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March 10, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-076
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I’d like to suggest that this quirky article from The Daily Mail is worth considering in the Palestine thread
Is THIS Britain’s strangest bungalow?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13159045/Is-Britains-strangest-bungalow-Time-warp-home-stuck-1970s-sale-285k-wait-extension.html
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Mar 10 2024 16:19 utc | 1
I cannot help feeling thevtotal outrageousness of this genocide is designed to divert our attention from something even more heinous, or to accustomise us to continuous future outrageous behaviour by USUKIS, maybe nuclear or biological warfare.
When I think about times in my life when I have been similarly outraged, like in my divorce, I realised that the outrageous behaviour was 1/ related to Jewish lying, the Khazarian, not the Moses factor
2/ designed entirely to commit theft
3/ was very conspiratorial in that the vicar, the solicitor, the doctor, and my family were totally unsympathetic to my outrage and saw what was going on as normal.
This is when a psychiatrist and a counsellor advised me to stick to my own view of the world, not try to adapt to other people’s normality.
As soon as I left, I found another reality, Islam, which was the opposite of Western normality, and which corroborated exactly to my own understanding of the world .
It was like Jesus AS telling the disciples in the boat on the sea of Galilee in a storm to cast their nets on the other side of the boat, and the nets were so full that they were hardly able to get their catch on board.
You can’t make omelette without breaking eggs. You can’t grow spiritually when you are surrounded by spiritual earthworms. The Western world is a barren , sterile place with white, irradiated earthworms.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 10 2024 16:19 utc | 2
OT, but there’s no thread for this: It looks like we’ve got boots on the ground in Haiti. Supposedly to ‘rescue embassy staff,’ we’ll see how long they stay, or if more go in.
Posted by: Honzo | Mar 10 2024 16:27 utc | 3
Honzo 3
How many boots? A centipede, a millipede or an army. Why can’t they ever leave Haiti alone? It’s like Rwanda, the place HMG Sunak declares
to be safe for terrified asylum seekers fleeing shelter from ethnic cleansing in their own oil-rich country.
All one say is that Sunak has a very large arsehole and he loves talking out of it all the time in public. Even more than his next door
neighbour BoJo.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 10 2024 16:36 utc | 4
Lebanese TV reports:
11:41 Al-Qassam fighters detonated a previously booby-trapped house, targeting a Zionist foot patrol, which left casualties: statement
15:41 Islamic Resistance fighters fire Burkan missiles at Al-Raheb site and a gathering of Israeli occupation soldiers in its vicinity, inflicting direct hits: statement
18:47 Hezbollah fighters target for the second time on Sunday Ma’aleh Golan occupation barracks with dozens of Katyusha missiles: statement
Posted by: Exile | Mar 10 2024 17:05 utc | 6
The massacre of the people in Palestine is becoming unbearable to read in text, listen on the radio and watch on TV.
Posted by: AI | Mar 10 2024 17:11 utc | 7
https://scheerpost.com/2024/03/09/you-are-betraying-your-ancestors-a-message-to-joe-biden-from-the-graveyard-where-his-ancestors-are-buried/
This was a good slap in the face for Biden.
Posted by: KMRIA | Mar 10 2024 17:14 utc | 8
Al Jazeera claims Biden’s intended US aid ‘pier’ projected to be built in Gaza is ‘just a distraction’. Surely there’s more to it. Any thoughts on what might really be going on here?
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 10 2024 17:43 utc | 9
Canada and Sweden restored the funding of UNWRA, in particular, they will provide April part of their promised contribution, I wonder how many countries will follow. I guess that most people recall that the suspension was caused by acceptance of Israeli accusations, and instead of proofs, Israel produced more accusations.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 10 2024 17:59 utc | 10
@9
They probably will build this wonderful temporary pier for offloading a token amount of supplies – but it will take weeks to build and those will be ongoing weeks of slaughter for the Palestinians, while the USA continues to supply Israel with money and ammunition. Building the pier is an attempt to retain the appearance of even-handedness while allowing Israel latitude to complete its ‘mission’, which is the eradication of the Palestinian people. Perhaps that’s too ambitious, because they don’t have enough ammunition to kill them all unless they used weapons of mass destruction, and I’m not even sure what the aim is, but Israel has chafed since its inception at the lengthy sea frontage that belongs to Gaza, and Israel always, always craves more land.
I can’t, however, see them occupying the part of Gaza from which the Palestinians have been driven out, and to which at least 30,000 will never return. I don’t know if you saw that newspaper article, in which a Jewish real-estate tour was selling building lots in the West Bank,
https://www.timescolonist.com/national-news/palestine-is-not-for-sale-israeli-event-promoting-west-bank-property-draws-protest-8408993
but a determined effort seems to be underway to increase the population of Jews in Israel and in land areas Israel covets – then they can say, “But our people must have a place to live!” Perhaps Benny envisions a similar effort in Gaza – we have nothing against the Palestinians, but now there’s no more land for them. Most of us know the USA likes to let a situation get established – if it fits with its foreign-policy objectives – and then say rhetorically, “What are you gonna do? We don’t like it, but we mind our own business and perhaps it’d be best to just let ‘er be and let those folks sort out things for themselves.”
If that’s the game, I don’t see it working without more overt help from the Israel-worshiping ‘democracies’ in the west, because the Jewish people overall (including those, unfortunately, who had nothing to do with the current situation and are openly appalled by it) have never been so widely hated as they are now. It’d take a thick skin indeed for international Jews to move to Israel to colonize Gaza.
To me, a silance of educatrd and progressive EU elites regarding this genocide in Gaza is the most terrible sound of this time.
Posted by: vargas | Mar 10 2024 18:18 utc | 12
I’ve been wondering why the Gazan death toll has been so stubburnly sticking at around 30k for the last couple of months, despite the daily massacres.
Here’s Ralph Nader’s take:
https://www.unz.com/article/how-many-gazans-have-already-died-perhaps-200000/
Posted by: Observer | Mar 10 2024 18:18 utc | 13
@KMRIA | Mar 10 2024 17:14 utc | 8
Thanks for that. D.
# Also reasonably useful piece from Irish author in Al Jazeera
Ireland’s post-colonial identity crisis and Gaza
People of Ireland have been clear in their support for Palestinian liberation. Why is the Irish government struggling to follow suit?
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/3/8/irelands-post-colonial-identity-crisis-and-gaza
Note: Irish far-right remains very small – but worth keeping an eye on.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 10 2024 18:28 utc | 14
Honzo 3
How many boots? A centipede, a millipede or an army. Why can’t they ever leave Haiti alone?
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 10 2024 16:36 utc | 4
A bunch of Marines, not clear how many. First report was that they ‘stormed ashore’ to rescue American citizens, now the story is that they are securing the departure of ‘non-essential personnel,’ ‘supporting Embassy operations,’ and ‘supporting the Haitian security police.’ Sounds like they’re going to try to put down Barbecue’s insurrection, and that may take a while. Haitian Holocaust, here we come.
Posted by: Honzo | Mar 10 2024 18:28 utc | 15
Why isnt the pope in the Vatican excommunicating Biden and other Catholics who support the genocide rather than just call mildly for a ceasefire?
Posted by: Minaa | Mar 10 2024 18:36 utc | 16
Posted by: Minaa | Mar 10 2024 18:36 utc | 15
Canossa is history that will not repeat.
He will achieve nothing with excommunication. a dull tool in this time.
Posted by: MAKK | Mar 10 2024 18:40 utc | 17
Vargas
The EU is operating without any legal framework. It has added layers of regilations, binding directives and laws that sometimes are in contradiction with national laws. In fact, EU laws are superior to the national constitutions but that is never discussed openly.
In education, since Bologna, only the rich can pay for the language courses and preparatory summer schools (US model). On top of that, EU expansionism has been using research funding as a way to intensify bilateral relations (Turkey, Israel, USA…) and to politicize research (scientific agreements with Uganda in spite of the law punishing homosexuality with death penalty, etc.)
Look at Ukraine, EU is a genocidal machine for years now.
Posted by: Minaa | Mar 10 2024 18:43 utc | 18
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 10 2024 17:43 utc | 9
On US “aid pier”:
– Sunday, March 10,
GALLANT: “Establishing the pier in Gaza will contribute to undermining the authority of the Hamas movement.”
– 09.03.2024
AlAhram:
09:32 A UN expert on Friday criticized US efforts to boost humanitarian aid to Gaza, such as plans for a temporary port and recent airdrops, which he said were “absurd” and “cynical” methods.
Michael Fakhri, the UN special rapporteur on the right to food, said such methods made little sense while Washington continues to provide military support to Israel.
Airdrops in particular “will do very little to alleviate hunger, malnutrition, and do nothing to slow down famine,” he told reporters in Geneva.
“That’s more than allyship. That’s a marriage … It’s almost incomprehensible,” he said of America’s support to Israel, calling the recent aid measures a “performance to try to meet a domestic audience with (US presidential) elections around the corner.”
“That’s the only rational coherent interpretation (for these aid announcements) because …from a humanitarian perspective, from an international perspective, from a human rights perspective, it is absurd in a dark, cynical way,” he said.
He warned of chaos as starving people compete for supplies. As for the port, he said no one had asked for it. He called the port and airdrops methods of “last resort.”
“The time when countries use airdrops, and these maritime piers, is usually if not always, in situations when you want to deliver humanitarian aid into enemy territory,” he said.
– https://www.palestinechronicle.com/is-the-gaza-pier-a-us-conspiracy-gaza-on-the-line-pc-tv/
Should be viewed together with the EU “aid corridor” from Cyprus, which is a weapons route for Israel that is now intended to be used also to displace Gazans from Gaza. Using Cyprus as a location from which to disperse Palestinians elsewhere is, apparently, a 10-year old plan.
Posted by: vargas | Mar 10 2024 18:18 utc | 12
To me, a silance of educated and progressive EU elites regarding this genocide in Gaza is the most terrible sound of this time.
There are no ‘progressive EU elites’. If you know anything about the EU, in reality, not in fantasies and propaganda about it, then you would know that there is no such thing as ‘progressive EU elites’. There is nothing progressive about the EU, or in the EU.
Posted by: JB | Mar 10 2024 18:49 utc | 19
If you excuse the Germans from 1930’, today’s Germany is equally bad.
Why Germany’s “Coming-to-Terms” with its Nazi past has not only failed but backfired.
By TARIK CYRIL AMAR
https://tarikcyrilamar.substack.com/p/pride-and-prejudices-and-totalausfall
Posted by: RB | Mar 10 2024 19:05 utc | 20
vargas 12
AI 7
Fully agree; the silence of actors in Hollywood likewise is shocking. The likes of Shawn Penn who had full mouths for other justifiable events, are mumm about Palestine now. Only few – to my knowledge – had courage to speak out. And those few are predominantly with roots in Middle East or in Africa. Angelina Jolie stands out, bravo for her!
https://www.gqmiddleeast.com/culture/celebrities-solidarity-with-palestine
Posted by: fanto | Mar 10 2024 19:12 utc | 21
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 10 2024 18:28 utc | 13
Great piece. Thanks for sharing Don. I suppose the link I posted could be seen as suggesting the Irish are always virtuous, which is not true and not what I intended to convey. It’s never been true of any people. I hope the far right there remains negligible as well.The government’s cautiousness is not surprising either, given the extent to which the country’s fortunes are largely dependent upon multinational corporations. As a man of the (non-doctrinaire) left, I have been disappointed that the Irish government has not taken a stronger position on Palestine, among other things. That said, I believe Sinn Fein has made a much stronger showing in recent years, which I would expect to have some influence on the Palestinian issue.
Posted by: KMRIA | Mar 10 2024 19:18 utc | 22
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 10 2024 16:36 utc | 4
They cant leave Haiti alone because its one of the only colonies to throw the yolk off back in the day.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Mar 10 2024 19:49 utc | 23
For those suspecting that the casualty claims by Hamas/Gaza were fraudulent, we now have reasonable proof:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers
A good fraudster would take note of basic statistical analysis when compiling their fraudulent claims. The Gazans are not good fraudsters, making their wholly fictitious casualty claims absurd when analyzed even at a basic level.
Posted by: Anonymous3 | Mar 10 2024 19:53 utc | 24
#15 Minaa…real “JB” is not alive what you see is a actor.. …it would be non sense to excommunicate non identical person …go to realrawnews.com
Al-Qassem daily SitRep
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2061941
Comment – usual ambushes, 2 videos – the first is a video of a Arab drone dropping a couple of bombs on a IDF encampment. First time. The second is a video compilation of a bunch of light mortars firing off what appear to be harassing rounds.
Posted by: Exile | Mar 10 2024 20:02 utc | 26
Re: how many civilians has the IDF genocide so far ?
Ralph Nadar estimates at least 200,000 killed.
https://nader.org/2024/03/05/stop-the-worsening-undercount-of-palestinian-casualties-in-gaza/
Posted by: Exile | Mar 10 2024 20:04 utc | 27
Honzo@3… Embassy staff is code for CIA personnel. Interesting timing.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 10 2024 20:09 utc | 28
Note: Irish far-right remains very small – but worth keeping an eye on.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 10 2024 18:28 utc | 13
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Are the Palestinians far-right?
Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Mar 10 2024 20:47 utc | 29
Posted by: Anonymous3 | Mar 10 2024 19:53 utc | 23
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Tablemag’s ‘About Us’ section begins with the declaration ‘Tablet is a Jewish magazine about the world’.
Just saying
Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Mar 10 2024 20:58 utc | 30
Nader’s article is completely convincing……if the IDF has dropped 65,000 bombs and missiles (not counting arty and tank rounds and combat infantry actions) on a confined Gaza population of over 2.4 million then an estimated death toll of 30,000 does seen absurdly low.
Since over 75% of Gaza homes and apartments have been destroyed by airstrikes, how many civilians are now trapped in the ruins of these structures? Surely it must be tens of thousands.
Since the IDF has targeted Gaza hospitals, aid stations, clinics and EMT/paramedics, how could the estimated 75,000 wounded survive? Not likely. Especially since the IDF is using cluster and white phosphorus ammo on the civilian population!
In fact its now estimated that continued IDF airstrikes and ground combat have killed 50% of the original hostages, who for various reasons the Palestinian Infada forces have strived to secure. What then can be the fate of the 2.4 million civilians not able to avail themselves of such protections?
The IDF has deliberately restricted food and medical truck deliveries to 100 truck loads per day, when at least 500 per day is needed to sustain the civilian population. Under such circumstances the lack of food, clean water and medical supplies surely will lead to enormous civilians deaths from hunger and disease. In addition little of the 100 truck loads of food and supplies is making its way into Northern Gaza because of destroyed roads, and IDF military operations and prohibitions.
Nader’s estimates of 200,000 civilians deaths due to IDF criminal actions appear to be entirely reasonable.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Mar 10 2024 21:44 utc | 31
Don 28 – Ireland lacks a strong center right Catholic party.
The current coalition government of Fine Gael/FF is just an EU dependent socialist anti Catholic government pledged to destroying Irish culture and history. How else could one explain the mass importation of aliens via an EU mandate that has caused immense hardship and dislocation in the Irish nation.
This coalition monster has in blindly complying to EU mandates attacked its own agricultural and fishing sectors, placing incredible and undue green communist burdens on these key economic sectors.
It has deliberately repressed the Catholic faithful even threatening with arrest those caught attending and celebrating the mass during the emergency periods, shades of the mass rocks of the past !
The defense capacities of Irish nation have effectively disappeared, no serviceable air force, and a nearly completely truncated navy. The nation has no capacity to defend itself.
Yes, Ireland needs a strong center right, pro Catholic Party and soon too. But there is hope, the coalition government’s radical constitutional changes were roundly rejected this. Hopefully the tide has turned against the Orwellians now in charge in Dublin.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Mar 10 2024 22:00 utc | 32
First they came for the Palestinians, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Palestinian.
Posted by: Kingsmeg | Mar 10 2024 22:21 utc | 33
Why is the Irish government struggling to follow suit?
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 10 2024 18:28 utc | 13
The Irish government, like all EU governments, are Christmas decorations. For show. They tow the EU line.
EU line: support Israel at all costs while blabbering about human rights because the Global South are such dumb Jungle People they probably won’t notice what racist hypocrites we are.
Do you think the EU would be sitting on their backside if say Egypt and Jordan had bombed Tel Aviv non stop for 5 months and killed 10,000 Israeli kids? Look at the crying and screaming over non-existent “babies hung on clothesline”. How the fuck do you even do that or think of such a thing such as baked baby?
Can anyone imagine WEF puppet Leo Varadkar suddenly showing up at the EU Parliament with Clare Daly and Mick Wallace brandishing a Palestinian flag?
Forget about meaningful actions, Ireland’s big issue right now is whether to get pissed with Genocide Joe on St. Patrick’s Day. For now, as far as I know, Varadkar and Sinn Fein will be going.
https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2024/0204/1430148-st-patricks-day-us/
The only one tostand up to the EU is the racist Hungarian government: if you’re in any doubt as to how much Israeli ass they kiss, read their ICJ submission.
The ICJ submissions on the illegal occupation were telling: most of the global south (except Fiji and Zambia) said: (1) end the brutal, illegal occupation immediately and unconditionally,
(2) end apartheied, and
(3) implement right of return.
To these fundamentals demands, they added reparations and getting rid of the West Bank and EJ settlements etc. These three demands in effect obviate the need for any discussion on one state or two state.
Insead all the European countries including Russia and Ireland, expressed sympathy for Israel and said: ok well, the settlements are a bit on the illegal side but let’s chat about all the rest of it and forget about the law.
While Hungary, US and UK told the ICJ not to interfere at all, let’s chat about everything.
I know Scott Ritter, whom I respect, thinks Russia is going to save the day but I doubt it. Inviting the groups to Moscow is all well and good but their ICJ submission show them to be totally on the Israeli team.
I thought this was an interesting take on Russia which kind of aligns with what I think.
Russia’s victory in struggle with collective West will be achieved in Middle East, not Eastern Europe
https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/opinion/russia-s-victory-in-struggle-with-collective-west-will-be-ac
I see Putin as a Europhile in that aligning with Europe was always the first choice. Brokering an agreement in Israel which allows the apartheid regime to continue while giving Palestinians the minimum possible, in Putin’s mind, would be a win which allows Russia to rejoin “civilization” especially if influential Russian Jews lobby for this in DC. I think this is Putin’s idea.
He still may not have realized that the Collective Waste treats nobody else as an equal.
Putin needs to realize that Israel is nobody’s friend. Russia will be better able to stand up to the Collective Waste if it accept its Asian identity instead of trying to sit on the fence.
In an ideal world, there would be no need for blocs against the Collective Waste, a country like Russia would not need to choose. Unfortunately CW isn’t ready to treat the rest of the world as equals yet.
Posted by: pq | Mar 10 2024 22:25 utc | 34
A Jewish person going to Palestine from the US, or Argentina can arrive and grab someone else’s house and, if they feel like some entertainment, kill Palestinians, kill their sheep and goats, set fire to their trees and cars, pour cement down their wells, and so on. And mostly get away with it.
Now imagine that same Jewish person from Brooklyn immigrating to say the UK or Germany and pulling the same stunts there as they do in Palestine….
Posted by: pq | Mar 10 2024 22:36 utc | 35
The pier…
The current Gaza war map. https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=es&mid=1SrPdIEnbc9pLZIL_nD02rfOGiUuAboc&ll=31.521905213317257%2C34.58244204870585&z=10
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2024 22:37 utc | 36
Hit post instead of preview with the Gaza war map link.
I saw a picture of a US landing ship that is supposedly taking aid to Gaza. No pier required. Just nose up to the shore unless it is very shallow beach.
If a pier is built, it will be in Israeli controlled area, but its most likely intended that it will be fait acompli on the part of the Zionists and the aid crap is just to mollify western peasants for a few weeks until that is achieved.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2024 22:44 utc | 37
@TheNorthernChef | Mar 10 2024 20:47 utc | 28
Humbly suggest your fully read the opinion piece linked @#13 before you get too excited and spiced up about the qualifier … there’s a good girl.
@ Tobias Cole #31
Humbly suggest your fully read the opinion piece linked @#13 before you get too excited and spiced up about the qualifier … wherein you will find yourself, thankfully in a very, very small minority … maith an buachaill Tobias!
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 10 2024 22:54 utc | 38
@pq #34
Minor point on citation.
Why is the Irish government struggling to follow suit?
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 10 2024 18:28 utc | 13
These are not my words. They come from the ‘information piece’ I linked to by Aisling Walsh. I simply added a qualifier on her take on the far-right in Ireland’
So:
“Why is the Irish government struggling to follow suit?” Aisling Walsh
Link posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 10 2024 18:28 utc | 13
That’s better. I’d love to see Varadkar, Wallace, and Daly dance a jig in Brussels wrapped in the Palestinian Flag and waving a few bozookas – or preferably man-pads!
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 10 2024 23:15 utc | 39
“Are the Palestinians far-right?’
TheNorthernChef@28
No they are not. If they were they would be allied with Israel and the United States.
As Asad abu khalil points out at Consortium News Hamas has moved to the left and is now a bona fide liberation movement. the qassem Brogades were part of a force which also included the socialist PFLP and other ‘Marxist’ militias.
Tobias Cole | Mar 10 2024 22:00 utc | 31
If Ireland has had a bellyfull of anything politically it is pro-Catholic parties Did you not hear about Fianna Fail and de Valera?
As to Fine Gael, aka the Blueshirts, they are well to the right of centre.
The notion that Ireland has ever been ruled by ‘socialists’ could only ever be entertained by someone totally innocent of any Irish historical knowledge in the past century.
It was not long ago that crypto fascist Priests denounced even Labour Party candidates from their pulpits in the run-up to the elections.
Posted by: bevin | Mar 10 2024 23:37 utc | 40
Don 13 – The article is total nonsense……..the first slaves sold to plantations in the Caribbean were Irish Catholics shipped out of Ireland by Cronwellian and Elizabethian forces.
Irish Catholics as slavers impossible, oxymoronic rubbish
……….Ms Walsh badly needs a pint ……….
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Mar 10 2024 23:55 utc | 41
The Muslim Cavalry is NOT coming to the aid of the Palestainians and our protests also failed to defeat the IDF…comrades, we’ve lost again.
Israel is unstoppable and the only thing we can do is circle-jerk with our RevengePorn fantasies here at MOA.
Damn you for always winning, Zion!!!
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 11 2024 0:21 utc | 42
Both the the US and UK have stated their aim is global hegemony towards the Pacific and the British slogan for that is Empire2. Obviously Empire2 will have be built by the same violent , illegal , immoral means as Empire1. That’s understood in the slogan.
They’re not the only collapsed Empire that wants to re-acquire their empire. Most empires do. The difference with the Brits is that they think it’s funny to copy the style of British callousness of Empire 1. This is a misunderstanding of Empire1 which succeeded by bringing new technology from its Industrial Revolution.
Empire2 has no new technology , just gaffawing arrogance. The whole world is watching Ukraine losing and wondering in Britain has any substance behind its new found arrogance.
The technology used to blow up Nordstream is pretty old, and the sea drones used to destroy the Russian frigate is fairly old as well. The only thing that is new about Britain is its chutzpah, daring to pokevthevbear
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 11 2024 0:31 utc | 43
South Africa’s FM Naledi Pandor’s latest two speeches in the dialogue on Palestine meetings being held around the country…
https://youtu.be/87fyilgnwng
https://youtu.be/NfpWttCzQ6o
Posted by: petra | Mar 11 2024 0:37 utc | 44
Day that’s in it ….
# @Mothers
Happy Mothers’ Day!
@ Followers of The Prophet [PBUH}
Ramadan Mubarak!
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 11 2024 0:39 utc | 45
42 cont.
Daring to commit genocide brazenly in front of the entire world. Daring to accuse the principle supplier of manufactured goods as a threat
to world peace, when we all know these narratives are made up by schoolboys in Bellingcat and the Guardian.
How long do they think they can float these empty narratives on cyberspace and expect the real world to take them seriously? Why does the ICJ credit these schoolboy pranksters with any power?
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 11 2024 0:44 utc | 46
Are the Palestinians far-right?
Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Mar 10 2024 20:47 utc | 28
No they are not.
Posted by: bevin | Mar 10 2024 23:37 utc | 39
Suppose the Palestinians miraculously repel their genociders, regain their lost land, and establish their own state. Would they instanly become “far-right” if they opposed more immigration to their land and subversion of their history and culture?
Posted by: benzanotto | Mar 11 2024 0:45 utc | 47
not Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 11 2024 0:21 utc | 41
That was absolutely hilarious on so many different levels. I didn’t just laugh out loud you put a smile on my face.
Where’s Arch?
Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 11 2024 0:51 utc | 48
Finally, a spot of History for the ‘blindly pious’ Hibernian!
The Irish and the Atlantic slave trade
https://www.historyireland.com/the-irish-and-the-atlantic-slave-trade/
Worth reading. St. Patrick, of course, was a ‘ Welsh slave’ – allegedly brought to Ireland by an Irish slave-trader named ‘Cole’ [anti-Annals of St. Tobias, Vol. XXIII]
b-arman – a large Hennessy please – and have one yourself.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 11 2024 0:51 utc | 49
Posted by: Anonymous3 | Mar 10 2024 19:53 utc | 23
With an authoritative source like Tabletrag, I cannot have any doubts. BTW, did Tabletrag elucidated about the number of Hannibalized Israelis? Some claim that they are the majority of the killed on 10/7, what are the alternative estimates?
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 11 2024 1:17 utc | 50
Suppose the Palestinians miraculously repel their genociders, regain their lost land, and establish their own state. Would they instanly become “far-right” if they opposed more immigration to their land and subversion of their history and culture?
Posted by: benzanotto | Mar 11 2024 0:45 utc | 46
Yes, and they would be fervently supported by Meloni, Sunak etc.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 11 2024 1:19 utc | 51
The mood at Oscars is subdued, feels that there is obvious awareness among the most attendees, that this “fest” and the mass killing and maiming of Palestinians going on at this very time – these do not fit together.
The 20 Days in Mariupol was of course a winner, with the shameless guy who talked after receiving the trophy..
Posted by: fanto | Mar 11 2024 1:25 utc | 52
TO Anonymous3
If Hamas’ casualty numbers are fraudulent then it follows that the IDF is the most incompetent military force in history…given the number of bombs they dropped in the small open air prison.
Just in Northern Gaza, the equivalent of two atomic bombs.
Posted by: JAB | Mar 11 2024 2:02 utc | 53
Iranian soldiers have been seen in Gaza patrolling and distributing Aid at distribution sites they control.
https://youtu.be/8SME0ZAP_Ok?si=mgINDj20IuxbbtGx
Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 11 2024 2:46 utc | 54
Speaking of the Oscars, there was some buzz that Nutty Yahoo and his band of merry zionazis were going to invade Lebanon coinciding with the farce in LA.
Or was it Rafah?
Anyone know if that’s happening?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 11 2024 4:08 utc | 55
@9, John Gilberts, actually it would a nice platform for the oil they intend on stealing.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Mar 11 2024 4:27 utc | 56
From RT:
Erdogan among ‘greatest anti-Semites in history’ – Israeli FM
10 Mar, 2024 12:46 / Updated 15 hours ago
RT
Türkiye is the world’s largest supporter of terrorism due to its backing of Hamas, Israel Katz has claimed
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan ranks among the worst anti-Semites in history because of his stance on the Gaza conflict, Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz has claimed.
In a speech on Saturday, Erdogan compared Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Nazi German dictator Adolf Hitler, referring to the relentless IDF attacks on Gaza, which have killed at least 30,960 people and wounded 72,524 others, according to the health ministry in the Palestinian enclave. He also again refused to label Hamas a terrorist organization, saying Ankara “firmly backs” the leadership of the Palestinian armed group.
Katz, a member of Netanyahu’s Likud Party, responded to the Turkish president’s remarks a few hours later on X (formerly Twitter), in both Hebrew and Turkish.
Hamas committed “murders and sexual assaults” during its incursion into Israel on October 7, in which more than 1,100 people were killed and some 240 taken hostage, he said, claiming that Erdogan’s support for the group makes him one “of the greatest oppressors and anti-Semites in history.”
Türkiye has become “the largest supporter of terrorism in the world, along with Iran,” which brings “shame” on the country, the diplomat insisted.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 11 2024 5:10 utc | 57
Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 11 2024 4:08 utc | 54
Have just been watching the big picture in that direction rather than day to day stuff.
Syrian and Iraqi militias seemed to have eased up on hitting US bases since the strike in Jordan. Not sure what’s going on behind the scenes there. Houthi’s unchanged. What I have found interesting is most of the strikes are occurring in the Gulf of Aden not not the red sea. Houthi’s supposedly do not control that coastline so Saudi/UAE backing there.
Hezbollah strikes into Isreal continue unabated yet have failed to draw Zionist forces into the killing field.
Although Hamas will remain undefeated, Isreal will reduce all of Gaza to rubble leaving it totally uninhabitable to any remaining civilians. US/Biden pier bullshit is designed with that mind mind an to give the Zionists more time to accomplish it.
The Palestinians, the Arab world, their time will come when American power collapses. The zionist entity has sealed its fate.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 5:57 utc | 58
Iranian soldiers have been seen in Gaza patrolling and distributing Aid at distribution sites they control.
https://youtu.be/8SME0ZAP_Ok?si=mgINDj20IuxbbtGx
Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 11 2024 2:46 utc | 53
Waste of time video.
Promised video of Iranian Soldiers, shows one brief clip of Red-Crescent civilian ladelling out food to starving children.
Israel & US neocons have been screaming “Iran Iran Iran!” since this started. Video reveals the entire proof is some israeli went on TV and said “Iran Iran Iran!”
But the video narrator speaks in a British Accent, so the non-news must be authoritative.
Posted by: retroflecks | Mar 11 2024 7:20 utc | 60
For those suspecting that the casualty claims by Hamas/Gaza were fraudulent, we now have reasonable proof:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-gaza-health-ministry-fakes-casualty-numbers
A good fraudster would take note of basic statistical analysis when compiling their fraudulent claims. The Gazans are not good fraudsters, making their wholly fictitious casualty claims absurd when analyzed even at a basic level.
Posted by: Anonymous3 | Mar 10 2024 19:53 utc | 23
Abraham Wyner wynes… completely unbiased.
Cool.
Now do the same for Biden’s sElection numbers…
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5802d63eb8a79b9e8001efd1/1604794558032-1WVS0BVE3BEF3ZWQ1RTF/EmF5demXIAE7IDH.jpg
Posted by: retroflecks | Mar 11 2024 7:27 utc | 61
Quds News Network
@QudsNen
BREAKING| Israel’s military targets the family of Quds News Network English editor-in-chief, Mohammad Abu Nasser, in northern Gaza.
Rescue teams were able to rescue his father and brother, and efforts are still ongoing to rescue his mother, sister, and brother.
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1766771319473942762?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Posted by: Menz | Mar 11 2024 7:44 utc | 62
IDF celebrate a dog feeding from the corpse of a child with post on social media
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1766207088982642899
Posted by: Exile | Mar 11 2024 7:46 utc | 63
Exile | Mar 11 2024 7:46 utc | 62
merikkkan freedom fighters – I’ve seen enough of their handywork in the past and will no longer look at vids or pics depicting that.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 7:54 utc | 64
Haiti is another Anglo-American “innovation” on the scale of tragedy (perhaps greater) than what we see in Palestine.
Let’s hope these two stress-points of the Imperial Spider’s Web collapse at the same time and bring the entire f___g abomination down.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 11 2024 7:57 utc | 65
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 11 2024 7:57 utc | 64
Some background for barflies to Haiti:
America’s Historic Debt to Haiti
https://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/020906.html
America’s Role in Haiti: Sabotage of Relief Efforts?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/america-s-role-in-haiti-sabotage-of-relief-efforts/17107
Secret cable: CIA orchestrated Haiti’s 2004 coup:
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/03/01/secret-cable-cia-haiti-coup/
Posted by: Menz | Mar 11 2024 8:46 utc | 66
Arya – آریا 🇮🇷
@AryJeay
There is a difference between peace & liberation in Palestine.
https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1766873864133365931
Posted by: Menz | Mar 11 2024 9:02 utc | 67
Concerned Citizen
@BGatesIsaPyscho
🚨🇭🇹 Haiti Government Collapse
“We have every reason to be mad – The Clintons have destroyed Haiti”
“They pretend to be our friends but in reality they are our #1 enemy”
The US Military have just evacuated non essential personal for the Haiti US Embassy following Government collapse & Gangs taking over the Streets.
The Clinton Foundation has received millions to allegedly support Haiti – however their involvement in Haiti is clearly not appreciated & again linked to some extremely sinister disturbing stories involving young children.
https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1766800385560265150
Posted by: Menz | Mar 11 2024 9:08 utc | 68
Quds News Network
@QudsNen
·
15h
Displaced Palestinians decorate their tents in celebration of Ramadan, despite Israel continuing its war on Gaza.
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1766888039060574675
Posted by: Menz | Mar 11 2024 9:22 utc | 69
I see Putin as a Europhile in that aligning with Europe was always the first choice. Brokering an agreement in Israel which allows the apartheid regime to continue while giving Palestinians the minimum possible, in Putin’s mind, would be a win which allows Russia to rejoin “civilization” especially if influential Russian Jews lobby for this in DC. I think this is Putin’s idea.
He still may not have realized that the Collective Waste treats nobody else as an equal.
Posted by: pq | Mar 10 2024 22:25 utc | 33
I think Russia has been asked to take a back-seat by the Axis-of-Resistance, including Iran. Russia and Iran recently signed a mutual security deal.
Arabic resistance want and need to take “point”, they have prepared for years and like Russia in Ukraine, moving very slow up the escalation ladder to maintain ‘escalation dominance and increase attrition on US/Israel, as well as pressure.
Israel keeps poking Hezbollah, but every time Hezbollah retaliates, its a little more painful punch than the week before. Currently focussing on targets in the Golan. Similarly with Yemen and Iraqi groups. The latter have been harrassing Haifa, I suspect they are not getting much sleep there with sirens & power grid failures going off at odd times.
Meanwhile, USUKIS is getting drained, economically, militarily etc but also internally. Social unrest is building in Israel and cracks in the Cabinet starting to appear.
I suspect Russia and Iran, are both holding as reserves until, or if, all else fails, or plans have to change. Plan B or C so to speak. To be called in as a last resort.
Though I understand why so many of us are getting frustrated, not just individually, but some countries like South Africa too.
Posted by: Rain | Mar 11 2024 9:31 utc | 70
https://www.pcbs.gov.ps/default.aspx
Useful statistical site of Palestinian government since Oct 7 as of 9 March 2024
Killed:G 30,960 WB 425
Medics killed: 364
Journalists killed 132
UN staff killed 152 (no investigation on the UN staff killed but only on those tortured by Israel into fake confessions)
Missing 7,800
Injured G+WB 77,174
Detainees aka HOSTAGES: G + WB 11,490
That’s almost 128,000 among dead, injured, missing and kidnapped.
A reminder:
24 Feb 2022: Russia starts SMO on the grounds that people of Donbass are being genocided
25 Feb 2022: Ukraine goes squealing to ICJ saying no such thing happening and Russia must STOP
16 Mar 2022 ICJ orders Russia to STOP SMO exactly as Ukraine requested stating
-have not investigated the merits of the case
-even if genocide happening, invading is “probably” not the best way of stopping it
-in the meanwhile we order Russia to STOP because of concern for Ukrainian civilians
ICJ: 20 days to fulfil Ukraine’s request.
South Africa vs Israel
Dec 29: RSA’s files extensive application under Genocide Convention. The first request to ICJ is to order Israel to STOP all military operations.
Another request is that Israel report back in a week.
Jan 26: ICJ denies the first and main request to RSA despite the tens of thousands dead by this point.
Instead it orders a half assed provisional measure: Israel please go ahead and kill all you want only NOT under the scope of the Genocide Convention. Please kill OUTSIDE the scope of the Genocide Convention.
ICJ orders Israel to report back in a month.
On Jan 26, ICJ starts with a condemnation of Hamas on Oct 7 and in fact the ONLY thing that the ICJ throws into the report in plain English is to tell Hamas to release the Israeli hostages which was never even part of the case. No mention of Palestinian hostages.
RSA had asked for 9 detailed provisional orders on Dec 29 and the ICJ issued only half assed versions of some of them.
Feb 12: RSA requests additional measures. ICJ scratches its backside.
Feb 26: Israel submits its secret report which is sent to RSA. We can imagine that it has a KHAMAS TUNNEL INSIDE IT.
Mar 6: RSA submits ano other urgent request to the ICJ
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240306-wri-01-00-en.pdf
South Africa requests the indication, clarification and/or modification of the following
provisional measures:
1. All participants in the conflict must ensure that all fighting and hostilities come to an
immediate halt, and that all hostages and detainees are released immediately.
2. All Parties to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
must, forthwith, take all measures necessary to comply with all of their obligations under the
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
3. All Parties to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
must, forthwith, refrain from any action, and in particular any armed action or support thereof,
which might prejudice the right of the Palestinians in Gaza to be protected from acts of genocide
and related prohibited acts, or any other rights in respect of whatever judgment the Court may
render in the case, or which might aggravate or extend the dispute before the Court or make it
more difficult to resolve.
4. The State of Israel shall take immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of
urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance to address famine and starvation and
the adverse conditions of life faced by Palestinians in Gaza, by:
(a) immediately suspending its military operations in Gaza;
(b) lifting its blockade of Gaza;
(c) rescinding all other existing measures and practices that directly or indirectly have
the effect of obstructing the access of Palestinians in Gaza to humanitarian assistance and
basic services; and
(d) ensuring the provision of adequate and sufficient food, water, fuel, shelter,
clothing, hygiene and sanitation requirements, alongside medical assistance, including
medical supplies and support.
5. The State of Israel shall submit an open report to the Court on all measures taken to give
effect to all provisional measures ordered by the Court to date, within one month as from the
date of this Order.
Where is the ICJ right now? Since Feb 5 we have a different composition.
In theory they are “independent”. But I counted eight as being bonadide supporters of genocide.
Uganda, Slovakia, France, Japan, Germany, Australia, US, Romania
India ?
(Why is the US on the ICJ anyway if it does not accept jurisdiction)
imho, the ICJ orders of Jan 26 were a pile of steaming legal shite if compared to the unequivocal language to Russia. Still, a historic win for South Africa and humanity as the case was not thrown out as Israel wanted.
So when are they going to emerge from the Khamas tunnel and respond to RSA?
Posted by: pq | Mar 11 2024 9:45 utc | 71
PQ,
Wasn‘t the ICJ report/opinion in mid-Feb rather damning of the Likud‘s response to the provisional measures (preventing genocide) ?
Posted by: Exile | Mar 11 2024 10:37 utc | 72
“De-dollarizatiin is indeed what will bring peace.”
Posted by: Exile | Mar 11 2024 7:00 utc | 58
Amen.
And its happening-that’s why the Empire seems so reckless in their war ‘policy’ – they know their time is up at the Hegemon if dollar dies
Haiti is another Anglo-American “innovation” on the scale of tragedy (perhaps greater) than what we see in Palestine.
Let’s hope these two stress-points of the Imperial Spider’s Web collapse at the same time and bring the entire f___g abomination down.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 11 2024 7:57 utc | 64
I don’t know about that; in the 1700’s Haiti was a French colony. In the Haiti revolution (1791-1804)the British tried to conquer the country in 1793, failed ; in 1800 Napoleon sent General Leclerc (who was married to Napoleon’s sister, the beautiful Pauline)with 23,000 French troops to reconquer Haiti, Leclerc wanted a genocide but died of yellow fever in 1802.
France was the first to recognize the country’s independence in 1804.
Haiti, for whatever reason, is fiercely independent and every Western power has been unable to conquer the country
“The Haitian Revolution has often been described as the largest and most successful slave rebellion in the Western Hemisphere. Enslaved people initiated the rebellion in 1791 and by 1803 they had succeeded in ending not just slavery but French control over the colony. The Haitian Revolution, however, was much more complex, consisting of several revolutions going on simultaneously. These revolutions were influenced by the French Revolution of 1789, which would come to represent a new concept of human rights, universal citizenship, and participation in government.
In the 18th century, Saint Domingue, as Haiti was then known, had become France’s wealthiest overseas colony, generating more revenue for France than all 13 North American colonies for Great Britain. This wealth came largely because of the island’s production of sugar, coffee, indigo, and cotton generated by an enslaved labor force. ….
Led by former slave Toussaint l’Overture, the enslaved would act first, rebelling against the planters on August 21, 1791. By 1792 they controlled a third of the island. Despite reinforcements from France, the area of the colony held by the rebels grew as did the violence on both sides. Before the fighting ended 100,000 of the 500,000 blacks and 24,000 of the 40,000 whites were killed. Nonetheless the former slaves managed to stave off both the French forces and the British who arrived in 1793 to conquer the colony, and who withdrew in 1798 after a series of defeats by l’Overture’s forces. By 1801 l’Overture expanded the revolution beyond Haiti, conquering the neighboring Spanish colony of Santo Domingo (present-day Dominican Republic). He abolished slavery in the Spanish-speaking colony and declared himself Governor-General for life over the entire island of Hispaniola. Haitian control of Santo Domingo lasted until 1844.” (1)
1. https://www.blackpast.org/global-african-history/haitian-revolution-1791-1804/
“I think Russia has been asked to take a back-seat by the Axis-of-Resistance, including Iran. Russia and Iran recently signed a mutual security deal.
Arabic resistance want and need to take “point”, they have prepared for years and like Russia in Ukraine, moving very slow up the escalation ladder to maintain ‘escalation dominance and increase attrition on US/Israel, as well as pressure.
Israel keeps poking Hezbollah, but every time Hezbollah retaliates, its a little more painful punch than the week before. Currently focusing on targets in the Golan. Similarly with Yemen and Iraqi groups. The latter have been harassing’s Haifa, I suspect they are not getting much sleep there with sirens & power grid failures going off at odd times.
Meanwhile, USUKIS is getting drained, economically, militarily etc but also internally. Social unrest is building in Israel and cracks in the Cabinet starting to appear.
I suspect Russia and Iran, are both holding as reserves until, or if, all else fails, or plans have to change. Plan B or C so to speak. To be called in as a last resort.
Though I understand why so many of us are getting frustrated, not just individually, but some countries like South Africa too.”
Posted by: Rain | Mar 11 2024 9:31 utc | 69
Excellent analysis, thanks.
Israel must surely be blamed for the tragedy unfolding in Gaza, but why doesn’t Egypt allow people in danger – mostly children – to be taken into Egypt and be taken care of? Allowing Gaza Palestinians to temporarily take refuge in Egypt would save them. Isn’t Egypt to be partly blamed for this tragedy? Is politics more important than the lives of people?
Posted by: Sertorius | Mar 11 2024 11:15 utc | 76
Posted by: Rain | Mar 11 2024 9:31 utc | 69
Excellent analysis, thanks.
Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 10:58 utc | 74
Russia early on stated plainly they needed unity in the Arab world before making a move. They also need unity in the Palestinian world. Very recently most Palestinian Moscow requires unity. factions were brought together for a meeting in Moscow, all bar the Vichy Abbas i believe.
They only step in when there is unity.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 11:16 utc | 77
Posted by: Sertorius | Mar 11 2024 11:15 utc | 75
If the Palestinians leave for Egypt then they will never again be allowed into Gaza. It’s a no-win situation for Egypt.
Posted by: Afro | Mar 11 2024 11:44 utc | 78
@Exile 71
This is how the ICJ responded to the first RSA urgent request.
It is so vague. I repeat there is nothing stopping the ICJ from saying: Israel must stop all military operations in Gaza. They always start by saying how dire everything is. Then they say: Israel please be nice.
Others may interpret differently but I am disgusted. I think this the result of 8 Vs 7.
THE HAGUE, 16 February 2024. In the case concerning Application of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in the Gaza Strip (South Africa v. Israel),the Court, having duly considered South Africa’s letter dated 12 February 2024 and Israel’s
observations thereon received on 15 February 2024, took the following decision, which was communicated to the Parties today by a letter from the Registrar:
“The Court notes that the most recent developments in the Gaza Strip, and in Rafah in particular, ‘would exponentially increase what is already a humanitarian
nightmare with untold regional consequences’, as stated by the United Nations Secretary-General (Remarks to the General Assembly on priorities for 2024 (7 Feb. 2024)).
This perilous situation demands immediate and effective implementation of the provisional measures indicated by the Court in its Order of 26 January 2024, which are applicable throughout the Gaza Strip, including in Rafah, and does not demand the indication of additional provisional measures.
The Court emphasizes that the State of Israel remains bound to fully comply with its obligations under the Genocide Convention and with the said Order, including by ensuring the safety and security of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.”
Posted by: Pq | Mar 11 2024 11:59 utc | 79
Russia early on stated plainly they needed unity in the Arab world before making a move. They also need unity in the Palestinian world. Very recently most Palestinian Moscow requires unity. factions were brought together for a meeting in Moscow, all bar the Vichy Abbas i believe.
They only step in when there is unity.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2024 11:16 utc | 76
“Unity” is a huge distraction from application of the law.
I’ll take Russia seriously when they insist on IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION OF UN 194 RIGHT OF RETURN. And of course an immediate and unconditional end to the occupation. Show me one statement from Putin or Lavrov on these two issues.
Unity is good but people are missing the point:
1. the population of Gaza is starving
2. There are 700 checkpoints in West Bank and nobody can move around. Hundreds are being injured and killed in daily attacks.
3. Some of the most popular Palestinian leaders are in prison.
What is more urgent? Stopping the genocide or “unity”? How can you even think to discuss unity?
I repeat the Russian ICJ submission shows it to be a dishonest broker.
While the Global South asked for an immediate and unconditional end to the occupation and for the right of return, Russia sympathized with Israel and advocated for a return to “negotiation”.
Palestinians need the law to be applied. So either Russia lied in its ICJ submission or it is lying now.
Keep in mind that Russia has been pro Israel for 20+ years. It doesn’t matter what the Israeli clown at the UN says. The room is empty when he speaks.
Unity is great. But it’s stupid to ask for unity in the middle of a livestreamed genocide.
Unity or no unity, UN 194 needs to be implemented. Then Palestine is already more than halfway there.
Posted by: Pq | Mar 11 2024 12:17 utc | 80
why doesn’t Egypt allow people in danger – mostly children – to be taken into Egypt and be taken care of?
Posted by: Sertorius | Mar 11 2024 11:15 utc | 75
First they have to contact Polish specialists to advise on how to build and maintain. It has to be relatively big.
@Posted by: Rain | Mar 11 2024 9:31 utc | 69
That could upset Bibi, which is not possible. Discussions and talks will be, other than that, nothing. Exactly the same story is with China. Both Russia and China abstained at UNSC (tass.com/world/1730839). Russia did it while they get their pipes and bridges blown up, but love for Bibi is on a higher level. Previously China said they’re ready to protect international shipping routes (tass.com/economy/1730077), if you know what “protect” means. So you can keep waiting, but it’s a lot more probable that UNSC will unanimously approve a little bombing of Yemen soon
Posted by: rk | Mar 11 2024 12:25 utc | 81
PQ –
Thank you for posting and answering. The key quote from the 16.Feb ICJ is this;
This perilous situation demands immediate and effective implementation of the provisional measures indicated by the Court in its Order of 26 January 2024, which are applicable throughout the Gaza Strip, including in Rafah, and does not demand the indication of additional provisional measures.
Comment – “immediate and effective” are forceful terms, especially since the core provisional measure was stop killing Palestinians. Therefore, I’d argue the ICJ has done it job. It now up to the various governments to 1) implement sanctions and 2) perhaps planning a peacekeeper force to prevent genocide in the Levant.
These do not take the UNSC to act, it’s possible either as a UNGA body or BRICs or even individual states.
Posted by: Exile | Mar 11 2024 12:38 utc | 82
…… Last week it happened that God and the United States Treasury managed to underwrite a record issue of Israel Government bonds to continue the war against the Arabs in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq – and Iran if necessary.
https://johnhelmer.net/
Posted by: swiss | Mar 11 2024 12:42 utc | 83
Don -48 – I was referring to the African slave trade of 1500 AD onward, not the Pagan slave traders of the era before 1000 AD, give me a break please, and I will have a Proper 12 on the rocks………..
and yes St. Patrick and St. Bridget were both held as slaves at one point in their early lives……read Seamus McManus “The Story of the Irish Race”, Devin-Adair, NYC, 1921, 1978……..
but the Irish were not involved in the African slave trade 1500 to 1860, that was the work of the Brits and the Dutch…….with a few American colonists thrown in for measure…….
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Mar 11 2024 12:55 utc | 84
Don – I might add that the Irish Catholic electorate roundly defeated the far left radical amendments proposed by the disgraced Irish PM Leo Varadkar.
These amendments would have removed the sanctity of motherhood, and their mention from the Irish Constitution of 1937. The movement to make these radical changes was funded by NGO’s funded by Georgiev Soros and backed by Leo.
Both were rejected, and yes a reasonable center right majority does exist in Ireland, and is now on the rise.
Conor McGregor for President?
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Mar 11 2024 12:59 utc | 85
Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 10:56 utc | 73
It is the Anglo-American Empire which immiserates the current incarnation of Haiti.
The French were defeated long ago. Despite the fact that those bastards continued raining down misery one what might have been a proud and successful African nation today:
In July 1825, the French King, Charles X, sent an armed flotilla of warships to Haiti with the message that the young nation would have to pay France 150 million francs to secure its independence, or suffer the consequences.
Can you imagine something that immoral?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 11 2024 13:23 utc | 86
https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1766800385560265150
Posted by: Menz | Mar 11 2024 9:08 utc | 67
============
Thanks for that link.
I listened to the whole interview with the Haitian American Joseph Mathieu, and it is worthwhile to listen to the end.
One thing is that the date of this interview is unclear to me. Was it during the 1026 campaign, or is it recent?
Maybe skipping over the Clinton campaign stuff (even if I agree with it) near the end from Mathieu’s info and analysis, listeners must infer a clear overlap between the situations in Haiti and Gaza: resource theft and immesration of people who actually possess the resources to fund their own development if they are just left alone to pursue their own self-determination.
Clintons = corporate-crony resource thievery and dedemocratization and immiseration
Zionists = Ethnic cleansing and resource theft and genocide
Mathieu mentions a website but I couldn’t find it.
Posted by: Jane | Mar 11 2024 13:32 utc | 87
Sorry, that was supposed to be
“Was it during the 2016 campaign, or is it recent? ”
Posted by: Jane | Mar 11 2024 13:33 utc | 88
Posted by: Afro | Mar 11 2024 11:44 utc | 77
It’s Egyptian inconvenience against saving thousands of people, mainly children. Which should have precedence?…
Posted by: Sertorius | Mar 11 2024 14:16 utc | 89
Posted by: canuck | Mar 11 2024 10:56 utc | 73
“It is the Anglo-American Empire which immiserates the current incarnation of Haiti.”
“The French were defeated long ago. Despite the fact that those bastards continued raining down misery one what might have been a proud and successful African nation today:
In July 1825, the French King, Charles X, sent an armed flotilla of warships to Haiti with the message that the young nation would have to pay France 150 million francs to secure its independence, or suffer the consequences.
Can you imagine something that immoral?”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 11 2024 13:23 utc | 85
You are confused.
I posted said that the seeds of Haitian independence and their ability to remain independent and scornful of the West was sown many years ago by the French.
So you have just confirmed by idea.
So
@Tobias Cole #83
This is getting tiresome … so I repeat my empirical response @ 48 … READ IT .. END.
Finally, a spot of History for the ‘blindly pious’ Hibernian!
The Irish and the Atlantic slave trade
https://www.historyireland.com/the-irish-and-the-atlantic-slave-trade/
Worth reading. St. Patrick, of course, was a ‘ Welsh slave’ – allegedly brought to Ireland by an Irish slave-trader named ‘Cole’ [anti-Annals of St. Tobias, Vol. XXIII]
b-arman – a large Hennessy please – and have one yourself.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 11 2024 0:51 utc | 48
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 11 2024 14:21 utc | 91
Don -48 – I was referring to the African slave trade of 1500 AD onward, not the Pagan slave traders of the era before 1000 AD, give me a break please, and I will have a Proper 12 on the rocks………..
and yes St. Patrick and St. Bridget were both held as slaves at one point in their early lives……read Seamus McManus “The Story of the Irish Race”, Devin-Adair, NYC, 1921, 1978……..
but the Irish were not involved in the African slave trade 1500 to 1860, that was the work of the Brits and the Dutch…….with a few American colonists thrown in for measure…….
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Mar 11 2024 12:55 utc | 83
Actually here is the nations in order of volume in the Atlantic slave trade:
“The major Atlantic slave trading nations, in order of trade volume, were Portugal, Britain, Spain, France, the Netherlands, the United States, and Denmark.” (1)
Posted by: Exile | Mar 11 2024 12:38 utc | 81
I sincerely hope you are right and indeed it is important for the world to put the most positive interpretation on the orders. I absolutely agree with your point. Since Israel doesn’t care about the ICJ, it’s perception that is most important.
The issue in the courtroom is that the original wording of the orders deliberatly provides Israel with a legal loophole to TRY and squirm out of later in the game.(not me saying so, it was a law prof from Brown who was on Electronic Intifada).
Compare:
“Israel shall take all measures within its power to prevent the commission of all acts within the scope of Article II of this Convention, in particular: (a) killing members of the group;”
TO
“The Russian Federation shall immediately suspend the military operations that it commenced on 24 February 2022 in the territory of Ukraine;”
It would be much easier to harass the US and European arms suppliers to Israel if it had just been order to stop military ops rather than “prevent deaths under art II of GC”.
…
why doesn’t Egypt allow people in danger – mostly children – to be taken into Egypt and be taken care of?
Posted by: Sertorius | Mar 11 2024 11:15 utc | 75
It’s not in Egypt’s hands. The permission has to be given by Israel. Some of the children are nowhere near Rafah. They would need safe passage and transport from wherever they are.
Some children have been evacuated. Jordan and UAE have set up field hospitals. The UAE has set up a prosthetic limb centre. Still it’s a drop in the bucket.
https://www.dubaieye1038.com/news/local/uae-opens-prosthetic-limb-centre-in-gaza/#:~:text=The%20UAE%20Field%20Hospital%20in,and%20rehabilitation%20of%20the%20injured.
For decades, even before Oct 7, holding up ambulances at checkpoints for critical patients and denying Gazans the right to go to WB for treatment was a favourite Israeli death tool:
https://efe.com/en/salud/2023-09-13/400-gaza-children-denied-permission-by-israel-to-leave-for-medical-treatment-ngo-says/
The testimony from doctors is too unbearable even to listen to.
Posted by: pq | Mar 11 2024 14:33 utc | 93
Don 48
The first asientos for slave trading, by the Spanish Crown, in the early 16th C, were given to Portuguese–many of them Marranos.
for instance,
see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Rodrigues_Lamego
For an explanation of the Spanish reliance on Portuguese to procure the slaves needed to work plantations and mines, see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiento_de_Negros
. . . The Asiento system was established following Spanish settlement in the Caribbean when the indigenous population was undergoing demographic collapse and the Spanish needed another source of labour. Initially, a few Christian Africans born in Iberia were transported to the Caribbean. But as the indigenous demographic collapse was ongoing and opponents of the Spanish exploitation of indigenous labour grew, including that of Bartolomé de Las Casas, the young Habsburg king Charles I of Spain allowed for the direct importation of slaves from Africa (bozales) to the Caribbean. The first asiento for selling slaves was drawn up in August 1518, granting a Flemish favourite of Charles, Laurent de Gouvenot, a monopoly on importing enslaved Africans for eight years with a maximum of 4,000. Gouvenot promptly sold his licence to the treasurer of the Casa de la Contratación de Indias and three subcontractors, Genoese merchants in Andalusia, for 25,000 ducats.[14][15] The Casa de Contratación in Seville controlled both trade and immigration to the New World, excluding Jews, conversos, Muslims, and foreigners. African slaves were considered merchandise, and their imports were regulated by the crown.[16] The Spanish crown collected a duty on each “pieza”, and not on each individual slave delivered.[17] Spain had neither direct access to the African sources of slaves nor the ability to transport them, so the asiento system was a way to ensure a legal supply of Africans to the New World, which brought revenue to the Spanish crown.[18]
Portuguese monopoly
For the Spanish crown, the asiento was a source of profit. Haring says, “The asiento remained the settled policy of the Spanish government for controlling and profiting from the slave trade.”[5] . . .
Initially, since Portugal had unimpeded rights in West Africa via its 1494 treaty, it dominated the European slave trade of Africans. Before the onset of the official asiento in 1595, when the Spanish monarch also ruled Portugal in the Iberian Union (1580–1640), the Spanish fiscal authorities gave individual asientos to merchants, primarily from Portugal, to bring slaves to the Americas. For the 1560s most of these slaves were obtained in the Upper Guinea area, especially in the Sierra Leone region where there were many wars associated with the Mandé invasions.
Following the establishment of the Portuguese colony of Angola in 1575, and the gradual replacement of São Tomé by Brazil as the primary producer of sugar, Angolan interests came to dominate the trade, and it was Portuguese financiers and merchants who obtained the larger-scale, comprehensive asiento that was established in 1595 during the period of the Iberian Union. The asiento was extended to the importation of African slaves to Brazil, with those holding asientos for the Brazilian slave trade often also trading slaves in Spanish America. Spanish America was a major market for African slaves, including many of whom exceeded the quota of the asiento license and were illegally sold. From the period between 1595 and 1622, approximately half of all imported slaves were destined for Mexico.[20] Most smuggled slaves were not brought by freelance traders.[21]
Angolan dominance of the trade was pronounced after 1615 when the governors of Angola, starting with Bento Banha Cardoso, allied with Imbangala mercenaries to wreak havoc on the local African powers. Many of these governors also held the contract of Angola as well as the asiento, thus insuring their interests. Shipping registers from Vera Cruz and Cartagena show that as many as 85% of the slaves arriving in Spanish ports were from Angola, brought by Portuguese ships. In 1637 the Dutch West India Company employed Portuguese merchants in the trade.[22] The earlier asiento period came to an end in 1640 when Portugal revolted against Spain, though even then the Portuguese continued to supply Spanish colonies.
Dutch, French and British competition
In the 1650s after Portugal achieved its independence from Spain, Spain denied the asiento to the Portuguese, whom it considered rebels.[23] . . .
Altogether a fascinating story/entry worth reading in full for a rounder picture of the slave trade—including quite a few illustrations and maps.
The modern Anglo lens seems to leave out quite a lot of the history of the slave trade and its participants, even when it comes to the Atlantic slave trade.
The subject seems OT, but since someone brought it up, this seems like good info.
Posted by: Jane | Mar 11 2024 14:59 utc | 94
@ Jane #93
Yes, the economic history of the Atlantic slave-trade is eye-opening – the foundation of many nations wealth – and how the ‘norm’ of slaves as ‘merchandise’ became institutionalised. The colonial capitalism of the era.
Ta for response.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 11 2024 15:19 utc | 95
>>The modern Anglo lens seems to leave out quite a lot of the history of the slave trade… for the self-evident reason that the powers that be are pushing the guilt trip model as a means of social control.
Posted by: Jmaas | Mar 11 2024 15:30 utc | 96
There seems to be a concensus that Trump will be worse than Biden on Palestine. He recently made a menacing comment’”Finish the Problem” which appears to confirm Biden’s second coming of Hitler State of the Union address. Can someone please provide a plausible scenario of what being worse than Biden looks like? Is it 3 genocides rather than 2, is it a nuclear bomb on a Palestinian refuge camp, will the empty promises of peace be even more hollow than Biden’s? Surely it has dawned on our astute audience that this could be another talking point?
Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 11 2024 15:57 utc | 97
” Iranian soldiers have been seen in Gaza patrolling and distributing Aid at distribution sites they control.
https://youtu.be/8SME0ZAP_Ok?si=mgINDj20IuxbbtGx
Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 11 2024 2:46 utc | 53
Waste of time video.
Promised video of Iranian Soldiers, shows one brief clip of Red-Crescent civilian ladelling out food to starving children.
Israel & US neocons have been screaming “Iran Iran Iran!” since this started. Video reveals the entire proof is some israeli went on TV and said “Iran Iran Iran!”
But the video narrator speaks in a British Accent, so the non-news must be authoritative.”
Posted by: retroflecks | Mar 11 2024 7:20 utc | 59
I included your whole comment because it is correct in each detail. In addition I also don’t believe Israeli propaganda. Any statement they make requires proof.
I would add that this channel takes 10 minutes to say something that only needs one. They appear to adopt the style and presenter as a means to remain on YouTube.
Having said all that, they have an excellent record of being on top of current events regarding the resistance.
What I would like to know is if there are other indications of Iran’s presence and the possibility of them working with Egypt covertly.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 11 2024 15:59 utc | 98
Thanks folks you have included huge amounts of information on Haiti and the Atlantic slave trade.
When I did limited Research into slavery I was absolutely stunned by its history. The Atlantic slave trade was but a drop in the bucket. There was huge movement of slaves Eastward out of the Middle East and Africa.
And there is clear evidence of modern day slavery being practiced across globe. One estimate I read 60,000 slaves in the US.
I present all of this not as a rationalization or excuse for those involved in the Atlantic slave trade. The point is that slavery, like genocidal Behavior, is a human trait. It’s a survival trait and it’s origin is biological.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 11 2024 16:21 utc | 99
The Palestinian town of Jericho has named a street after US Air Force member Aaron Bushnell, who set himself on fire outside the Israeli embassy in Washington to protest against the war in Gaza, according to The Guardian.
Bushnell died on 25 February after setting himself on fire in protest against the war, citing the US’s complicity in Israel’s killing of tens of thousands of Palestinians.
Before his self-immolation, which he livestreamed on Twitch, he announced he would “no longer be complicit in genocide”. He also shouted “free Palestine” as he was on fire. He died shortly afterwards.
Abdul Karim Sidr, the mayor of Jericho, said that Bushnell “sacrificed everything” for Palestinians.
“We didn’t know him, and he didn’t know us. There were no social, economic or political ties between us. What we share is a love for freedom and a desire to stand against these attacks [on Gaza],” the mayor said.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/jericho-names-street-after-us-soldier-who-set-himself-fire-protest?nid=346961&topic=Israel-Palestine%2520war&fid=505801
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Note: Jericho is in the West Bank.
Posted by: teri | Mar 11 2024 16:24 utc | 100