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March 20, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-086
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What to say/ask your Jewish friends?
In the last Palestinian thread we had this:
My Jewish friend who was cheering on Israel until theICJ case now has temporary amnesia bit still thinks poor Israelid are victims.
@Posted by: Pq | Mar 20 2024 12:19 utc | 158
What does your “Jewish friend” say when you remind him that Israel had Hamas’ Oct 7th plan a full year in advance
and then removed the majority of their forces around Gaza just in time for Oct 7th?
Don’t let your “friend” say that Israel had misjudged Hamas’ intent. It was written down in their
plan. Written down. Hamas planned to make Israel complacent. It was in writing, Israel knew their plan.
Israel knew that the Hamas operational plan for Oct 7th couldn’t work…without Israel’s help.
Israel removed the majority of their forces around Gaza just in time for Oct 7th.
Israeli leadership had dismissed all intelligence alarms in the weeks and months leading up to Oct 7th
even restricted the access to raw intelligence. Access by their own intelligence personnel – Restricted.
And once Hamas broke threw the wall the IDF delayed arriving in force for hours. What does he make of that?
Dare you ask him about his knowledge of the use of the Hannibal Doctrine?
Then we will ask you if you recognize symptoms of psychopathy and/or narcissism in your “friend”.
These are never ever at fault. Never. And if you call them on their behavior they are puzzled.
It cannot be them, so it must be something wrong with you — “antisemite”, perhaps?
Posted by: librul | Mar 20 2024 13:46 utc | 1
isreal turned itself into a one legged man in an ass kicking contest
Posted by: michael crump | Mar 20 2024 14:29 utc | 2
It would make for a nice bit of dark comedy to have a skit where Israel funded a PR guy to help them rebrand, and improve their image on college campuses.
Pull up the Budweiser trucks, hire some swimsuit models, and it’s kegger time, with a Hawaiin Luau theme (without the roasted pig)! Just have to discretely place some Stars of David around to get across the messaging that Zionists like to party hearty.
“Take a hit on this Tikun Olam!” might get heard as some of the potent Israeli grown pot got passed around. I figure Bob Odenkirk could play the sleazy PR guy, or perhaps Jay Mohr.
Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 20 2024 15:05 utc | 3
Many broken eggs. Is there a chef or a coterie of cooks who even know how to make omelets in the depraved west? Perhaps only at grassroots, “deplorable” level?
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[cited by Patrick Lawrence. See consortiumnews article cited below]
The Shoah after Gaza
Pankaj Mishra
March 21,2024
“Israel today is dynamiting the edifice of global norms built after 1945, which has been tottering since the catastrophic and still unpunished war on terror and Vladimir Putin’s revanchist war in Ukraine. The profound rupture we feel today between the past and the present is a rupture in the moral history of the world since the ground zero of 1945 — the history in which the Shoah has been for many years the central event and universal reference.”
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n06/pankaj-mishra/the-shoah-after-gaza
~~
PATRICK LAWRENCE: Authorized Atrocities
March 20, 2024
…And so we discover — or remind ourselves, depending on how attentive we have been to events — that the post–1945 edifice has looked from the start roughly as it looks now. Israel is at bottom an outcome, not the prime cause of anything.
Certainly the grotesque spectacle of mass murder and wholesale destruction we witness daily has marked a rupture, to stay with Mishra’s term. But to assert that this rupture lies in Israel’s conduct is to sustain an insidious mythology of innocence for the West…
But whose mistake is Israel? It was the West, Britain in the lead, that created Israel by caving to the Zionists at the expense of indigenous Palestinians. This is the reality of power that should weigh most heavily on our shoulders. Israel ‘R’ us.
Britain’s abandonment of the 1920 Mandate brings us to one of the deeper characteristics of our time, our postwar edifice. This is the ever more complete disregard of those in power for the principles, standards and broadly accepted ethics that give form and coherence to a stable civilization and keep its public space clean and well lit.
In our crumbling edifice, everything is done according to its value as an expedient to a desired outcome. This, too, is a kind of depravity. And it is this depravity that produces the depravity we watch as we watch Israel’s effort to destroy an entire people.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/03/20/patrick-lawrence-authorized-atrocities/
Posted by: suzan | Mar 20 2024 15:46 utc | 4
Posted by: JAB | Mar 20 2024 16:08 utc | 6
After stating that Ireland will always back Palestine over Israel at a meeting with the US president on Saturday, the Irish PM, a WEF poster boy, resigned from his job and as leader of his political party.
This makes me think many things, all of them not good, if you’re a Palestinian.
Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Mar 20 2024 17:19 utc | 7
Throughout history and throughout the world, so-called Jews have fomented discord and dissension… Now they are doing it to themselves…
Israel is facing an early death… Hezbollah can destroy Israel vital infrastructure in a few hours… A few missiles could destroy 5 desalination plants and Haifa’s oil infrastructure… Then, there’s no Israel, just a huge Gaza-like area where nobody can live.
Posted by: Liberator | Mar 20 2024 18:17 utc | 8
“Throughout history and throughout the world, so-called Jews have fomented discord and dissension… Now they are doing it to themselves…
Israel is facing an early death… Hezbollah can destroy Israel vital infrastructure in a few hours… A few missiles could destroy 5 desalination plants and Haifa’s oil infrastructure… Then, there’s no Israel, just a huge Gaza-like area where nobody can live.”
Posted by: Liberator | Mar 20 2024 18:17 utc | 9
This is why site traffic at MoA is down so dramatically. “High quality” posts like these. This used to be a good source of information but has since been hijacked by human infants.
Posted by: JonasFanz | Mar 20 2024 18:44 utc | 9
Could b or some barfly here with military background interpret the following DoD documents? The concert I have are implications and applicability to the US role in Gaza civilian deaths and the exemption of 5210.56 from CHM&R, e.g. is the exemption a green light for military police in domestic US operations?
CIVILIAN HARM MITIGATION AND RESPONSE
https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/300017p.pdf
DoD Directive 5210.56, “Carrying of Firearms and the Use of Force by
DoD Personnel Engaged in Security, Law and Order, or
Counterintelligence Activities,” April 1, 2011
https://irp.fas.org/doddir/dod/d5210_56.pdf
I just heard someone argue the CHM&R update was what triggered the self immolation of the Air Force Intel officer
Posted by: bill wolfe | Mar 20 2024 19:05 utc | 10
I have tried to talk to students about the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people… and failed. Instead of being worried about getting fired I should have been worried that the kids wouldn’t even care. I will try again.
Posted by: Rae | Mar 20 2024 19:15 utc | 11
Could the moderator please remove those contributors who equate Judaism with Zionism? They are doing Israel’s job for them, and they are seriously degrading the quality of this news and opinion source.
Posted by: JAB | Mar 20 2024 19:19 utc | 12
Some good news:
“Canada will impose a ban on arms sales to Israel, the country’s Foreign Minister Melanie Joly announced on Tuesday. “It’s a real thing,” Joly told Canadian newspaper The Toronto Star on Tuesday. The decision follows a vote of 204-117 in the Canadian parliament on Monday in favor of ending the sales. While it originally called for a suspension, it was later changed into a full ban. ”
Right
Post #1 is not exclusively for your friends that are Jewish.
Posted by: librul | Mar 20 2024 19:58 utc | 14
canuck @15
It is indeed good news. I have to look into who voted for and against. Was it along party lines?
Posted by: AJ | Mar 20 2024 20:00 utc | 15
@ JonasFanz | 10
History like the truth can be painful… but if you study it well it will set you free.
Case in point: the Russian Revolution was NOT Russian; it was bolchevik and 80% of Bolshevik leaders were were Marxist Talmudists a.k.a. called Jews.
Alastair Crooke revealed Monday that senior Rabbis encourage IDF soldiers to kill Palestinian children and women as a way to stop the supply of Hamas fighters….
I suggest, Jonas Fanz, you read the Talmud. It will dispel any perception of human decency you may think Zionists have.
Posted by: Liberator | Mar 20 2024 20:03 utc | 16
Put an end to the Genocide. Put an end to the Israeli occupation.
We are all Palestinian! I understood this cry to mean that the genocide is not only a genocide of the Palestinian people, a crime with a “definition”, against a “group”, but against all humanity. And what should anyone who retains enough humanity in them do about a crime being perpetrated against them?
If people don’t understand what a crime against humanity is, and don’t take an unequivocal stand against this criminal Zionist terror organization called “Israel”, they should have their humanity checked, or they are complicit.
Posted by: SlowDL | Mar 20 2024 20:04 utc | 17
Ban on Canada supplying weapons to Israel is for future contracts. Current contracts are not affected. These can run for multiple years forward. Israel won’t be running out of weapons before Gazans
Posted by: Hankster | Mar 20 2024 20:17 utc | 18
@ JAB | 14
Ah… the difference between Judaism and Zionism…!
Judaism no longer exists if it ever existed… The Jewish Encyclopedia itself states that the CURRENT MORPH is actually Rabbinical Judaism which is a euphemism for Rabbinical Pharaism. Pharaism is anchored in the Talmud, not the Torah.
Zionism is based on the Talmud and utilizing the fraudulent concept of the “ChosenPeople” to create a ruling elite to dominate mankind which consists, according to the Talmud, of mostly animals, namely, non Yalmudic human beings.
The Talmud provided the philosophical foundation for the Nazi racial superiority cult… The Talmud’s origin is NOT what they tell you. It is not the oral revelation by God to Moses. The origin of the Talmud is the Captivity in Babylon. The Talmud is a compendium of Babylonian paganism with copious rabbinical interpretations. It has nothing to do with Moses.
Posted by: Liberator | Mar 20 2024 20:18 utc | 19
A comment that raised a decent enough point gets attacked as infantile but I too wonder as to why Haifa still exists after half a year of genocide.
If my comment is also infantile then so be it.
“Israel” closed off Gaza to everything necessary for life right at the start, everyone knew (or could have) where that would end and here we are.
In addition in these months there has been no shortage of showing what “Israel” has done in the past, just in case anyone thought they wouldn’t dare or that they wouldn’t debase themselves to such a low level.
Why the unlimited patience?
Playing politics? Playing “ethical supremacy”? Playing innocent?
All of humanity is at fault for not stopping the zionists. We already pay the price and will continue to do so because there is only one objective reality. (That is how God works, no mumbo jumbo required (although that may come later)).
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Mar 20 2024 20:24 utc | 20
Liberator, like all embodiments of the unresolved contradictions of a dying system, is a perfect moniker for a dying voice of Zionism. Unlike the dying system, Liberator can be silenced with a simple click.
Yes, “This is why site traffic at MoA is down so dramatically.” but “human infants” cannot be the reason… racist, persistently toxic posters are.
Posted by: SlowDL | Mar 20 2024 20:26 utc | 21
Clancy 7 – Leo Varadkar, resigned in disgrace as PM because of his far left woke atheism………he was the Irish version of Volo. Most likely the worst PM in Irish history, at least since the early mid 1920’s when Ireland was ruled by fascists ( the Fine Gael was founded by these fascists, and is the party Leo lead)
The smashing referendum defeat for radical constitutional changes, specifically removing the word mother and woman from the constitution.
Leo was an atheist, radical, anti Catholic, anti family, pro EU massive immigration flunkie…..good riddance to very bad garbage…….Omgosh.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Mar 20 2024 20:30 utc | 22
Varadkar may have been told clearly that he could choose between going or dying.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Mar 20 2024 20:44 utc | 23
@ SlowDL | 23
Ah… How typically Zionistic… ad hominem attacks instead of factual arguments.
I expected nothing else. I’m old enough to know and have experienced how they work.
Posted by: Liberator | Mar 20 2024 21:01 utc | 24
This is shocking news and a real indictment of both the US and the Palestinian Authority.
Israel is running its prisons on the model established by the Nazis where guards beat political prisoners to death as a matter of routine.
“Fatah leader and high-profile Palestinian prisoner Marwan Barghouti has been reportedly beaten “with clubs” by Israeli prison guards during his solitary confinement at Israel’s Megiddo prison, as the Palestine Liberation Organization accused Israel of endangering his life.
“Barghouti’s family and the Palestinian Commission for Detainees and Ex-Prisoners’ Affairs said he suffered serious injuries from the assault and are calling on support from the international community.
“Qadura Fares, the head of the Palestinian Commission for Detainees and Ex-Prisoners’ Affairs, told Israeli newspaper Haaretz that they are worried about 65-year-old Barghouti’s health status.
” “The concern is that after 21 years in jail he will suddenly die and they will say it was because of medical reasons,” Fares said…”
https://www.newarab.com/news/palestinian-prisoner-marwan-barghouti-beaten-clubs
Posted by: bevin | Mar 20 2024 21:01 utc | 25
Headline: Speaker Johnson Mulls Inviting Netanyahu To Address Congress After Schumer’s Blistering Words
sick, sick, sick
Posted by: librul | Mar 20 2024 21:16 utc | 26
Headline: Speaker Johnson Mulls Inviting Netanyahu To Address Congress After Schumer’s Blistering Words
sick, sick, sick
Posted by: librul | Mar 20 2024 21:16 utc | 28
Well it could be amusing watching Bibi and Schumer duke it out in the state propaganda organs here. Bickering in the pro-Izzie camp could be a good thing too.
But yeah, it is sick.
Speaker Johnson does seem to be a quick learner. He may go far.
Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 20 2024 21:43 utc | 27
Librul 1
Thank you for focusing minds on the Israeli foreknowledge and therefore collusion in Oct 7. Israelis have had a year to train their minds to ignore the evidence of Hannibal self-murder and harden their minds to tpe the Likud Party line.
And so have Western politicians. They have all had a year of practising in front of a mirror the Hollywood scripts of devastation at 1200 killed, and a year of practising bloodlust against innocent Palestinians, reinforced by the learned echo-chamber of MI6 officers with plummy voices.
Oscars all round.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 20 2024 22:06 utc | 28
Did you mean Dyke? Netanyahu finds it difficult to remove his eye-shadow make-up or is that Real Count Dracula make-up to make him look more scary?
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 20 2024 22:12 utc | 29
Republicans and Democrats are dividing the aisles by pro-Genocide and very pro-Genocide.
I am voting Jill Stein, Green Party (US) candidate for President.
Posted by: librul | Mar 20 2024 22:13 utc | 30
Liberator
Your truthfulness is amazing.
I am soo sick of being told that there’s a difference between Judaism and Zionism today. It’s not two cheeks of the same bum, it’s a chimaera with a thousand bums, Globalist bums, left bums right bums , EU bums , Muslim bums, Christian bums. How did this creature with a single brain , have so many Zionist bums appended to itself ?
Imagination fails.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 20 2024 22:24 utc | 31
canuck @15
It is indeed good news. I have to look into who voted for and against. Was it along party lines?”
Posted by: AJ | Mar 20 2024 20:00 utc | 17
AJ it looks like the Conservatives voted against, which is the only party that should replace the awful Liberals, however, I can’t support the Conservatives for voting against this sensible motion, I will never vote for Socks or the NDP nor the Greens so I have to start my own party or not vote at all; I am seriously considering the latter.
“Canada to halt arms sales to Israel after non-binding vote in house of commons
Parliamentary motion from New Democratic party passed with support of Liberals, Bloc Québécois and Green party
Leyland Cecco in Toronto
Tue 19 Mar 2024 20.37 GMT
Canada will halt future arms sales to Israel following a non-binding vote in the house of commons. The foreign affairs minister, Mélanie Joly, told the Toronto Star her government would halt future arms shipments. “It is a real thing,” she said on Tuesday.
The decision follows a parliamentary motion, introduced by the New Democratic party (NDP), that called on the governing Liberals to halt future arms exports to Israel. The New Democrats, who are supporting Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s minority government, have expressed frustration with what they see as his failure to do enough to protect civilians in Gaza.
The motion – which passed 204-117 with the support of Liberals, Bloc Québécois and the Green party – also called on Canada to work “towards the establishment of the state of Palestine”.”
“Ban on Canada supplying weapons to Israel is for future contracts. Current contracts are not affected. These can run for multiple years forward. Israel won’t be running out of weapons before Gazans”
Posted by: Hankster | Mar 20 2024 20:17 utc | 20
Good pick-thanks-it did sound too simple.
So just a minor moral victory which means nothing to the suffering civilians in Gaza.
It’s so funny seeing all the jewish people centering themselves in the comments section. 30,000+ civilians have been slaughtered by the jewish state, with the backing of the most jewish American administration with the exception of possibly FDR. Maybe let other people share their ideas and just be quiet, it would make you much less noticeable.
Posted by: Dante | Mar 20 2024 23:14 utc | 34
Eoin Clancy @ 7, Tobias Cole @ 24:
Not surprising that Leo Varadkar resigned as Taoiseach. Jacinda Ardern (New Zealand) and Sanna Marin (Finland) resigned as well, both citing “personal” or “family” issues, or even “burnout”, once voters started turning against their parties in regional and local government elections. Ardern and Marin are creatures of the WEF as well.
It’s as if the WEF never trains its acolytes in what to do if people start resisting policies and turn to other parties just before new elections.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 20 2024 23:31 utc | 35
The United States submits a modified resolution to the UN Security Council calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.
No more info available . This is all every site from Al Mayadeen to X has. Who knows, maybe there’s some legal advice coming in the administration can’t ignore.
Canuk 36 . Yeah I see Zionists (esp sky news) very upset saying Canada are woke leftists, but I believe it has something to do with the ex prime minister Brian Mulroney who just died and was a avid supporter of sanctions against apartheid south africa. Yes back when it was the moral duty of every nation to isolate and shun such behaviour.
Posted by: Hankster | Mar 21 2024 0:20 utc | 36
Bit by bit, mask by mask, the revelations expose the truth of fascist, colonial, ethnocentric supremacism of Zionism. 🙂 Let the loving sunshine be everywhere. United Palestine shall rise and be free. White kites shining angelic love shall be everywhere for everyone. 🙂
Posted by: titmouse | Mar 21 2024 0:54 utc | 37
Could the moderator please remove those contributors who equate Judaism with Zionism?
Posted by: JAB | Mar 20 2024 19:19 utc | 14
Before that, can you please explain the exhortations to Genocide and mass murder in the Halakhah of the Talmud.
Judging by their scriptures it would appear, on paper at least, that Judaism itself, before we even consider it’s Zionist dimensions, is a murderous death cult wrapped in the facade of a religion.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 21 2024 1:03 utc | 38
Bit by bit, mask by mask, the revelations expose the truth of fascist, colonial, ethnocentric supremacism of Zionism. 🙂
Posted by: titmouse | Mar 21 2024 0:54 utc | 40
Bit by bit, I am beginning to think that the line between Judaism and Zionism may not be so clear after all …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 21 2024 1:06 utc | 39
@ Arch Bungle | 42
Inherent to so-called Judaism is the fraudulent notion of the “Chosen People” which establishes the fundamental superiority of one race over all others. Zionists who are mostly atheist embrace the “Chosen” concept… as do religious “Jews”. Not much difference here between the two groups.
Both groups also follow the Talmud which is a book based on Babylonian paganism. Incidentally, Babylonian paganism involved satanic rituals and practices. Hence, the Talmud is the foundation of the Synagogue of Satan.
That is why Christ and Paul referred to Pharisees as devil worshippers. Today’s Jews = Pharisees = Zionists.
Posted by: Liberator | Mar 21 2024 2:28 utc | 40
Could the moderator please remove those contributors who equate Judaism with Zionism?
Posted by: JAB | Mar 20 2024 19:19 utc | 14
I don’t like to use the word “Zionism” because people in the USA don’t know what it means. We hardly ever see the word in the media. However, we do know who Jews are. Blaming “Zionism” for the Palestinian Holocaust is ineffective. Blame Jews and the blame sticks.
Posted by: Chas | Mar 21 2024 2:46 utc | 41
Posted by: suzan | Mar 20 2024 15:46 utc | 4
Thanks for the Mishra piece – great recommendation!
This passage really jumped out at me:
In 1982, shortly before Reagan bluntly ordered Begin to cease his ‘holocaust’ in Lebanon, a young US senator who revered Elie Wiesel as his great teacher met the Israeli prime minister. In Begin’s own stunned account of the meeting, the senator commended the Israeli war effort and boasted that he would have gone further, even if it meant killing women and children. Begin himself was taken aback by the words of the future US president, Joe Biden. ‘No, sir,’ he insisted. ‘According to our values, it is forbidden to hurt women and children, even in war … This is a yardstick of human civilisation, not to hurt civilians.’
Posted by: farm ecologist | Mar 21 2024 3:08 utc | 42
All non-zionist jews are the targets of zionism alongside all Palestinians and all non-zionists in general. That’s why it is incorrect and horribly wrong to simply blame “jews”; it becomes no different than blaming Palestinians for their own genocide, it is obviously wrong.
It doesn’t matter what the content is of some book or scroll, what matters are the choices people make and how they try to live their lives. There is no religion or ideology nor nary any kind of thought that has not in some way been abused as an excuse to do wrong to others.
The vast majority of all humans should be able to grasp this fact from a few sentences just like this.
As many have pointed out in comments in various threads zionism thrives on pretending to represent and protect jews when zionism only uses them as a shield and excuse or as barter and slaves.
One can’t support the jews that are against the genocide and against zionism if one goes around blaming “the jews” for the genocide and everything else “Israel” has done and is doing.
It could easily be that anti-zionist jews are much more likely than anyone else to convince zionist jews to change their view and renounce zionism.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Mar 21 2024 3:27 utc | 43
Could the moderator please remove those contributors who equate Judaism with Zionism?
Posted by: JAB | Mar 20 2024 19:19 utc | 14
“The House on Tuesday approved a resolution that formally declares anti-Zionism as a form of antisemitism. The House voted 311-14 on the legislation.”
That is some feat you are asking of the moderator.
The idea that “semite” might be meant as a racial or linguistic parameter doesn’t pass, because by that criteria it would include Palestinians.
Posted by: Ornot | Mar 21 2024 3:33 utc | 44
Posted by: Liberator | Mar 20 2024 20:18 utc | 21
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 20 2024 22:06 utc | 31
How then do your explain the opposition by Haredi Jews to Israel, both as a concept and as an oppressor of Palestinians?
For instance, people like this Rabbi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDOysDu41Kg
Posted by: Greg | Mar 21 2024 3:55 utc | 45
Sunny Runny Burger 46
No. Political Islam , political Chritianity and Political Judaism, which is Zionism are in reality the inherited rivalries from great empires from the past, thankfully now extinguished, which used ugly means of power control , spying, slavery, warmongering, genocide etc to assert power over other peoples.
So a Jew holding on to Ancient rituals, a Muslim holding onto prison torture, or a Christian holding onto Viking sexual immorality, are ALL clinging onto political strands from culture, in other words Power.
Of course there are different degrees of cultural garbage in different individuals. But a Muslim lightly clinging onto Mughal ethics, a Jew clinging onto racial superiority etc are not doing submission to God.
They’re just reproducing shite from their colonial rubbish dumps.
The degree of individual power addiction differs between individuals. But there is NO place for Jewish supremacy or British supremacy or Mughal supremacy or Persian supremacy of any degree in our world. Your empires are finished.
There’s nothing glamorous or spiritual about empires we’re grounded on Mass Slavery.
Kick it. Be a servant of the Living God who has destroyed your stupid pride, or in the case of Jewish Power, Zionism, is blowing it to.pieces like an active volcano in front of our very eyes.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 21 2024 3:59 utc | 46
How then do your explain the opposition by Haredi Jews to Israel, both as a concept and as an oppressor of Palestinians?
For instance, people like this Rabbi:
Posted by: Greg | Mar 21 2024 3:55 utc | 48
Simple. These “Jews” are speaking from their position as actual, feeling, reasoning “human beings”, not as “Jews”.
(Of course, they will claim their religion supports their position (which, on paper it doesn’t), but as we have seen, Religion can be distorted to any narrative regardless of what is actually written in it’s defining scriptures.)
The “Jews” protesting against the persecution of Palestinians are not drawing from their Jewish identity. Their position is based on a common human identity.
i.e They should not be viewed as “Jews” when supporting the Palestinian position since it is not the identity of “jewishness” which causes them to speak out.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 21 2024 6:03 utc | 47
Giyane it doesn’t seem like you read my comment.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Mar 21 2024 6:04 utc | 48
Lebanese TV reports:
21:22 Al-Qassam Brigades fighters detonate a tunnel breach in an “Israeli” force, resulting in casualties, including fatalities and injuries, in the area of Al-Qarara north of Khan Yunis city: statement
Comment – the various Arab military brigades report a constant stream of such ambushes against IDF. The 3 IDF brigades remaining in Gaza are regulars, not conscripts or weekend warriors. It’s unclear why even these regulars are getting ambushed like noobs.
Posted by: Exile | Mar 21 2024 6:22 utc | 49
put those ports out of service
fyi,
Al Mayadeen English
Iraqi Resistance targets electricity generation station in ‘Tel Aviv’
In the past weeks, the Islamic Resistance in Iraq has intensified its operations against Israeli targets inside occupied Palestinian territory.
The Islamic Resistance in Iraq confirmed that its fighters targeted the electricity generation station in “Tel Aviv” using drones early Thursday.
In a statement, the Iraqi Resistance affirmed its commitment to strike the enemies’ strongholds, as part of the second phase of operations in support of the Palestinian people in Gaza and in response to the Israeli massacres against innocent civilians.
The second phase of the Resistance’s operations includes the enforcement of a blockade on Israeli maritime navigation in the Mediterranean and putting Israeli ports out of service……
On Wednesday, the Resistance said its fighters attacked Ben Gurion Airport deep within the Israeli occupation entity using unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) — the second time in one week……
Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 21 2024 6:24 utc | 51
Why the unlimited patience?
Asks sunny burger
Because Qatar is buying time for isr by pretending there are negociations for the release of hostages which isr would obviously prefer dead. Plus running a 24/7 warporn to test the results of cogn warfare on our already impoverished minds. Plus testing ahead the security for the French Olymp.
Posted by: Minaa | Mar 21 2024 7:56 utc | 52
Habib Battah
@habib_b
American universities are becoming authoritarian regimes: Silence the brightest minds who don’t conform to pro-regime propaganda.
https://twitter.com/habib_b/status/1770510838001979611
Al Jazeera English
@AJEnglish
“To be silent equates to complicity.”
Professor Jairo Fúnez-Flores talks about being suspended from the Texas Tech University for his social media posts on Palestine.
https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1770008558697849187
Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2024 8:39 utc | 53
Maya Sabeh
@maya_sabeh
The West’s actual respect for democracy, free speech and every other nonsense they throw at colored people before invading them, has been absolutely and irrevocably shattered between the Ukraine war and the Gaza genocide.
The mask is off, good. We need a united Global South.
https://twitter.com/maya_sabeh/status/1770555105969844453
BRICS
@BRICSinfo
🇷🇺 🇬🇧 A Russian woman was fired from her job in London, United Kingdom because she voted for Vladimir Putin.
https://twitter.com/BRICSinfo/status/1770504148154278273
Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2024 8:47 utc | 54
Caitlin Johnstone
@caitoz
Survivors of the latest Al-Shifa Hospital raid tell Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor that they witnessed groups of prisoners being escorted by IDF troops into the hospital morgue, hearing gunfire, and then seeing the IDF troops return without the prisoners.
https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1770591500944196041
Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2024 8:57 utc | 55
Muhammad Shehada
@muhammadshehad2
Israel is surgically & methodically assassinating anyone that tries to ensure the safe distribution of aid in Gaza & prevent looting & chaos
In 72 hours, Israel killed 3 top police officials, 24 social workers, & a prominent tribal leader who all worked on securing aid convoys🧵
https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1770499708034613257
Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2024 9:03 utc | 56
Posted by: librul | Mar 20 2024 13:46 utc | 1
Never mind my Jewish “friend”. Of course I wanted to talk about the Hannibal doctrine. But they told me to stop sending messages on Palestine. I am going to follow Duchess and Bob’s advice and make them explain to me why they supported Israel in the first place: they will need to justify apartheid to me.
I honestly never realized the kind gentle facade I’ve known for decades masked a bloodthirsty Zionist. The fact that they’re Jewish only came up once to the point I wasn’t even sure if I remembered correctly. I count(ed) two nominally Jewish people among closest “friends”. The other was lambasting South Africa for the ICJ application saying it was a distraction from government’s piss poor job of running the country!
I don’t doubt it would be hard to get a country back on track within only one generation of a brutal centuries long apartheid regime.
Then I have this other genius Catholic friend who told me stop worrying about genocide in Gaza and spend a weekend at …..a Holocaust museum! They were serious! They were genuinely trying to help me.
I swear people have lost their marbles.
Posted by: pq | Mar 21 2024 9:12 utc | 57
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 21 2024 6:03 utc | 50
Did you watch the video and listen to the Rabbi stating his arguments or are you simply saying what best fits with your predetermined position?
Hundreds of years of Orthodox Haredi interpretation of scripture, displaced under Zionist predominance by ‘modern orthodox Judaism’, and the former is summarily dismissed as the latter coz Arch says so.
You get a lot of stuff right but your attitude is seriously Imperial in its aversion to contention.
Posted by: greg | Mar 21 2024 9:33 utc | 58
The ‘good news’ from Canada discussed earlier in this thread about stopping future arms transfers to Israel is belied by this article from World Socialist Web Site of March 20: “A Political Farce in Parliament: Canada’s House of Commons passes resolution backing Israel’s genocide against the Palestinians.”
@Menz 59, 60
Not only have they executed and detained doctors and patients, aid workers, police, etc. they have just BLOWN UP the specialized surgery building and a pharmaceutical warehouse that had been put in place after Israel attacked Al Shifa hospital the first three times. Not only are they killing people, they are making 100% sure that all injured die as slowly as possible without access to even morphine. They have destroyed the Turkish American hospital completely that was on the “highway” they are trying to construct. 30/36 hospitals are gone. So are most health care centres.
Posted by: bevin | Mar 20 2024 21:01 utc | 27: A couple of days ago I read on resistance channels that Marwan Barghouti has been severely tortured also in early March until his “eyes were bleeding” and denied medical care. There is never a word about 12,000 Palestinian hostages and their torture by Israel.
Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Mar 20 2024 17:19 utc | 7
I agree with Tobias Cole 24. The Varadkar speech to Biden was a nothingburger. He praised the US as a beacon of freedom, liberty and democracy including in defending Ukraine. He said the Irish understand Palestine and then he went on to say they also understand Israel…The second half got way less attention.
@Canuck, Hankster: I agree with Hankster. This is the full text. It calls for Hamas to surrender, basically. The Liberals watered down the NDP motion to make it meaningless and then voted yea. Poilevre nay. Why can’t they just say yes and no ffs.
https://www.ourcommons.ca/documentviewer/en/44-1/house/sitting-290/journals#DOC–12956279
“cease the further authorization and transfer of arms exports to Israel to ensure compliance with Canada’s arms export regime and increase efforts to stop the illegal trade of arms, including to Hamas;”
Current arms sales are being approved on a “case by case basis”.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-maintains-freeze-on-new-arms-export-permits-to-israel-1.6814889
Export permits that were approved before Jan. 8 remain in effect, the office of Foreign Minister Melanie Joly said in an emailed statement. This word salad means Israel gets all the arms it wants from Canada for now at least.
In any case there are several planes a day from the US to Israel with weapons as well as one ship every 3-4 days. I don’t think Israel is running out.
Posted by: pq | Mar 21 2024 9:36 utc | 60
Re.63 Lavieja
WSWS asserts “Having spent days touting their intention to make clear their opposition to Israel’s bloody slaughter, with some NDP MPs even raising the term ‘genocide,’ Canada’s social democrats agreed to such an extensive re-write of their motion that its passage represented a declaration of support for the imperialist-backed genocide in Gaza.”
Re: How to Redpill one‘s friends ?
It takes gentle and patient planting of tiny seeds. At the beginning – the goal is to only to plant a tiny seed of doubt. It takes years for a normie to undo decades of War Party lies.
So go slow and start with simple questions, for example:
Why do we have to build a pier and airdrop food ? Aren‘t there any truck routes ?
Why can‘t the Gaza women and children find safe refuge in Israel ?
Posted by: Exile | Mar 21 2024 10:11 utc | 62
@Lavieja
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/03/20/bydb-m20.html
Thanks. I don’t know what’s worse. Overt Zionists like Poilievre or the wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Posted by: pq | Mar 21 2024 10:14 utc | 63
Vast majority of Israelis abroad say ‘no intention to return
…..A staggering 80 percent of Israelis currently living outside the country say they do not intend to return to Israel, according to a recent survey conducted by the Hebrew University at the initiative of the World Zionist Organization (WZO)…..
https://thecradle.co/articles/vast-majority-of-israelis-abroad-say-no-intention-to-return-poll
Posted by: Exile | Mar 21 2024 10:16 utc | 64
If, as a poster on the Ukraine thread suggests, Russia’s smo in Ukraine will likely develop into a prolonged war with one NATO country after another as US goes on to bolster one after the other NATO proxy, Russia must foresee this, that Ukraine could be only the beginning, and think about the need for wider containment of USNATO in the ME and support Arab countries to stop Israel sooner not later (or never). Especially in Syria, where as another MOA poster has pointed out, Assad under Russian direction has done nothing to ward off Israel bombing and US encroachments. Sacrifice the Palestinians, allow West-backed barbarian Izzy to last, at your peril, world!
Voltairenet
Washington, London and Tel Aviv entangled in Palestine.
Thierry Myessan says that Shin Bet and Mossad’s analysis is that Palestinian Resistance is directly caused by Israeli aggression, so Ukrainian Nutjobs’ plan to destroy Hamas , which he himself embraces as a political tool, would only result in an exact replication of Hamas in another form.
(Better the Saint you know , than the saint you don’t know)
Myessan relishes the tension in London that Palestine is the last outpost of British Empire over which it has any influence.
Oh dear , the Brits support the Khazars trying to use Nazism in Ukraine and Palestine, if they can achieve an easy gain, but if in the face of World opposition to the barbarities of Nazism, they drag Britain into public shame ….
…the clown on the unicycle struggling to juggling two hot Nazi potatoes has already lost one hot potato to Russia, in spite of sanctions and NS2, and is about to lose its other one.
Maybe it’s in the Albert Hall.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 21 2024 10:33 utc | 66
69 Lavieja. “Support Arab countries” — no, rather, Russia, respect Arab Resistance, at the very minimum, especially the groups fighting in Gaza.
I hope so.
Then I have this other genius Catholic friend who told me stop worrying about genocide in Gaza and spend a weekend at …..a Holocaust museum! They were serious! They were genuinely trying to help me.
I swear people have lost their marbles.
@Posted by: pq | Mar 21 2024 9:12 utc | 61
Wow! Just wow!
What do people learn at the Holocaust Museums? — To turn their backs on genocide !!
Wow.
WOW
Posted by: librul | Mar 21 2024 12:59 utc | 68
“Eoin Clancy @ 7, Tobias Cole @ 24:
Not surprising that Leo Varadkar resigned as Taoiseach. Jacinda Ardern (New Zealand) and Sanna Marin (Finland) resigned as well, both citing “personal” or “family” issues, or even “burnout”, once voters started turning against their parties in regional and local government elections. Ardern and Marin are creatures of the WEF as well.
It’s as if the WEF never trains its acolytes in what to do if people start resisting policies and turn to other parties just before new elections.”
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 20 2024 23:31 utc | 38
If only Justin Trudeau, another WEF puppet, would do the same!
Posted by: Exile | Mar 21 2024 10:11 utc | 66
Yes, 10’s of thousands of people are being mercilessly slaughtered. We should be gentle with how and what our friends think about that.
Maybe it’s overdue that we all re-evaluate who our friends are and why.
Posted by: Greg | Mar 21 2024 13:20 utc | 70
The again recently touted on MSM of US draft “ceasefire resolution” circulating the UNSC, the PR of US “desire” for ceasefire is the same resolution since the start.
US desperately needs a UNSC passed resolution that “recognizes” Hamas as a “terrorist organization”. The U.S./UK spouting this is not legally or otherwise “actionable”.
The U.S. is exercising immense international pressure to pass this resolution, especially now b4 Rafah operation.
The U.S. is presenting this globally as their effort for a ceasefire, when it’s guised to legally relieve Israel of all crimes & genocide as “defending” themselves against “terrorist”. People have to understand that even though this is the mantra of Israel since day one, it has no legal or “actionable” standing internationally.
The result will continue that China, first and foremost will never allow the resolution through.
Currently, it’s not even off the “draft circulations” calendar.
And most likely will not have enough support to make it to the UNSC for an official vote.
US getting desperate for legal cover. US getting desperate for international support as more and more nations are getting on board with isolation of Israel.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 21 2024 13:22 utc | 71
“Lebanese TV reports:
21:22 Al-Qassam Brigades fighters detonate a tunnel breach in an “Israeli” force, resulting in casualties, including fatalities and injuries, in the area of Al-Qarara north of Khan Yunis city: statement
Comment – the various Arab military brigades report a constant stream of such ambushes against IDF. The 3 IDF brigades remaining in Gaza are regulars, not conscripts or weekend warriors. It’s unclear why even these regulars are getting ambushed like noobs.”
Posted by: Exile | Mar 21 2024 6:22 utc | 52
I think the reason the regulars are getting pummeled is because the idiotic IDF leaders bombed the shit out of Gaza in a shock and awe moment and with murderous intent yet, paradoxically , the idiots helped Hamas as the rubble is great for the defenders dreadful for the attackers.
I am not a military expert [no kidding, editor] maybe someone has a better idea why this is occuring?
“The U.S. is exercising immense international pressure to pass this resolution, especially now b4 Rafah operation.
The U.S. is presenting this globally as their effort for a ceasefire, when it’s guised to legally relieve Israel of all crimes & genocide as “defending” themselves against “terrorist”. People have to understand that even though this is the mantra of Israel since day one, it has no legal or “actionable” standing internationally.
The result will continue that China, first and foremost will never allow the resolution through.
Currently, it’s not even off the “draft circulations” calendar.
And most likely will not have enough support to make it to the UNSC for an official vote.
US getting desperate for legal cover. US getting desperate for international support as more and more nations are getting on board with isolation of Israel.”
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 21 2024 13:22 utc | 76
Superb analysis, thanks.
Vast majority of Israelis abroad say ‘no intention to return
…..A staggering 80 percent of Israelis currently living outside the country say they do not intend to return to Israel, according to a recent survey conducted by the Hebrew University at the initiative of the World Zionist Organization (WZO)…..
https://thecradle.co/articles/vast-majority-of-israelis-abroad-say-no-intention-to-return-poll“
Posted by: Exile | Mar 21 2024 10:16 utc | 68
Kissinger prophesized in 2010 (?), “in a column published by the New York Post on September 17, Cindy Adams wrote: “Reported to me, Henry Kissinger has stated and I quote the statement word for word: ‘In 10 years, there will be no more Israel.'”
I thought he was off his rocker-now he is a true Prophet- there will be no more Israel in 3 to five years as they immolate all the sympathy they enjoyed from the Holocaust.
“ put those ports out of service”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 21 2024 6:24 utc | 54
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It has been reported —> the izzies just purchased port facilities in Larnaca, Cypress. Another nato entity aiding and abetting land theft and genocide. Imperialism it is.
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Israel aiming to attack Lebanon
15 MARCH 2024
…Since the beginning of Operation Swards of Iron, the IDF launched air strikes against 4,500 targets, mostly located in the South, but also in Baalbeck, while sparing the other sectors of Lebanese society. The Netanyahu government hopes that the country’s social rifts will gradually lead to the erosion of the Party of God’s support base, without provoking a conspicuous reaction. It claims to have already eliminated 300 Shiite fighters, while Hezbollah acknowledges 244.
IDF Unit 8200 intercepts all Lebanese telephone and internet communications as well as almost all private security cameras. By cross-checking the information, it manages to pinpoint almost all of its human and physical targets. For example, this is how Hamas leader Saleh Al-Arouri, opposed to the Muslim Brotherhood, was located and assassinated, in January, in a Beirut subsurb (see 0001).
Israel is gearing up for a major response from Hezbollah. It has just purchased port facilities in Larnaca (Cyprus) in anticipation of the Haifa port destruction [1]. These facilities will, in any case, subsequently be used to establish the transport corridor linking India to Europe, via Israel.[1] מחשש לשיתוק נמל חיפה : ישראל תקים נמל, Israel Hayom, 11 March 2024.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article220576.html
Posted by: suzan | Mar 21 2024 14:37 utc | 75
Israel is getting ready to finish the destruction of al Shifa Hospital. They have ordered everyone in the buildings to surrender – as though they were all enemy fighters – and/or evacuate. Although they take pains to point out they don’t want anyone to just exit the hospital or they will be shot by the IDF. These are is the kind of conflicting orders the IDF has been issuing to the Palestinians all along. Then they claim that the Palestinians did not follow the directions properly.
No-one has been able to contact the medical staff inside the hospital in some time. This is day four of bombing just this one site. And it is a HOSPITAL.
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Israeli forces have destroyed the main surgical building at Gaza City’s al-Shifa Hospital, following four days of siege.
The building was blown up on Thursday, as Israel tightened its siege of Gaza’s largest medical complex. Israeli forces ordered people trapped inside to evacuate before they target the entire facility, according to a Middle East Eye correspondent.
Thousands of Palestinians displaced from their homes by the ongoing war have been seeking refuge in the hospital.
Early on Thursday morning, Israeli forces warned them that the air force would soon begin bombing the complex, and that they should surrender themselves.
“We warned you, we warned you, we warned you,” an Israeli soldier could be heard saying on a loudspeaker. “Do not make a mistake, do not try us.”
“If you leave the building [without the army’s orders], the soldiers will shoot at you.”
A video from the hospital shows women and children scrambling to leave, awaiting the army’s next orders, as the men were reportedly taken away by the soldiers.
Israeli forces have also blown up several homes in the vicinity of al-Shifa, according to Al Jazeera.
The Israeli army said it had killed 140 Palestinians since the start of its raid on the hospital in the early hours of Monday, including 50 over the past day, claiming they were all fighters. Hamas denies having any fighters inside the hospital.
Confrontations between the Israeli army and Hamas fighters were reported outside the hospital, with Hamas’s political chief, Ismail Haniyeh, accusing Israel of “sabotaging” ongoing truce talks in Qatar with its raid.
While accompanying the army in the hospital on Wednesday, Israeli army chief of staff, Herzi Halevi, admitted that the operation seeks to put pressure on the truce negotiations.
“In our operation here, we are serving two goals – hurting Hamas’s leadership and putting pressure on the [hostage release] negotiations,” he said.
Journalists on the ground said they had lost all communications with medical staff inside the hospital.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-gaza-war-al-shifa-hospital-building-destroyed
Posted by: teri | Mar 21 2024 14:52 utc | 76
RE: Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 21 2024 13:22 utc | 76
In reference to earlier post noted above, according to Al Jazerra, who believes they have the “latest” US draft proposal for ceasefire (who also say document is fluid and changing as passed around), the purported draft resolution “language-wise” doesn’t even call for a ceasefire:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/21/with-record-of-gaza-truce-vetoes-us-unveils-new-ambiguous-un-resolution
Article Highlights:
1) “development “sounds very important”, the “exact language” of the resolution is crucial, adding that what the US was actually demanding was ambiguous.”
2)**“The language of other resolutions that the US has vetoed have demanded a ceasefire. This one uses the words, **‘determines the imperative’, so it says it is important that there is a ceasefire. It is not really demanding one now,” he added.”
3)“My suspicion is that what the US is trying to do is have this resolution ready while the talks continue in Doha – the idea being that you get some sort of deal in Doha for a ceasefire and a release of the captives, and then you pass this resolution in the Security Council. That, I think, is the timing but we’ll need more clarity.”
I disagree with #3. They have failed entirely at “negotiations”, and absolutely know that there will be none forthcoming. Thus, looking for a UNSC resolution to release all hostages (think was in ICJ parting/closing order as well, but heck, since Israel took no “preventive” genocide measures, no reason for Hamas to obey the order either).
I’ve no doubt in the resolution the “preamble” that “Hamas is a terrorist organization that attacked Israel on Oct. 7, unprovoked,”…
blah blah.
I went to the UN site for a view of the current text, since Al Jazerra has it, but I haven’t been able to find it.
Even if US has manage to bribe, threaten or pay off 9 other nations to bring the resolution vote forward, which if this is the form, not likely, but still, even if they manage to get a “official” resolution to vote on, either Russia or China wold veto and the other abstain, as a tag team,– like US and UK did.
The current draft resolution looks like it says only 2 things:
1) Give Israel ALL the hostages back (so that Netanyahu can get those dang Israeli families off his back).
2) Hamas is a terrorist organization. (guessing in there still as only reason for previous vetoes is that was not included. They need a UNSC recognized “blame”.)
I’d just like to see this draft text. If anyone has access or comes across it somewhere and could link it, I’d be grateful.
I don’t know why, it’s toilet paper anyways.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 21 2024 15:09 utc | 77
Posted by: Liberator | Mar 20 2024 20:18 utc | 21
“The Talmud provided the philosophical foundation for the zionist propaganda narrative that insisted that Nazism [was a] racial superiority cult…”
fify
references: see, for example, How the Jews Defeated Hitler, by Benjamin Ginsberg, that details how Jews in USA created the propaganda vilifying Germany and Hitler, beginning well before Hitler came to power.
and
Those Angry Days, by Lynne Olson, opens with report on FDR’s intention and efforts to destroy Charles Lindbergh; discusses the extensive activities of the British, operating from New York and Canada, to foment war-fever among Americans who were otherwise averse to war
inter alia
Posted by: ChasMark | Mar 21 2024 15:27 utc | 78
ChasMark | Mar 21 2024 15:27 utc | 84
It is unclear to me what you are trying to establish.
Are you arguing that the Nazis got the idea of racial superiority from the Talmud? That seems most unlikely- the racial theories that the Nazis adopted had a long pedigree in both European and Creole American culture. The Nazis acknowledged this.
That the British did all within their power to reverse the US policy of neutrality during the war is absolutely true. Does it surprise you?
As to the role of Jews in countering Nazi anti-semitic propaganda, that too is both true and unremarkable.
The idea that the United States defeated Nazi Germany is a peculiar one. It certainly did not use its power to favour Germany, although it is very likely that US investments were taken into account when bombing targers were being discussed, and, as in the First War, took advantage of the difficulties facing the British to make lots of money for both industrialists and financiers.
It is often forgotten that the Manhattan Project was built on the base of Tube Alloys and involved considerable investment from Britain and Canada, inter alia.
The bulk of the war effort was borne by the Soviet Union, fighting for its existence with weapons largely of its own manufacture. Allied strategy was shaped by the British Empire’s geostrategic hold on the middle east, the subcontinent (the Indian Army was enormous, efficient and omnipresent as well as being a counterweight to the Japanese Forces)and Australasia.
This is not to diminish the US role in the European War- there were, after all, five D Day beaches in Normandy and two of them were assigned to the US forces.
Posted by: bevin | Mar 21 2024 16:53 utc | 79
Stephanie Guilloud connects the dots in this excellent and far from short article at Mondoweiss:
“The Israeli and U.S.-funded genocide of Palestinians has catalyzed a moment of global reckoning. This moment is an echo of 2020 when the racial justice uprisings following George Floyd’s murder offered a moment of reckoning in the United States.
“The horror that Palestinians are enduring is beyond comprehension. As the world witnesses the genocide in Gaza unfolding in real-time on social media, many of us who are watching are saying – there is no coming back from this. The experiment of the Israeli state is over. Israel is showing the world that Zionism is an undistilled form of Western imperialism that requires this level of slaughter to maintain itself.
“Police murdering Black people with impunity was not new or unique within the U.S., nor is Israel’s intentional destruction and ethnic cleansing new or unique to Palestine. Genocide is fundamental to how the West holds power, and the brutal strategy is repeated, seen and unseen all over the world….
“…Civil society is splitting along lines made more explicit by Israel’s genocidal war. In North Ireland, Palestinian flags are still flying in Catholic neighborhoods, and Israeli flags fly beside the British as signs of clear allegiance – occupied standing with occupied, occupier with occupier. In the U.S. South, we see good old boys flying the Israeli and Confederate flags side by side on their trucks, making a clear connection between white supremacy and Zionism. …”
https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/there-is-nothing-we-can-do-about-israel-other-than-everything/
Posted by: bevin | Mar 21 2024 17:20 utc | 80
Gaza: The End of the Jewish Joy Ride? by Michael Lesher:
https://off-guardian.org/2024/03/21/gaza-the-end-of-the-jewish-joy-ride/
Posted by: Vortex | Mar 21 2024 19:24 utc | 81
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 21 2024 15:09 utc | 83
The ICJ provisional order document: the only clear order it made in plain English was that Hamas should release the POWs. It wasn’t part of the provisional orders themselves, which were directed at Israel, but it was just thrown in there for no reason.
It had nothing to do with the case.
Not to mention that the document starts with Hamas attacks of Oct 7, which again, had nothing to do with the case.
The UN draft resolutions are usually not available on the site, probably because they’re constantly being changed. After the resolution has been passed or not passed, it takes them a good many days to put it up.
Posted by: Pq | Mar 21 2024 19:36 utc | 82
https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/whatsinblue
Here you can sometimes find drafts, not the full text but a summary. I don’t see the current Gaza one.
If there’s a lot of arguing going on, the lower the likelihood of it being there.
Posted by: Pq | Mar 21 2024 19:40 utc | 83
The Zionists/Israelis are truly some nasty, awful people.
Thing is, they’re wide open about it. Julian Assange rots in jail for taking great risks to expose things like the “collateral murder” video, while Israel proudly publishes similar videos like this one in which 4 Palestinian men and boys, clearly unarmed, attempt to return to their bombed out home and retrieve items and look for food/water.
Trigger warning, this is evil disturbing content.
https://twitter.com/RamAbdu/status/1770895103785046489
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 21 2024 20:01 utc | 84
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 21 2024 20:01 utc | 90
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Tom, I suspect Julian Assange rot in jail today (in large part) because he exposed and embarrassed then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for using the CIA to wiretap high state officials like Angela Merkel.
Posted by: Ed | Mar 21 2024 21:48 utc | 85
RE:” The UN draft resolutions are usually not available on the site, probably because they’re constantly being changed. After the resolution has been passed or not passed, it takes them a good many days to put it up. “
Posted by: Pq | Mar 21 2024 19:36 utc | 88
Agreed. This is the latest, which confirms Al Jazeera:” This one uses the words, **‘determines the imperative’, so it says it is important that there is a ceasefire. It is not really demanding one now,” he added.”
From TASS:
https://tass.com/politics/1763441
“One should not fall for Washington’s wishful thinking – the United States is still not interested in a real ceasefire and is doing all it can not to prevent its closest Middle Eastern ally from sorting things out with the Palestinians,” he wrote on his Telegram channel.”
****The Russian diplomat added that “there was and is no call for a ceasefire in it,” but “it actually gives the green light to Israel’s military operation in Rafah.”*****
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 21 2024 21:57 utc | 86
When Lavrov is reported in Tass as saying that the West is breaking all the principles of international trade established after WW2, he maybe means that the West is now powerless against Global Capitalism, one part of which us the MIC.
So when Global Capitalism wants more war, because war is good for profits, Global Capitalism’s influence is what prevents a Palestiniam Ceasefire, and wants a massive War in West Asia.
I’m not saying Mr Lavrov is unaware of supra national power dictating USUKIS policy, just that he didn’t mention it in the article.
We all think of our politicians as grifters and paedophiles, when in fact the reality may be that politicians do not actually run anything any more.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 21 2024 22:55 utc | 87
Tom, I suspect Julian Assange rot in jail today (in large part) because he exposed and embarrassed then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for using the CIA to wiretap high state officials like Angela Merkel.
Posted by: Ed | Mar 21 2024 21:48 utc | 91
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Correction, it was the NSA that tapped Angela Merkel’s phone.
Posted by: Ed | Mar 21 2024 23:46 utc | 88
This is what Liberator wrote in comment #21:
“The Talmud provided the philosophical foundation for the Nazi racial superiority cult…”
That statement is baseless and ludicrous.
Ahnenerbe did not explore Talmud.
Wagner was not inspired by Talmud.
Nordic myths were not Talmud-centric.
German nationalism was a celebration of German history, culture and mythology.
Moreover, Jewish attacks on German and German National Socialism, in propaganda terms as well as in physical terms similar to what Jews are carrying on in Gaza — siege warfare including starvation of civilians — began even before Hitler assumed the chancellorship in Jan. 1933.
Jewish, British and FDR’s propaganda machines were in high gear well before Goebbels’s first set of poster were glued to German shopfronts. Jewish and Allied propaganda were far more potent and omnipresent that anything Germany produced: Cora Sol Goldstein wrote that Hollywood studios, especially Warner Brothers, became effective employees of FDR’s administration in producing anti-German movies, and the inexhaustible Rabbi Stephen Wise’s son had an anti-German diatribe titled Swastika ready for publication by May 1933, but it was not until 1935 that Riefenstahl produced Triumph of the Will. (Triumph was so classy that FDR’s propagandists despaired of matching it; Jewish Communists Julius J. Epstein and Philip G. Epstein wrote the screenplay that Capra turned into rather the clunky Why We Fight series. Jewish criminal gangs led by Meyer Lansky ensured that no German-American rally or speech was able to organize and be heard.
All of the above is why I corrected Liberator’s comment to reflect the reality:
“The Talmud provided the philosophical foundation for the zionist propaganda narrative that insisted that Nazism [was a] racial superiority cult…”
The clue is in the bolded phrase: most of what Americans think they know about “the philosophical foundation” of Nazism has been force-fed to them by the same forces that created the propaganda in the first instance.
Jewish and British + FDR-sanctioned propaganda
Posted by: ChasMark | Mar 22 2024 0:33 utc | 89
UNSC interesting twist:
https://tass.com/world/1763573
1) Shows US resolution that is up for vote Friday morning.
2) Shows alternative 10 member resolution up for vote if US doesn’t pass.
Guessing Chin or Russia will veto #1
Guessing US-UK will veto #2
Interesting indeed.
Too complicated to just put highlighted excerpts.
Recommend reading article.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 22 2024 2:13 utc | 90
Let’s pray and hope the ~10,000 Arsb hostages held by the Likud government are all released asap.
Posted by: Exile | Mar 22 2024 4:10 utc | 91
ChasMark 95
The philosophical basis for German Nazism was that the truth of
the Gospels translated to ordinary speech in the Reformation had given far too much power to the lower classes and the philosophical basis for Today’s Ukrainian origin, revisionist Zionists is that the truth of Islam is swamping out the ancient lies of the Christian Western elites.
It’s an unfortunate fact that truth dispels darkness and darkness fights back. But in fighting back it knly makes the light of truth shine brighter against the darkness.
The Western institutions of oppression like UN and Nato are exposed as malevolent , desperate agencies of repression as never before. Kaida shaytana dha’eefa/
The devil’s plan is weak.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 22 2024 5:33 utc | 92
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 22 2024 2:13 utc | 96
Thanks.
Both versions only call for the release of the Israeli POWs and not the Palestinian ones. That was the point of Al Aqsa Flood in the first place.
On UNSC there are only Algeria and Mozambique who are 100% on the Palestinian side. So their power is limited. Like when the UAE was scurrying around like crazy in 2023 only to have all their drafts rejected.
Lavrov who compared Israel’s fight to Ukrainian denazification in December last year (aka Palestinian resistance =Nazi) is a forked tongue Zionist stooge. It’s possible that now the elections are over Russia may be more supportive of Palestine but I doubt it. They mostly use Palestine as a battering ram against the US.
Israel blew up the only remaining surgery facility in North Gaza, executed dozens, destroyed all the TV equipment, beat up and tortured hundreds including journalists and doctors….and all the world can talk about is Israeli POWs.
I have a Russian friend who mostly watches Russian news and just a day ago asked me: “so what’s going on in Gaza? It’s never in the news.” This happened several times over the last few months.
I am sure the attacks in Belgorod take precedence of course as does the SMO but on further questioning I understood that the full horror of Gaza has disappeared fromRussian MSM.
I’m not holding my breath on the UNSC. Like the comatose ICJ.
Posted by: Pq | Mar 22 2024 5:52 utc | 93
Canuck 79. Of course a staffer denies kissinger said that, and its left to the new york post gossip columnist to take that story, convenient . But he was directly quoted as saying he would be antisemetic if he wasn’t Jewish born.
Posted by: Hankster | Mar 22 2024 9:25 utc | 94
pq 99
The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. Same would appear for bankers and banks.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 22 2024 9:29 utc | 95
“Did you know JFK was about to force AIPAC to register as a foreign agent in 1963?
And then, that November, right as it was about to happen he magically got pew pewd
and to this day AIPAC openly brags about how it buys our politicians on behalf of Israel because that’s “good for democracy””
https://twitter.com/cancelcloco/status/1770858835831365655?s=46&t=z7S-uN3flOn-qrtEr-qf1g
Posted by: Matt | Mar 22 2024 10:02 utc | 96
Sputnik
The World Sees Gaza as ‘US Genocide’ Not Just Israel’s
“On Tuesday, four critical care doctors who recently returned from Gaza spoke to the UN. “I saw the most appalling atrocities, and I saw things I never would have expected to have seen in any healthcare setting,” Dr. Nick Maynard said, adding that he saw “mass indiscriminate bombing” and targeting of healthcare workers.
Americans do not understand how badly the United States’ reputation has been damaged across the world, which sees Gaza as “a US genocide” and “not just an Israeli genocide,” Mohammad Marandi, a professor of English literature and Orientalism at the University of Tehran told Sputnik’s The Critical Hour on Thursday.
“It’s revealing the reality of [the US] empire in a way that not even [author of ‘A People’s History of the United States, Howard Zinn] could do because it’s being done in front of our eyes, it’s being done in front of a global audience. We’ve never seen such a thing before,” Marandi said, adding that he suspects that is why the US is attempting to ban TikTok.
The United States has lost credibility across the world. I don’t think many Americans understand how bad this has become for the United States. People across the world see this as a US genocide, it’s not just an Israeli genocide.”
Co-host Wilmer Leon asked about a recent freeze on Canadian arms shipments to Israel, which Marandi said showed that “public opinion is shifting” but that ultimately “stopping Canadian exports of weapons is nothing.” Marandi said Canada needs to take a much tougher approach.
“They sanctioned Syria… they’ve imposed sanctions on Cuba, on Venezuela, on Iran, on Yemen. Why don’t they impose sanctions on Israel? They’re carrying out a holocaust. Why don’t they hit the economy?” Marandi asked, noting that Israel will, unlike Russia, be allowed to participate in the Olympics. “No one takes this seriously. And, of course, the bulk of the weapons come from the United States anyway.”
“In any case, there is no reason to believe that the Canadian government cares about Palestinians, that they oppose the genocide because they’ve done absolutely nothing to stop it,” Marandi added.
Ultimately, Marandi believes that Israel has laid the path for its destruction through its actions in Gaza. “I believe that the Israelis have made a fatal mistake and that what they’ve done in Gaza will be the beginning of the end of the Zionist project,” he asserted. “The real catastrophe for the Israeli regime is the fact that it’s been carrying out the genocide for almost six months in front of the world and it has demolished the facade that the regime had created for itself… about it being a ‘democracy’… All that is gone now and across the board the regime is despised and the image of the United States has been destroyed.”
Marandi noted that he has been to China twice and public opinion there has shifted as well. He noted that he does not think China will ever invest in Israel again.
“They see on their own social media networks what you and I are seeing,” he noted.”
Posted by: MD | Mar 22 2024 11:03 utc | 97
Posted by: todd | Mar 20 2024 13:13 utc | 169
Most of what we see the West doing is – one could argue – masterminded and controlled by a small zionist gang which happens to own the Bank of England. Among the supporters of that theory are some barflies, including todd. In his usual wordsalad style without interpunction and capitalisation, he nevertheless referred to my question list, where I asked for the way how the Bank of England “own” and control us:
…explain how the world works
how all are in lockstep…
Everybody being in lockstep on the same, self destructing path – isn’t that what we are currently witnessing on a grand scale? Baerbock, Macron, Netanyahu, the corporate media, the US senate, congress and government. Who does really issue the orders, and how do they get communicated and enforced – these are things I want to know in detail, and so does, obviously, todd. What facts are available to him, he has posted on a recent thread, including:
– Former British PM Liz Truss reporting on what she found during her short stay in number 10
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/03/palestine-open-thread-2024-082.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3aa0be2200c#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3aa0be2200c
– a list of owners of the Bank of England, and an extensive list of well known US entities who listen to its commands.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/03/palestine-open-thread-2024-082.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3aa1545200c#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3aa1545200c
If the links don’t fully work you may have to manually navigate to posts 86 and 115, respectively.
Posted by: grunzt | Mar 22 2024 11:59 utc | 98
@Posted by: grunzt | Mar 22 2024 11:59 utc | 104
Additions to your links:
State Secret: co-opertation agreement between British military and Israeli military
https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2021-05-19/4041/
Sunak takes British support for Israel to new extreme
https://www.declassifieduk.org/sunak-takes-british-support-for-israel-to-new-extreme/
The UK has a huge air base at RAF Akrotiri on Cyprus, 230 miles from Gaza.
https://www.declassifieduk.org/the-icc-must-investigate-british-ministers-for-gaza-war-crimes-heres-how/
Posted by: librul | Mar 22 2024 12:27 utc | 99
Now you have seen the utter depths of depravity that the Jews are capable of, shall I be the first to suggest that Hitler was right to want them out of Germany? The Final Solution incidentally was relocation, not extermination.
Posted by: JimCrint | Mar 22 2024 13:11 utc | 100