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March 5, 2024
Ukraine – Cookie Monster Retires

A big fat rat is leaving the ship.

One might interpret this as the State Department's admittance of defeat in the U.S. war against Russia in Ukraine:

On the Retirement of Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland – Anthony Blinken / State Department, Mar 5 2024

Victoria Nuland has let me know that she intends to step down in the coming weeks as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – a role in which she has personified President Biden’s commitment to put diplomacy back at the center of our foreign policy and revitalize America’s global leadership at a crucial time for our nation and the world.

[I]t’s Toria’s leadership on Ukraine that diplomats and students of foreign policy will study for years to come. Her efforts have been indispensable to confronting Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, marshaling a global coalition to ensure his strategic failure, and helping Ukraine work toward the day when it will be able to stand strongly on its own feet – democratically, economically, and militarily.

President Biden and I have asked our Under Secretary for Management John Bass to serve as Acting Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs until Toria’s replacement is confirmed.

Victoria Nuland, a member of the neo-conservative Kagan clan, is only 62 years old – too young to retire regularly.

She will be remembered for handing out cookies to anti-government demonstrators in Ukraine and for installing the 2014 coup regime.

That has been her main project in the State Department. But the 2014 Maidan putsch that turn the Ukraine into a battering ram against Russia, has ended in a complete failure.


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Neither was Russia 'weakened' by the war nor has Ukraine any perspective to survive but as some Russian controlled land-locked backwater country in Europe's east.

Given that billions were spent on Ukraine with little controls and nothing to show for Nuland, and her family, have certainly made a bit on the side. One wonders if any of the ongoing and coming investigations into the black hole Ukraine will leave them unscarred.

As even Guardian commentators are now waking up to the mess they helped create it is high time for European politicians to also finally accept this reality:

Western Europe has no conceivable interest in escalating the Ukraine war through a long-range missile exchange. While it should sustain its logistical support for Ukrainian forces, it has no strategic interest in Kyiv’s desire to drive Russia out of the majority Russian-speaking areas of Crimea or Donbas. It has every interest in assiduously seeking an early settlement and starting the rebuilding of Ukraine.

As for the west’s “soft power” sanctions on Russia, they have failed miserably, disrupting the global trading economy in the process. Sanctions may be beloved of western diplomats and thinktanks. They may even hurt someone – not least Britain’s energy users – but they have not devastated the Russian economy or changed Putin’s mind. This year Russia’s growth rate is expected to exceed Britain’s.

The crass ineptitude of a quarter of a century of western military interventions should have taught us some lessons. Apparently not.

Comments

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Mar 6 2024 13:14 utc | 398
Nice summary of a rather complicated history of Western Ukraine.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 6 2024 13:26 utc | 401

From a US point of view, Nuland has done a brilliant job and completely sundered Russia from the rest of Europe. She should retire loaded with honours and awards.
From a European perspective she’s been an utter disaster.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 6 2024 13:44 utc | 402

Not many know about the Polish/Ukrainian War 1918-1919. Poland would love to get “its” city back Lviv. Those 2 countries are not trustful to each. Galacia was under the Austria/Hungary empire and was heavily influenced by the Germans. The Ruthenians (Latin for east slavs) in that area became radicalizes by “German ideology” during that time” and out of that Ukraine was “born.” Ukraine for ages was a name for a land area, not a people up until the 1900’s.
Russians know how to dangle a carrot as they know history.
Posted by: heavymetal101 | Mar 6 2024 13:14 utc | 398

It’s an early example of the classic Russian failure at exercising soft power.
Instead of cultivating pro-Russian sentiments in Galicia, they allowed the anti-Russian agenda cultivated by the Austrians to spill over the border east of it (we’re talking the 19th century).
For some reason many of the Rusyns in the Carpathians remained much more pro-Russian than the Ruthenians in the lowlands, probably because no intellectuals wanted to move there so it remained a largely isolated rural highland area.
P.S. This is the dirty secret behind European nationalism in the last couple centuries. Much of it was driven by intellectuals whose deep wish and real motivation wasn’t so much to overthrow the oppressive empires that their people lived under and to liberate them, but to gain their own fiefdoms to rule over.
In many cases — Poles, Czechs, Hungarians, Croatians, Serbs, Bulgarians, etc. — there had been a real medieval country associated with the ethnicity that was to be liberated, which itself was real too, with a distinct language, etc.
But what do you do if you are a mediocre intellectual who has big dreams of future glory and there is no such medieval country and real ethnic identity to revive? Well, you make up one, and if there is a powerful foreign power to invest in that project, it might actually get off the ground.
That is the story of Ukraine, and several others.
And it is the same fundamental dynamics at play to this day.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 6 2024 13:45 utc | 403

It’s classic for Americans to have a complete failure of understanding how the EU works, as illustrated here.
Posted by: laguerre | Mar 6 2024 11:03 utc | 378
“They invented EU, I bet they know how it “works”. To take control over the part nato didn’t have control they created the United States of Europe. since no EU country can function anymore, if EU money stops flowing they will instantly collapse, and that’s how Hungary or any one else “votes” what Ursula and Borel orders.”
Posted by: rk | Mar 6 2024 13:14 utc | 397
I agree with you rk.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 6 2024 13:46 utc | 404

This is why Vicky is on vacation, her job is was successful. Madam complainer just said US nukes in Finland are basically acceptable ( tass.com/politics/1756375 ) and Peskov told Transnistria to kiss nato’s ass and go to UN to ask for help ( tass.com/politics/1756411 )

Posted by: rk | Mar 6 2024 13:49 utc | 405

when b says “even the Guardian is waking up”, he’s quoting Simon Jenkins, an old school realist. But if you look at the comments by the much younger and well educated (i.e. indoctrinated) commenters, Jenkins is an appeaser, Chamberlain in 1938, and they are all Churchill.
Jenkins is very much an outlier. More mainstream are spook types like Luke Harding or (((usual suspects))) like Raphael Behr or Jonathan Freedland. I bet Nick Cohen is regretting his forced retirement.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 6 2024 13:50 utc | 406

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 6 2024 2:01 utc | 300
Obama having breakfast with Lavrov and Putin, circa 2012
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/07/08/world/08prexy.span.600.jpg

Posted by: jpb | Mar 6 2024 13:51 utc | 407

“Enjoy your dinner.”
Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 6 2024 13:01 utc | 395
Thanks, I certainly will-the wife only drinks white wine and my 26 year old son would gladly drink some but he wouldn’t appreciate it, it would be a waste.
I don’t really have a wine cellar but I did buy 5 bottles of this wine 15 years ago or so when they weren’t as pricey.
I opened one up when Hillary lost the election in 2016-another when my grandson was born last year -so after tonight there will be only 2 left.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 6 2024 13:55 utc | 408

Also State Department said ‘Ukraine has surprises’ – some people speculate US has enabled Ukraine to create nuclear weapons. Like handing a monkey a hand grenade, if true.
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 6 2024 6:31 utc | 338

Ukraine is certainly capable of it, but in peacetime. Now it’s war and presumably the Russians would quickly destroy such attempts before they can advance.
The bigger danger is that nothing prevents the US from sending nukes to Ukraine.
And that it is far from certain that Ukraine actually returned all warheads to Russia back in the days. Any fusion ones presumably no longer work because they have decayed without maintenance from the mainland. But fission warheads are more than sufficient to destroy cities.
I like the way Russian behavior is described in some Russian sources recently — “herbivorous”. Very accurate, though it does not translate well into English — the original Russian word literally means “eats grass”, which carries much stronger connotations of passivity as it invokes the image of a cow slowly chewing grass completely oblivious to what is about to happen to it.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 6 2024 13:56 utc | 409

History Legends latest explaining the ukrop natzios ‘MILF’ defence lines west of Avdeevka.
https://youtu.be/bjiTK01D3jg?feature=shared
Yup. There were plenty of yanks and Canadians there. Bradley’s/Abrams handing out and taking destruction. Many RF casualties in open field advances over the last 2 weeks.
Looks grim. Milf got banged up bad , as is always likely to happen to such thrill seekers.
Doubt if it’s anything to do with Cookies Nudelmann ….but someone sent the natzios there, how are they going to explain their deaths and capture to the home audience?
When they aren’t supposed to be there as regular forces! Only as mercenaries.
Also seems there are yanks fighting on the RF side!!! A US civil war in Ukraine , soon to spread back home?
Well who is going to take the blame for this shit show in DC now?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 6 2024 14:04 utc | 410

Water is a huge issue, I agree. However, pipelines and canals from places like Russia can solve some of the problems.
The Ceyan Peace Canal is another major initiative which can be implemented if/when there is peace in The Holy Land. This idea sends billions of gallons of water – currently going to waste in Tukey – from Turkey to Syria/Lebanon/Israel/Palestine/jordan/Sinai. A gamechanging reason to support a resolution to the I/P conflict.
There are many other schemes around the globe. Lots of countries have too much water.

Posted by: Glasshopper | Mar 6 2024 14:07 utc | 411

@ DunGroanin | Mar 6 2024 14:04 utc | 410
It ought to be impossible to mention Cookies and MILF in the same context, especially if that MILF is getting “banged up bad.”

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 6 2024 14:08 utc | 412

https://tass.com/world/1756187

CHISINAU, March 6. /TASS/. The Moldovan government will send a draft resolution on the suspension of the Conventional Armed Forces in Europe Treaty (CFE Treaty) to parliament for approval.
The decision was approved at the Cabinet’s meeting, streamed by the government press service on Facebook (banned in Russia; owned by Meta Corporation, which is recognized as extremist in Russia).
“Given the significant change in circumstances since the signing of the treaty, it will be suspended with chances of resuming its implementation,” Valeriu Mija, the state secretary of Moldova’s Defense Ministry, has said.
The CFE Treaty was signed in 1990 and adapted in 1997. The NATO countries have not ratified the adapted version of the document, continuing to adhere to the 1990 provisions, which sets caps on conventional weapons based on the balance of force that had existed between the alliance and the long-disbanded Warsaw Treaty Organization.
Russian President Vladimir Putin on May 29, 2023 signed a law denouncing the CFE Treaty. This legal act entered into force on June 9. Moscow has repeatedly stated that the blame for the termination of the agreement will be placed squarely on the United States and its allies, which opted for the path of confrontation.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 6 2024 14:17 utc | 413

Phil Giraldi was right.
https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hating-russia-is-a-full-time-job/

Posted by: Jim C. | Mar 6 2024 14:20 utc | 414

Final warning perhaps?
https://t.me/yurasumy/13683

Iskander strike on Odessa…
A very interesting strike (in detail). Moreover, the Ukrainian information dumps somehow became tense due to the fact that the strike itself was carried out by Iskander. Which speaks to its special importance and efficiency, which was needed here.
Also adding fuel to the fire was the fact that literally a few tens of minutes before, Zelensky was rewarding Ukrainian SSO officers there in the port.
Moreover, it was known for certain that Zek had already managed to leave by that time, … but the SSO officers did not…
Why it doesn’t make sense for us to kill Zek, I think there is no need to tell in detail once again. I’ll just say that of all the “semi-poker-leaders of Ukraine” for us today… he is the most convenient (he is the fastest to bring the Ukraine not Russia project to the grave, which is going to the bottom right now).
That’s why there is no interest in helping our “Western partners” get rid of this suitcase without a handle. This is their problem, their “suitcase without a handle”, let them fiddle with it.
But to knock out the MTR elite, who operate their BECs in our Black Sea Fleet, is, of course, a priority task.
The results of the strike are still unknown. But they are expected on both front lines. We are with hope, the enemy with fear…

https://t.me/treugolniklpr/22999

⚡️Russia launched a missile attack on the motorcade of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky in Odessa, the Greek newspaper Prototema reports.
The newspaper refers to anonymous sources in the Greek government. It is alleged that the strike was carried out while Zelensky’s motorcade was with the Greek delegation. The publication says that no one in the Greek delegation was injured.

https://t.me/treugolniklpr/23000

❗️As Greek media write, the explosion occurred shortly before the meeting between Greek Prime Minister Mitsotakis and Zelensky, 150 meters from the place where the Greek mission was located, in which, in addition to the Prime Minister, there were eight people and their security, the media write.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 6 2024 14:20 utc | 415

“Water is a huge issue, I agree. However, pipelines and canals from places like Russia can solve some of the problems.
The Ceyan Peace Canal is another major initiative which can be implemented if/when there is peace in The Holy Land. This idea sends billions of gallons of water – currently going to waste in Tukey – from Turkey to Syria/Lebanon/Israel/Palestine/jordan/Sinai. A gamechanging reason to support a resolution to the I/P conflict.
There are many other schemes around the globe. Lots of countries have too much water.”
Posted by: Glasshopper | Mar 6 2024 14:07 utc | 411
here’s lots of water-for example-Lake Baikal in Russia is the deepest (5,000 feet) the oldest (25 million years old and contains 20% of all earth’s freshwater)freshwater in the world. (1)Its contents could match 67 years of all world use.
Its hysterical to be worried about freshwater supply-yes it might be more expensive to pipeline water or desalinate it from sea water but it is not a big problem.
1. https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/754/#:~:text=Situated%20in%20south%2Deast%20Siberia,world's%20total%20unfrozen%20freshwater%20reserve.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 6 2024 14:27 utc | 416

@ Peter AU1, #322
“big pharma” and “big ag” are SUB GROUPS of “big chem”, more or less. Let me remind MoA barflies for the xth time that Monsanto doesn’t exist as a independent company or brand name anymore. Bayer bought it in 2016. Cargill is a “unique” creature in that it is a privately owned company and not a publicly “owned” (with shares) last I knew. It started in Minnesota and I suspect that if people dig a little, they will find monarch families involved.
https://www.globaldata.com/companies/top-companies-by-sector/agriculture-forestry/global-agricultural-products-companies-by-revenue/

Posted by: DakotaRog | Mar 6 2024 14:40 utc | 417

Ahenobarbus | Mar 5 2024 15:35 utc | 30

I think pig might be a better animal analogy. A big voracious, murderous pig runs away from the mass slaughter it intentionally caused for its own fun and profit. Oh, and for the glory of a genocidal empire and likely, in her sick mind, for her superior tribe.

Look ye soulless ginger bastard, pigs are lovely, fierce & intelligent animals ! And often quite affectionate. And tasty, too !
Also, why is Ron afraid of Death-Eaters biscotte he’s a ginge too ?!

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 6 2024 15:03 utc | 418

here some fine german politician twitter .
modern nazi. nothing else to add. this little piece of human excrement called on attacks on moscow government buildings. keep in mind, russia is not at war with germany, yet our german government, contratry to the will of the people, and our basic law, is calling for terrorism against the government of another state.
once a nazi, always a nazi.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 6 2024 15:09 utc | 419

Canuck
My post was directed at an earlier post by shadowbanned, which i forgot to headline my comment with.
Yes Baikal will keep the Chinese drinking for many decades to come. Whether pipelines are enough for agriculture is another story. I guess you could service a growing area, but you wouldn’t be able to turn the hills green.
But shadowbanned’s main point is a good one: Russia is likely to be one of the winners of Climate change, and that, of course, is another reason for the jealousy and desire to break up Russia.

Posted by: Glasshopper | Mar 6 2024 15:11 utc | 420

DunGroanin@410…..fighting Yanks, likely all the Anglo speakers fight together on the Russian side….the MWM Battalion…..Mercs With Morals.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 6 2024 15:17 utc | 421

Why russian doesn’t destroy all those round the clock satellite sying and giving info to Ukraine from NATO?

Posted by: ekf | Mar 6 2024 15:22 utc | 422

Belle | Mar 5 2024 16:21 utc | 67

But I am not so sure that she is leaving due to overt failure. She may be leaving due to her covert success. The sanctions have isolated, not Russia, but the US, Canada, and Europe, Australia and Japan. And that may be what she and they intend to do. Cleave the world into two entities with US citizens frightened of the “other” poles. Then they can institute their green policies to transfer wealth from the middle and working classes to the energy companies which produce higher cost and unreliable energy, increasing the cost of all goods and services, penalize any “overuse” of energy through carbon credits, and put the population under severe controls on speech under hate speech laws and especially control all finances through Central Bank Digital Currencies. Having given billions to increasingly ineffective military industries, which will have the power and pocketbooks to fund future Congressmen, to fund future wars with increasingly expensive equipment that doesn’t work efficiently and a military subverted with DEI and LBGTQ ideology.
The ordinary people of the west seem to be unaware of the full import of all that is going on and in those instances where some are aware, are made to feel powerless.

Superb, and trenchant analysis !
Guy Thornton | Mar 5 2024 16:26 utc | 72

I read they were going to fit glide wings on the fat bitch and launch her at the Kerch bridge.

Loved that ! Oi larfed me arse orf !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 6 2024 15:36 utc | 423

Nuland is not going anywhere. She’s mainstream deep state. A mere shuffling of the deck. The cards stay the same. Can’t believe even a tiny drop of credence is given this “change.”

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Mar 6 2024 15:40 utc | 424

Ukrainian losses reported by the Russian military:
– Kupyansk: 165, 1 tank, 1 artillery
– Donetsk: 260, 2 tanks, 2 AFV, 14 motor vehicles, 3 artillery
– Avdeyevka: 460, 2 tanks (incl. 1 Abrams), 4 IFV, 2 AFV, 5 motor vehicles, 4 artillery (incl. 1 HIMARS), 1 Buk SAM system
– South Donetsk: 210, 2 tanks, 3 motor vehicles, 1 Strela SAM system
– Kherson: 30, 2 motor vehicles
Total: 1,125, 7 tanks (incl. 1 Abrams), 8 IFV/AFV, 24 motor vehicles, 8 artillery (incl. 1 HIMARS), 2 SAM systems
Notably the Abrams was destroyed by the first shot of a T72, seems the wunderwaffe is vulnerable to drones and Russian tanks, not even the latest Russian tanks.
The carnage goes on and the Russians gain more ground on fronts other than the Avdeyevka one, with the Russians escalating their attacks.

Posted by: Roger | Mar 6 2024 15:43 utc | 425

She gets a C-! I say good riddance. Yes, they cut off Russian gas to Europe (most of it) and sanctioned Russia (and its oil exports to Europe)! And replaced it with US /Qatar/Israeli LNG (and opened up the market for Australian LNG. That’s a win. But they did not topple Putin (another objective). Far from being toppled and bankrupted- Russia’s economy grew faster than all of Europe and Putin found new markets in the East for the same products ie oil and gas! But there are two big elephants in the room: 1. Putin may yet conquer all of Ukraine’s Black Sea region including Odessa and connect through to Moldova! And if it does this he will be emboldened and may go after other ‘lost’ former Soviet dominated territories ie Baltics watch out; and 2) there was a total miscalculation on what sanctions would accomplish and in the process they cut off 40% of the world’s fertilizer production from Russia and may even cut off grain exports from Ukraine ie inadvertently cause global famine. Don’t could ALL turnout a disaster! De -industrialization of Europe and undermining cheap energy in Europe – of US Allies to sell lng … was it really worth it? And if Putin is emboldened and richer – was it worth it? The policy itself she was executing was flawed. Was she a foot soldier or the author of the policy? What about the lives of the 8 million Ukrainian families who emigrated and who were destroyed by the war she helped start?

Posted by: Ayatoilet | Mar 6 2024 15:44 utc | 426

Alex Vadim@393….it’s an international problem, it is everywhere, anyone can make it, especially off shore on Pharma ships sitting in International Waters, and they are protected by the LOST which is enforced by the USA and it’s yapdogs.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 6 2024 15:59 utc | 427

State department retirement age used to be 65 but it was abolished. US state pensionable age for someone born in 1961 is age 67 years so she is going to “retire” 5 years before the pension kicks in. Plenty to be done in the next 5 years in the private sector like lobbying. Her departure is likely to signal an admission that the “project” has failed.

Posted by: Kaiama | Mar 6 2024 16:07 utc | 428

Due to the lack of reserves, poor support and the complete absence of counter-artillery warfare, a stalemate has developed when the Ukrainian Armed Forces are unable to hold positions in the fields and in open areas. In such a situation, the only right decision was made: to gradually retreat to Orikhiv, behind the walls of the city, where there is at least some shelter from Russian weapons.

https://twitter.com/MilitarySummary/status/1765393104117391841

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 6 2024 16:07 utc | 429

Ahenobarbus | Mar 5 2024 15:35 utc | 30
I think pig might be a better animal analogy. A big voracious, murderous pig runs away from the mass slaughter it intentionally caused for its own fun and profit. Oh, and for the glory of a genocidal empire and likely, in her sick mind, for her superior tribe.
Look ye soulless ginger bastard, pigs are lovely, fierce & intelligent animals ! And often quite affectionate. And tasty, too !
Also, why is Ron afraid of Death-Eaters biscotte he’s a ginge too ?!
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 6 2024 15:03 utc | 418
Qui, qui. Pigs are too good of an animal to malign by comparison with this disgusting human trash. Nice insult too. You know your latin.
“Punir les oppresseurs de l’humanité est une clémence ; leur pardonner est de la cruauté.”

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 6 2024 16:09 utc | 430

Wasn’t Kievan Rus’ a medieval country with its own culture?

Posted by: Lysias | Mar 6 2024 16:10 utc | 431

@ Norwegian
@ canuck

“An alternative explanation is that the German defense minister Pistorius has been taking orders directly from Nuland behind Scholz’ back and directed the German imbecile officers to plan one of Nuland’s “nice surprises” in the form of an attack on the Kerch bridge or the Russian mainland as such…
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 6 2024 6:26 utc | 336
I believe your idea is correct.
Posted by: canuck | Mar 6 2024 13:15 utc | 399

The vampire’s exact wording was ”nasty surprises.”
Judge Napolitano played the clip numerous times last week during his interviews. I was jolted every time i heard it. But then this is the state dept official who said “f**k the EU” when laying out her plan for a neonazi overthrow of the elected government of Ukraine in 2014. And her trannie acolyte in Kiev, who openly kissed the feet of Nuland on twitter x, is even nastier — i shudder to think is was that nasty he/she who “visited” Gonzalo in prison. RIPGonzalo.
I wonder, are there factions within the operations part of the 3-letter agency, the other part being analysis? and the power balance has shifted away from the Project Ukraine camp in the ops section, so this was leaked?
The ops part serves as a USG secret army which does its own thing under the supposed supervision of the executive branch — regardless of the law. Then there is the intel analysts part. Ray McGovern, who was an analyst, says the former should be abolished.

Posted by: suzan | Mar 6 2024 16:25 utc | 432

@ unimperator | Mar 6 2024 16:07 utc | 429
That particular report makes little sense, as other Russian sources describe a substantial AFU artillery and drone activity, with counter battery and EW lacking on RF side (actually a common complaint on at least one front line at a time). Lack of RF progress after weeks of localized offensive operations corroborate difficulties in this sector, especially in the center of Rabotino, which has too little cover to secure. The mentioned “stalemate” is described as infantry assault exchanges (allegedly AFU sends almost no armored vehicles at all), followed by artillery and drones knocking those right back. What has, allegedly, changes in the last days is AFU manpower presence has noticeably decreased for whatever reason, which doesn’t make assaults much easier because of the above.
Long story short, Dima loves making stories out of data he receives, fabricating a bow on top so it would sound all nice and tidy.

Posted by: boneless | Mar 6 2024 16:34 utc | 433

>> “Wasn’t Kievan Rus’ a medieval country with its own culture?”
Kievan Rus was just that: Rus. The kingdom was established in the near Baltic, near big lakes (Ladoga, Onego) near White Sea regions, along the rivers basins. Until the 20th. rivers and lakes were the main way of logistics in Northern Russia. Oldest settlements and churches are at nowadays remote villages along rivers. These aread in the 7th/8th centuries were wandered by Chudes, Karelians, Slavs and Norse. That’s how an initial state Rus emerged at places like Izborsk, Staraya Ladoga, Ilmen, etc.
The capital was Novgorod. Later the trade routes to Byzance (ie. Romans) and Silk Road, brought these Rus southward, again, along rivers: Don, Volga.
Kiev was a Khazarian trade post, it was taken by Vladimir Ist and his Norse/Swedish cousins, and became the new capital.
Vladimir made a deal with Byzance: he would keep the possession of the steppes north of Xersones (Sevastopol) and Don’s mouth ie. Azov sea, and in exchange defend Byzance from Turkish hordes.
In scandinavian sagas Vladimir is mentioned as Valdemar, Novgorod as Holmgård, Kiev as Konungsgård, Byzance as Miklagård.
By the time of Yaroslav, named Jarisleif, who was married with a daughter of the king of Sweden, the high Rus nobility did still speak norse.
Two famous kings of Norway, Harald and Olav, spend part of their youth at the court of Yaroslavl, then at Byzance imperial court (hence the name: Varangian guard).
In the saga of Harald Hardråde:
http://heimskringla.no/wiki/Sagan_af_Haraldi_har%C3%B0r%C3%A1%C3%B0a
so that was Rus.
Many other testimonies and travel journals from Italian, French, German chronicles, typically by monks and ecclesiastic scholars, in the 10th to 13th centuries.
Mongol-Tatar invasions wiped out the southern steppes of Rus, Kiev was kept only as a bishopdom, and Rus reconstructeddd itself around its initial northern realms, spread accross few principalties (Vladimir, Rostov, Belozersk), Novgorod and Pskov cities-states (republics). Moskva emerged later.
In all these centuries, there was no Ukraine nowhere. The name emerged as the transitional marks with Tatar Khanat, hence the name: u-kraï = edge of a land/territory.
Both from Poland West and Russia East.

Posted by: Timur | Mar 6 2024 16:45 utc | 434

DakotaRog | Mar 6 2024 14:40 utc | 417
I haven’t studied the exact hierarchy that is below Black Rock, but from what I have read, Black Rock is on top of the pyramid and owns a good part of the next tier down. I assume that it is amongst this group where US decision making takes place – Black Rock and the next tier.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 6 2024 17:00 utc | 435

as for the retirement of Nuland lovecraftian monster, it doesn’t mean the other monsters do change their policies.
In his 24.02 meeting with the press, Medvedev mentioned that 2024 will be the critical time.
Gringos and the perfidious Brits are going to find something nasty. You can count on their infinite evilness.
Macron going around barking is a symptom. He is not doing that by him alone, he’s too dumb.

Posted by: Timur | Mar 6 2024 17:01 utc | 436

Sam (in Tiraspol) | Mar 6 2024 5:41 utc | 330
*** for fuck’s sake, Nuland did not hand out COOKIES in Kiev in 2014. Those were pastries/rolls. I mean, it’s abundantly clear in every photograph. I wish I knew where this stupid meme came from because it drives me nuts every time I hear it.***
Well, they clearly were not “cream cookies” …. but no wonder there is confusion, since what people in the USA call “cookies” isn’t (or at least years ago it wasn’t) the same as in the UK.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 6 2024 17:07 utc | 437

I’ve long suspected that the “cookies” that Nuland distributed in Kiev were Mandelbrot (almond bread), as the distribution happened over Hannukah, and Mandelbrot is a traditional Jewish Hanukkah treat.

Posted by: Lysias | Mar 6 2024 17:35 utc | 438

MoT | Mar 6 2024 12:08 utc | 385
*** When she’s verified as having been dead and buried should you then celebrate.***
But only after proof of the stake and silver bullets.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 6 2024 18:18 utc | 439

“Canuck
My post was directed at an earlier post by shadowbanned, which i forgot to headline my comment with.
Yes Baikal will keep the Chinese drinking for many decades to come. Whether pipelines are enough for agriculture is another story. I guess you could service a growing area, but you wouldn’t be able to turn the hills green.
But shadowbanned’s main point is a good one: Russia is likely to be one of the winners of Climate change, and that, of course, is another reason for the jealousy and desire to break up Russia.”
Posted by: Glasshopper | Mar 6 2024 15:11 utc | 420
Natural Climate change is also good for Canada.
And more c02 is good for anilas, plamnts and humans (1)
Green plants grow faster with more CO2
. Many also become more droughtresistant because higher CO2
levels allow plants to use water more efficiently. More
abundant vegetation from increased CO2
is already apparent. Satellite images reveal
significant greening of the planet in recent decades, especially at desert margins,
where drought resistance is critical. This remarkable planetary greening is the result
of a mere 30% increase of CO2 from its preindustrial levels. Still higher CO2
levels will
bring still more benefits to agriculture.
Plants use energy from sunlight to fuse a molecule of CO2 to a molecule of water,
H2
O, to form carbohydrates. One molecule of oxygen O2
is released to the air for each
CO2
molecule removed. Biological machinery of plants reworks the carbohydrate
polymers into proteins, oils and other molecules of life. Every living creature, from
the blooming rose, to the newborn baby, is made of carbon from former atmospheric
CO2 molecules. Long-dead plants used CO2 from ancient atmospheres to produce
most of the fossil fuels, coal, oil, and natural gas that have transformed the life of
most humans – moving from drudgery and near starvation before the industrial
revolution to the rising potential for abundance today.
The fraction of the beneficial molecule CO2 in the current atmosphere is tiny,
about 0.04% by volume. This level is about 30% larger than pre-industrial levels in
1800. But today’s levels are still much smaller than the levels, 0.20% or more, that
prevailed over much of geological history. CO2 levels during the past tens of millions
of years have been much closer to starvation levels, 0.015%, when many plants die,
than to the much higher levels that most plants prefer.
Basic physics implies that more atmospheric CO2 will increase greenhouse
warming. However, atmospheric processes are so complicated that the amount of
warming cannot be reliably predicted from first principles. Recent observations of
the atmosphere and oceans, together with geological history, point to very modest
warming, about 1 C (1.8 F) if atmospheric CO2 levels are doubled.
Observations also show no significant change in extreme weather, tornadoes,
hurricanes, floods, or droughts. Sea levels are rising at about the same rate as in
centuries past. A few degrees of warming will have many benefits, longer growing
seasons and less winter heating expenses. And this will be in addition to major
benefits to agriculture.
.
More CO2 in the atmosphere is not an unprecedented experiment with an
unpredictable outcome. The Earth has done the experiment many times in the
geological past. Life flourished abundantly on land and in the oceans at much larger
CO2 levels than those today. Responsible use of fossil fuels, with cost-effective
control of genuine pollutants like fly ash or oxides of sulfur and nitrogen, will be a
major benefit for the world.
Introduction
Around the year 1861, John Tyndall, a prominent Irish physicist, discovered that
water vapor (H2O), carbon dioxide (CO2), and many other molecular gases that are
transparent to visible light can absorb invisible heat radiation—such as that given
off by a warm tea kettle, the human body, or the Earth itself. Tyndall recognized that
water vapor is the dominant greenhouse gases in the Earth’s atmosphere, with CO2
a less important contributor.
Tyndall’s discovery came as the combustion of coal in the Industrial Revolution was beginning to release substantial amounts of CO2
. These emissions have coincided with a steady increase of atmospheric CO2
, from around 285 ppm (partsper-million) in the 1860s to around 400 ppm today.
Increased CO2 levels have likely produced some warming of the Earth and will
continue to do so in the future, although with ever decreasing efficiency because
of the “logarithmic” dependence of warming on CO2 concentrations, an important
detail discussed more extensively below. At the same time, more CO2 will have a
hugely beneficial effect on agriculture, forests and plant growth in general. The
benefits of more CO2 will greatly exceed any harm.”
1, https://www.commerce.senate.gov/services/files/FC7C4946-11A3-4967-BF28-8D0386608D3E

Posted by: canuck | Mar 6 2024 18:39 utc | 440

@Glasshopper | Mar 6 2024 15:11 utc | 420

But shadowbanned’s main point is a good one: Russia is likely to be one of the winners of Climate change, and that, of course, is another reason for the jealousy and desire to break up Russia.

The winner of a game that doesn’t exist.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 6 2024 18:53 utc | 441

@suzan | Mar 6 2024 16:25 utc | 432

The vampire’s exact wording was ”nasty surprises.”

US Under Secretary of State: Putin will get “nice surprises” on battlefield in 2024
“I also leave with greater confidence that, even as Ukraine strengthens its defences, Mr Putin is going to get some nice surprises on the battlefield, and Ukraine will make some very strong success this year.”

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 6 2024 19:00 utc | 442

Video of Nuland in Kiev
https://t.me/inessas1992/5919
“nice surprises” it is

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 6 2024 19:05 utc | 443

“I wonder, are there factions within the operations part of the 3-letter agency, the other part being analysis? and the power balance has shifted away from the Project Ukraine camp in the ops section, so this was leaked?”
Posted by: suzan | Mar 6 2024 16:25 utc | 432
Yes, the CIA , like many institutions, have factions. Tucker Carlson’s father Dick was in ‘the less evil’ faction; Tucker’s natural mother abandoned him as she moved to France-Tucker and his brother never saw her again.
His father, Dick, had the good fortune to marry a Swanson of the Swanson food family.
There are Americans in the CIA and close to it whom would like to change the CIA’s direction.
Can they do it over time?
I would handicap it as 50/50

Posted by: canuck | Mar 6 2024 19:15 utc | 444

If I had to take a guess, I believe Nuland resigned because she fell out of favour. So full of Russian bile she can only advocate for escalation even in the face of obvious impending catastrophe. She wanted escalation like what she promised in Kiev a few weeks ago and ultimately couldn’t get backing for it. i heard she was not confirmed as Deputy to Blinken after the previous deputy retired last year (Wendy Sherman). Maybe she is too nuts even for the fanatics at the upper echelons of the deep state who maybe are not ready to see their mansions turned to glass just yet.
What could be worse for humanity is her being lined up to replace Stoltenberg at NATO at the end of the year. They may be angling to get her ensconced into that post before Trump can veto her nomination

Posted by: DaVinci | Mar 6 2024 19:22 utc | 445

canuck | Mar 6 2024 18:39 utc | 440
That’s about what I am seeing.
I tried to find an average water vapour content – humidity. No records, global measurement or anything of that kind exists, so I worked on 1% average in the latitudes that receive reasonable radiation from the sun. with CO2 and CH4 combined at 0.04x (I( forget the third digit), it worked out at 1/23rd of greenhouse affect. Total greenhouse effect at 19 degrees, CO2 and CH4 give about 0.17 degrees per 100 ppm.
If my calculations are somewhere in the ball park, emissions since the industrial revolution have contributed less than 0.2 degrees to global warming.
Looking at Ice core charts, previous interglacials have been much warmer than this one. Temps could spike another 4 degrees or so and not be above the past four interglacials. Or likewise we could drop back into the next cold period at any time. As yet, we are not even past previous peaks in this current period termed the holocene.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 6 2024 19:25 utc | 446

If Vikki the Piggy is 62, she can collect her Social Security retirement benefits, albeit at a lower level than if she were to “retire”at age 67, the current age where full benefits are accorded to her cohort. I doubt she needs the money though.

Posted by: OldFart | Mar 6 2024 19:38 utc | 447

Australia is chocking on crystal meth.
Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 6 2024 12:53 utc | 393
Sounds like you’re one of them! You need to get out more and meet middle Australia, who are just your average working folk, comfortable with beer and sport and 60 Minutes and New Idea and who don’t give a shit about geopolitics and who woukd only take up a weapon if Indonesians landed at Darwin. Comfortable apathy is the biggest drug in Australia … as it is in most non-waring nations.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 6 2024 20:01 utc | 448

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 6 2024 13:12 utc | 396
All very informative and long term. But why rant on about climate change to me? Stick to a commenter’s point if you want to disagree or expand on it. I was talking about some immediate war that PeterAU1 was forecasting in the next 9 months, not “an end of the century battle for Himalayan water resources”.
Sheesh. No wonder you’re unpopular round here. You just word dump whether apprporiate or not. Please go back to ignoring my posts. And I’ll read yours when they’re concise and on point.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 6 2024 20:13 utc | 449

Jake Blanchard | Mar 6 2024 20:01 utc | 448
You describe the average Aussie pretty well, though the people about me have changed somewhat due to nearly a decade of propaganda. Prior to MH17 they mostly felt US was the main threat to world peace. Now they believe we need US to protect us from big bad China.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 6 2024 20:24 utc | 450

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 6 2024 20:01 utc | 448
Sure. No hard feelings, mate, – as we say over here. Yet I see it with my own eyes, every single day. I do pay my taxes and do support all those misfortunate. I have been living and working here for long enough to see the change. Turn off the box of eye candies on your wall once in a while, and walk around your suburb to awake yourself, mate.

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 6 2024 21:25 utc | 451

@ Norwegian | Mar 6 2024 19:05 utc | 443
I looked up the reference for Toria’s use of “nasty surprises.” The video clip is from a speech she gave at CSIS recently.
Nuland said there,

“And as I said in Kiev three weeks ago, this funding will ensure Putin faces some nasty surprises on the battlefield this year…” (see link below at ~ 9:11)

Perhaps the more diplomatic word was used in Kiev but when speaking before the Center of Strategic and International Studies audience she used “nasty surprises.”
Neocon definition: nice = nasty ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg792ih6pG0

Posted by: suzan | Mar 6 2024 21:42 utc | 452

Posted by: suzan | Mar 6 2024 21:42 utc | 452
you have to take into account the referent when interpreting her statements. “we have some nice surprises …” means that the surprises are nice with respect to us, while “putin has some nasty surprises …” means that with respect to putin the surprises are nasty for him.

Posted by: frkorz | Mar 6 2024 22:19 utc | 453

“1. …though the people about me have changed somewhat due to nearly a decade of propaganda.
2. Prior to MH17 they mostly felt US was the main threat to world peace. Now they believe we need US to protect us from big bad China”.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 6 2024 20:24 utc | 450
1. Ah yes, the old “worldview according to circle of friends syndrome”. Society today is so like-minded cloistered (aka groupthink). Imo, keeping aware of the normies’ thinking via a bit of MSM is paramount to the broader “reality”, ie national consensus.
2. You and I both remember the Whitlam detente with China … and Keating’s wisdom of “engagement not conflict”. How about Latham’s “conga line of suckholes” re US and AU into Iraq. Ah, the old days.
I see it as the habitual US “enemy syndrobe”, which the Canberran vassals echo. Same puppetry, different enemy. All to do with AU lack of geopolitical independence of thinking, a dead duck these days. Sob sob. Clearly Germany’s weakness too. Ours used to be obescience and forelock tugging to the UK and EU. Now its all three “old empires” rather than any one. It’s basically an Anglo thing, I reckon. “Those Chinks and Mullahs got to be up to no good. Send in the Marines”, stuff.
There’s a beautiful comedy skit (I’ve lost) of AU being that mouthy, supportive coward BEHIND the loudmouth playground bully (US). [The little Richard Hammond behind the big Jeremy Clarkson, if you will. Lol.]

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 6 2024 22:27 utc | 454

Posted by: canuck | Mar 6 2024 19:15 utc | 444
Yeah, re Carlson and this ridiculous popular conspiracy trope that he is currently, or has previously been, a CIA asset:
I once thought of joining the law profession because my father was in it. But I soon realised it wasn’t for me. That doesnt make me now a clandestine lawyer.
I once applied for a job in aeronautucal design, but they said my maths wasn’t good enough. That doesn’t make me today an undercover Air Force operative.
Has ANYONE considered why, as Putin said, Carlson “once applied for” — but evidently didnt get — a CIA job? Answer: not suitable. So there you go.
With his political affiliations, mouthy opinions, independent and contrarian intellect, twisted humour, he is far far from the sort of personality the CIA would want anything to do with. He checks his facts and sources (to a certain depth) so is highly unlikely to be duped by deep state manipulations through him. Also, too many followers and supporters to be bought off, imo.
And do you think Putin would even let him in the room if the FSB even sniffed he was a hostile agent. It’s laughable. Please let it go, people.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 6 2024 22:54 utc | 455

@ frkorz | Mar 6 2024 22:19 utc | 453
Thanks for that. Good point.

Posted by: suzan | Mar 6 2024 23:46 utc | 456

@ frkorz | Mar 6 2024 22:19 utc | 453
But see her usage in Norwegian’s post: Norwegian | Mar 6 2024 19:00 utc | 442:

“I also leave with greater confidence that, even as Ukraine strengthens its defences, Mr Putin is going to get some nice surprises on the battlefield, and Ukraine will make some very strong success this year.”

That does not fit your sound reasoning.

Posted by: suzan | Mar 6 2024 23:58 utc | 457

@ frkorz | Mar 6 2024 22:19 utc | 4
Well, i am an idiot sometimes as #442 could be read as:
“ putin is going to get some nice surprises [from us] on the battlefield”
and so you are correct.
Good thing this thread is dead.

Posted by: suzan | Mar 7 2024 0:04 utc | 458

In response to

Good thing this thread is dead.
Posted by: suzan | Mar 7 2024 0:04 utc | 458

Yeah, only us oldies skimming back through looking for signal in the noise

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 7 2024 0:45 utc | 459

Victoria Nuland RESIGNS, Glenn Greenwald EVISCERATES Leading Neocon: Interview
[12 mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8J13OdXjz8

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 7 2024 1:07 utc | 460

Posted by: suzan | Mar 7 2024 0:04 utc | 458
i wasgoing onm memory so i was not really exact and as you point out the ambiguity in the statement i think its a tie. so we are both safe.

Posted by: frkorz | Mar 7 2024 3:13 utc | 461

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 7 2024 0:45 utc | 459
i resemble that remark.

Posted by: frkorz | Mar 7 2024 3:15 utc | 462

Fun fact.
In an era which encourages political powerbrokers to look like movie stars, it’s ironic that Victoria Nuland reminds people of The Creature From The Black Lagoon.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 7 2024 5:38 utc | 463

@ Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 7 2024 5:38 utc | 463 about the cookie monster
She didn’t always look like currently but has grown into the part in many ways.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 7 2024 5:52 utc | 464

So ..the German phone conference is not just a side show
Ambassador Berger hit back, describing Wallace’s comments as “extremely unhelpful.”
“This is what Russia wants by publishing this phone conversation,” Berger said while speaking on BBC Radio 4 on Wednesday. “In the end, it was a very professional talk about the use of long-range missiles. But we have to be careful not to fall into the Russian trap of creating division, and regrettably, some people have fallen into this trap,” he cautioned.
via rt
a very professional talk…ie “authorised”

Posted by: Jo | Mar 7 2024 7:48 utc | 465

Now that Victoria Nuland is out of the picture Speaker Johnson will have no trouble to pass Biden’s frozen ~$60 billions funding bill.
The lack of progress is all Nuland’s fault.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2024 17:31 utc | 112
I don’t think so-Johnson realizes that the border issue-ie the Dems aren’t defending it-is a winner for the November election he won’t budge on Ukraine funding till the Dems agree on a bill to stop the illegal immigration, if they do.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 7 2024 12:40 utc | 466

@neo168 | Mar 5 2024 19:49 utc | 195
“Vicki the Hutt”
Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 5 2024 19:54 utc | 199
Jabba the Hutt was much better looking than Viki Monster.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 7 2024 12:42 utc | 467

“Those who argue that the US benefits from Israel’s position as ‘an unsinkable aircraft carrier’ are deluding themselves: until Israel came along the US didn’t need an aircraft carrier in the middle east, it was surrounded by Arab allies eager to subordinate themselves to the Empire’s energy requirements and support for their reactionary rulers. ”
bevin 142
Well Saddam Hussein wanted to anex Kuwait in 1990 (Us went after him) and in 2003 he threatened to Iraqui oil in Euros (US finished him off)-that doesn’t match with your idea that ” the US didn’t need an aircraft carrier in the middle east , it was surrounded by Arab allies eager to subordinate themselves to the Empire’s energy requirement …”
Finally, Iran is not an Arabic country and after 1979 was never an “eager ally”.
Hence, Virginia, the US sees Israel as an unsinkable aircraft carrier and ally.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 7 2024 12:56 utc | 468