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March 17, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-082
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Does anyone have any estimates about when Palestinians are going to die from starvation? I know some children have starved to death recently, but I haven’t seen any forecasts for the population in general. Posted by: team10tim | Mar 17 2024 14:48 utc | 1 team10tim@1…. they’ll be relieved, especially in the Ukraine….. it’ll free up bombs to kill more Russians….and round and round we go! Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 17 2024 14:57 utc | 2 team10tim @1 Posted by: AJ | Mar 17 2024 15:16 utc | 3 Posted by: team10tim | Mar 17 2024 14:48 utc | 1
Since you’re asking, my guess is that the West will respond by denouncing it harshly and then putting a stop to it by forcing the Israelis to cease their attacks in order to provide humanitarian help. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 17 2024 15:26 utc | 4 Does anyone have any estimates about when Palestinians are going to die from starvation? Posted by: pq | Mar 17 2024 15:30 utc | 5 team10tim @1 Posted by: AJ | Mar 17 2024 15:32 utc | 6 “The old adage is: one can go without air for 3 minutes, water for 3 days, food for 3 weeks…” Al-Qassem Daily SitRep Posted by: Exile | Mar 17 2024 16:12 utc | 8 A lot of Irish are coming out against Genocide Joe Biden this Saint Patrick’s day*. Looks like he is doomed politically, and along with that support of Israel. This whole war/genocide thing is likely to collapse here soon. Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Mar 17 2024 16:21 utc | 9 Prominent writers boycott PEN World Voices Festival over Gaza Posted by: Exile | Mar 17 2024 16:21 utc | 10 Re: death from starvation Posted by: Exile | Mar 17 2024 17:32 utc | 11 “No international pressure will stop us from realising all of the goals of the war” said Netanyahu. Posted by: phenon | Mar 17 2024 17:42 utc | 12 “To our friends in the international community, I say: is your memory so short? So quickly you forgot about October 7, the worst massacre committed against Jews since the Holocaust? So quickly you are ready to deny Israel the right to defend itself against the monsters of Hamas?” Posted by: phenon | Mar 17 2024 17:54 utc | 13 As they roll, IOF persistently forges new frontiers of depravity, amid Gaza’s ruins:
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 17 2024 17:58 utc | 14 Caitlin Johnstone really has it right as she writes in her article:
If Netanyahu goes then the slaughter of Palestinians can go down the memory hole.
Posted by: librul | Mar 17 2024 18:35 utc | 15 Re: “The worst massacre of Jews since 1945 “? Posted by: Exile | Mar 17 2024 18:52 utc | 16 Brief military analysis – based on fighting in the North of Gaza. Posted by: Exile | Mar 17 2024 18:54 utc | 17 A large avalanche of cash is flowing into Egypt recently – Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 17 2024 19:00 utc | 18 ‘Then Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the people of Israel, and all their transgressions, all their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and sending it away into the wilderness by means of someone designated for the task. The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to a barren region; and the goat shall be set free in the wilderness.’ Posted by: phenon | Mar 17 2024 19:04 utc | 19 Follow up, any guesses on the how the west will respond … Posted by: Ornot | Mar 17 2024 19:09 utc | 20 This is well worth reading … Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 17 2024 19:13 utc | 21 Posted by: phenon | Mar 17 2024 17:54 utc | 11 Posted by: ryanggg | Mar 17 2024 19:48 utc | 22 It started. Yemen can now hit ships in the Indian Ocean and as far as the Horn of Africa. This virtually shuts down shipping to Israel, and will heavily impact the US and UK. Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 17 2024 20:20 utc | 23 Don Firineach 19 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 17 2024 20:20 utc | 24 22 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 17 2024 20:32 utc | 25 Reading the last Palestine thread convinced me that American contributors on this blog still believe in their hearts that although killing Muslims is despicable and wrong , the US is sent to rectify the errors of the Muslims and the errors of the Communists. Posted by: Jane | Mar 17 2024 20:57 utc | 26 Depends on the fat storage of the people. Once you get into ketogenic fat burning mode you actually can last quite long (months, world records for several morbidly obese fasters was over a year). It’s something the human body has adapted to, going a whole season or two off of one’s fat reserves, in its migrations around an Ice Age planet. Posted by: titmouse | Mar 17 2024 21:20 utc | 27 1….I suspect some buried alive by the bombing have already died of starvation Posted by: Jo | Mar 17 2024 21:30 utc | 28 Muhammad bin Salman is pained, possibly because it threatens his country’s Normalisation with Israel. Posted by: pq | Mar 17 2024 21:54 utc | 29 I have noticed the 30,000 dead has been the current number for a long time. This one number brings back memories of the Bush II Iraq War. He picked a number out of the air that would be acceptable. I think a lot more Iraqis died than that. Likewise, Gaza fatalities of 30,000 makes no sense to me. Posted by: DG | Mar 17 2024 22:09 utc | 31 Jane 24 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 17 2024 22:25 utc | 32 In addition to the Scheerpost article shared above by Aleph_Null, I present this one. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 17 2024 22:26 utc | 33 Who has ever made money from dealing with Israel? Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 17 2024 22:43 utc | 34 Israel is not a banana republic but an independent and proud democracy that elected Prime Minister Netanyahu,” the ruling Likud Party said in a statement. Posted by: Hankster | Mar 17 2024 23:09 utc | 35 Posted by: pq | Mar 17 2024 21:54 utc | 27 Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 17 2024 23:17 utc | 36 fyi, Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 17 2024 23:34 utc | 37 @ Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 17 2024 22:26 utc | 31 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 18 2024 0:06 utc | 38 Ornot | Mar 17 2024 19:09 utc | 18 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 18 2024 0:43 utc | 40 Philip Weiss has great news for anti-Zionists, reading the tea-leaves after Schumer’s complaint:
https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/weekly-briefing-now-everyone-hates-israel/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 18 2024 0:49 utc | 41
Exactly. Besides which, Saudi and others have had unofficial deals with Israel, formal normalisation with a piece of paper seems to mostly benefit USUKIS interests. At best it might theoretically reduce the risk of regional war by Israel in the future, but Israel has never paid much attention to pieces of paper. Posted by: Rain | Mar 18 2024 0:54 utc | 42 Israel is victorious!!! Posted by: Ed | Mar 18 2024 0:54 utc | 43 I speak as a Muslim. . . . Posted by: Jane | Mar 18 2024 0:59 utc | 44 Jane 42 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 18 2024 1:33 utc | 46 fyi Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 18 2024 1:36 utc | 47 An awful long time has passed for the Jews who rejected the Mesdiah pbuh in spite of the miracles he was given by God. Posted by: Ed | Mar 18 2024 1:40 utc | 48 Giyane 44 Posted by: Jane | Mar 18 2024 1:43 utc | 49 …..this thread by Elijah M. – and a first hand account: Posted by: Exile | Mar 18 2024 2:02 utc | 51 Rain | Mar 18 2024 0:54 utc | 40 Posted by: Thunder | Mar 18 2024 2:04 utc | 52 Tom_Q_Collins 32 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 18 2024 2:19 utc | 53 what the h— does rtlw mean? for christ sake, some of us are just common citizens. Posted by: DAVID AMBROSE GLISIN | Mar 18 2024 2:20 utc | 54 Ed 45 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 18 2024 2:39 utc | 55 David G Horseman@21….the Yemenis have been hitting Occupied Palestine with ballistic missiles for a while, like Richard says, the Yemenis have a score to settle with UKUS, this just gives them the excuse to do it openly. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 18 2024 2:44 utc | 56 The Saudis and other Muslim countries who have worked with and been guided by USUK for a long time, unfortunately share USUK elites fascist ideologies and are therefore unable to do anything but admire Israel’s genocide. Posted by: Giyane | Mar 18 2024 3:36 utc | 57 Israel had Hamas’ Oct 7th plan in detail for over a year. Posted by: librul | Mar 18 2024 3:54 utc | 58 Posted by: Conqueror of PLSTN | Mar 18 2024 0:34 utc | 37 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 18 2024 4:44 utc | 60 Reading comprehension problem?
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/02/1210076717/everybody-got-it-wrong-how-did-israel-fail-to-detect-hamas-planned-invasion Posted by: librul | Mar 18 2024 4:45 utc | 61 Posted by: Rain | Mar 18 2024 0:54 utc | 40: Posted by: Pq | Mar 18 2024 6:11 utc | 62 Counted dead: 31,645 Posted by: Pq | Mar 18 2024 6:30 utc | 63 Hamas already defeated the IDF months ago. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 18 2024 6:44 utc | 64 PQ – the 16.Feb ICJ statement regarding provisional measures being ignored ( ie: stop killing people ) should be more than enough for the international community to implement the full panoply of sanctions. Posted by: Exile | Mar 18 2024 6:49 utc | 65 I could be wrong but today’s attack on Al Shifa (the fourth) could be yet another pathetic Israeli revenge action for Al Qassam having tracked and followed and then killed Yitzhar Hoffmsn, the commander who led the November Al Sfiga Attack. Posted by: Pq | Mar 18 2024 6:51 utc | 66 Posted by: Ed | Mar 18 2024 1:40 utc | 45 Posted by: greg | Mar 18 2024 7:19 utc | 67 Arya – آریا 🇮🇷 Posted by: Menz | Mar 18 2024 7:28 utc | 68 Arya – آریا 🇮🇷 Posted by: Menz | Mar 18 2024 7:30 utc | 69 AJ+ Posted by: Menz | Mar 18 2024 7:32 utc | 70 UK refuses to say if Israeli bomber planes are using its Cyprus base Posted by: Menz | Mar 18 2024 7:37 utc | 71 S.L. Kanthan Posted by: Menz | Mar 18 2024 7:43 utc | 72 Khalissee Posted by: Menz | Mar 18 2024 7:54 utc | 73 Arya – آریا 🇮🇷 Posted by: Menz | Mar 18 2024 8:00 utc | 74 Translation: Posted by: Menz | Mar 18 2024 8:02 utc | 75 Some excerpts from a Guardian article on the latest Israeli bombing of al Shifa hospital in Gaza City today (ongoing): Posted by: teri | Mar 18 2024 8:20 utc | 76 Re: Sniping Video Posted by: Exile | Mar 18 2024 8:20 utc | 77 Just in the past couple of minutes, since I posted the above @ 73, Al Jazeera is reporting that the Israelis have dropped leaflets telling the people in and around al Shifa to evacuate to al-Mawasi. That’s the western part of Khan Younis, and basically just a sand bar with no water or facilities of any kind, located 30 km away from al-Shifa hospital. Posted by: teri | Mar 18 2024 8:32 utc | 78 As Palestinians were preparing to have their pre-fast meal before dawn, Israeli forces raided Gaza City’s al-Shifa hospital under the cover of heavy aerial bombardment. Tanks surrounded the medical compound before shelling some of its buildings, including the surgery department, killing and wounding several people, according to initial reports. The entrance of the hospital caught on fire due to the heavy Israeli shelling, the Palestinian health ministry said. The ministry added that patients and families sheltering in the hospital were now besieged. Medical teams were also reportedly unable to reach people shot and wounded in the complex due to the danger posed by the heavy Israeli fire. The Israeli military said the operation in al-Shifa was launched based on information that Hamas officials were in the area without providing evidence. Middle East Eye could not independently verify the claim. Posted by: Menz | Mar 18 2024 9:56 utc | 79 @Ornot | 18 Posted by: mareskin | Mar 18 2024 10:08 utc | 80 ‘Then Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the people of Israel, and all their transgressions, all their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and sending it away into the wilderness by means of someone designated for the task. The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to a barren region; and the goat shall be set free in the wilderness.’ @Ornot | 18 Posted by: mareskin | Mar 18 2024 10:30 utc | 82 IDF airbase in Golan attacked with Drones from Iraq Posted by: Exile | Mar 18 2024 12:18 utc | 83 Posted by: Exile | Mar 18 2024 6:49 utc | 62 Posted by: Pq | Mar 18 2024 12:44 utc | 84 Marwan Barghouti, the popular Palestinian leader in prison has been assaulted twice on March 6 and 12 by Israel leaving him with bleeding eyes. Posted by: pq | Mar 18 2024 13:48 utc | 85 “Liz Truss says: “What I found out when I got into Number Ten … was that I was not holding the levers [of power]. The levers were [being] held by the Bank of England and the [City of London controlled] Office of Budget Responsibility, and not by the prime-minister or the chancellor [head of the Treasury] … What I am saying … is that if the Bank of England governor cannot be sacked and the prime-minister can be sacked, then the Bank of England governor is going to have more power than the prime-minister. And that is a problem in a [so-called] democracy”.” Israel is through this litany of inhuman crimes ensuring a terrible war in the future. It will not come when they think it will nor will it play out how they expect. While they will receive justified retribution for their callous barbarism, it is all of humanity that will suffer. A curse on the name of Israel and all others who would murder children to steal the land they inhabit. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 18 2024 14:10 utc | 87 Turkey and its Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and affiliated groups run UNHCR in Turkey – most ALL other international charities were banned – and ran it like a mafia trafficking and organ harvesting scam! Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 18 2024 14:48 utc | 88 Battlehymn Posted by: ld | Mar 18 2024 14:58 utc | 89 https://aje.io/ckq1oq?update=2781151 Posted by: Minaa | Mar 18 2024 15:19 utc | 90 The IDF is bulldozing the courtyard of al Shifa hospital. Posted by: teri | Mar 18 2024 15:45 utc | 91 ‘Then Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the people of Israel, and all their transgressions, all their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and sending it away into the wilderness by means of someone designated for the task. The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to a barren region; and the goat shall be set free in the wilderness.’ Particularly important Alastair Crooke this morning at Judging Freedom Posted by: Pundita | Mar 18 2024 15:57 utc | 93 todd | Mar 18 2024 13:06 utc | 86 Posted by: john | Mar 18 2024 16:13 utc | 94 canuck | Mar 18 2024 10:14 utc | 81 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 18 2024 16:14 utc | 95 Israel filing to ICJ made public today: Posted by: jayc | Mar 18 2024 16:52 utc | 96 I strongly suspect the US and other powers that be already had in mind the Gaza atrocity when they blew up Nordstream. I very much doubt if they would have blown it up if they did not plan on a substitute for the lost energy: the gas and oil offshore from Gaza. And they would in addition profit from that substitute. Posted by: Lysias | Mar 18 2024 16:56 utc | 97 PQ – the 16.Feb ICJ statement regarding provisional measures being ignored ( ie: stop killing people ) should be more than enough for the international community to implement the full panoply of sanctions. Posted by: Jane | Mar 18 2024 17:21 utc | 98 todd | Mar 18 2024 13:06 utc | 86 Posted by: Jane | Mar 18 2024 17:25 utc | 99 Lysias | Mar 18 2024 16:56 utc | 99 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 18 2024 17:32 utc | 100 |
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