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March 15, 2024
Ukraine – France Already Lost In Odessa

The French president Emmanuel Micron has gone a bit crazy:

Europe’s credibility will be destroyed if Russia is allowed to win in Ukraine, Emmanuel Macron has warned, as he defended his refusal to rule out sending troops to the country.

The war in Ukraine is “existential for our Europe and for France”, Mr Macron said in the interview on France 2 and TF1.

“Do you think that the Poles, the Lithuanians, the Estonians, the Romanians and the Bulgarians could remain at peace for a second [in the event of a Russian victory in Ukraine]?” he asked. “If Russia wins this war, Europe’s credibility would be reduced to zero.”

Micron fails to recognize that Europe does not have any credibility it could lose. Just ask those ~150 countries who have not sanctioned Russia. They know very well that the 2014 U.S./EU coup in Kiev started the mess and that the failure, especially of France and Germany, to force Kiev to implement the Minsk agreements led to its escalation.

Failing as the guarantor of agreements without any attempts to enforce them leaves one's credibility behind.

Trying to regain land for Ukraine that it had lost a decade ago is similar nonsense:

"We are doing everything we can to help Ukraine defeat Russia, because I will say it very simply: There can be no lasting peace if there is no sovereignty, if there is no return to Ukraine's internationally recognized borders, including Crimea," Macron said during the TV interview.

Interestingly Micron does not say how he will attempt to achieve that. The front is cracking everywhere and Ukraine is running out of men who are capable and willing to fight.

France could probably send 30,000 troops to Ukraine but what good could those do? It does not have the troops and equipment for a real fight with Russia. The logistics alone, vulnerable to Russian attacks, would be a nightmare.

The France dream of ruling Odessa already died during the chaos at the end of the first world war 105 years ago (edited machine translation):


December 12, 1918. Renault tanks unloading in Odessa – bigger

Emmanuel Macron's statement about the possibility of introducing French troops to Ukraine and, in particular, to Odessa fell almost on a round date: exactly 105 years ago, the French army was already on Ukrainian territory. Very briefly, though. But the French had a considerable influence on the course of events. Although not at all in favor of Ukraine: they did not allow the capture of Odessa by the troops of the Ukrainian People's Republic, transferred formal power over the city to the Russian White Guards, actually quarreled with the local rule of Hetman Grigoriev, who went over to the side of the Bolsheviks, which played a huge role in the subsequent military collapse of the UPR.

In the end, after several months of being in Southern Palmyra, the French troops were thoroughly decomposed by Bolshevik agitation, sang "Internationale" in pubs, and as a result, the French command decided to leave Odessa in early April 1919, calling it "unloading" the city in order to reduce the food shortage.

There were at that time French, Polish, Serbian, Greek, German, British and other troops involved. The Russians had split into Reds and Whites and several nationalistic Ukrainian groupings tried and failed to win a war against everyone else. The Cossack Hetman Grigoriev was probably the most interesting character of all. As is historically typical for his kind he and his troops fought for practically all parties in the war changing loyalties on a whim whenever convenient.

If France would again go to Odessa who could it really trust in a fight? The Nazi groupings? The government in Kiev which they mostly oppose? The Russia partisans who increase their activities in Ukraine day by day?

How would it react should such a missile strike, even by chance, would hit its troops camp?

Russians With Attitude @RWApodcast – 13:46 UTC · Mar 15, 2024

From what we have seen from Ukrainian media so far, today's Russian missile strike against an AFU temporary base in Odessa killed:
– Alexander Gostishev, former head of the National Police in Odessa, commander of the "Tsunami" "Assault Regiment" (formed from policemen, fought in Bakhmut, part of the "Liut" Brigade, an ongoing project to militarize and mobilize Ukrainian police staff to the frontlines)
– Sergey Tetyukhin, former deputy mayor of Odessa, who volunteered to join the AFU last year
– Dmitry Abramenko, deputy head of the National Police in Odessa
As the day goes on, more names might appear.

The French people for one do not seem to be interested in joining the mess:

In an Odoxa poll, 68 percent of French respondents said Macron's comments on Western troops in Ukraine were "wrong."

Macron's party will likely lose in the upcoming election to the European parliament. Let's hope that other leaders do not fall for the electioneering stunt he is providing with such nonsensical talk.

Comments

Grieved | Mar 15 2024 18:09 utc | 84
If they don’t attack, nato will plant there bad things, hit Crimea from there, sink more ships and eventually force them to attack and it still gets destroyed. So why not clear it and leave it in ruins as a military base? It’ll get hit afterwards anyway, now it’s part of the new forever war zone, repairs on the border are a waste of resources. But there’s no army available, all 5 soldiers are in Rabotino.

Posted by: rk | Mar 15 2024 18:42 utc | 101

Posted by: Roger | Mar 15 2024 18:18 utc | 87
In China the Party-state rules supreme and the rich capitalists will never be allowed to become oligarchs.

Except something like 80% of the ‘Princeling Class’ are millionaires and billionaires. Now supposedly Xi has gone to war with some of them and maybe he has effected huge changes such that this class, of which his family is a prominent member, is no more; but I very much doubt he could have done that in so short a period of time given how wealthy and influential that class is reported to be.
My point being that China, not surprisingly, is not as pure as depicted so indeed much more normal. Like other countries it has an upper class to whom accrue a relatively higher percent of national income. That said, clearly they have an excellent governance system that is both stable and remarkably responsive despite their humongous population.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 18:42 utc | 102

In all breathless reporting by msm.
No reference to the European citizens and their view’s and opinions.
Not a mention!
Anyone care to comment?

Posted by: jpc | Mar 15 2024 18:48 utc | 103

Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 18:30 utc | 94
Thanks for that.
That what you posted also opens another question on Ukraine. Why so many Jews? One quarter of all jews killed in the Nazi genocide of WWII were in Ukraine.
I believe the Russian Empire had some law that restricted Jews to the Pale which seems to be the area of current Ukraine and perhaps up into Belorus.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 18:51 utc | 104

@Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 15 2024 15:54 utc | 27
Not a surprise. But Ta for update.
A linguist should be able to figure it out – speaking in English!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 15 2024 18:51 utc | 105

“Agreed. Even with access to the ‘ours’ and ‘theirs’ issues of Macrons speech, it’s pretty clear from analysis of material interests and capabilities that the whole Ukraine project, although perhaps originated as a method of taking down Russia permanently, was by 2008’s financial crisis transformed into a US war against Europe. ”
Posted by: Honzo | Mar 15 2024 18:01 utc | 80
I agree but your timeline is too short.
US had been bombarding Europe with their twisted mortgage bond bombs from 2000 till 2008.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 15 2024 18:52 utc | 106

Re.post by james on Mar 15 2024 16:49 #51
i liked the accidental typo ~ micron for macron, too..
I was under the impression that Macron had his own Mini Me and he was called Micron. Does this mean that Macron has been sharing his thoughts with the bar as Micron?

Posted by: Quid Me Vexari | Mar 15 2024 18:56 utc | 107

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 15 2024 15:54 utc | 27
Thanks for the Escobar link, very interesting.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 15 2024 19:00 utc | 108

This is a photo of Macron and Micron.
https://www.ft.com/content/1a83cb28-29be-4211-9543-b421e2872a1a

Posted by: Angelo | Mar 15 2024 19:02 utc | 109

More disasters for the AFU. The nominally ‘Russian’ (but actually Ukrainian and NATO) forces they committed to the diversionary PR attack on Belgorad, has completely unexpectedly turned into a bloody failure. Sources tell of high casulaties and a disorganized rout before even reaching the border.
I believe Zelensky has already prepared his excuses, that the plan was leaked. Supposedly baby Hitler Budanov asked to pull the troops back but Zelensky refused. 2500 troops, 35 or more tanks and dozens of armored personnel carriers. These were brigades equipped to NATO standards, with Leopards and Bradley’s, backed up by UAV operators, the whole kitten kaboodle. Casulaties were heavy, with some 17 tanks out of action. For comparison this would essentially be half of Canada’s entire tank fleet, or 1/10th of Germanys.
This is not winning, even if you’re a cocaine addict. This stunt was militarily ill-advised and has squandered the lives of many men and wasted much materiel. Bravo, NATO.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 15 2024 19:15 utc | 110

Posted by: Roger | Mar 15 2024 18:18 utc | 87
I don’t think you’re looking deep enough to find the meta strategy. It’s obvious enough- for the Americentric financiers to maintain their wealth and power in perpetuity. To achieve this, it’s necessary to change operational strategies- just as the ‘divide and devour Russia using EU minions’ strategy was changed to the strategy of ‘use proxy war in Ukraine and ME to isolate and destroy EU as an intra-empire competitor.’ Hot war to cold war, back to hot war, back to cold war- whatever the reality on the ground calls for.
The fundamental ‘reality on the ground’ that nobody in the west seems able to address is that global finance capitalism has reached its moribund phase. The US devouring the EU is the last major opportunity to restore some stability to the system and soften the structural contradictions of capitalism- for a while. Internal looting is a self-limiting stop-gap. The PTB already owns the economy, the government, and the culture, further concentration of capital is superfluous in terms of control, and the concept of ‘profits’ only matters to low-level players. The existential question that Marx floated regarding the future of late stage capitalism needs, from the perspective of the PTB, to be resolved in a way that secures the existing control of the PTB in a more stable configuration. The underpinnings of this are already well advanced- robots, AI, and the use of money purely as a mechanism of social control, abandoning its role as the mechanism of profit-taking and concentration of capital. There is no longer any power base in the capitalist class, the middle class, or the working class that can challenge the financial class- unless they persist on the Marie Antoinette path of creating mass, focused popular rage against themselves. So they aren’t going to.
As for Vivek, the only thing that’s important about his history is that A) he’s a Yale/WEF product; and B) that his money was made because he was given access to major amounts of capital- he was groomed to become a ‘rogue billionaire,’ he’s a class operative like Musk. He was pushed into position to siphon off dissatisfied Dems and the expected-to-be-leaderless MAGAs with a more ‘sane,’ articulate, intellectual presentation, but withdrew after capturing enough public attention to be relevant in the next electoral cycle, when the country is likely to be thirsting for someone who appears competent to dismantle neoliberalism, the neocons, the Clintonite bandit gang, and all the various tools of Wokism without going into full jack-boot fascism and/or reactionary theocracy, either of which can present new challenges of control to the PTB. “Benevolent Authoritarianism” will be the theme.

Posted by: Honzo | Mar 15 2024 19:15 utc | 111

Posted by: rk | Mar 15 2024 18:42 utc | 100
Found something that supports your assertions from the other day. One wonders what the truth is.
https://t.me/vysokygovorit/14996

There is a fly in the ointment that really spoils the barrel of honey and it is called “the time of coordination of fire damage.” Where we are gradually getting rid of this terrifying system, when it takes a significant amount of time to coordinate and approve targets of destruction, there we see the defeat of Iris Highmars, Patriots, and enemy military formations at the awards ceremony, and “under the eyes” from a drone live.
In the same places where the coordinators, shaking their cheeks, spend *hours/days looking at an object, for example, equipment standing in the forest or enemy personnel who stopped for a short time in the air traffic police, everything is exactly the opposite. The equipment leaves, the personnel dissolve, the bomb arrives in a completely empty place (or does not arrive at all), and our soldiers have to destroy both of them in battle. As soon as the system everywhere is built to the standard of modern warfare, the enemy’s losses will increase exponentially. And it’s okay that we couldn’t and didn’t understand, everyone understands everything perfectly, but apparently at some stage of the approvals, a rat sits somewhere and eats the reports, not allowing them to reach the decision-maker.
Modern warfare requires an immediate response from the reconnaissance and fire system. Reconnaissance detected a bomb/missile and the enemy died. This is an axiom.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 15 2024 19:24 utc | 112

Posted by: Honzo | Mar 15 2024 18:01 utc | 80:

The progress of the war in Ukraine makes this crystal clear- there was never a chance of ‘winning’ on the ground, the propaganda about restoring Ukraine’s 2014 borders was absurd ‘no peace’ propaganda, Russia was, unsurprisingly to anyone who had been paying attention to the global economy, sanction proof- but the EU was not. The ‘sanctions’ war was not against Russia, it was against the EU. The US simply ignores its own sanctions when it suits them, and profits by selling energy to EU at inflated prices. EU is no longer a competitor- a victory in a classic imperialist war against rival ’empires’ (the EU only imagining itself one, and now getting the smack down).
The destruction of Nordstream, the disarming of NATO by donations to Ukraine, the movement of German industry to the US (already begun), these are not accidents, they are essential parts of US planning for this war. The desire outcome of the SMO is, for the US, ‘no peace,’ a new cold war that will keep Germany, in particular, from getting the help it needs from Russia or the ME to energize economic recovery, and to gradually strangle trade with China until it can be replaced with (German) manufactures coming out of the US.

Nice post! You stated everything that needs to be stated to awake Europeans. How it did not awake the EU leaders is sort of understandable-they could have been bought; they knew their elected positions are dictated by the PTB; the could have dirty laundries in the hands of PTB; etc. etc. But how the supposedly educated populaces of EU nations, ones generally considered the most educated, informed, and politically eschewed populations of all, can be so ignorant as to not see the points you made, even well before Feb. 2022, sure has surprised me for the past few years.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 15 2024 19:26 utc | 113

103
Once upon a time … Judaism was a Religion.
A Religion that spread like wildfire among women.
A Religion that was present “in all the nations of the world” (Flavius Josephus) that is to say the Persian world, the Greek world and the Roman world, which was the whole world seen from the Mediterranean of the 1st century.
After the expansion of Christianity and Islam the rabbis decided not to be a religion and with the passage of time forged an ethnic group: the Yiddish people.
And the Yiddish people prospered by finding a niche right on the border between Catholics and Christians. “Ukraine” means border. The Yiddish people prospered demographically by finding a niche in the Totem Pole of Poland-Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus:
A) Catholic Aristocracy.
B) Yiddish people
C) Christian peasantry
Paradise on earth for A and B; hell for C.
And came “The Deluge”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(history)

Posted by: Simon | Mar 15 2024 19:27 utc | 114

Posted by: rk | Mar 15 2024 18:42 utc | 100
Grieved | Mar 15 2024 18:09 utc | 84

If they don’t attack, nato will plant there bad things, hit Crimea from there, sink more ships and eventually force them to attack and it still gets destroyed. So why not clear it and leave it in ruins as a military base? It’ll get hit afterwards anyway, now it’s part of the new forever war zone, repairs on the border are a waste of resources. But there’s no army available, all 5 soldiers are in Rabotino.

Yes, you’ve been right to post it here as a part of Your current opinion, but only til today’s current “WAR SCENARIO” as an objective impression described, even by CNN, or by RT or by Dima, you’ll fail to make any ad-hoc conclusions acc.to that consequences (WW-III like Germans), esp. towards the French ever craziest “elected” President’s decicion I ever heard ?
Pls note:
Mr. Macron is an extract of education as Sorosch’s Deep State Founder, altogether with v.d.Liars(EU girls) + B.Gates + Pharma-Pfizer’s guys – having forgotten the Covid-Area ..?
So keep calm. Nothing will occur as of like GERMAN BRIDGES.
Won’t occor. RUSSIANS are aware of You (Mr. Biden/Scholz/Macron/Nuland & Hillary guys – but RF is NOT AFRAID of You … Understood that ? ..
Not for you, but to my “Brothers here”, Canada – within its regional state regions – is one of the most popular corruptive states in the world

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 19:28 utc | 115

Doctor Eleven | Mar 15 2024 19:15 utc | 110
I was reading a bit about that group suicide yesterday. A small initial force did attack the outskirts of one Russian town but were quickly defeated there. The Russians had remotely mine the area behind them to prevent followup forces and when that initial group retreated back the way thy had come, they were completely destroyed in the mine field.
Apparently pro Russian people in Ukraine were sending a lot of information through on locations of the rear areas/backup forces and the majority were destroyed in those areas without ever crossing the border.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 19:29 utc | 116

RE: Posted by: Roger | Mar 15 2024 18:18 utc | 87
Yeah, sums up the next 4-5 years for EU/US at least.
Not sure UK will make it that long, and if course, everyday these days w/o an hot WW, vs this WW is a gift that ought not to be taken for granted.
Anyways, spot on with the US financial crystal ball there.
Only one other addition, Russia is almost done with their preparations with Iron curtain drop on West. Medevev always spout’s garbage, but the latest “f-**off” regarding Romania, and the latest “14th” round of sanctions. I’m just saying, when Russia is completely ready and ready to expel West etc.. another huge blowback from messing more with Russia is coming. The first blowback hit EU, even Japan & Seoul.
The next and final blowback from “responses” will hit US & UK as well.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 15 2024 19:31 utc | 117

‘Europe’s credibility will be destroyed if Russia is allowed to win in Ukraine, Emmanuel Macron has warned, as he defended his refusal to rule out sending troops to the country’
I believe Macaroon thinks of credibility as what a medieval lord has in relation to his serfs, total power over them. And Mac, like most of Europe, sees Russia as its serf. Russia doesn’t know its place, and the West much teach them a lesson. If Russia isn’t put in its place by the West, the West loses its credibility. They don’t get that the rest of the world doesn’t see it their way, and the ROW is working at going around these narcissistic psychopaths with their feudal mindsets and isolating them into irrelevance.
An indication of the delusional state of much of Europe is that most are willing to deplete their stores of weaponry beneath the threshold needed for their own self-protection, to send to Ukraine. If they really believed that Russia was likely to invade them after it finishes Ukraine, a rational actor would seek to protect its own borders rather than send its resources into a black hole. The old saw ‘we’re fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here’ was a useful trope for the US, as it never intended to put boots on the ground against Russia. For Europe to march under that banner is totally bonkers. This is no temporary insanity.

It’s because the elites/bankers/jews/whatever choose the worst dregs of humanity, the ones at a genetic dead end, into positions of power. Why? Because that trash has nothing to lose. They’re so ugly, stupid or diseased that they would never have a normal life in any kind of normal society. They’re the ones whose branch would have been culled from the family tree many generations ago in any natural environment. . .
Posted by: Michael A | Mar 15 2024 17:43 utc | 77

It’s an old tradition in Europe. Check out the Hapsburg dynasty and especially the bio of Charles V.

Posted by: Mike R | Mar 15 2024 19:34 utc | 118

Forget Odessa, Russia has much bigger problems in Belgorod and the surrounding areas inside Russia proper. WTF is going on over there?
Posted by: bored | Mar 15 2024 18:18 utc | 88

More to the point the Ukrainians DIDN”T field a force capable of attacking insider Russia. What they did was field a force NOT capable of attacking inside Russia.
It’s not like they broke through the line and 4 armoured divisions poured through the breech … it got shut down in a matter of hours with around 1000 casualties on the Ukrainian side. A waste of lives. Maybe you could call it recon in force but more likely it’s a distraction to give them something to cheer about on the home front.

WTF is going on over there?

A war?

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 15 2024 19:40 utc | 119

HB_Norica | Mar 15 2024 19:40 utc | 120
That attempted cross border raid seemed aimed at taking one or two Russian towns for the voting period in the Russian elections.
But many of these Wiley E Coyote suicide stunts are also aimed at securing more western aid. The Previous river crossing/bridge head was for that purpose. Very few who were sent across the Dnieper returned.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 19:49 utc | 120

The first Palestinians
The first Palestinians to suffer the Old Testament Mental Software were the Hebrews, when an Aramean ruling class arrived in “the land of Canaan” with Persian power.
The second Palestinians to ‘enjoy’ the OT Mental Software were Ukrainian Christian peasants.
The OT Mental Software can be installed on any hardware.
In fact “our colonial project” (Vladimir Jabotinsky) was founded with British power (1917-) by Ukrainians, Poles, Lithuanians and Bielorussians, of an ethnicity, the Yiddish people, forged by the rabbis in late antique times from Italo-Roman, Persian-Iranian, Turkish, Syrian and Phoenician hardware.

Posted by: Simon | Mar 15 2024 19:58 utc | 121

b… these posts of yours. Whew! It’s a bit heavy, it makes me turn to something lighter like that story about Cara Delivingne’s house in LA catching on fire.
“The 35-year-old British supermodel – who has overcome some personal struggles recently – was not staying at the residence at the time of the dramatic blaze as she is currently in the UK playing Sally Bowles in Cabaret on London’s West End.
However, the heartbroken star appeared to confirm that her two beloved cats had perised in blaze, as she posted a snap of them to her Instagram account on Friday.
‘My heart is broken today. I cannot believe it. Life can change in a blink of an eye. So cherish what you have,’ she wrote across a picture of her pets.”
And – while I’m distracting myself with celebrity news, why can’t I load Ivanka Trump’s Instagram account?
https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trumps-style-has-done-360-since-ditching-donalds-campaign-2024-3
Anyway. Defence analyst Mike Mihajlovic posted a link to the interview with English voiceover translation. Thought I’d post it:
https://x.com/MihajlovicMike/status/1768426514859614582

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Mar 15 2024 19:59 utc | 122

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 15 2024 19:40 utc | 120

It’s not like they broke through the line and 4 armoured divisions poured through the breech … it got shut down in a matter of hours with around 1000 casualties on the Ukrainian side. A waste of lives. Maybe you could call it recon in force but more likely it’s a distraction to give them something to cheer about on the home front. ..

A war via WTF – yes, it’s even also that “beside” WTF.
What is China, what is India claiming for a PEACE IN UKR ? .. wait .. waiting ..
They are doing nothing(!) to rerally help the UKRANIAN remaining folk to keep its own for survival.
Or anywhere heard otherwise to help just today ..?
Even China + India (as RF partners) do not lean-out of the train window they just ongoing to leave on new US-Sanctions.
What sanctions they are afraid of? That’s not economical threats, that’s only recent military threats that they cannot react on in a proper manner.
So, that’s the ever ongoing pressure, USA MIL Guidance can make against the SE-Countries (Philippines, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia, Myanmar).
Nuland + its “Guys” my have been stopped a while, but its fraction is moving further ..
Let’s wait .. Nuland guys – more better as: NAZI guys – will return .. at least on local MONTANA areas/reservations .
Then, the final fight may begin on those locations – Dont forget the Red-Indians Self-Thinking guys …
Come on – visit me ..

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 20:03 utc | 123

Bruised Northerner | Mar 15 2024 19:59 utc | 123
Plenty of jokes begin with “An Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman…”
I guess jokes about a Frenchman, a German and a Pollack…
The_Real_Fly
@The_Real_Fly
France, Germany, Poland ‘united’ to prevent Russia victory in Ukraine: Macron
Pic https://twitter.com/Bundeskanzler/status/1768663587591974915/photo/1

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 20:07 utc | 124

Anyone care to comment?
Posted by: jpc | Mar 15 2024 18:48 utc | 102
It is not necessary to ask the opinion of the cattle.

Posted by: Naive | Mar 15 2024 20:10 utc | 125

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 19:49 utc | 121
As I understood, they were met by the Chechens. Go figure.

Posted by: Naive | Mar 15 2024 20:12 utc | 126

“And Mac, like most of Europe, sees Russia as its serf. Russia doesn’t know its place, and the West much teach them a lesson. If Russia isn’t put in its place by the West, the West loses its credibility.”
E x a c t l y
This is what the Russian ruling class does not understand.
All of us, Russians, Palestinians and Europeans are Ukrainian peasants.
The massacres of Palestinians, the war against Russia and our condition of serfs is the result of the same Western Mental Software: fusion of Roman imperial ideology with bloody fantasies that say: there is a people of ruling lords and serf.

Posted by: Simon | Mar 15 2024 20:14 utc | 127

Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 18:51 utc | 103
*** I believe the Russian Empire had some law that restricted Jews to the Pale which seems to be the area of current Ukraine and perhaps up into Belorus.***
There’s many peoples in the world (or no longer thus) could regard that as pampering.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 15 2024 20:16 utc | 128

Stonebird | Mar 15 2024 17:06 utc | 57–
Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 18:27 utc | 92–
Thanks for your replies. IMO, the Outlaw US Empire isn’t satisfied with the degree of defeat it laid onto Germany, so it wants Germany to violate the 4+2 Treaty and get further demolished by Russian military retaliation for Taurus strikes. In fact, Soloviev asked Lavrov directly last night about that treaty, but Lavrov skirted the answer. Did Russia realize that those German surnames belonged to American AF Generals? One would think so.
As for my short allusion to Alaska, just South of Nome is the strait that’s the choke-point for the Nothern Sea Route that I’ve wondered if the Outlaw US Empire was ever going to try and interdict as its installations in that part of Alaska are rather small. This 2004 map shows most installations are Alaskan National Guard and current base listings show nothing for the map-noted air base north of Nome, nor is there anything I could find in a short Yandex search. Of course, classified bases aren’t likely to appear online. However, given the emphasis on both Russia and China, the lack of basing close to Nome is a mind blower.
Anyway, I know Russia is bolstering its Arctic bases to support the Northern Sea Route and the civilian infrastructure. As for the abilities of those on the opposing sides, I very much suggest reading about those who’ve been through Russia’s meritocratic machinery to discover just how gross the disparity is, “Russian Meritocracy: Leaders of Russia Contest”.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 15 2024 20:16 utc | 129

Posted by: Chessmaster Z | Mar 15 2024 16:42 utc | 47
“…as the significantly weaker party diplomatically, economically and technologically compared to the entire western block…”
Are you fvcked in the head?

Posted by: Boo | Mar 15 2024 20:18 utc | 130

It is not useful to listen to someone sniffing cocaine.
Otherwise it is always enjoyable to read La Fontaine:
The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
A Frog espied an Ox that seemed to her of a noble size.
She, no bigger than an egg,
Envious, stretches, puffs up and labours
To match the animal in size,
Saying: ‘Hey watch me sister;
Is this enough? tell me; am I there yet?
-No way! -How about now? -Not at all. – Is that it ?
You aren’t even close.’ The puny, pretentious creature
Swelled up so much that she croaked.
The world is full of people who aren’t too wise:
People with some money wish to build like royalty,
Every minor prince has ambassadors,
Every marquis wants servants.

Posted by: Naive | Mar 15 2024 20:19 utc | 131

Naive | Mar 15 2024 20:12 utc | 127
I had read border forces or something like that but may well include Chechen’s. Possibly placed there ahead of time as Russian intel most likely aware of Ukie/Britsh plans in that direction?
Most though seem to have been destroyed remotely, artillery, drones ect.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 20:22 utc | 132

Stonebird | Mar 15 2024 17:06 utc | 57–
Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 18:27 utc | 92–
Thanks for your replies. IMO, the Outlaw US Empire isn’t satisfied with the degree of defeat it laid onto Germany, so it wants Germany to violate the 4+2 Treaty and get further demolished by Russian military retaliation for Taurus strikes. In fact, Soloviev asked Lavrov directly last night about that treaty, but Lavrov skirted the answer. Did Russia realize that those German surnames belonged to American AF Generals? One would think so.
As for my short allusion to Alaska, just South of Nome is the strait that’s the choke-point for the Nothern Sea Route that I’ve wondered if the Outlaw US Empire was ever going to try and interdict as its installations in that part of Alaska are rather small. This 2004 map shows most installations are Alaskan National Guard and current base listings show nothing for the map-noted air base north of Nome, nor is there anything I could find in a short Yandex search. Of course, classified bases aren’t likely to appear online. However, given the emphasis on both Russia and China, the lack of basing close to Nome is a mind blower.
Anyway, I know Russia is bolstering its Arctic bases to support the Northern Sea Route and the civilian infrastructure. As for the abilities of those on the opposing sides, I very much suggest reading about those who’ve been through Russia’s meritocratic machinery to discover just how gross the disparity is, “Russian Meritocracy: Leaders of Russia Contest”.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 15 2024 20:23 utc | 133

Reality far exceeds fiction.
The striking video of Macron caught and shown as a trophy is from a distopian science fiction film.
Neither they, the rag dolls, nor we, horrified spectators, have power: we are Ukraine peasants (ca. 1500-1600)

Posted by: Simon | Mar 15 2024 20:26 utc | 134

Again I think that Macron is just sabre rattling because he knows fine well that Ukraine is on the verge of losing, if it hasn’t already done so. I believe that French and Nato troops are already fighting in Ukraine, under the guise of mercenaries, as you rightly point out the logistics don’t favour an all out French attack.
Of course thousands of French troops have been kicked out of African countries recently such a Niger, Macron might be eyeing up some sort of colonial imposition somewhere around the globe.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 15 2024 20:35 utc | 135

Merc deaduns 🇩🇪 From Germany — 235 (arrived) and 88 respectively
88.
When IRL becomes a 4chan meme.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 15 2024 20:36 utc | 136

karlof1 | Mar 15 2024 20:23 utc | 133
I read something along the lines of US preparing for arctic warfare So there could well be something happening in that part of Alaska But woke America with its TV generals….
Martyanov had a piece on The new class of US submarine being put back until 2040. Total ineptness is across the board in the west now.
TV generals and politicians vs meritocracies Russia and China…

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 20:40 utc | 137

More powergames
Rotchild poking Prince Charles in the breast
https://sonar21.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Screenshot-2024-02-24-at-17.08.34-1708794565.3575.png

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Mar 15 2024 20:42 utc | 138

There’s an interesting article in the “Berliner Zeitung”
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/geopolitik/taurus-details-stille-im-raum-nach-vortrag-des-generalinspekteurs-vor-abgeordneten-li.2196937
German, but DeepL is your friend.
It says that the Generalinspekteur of the Bundeswehr Carsten Breuer talked to the Defense Committee of the Bundestag and made it’s members dropping their jaw.
He stated that giving the Taurus to Ukraine would mean that Germany would lose control over the Taurus completely.
Because some mysterious special hardware would have to be given to Ukraine, which then is lacking in Germany. It doesn’t say what exactly is so unique that it can’t be simply reproduced.
After Breuer’s talk there was complete silence in the room – even among the staunch supporters of Ukraine.

Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Mar 15 2024 20:42 utc | 139

New articles on the New Left Review’s sidecar today. One by Dylan Riley on Macron and the genius of Bonapartism. He looks into the reasons why the same solution cannot work in the USA.
“…Since the early 1990s, however, Bonapartism has reemerged stronger than before. In Macron it assumes a classic form. The right of the Rassemblement National and the left of La France insoumise (the ‘extremes’, in the parlance of the quality press) balance one another, while the radical centre – the bourgeois bloc anatomized by Serge Halimi – is free to pursue its own interests, while also claiming to protect the dignity of the nation, wider humanity and now the ecosphere itself. A remarkable political formula, as Mosca would have put it.
“This raises an important question. Why can the American capitalist class, certainly the most powerful in history, not reproduce it?….”
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/bonapartist-solutions
Also on sidecar is this article by Maro d’Earama on the Farmers Revolt in the EU:
“… the EU allocates more than a third of its total budget (€58.3 billion out of a total €169.5 billion in 2022) to farmers, though they produce only 2.5% of the Union’s GDP and represent only 4% of European workers (and actually much less in the large producing countries – France, Italy, Germany, Spain and the Netherlands – because a third reside in Romania alone). German farmers receive around €7 billion from the EU as well as €2.4 billion from the German federal state. The protests are all the more astonishing when one considers average net profits: €115,400 for the 2022/23 crop year, marking an 45% increase over the previous one. Producers of fodder for livestock farming did especially well, with more than €143,000, while arable farmers made an average of €120,000. The farmers are therefore protesting after a record year of profits…”
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/leurope-profonde
Finally there is an article on the war, dating back to the 1990s in the Democratic Republic of the Congo https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/intractable-crisis
Nothing on the vexed question of Mrs Macron however. That’s Marxists for you- nothing about the really big issues.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 15 2024 20:49 utc | 140

US had been bombarding Europe with their twisted mortgage bond bombs from 2000 till 2008.
Posted by: canuck | Mar 15 2024 18:52 utc | 105
True, but the US has always been doing one thing or another to prevent Europe from becoming an independent rival. I was referring specifically to the change in the Ukraine strategy, which the Neocons originally envisioned as actually resulting in the dismemberment of Russia. Most of the Neocon operatives still think that was the point, but they’re just minions, and True Believers are useful maskirovka up to a point. We’ve passed that point, so the Neocon operatives are being removed from the board. They are no longer needed either to conquer Russia (an obsolete policy for a long time) or to conquer Europe, which is well in hand. They get in the way of the kind of nuanced Cold War that the PTB now requires.

Posted by: Honzo | Mar 15 2024 20:49 utc | 141

Do you remember when Bush tried to put his arm on the shoulder of Vladimir Putin, some 25 years ago? There was a video of how V.V.P reacted to this attempt, clearly patronising.
= = =
.Re:
Reality far exceeds fiction.
The striking video of Macron caught and shown as a trophy is from a distopian science fiction film.
Neither they, the rag dolls, nor we, horrified spectators, have power: we are Ukraine peasants (ca. 1500-1600)
Posted by: Simon | Mar 15 2024 20:26 utc | 134

Posted by: LogosApplied | Mar 15 2024 20:50 utc | 142

The French tank that is being unloaded in the 1918 picture is a “Renault FT“.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 15 2024 20:52 utc | 143

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 20:22 utc | 132
on reply to:
Naive | Mar 15 2024 20:12 utc | 127

I had read border forces or something like that but may well include Chechen’s. Possibly placed there ahead of time as Russian intel most likely aware of Ukie/Britsh plans in that direction?
Most though seem to have been destroyed remotely, artillery, drones ect.

Dear Peter AU1 – you may have knowledge about this and then and everywhere just today,
and even infos about Russian history –
but – excuse me – You are a small little bit to much “BEING ALLOWED HERE SPEAKING AS AN REPRESENTTIVE” of this Forum.
Think about, Your comments mostly are valuable as a bgood info, but also are some odd one, but You are not the “Chief” here to regulate any comments, that are not posted each “SECO’ND”, as you did.
You more are puplishing your “personal opinion” – minute by minute every 10 minutes – Your opinion won’t get more understandable or plausible.
Think about – pls. do post in a less frequecies mode – and then with a more compact infos in “1” post..
Thanks.

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 20:52 utc | 144

Serious question – why would Zelensky be so fuckin’ stupid as to waste 2500 men and 35 tanks in a vain effort to show that Ukraine can still go on the offensive?
Wouldn’t those men and resources have been better utilize trying to breakthrough in Robotyne, which is now practically lost?
This guy is Russia’s BFF. What a fucking moron!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 15 2024 20:55 utc | 145

Nice trolling but I wonder if they know more than they are letting on …..

Maria Zakharova:
The entire United Kingdom is searching for missing Princess Kate Middleton. “So-and-so” has not appeared in public for more than 2 months.
It seems, as Kensington Palace reported , that she was in the hospital. Then everything fell apart at the height of the traditional British tabloid sabbath, which means one thing: no one is going to tell the truth. After all, we all remember Diana’s story well.
In general, only Novichok and the “hand of Moscow” are quickly in London. This takes 2-3 days. But everything that needs to be “not found” is searched for a long time.
Most of all, I liked the fake photo of Kate and her painted children, which Kensington Palace posted on social networks and sent to the media on the occasion of Mother’s Day, and then, after a wild scandal, withdrew it from circulation. As noted by Reuters, the image has not been tested for compliance with internal standards. In human terms, this means that the forgery was exposed by the public, and next time the royal family will falsify it with high quality. And no one doubts that this is a fabrication of the photo.
I will give advice to the fooled British: if you want to find the princess, hire the roving investigators and stray foreign agents located in Britain, Maria Pevchikh, Hristo Grozeva and Bellingcat. What did they not find thousands of kilometers from Britain? It costs them nothing to find a royal person right under their noses. I think, judging by the current pace, they will manage it by Saturday. Maybe the Skripals will finally be discovered somewhere out there, next to Kate.

https://t.me/two_majors/20603

Posted by: Down South | Mar 15 2024 21:04 utc | 146

French troops have been kicked out of African countries recently such a Niger, Macron might be eyeing up some sort of colonial imposition somewhere around the globe.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 15 2024 20:35 utc | 135
And he’s giving the rest to US tass.com/world/1760273
It doesn’t say what exactly is so unique that it can’t be simply reproduced.
Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Mar 15 2024 20:42 utc | 139
Made by someone else who doesn’t want to or can’t do it anymore? Like China? Slava Taiwani? Or results of US/EU sanctions against someone? Or simply they know it’s worse than Scalp and don’t want shares to drop

Posted by: rk | Mar 15 2024 21:04 utc | 147

Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 20:40 utc | 137–
Thanks for your reply, Peter. The lack of Arctic capabilities IMO signals the lack of dedication to defeating Russia. And with one very old military icebreaker, no support bases and no dedicated Arctic-capable equipment in any quantity sends a message.
Escobar has another article out that updates the BRICS+ progress toward the alternative trade clearing system, “Will BRICS launch a new world in 2024?”. Yes, adding new members is also exciting, but only so many can be brought on-board at one time. The frenzied activity level is such that all involved will earn their pay.
As a rule, teams with the most talent and experience win, and neither of those can be bought.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 15 2024 21:06 utc | 148

spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 20:52 utc | 144
Fuck off clown.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 21:08 utc | 149

French troops are good for two things, only:
1.Fucking whores
2.Surrendering

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 15 2024 21:09 utc | 150

US Green Berets are training Taiwanese troops 6 miles off the Chinese coast.
Any similarities with Ukraine?

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 15 2024 21:20 utc | 151

karlof1 | Mar 15 2024 21:06 utc | 148
BRICS plus all the multi-polar institutions have, since the beginning of the SMO have been building, slowly but surely. Like a builder laying one brick on top of another.
The foundations for those institutions were all laid early and seemed dormant for a time but obviously much foresight there.
Early on you thought Russia had left some of its reserves as bait and I did not agree with that for a time. It is the west taking that bait that is the main driver of RoW towards BRICS and the other institutions.
Putin is very good at setting well camouflaged traps.
A better international trade mechanism is still required. It seems Hindutva India put an end to creation of a new trade currency but you mentioned in a comment a day or two back that Russia has created a digital currency which Russia, China and Iran are using for trade. Will be interesting to see where that leads.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 21:22 utc | 152

@Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 18:42 utc | 101
The Chinese bureaucratic Party-state is a very tough meritocracy, firstly very hard to get into the Party and then very difficult to rise. Individuals are given very tough targets (e.g. “double the per capita income and fix these social ills in this location in a given timeframe”) and each time they succeed they are given a bigger part of China to manage. Then, once a number of these challenges have been met the individual may be rotated around other positions (e.g. in more ideological and national planning positions). All the time the individual is also judged for how they get on with others, how much they truly reflect the ideology of the party, and how good a leader of people they are. That’s why Chinese leaders tend to be old, they have spent many decades rising from one challenge to another.
During the early 1980s, the first years of Deng’s reforms the Party discipline tended to fall apart and some of the Party leadership lost their way and pushed for Social Democracy (i.e. rule by oligarch). One of them was Hu Yaobang who was forced out in the crisis of 1987 (when the Party rejected the neoliberals who wanted Russia-style shock-therapy, and instaed implemented a needed period of economic consolidation), another was Zhao Ziyang who George Soros got to. Ziyang was forced into house arrest after the 1989 events.
The economy was opened up again in the 1990s but a tight rein was kept on the political side. With the WTO membership in 2001 and the resulting incredibly high economic growth of the 2000’s (10% to 15% a year) the Party lost control somewhat and corruption was rife. Political and economic consolidation was needed, and that is why Xi was brought in. He himself has stated in speeches that at the time he felt like the Party had forgotten about its Marxist beliefs. Since he came to power in 2012, both the Party and the rich capitalists have been severely disciplined with many wannabe oligarchs brought down to Earth. There may be rich princelings etc., but the Party has been very significantly returned to its place of sitting above society and it certainly has not been captured by any independent capitalist class.
It is a social market economy ruled by the Party-state, the US capitalist class detest it as it both threatens their freedom of action in exploiting society and stops them from subjugating China. In the 2010s there were quite a few oligarch wannabes who were aligned with US capital and attempting to buy at least part of the Party through secret shares in new IPOs etc. Xi dealt with them, for example Mr. Ma.

Posted by: Roger | Mar 15 2024 21:29 utc | 153

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 18:51 utc | 103
Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 18:30 utc | 94
Thanks for that.
That what you posted also opens another question on Ukraine. Why so many Jews? One quarter of all jews killed in the Nazi genocide of WWII were in Ukraine.
I believe the Russian Empire had some law that restricted Jews to the Pale which seems to be the area of current Ukraine and perhaps up into Belorus.

No doubt there are basic accounts of where The Pale was etc. but for sure Ukraine has always been a post-Khazarian zone, indeed it was they whom the Rus pushed out of Kiev during their Viking days.
I presume – from the Greek element – that it has for long been a breadbasket (possibly going back to Roman or earlier times?).
I don’t have a pet theory brewing or anything but I don’t regard it as mere happenstance that both Ukraine and Israel are places with a very high quotient of Jewish interest, history and populations. And in terms of the earlier mention on this thread to which I was responding, it just so happens that apparently Odessa is the town in which they had the most influence in all of Russia. This is rarely pointed out so I took the liberty of doing so.
I doubt they want to be confined to one single country, but I for one hope they can establish their own country one day and get out of everybody else’s. If nothing else, it would be interesting to see what our nations might become without their alien, creative and somewhat hostile element within. In Europe we simply have no idea what that might be like after so many centuries together. The whole business is very disturbing and I wish it would just go away. But of course it doesn’t, and seemingly never will.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 21:30 utc | 154

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 21:08 utc | 149

spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 20:52 utc | 144
Fuck off clown.

I’ll avoid further confrontations with You.
Come to Montana – then we’ll check that.

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 21:32 utc | 155

Posted by: Roger | Mar 15 2024 21:29 utc | 153
Thank you, Roger. As far as you know, are all these wealthy Princelings inside or outside the CCP and how is their wealth held and then transmitted from generation to generation, or all they all self-made each time?
It sounds to me like there is an upper class that is somewhat connected to the Party which also has a meritocracy tradition within it but perhaps also has its own networks for advancement and influence. In other words: some pigs might be more equal than others. It is so in nearly every human society known to man so it would be highly unlikely that there is nothing like that in the mix in China, especially given it’s the size of twenty or more typical nation states.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 21:35 utc | 156

Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 21:30 utc | 154
I saw something on the Greek cities on the black sea in a doco not long back. They seem to go back a couple of thousand years to when Greece was still a major power. Both Odessa and Mariupol were two of those.
The labyrinth under Odessa though large parts now explored and mapped, the majority it seems not yet explored. That speaks of many centuries of digging with the tools of the day – to what purpose. It seems nobody knows for sure who even dug them.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 21:39 utc | 157

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 21:08 utc | 149
spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 20:52 utc | 144
Fuck off clown.
I’ll avoid further verbal confrontations with You here.
“Fuck Off”- That You’ll better do on Your own body self-made this night – or with Your girl.
If You don’t accept any small critics issues to some “facts here to UKR” against your person’s mentality.
Best wishes – Dear KING of opininions – for more understanding Your own world and Your comrades in Montana.
Keep smart as before – no provocation – tanks a while !

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 21:43 utc | 158

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 15 2024 19:15 utc | 110
z really wants to surrender but the banderites would cut his throat if he tried. so the next best thing for him is to throw away the military. it was going too slow so he had to think of more creative ways to lose men and material.

Posted by: frkorz | Mar 15 2024 21:49 utc | 159

Macron: “If Russia wins this war, Europe’s credibility would be reduced to zero.”
That’s a funny statement which indicates 3 things:
1, that losing Europe’s credibility is a very bad thing, which he fears. Lol. Well, he’d better get ready for it. Truth be told, it’s been steadily happening for 2 years … if you’ve had your eyes open.
2, that Europe’s credibility is so fragile that it can be reduced to zero by ANYTHING. In other words, its credibility is nothing but smoke and mirrors … which we already knew, and which Macron has just unintentionally confirmed. Lol.
3, that Europe’s credibility hinges on the results of a war between (ostensibly) solely country A and country B, which we already know is a coalition of Europe + US vs Russia. Therefore Macron overtly insinuates that Europe is an equal and integrated part of a war against Russia.
In all, it’s a classic statement of head-in-the-sand cognitive denialism. And, funniest of all, it mirror implicates the truism “If Russia wins this war, America’s credibility would be reduced to zero.” Bring it on.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 15 2024 21:50 utc | 160

spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 21:43 utc | 158
In the early days in nother Australia when the was a lot stockmen, shearers and bullock wagon but very few women, they had to make their own entertainment.
One of these was called a bull ring or bullocky ring. The idea was to sit in a cercle and whoever could wank off the fastest was the winner.
You, shadow, and assorted trolls should try it sometime (though not here) as a group therapy session.
You have been here long enough to know the sort of response you would get with that crap you addressed to me.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 21:52 utc | 161

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 21:08 utc | 149
spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 20:52 utc | 144
Fuck off clown.
I’ll avoid further verbal confrontations with You here.
“Fuck Off”- That You’ll better do on Your own body self-made this night – or with Your girl.
If You don’t accept any small critics issues to some “facts here to UKR” against your person’s mentality.
Best wishes – Dear KING of opininions – for more understanding Your own world and Your comrades in Montana.
Keep smart as before – no provocation – tanks a while !
Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 21:43 utc | 158
Good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gVbh07FSds

Posted by: Lala | Mar 15 2024 21:55 utc | 162

spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 21:43 utc | 158
“Fuck Off”- That You’ll better do on Your own body self-made this night”
????WTF?
Is this how you “translate” -why don’t you beat-off later tonight.
Holy mother of pearl, get your shit together or get your shit outta here!

Posted by: bisfugged | Mar 15 2024 22:00 utc | 163

Did that grand ma lover talked indeed about what the Bulgarians could think if Russia repairs the mistakes of the CCCP fall apart? The Bulgarian ruling class, often on western payroll, should not be mistaken with the people and their opinion. Given the US boots on Bulgarian soil, Russia is in fact the only hope.

Posted by: morkoff | Mar 15 2024 22:00 utc | 164

Macron wants to fight Russia to maintain Europeon credibility. That’s so stupid it could have been said by an American politician. Any war for “credibility” is a war that should be immediately abandoned. Or better yet, never allowed to start in the first place.

Posted by: Sentient | Mar 15 2024 22:02 utc | 165

How you translate a real move:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NKVXSXZf8E
A real move

Posted by: Lala | Mar 15 2024 22:04 utc | 166

France lost its credibility with its refusal to enforce the Minsk Accords, for sure.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Mar 15 2024 17:11 utc | 62
A very good point! Maria or Sergei will no doubt point that out soon enough in their inimitable way.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 15 2024 22:05 utc | 167

Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 21:22 utc | 152–
Thanks for your reply, Peter. I know this is off the thread’s topic, but it’s about the CIA, so in a way it qualifies, “The more thoroughly exposed the CIA’s true face, the better: Global Times editorial”. It’s opening paragraph sets up the question begged in the second:

Reuters exclusively reported on Thursday that, according to a former US official with direct knowledge of highly confidential operations, then-US president Donald Trump authorized the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to launch secret operations on Chinese social media aimed at “turning public opinion in China against its government.” Many people don’t find this information surprising or even consider it “news.” The US is a habitual offender, using various covert means to foment “peaceful evolution” and “color revolutions” in other countries, with the CIA being the main force employed to this end. For other countries, the US’ pervasive influence is everywhere, visible and tangible, so there is no need for exposés.
We are still unclear what the specific purpose of the “former US official” was in leaking the information to Reuters. A CIA spokesperson declined to comment on the existence of the program, its goals or impact. A spokesperson for the Biden administration’s National Security Council also declined to comment, which means it was neither confirmed nor denied. The US intelligence community often uses a mixture of false and true information to create confusion, a tactic that was used on Edward Snowden. The Reuters report is valuable but needs to be further processed to filter out the true and useful parts.

The tact used in the editorial is different as noted by its concluding sentences:
“For China and the world, the more fully, clearly, and thoroughly the CIA exposes itself, the deeper people will understand its true nature, and the stronger their ability to discern the truth will become. Keeping the CIA busy to no end or failing in their attempts is the best preventive effect.”
IMO, China wants us to remember that the CIA was formed by fascists and staffed by Nazis and hasn’t changed from its beginnings.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 15 2024 22:09 utc | 168

Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 21:30 utc | 154
The Khazarian history you speak of was the migration of European jews leaving the Pale of Settlement which was Crimea up to the Baltics of today in a narrow band that encompassed the Donbass, Kiev, Kharkov and parts of Belarus. These “people” were expelled into western Europe while taking on a new religion that enabled ((them)) to blend in better with the local city folks. It didn’t take long for ((them)) to literally take over everything with violence, blackmail, extortion and inter-marriages.
Today these types own just about everything. An interesting article I read a few years ago made fun of the lists for Richest Men in the world, the likes of Musk, Bezos, Zuckerburg and Gates with their hundreds of billions couldn’t hold water to the trillionaires controlling our very lives these days.

Posted by: bisfugged | Mar 15 2024 22:11 utc | 169

Is Macron the neocons’ rescue pawn, following Nuland’s “dismissal”?
Be that as it may, his interview began with a surreal moment, during which we could perceive the incomprehension and unease of the two journalists (yet on his payroll). If you know any French, this first minute is a must-see. To the journalist’s very precise question as to whether or not she had understood correctly (we’re going to send in troops), Macron replied as follows: “Good evening and welcome, you’re sitting in front of me, are you standing? No…Are you ruling out getting up at the end of this interview?”
https://youtu.be/gIJVHT7Ueeo?si=XeuGHU3Ebi7aiYEe
In France, only the president can launch nuclear fire, measures have been taken to ensure that he alone can do so at any time.

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Mar 15 2024 22:13 utc | 170

Really, A guy with 6 3, and 200 in the guts: you die: he is a a lover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NKVXSXZf8E
He catch you and, of course, he loves you always because he consider there’s no difference between you and me: spirits

Posted by: Lala | Mar 15 2024 22:13 utc | 171

spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 21:43 utc | 158
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 21:52 utc | 161

In the early days in nother Australia when the was a lot stockmen, shearers and bullock wagon but very few women, they had to make their own entertainment.
One of these was called a bull ring or bullocky ring. The idea was to sit in a cercle and whoever could wank off the fastest was the winner.
You, shadow, and assorted trolls should try it sometime (though not here) as a group therapy session.
You have been here long enough to know the sort of response you would get with that crap you addressed to me.

So I’ve to apologize hereto for my post, or what is it else like?
If helps you for understanding my last post here – Mr. Unknown Peter.xxx – SIR ! :
Sir, I only try to publish my opinion here on this forum -‘I won’t kill You for Your Meaning – You either can’t in reverse.
That’s for true, surely.
Why do You call me a “Clown” (ref. Your latest posts) ?
Even though, a “Clown” makes jokes .. Have You lost the ability to make or hear jokes?
If so, ‘I can understand. My friends in Donetzk may also not being able to hear “JOKES” of their still ongoing bombardements on their Donetzk City ..
Note: That fight isn’t yet won !
Best wishes – to Your Mind.

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 22:16 utc | 172

Scorpion (94):
The 1970s also saw a large influx of Ukrainian Jews to Brooklyn. Brighton Beach became Little Odessa. The large criminal element among them then went to war with the Italian Mafia, flying in former Spetsnaz men for hits on Mafia and their families, breaking the previous unwritten rule to target soldiers only.

Posted by: Ciaran | Mar 15 2024 22:19 utc | 173

karlof1 | Mar 15 2024 22:09 utc | 168
From the likes of Macgregor and Johnson, professionals cannot rise past a certain point in US military and intel services – colonel in the military and senior analyst in the CIA. Above that position one needs to be a political hack that will support the narrative. Empire in the last stage of decadence.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 22:20 utc | 174

addition to my 174
That Reuters report on the CIA China thing is interesting though. The question is why.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 22:23 utc | 175

In France, only the president can launch nuclear fire, measures have been taken to ensure that he alone can do so at any time.
Posted by: Tak-Tik | Mar 15 2024 22:13 utc | 170
That is, I suspect,the reason for Putin’s most recent warning.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 22:30 utc | 176

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 15 2024 22:09 utc | 168

.. IMO, China wants us to remember that the CIA was formed by fascists and staffed by Nazis and hasn’t changed from its beginnings. ..

May be they (China) want to remind us for that fact.
But China is very silent today to create any new “solutions”.
China is going to hide on these current UKR-MIL-Defeating processes. If UKR is repelled on ground as it looks like noadays, China avoids any comments about that fact.
China is an un-calculting big factor in the world’s ongoing history.
If Biden/Nuland-Guys will escalate military measures (joined S-Korea,Japan) China has no built-in break and will do counter-strike the same provocation asap. – not only by MSM means.
Best is:
Go to your roots – and learn – Miss Nuland/B-Bocks/Strack-Z/v.d.Liars etc. : ALL Those > Flee to hell .. !

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 22:45 utc | 177

Posted by: bisfugged | Mar 15 2024 22:11 utc | 169
Today these types own just about everything. An interesting article I read a few years ago made fun of the lists for Richest Men in the world, the likes of Musk, Bezos, Zuckerburg and Gates with their hundreds of billions couldn’t hold water to the trillionaires controlling our very lives these days.
Posted by: Ciaran | Mar 15 2024 22:19 utc | 173
The 1970s also saw a large influx of Ukrainian Jews to Brooklyn. Brighton Beach became Little Odessa. The large criminal element among them then went to war with the Italian Mafia, flying in former Spetsnaz men for hits on Mafia and their families, breaking the previous unwritten rule to target soldiers only.

They sure do get around!
Thought: Micron is well known Rothschild man. Given Odessa’s history, perhaps he has been tasked with holding Odessa for the Tribe because once BRI comes to the West – which it surely will – Odessa will be the main maritime conduit, possibly via a new major canal and port through Gaza, into the heart of Europe and thus a major middle man crossroads-portal between East and West, something the Jews naturally excel in overseeing.
Which brings up related Uber-Issue: some say that Putin is finally putting his foot down and will not kowtow to them any more. (Of course, many others disagree.) But if he is serious about Nyetting the West, he is going to have to Nyet the Tribe since they run the West, no?
Unless what if the Tribe has done a deal: they render the West impotent and in return will get full control of Israel including the Gaza gas fields, and maybe also a second nation around Odessa to Lviv (which will soon be Polish) as well, along with a Senior Seat at the Multipolar Round Table. A veritable twenty first century Balfour move. Just my imagination, but it fits with much now ongoing, like Putin’s go slow strategy so frustrating Russian loyalists, also his obvious reluctance to take a stand viz Israel.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 22:53 utc | 178

In all breathless reporting by msm.
No reference to the European citizens and their view’s and opinions.
Not a mention!
Anyone care to comment?
Posted by: jpc | Mar 15 2024 18:48 utc | 102
There are no European citizens because EU is not sovereign. That the nation states of Europe are subservient to EU means that people in Europe do not have nations either. The hypothetical ability of return to sovereign nation state is a form of entertainment similar to watching bread sink.
So no reference to them all as they are all trying to not be anything in particular, that being too sad a reality to report on.

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 15 2024 22:56 utc | 179

Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 22:53 utc | 178
At times there is a lot of belief that no one is smarter than the tribe – cannot out maneuver them.
As to the connections, Macron Odessa – interesting. Though Microns sights on Odessa may be in relation to Transnistria. There seemed to be something brewing around that region not long back so Microns utterances could be in relation to that project.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 23:04 utc | 180

“Thought: Micron is well known Rothschild man. Given Odessa’s history, perhaps he has been tasked with holding Odessa for the Tribe because once BRI comes to the West – which it surely will – Odessa will be the main maritime conduit, possibly via a new major canal and port through Gaza, into the heart of Europe and thus a major middle man crossroads-portal between East and West, something the Jews naturally excel in overseeing.”
Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 22:53 utc | 178
Flawless analysis, thanks!

Posted by: canuck | Mar 15 2024 23:06 utc | 181

This is a news item to illustrate how I interpret the Russian MoD’s Ukrainian casualty numbers.
“Ukraine Loses Over 2,700 Soldiers Around Avdeyevka in Past Week – MoD” (sputnik)
IMHO, the Russians think Ukraine lost 3000 soldiers. But the number they give to the press is 10% to the safe side. 3000 – 300 = 2700

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 15 2024 23:17 utc | 182

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 15 2024 22:53 utc | 178
The only way west gets to keep Odessa is if they do a deal with Russia which allows them to keep it.
Ukraine wasted another 2000 lives (after day 6) in its stunt to disrupt Russian elections in Belgorod and Kursk. These reserves are sorely missed around Novomikhalovka, Chasov Yar, Rabotyne and Berdychi. Budanov already said the media campaign in Belgorod failed. They are also losing more ground in Donbass.
The Russians will eventually get Odessa, if not this year, sometime next 3 years.
They will have enough missiles and artillery to destroy any French force that pops up anywhere close to the front, or in Odessa if and when the time is to go there, and other more imminent objectives are complete.
The only way the west gets Odessa if they make a deal with Russia which allows them to keep it. They will not.
Ukraine might get to keep Odessa if the next government is free of Nato nazis and society is cleaned up from them. Which is the only true way to create a neutral Ukraine.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 15 2024 23:18 utc | 183

As the old joke goes, “I bought a used French rifle and it had never been fired and was only dropped once.”

Posted by: circumspect | Mar 15 2024 23:18 utc | 184

Europe in shock as Trump reappears
The Weimar Triangle Summit in Berlin
Europe Must Defend Itself
https://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/europe-must-defend-itself
Dutch News readers: “We are in a state of war.”
Poland president calls for NATO states to increase military spending by 50%
All is going as expected on the Eastern Front … NOT 😡

Posted by: Oui | Mar 15 2024 23:22 utc | 185

If you know anyone who denies that the Biden team provoked the war in Ukraine and blocked all attempts at peace, have them watch this short video: “Biden Blocks Peace” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ObzI6G9ZA

Posted by: Carlton Meyer | Mar 15 2024 23:28 utc | 186

Passerby | Mar 15 2024 23:17 utc | 182
Medics on both sides say the majority – 90% + – of casualties are due to artillery not bullet wounds. There is the barreled artillery on the frontlines plus the behind the line strikes with rocket artillery, and now also glide bombs.
Just the barreled artillery gives anywhere between 3 and 10 to one in Russia’s favour. Rocket artillery – Russia’s ability to strike anywhere in Ukraine rear – greatly increases that ratio. On top of that we now have Russia using precision glide bombs on the frontlines and near back areas.
Even western media now reporting Ukraine villages devoid of men. Several months ago Russia first reported finding female bodies in Ukraine frontline trenches.
Russian casualties are high for western Vietnam syndrome, but casualty ratios are extremely in Russia’s favor which is quite a feat of military professionalism in this type of warfare.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 23:30 utc | 187

spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 20:52 utc | 144
Fuck off clown.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 21:08 utc | 149
_____
Seconded. (And what’s with this Montana business?)
Stay healthy, Peter AU1. You’re one of the best members of this community.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 15 2024 23:31 utc | 188

The Summit in Berlin
Posted by: Oui | Mar 15 2024 23:22 utc | 185
That Weimar Triangle is I think emerging as something to keep an eye on. They along with the Baltics will be the spring or summer offensiveness the coke snorter chief talks about and why they keep sending cannon fodder to certain death.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 23:39 utc | 189

Southfront on how Tornado-S and Iskanders have wreaked mayhem on Nato air defense systems SAMP-T, IRIS-T, Nasams and Patriots, and Nato artillery during the last month.
Now the latest report we heard is Greece is sending Ukraine some US army 1942 gun models with a 15 km range.
https://southfront.press/russia-continues-win-streak-against-top-nato-gear-obliterates-attackers-in-belgorod-oblast/

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 15 2024 23:40 utc | 190

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 15 2024 23:18 utc | 183

.. The Russians will eventually get Odessa, if not this year, sometime next 3 years.
They will have enough missiles and artillery to destroy any French force that pops up anywhere close to the front, or in Odessa if and when the time is to go there, and other more imminent objectives are complete. ..

So, “if and when the time is to go there” , that means what having strategic results within next x-years?
No, there won’t be any “strategical goals” gained by the RF guys.
Instead, Mr.P would have won the election meanwhile, but RF won’t have a big “victory on UKR war fields”.
So, all is going forward now – once more starting again by ZERO-State of the SMO – best luck !
That’s all we already have enough about the SMO til today – 2024-MAR-15.
Even Dima’s videos cannot help us reporting more than about “3 sqm Grond wins a day” on the front lines.
People die on either side – more dead UKR “Soldiers” as before any time – An actuel Meat-Grinder.
Why srill that? Okay, we know the President of UKR and its 1st. War Officer.
Why don’t kill em both immediately – who will come next to replace them – Miss Nuland, Mr Stoltenberg or …?

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 23:55 utc | 191

“There can be no lasting peace if there is no sovereignty,” says Macron.
That’s exactly what the EU and the Euro did to everybody who joined. Every country lost their sovereignty and their ability to issue their own coins.
Here we are..
Countries need to leave that shit hole and get their sovereignty back – Period.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 16 2024 0:06 utc | 192

Read it somewhere, possibly on Kadyrov Telegram channel, but not 100% sure.

Posted by: Naive | Mar 16 2024 0:10 utc | 193

Reply to Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 15 2024 20:22 utc | 132

Posted by: Naive | Mar 16 2024 0:11 utc | 194

Emmanuel Micron,
can anyone explain to me this possible MOA insider joke? Can’t be a typo on any keyboard I am familiar with.

Posted by: Emanuelle Micron | Mar 16 2024 0:12 utc | 195

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 20:52 utc | 144
Who are you?

Posted by: Naive | Mar 16 2024 0:13 utc | 196

Emmanuel Micron,
can anyone explain to me this possible MOA insider joke? Can’t be a typo on any keyboard I am familiar with.
Posted by: Emanuelle Micron | Mar 16 2024 0:12 utc | 195
It is so obvious that no explanation is required.

Posted by: Naive | Mar 16 2024 0:15 utc | 197

By the way, Macro is another possibility…

Posted by: Naive | Mar 16 2024 0:16 utc | 198

Posted by: Naive | Mar 16 2024 0:13 utc | 196

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 15 2024 20:52 utc | 144
Who are you?

Seems you are a small Naive guy.
I’m a strong guy in mind of all those good people You may have forgotten.
Is that an answer to your latest question (ref. above), you unknown individual Mister X?
If so, tell me more about RF soldiers fighting on-grounds.
Thanks.

Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Mar 16 2024 0:23 utc | 199

It amazes me how the right were so against the EU.
No deficits above 3% of GDP.
No debts above 60% of GDP.
Banks and big business decide how both skills and real resources should be allocated.
All debts will be in a foreign currency – The Euro.
Privatisations on steroids – the free market tooth fairy and there always be some oligarch with the cheque book open to hire the unemployed – Not. That people can be moved around the economy like ignore of steel – Thatcher style.
It is a right wing money scarcity / mercantilism wet dream.
What is even more mind boggling is the left international love the EU. They have deluded themselves that the Brussels can be changed from within.
Brexit which I call the Brexiverse because the right acted like the true left, the left acted like the true right will be analysed for centuries.
My guess is it was always about tax cuts, tax cuts for the rich and big businesses that wasn’t allowed under – No deficits above 3% of GDP.
Truss budget proved it.
Also, To appease the far right who won’t tell anybody what century they want to take everybody back to, as soon as they get their hands on the state power they crave. Their 1O point plan to enforce on others what their definition of liberty is. Which won’t match 99.9% of what others think liberty means. That is a 100% certainty.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 16 2024 0:28 utc | 200