canuck | Mar 19 2024 15:42 utc | 95
Some of the hunter gathers had various things for birth control and a little herbal medicine but the main reason they are healthy as a group is survival of the fittest. Infant mortality and childhood mortality help greatly in that regard. Then there are droughts and famines further weeding out the week.
Due to the autoimmune conditions I have suffered throughout my life I would have been weeded out.
According to bones and so forth, the early farmers were not as healthy as the huntergatherers due to limited diet causing mineral deficiencies and that sort of thing, whereas the huntergathers still had a great variety in their diet.
Something that stands out a bit is the height of the poor that came here from the industrial areas of Britain in the 1850s compared to their offspring.
But overall, here in the developed west, and the same happens everywhere the lower the infant and childhood mortality rate, the unhealthier the general population is.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 19 2024 21:10 utc | 103

Posted by: canuck | Mar 19 2024 15:38 utc | 94
What does the housing expert say who became famous for predicting the financial crash Bill Mcbride?
https://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2024/03/real-estate-newsletter-articles-this_01728134623.html?m=1

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 19 2024 22:17 utc | 105

“6 inches taller and 15% smarter – how did you compute that, canuck?”
I also hear you are into gold properties. There’s a really nice patch I’d love to offer you.
Posted by: persiflo | Mar 19 2024 16:10 utc | 96
Its called anthropology: pick up a book called : “Nutrition and Physical Degenration” A Comparison of Primitive and Modern Diets” by Weston Price 1936. (1)(2)
Enlighten yourself its all true:
1. https://www.westonaprice.org/#gsc.tab=0
2. “The Weston A. Price diet is a way to apply ancient dietary wisdom to modern life.
Dr. Weston Price (1870-1948) was a dentist who traveled to many of the most remote parts of the world to study the health and diets of traditional peoples.
His initial goal was to discover the secret to the excellent dental health of the ancient cultures he encountered. But the dietary wisdom that has become the Weston A. Price diet, can benefit the whole person.
Improved heart health, skin health, cognition, mood, and energy, along with reducing inflammation and autoimmune disorders are some of the key benefits of the Weston A. Price diet.
In this article, we’ll explore the origins of the Weston A. Price diet, along with its central principles and guidelines.” (3)
3. https://www.doctorkiltz.com/weston-a-price-diet/

Posted by: canuck | Mar 19 2024 22:33 utc | 107

The Housing Bubble and Mortgage Debt as a Percent of GDP
https://calculatedrisk.substack.com/p/update-the-housing-bubble-and-mortgage
This guy knows what he is talking about.
Too many ideologues just love to compare Apple’s with oranges.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 19 2024 22:45 utc | 109

anuck | Mar 19 2024 15:42 utc | 95
Some of the hunter gathers had various things for birth control and a little herbal medicine but the main reason they are healthy as a group is survival of the fittest. Infant mortality and childhood mortality help greatly in that regard. Then there are droughts and famines further weeding out the week.
Due to the autoimmune conditions I have suffered throughout my life I would have been weeded out.
According to bones and so forth, the early farmers were not as healthy as the hunter gatherers due to limited diet causing mineral deficiencies and that sort of thing, whereas the hunter gathers still had a great variety in their diet.
Something that stands out a bit is the height of the poor that came here from the industrial areas of Britain in the 1850s compared to their offspring.
But overall, here in the developed west, and the same happens everywhere the lower the infant and childhood mortality rate, the unhealthier the general population is.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 19 2024 21:10 utc | 103
Yes I see your points-the hunter gatherer’s but they did know their herbs, especially the women-so much so that in the ancient and medieval times Priests, later Doctors would call them ‘sorceress’s’ and then ‘witches”.
Sorry, man 12,000 years ago did eat better than us today-don’t believe me its all in the literature. For example: why do we need to supplement ourselves with salt. Over millions of years our body would have adapted so we didn’t need it as an outside supplement. The reason is 12,000 and more years ago man ate the blood of the animal which was extremely salty. Various religions stopped the pratice (though not the Hungarian they have blood sausage to this day).(1)
Modern diabetes , heart attacks (in the late 19th century heart attacks were extremely rare), most come from metabolic dysfunction from steel cut grain (started 1880’s) seed oils, canola, corn oil, sunflower oil palm, and more sugar these oil mess up your gut metabolism.
As for height before agriculture:
“Men from Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Netherlands, Croatia, and Montenegro are, on average, the tallest in the world, according to new research that helps to explain why such individuals often grow to six feet and more in height. Their stature appears to be at least partly a genetic legacy of the Upper Paleolithic Gravettian culture, says the study, which is published in the journal Royal Society Open Science. The Upper Paleolithic broadly dates to between 50,000 and 10,000 years ago. “The Gravettian is the most important prehistoric culture of the Upper Paleolithic Europe and is sometimes called ‘the culture of mammoth hunters,'” lead author Pavel Grasgruber of Masaryk University told Seeker. “I suspect that this big game specialization associated with a surplus of high-quality proteins and low population density created environmental conditions leading to the selection of exceptionally tall males.” (2)
1. https://www.livescience.com/58671-tallest-men-trace-to-paleolithic-mammoth-hunters.html
“Remains of Gravettian men suggest that they stood between 5 feet 10 inches and 6 feet 2 inches on average, which was an extraordinary size for the time. In contrast, men among the ancient Maya who lived several thousand years later were 5 feet 2 inches tall on average. Mayan women were about 4 feet tall on average.”
2. ” Nutrition and Physical Degeneration” A Comparison of Primitive and Modern Diets and Their Effects” Weston Price, 1938.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 19 2024 22:53 utc | 111

canuck | Mar 19 2024 22:53 utc | 111
Salt… ever watched the migration of African grazing herds? he Zebras – why do they travel to an area with poor feed little or no water and lick dirt and rocks. Man differs from most animals and mammals in that man can live virtually anywhere but in any areas can become deficient in some minerals. As with those grazing animals in their natural and original habitat that still have to migrate towards natural mineral licks.
That one struck me right at the start. will go back to your comment and continue reading.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 2:26 utc | 113

“Men from Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Netherlands, Croatia, and Montenegro are, on average, the tallest in the world, according to new research that helps to explain why such individuals often grow to six feet and more in height.
Lookup the peoples at the head of the Nile or somewhere around that area. Compare them to the bushmen or whatever the are called.
Both genetics and malnutrition can affect physical build. The main problem the modern west has is lack of exercise/physical work and woke medicine/science, that is apart from the difference in infant and childhood mortality rates.
Like real estate bubbles and stock market bubbles are used by politicians to prove a good economy, low infant and child mortality rates are used to show good health care.
Tin foil hat clowns also come up with all sorts of shit. Those two things, primarily low infant mortality rates and lack of physical work mean higher healthcare costs.
Arctic peoples lived on diets very high in animal proteins and fats, very little vegetable foods if any. Other peoples lived on virtually all vegetable diet, eating anything else that walked crawled wriggled or flew to add a little protein.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 2:45 utc | 115

This world, a world of fake environmentalists that purchase all the expensive bling and occasionally may go stomping through the scrub in their name brand hiking boots.
How many have simply lived and observed it without preconceived ideas – wondered about why birds build there nests, or back in this world, why Kenyans so consistently win long distant olympic running events, or why African Americans excel in many sports.
So many things like these to be observed, both in nature and in the human world which iself, is part of the natural world.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 3:29 utc | 117

persiflo | Mar 20 2024 10:48 utc | 118
The birds nest… much of what we think is dictated by the genes we inherit. The factory supplied operating system.
Saw it all the time working with animals and observing animals. The thing called instinct. Pre-programming via genetics. It was the same watching my children developing from bawling shitting babies into their preprogramed character.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 11:05 utc | 119

With all due respect Peter I’ve been studying this for years and you are far behind in this issue.
I’m not going to waste my time on more documentary proof as you don’t seem to recognize it.
We agree to disagree.
Have a good day.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 20 2024 11:24 utc | 121

Canuck, I very much like science but spouting the word ‘science’ is to me somewhat meaningless.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 12:03 utc | 123

https://arktos.com/2022/06/03/science-and-tradition/
Advanced piece on science.
As to animal intelligence, although they are far more intelligent than we often like to acknowledge, they lack a level of intelligence that humans have, sometimes called the power of thought. Aristotle identified three progressive layers of soul, the plant, animal and human. Animals may very well contain impressive levels of instinctive intelligence – such as nest-building or long-distance navigating – but they are not aware of their own capacities of awareness and cannot reason much beyond solving immediate physical tasks, like monkeys using a twig to prize out honey from within a tree.
Part of the art of Dark Politicks involves engaging people at the sub-thought level, often using emotion, at which point they go into Animal Mode and can be treated and will obey as such. Tie the horse to a tree and it submits to the situation, for hours or days if need be, only breaking free if it is being attacked at which point fight-or-flight instincts take over.
Science is an art. If well practiced it is extremely valuable; if corruptly practiced it is garbage. Everything in the human realm is like this. You could have a fantastically run communist state or a hellscape communist state; it all depends on the soul / mind level of the leaders and the people – i.e. high or low culture. There is no system or method, including the scientific, which can transcend this basic common sense level of practical truth.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 20 2024 14:57 utc | 125

canuck | Mar 20 2024 15:42 utc | 126
There are a number of diseases associated with obesity. Food/energy intake compared to energy expenditure. An abundance of food and far less energy expenditure equals obesity.
Part of the scientific bullshit the last decades (related to heart) is that animal fats are bad for you. Peoples living in the far north have always consumed large amounts of animal fats as the main energy source. That does now seem to be coming around to there point where they are starting to recognise that animal fats are no worse or better than other forms of energy intake.
The lack of both animals fats and sun due to the skin cancer fad led to vitamin D deficiency, something doctors rarely saw before those two health fads.
One area that does need serious scientific research is the link of copper levels to cancer.
Throughout this illnes, I have experimented with various foods and mineral supplements. In one of these I began drinking fruit juice – pineapple juice as I thought there were a couple of chemical compounds in it that may help. I also began taking vitamin C supplements.
I found after a time this was causing even more fatigue plus I developed diarrhea. I did some research and found that vitamin C depletes copper so began taking copper and stopped vitamin C supplement and juice.
I looked up maximum safe daily intake of copper and began taking that amount each day. After some I time I began getting growths on my skin that grew very fast and were very itchy. I went to a doctor, had one cut off and it was analysed. I forget the name of it now but apparently they were somewhat benign but could turn into cancer and was advised to have the rest cut off.
I had a think about it and did a bit of research. Copper is required for building new blood vessels. I then stopped the copper supplements and began taking vitamin C again to get copper levels back down. Very soon the growths began drying up and falling off. When the last one had nearly disappeared – I thought it too was gone – I stopped the vitamin C supplements. That last one didn’t quite disappear so I use it now to gauge my copper levels. If it starts to grow, I take some vitamin C to get copper levels down and the growth fades.
At some point in the years of medical related research I had done, I had read about huge intravenous amounts of vitamin C to cure cancer and it looked like quackery to me. A lot of their claims were but now I believe some solid scientific research is required into the very definite link between high copper levels and abnormal growths which includes cancer.
Very few mineral levels can be checked with blood tests as many are stored in body tissue and biopsy is required. In the case of copper it is stored in the liver and a liver biopsy is required. But it could also be that blood copper levels may need a much finer scale as copper must be circulating in the blood to create the new blood vessels. Whether it is the amount of copper in the blood or the amount of copper in liver that triggers the start of an abnormal growth I do not know. All I know is there is a very strong link between copper and abnormal growths yet I find no mention of this in medical literature.
The house I live in now I bought some time after my vitamin C and copper experiments. And old house I bought to renovate in the times that I felt better. Got ot to the stage we could move in but as my health deteriorated was unable to finish it.
But when we moved in, the growth I use as a gauge began growing again. The water supply from the mains to the house was copper so I replaced that with poly, leaving only the very short amount of copper, a meter or so that runs up through the wall to the cupboard under the kitchen sink. That made a huge difference.
The developed world has a much higher cancer rate and I feel that is strongly linked to copper plumbing.
What we have is both better diagnosis for the average person which may affect stats a little plus plenty of high energy food combined with far less energy expenditure in our daily lives, then there also the things like copper pipes which is one I have isolated as very likely being responsible for increased abnormal growth rates (as in cancer and so forth)
Those old photos from the late 1800s to early 1900s. The faces of ordinary people very often had a similar look to the faces of todays athletes. Much energy expenditure in a normal days work. Timber cutting, farming – cropping/stockwork work, mining, road building ect.
Another I will throw in just recently. Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin for covid. I lot of anecdotal evidence they greatly improved the outcome. Both Russia and China tested these to see if they reduced body virus levels but they did not. What they did not test these for is their effect on regulating the immune system both act very strongly that way but they are rarely used as anti inflammatory as the mechanism of how they work is not understood.
In covid, the symptoms and adverse outcomes were due mostly to over reaction of the immune system rather than the virus itself.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 20 2024 21:16 utc | 127