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March 15, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-079
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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The Israeli newspapers are telling a significant half-truth (lying by omission). Posted by: librul | Mar 15 2024 15:53 utc | 1 Irish people know genocide when they see one: Posted by: Exile | Mar 15 2024 15:54 utc | 2 Per Intel Slava Z & press tv, Yemen successfully tested a hypersonic missile & plans to manufacture them in Yemen. Posted by: Mary | Mar 15 2024 16:08 utc | 3 no news on the radio for ages does that mean the slaughter is over? Posted by: todd | Mar 15 2024 16:31 utc | 4 The muslim aggressors will be crushed and thrown out of Jewish Lands…after they begin committing terrorist attacks against their new host nations the naive idiots of the West will finally understand the need to eradicate islamic terrorists wherever they may be. Posted by: Hebrew Warrior | Mar 15 2024 16:37 utc | 5 Two big points: Posted by: Cabe | Mar 15 2024 16:43 utc | 6 Oh, Canada! Posted by: librul | Mar 15 2024 16:56 utc | 7 4 you have not included thousands buried under bombed buildings…nor the many that will die from starvation…increasing disease Posted by: Jo | Mar 15 2024 16:56 utc | 8 Cabe 6 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 15 2024 17:04 utc | 9 8 Jo Thank you. Posted by: paxmark1 | Mar 15 2024 17:33 utc | 10 More Victimhood agitprop from Zollywood.
Also, remind me, wasn’t Putin condemned by the ICJ for doing the same thing? Posted by: librul | Mar 15 2024 17:49 utc | 11 I was wonder why Hamas seemed so lenient, “working with US”… latest was a straight “hostage” for prisoner exchange. Nothing else really except for “future talks” for permanent ceasefire and gradual release of rest of “hostages”. Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 15 2024 18:01 utc | 12 Going on 6 days since the first flour massacre. Israel saw this as such a success and easy way to sportingly hunt large groups of hungry people they have continued this daily. Every delivery now has had the same fate as it delivers aid. Even the UNRWA depot got its dose after giving its locations to israel. Even easier targeting thanks they said. Parachuted aid is left to fall to the ground from Egyptian jordanian and usa planes to quickly have bombs fall a few minutes later in the drop zone. elicopters used in latest attacks. Makes the mockery of the first excuse of our soldiers felt threatened. Unbridled barbarism, Zero media push back . Where’s Mark regev defending Apache helicopters firing on people as he claimed they mobbed soldiers and had to be shot you know , for safety reasons Posted by: Hankster | Mar 15 2024 18:04 utc | 13 , Canada! Oh, Canada! Warrior Posted by: Simon | Mar 15 2024 18:26 utc | 16 RE: “hope we are not seeing the calm before the storm.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 15 2024 18:35 utc | 17 Just a reminder that the death toll in Gaza is possibly (likely?) a lot more than 30,000. This 30,000 figure is just going to be repeated and the true death toll suppressed. Check out Nader’s piece on Naked Capitalism. Posted by: TG | Mar 15 2024 18:45 utc | 18 @ Giyane | Mar 15 2024 17:04 utc | 9 Posted by: Cabe | Mar 15 2024 18:46 utc | 19 Maybe so. It looks like Netenyahoo’s atatement about Raffah is calling out Hezbola Posted by: c | Mar 15 2024 18:46 utc | 20 Houthis target INDIAN OCEAN: Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 15 2024 18:52 utc | 21 RE: Posted by: Hebrew Warrior | Mar 15 2024 16:37 utc | 5 Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 15 2024 19:00 utc | 23 Posted by: Cabe | Mar 15 2024 18:46 utc | 19 Posted by: Wim | Mar 15 2024 19:15 utc | 24 ICJ will hear Nicaraguan case vs. Germany: Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 15 2024 19:16 utc | 25 Here is how Russia is working against the Palestinian resistance (in particular Hamas)in objective allignement with US/Israel designs: Posted by: JB | Mar 15 2024 20:06 utc | 26 Media reporting that Israeli forces are gearing up to begin “evacuating” Palestinians from Rafah, what exactly does this entail I wonder, are over one million Palestinians currently in Rafah to be forced out of it, and if so to where, and we have an inkling what will happen to them if they don’t go, surely Israel doesn’t think it can get away with such a huge exercise in forced displacement. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 15 2024 20:23 utc | 27 RE: Posted by: JB | Mar 15 2024 20:06 utc | 26 Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 15 2024 20:37 utc | 28 RE: Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 15 2024 20:23 utc | 27 Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 15 2024 20:48 utc | 29 Posted by: Cabe | Mar 15 2024 18:46 utc | 19 and Posted by: snake | Mar 15 2024 20:50 utc | 30 Here is how Russia is working against the Palestinian resistance (in particular Hamas)in objective allignement with US/Israel designs: Posted by: Pq | Mar 15 2024 21:02 utc | 31 When the ICJ ruled in 2004 on the wall, NATO’s war of terror on West Asia was just starting and NATO / Israel were hopeful of grabbing the resources of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya without problems. Posted by: Pq | Mar 15 2024 21:26 utc | 32 A subtitled version of the Yemeni Armed Forces statement today, March 15th, 2024, at the million-man march in Sana’a, announcing the targeting of five American and zionist ships in the Red Sea and Indian Ocean with naval missiles and drones. Posted by: MiniMO | Mar 15 2024 21:32 utc | 33 How many thousands of Palestinian civilians are trapped under collapsed homes and apartment buildings in Gaza? Posted by: Tobias Cole | Mar 15 2024 21:38 utc | 34 Re true death and death toll vastly underestimated. A few weeks ago suggested that if Gaza’s population was 2.5 before the war and the IDV evacuated the Palestinians to the south where there are 1.5 million refugees now in Rafah, that math means a million Palestinians are either dead, wounded or missing. Somebody please explain how this can’t be true. Posted by: Willow | Mar 15 2024 21:49 utc | 35 Posted by: Pq | Mar 15 2024 21:02 utc | 31 Posted by: JB | Mar 15 2024 21:51 utc | 36 “3. Most violent: round them up in concentration camps and try and kill them if possible. Cabe 19 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 15 2024 23:20 utc | 39 31 PQ . I had understood the Nicaraguan case to be a flank action against European genocidal states — Nicaragua in support of the SA case. 32. PQ. “Gaza and the power of Narratives” by Ahmed Paul Keeler on Thinking Muslim podcast explains the last act of the indigenous people refers to an example in US history of Native Americans — Custer’s last stand as one outstanding historical precedent event to the present day of Israel’s strategy in Gaza — this last act of the process of implementing settler colonialism. This is a very big straw in the wind, that Schumer should feel moved to interfere in Israeli politics. The impudence! Posted by: Jane | Mar 16 2024 0:50 utc | 42 38 Canuck. The reference to Custer is really just to what happened after, how the narrative at the time used the defeat of the last-standers to intensify the narrative against the savage Indians who “had massacered” the noble cavalry men. This narrative paved the way for the final step of the settler colonialist takeover of the territory and the removal of the Sioux to a reservation according to Keeler’s thesis which is about how narratives are constructed from events to enable historical movements. Axios reporter Barak Ravid has said that Israel’s negotiating team, led by Mossad director David Barnea, is expected to leave for Doha as early as Sunday, where they will discuss the current iteration of a potential truce agreement with Hamas. Ravid further reported that Netanyahu is expected to hold consultations on whether to expand the negotiating team before it leaves for Qatar. Posted by: Lydia Gorbik | Mar 16 2024 1:52 utc | 44 JB | Mar 15 2024 21:51 utc | 36 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 16 2024 2:04 utc | 45 @ Jane | Mar 16 2024 0:50 utc | 42 Posted by: fanto | Mar 16 2024 2:06 utc | 46 fanto | Mar 16 2024 2:06 utc | 46 …. Posted by: Cynic | Mar 16 2024 2:11 utc | 47 What I find so hilarious is that the Jews require the Scott’s-Irish sect to do their fighting and achieve their goals and yet simultaneously the Jew Karl Marx proclaims that the Highland-Scott’s must be exterminated. WTF? Posted by: RLTW | Mar 16 2024 3:14 utc | 48 Opinions sought
Perhaps:
Too long? Posted by: librul | Mar 16 2024 3:19 utc | 49 Trubind 27. Palestine Chronicle says US welcomes appt. of Mustafa as new PM of PA. US and Russia in agreement on this?? 48 RLTW. US army of women, blacks, LGBTetc.,whites, Latinos, Native Americans, Asians, etc., all Americans in need of work. I heard that the deadline for rafah is up. Now what? Posted by: Immaculate deception | Mar 16 2024 4:20 utc | 53 48 RLTW. US army of women, blacks, LGBTetc.,whites, Latinos, Native Americans, Asians, etc., all Americans in need of work. Posted by: RLTW | Mar 16 2024 4:35 utc | 54
Yes; this is enormous. The ICH had already ruled, on 16.Feb, that the Israeli gov‘t has not complied with the provisional measures to stop ( a likely genocide ). Posted by: Exile | Mar 16 2024 5:36 utc | 55 RLTW, Posted by: Exile | Mar 16 2024 5:40 utc | 56 54 RLTW. Correction All Americans, many in need of work, many to serve. ….. What specific missions of the US armed services are you referring to when you criticize some of those currently serving?…… Posted by: Exile | Mar 16 2024 6:39 utc | 58 I was asking RLTW for evidence those groups currently serving thAt he disparages can’t cut it 31 PQ . I had understood the Nicaraguan case to be a flank action against European genocidal states — Nicaragua in support of the SA case. Posted by: Pq | Mar 16 2024 7:34 utc | 60 Posted by: JB | Mar 15 2024 21:51 utc | 36 Posted by: Pq | Mar 16 2024 7:52 utc | 61 PQ. “Russia has miscalculated it’s self-interest by miscalculating the probability of Russian Jews helping Russia to re-enter Western “civilization” is the case imo. I have wondered how the Russian intelligensia could really accept being ostracized from a “civilization” that traditionally in much of its literature and culture since Peter the Great (not sure) it has strived to be part of. “What I find so hilarious is that the Jews require the Scott’s-Irish sect to do their fighting and achieve their goals and yet simultaneously the Jew Karl Marx proclaims that the Highland-Scott’s must be exterminated. WTF?” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 16 2024 10:26 utc | 63 Khalissee Posted by: Menz | Mar 16 2024 10:35 utc | 64 RE: Trubind 27. Palestine Chronicle says US welcomes appt. of Mustafa as new PM of PA. US and Russia in agreement on this?? Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 16 2024 12:04 utc | 65 “38 Canuck. The reference to Custer is really just to what happened after, how the narrative at the time used the defeat of the last-standers to intensify the narrative against the savage Indians who “had massacred” the noble cavalry men. This narrative paved the way for the final step of the settler colonialist takeover of the territory and the removal of the Sioux to a reservation according to Keeler’s thesis which is about how narratives are constructed from events to enable historical movements.” “True I was never so inclined, but a brother died from Camp Lejeune contamination.” Israel is winning…Israel will keep winning…the total conquest of palestine is almost completed… Posted by: Smash Hamas! | Mar 16 2024 13:33 utc | 68 Posted by: Hebrew Warrior | Mar 15 2024 16:37 utc | 5 Posted by: Greg | Mar 16 2024 13:52 utc | 69 fanto “Schumer talking to Menachem Begin in 1982 (!) that ‘he needs to kill them all, women and children’ (Blumenthal quotes a book for this quote).” Posted by: Minaa | Mar 16 2024 14:32 utc | 70 According to Al Jazeera a coupel of days ago, “Hamas” was stating that the pier was a step in the good direction. No idea how many rival currents they have at the moment. Another big statement was that they had accepted to be under Fatah’s rule for a future gov, so very strange that they claim something different now, unless they are all just buying time for more horrors to unfold. Posted by: Minaa | Mar 16 2024 14:34 utc | 71 @Wim #24 Posted by: billb | Mar 16 2024 14:38 utc | 72 History repeats. Posted by: librul | Mar 16 2024 14:41 utc | 73 Posted by: Smash Hamas! | Mar 16 2024 13:33 utc | 68 Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 16 2024 15:14 utc | 74 “the total conquest of palestine is almost completed” Posted by: Simon | Mar 16 2024 15:28 utc | 75 Tens of Thousands of innocent worshippers pray for peace at Al-Aqsa Holy Site today Posted by: Exile | Mar 16 2024 16:06 utc | 76 JB | Mar 15 2024 21:51 utc | 37 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 16 2024 16:16 utc | 77 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 15 2024 20:23 utc | 28 Posted by: AI | Mar 16 2024 16:35 utc | 78 Correction: IDV should be IDF Posted by: AI | Mar 16 2024 16:47 utc | 79 AI (79). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 16 2024 17:01 utc | 80 Smash Hamas! (69). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 16 2024 17:04 utc | 81 The bar flys here live in such an information bubble they are unaware of the ongoing civil war among Palestinian clans and Hamas. The string of massacres over aid shipments are the direct result of this inner-Palestinian struggle. Posted by: Zargo | Mar 16 2024 17:18 utc | 82 Zargo, Posted by: Exile | Mar 16 2024 17:29 utc | 83 Zargo | Mar 16 2024 17:18 utc | 83 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 16 2024 17:33 utc | 84 Israel Uber Alles?, by Philip Giraldi – The Unz Review Posted by: snake | Mar 16 2024 17:41 utc | 85 Yes! Political resistence forces intensify against the zionist machinations. A counter to the AIPAC is officially formed. Posted by: Stonedar | Mar 16 2024 17:54 utc | 86 “>https://www.uniteddemocracyproject.org” Posted by: Stonedar | Mar 16 2024 18:00 utc | 87 $40 million is chicken feed in the era of billion dollar presidential campaigns Posted by: Exile | Mar 16 2024 18:02 utc | 88 Posted by: Stonedar | Mar 16 2024 18:00 utc | 88 Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 16 2024 18:13 utc | 89 https://fitzinfo.net/2024/03/08/soviets-founded-state-of-israel-and-zionism-balfour-declaration-a-decoy/ Posted by: Jack A | Mar 16 2024 18:22 utc | 90 strong supporters of the U.S.-Israel relationship
Posted by: sln2002 | Mar 16 2024 18:36 utc | 91 …… , the Israelis were obliged to offer an extra 1.35%, 1.45%, and 1.75% more in interest over the going rate for US Treasury bonds for the same length of term.…. Posted by: Exile | Mar 16 2024 18:45 utc | 92 Posted by: Menz | Mar 16 2024 10:35 utc | 65 – Americans are waking up to Zionism! Posted by: KMRIA | Mar 16 2024 19:08 utc | 93 …… ,” the Israelis were obliged to offer an extra 1.35%, 1.45%, and 1.75% more in interest over the going rate for US Treasury bonds for the same length of term.…. Very good interview and amazing woman (as also her whole family) Posted by: Minaa | Mar 16 2024 19:28 utc | 95 Jack A 91 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 16 2024 19:35 utc | 96 recap
One week, 8K more dead, two flour massacres, and one pallet killer later, a NEW! “marine corridor” for IDF-hosted Ramadan shelters
* Cuisine, ready-to-eat [CRE] curated by D.C. darling chef José Andrés who famously fed Puerto Rico and sued the Trump family over catering bills and border security, 2017-2018.
* “Palestinian Authority+” regime change has been waiting in the wings since October, here and here. Haaretz periodically pimped this Hobson drama here and here, for example, until Shtayyeh quit. Posted by: sln2002 | Mar 16 2024 19:57 utc | 97 This discussion today was very informative, recommend. Posted by: Jane | Mar 16 2024 19:58 utc | 98 Posted by: Jane | Mar 16 2024 19:58 utc | 99 Posted by: sln2002 | Mar 16 2024 20:09 utc | 99 54 RLTW. Correction All Americans, many in need of work, many to serve. Posted by: RLTW | Mar 16 2024 20:13 utc | 100 |
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