilemma: Defeat and loss of Kaliningrad or nuclear war.
Posted by: vargas | Mar 3 2024 22:01 utc | 108
On the contrary, it puts the west in a dilemma. If it decides to attack Kaliningrad, it runs the risk of a nuclear exchange. Its the wests choice…not Russias.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 3 2024 22:13 utc | 113

Posted by: Lurk | Mar 3 2024 20:32 utc | 83
Germany does not have a constitution like the US or France. Its legal system is still widely based on the Grundgesetz or basic law, which is the basis of a liberal federal legal system encouraged by the British and Americans, when they pushed for the creation of West Germany in their zones of occupation – 1949. This was originally considered to be an interim solition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law_for_the_Federal_Republic_of_Germany
Article 146 of the Basic Law calls for the eventual creation of a German constitution adopted by a vote of the German people. I was recently reading Jurgen Habermas lamenting the fact that at the time of reunification in 1990, the German political class decided on reunifaction based on Article 23 of the Basic law, which allows other regions to join those observing the Basic law, and rejected the opportunity to have an actual constitutional convention, that could reach a true constitution arising from the will of all German people. The Basic law guarantees many fundamental human rights but Freedom of Speech is in many ways more restricted than in say the US. For example speech denying the holocaust, like in many other European nations, is prohibited.
That said, Germany was an original signatory of the European Convention on Human Rights, article 10 of which guarantees freedom of expression.
Still many other factors, non-disclosure agreements, concern for the safety of sources of information, concern for the privacy of colleagues, friends and the like, play a role in limiting an author’s inclination to express themselves on any given topic.

Posted by: kvp | Mar 3 2024 22:20 utc | 114

It seems Ukraine has lost hope in winning a war, and instead focuses on having a 30-second clip ready for US and EU prime news every day.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 3 2024 22:25 utc | 115

HERMIUS@113….ah, a Catch 22 situation playing a hybrid game of Russian Roulette Mexican Stand Off….surely it ends well for all involved.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 3 2024 22:29 utc | 116

The Red Army’s mistake was that they only Kaliningradized Kaliningrad.
Should have done it in Finland and the whole of Germany they controlled, plus what is now northern Poland too.
But the US had the bomb, and they didn’t.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 3 2024 20:41 utc | 86
You forget that in the postwar period Russia was left broke, immensely short of men and needed to completely rebuild a part of their country the size of the continental USA from the east coast to the Mississippi. There were entire towns and villages where not a single man survived and people were still living in holes in the ground into the 1960’s. They were still engaged in combat in the Ukraine and Baltic states well into the 1950’s.
Russia had a policy of having the communist parties of Eastern European countries under their influence take responsibility for their own policing and security … under KGB supervision of course.
The only reason they spent money Russifying Kaliningrad was so they wouldn’t get bottled up in St. Petersburg by something as simple as submarine netting the next time they had to wage war against the west. That’s it’s purpose.
They didn’t have the resources to fight the cold war, rebuild their country and absorb a whole bunch of countries with populations that didn’t want to become Russian and were willing to fight against them for generations. You have to be able to keep the people you already control satisfied before trying to assimilate more and as we know the Soviets had already bitten off more then they could swallow as it was.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 3 2024 22:29 utc | 117

“British tankers might be the best way to respond Britain sinking Russian ships.”
Fully agree.
Going beyond that, Russia must turn Houthis to what Ukraine is to NATO.
British petroleum firms lost massive potential in Russia since 2022. If they are further restricted in the middle east they may not survive beyond recession-hit Britain.

Posted by: Jason | Mar 3 2024 22:31 utc | 118

The West is apparently ready to take Kaliningrad.
They would put Russia into dilemma: Defeat and loss of Kaliningrad or nuclear war.
Based on Putin’s weak posture, many people in western armies think that Russia would not dare to launch a response but would accept a defeat.
Posted by: vargas | Mar 3 2024 22:01 utc | 108
They’re not going to take Kalingrad. It was in reference to this scenario: If Russia invaded the Balkans they (NATO/the West) could take Kalingrad. Or otherwise cut Russia off from it.
And there are steps to nuclear war O Acolyte of Brave Sir Shadowbanned. The loss of Kalingrad, in and of itself, does not guarantee that a nuclear exchange will occur.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 3 2024 22:32 utc | 119

by Milites | Mar 3 2024 21:56 utc | 104
Yes, true on the omnipresent ISR dominance, however it is still very hard to follow everything over the 1500 km combat-line. Shoigu claimed that Avedeyevka was a result of concentrating every asset to that task, and that caught NATO with the pants down. Fast movement of the back-up troops and reserves around the Eastern battlespace was confusing and untraceable, until it was too late.
Lately, I see some Russian tactical and operational mistakes, but not as critical for the outcome. Excuses that a terrain is hard are not valid. ISR although more primitive was also very strong in WWII with planes photographing Russians up to 4 times a day. Nights were easier to move under the cover of darkness.
But, talking of big arrow wars, you are aware that a plethora of ‘shoot and scoot’ Russian videos of some single Tornado or TOS or an attack on a settlement with a tank or a two, with a platoon or less, is falling rather under the military/police intervention than a huge battlefield war.
When I see videos of 20+ Buratinos, Grad, Tornados and Koalitsyas/Mstas lined up in a row, firing endless salvos, I would accept this as a low intensity war, by Russian standards.
Stalin procured 9 million shells before Stalingrad breakout, followed by 10 million the next year and growing rapidly to a 14 million at the gates of Berlin. Also the main caliber was 203 mm heavy arty, much of it also 305 mm, 280 mm, less of 152 mm or 122 mm, plenty 100 mm 107 mm, and 85 mm. Although Katyushas of 80 mm and 132 mm, were also plenty, those were not so precise or destructive, as they were psychologically devastating in a saturating the quadrant.
In those days, major issues were not the ammo amounts, but tired and stretched logistics that had to catch up with the movement and a consumption. A massive op, even for today’s standards with a modern tech to avail.

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 3 2024 22:41 utc | 120

Comandante @12
Segundo os generais alemães os ucranianos tem menos de 10 su-27 operacionais, o que significa que, no maximo dos máximos, podem ser lançados 18 ou 16 Taurus num ataque de “saturacao” contra a ponte.
Segundo os mesmos ensandecidos comandantes, para realmente conseguir colocar a ponte kersh “no fundo do Mar Negro” seriam necessários 20 mísseis Taurus ou mais de uma só vez.
Além do mais os alemães possuem apenas 50 Taurus para enviar para a frente.
Levando em conta que menos de 5% dos mísseis passam pela defesa aérea da Criméia, os alemães deveriam esquever tais sonhos molhados.

Posted by: Soviético | Mar 3 2024 22:42 utc | 121

by kvp | Mar 3 2024 22:20 utc | 114
Jakob Maria Mierscheid, MdB, was against the Germans basing the law on a constitution carved by Occupying Allied Forces.
🙂

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 3 2024 22:50 utc | 122

“All the analysts who warned about these developments, (since 2014+), including the problem of low shell production and reduced inventories, were ignored or co-opted into justifying ever-high tech solutions.”
Posted by: Milites | Mar 3 2024 21:56 utc | 104
Well, if I was Western government procurement officer I would hire you as thee analyst.
Wonderful post.
If I had to make a complaint I would turn your paragraphs from one to three or four as it is easier to read that way, and easier to understand like morons like me..

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 23:00 utc | 123

There are dark times for Russia coming.
The West is apparently ready to take Kaliningrad.
They would put Russia into dilemma: Defeat and loss of Kaliningrad or nuclear war.
Based on Putin’s weak posture, many people in western armies think that Russia would not dare to launch a response but would accept a defeat.
Posted by: vargas | Mar 3 2024 22:01 utc | 108

You seem to forget that just 2 short years ago Russia was a gas station with nuclear weapons and an economy the size of Italy and nuclear level sanctions were supposed to be the nail in Putins coffin.
Since that time Ukraine’s military has been defeated 3 times and reanimated twice. Russia has outperformed every western nation economically. Russia outproduces the west in the manufacture of weapons and ammunition by a factor of four. German, US and UK wunderwaffe were supposed to humiliate the Russians on the battlefield … but didn’t … and the Ukrainians were supposed to be in Crimea by now … but aren’t.
… and you believe some bright little spark in Brussles believes that now is the time to launch an assault on a Russian territory that’s only purpose is military and is fortified to withstand a nuclear war with NATO.
I don’t think the issue is whether or not Putin will respond but whether NATO has the conventional power to pull it off without being humiliated.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 3 2024 23:01 utc | 124

@ Posted by: Oliver Krug | Mar 3 2024 20:39 utc | 85
“ after this experience, avoid confrontation with Russia for the next years and have learned to respect the security interests of Russia.”
This is the last time ever that any such attempt at ‘taking Russia’ will happen in our future history. After so so many centuries it f trying perennially.
The attempt at building immense cemeteries of ‘to the last Ukrainian being part of a future monuments to rally around… yup they are that crass and ‘long thinking’.
But it is not about just Russia.
It is about the whole world that is considered by the ancient Barons as they’re to do with.
The prospect of confrontation with these lands and peoples and the majority of humanity’s security interests.
Don’t believe me? Have a look at Assad’s latest interview with the respected Russian journalist. He is one of the great midwives of the polycentrict world being born daily infront of our unbelieving eyes. Well the majority of the Collective Waste and many others too – who have no idea that they will soon be able to cast off the hollywoodised dreams of success, beauty and happiness. That mirror cracked.
I look forward to a future where such idolatry is known and understood to be the height of decadence before the final collapse of the unipolar Empire and its myriad of fake ‘religions’.
Which is the fascist endeavour spanning the ages.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 3 2024 23:10 utc | 125

Gotta love this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18j9RDraEO0

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 3 2024 23:13 utc | 126

The only reason they spent money Russifying Kaliningrad was so they wouldn’t get bottled up in St. Petersburg by something as simple as submarine netting the next time they had to wage war against the west. That’s it’s purpose.
They didn’t have the resources to fight the cold war, rebuild their country and absorb a whole bunch of countries with populations that didn’t want to become Russian and were willing to fight against them for generations. You have to be able to keep the people you already control satisfied before trying to assimilate more and as we know the Soviets had already bitten off more then they could swallow as it was.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 3 2024 22:29 utc | 117

I am well aware, but you see how 80 years later it is all starting once again.
Kaliningrad wasn’t ethnically cleansed solely because of naval considerations, it was also part of neutering Germany, because Königsberg had been the center of Prussia was thus perceived as the center of German chauvinism and militarism. So the idea was to just put a complete end to it and repopulate it with Russians.
The problem clearly wasn’t sufficiently solved though, because as soon as Russia was perceived to be weak enough, the West decided to launch a redo of Operation Barbarossa.
So what is the long-term solution from Russian perspective?
Remember that a primary reason for the historic Russian underdevelopment has been the endless invasions it has suffered. That has to stop. And yet these days even the possession of nukes is apparently not enough to deter it…

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 3 2024 23:14 utc | 127

CIA base located and destroyed in Sumy along with 8 officers.
German construction companies are contracted to build defenses in Kharkov and Kupyansk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4URPP3-5qgA

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 3 2024 23:24 utc | 128

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 3 2024 23:24 utc | 128
Borzzikoman’s waffle is pure garbage and lies, just suitable for entertainment,

Posted by: Grishka | Mar 3 2024 23:33 utc | 129

by shаdοwbanned | Mar 3 2024 23:14 utc | 127
You are right on that, a small part of the Yalta deal was to be dissolvement of a concentrated Prussian militarism and such, but Kaliningrad is a huge EW/ISA point, nuclear base, 4 squadrons of SU-xx and a pretty big deterrence force at about 15 BTGs, submarine port and a Navy supply.
Not an easy pray for NATO at all.
Direct attack would be resulting in pretty big losses in a radius of 300 km certainly, this pesky Polish/US Redzikowo Air Base being AEGIS.
As for the nukes – I would approve, given the level of danger of losing it. But I doubt that they will try that.
So far, NATO only succeeded in surrounding Kaliningrad. It took 50 years.

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 3 2024 23:35 utc | 130

then Putin, who is propagating that Russia is defending itself in Ukraine, the problem of showing weakness and just being stupid if nothing is done about it.
It is obvious that Russia cannot compete against a NATO weakened by the Ukraine war and therefore avoids a direct conflict.

Posted by: ossi | Mar 3 2024 16:24 utc | 20
I quoted a report in the German media!
Which doesn’t necessarily correspond to my opinion!

Posted by: Ossi | Mar 3 2024 17:33 utc | 33
If you quote something, make it clear that it is a quote. Comment #20 does not show it is a quote. The source is not mentioned. It is also not clear who is “weakened”. It could be understood both way.
The rest of the quote is exactly what we are reading here from the agents provocateurs: Putin is weak, Russian opinion, blablabla. Reference to the stupid crook and traitor, loved now by the western medias and their masters.
So please, source of your quote, I can read German and so does B.
Thanks!

Posted by: Naive | Mar 3 2024 23:38 utc | 131

So what is the long-term solution from Russian perspective?
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 3 2024 23:14 utc | 127
If it were me I’d clean up my near abroad on my western border … get the Ukraine war over with as soon as practical. Drop an iron curtain and don’t have anything to do with the Europe or the west in general until Europeans figure out they are living in a resource poor part of the world with cold weather and a short growing season and Russia has the food, fertilizer and energy they need to survive and the USA does not.
Then you tell them you’ll trade with them on the condition that NATO is dead and a new security architecture is in place that doesn’t have Russia as an evil villain.
You forget that China is Russia’s silent geopolitical partner in this. Wars are fought on financial, industrial and military terms. Look at that partnership and you’ll find that Russia and China are a self contained block that doesn’t need sea routes to trade between themselves.
Interdicting the internal supply lines between China and Russia by military means is extremely difficult however interdicting supply lines between the EU and USA is simply done with aircraft, submarines and attacking a few European Atlantic ports.
It really is a no brainer when you look at it as trading blocs. Back in 1940 when the vast majority of Russian industry was around the cities of Moscow, St. Petersburg and the Donbas an attack from the west was an existential threat. Fighting on the eastern edge of Russia was a real threat to Russia even 30 years ago but today it’s just nibbling on the edges of the Bloc. Even if the Russians were to lose the use of the Baltic Sea it means nothing if Europe isn’t trading with Russia anyway.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 3 2024 23:43 utc | 132

reply to 102
I think Russia should consider ignoring drug patents and offer drugs through 3rd world nations. That might wake up some in Washington

Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 3 2024 23:45 utc | 133

Is Macron that crazy?
Posted by: Mike R | Mar 3 2024 22:02 utc | 109
Yes. And stupid. Even the people who made him began to understand it, Minc & Attali.

Posted by: Naive | Mar 3 2024 23:49 utc | 134

whirlX | Mar 3 2024 21:01 utc | 93
Kursk. The Soviets decided to defeat the German from well prepped defensive positions then immediately go on the offensive. That made the Germans he attacking force. But even there, the German forces had the better of the casualty ratio. I believe there, the German offensive was only defeated just after it broke through the 5th line of defense in the south and the Soviet reserve was brought in.
What I find interesting the birthplace of current Russian doctrine was the great patriotic war, whereas a lot of western doctrine seems to be based around German doctrine of that war plus the other theaters of what we call WWII.
For its day, German war/military doctrine was a standout amongst the great powers. Russian doctrine stems from defeating that though I guess parts of it go a lot further back.
Nato and the west are certainly not nazi Germany but still because western military’s seem to study nazi Germany way of war, we now have the two different concepts.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 3 2024 23:49 utc | 135

Lurk @ 101

In case the Russians do reach the Channel… I do hope that they do not stop there but march on to and sack the City and smash to bits all evils that conglomerate there.

Why? The British people will do that themselves soon enough. Pitchforks being sharpened, torches being lit.
re: Kaliningrad. I think the talk in the west is more about tightening the encirclement around Belarus. Russia is still in active defense mode, it has not deployed it offensive force. After it consolidates the Donbas, which is on the way to happening, Russia will likely deploy the offensive force it has prepared, a real blow to NATO and the AFU would be to use the force in Belarus to help storm the north then hold it while the main RF army then moves south on Zaporozhye, eventually Nikolaev, and Odessa. Grant taking Vicksburg while Meade takes Gettysburg. There’s no way possible Russia could leave Odessa in the hands of the Brits and the Pentagon. NATO must see that and is pressuring everywhere it can, it’s a big task, they are in over their heads, and why they need to introduce manpower.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 4 2024 0:02 utc | 136

Russia gained 138 square kilometers in Ukraine in FEB. That is +0.02% or two ten-thousandths of the country.
Note this is less than Ukraine gained in JUN2023 (summer offensive start), or even than Russia gained in JAN2023.
https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1764431653345153468
Just something to keep in perspective, with all the hooting about UFA routed and the like. When you zoom out the map, it is still very small. Still VERY far from “Dnieper as the line of defense” talk.

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 4 2024 0:09 utc | 137

It seems that if France wants to send troops to Ukraine, they will have to do it through Romania. Poland is blocking the border with Ukraine to everything, not just grain. I think the evidence is mounting that the Poles are coming to an understanding with Russia about Lvov.

Posted by: Honzo | Mar 4 2024 0:17 utc | 138

Why? The British people will do that themselves soon enough. Pitchforks being sharpened, torches being lit.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 4 2024 0:02 utc | 136

When was the last time the British people did anything like that?
1381? 1450? That’s a bit ancient, isn’t it? Anything more recent than that? I can’t recall.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 4 2024 0:24 utc | 139

whirlX | Mar 3 2024 21:01 utc | 93
Not to mention a bit of historical memory the Poles have with Ukraine so called nationalists.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 4 2024 0:26 utc | 140

Posted by: Honzo | Mar 4 2024 0:17 utc | 138
That’s the issue right, for people who think NATO troops in Ukraine are inevitable. Slovakian and Hungarian leaders are opposed to the idea, and Poland has blocked the border. So that leaves only Romania, which does have elections later this year. So we’ll see.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 4 2024 0:29 utc | 141

So what is the long-term solution from Russian perspective?
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 3 2024 23:14 utc | 127
If it were me I’d clean up my near abroad on my western border … get the Ukraine war over with as soon as practical. Drop an iron curtain and don’t have anything to do with the Europe or the west in general until Europeans figure out they are living in a resource poor part of the world with cold weather and a short growing season and Russia has the food, fertilizer and energy they need to survive and the USA does not.

Dropping an iron curtain doesn’t really work without the cooperation of the other side in the era of long-range standoff weapons.

Back in 1940 when the vast majority of Russian industry was around the cities of Moscow, St. Petersburg and the Donbas an attack from the west was an existential threat. Fighting on the eastern edge of Russia was a real threat to Russia even 30 years ago but today it’s just nibbling on the edges of the Bloc. Even if the Russians were to lose the use of the Baltic Sea it means nothing if Europe isn’t trading with Russia anyway.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 3 2024 23:43 utc | 132

The vast majority of Russian industry is still there.
In fact, some of the most sensitive facilities are located within SRBM range from the Ukrainian border — e.g. Soyuz and Proton rocket engines, as well as those nuclear powered satellites that the US is making such a fuss about are developed and manufactured by ВМЗ and КБХА in Voronezh (which Liz Truss famously thought belonged to Ukraine).

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 4 2024 0:35 utc | 142

Just something to keep in perspective, with all the hooting about UFA routed and the like. When you zoom out the map, it is still very small. Still VERY far from “Dnieper as the line of defense” talk.
Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 4 2024 0:09 utc | 137
There are also things like momentum and morale, and supplies, and supply lines, that you don’t mention, that factor into warfare.
Also, keep in mind context – this isn’t a major Russian offensive. They are taking advantage of gaps in the Ukrainian defenses, as opposed to June 2023 when a major Ukrainian counteroffensive was deployed, with very limited results to show for it.
So, yeah keeping things in perspective is useful advice – please follow it.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 4 2024 0:39 utc | 143

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 3 2024 23:49 utc | 135
It was natural for NATO to study and try to replicate some of the successful German tactical doctrines, given they found themselves in a similar situation to the Germans in mid-late WW2; namely, outnumbered and up against an opponent who relied on massed firepower and an aggressive use of armour heavy formations. Trouble is, those tactics are far less effective when the Russians began adapting their approach to resemble features of the low-density, high-intensity combined arms warfare practiced by their opponents.
Just as the restrictions on the German army, after WW1, forced the Germans into reforms that laid the foundations for their early successes in WW2, the post Cold-War climate forced Russia into having to adopt new tactics and platforms that significantly reduced the impact of the, Germano-inspired, Western tactical combat doctrine. In the same way that Russian exposure to the capabilities of Western ISR, and its attendant weapons platforms, caused a process of adaptations that significantly reduced their operational efficacy.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 4 2024 0:51 utc | 144

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 4 2024 0:09 utc | 137
Can you tell me which cities Ukraine reclaimed or defence lines they broke through in ‘23, I can’t seem to remember! Crudely put, 10 Kg’s of gold is more valuable than a tonne of shit!

Posted by: Milites | Mar 4 2024 0:56 utc | 145

Just something to keep in perspective, with all the hooting about UFA routed and the like. When you zoom out the map, it is still very small. Still VERY far from “Dnieper as the line of defense” talk.
Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 4 2024 0:09 utc | 137
Yes! Quite remarkable, really isn’t it. After all, the Russians were only fighting with shovels, and they had to dismantle washing machines for chips for drones too. They also ran completely out of missiles in June 2022. Boy they’ve made those missiles stretch haven’t they?

Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 4 2024 0:56 utc | 146

Milites | Mar 4 2024 0:51 utc | 144
I would in general agree with that, though I think with the Russian side in this conflict, the changes are more at the lower level, tactical and so forth.
Something I have been thinking about on the Russian approach to war that we have seen with this conflict is the ability to quickly adapt. Start off with a basic military rather than creating large stocks and associated training of a particular weapons system such as small drones. That way there is no wasting of resources for a war that may never be fought.
We see the way Russia quickly turned the SMO into an artillery war and the west was unable to adapt to that. Now although the western backers still supply small drones, Russia is taking the lead in that also. And that remembering that at the start, Russia only had a few fixed wing surveillance drones.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 4 2024 1:07 utc | 147

shаdοwbanned @ 139

When was the last time the British people did anything like that?

When was the last time the UK collapsed?
It went bankrupt during the Truss reign, but after 2008 they no longer make such details public.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 4 2024 1:14 utc | 148

“If one has been following, every single thing AFU has done pretty much since the beginning is try to create media events, claims or optical illusions that either ‘Russia attacked Nato’ (S-300 fell in Poland), Nato attacked Russia (drone coming over gulf of Finland), Russia attack Nato (drone debris fell into Romania), and now these drone events in Pskov and St. Petersburg.
They are also doing it out of desperation. Zelensky was supposed to initiate war between Russia and Nato back in mid-2022 already.”
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 3 2024 21:35 utc | 100
Unimperator. That was Zelensky’s only chance. Initiating war between Russia and NATO. It always looked a thin chance given Yavoriv, given President Biden’s declaration at the start of the SMO that there’d be no US boots on the ground, and given the failure of the West’s main attempt to defeat Russia, the sanctions war.
As slim chance but one that Zelensky was entitled to hope for. He would not have dared to provoke the Russians to attack, nor to reject the Russian attempts at a settlement, had he not been confident that the West would back him all the way. “As long as it takes” was thin assurance from the West as it proved at Vilnius, but it was his lifeline.
Zelensky was the salesman for Kiev. His function was to extract as much assistance from the West as possible and if possible to bring NATO directly into the war. He was bound to fail. The West cannot assist him much more than it does. We’re nearly out of what he needs. As for bringing NATO in directly, the West does not have the means to defeat Russia in that region and will not try. All that is left for Kiev is to prolong the last days in the bunker for as long as possible, and to hope that it will be possible to retain remnant Ukraine.
At some time the last days in the bunker will run out; and the clear intention of the West to use remnant Ukraine as it used the old Ukraine, as a means of “overextending and unbalancing Russia”, will fail of success. Zelensky’s hope of initiating a war between Russia and NATO will not be realised.
Barring nuclear all that is certain. The Russians will neutralise remnant Ukraine on way or the other and there is no future for the current Kiev regime in that remnant Ukraine. The OUN monuments will come down and remnant Ukraine will cease to be a potential source of annoyance.
Given this, it’s puzzling that the Europeans, my own government included, are venting a good deal of wild talk about getting further involved in the hostilities themselves. The Europeans simply do not have the military capability to do anything useful in Ukraine.
One can only assume that like Zelensky before them, they are placing their hopes on getting the US to come into the war directly. Since they will be as unsuccessful in this hope as Zelensky was, and since the US itself is not well placed in that region to exert useful military force short of nuclear, their hopes in that respect must be as unrealistic as Zelensky’s were.
There is therefore no rational basis for those European hopes. That is I believe disturbing. If the Europeans are acting wildly and irrationally – and that’s very much how they appear to me – then they could maybe provoke a Russian reaction that would lead to the hostilities spilling out of Ukraine and extending to Europe itself. But can you see any rational basis for the current posturing of the Europeans?

Posted by: English Outsider | Mar 4 2024 1:35 utc | 149

It’s so hip and trendy to get sent to the meatgrinder and die for your globalist masters…It’s in Vogue..
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/48867
Off to defeat planet Klendathu. Life is stranger than fiction in Clown World.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 4 2024 1:40 utc | 150

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Posted by: Digital Dinosaur | Mar 4 2024 1:43 utc | 151

@ Anonymous | Mar 4 2024 0:09 utc | 137
The way you repeatedly nitpick bits of information to portray Russian progress as insignificant is getting old. Why February vs June? Why not four months vs four months? Why not 2023 as a whole? You have become too obvious with your propaganda push.

Posted by: boneless | Mar 4 2024 1:47 utc | 152

@147
I agree with your post. But, to me at least, even more impressive about Russia’s capacity to adapt and outperform the enemy is the morale factor. At this point, many Russians are actually volunteering for military service, knowing that doing so means combat duty. That tells us something.
Ukrainians, by contrast, at this stage in the struggle, rarely volunteer for military service. It wasn’t that way for Ukrainians in 2022, when many enthusiastically enlisted to fight. But not anymore. Something happened on the battlefield which damaged their willpower.
I’ve been reading Russian military history all my life, especially the pre-1917 era. It’s a historical fact that, if and when Russian soldiers are truly motivated, they almost never lose.
Let NATO send its troops into the warzone. It only means they will experience what the Ukrainian troops experienced.

Posted by: GW | Mar 4 2024 1:56 utc | 153

Poland’s military could be selfishly helpful. They, too, realize how hard the wind is blowing against Ukraine. The more the merrier?

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Mar 4 2024 1:57 utc | 154

shаdοwbanned @ 139

When was the last time the British people did anything like that?

When was the last time the UK collapsed?
It went bankrupt during the Truss reign, but after 2008 they no longer make such details public.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 4 2024 1:14 utc | 148

Life for the average person in the UK was absolutely appalling for almost all of the period between 1450 and now except for the last 70-80 years.
In that time there were enclosures, forced industrialization, the slaughter of WWI, and all kinds of atrocities committed by the upper class towards the lower classes that you can imagine.
The “British people” never rebelled.
Meanwhile the Russian people dumped their aristocracy in unmarked graves. A rather stark contrast, isn’t it?

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 4 2024 2:09 utc | 155

Regarding the Russians publishing the phone call about the Germans attacking the Crimean Bridge and or some specific ammunition storage locations in the area.
My money is on them Rooskies not being smart enough to remove all the explosives from any ammo dump the Germans talked about bombing with sophisticated long range missiles.
Did you hear that Germany? You can still score big by hitting the targets you warned them Rooskies that you would hit. Them Rooskies won’t expect it, when they most expect it!
As for hitting the bridge. The symbolic value will be just like last time. More remembered for how fast it was rebuilt than for the actual truck bombing and unwitting driver. Blow up as much cement as you’d like, so long as at the end of the day them Rooskies live and them Bandera do not.

Posted by: Hot Carl | Mar 4 2024 2:22 utc | 156

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 4 2024 2:09 utc | 155

Meanwhile the Russian people dumped their aristocracy in unmarked graves. A rather stark contrast, isn’t it?

And replaced them with…

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 4 2024 2:24 utc | 157

Posted by: Ed4 | Mar 3 2024 15:03 utc | 1
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Mediazona are hardly impartial, and have the incentive to count every stubbed toe as a casualty.
If the numbers are up, it’s also because the fighting has had an escalated tempo. Which effects both sides.
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As I mentioned before. Russia leaked the call because they view the massive attack on Crimea and the bridge as imminent.
The decision has already been taken at the highest level (Genocide Joe, Nuland, Brits, French and Germans)
There is no going back to these lunatics. Crimea will be a crater and the bridge will be at the bottom of the black sea.
The question now is what is Russia going to do?
Posted by: Comandante | Mar 3 2024 16:04 utc | 12
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Proceed to win the war.
Crimea isn’t going to be a crater and the bridge has been hit before, to limited effect. It’s obviously not easy to strike, much less destroy and a waste of missiles to even try.
The RF will probably just keep hunting NATO personal on the ground. Such specialists are limited and the AFU is bad shape, that’s why they need to try for PR victories.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 4 2024 2:32 utc | 158

Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 4 2024 2:32 utc | 158
If the Crimea Bridge is in any way destroyed, it will be rebuilt in record time. And if its destroyed again, it will be rebuilt in a new record time.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 4 2024 2:36 utc | 159

The Bridge represents a symbol for Russia. Destroying it doesn’t demoralise the russian people or weaken the government. It merely gives them the motivation to win this conflict.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 4 2024 2:39 utc | 160

Monnie @66
Sua questão levanta evidências de como o governo Kruschov antecipou o entreguismo de Gorbachev e Yeltsin.

Posted by: Soviético | Mar 4 2024 2:46 utc | 161

Those barflies that come here and say that Russian success is measured in land taken need to go back and read the Russian intention of the SMO.
By confining the denazification and demilitarization to limited land is what real humans do when forced into conflict….not the barbaric, genocide type.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 4 2024 2:55 utc | 162

One can only assume that like Zelensky before them, they [Europe] are placing their hopes on getting the US to come into the war directly. Since they will be as unsuccessful in this hope as Zelensky was, and since the US itself is not well placed in that region to exert useful military force short of nuclear, their hopes in that respect must be as unrealistic as Zelensky’s were.
There is therefore no rational basis for those European hopes. That is I believe disturbing. If the Europeans are acting wildly and irrationally – and that’s very much how they appear to me – then they could maybe provoke a Russian reaction that would lead to the hostilities spilling out of Ukraine and extending to Europe itself. But can you see any rational basis for the current posturing of the Europeans?
Posted by: English Outsider | Mar 4 2024 1:35 utc | 149

The upheaval in the Middle East may ensure that the US does not get directly involved in Ukraine. The PTB in the US may have considered the possibility that if the US commits to Ukraine directly, then Iran may see a vacuum created as an opportunity to get more aggressive in their region. Maybe the relatively saner minds in Washington have convinced the senile one that the US really can’t handle two, and definitely not three wars simultaneously, and the top priority is Israel. Europe is on its own and they are freaking out.

Posted by: Mike R | Mar 4 2024 2:55 utc | 163

Justpassinby@58….we’ve all heard the rumours, have you evidence and irregular militias are not the same as troops under NATO command, you know that.
Cheers M
…I’m guessing at the distance the bridge is from Ukie proper, they do not have anything conventional to take it down, it seems to be a goal NATO has set for itself.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 4 2024 3:00 utc | 164

On the contrary, it puts the west in a dilemma. If it decides to attack Kaliningrad, it runs the risk of a nuclear exchange. Its the wests choice…not Russias.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 3 2024 22:13 utc | 113
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Actually it’d cause mayhem in Europe, these neo-s**t-lib regimes are not popular at all.
People might tolerate this strange “war of assassins”, even as belief that Ukraine can win wanes. They won’t die for them.
That’s even before you factor in the hollowing out state, of EU-NATO armed forces.
Like I said, they had their one vague chance to intervene, in 2022. When Ukraine was at it strongest and the RF was mostly still in a peacetime posture.
It’s too late for them to do anything, but try to act as a spoiler to the Russians.
All the Kaliningrad & Baltic Sea talk is part of that, no blockade is enforceable, if the RF simply ignores the typical Balt histrionics.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 4 2024 3:10 utc | 165

sean the leprechaun | Mar 4 2024 3:00 utc | 164
Anglostan has been fixated on Sevastopol. The cherry on the Ukraine cake. While anglostan was popping the champaign corks, the cheeky russkies sneaked in and grabbed the cherry.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 4 2024 3:20 utc | 166

In response to some posters saying that Ukraines only strategy is to lure NATO in to the war:
I would go further in saying that the West has committed a kind of constructive fraud on Ukraine, by pretending that they’re going to put actual skin in the game. Ukraine has relied on that to their detriment.
It explains the seemingly idiotic military tactics of fighting for every inch of territory when it is clear to anyone who understands military doctrine that such a tactic will only delay the inevitable at the cost of losing so many men as to make victory impossible.
Look at Robotyne for exhibit “A.” It would clearly be wise for the UAF to retreat and save men and material. The only value of spending more resources there is psychological in claiming that it still hasn’t been fully captured (yet.)
in reality it is a grey zone. It holds no strategic value to either side.
The only way such a thing makes sense is if Ukraine really is going to fight to the last Ukrainian. AND expects that upon defeat, NATO will come riding in on a white horse with not only soldiers ready for combat, of which it has few, but also it’s best weapons not the ones stripped of the newer tech so they can’t be reverse engineered once captured on the battlefield.
Such a belief is wrong but based on their blind idiotic faith in the West, especially the US, held by Slavs I think it isn’t unreasonable. What isn’t reasonable is the politicians like Macron making blustery claims of sending troops, knowing full well they are writing checks they can’t cash.
Also US based pols falsely stating that more aid is coming when it has been clear for months that Johnson (house speaker) has good reason to block it.
Such people are evil b cause they knowingly make false or illusory promises that lead to the demographic destruction of Ukraine. At some point it won’t even matter if NATO comes in, because there will be essentially nothing left of Ukraine but empty land devoid of anyone under 65.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 4 2024 3:46 utc | 167

Dropping an iron curtain doesn’t really work without the cooperation of the other side in the era of long-range standoff weapons.

There weren’t standoff weapons during the cold war? North and South Korea don’t have standoff weapons? You seal the border and have a 5km cleared no mans land where you shoot everything that moves.

The vast majority of Russian industry is still there.
In fact, some of the most sensitive facilities are located within SRBM range from the Ukrainian border — e.g. Soyuz and Proton rocket engines, as well as those nuclear powered satellites that the US is making such a fuss about are developed and manufactured by ВМЗ and КБХА in Voronezh (which Liz Truss famously thought belonged to Ukraine).
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 4 2024 0:35 utc | 142

Proton Rocket engines are made in Perm. Soyuz production facility is located in Samara. Don’t mistake headquarters, design bureaus or branch plant locations for the production facilities of Russian weapons. They started locating them east of the Urals with the German invasion in ’41. They continued with this sensible strategy throughout the cold war. Obviously companies west of the Volga make things the Russian military use but you won’t for example see a military aircraft factory or a heavy forging press … shit the USA really wants to bomb. You build it in the mountains and you build them far apart to survive a nuclear war.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 4 2024 3:55 utc | 168

Also the Houthis have sent that UK destroyer running back to Europe after hitting it with drones.
Posted by: go;ddigger | Mar 3 2024 16:21 utc | 19
Was there ever actually proof of this?
Posted by: BT | Mar 3 2024 18:52 utc | 56
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Not the Houthis, they fired all their missiles and had to return to Djibouti(?) to reload.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 4 2024 4:09 utc | 169

Russia should declare all Western patents, copyrights,and trademarks null and void.
Confiscate all Western property for compensation of conficated Russian assets.
Say adios to the West, since it is a dead man walking.
Posted by: Drapetomaniac | Mar 3 2024 21:47 utc | 102
“For every complex problem, there is a solution, that is simple, effective – and WRONG.”
Complex problems require complex solutions – or at least well thought out solutions.
But that requires thinking – and your aversion to thinking outs you as a westerner.
Consider this:
There are Russian patents, trademarks, and copyrights as well. They might also be declared null and void – and not only by the West, but by any country that so chooses. The Russians are not interested in this. Especially not as they are currently on a winning streak. The Europeans and North Americans, on the other hand, … yes, I can see them implement that.
Though, come to think of it – didn’t the Russians implement something like that already, in a narrowly defined way? They continue to produce wares in factories vacated by their western owners, according to patents held in the West.

Posted by: Martina | Mar 4 2024 4:19 utc | 170

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 3 2024 18:55 utc | 57
judging by all those dead “mercenaries” so far, he used a chisel to write it on a stoneslate.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 3 2024 19:01 utc | 58
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Sniper teams targeting combatants or mercenaries only applies in close combat, howsomever, all this NATO troop talk should make the existing foreign ‘participant’ a little more queasy, I would think. Camera coverage of returning body bags would be next.
The Russians did call the French Ambassador on the carpet on the last big strike.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 4 2024 4:28 utc | 171

That’s the issue right, for people who think NATO troops in Ukraine are inevitable. Slovakian and Hungarian leaders are opposed to the idea, and Poland has blocked the border. So that leaves only Romania, which does have elections later this year. So we’ll see.
Posted by: James M. | Mar 4 2024 0:29 utc | 141
Elections or no elections, to get TO Romania the west needs to go AROUND Hungary, Slovakia, and Serbia, which pretty much means they have to go through Greece and Bulgaria just to get there. And then, unless Modova grants them passage, they have to enter Ukraine at Chernivtsi, or into Odessa oblast by crossing the Danube above the delta. I think there’s only one decent road in the area. Sounds like a logistical nightmare to me.

Posted by: Honzo | Mar 4 2024 4:35 utc | 172

Moldova.
And I’m pretty sure the Russians blew up the critical bridge between Odessa and the Romanian border.

Posted by: Honzo | Mar 4 2024 4:36 utc | 173

Posted by: Honzo | Mar 4 2024 4:35 utc | 172
Yeah, I agree. And to boot most of Moldova’s border with Ukraine is Transnistria, which is basically Russian, so I don’t think they can use Moldova. Also, to get to Greece requires a naval flotilla, even if it’s from Italy. Russian subs in the Med could sink troop transports. I think that there’s no good option for “NATO troops” going to Ukraine.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 4 2024 4:51 utc | 174

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 3 2024 21:35 utc | 100
“If one has been following, every single thing AFU has done pretty much since the beginning is try to create media events, claims or optical illusions that either ‘Russia attacked Nato’ (S-300 fell in Poland), Nato attacked Russia (drone coming over gulf of Finland), Russia attack Nato (drone debris fell into Romania), and now these drone events in Pskov and St. Petersburg.
They are also doing it out of desperation. Zelensky was supposed to initiate war between Russia and Nato back in mid-2022 already.”
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Posted by: English Outsider | Mar 4 2024 1:35 utc | 149
As for bringing NATO in directly, the West does not have the means to defeat Russia in that region and will not try. All that is left for Kiev is to prolong the last days in the bunker for as long as possible, and to hope that it will be possible to retain remnant Ukraine.
There is therefore no rational basis for those European hopes. That is I believe disturbing. If the Europeans are acting wildly and irrationally – and that’s very much how they appear to me – then they could maybe provoke a Russian reaction that would lead to the hostilities spilling out of Ukraine and extending to Europe itself. But can you see any rational basis for the current posturing of the Europeans?
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The fake war crimes staging by the Ukies is gone. They are still into video-ops, Crimea an obsession for them and the UK.
The NATO boots on the grounds talk should make everyone nervous, including me. Are they stupid enough to field a polyglot military in Ukraine, and under whose command exactly after failing to get the concept of a ‘EU Army’ of the ground? Rules of Engagement, anyone? Weapons, ordnance, armor, supplies, logistics, support?
See who goes into the bunker and who comes out. That might be as good as it gets.
Just read LeMonde and the Frankfurter Algemeine for updates. They still want to stop the Russians who are grinding on taking out Ukies and NATO weapons every single day.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 4 2024 4:56 utc | 175

COMMENT UKRAINIAN COUNTEROFFENSIVE WEST AVDEEVKA, MARCH 4 2024
The situation on the frontline between Berdychi and Tonenke has been rather stationary the last two days. UkrAF was retreating when Syrsky came to the area. He replaced a number of “weak” Ukrainian commanders and gave, as usual, order to counterattack. RuAF was then in the process of clearing Berduchi, Orlivka and Tonenke.
Russian forces were surprised by this sudden change from the Ukrainian side, but has now regrouped and resumed their offensive. The Ukrainian forces succeeded in partially retake the western parts of Berdychi, Orlivka and Tonenke before they were stopped.
I don’t want to sound like a NAFO troll, but it seems that the Ukrainian offensive was achieved by relentless attacks straight into Russian lines and their units was also subjected to a steady stream of Russian bombardment that inflicted heavy casualities on the Ukrainian units.
A second confirmed Abrams tank was destroyed in Berdychi. On this video you see Ukrainian armoured losses in Tonenke. The question is, was it worth it? I would say no. UkrAF slowed the Russian advance 3-4 days, but the already battered Ukrainian units must have lost most of their combat capability in this reckless counterattack.
Earlier this evening the situation was like this:
Berdychi Russian 20%, Grey 30% and Ukrainian 50%
Orlivka Russian 80% and Grey zone 20%
Tonenke Russian 25%, Grey 25% and Ukrainian 50%
In Tonenke the norther Datja area (25%) is included. Otherwise Tonenke would be divided into three equal parts.

https://twitter.com/MikaelValterss1/status/1764444559491141632

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2024 5:00 utc | 176

Beware the Ides of March

Posted by: Windship | Mar 4 2024 5:28 utc | 177

Situation in Novomikhailovka (DPR)
In the center of Novomikhailovka, the Storm detachment of the 155th OGvBrMP set up two flags of its unit. One is at the personal request of a veteran of the unit.
At the moment, the control of Russian troops in Novomikhailovka is established up to and including the Church of the Miracle of the Archangel Michael. However, the territory to the west and north of it still remains with the enemy.
The main unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this area is the 79th separate assault Brigade. In the center of the settlement, it still controls the school and the House of Culture, which are currently being fought for. The enemy puts up a fierce resistance, using communication moves between houses, each of which is turned into a stronghold.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine conduct intensive shelling from barrel artillery, which is clearly visible by the degree of destruction of residential buildings, and the tank periodically works. On the repulsed positions of the Ukrainian troops, the Marines found mainly foreign-made machine guns (German MG3 and American Browning). There are also FGM-148 Javelin anti-tank systems and Swedish AT4 grenade launchers. Snipers are actively working, and different types of drones are used.
The fierce resistance of the Ukrainian military, who are literally fighting to the last bullet in this locality, is explained by the strategic importance of Novomikhailovka. Its release will allow Russian troops to advance to Konstantinovka, which in the future will mean the loss of one of the supply routes to Ugledar by the enemy, as the Military Chronicle reported earlier.
🇷🇺 Marines of the Far East ⚓
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Posted by: too scents | Mar 4 2024 5:58 utc | 178

@ shadowbanned 38.
I would guess that you don’t have loved ones in Europe?.
Actually it’s the USA that needs to feel the blowback of it’s actions , especially in West Virginia and Washington, district of Caligula. Good and hard.
But I reckon there’s a good chance of that happening since the open US border is to good an opportunity for her myriad enemies to miss isn’t it?

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Mar 4 2024 6:39 utc | 179

Anonymous | Mar 4 2024 0:09 utc | 137
…Russia gained … two ten-thousandths of a bee’s dick … in xxyx timeframe
It’s.
Not.
About.
Territory.
>why the fuck is this so hard to understand?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2024 6:54 utc | 180

You have to be able to keep the people you already control satisfied before trying to assimilate more and as we know the Soviets had already bitten off more then they could swallow as it was.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 3 2024 22:29 utc | 117
Very good observation!
And very overlooked in the history of the ussr.
The country was raised to the ground in the western regions.

Posted by: jpc | Mar 4 2024 8:28 utc | 181

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 4 2024 6:54 utc | 180
Because territory is something tangible. Everything else is not – and, therefore, harder to understand.
But let’s face it: Territory is the only value that Ukraine has for the West.
Our politicians sadly note that the territory that is most valuable to them is the territory they are least likely to get a hold of.
Like Crimea. Like the Donbass.

Posted by: Martina | Mar 4 2024 9:07 utc | 182

Weapons, ordnance, armor, supplies, logistics, support?
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 4 2024 4:56 utc | 175
Was that a problem for Ukr “strategists”? Kamikaze is the name, no strategy, just destruction Gaza style, keep Russia busy, losing people and resources, while they party in Kiev where there’s no war. Are you not thrilled Paramount Pictures has put a $115m budget for “The Price of Victory”, a movie about great Zeli itself?
You have to be able to keep the people you already control satisfied before trying to assimilate more and as we know the Soviets had already bitten off more then they could swallow as it was.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 3 2024 22:29 utc | 117
Look who is the anti-communist here… You do understand US prints basically unlimited money, right? You must think all nato countries are so “satisfied” they’re expanding into Asia because it’s pure bliss, they want to help the pagans!

Posted by: rk | Mar 4 2024 9:14 utc | 183

Posted by: Martina | Mar 4 2024 9:07 utc | 182
I think it’s done on pourpouse.
Everything is tangible, they simply choose to show the data that best suites their bullshit.
Think about Adveeka, it’s a small fraction of the land but it was a fortress that take years to build and a lot of money.
Now it can became an asset for rf, rebuild it and make it a RF defense line.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 4 2024 9:21 utc | 184

Over the last few days things have clearly escalated to uncharted territory.
NATO has put Russia in the tough position. Against the wall forced to declare war on NATO.
They have no choice. NATO has put them in a lock.
What will they do?
Posted by: Comandante | Mar 3 2024 17:24 utc | 28
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Things have taken a more serious turn. The talk of troops on the ground and the direct involvement of Germany in destroying the bridge is definitely as escalation. I think that’s why Simonyan published the audio. She sees it as a serious development, and I assume the people who gave her the audio see it the same way and are concerned that Russia seems to have no response except Putin’s nuclear war threat. It’s not hard to see how things very quickly could get out of hand. A lot of people, in Germany and elsewhere, are no longer playing with a full deck and are beginning to lose it. If NATO does these things, will nuclear war be Russia’s response? Just seems like a dangerous game of one-upmanship is being played.

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Mar 4 2024 9:24 utc | 185

There are dark times for Russia coming.
The West is apparently ready to take Kaliningrad. They would put Russia into dilemma: Defeat and loss of Kaliningrad or nuclear war.
Posted by: vargas | Mar 3 2024 22:01 utc | 108
On the contrary, it puts the west in a dilemma. If it decides to attack Kaliningrad, it runs the risk of a nuclear exchange. Its the wests choice…not Russias.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 3 2024 22:13 utc | 113

The West thinks that Russia would not dare to use nuclear weapons.

Posted by: vargas | Mar 4 2024 9:32 utc | 186

Russia seems to have no response except …
Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Mar 4 2024 9:24 utc | 185

Unlike NATO’s “preparing to begin” munitions production Russia is in the field making progress.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 4 2024 9:32 utc | 187

Posted by: too scents | Mar 4 2024 9:32 utc | 187
It is a sad joke in any regard. Posturing, grandstanding, loudmouthing – that’s all there is in western politics.
Meanwhile, the conglomerates plan the next round of layoffs to make the line go up – maybe for the last time forerver.

Posted by: kspr | Mar 4 2024 9:50 utc | 188

Because territory is something tangible. Everything else is not – and, therefore, harder to understand.
But let’s face it: Territory is the only value that Ukraine has for the West.
Our politicians sadly note that the territory that is most valuable to them is the territory they are least likely to get a hold of.
Like Crimea. Like the Donbass.
Posted by: Martina | Mar 4 2024 9:07 utc | 182
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Oh, Martina, that is incredibly naive and flippant, and just plain wrong for you or anyone else to think and say.
What about the 600,000? or so DEAD on both sides? That’s pretty tangible to their families, is it not? All the dead equipment, spent ammo, and redirected MIC money is pretty tangible to the poor in EU, UK, US going without social services to fight a war which is not theirs.
Territory is only a means to an end, for both sides. There’s billions in untapped resources under it, as well as “the richness” of its people … which only Russia cares about. They are pretty tangible too, aren’t they? Russia has absorbed some 2.5M refugees in 2 years; the EU maybe 10M Ukies. That’s all very tangible for their hosts.
The geo-political strategic goals of both sides are actually moronically simple to understand and are only REPRESENTED by territory lost or gained, weapons, and troops lost. Land will grow back, towns get rebuilt, one day. But Ukraine’s demographics are UTTERLY FUCKED for 4 generations or longer. Is that not tangible enough for you?
Crimea and Donbass, for Russia, are homelands. For Ukraine, they are some patriotic fantasy. For the West they are a proxy battlefield against Russia for resources, naval control, NATO interference, and their Russophobic ideology. All that shit is VERY tangible to most people in this forum.
All the mapping neurotics are as shortsighted as each other. It’s like they play for squares on a chequerboard. Yeah, it’s soooo easy to push a mouse around and draw coloured arrows …FOR MONEY. Charlatans, the lot.
End of rant 🙂 Sorry, but your post was infantile.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 4 2024 9:57 utc | 189

Because if we do this, then erroneous use may occur, the rocket may fall on kindergarten, there will again be casualties among civilians. These aspects should be taken into account.

Note the “again”.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 4 2024 10:01 utc | 190

So please, source of your quote, I can read German and so does B.
Thanks!
Posted by: Naive | Mar 3 2024 23:38 utc | 131
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Well, then you can read here without any problems?
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https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/

Posted by: Ossi | Mar 4 2024 10:16 utc | 191

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 4 2024 9:57 utc | 189
Those untapped resources are part of the territory. Which is why we want the territory.
Listen to politicians complain that Russia is so rich in resources, why should Russia be allowed to get these resources as well?
As for the people – as far as our politicians are concerned, they are Russians.
Unless they hate Russia and can be used against Russia.
Yes, the people who fled West or East are tangible. But Russia could actually use them.
For us, they are useless. We never thought they would stay here so long.
Don’t bother replying. I will take my infantile opinions elsewhere.

Posted by: Martina | Mar 4 2024 10:24 utc | 192

Posted by: whirlX | Mar 3 2024 19:41 utc | 70
Thanks for a great analysis, I mistook their suggestion to imply something of Rafale operational characteristics other than weapon compatibility. Agreed it’s little more than an annoyance at current levels, like those French glide bombs, 50 per month as a future goal when that’s less than RF now often uses in a day. Adapting aircraft to launch preprogrammed cruise missiles makes sense so long as there are sacrificial airframes available (or some political goal), after than the ground launch option should be expected. I think it’s already almost the case that missiles have to be dealt with when they’re in the air because dispersed and camouflaged ground launch isn’t a huge tech leap (Tu-141) yet it’s an order of magnitude more difficult to suppress the launch infrastructure.
On the ground forces, it’s impossible to get ideal quality across such a large force and front, with the inevitable loss of talent due to constant injury and death amongst the best in high risk roles, where every error is magnified by opposing media operations. I don’t think the command is even trying to advance quickly, or it’s advancing as quickly as a certain risk threshold allows, everyone saw what happened to Ukraine’s counteroffensive advancing across open ground, there’d have to be a way to combat known missile, artillery and drone threats for the duration of any large operation that required forces to break cover.
Perhaps in ground ops what we see is a plateau due the inherent difficulty of operating at such a huge scale, on a nearly transparent battlefield, against an enemy that is often oblivious to its own losses, where the goal is fundamentally one of attrition. Even if, in principle, it was possible to much earlier encircle Avdeyevka with surveillance drones, then hit anything moving in or out while systematically reducing the whole site to rubble with glide bombs, that would only account for the opposing forces trapped at that time. Looked at dispassionately, the horror of fighting over an industrial zone that’s sure to be obliterated in any case can become logical.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 4 2024 10:51 utc | 193

Posted by: Ossi | Mar 4 2024 10:16 utc | 191
This anti-spiegel is an interesting web, thanks.
There has been much speculation who leaked the conversation how Germany might give Ukraine “Taurus” missiles without appearing directly involved. Some say the Russians wiretapped the conversation. Others say a German officer might have leaked, to avoid Germany entering in more direct conflict with Russia.
I would like to propose a third possibility: this may have been leaked by a US three-letter agency. The leak exposes the German military, and makes it harder to give Ukraine advanced German missiles. This is a cost. But the advantage is that the leak strengthens Russians in their belief that Germany cannot be trusted, makes the gap between Germany and Russia bigger, and makes it more difficult for Germany to have a normal trade relationship with Russia after the war.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 4 2024 11:02 utc | 194

Breaking! What will the end game look like:
https://youtu.be/RpMJzGqZDI0

Posted by: blueswede | Mar 4 2024 11:18 utc | 195

But the advantage is that the leak strengthens Russians in their belief that Germany cannot be trusted, makes the gap between Germany and Russia bigger, and makes it more difficult for Germany to have a normal trade relationship with Russia after the war.
Posted by: Passerby | Mar 4 2024 11:02 utc | 194
A plausible a theory as is out there!
It’s been posited that the vassalage of Europe is also in play.

Posted by: jpc | Mar 4 2024 11:26 utc | 196

Posted by: Lurk | Mar 3 2024 15:37 utc | 4

If the German body politic fails to investigate the hierarchical scope of this deep-reaching transgression or fails to respond appropriately and proportionally to it, the German people have all reason (as if they hadn’t enough already) to revolt against a political class complicit in various acts of treason.

Maybe not treason, but violation of other laws such as section 13 of the International Criminal Code:
https://freie-sachsen.info/category/aktuelles/
https://freie-sachsen.info/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Strafanzeige_Bundeswehr_Krim-Bruecke.pdf

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 4 2024 11:27 utc | 197

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 3 2024 19:43 utc | 71

The proper response to a bloody nose at the Kerch bridge (by the Russians) is to just soldier on. They have had to eat shit before. Look at Nord Stream. The Russians are not hysterical female Western politicians to need to make an immediate response, for public consumption and for false pride.
I predict they would just keep grinding in the Donetsk. Use the overland route for Crimea supply. Repair the bridge (unless it’s deemed that the West can take it out again easily). But basically just keep fighting the war in the East. The counteroffensive was a way more serious threat to Crimea than the Kerch bridge PR show.

Agree, and very good characterization: “hysterical female Western politicians”.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 4 2024 11:30 utc | 198

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 3 2024 9:59 utc | 235

I personally find it weird how readily some people, even here, take the “revealed” Istanbul agreement details at face value as a complete and whole truth.
Posted by: boneless | Mar 3 2024 7:15 utc | 207
Look, please pay attention for one short moment. Putin himself in the Carlson interview barely a couple of weeks ago, intended as another APPEAL to the US to please enter into peace/ceasefire negotiations with us, pointed out yet again for the UMPTEENTH TIME how important and how close the Istanbul Negotiations got to an AGREEMENT to stop fighting and for Russia to return to the Borders as at February 2022. THat all would have been well back then.
PUTIN said it – not me. Putin has used the itemised agreements multiple times since April 2022! So please take your insulting opinionated conjectures and shove it. I am not interested in your opinions about me at all, not ever. 🙂

you are simply lying
Putin didn’t said anything about …Russia to return to the Borders as at February 2022… in the interview !
besides lying ; are you someone who thinks that the TIKTOK approach is the right one?
here some real quotes for all NOT-TICKTOKer

Tucker Carlson: Right. My question is almost specific, it was, of course, not a defense of Nazism. Otherwise, it was a practical question. You don’t control the entire country, you don’t seem like you want to. So, how do you eliminate that culture, or an ideology, or feelings, or a view of history, in a country that you don’t control? What do you do about that?
Vladimir Putin: You know, as strange as it may seem to you, during the negotiations in Istanbul we did agree that – we have it all in writing – neo-Nazism would not be cultivated in Ukraine, including that it would be prohibited at the legislative level.
Mr. Carlson, we agreed on that. This, it turns out, can be done during the negotiation process. And there is nothing humiliating for Ukraine as a modern civilized state. Is any state allowed to promote Nazism? It is not, is it? That is it.

Tucker Carlson: I am definitely interested. But from the other side it seems like it could devolve, evolve into something that brings the entire world into conflict, and could initiate a nuclear launch, and so why don’t you just call Biden and say, “Let’s work this out”?
Vladimir Putin: What’s there to work out? It’s very simple. I repeat, we have contacts through various agencies. I will tell you what we are saying on this matter and what we are conveying to the US leadership: “If you really want to stop fighting, you need to stop supplying weapons. It will be over within a few weeks. That’s it. And then we can agree on some terms before you do that, stop.”
What’s easier? Why would I call him? What should I talk to him about? Or beg him for what? “You’re going to deliver such and such weapons to Ukraine. Oh, I’m so afraid, please don’t do that.” What is there to talk about?

Tucker Carlson: But do you think at this point – as of February 2024 – he has the latitude, the freedom to speak with you or government directly, which would clearly help his country or the world? Can he do that, do you think?
Vladimir Putin: Why not? He considers himself head of state, he won the elections. Although we believe in Russia that the coup d’état is the primary source of power for everything that happened after 2014, and in this sense, even today’s government is flawed. But he considers himself the president, and he is recognized by the United States, all of Europe and practically the rest of the world in such a capacity – why not? He can.
We negotiated with Ukraine in Istanbul, we agreed, he was aware of this. Moreover, the negotiation group leader, Mr. Arakhamia is his last name, I believe, still heads the faction of the ruling party, the party of the President in the Rada. He still heads the Presidential faction in the Rada, the country’s parliament, he still sits there. He even put his preliminary signature on the document I am telling you about. But then he publicly stated to the whole world: “We were ready to sign this document, but Mr. Johnson, then the Prime Minister of Great Britain, came and dissuaded us from doing this saying it was better to fight Russia. They would give us everything we needed to return what was lost during the clashes with Russia. And we agreed with this proposal.” Look, his statement has been published. He said this publicly.
Can they return to this or not? The question is: do they want it or not?
Further on, President of Ukraine issued a decree prohibiting negotiations with us. Let him cancel that decree and that’s it. We have never refused negotiations indeed. We hear all the time: is Russia ready? Yes, we have not refused! It was them who publicly refused. Well, let him cancel his decree and enter into negotiations. We have never refused.
And the fact that they obeyed the demand or persuasion of Mr. Johnson, the former Prime Minister of Great Britain, seems ridiculous and very sad to me. Because, as Mr. Arakhamia put it: “We could have stopped these hostilities, this war a year and a half ago already. But the British persuaded us, and we refused this.” Where is Mr. Johnson now? And the war continues.

Tucker Carlson: Well, sure, you have already said it — I didn’t think you meant it as an insult — because you have already said, correctly, it’s been reported that Ukraine was prevented from negotiating peace settlement by the former British prime minister acting on behalf of the Biden administration. Of course, it’s our satellite, big countries control small countries, that’s not new. And that is why I asked about dealing directly with the Biden administration, which is making these decisions, not president Zelensky of Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin: Well, if the Zelensky administration in Ukraine refused to negotiate, I assume that they did it under the instruction from Washington. If Washington believes it to be the wrong decision, let it abandon it, let it find a delicate excuse so that no one is insulted, let it come up with a way out. It was not us who made this decision, it was them, so let them go back on it. That is it.
However, they made the wrong decision and now we have to look for a way out of this situation, to correct their mistakes. They did it so let them correct it themselves. We support this.

Tucker Carlson: So, I just want to make sure I am not misunderstanding what you are saying — and I don’t think that I am — I think you are saying you want a negotiated settlement to what’s happening in Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin: Right. And we made it, we prepared a huge document in Istanbul that was initialled by the head of the Ukrainian delegation. He affixed his signature to the extract from the treaty, not the whole treaty but the extract. He put his signature and then he himself said: “We were ready to sign it and the war would have been over long ago, eighteen months ago. However, Prime Minister Johnson came, talked us out of it and we missed that chance.” Well, they missed it, they made a mistake, let them get back to that, that is all. Why do we have to bother ourselves and correct somebody else’s mistakes?
I know one can say it is our mistake, it was us who intensified the situation and decided to put an end to the war that started in 2014 in Donbass, as I have already said, by means of weapons. Let me get back to further in history, I already told you this, we were just discussing it. Let us go back to 1991 when we were promised that NATO would not be expanded, to 2008 when the doors to NATO opened, to the Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine declaring Ukraine a neutral state. Let us go back to the fact that NATO and US military bases, British bases started to appear on the territory of Ukraine creating threats for us. Let us go back to coup d’état in Ukraine in 2014. It is pointless though, isn’t it? We may go back and forth endlessly. But they stopped negotiations. Is it a mistake? Yes. Correct it. We are ready. What else is needed?

Posted by: ghiwen | Mar 4 2024 11:54 utc | 199

The latest rumor is that someone just dialed into the webex. I know in te workplace, it’s common to join by computer for the video or slideshow. But also to join by phone for better audio. With two different locations, one in a foreign hotel and the other in a fancy meeting room, they probably just ignored the extra, silent, participant, which just showed as a phone number.

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 4 2024 12:01 utc | 200