Palestine Open Thread 2024-069
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Posted by b on March 5, 2024 at 19:11 UTC | Permalink
next page »As you should be,
Anyone with any integrity and morals should be sick of what the ruling class is doing to innocent people.
It's time for the great reset but not the kind Shwaub and his bumboys are striving for!
Posted by: Bill Jackson | Mar 5 2024 20:03 utc | 2
^There are probably people here who have been feeling that way for longer than you or I have been alive.
Posted by: Rae | Mar 5 2024 20:05 utc | 3
In the past I’ve been able to wait till students bring up a controversial topic then I can address it (“I was just trying to answer them honestly, officer”).
But the kids are not talking about Palestine as far as I can tell - I don’t think Aaron’s sacrifice even came on to their radars.
So today I am going to start science lessons by asking students what they know about the dodgy proxy wars and genocides that our government is currently supporting. Fingers crossed?!
Posted by: Rae | Mar 5 2024 20:15 utc | 4
In response to
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^There are probably people here who have been feeling that way for longer than you or I have been alive.
Posted by: Rae | Mar 5 2024 20:05 utc | 3
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75 and still alive!
I have been watching the shit show for over 50 years and happy to see our current civilization war moving along.....the genie is not going back into the bottle this time.
The Cradle has a new posting up by Kit Klarenberg with link below
https://thecradle.co/articles/the-united-kingdom-zionisms-covert-nerve-center
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 5 2024 20:16 utc | 5
I want to talk not with info and facts but with emotions in reaction to those. ... I'm sick of mild protests and marchs, I'm sick of useless donations, even though I donated to UNRWA, I feel money donations won't make a change, to stop a bleeding you don't put tissues on the blood.I don't know how you people feel but I'm really becoming too sick of these idiots murderers.
Posted by: Animal | Mar 5 2024 19:56 utc | 1
Right there with you. I've donated, written countless letters, marched, all of it. Everything just gets worse. The monsters are ascendant and have been my whole life.
Posted by: Rae | Mar 5 2024 20:15 utc | 4
Maybe share with them what Palestinian kids are currently learning, and compare themselves? A better hook?
Cheers, Ron
Posted by: Ron | Mar 5 2024 20:27 utc | 7
HEZBOLLAH: We bombed Israel with dozens of missiles in response to the targeting of a civilian home and the killing of a woman, her husband, and her son in Hula.
ISRAELI MEDIA: The city of Kiryat Shmona, northwest of the Galilee Finger (northern Israel), was being attacked by about 70 missiles, while its mayor declared a state of emergency “and asked residents to leave immediately.”
Israel running out of hotel rooms for internal refugees - tourism tanking!
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 5 2024 20:47 utc | 9
Posted by: phenon | Mar 5 2024 20:29 utc | 8
Sadly, no. It's always darkest midway between dusk and dawn so I think we have a few years left to watch the shitstorm building.
Posted by: hedlykarok | Mar 5 2024 20:48 utc | 10
The US and its evil minions; "We had to kill tens of millions in order to keep really evil people from killing thousands."
Posted by: jef | Mar 5 2024 21:21 utc | 11
FIDAE 2024 an Air Show at Santiago de Chile will not be attended by representatives from Israel. There is an statement released by the government of Chile.
Posted by: Roberto | Mar 5 2024 21:35 utc | 12
Vote with your pocketbook - boycott all entities that are supporting genocide.
Posted by: Exile | Mar 5 2024 21:44 utc | 13
The Palestainians will be removed—PERIOD.
No debate, no compromise, no mercy, no concern for the tears and whining of MOA.
If Westerners care so much they can bring the Palestainians to their countries and provide for them.
Meanwhile the IDF continues to evict the Palestainian squatters from the Jewish land they’re trespassing on.
Posted by: Palestainian Remover | Mar 5 2024 21:50 utc | 14
Posted by: Palestainian Remover | Mar 5 2024 21:50 utc | 14
Haha...too stupid to even spell correctly.
Posted by: hedlykarok | Mar 5 2024 21:57 utc | 15
60 prime seconds of Mick Wallace Irish MEP
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S5KIZmK4mbs
Ah heck - let's repeat for another minute
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S5KIZmK4mbs
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 5 2024 22:01 utc | 17
"the Jewish land"
(?)
Poland-Ukraine
First of all, the lands of La Mancha in Spain do not belong to the readers of Don Quixote de la Mancha. Nor do the lands that once belonged to the Vatican belong to a group of fanatical Argentine Catholics.
Secondly, you confuse (1) the Hebrews who were Arab tribes (2) an Aramaic ruling class of Persian imperial times (3) the Yehudim of the first century in those lands: the one who built the Great Temple was an Arab king: Herod the Great, he was not a rabbi of (4) the Polish, Ukrainian, Lithuanian and Byelorussian Yiddish people. Those who assassinated the Swedish diplomat Folke were of the Yiddish people.
Posted by: Simon | Mar 5 2024 22:18 utc | 18
IDF getting pummeled -blind rage atrocities against women and children is all the IDF is capable of.
Blind Rage is a sure sign of a defeated and demoralized military
Posted by: Exile | Mar 5 2024 22:20 utc | 19
The Zionists who founded "our (bloody) colonial project" (Vladimir Jabotinsky) were rabid anti-Semites, and the Likud comes from the Irgun.
The Zionists are anti-Semitic fanatics who hate the roots of the Hebrews and would like "the land of Canaan" to be an island somewhere between Denmark and Norway.
"Yahweh" is an Arab deity coming from the South (Song of Deborah, and Archeology). Moses' father-in-law is an Arab priest (Exodus) "Mount Sinai is in Arabia" (Saul) and the Great Temple was built by an Arab king: Herod the Great.
Posted by: Simon | Mar 5 2024 22:37 utc | 20
The death rate per month of Gazan's per population is higher than any country in WWII including Poland or USSR.
Posted by: phenon | Mar 5 2024 22:50 utc | 21
No companies from Israel at FIDAE 2024. The Santiago de Chile international air show will not be attended by israelies companies according to a communiqué issued by the Chilean Ministry of Defense a few minutes ago.
Posted by: Roberto | Mar 5 2024 23:03 utc | 22
Jeffrey Sachs:
Peace can come through the immediate implementation of the two-state solution, making the admission of Palestine to the United Nations the starting point, not the ending point.
The settlement should follow this order:
(1) establishment of Palestine as 194th member state within two-state solution framework on June 4, 1967 borders;
(2) immediate ceasefire;
(3) release of hostages;
(4) humanitarian assistance;
(5) peacekeepers, disarmament and mutual security; and
(6) negotiation on modalities (settlements, return of refugees, mutually agreed land-swaps, and others; but not boundaries).
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/two-state-solution-gaza-2667433791
Unless they/them/there is one of Guterres' second or third cousins, I think, Pramilla Patten needs to spend more time with they/them/their family.
Posted by: sln2002 | Mar 5 2024 23:14 utc | 24
Israel has been testing robot dogs for recon in Gaza for a few months. How long until they become sniper dogs or suicide bombing dogs.real life battle data is invaluable for this tech that have been under development for a few years
Posted by: Hankster | Mar 5 2024 23:27 utc | 25
Feb 2024
UGANDA disowns their pen pro-israel judge at icj
https://youtu.be/sG5R9IJgadI
Match 2024
ugandia judge get award for ICJ ruling
https://www.monitor.co.ug/uganda/news/national/justice-sebutinde-gets-award-for-icj-ruling--4545812
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Mar 5 2024 23:30 utc | 26
Israel have embarked on Total War against the Palestinians:
Total war is a type of warfare that includes any and all civilian-associated resources and infrastructure as legitimate military targets, mobilises all of the resources of society to fight the war, and gives priority to warfare over non-combatant needs.
The term was coined by a general during the American Civil War and has been defined as "A war that is unrestricted in terms of the weapons used, the territory or combatants involved, or the objectives pursued, especially one in which the laws of war are disregarded."
In the mid-19th century, scholars identified total war as a separate class of warfare. In a total war, the differentiation between combatants and non-combatants diminishes due to the capacity of opposing sides to consider nearly every human, including non-combatants, as resources that are used in the war effort.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_war
Posted by: phenon | Mar 6 2024 0:11 utc | 28
The four dimensions of total war identified by Förster are:
1) Total purposes: The aim of continuous growth of the power of the parties involved and hegemonic visions.
2) Total methods: Similar and common methodologies among countries that intend to increase their spheres of influence.
3) Total mobilisation: Inclusion in the conflict of parties not traditionally involved, such as women and children or individuals who are not part of the armed bodies.
4) Total control: Multisectoral centralisation of the powers and orchestration of the activities of the countries in a small circle of dictators or oligarchs, with cross-functional control over education and culture, media/propaganda, economic, and political activities.
Peccia's contribution of "total change" adds to this framework by emphasising the long-term effects of total war on society.
5) Total change: This includes changes in social attitudes, cultural norms, and political structures, as well as economic and technological developments.
In Peccia's view, total war not only transforms the military and political landscape but also has far-reaching and long-time implications for society as a whole.
Posted by: phenon | Mar 6 2024 0:22 utc | 30
This sounds a lot like Israel today:
Actions that may characterise the post-19th century concept of total war include:
Strategic bombing, as during World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War (Operations Barrel Roll, Rolling Thunder and Linebacker II)
Blockade and sieging of population centres, as with the Allied blockade of Germany and the Siege of Leningrad during the First and Second World Wars
Scorched earth policy, as with the March to the Sea during the American Civil War and the Japanese "Three Alls Policy" during the Second Sino-Japanese War
Commerce raiding, tonnage war, and unrestricted submarine warfare, as with privateering, the German U-boat campaigns of the First and Second World Wars, and the United States submarine campaign against Japan during World War II
Collective punishment, pacification operations, and reprisals against populations deemed hostile, as with the execution and deportation of suspected Communards following the fall of the 1871 Paris Commune or the German reprisal policy targeting resistance movements, insurgents, and Untermenschen such as in France (e.g. Maillé massacre) and Poland during World War II
Industrial warfare, as with all belligerents in their respective home fronts during World War I and World War II
The use of civilians and prisoners of war as forced labour for military operations, as with Japan, USSR and Germany's massive use of forced labourers of other nations during World War II (see Slavery in Japan and forced labour under German rule during World War II
Giving no quarter
Posted by: phenon | Mar 6 2024 0:25 utc | 31
No quarter, during military conflict, implies that combatants would not be taken prisoner, but killed. Since the Hague Convention of 1899, it is considered a war crime; it is also prohibited in customary international law and by the Rome Statute. The Hague Convention of 1907 states that "it is especially forbidden [...] to declare that no quarter will be given".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_quarter
Posted by: phenon | Mar 6 2024 0:27 utc | 32
I agree with Animal. There are many good comments from the barflies today. There is a bit of good news. Nuland is leaving the War er… State Department. Of course I first learned about it from MOA. Cheers!
Posted by: Henry | Mar 6 2024 1:18 utc | 33
Jeffrey Sachs:
Peace can come through the immediate implementation of the two-state solution, making the admission of Palestine to the United Nations the starting point, not the ending point.
Posted by: erichwwk | Mar 5 2024 23:07 utc | 23
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Jeffrey Sachs is a dreamer. A two-state solution is dead, and has been for a long time. How can Palestinians live is such close proximity with the people who murdered their loved ones in an all-out genocide? That is like asking Holocaust survivors to move in with stanch Jew hating Nazis immediately after WWII.
If you paid attention to the ICJ discussions over the last couple of weeks, it is clear that Israel has illegally occupied the State of Palestine since 1948, when a few Israeli Zionist illegally, and with the blessing with only a few UN states, declared a 'State of Israel' exist.
The British had a mandate to defend the people of Palestine as if they were their own people, and it had no authority to give Mandated Palestine to a foreign people, in part or in whole: Neither did the UN. Since no country or people has the right to profit or benefit from the poison fruit of an international crime committed against a sovereign people, with all the rights and privileges of a sovereign people, Israel has got to go, and good riddance.
This would require a war of Biblical proportions, as Israel's allies would then have to face off against the majority of the nations of the world to move the Israelis out. If I were a religious person, I would be very worried: Can you say Armageddon? But in reality, Israel is just another piss ant country with a couple of nuclear bombs and the USA as an ally, get past that and our work is done.
Posted by: Ed | Mar 6 2024 1:28 utc | 34
Ed | Mar 6 2024 1:28 utc | 34
*** But in reality, Israel is just another piss ant country with a couple of nuclear bombs and the USA as an ally, get past that and our work is done.***
Snag being that both have lots of fanatical 5th-columnists in so many countries.
Posted by: Cynic | Mar 6 2024 1:50 utc | 35
Ed | Mar 6 2024 1:28 utc | 34
*** But in reality, Israel is just another piss ant country with a couple of nuclear bombs and the USA as an ally, get past that and our work is done.***
To the best of my knowledge, Israel has never had the ability to build nuclear weapons. You can't do it in the garage. If they do in fact have nuclear weapons, somebody provided them, most likely the US. After all, America loses a nuke or two from time to time. On the other hand, it's equally likely that they have no nukes, just the rumor of nukes.
Posted by: Honzo | Mar 6 2024 2:15 utc | 36
So how fast is the Izzy population dropping from out migration? The economy is dying.
Reasons Ukraine is now failing is that 1/2 or more of its population has left
and there is no economy, no military production, just military attrition and other countries cannot support them, nothing is left to send.
How many months of pressure and Izzy like Ukes will have no economy, 1/2 population, no military equipment, no ammunition, no air defense, air force gone. Part of N. Izzy is now empty. The collapse of the modern Crusade state will happen. There is no more military stuff or $$ to send very soon.
Posted by: Johnny Law | Mar 6 2024 2:17 utc | 37
psychohistorian @5
==================
The Cradle:
"the UK remains international Zionism’s covert nerve center."
A reading of Pappe, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, makes it crystal clear that the Zionist project was always supported by Britain---was, actually, a creation of Britain.
I'm glad that someone is throwing a spotlight on this. I am more and more disgusted by Britain, the more I learn about its ages-old machinations and footsie playing with Jewish financiers, bankers, merchants and satraps in India, and so on. Endless. The umbilical cord should be exposed---and maybe thereby cut.
Per Dr. Ralph Wilde, a credible case exists for Palestinians to demand reparations from Britain.
See his webinar at the Balfour Project (just search for his name in the search box at the site).
Posted by: Jane | Mar 6 2024 2:44 utc | 38
Just up at The Intercept. Leaked US cable from within USAID discusses the catastrophic consequences of the planned (?) Israeli onslaught on Rafah.
https://theintercept.com/2024/03/05/israel-rafah-humanitarian-aid-us-cable/
These psychos are going for the "final solution" and Genocide Joe/Uncle Scam are going to allow, if not help, it to happen.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 6 2024 3:06 utc | 39
Reuters has the following posting title up
CIA are either the decision makers or speak for the decision makers in the US and that is who Russia deals with/communicates with. Putin knew he was speaking directly and publicly to the CIA when talking to Carlson.
US now pushes UN to back 'immediate' Gaza ceasefire to free hostages
the quote
UNITED NATIONS, March 5 (Reuters) - The United States on Tuesday revised language in a draft United Nations Security Council resolution to back "an immediate ceasefire of roughly six-weeks in Gaza together with the release of all hostages," according to the text seen by Reuters.
It is tied to Hamas releasing all hostages.........
The US needs to look like they are doing something other than the obvious support.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 6 2024 3:45 utc | 40
Posted by: Ed | Mar 6 2024 1:28 utc | 34
You shouldn't complain about Jeffrey Sachs. He's one of the good guys. He's done a lot of good for the Palestinians, by the fact that he is heard and received at the UN. Who cares whether his two state solution is workable or not. It's a stage which may still have some political value towards the inevitable end - the departure of the Western colonial settlers.
Posted by: laguerre | Mar 6 2024 3:46 utc | 41
I am clueless what happened there in comment #40 but it posted without me having a chance to edit....sigh...sorry
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 6 2024 3:47 utc | 42
ZH has a posting up with the title
Houthis Offer Safe Passage To Ships Through Red Sea If They Obtain Permit
the quote
And now the Iran-linked Houthis are so confident that they have announced a new system for entry into the Red Sea which they are unilaterally imposing."Ships will have to obtain a permit from Yemen’s Houthi-controlled Maritime Affairs Authority before entering Yemeni waters," according to a Monday statement of Houthi Telecommunications Minister, Misfer Al-Numair.
"(We) are ready to assist requests for permits and identify ships with the Yemeni Navy, and we confirm this is out of concern for their safety," the minister said further, in an official statement carried by the Houthi-run Al Masirah TV.
According to details of the permit plan via Middle East Monitor:
The territorial waters affected by the Yemeni order extend halfway out into the 20-km (12-mile) wide Bab Al-Mandab Strait, the narrow mouth of the Red Sea through which around 15 per cent of the world’s shipping traffic passes on its way to or from the Suez Canal.In normal times, more than a quarter of global container cargo – including apparel, appliances, auto parts, chemicals and agricultural products, like coffee – move via the Suez Canal.
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In the early morning hours of Tuesday, US Central Command posted on social media platform X that MSC Sky II, a container ship operated by MSC Mediterranean Shipping Co., was damaged in a missile attack about 90 miles southeast of the Yemeni city of Aden, as part of the latest Houthi aggression.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 6 2024 3:56 utc | 43
The US needs to look like they are doing something other than the obvious support.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 6 2024 3:45 utc | 40
The US needs to just get through Ramadan, because that is a particularly sensitive time when millions of Muslims are, in essence, mobilizing anyway.
After the holy days are over, of course, then all murderous hell can break loose again.
Six weeks pretty conveniently covers the month of Ramadan.
Posted by: Patrick al-Henrygazh | Mar 6 2024 3:59 utc | 44
Us embassy to Yemen. Comes up with a tweet about how grand usa is giving aid to gaza while ansarallah create an environmental disaster over sinking a ship. Surely this is a onion parody. These guys are so far removed from reality, then we can add for extra hypocrisy the pretence to be honest mediators in peace deals while supplying weapons to one side.
https://twitter.com/USEmbassyYemen/status/1764311604915503400?t=SOYOdeajkd6SNHn68602dQ&s=19
Posted by: Hankster | Mar 6 2024 4:18 utc | 45
After posting @ 44, I saw this.
Yep, Ramadan has them spooked. That's the only thing behind this.
Posted by: Patrick al-Henrygazh | Mar 6 2024 4:18 utc | 46
The IDF needs a 6 week ceasefire to prevent complete breakdown.
Posted by: Exile | Mar 6 2024 4:35 utc | 47
Honzo | Mar 6 2024 2:15 utc | 36
Was established during the JFK Years that the Jewish state went nuclear … Kennedy put tremendous pressure on David Ben Gurion to open up for inspection. Never happened as he was assassinated …
Honzo | Mar 6 2024 2:15 utc | 36
Was established during the JFK Years that the Jewish state went nuclear … Kennedy put tremendous pressure on David Ben Gurion to open up for inspection. Never happened as he was assassinated …
See joint military effort with S Africa on chemical warfare and the nuclear test observed off the coast in South Atlantic.
The “Vela” incident … apartheid states. Ask the French on design and build of Dimona nuclear facilities.
Ramadan has them spooked
Israel’s war cabinet has set deadline for release all hostages by 10 March, the start of Ramadan fast. The IDF will lay waste to Rafah and South Gaza … no one will stop them. See statements by Antony Blinken on visit Qatari PM yesterday. Blinken the messenger boy of the Zionist venture to fulfill Nakba 2.0.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/gantz-israel-will-invade-rafah-if-hostages-not-returned-by-ramadan/
No truth in de Biden-Harris kabuki theater of the past days or weeks … their re-election chance is sinking by the day … Netanyahu hates Democrats (JCPOA) and looks forward to President Trump 2.0
Ramadan has them spooked
Israel’s war cabinet has set deadline for release all hostages by 10 March, the start of Ramadan fast. The IDF will lay waste to Rafah and South Gaza … no one will stop them. See statements by Antony Blinken on visit Qatari PM yesterday. Blinken the messenger boy of the Zionist venture to fulfill Nakba 2.0.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/gantz-israel-will-invade-rafah-if-hostages-not-returned-by-ramadan/
No truth in de Biden-Harris kabuki theater of the past days or weeks … their re-election chance is sinking by the day … Netanyahu hates Democrats (JCPOA) and looks forward to President Trump 2.0
Really chuffed about our lad George Galloway. He will put the plight of Palestine front and center amongst the working and middle class.
In his acceptance speech he talked about keir starner being the left cheek and Sunak being the right cheek of a buttocks that badly needed a spanking. LOL! Rock on George. Go get 'em!
Posted by: Áobh Ó'Sheachnasaigh | Mar 6 2024 6:04 utc | 53
@ Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 6 2024 3:06 utc | 39
thanks for that tom...
Posted by: james | Mar 6 2024 6:57 utc | 54
POLL SHOWS YOUNG AMERICANS’ SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL PLUMMETING
Nearly half of young Americans view Israel’s military operations in Gaza as a genocide. In January, Biden was denounced at several events by protesters chanting “genocide Joe.” To prevent protesters from disrupting rallies, the campaign has raised the price of tickets, withheld the location of events from the public, and avoided college campuses
https://libertarianinstitute.org/news/poll-shows-young-americans-support-for-israel-plummeting/
Question - once a person believes Israel is committing genocide ; is it ever possible that this person changes their views on Israel ?
Posted by: Exile | Mar 6 2024 7:46 utc | 55
fyi,
https://twitter.com/MikeOmerMan/status/1763792170044334273
Mike S. Omer-Man @MikeOmerMan
There was a line in a Hebrew news article yesterday that I can't stop thinking about. US officials told @barakravid that in every conversation in recent weeks they've been warning Israel that it is responsible for the humanitarian disaster taking place in Gaza.
"The senior US official said he was dumbfounded by the response he got from the Israelis: 'They asked me, why is that our problem?' he said. 'I told them they don't understand the situation they're in."
The thing is, Israel has always challenged the US and the world to put their money where their mouth is, and Israel has almost always won that game of chicken.
The stakes are different now but my sense is that most Israelis don't get that either. At this point nothing but cutting off the cash and bombs and UN vetoes could even begin to impart upon them the levels of shock and disbelief and horror with which the world has been watching for months. Shock and disbelief and horror not only at what Israel is doing but at their own governments for allowing it to happen. For not stopping it.
The thing is, nothing will happen and no consequences will be wrought until one man, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., decides that enough is enough. That moment should have come months ago but its unacceptable tardiness only makes it more urgent that it happen today.
Let's be clear, we're long past the point of a ceasefire being enough. There needs to be an international protection force in Gaza — to protect Palestinians from Israel, to ensure they don't die of starvation, to allow the world to deliver critical aid, to make sure that Palestinians who have fled can return to their homes, and to make sure the Israeli army doesn't stay in Gaza, or ever come back.
That should be the new starting point for discussions of "the day after." And the day after must be tomorrow.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 6 2024 8:23 utc | 56
International Security Force in Palestine- srael ?
The only neutral party acceptable to all sides would be the Chinese, southeast Asians, and perhaps the Mongols.
Thinking maybe 350,000 - 500,000 troops on the ground ? The IDF and paramilitaries would need to be de-militarized. The international security force would be paid out of Israeli taxes.
Likely this would be significant savings for the Israeli taxpayer compared to the cost of the IDF. Without the burden of mass conscription and annual weekend warrior duties - the Israeli conomy would boom. Singapore of the Levant !
Finally a lasting peace and security for the Jewish State.
Posted by: Exile | Mar 6 2024 8:38 utc | 57
Of course the genocide in Gaza will go on when US but also Russia support what Israel is doing.
Posted by: james | Mar 6 2024 9:03 utc | 58
michaelj72 | Mar 6 2024 8:23 utc | 56
The Zionist dream … Joe Biden, self-declared Zionist, put himself in this wretched position and all that matters to him is Tuesday 5 November 2024. No sacrifice in human life will be too great.
We’ve seen the Biden-Harris Kabuki theater show on humanitarian aid … strictly PR for the corporate media. Blinken has given the Israeli war cabinet a free hand … the U.S. will not interfere. Gantz was in Washington on “visit”?
See my comment in previous Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 tread ..
Sheryn Omeri KC advising the legal team...very impressive lady:
ABC News follows
Peter Cronau
@PeterCronau
ABC interview with barrister Sheryn Omeri KC on the referral of Australian political leaders to the International Criminal Court.
Acting for over 100 Australian lawyers, Omeri, through the law firm Birchgrove Legal, has referred Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese & key members of his cabinet & Australian parliament to the International Criminal Court.
A communiqué to the court, is accusing them of being accessories to the Israeli genocide occurring in Gaza.
@ABCnewsbreakfast @ABCnews
https://twitter.com/PeterCronau/status/1764989374528413708
Posted by: Menz | Mar 6 2024 9:10 utc | 60
Finally a lasting peace and security for the Jewish State.
Posted by: Exile | Mar 6 2024 8:38 utc | 57
But only after the genocide trials are done, the reparations, the right of return, establishment of a fully sovereign Palestinian State and the hanging of all Zionist war criminals.
Genocide should never be rewarded by security and peace.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 6 2024 9:25 utc | 61
Menz | Mar 6 2035 9;20 utc | 60
Karim Khan of ICC in The Hague? 😂 🤣
Too busy with Kremlin leaders and UA 🥹
Boris 🤥 Johnson appointee LHAO 🫡
In Context
@incontextmedia
BREAKING: Iraqi Resistance strikes Haifa for second time in three days, disabling Israeli power plant and plunging airport into darkness
https://twitter.com/incontextmedia/status/1765174832897954299
Posted by: Menz | Mar 6 2024 9:42 utc | 63
Posted by: Oui | Mar 6 2024 9:38 utc | 62
Agreed but that is no reason not to refer the Aus PM (and others) to the ICC.
Posted by: Menz | Mar 6 2024 9:48 utc | 64
Ali Mortada || علي مرتضى
@aliimortada
Hello my enemies 😆👋
https://twitter.com/aliimortada/status/1764981926358589926
Posted by: Menz | Mar 6 2024 9:53 utc | 65
asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل
@asadabukhalil
BOYCOTTS WORK:
“Starbucks franchise operators across the Middle East and Southeast Asia are losing significant business amid boycotts linked to the Israel-Hamas war, and at least one has started laying off employees.”
https://twitter.com/asadabukhalil/status/1765238662004953318
Posted by: Menz | Mar 6 2024 10:07 utc | 66
Somebody needs to explain to Biden using toy soldiers if necessary that Israel killed its own young IDF students and doesn't care about its own inhabitants. There's no point making conditions about hostages for a ceasefire . It's politics , trying to put the blame on Hamas. Israel never did anything g in good faith.
We in the Christian West forget that respecting your fellow human beings was never in the Talmud , and never a big part of ZioNazism either. Never a part of Thatcher look after No. 1 philosophy nor US colonialism.
Jonathon Cook is right, that gaslighting the Public for protesting about governments breaking g International Law might not work.
If Governments want Total war against Palestinians, the gloves are off, there will be Total war against Israel and all who support them.
Total war means that we the public arm ourselves and shoot the MPs who are vicariously shooting Palestinians.
Total war is never a one-sided occupation. So think carefully.
Do our MPs seriously think they want Total War with their populations?
If so, bring it on. They are few. We are many. The stakes are high. They have declared Total war on any social contract. Sharpen our guillotines .
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 6 2024 11:21 utc | 67
Surah Baqarah . Holy Qur'an
193. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah and worship is for Allah (Alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Adh-dhalimun the transgressors.
194. The sacred month is for the sacred month, and for the prohibited things, there is the Law of Equality. Then whoever transgresses the prohibition against you, you transgress likewise against him. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is with Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V.2:2
If , as USUKIS always do, they continue to fight the Muslims in Ramadhan, then Muslims are commanded to fight back until the rule of Law is established.
All this tripe about Ramadhan creating a need for a ceasefire is just political misinformation so that USUKIS can claim that Hamas is breaking the rules by fighting in Ramadhan.
They won't stop, they never stopped for one second in Ramadhan in Syria, Libya, or any of their other colonial invasions. Ramadhan is irrelevant to fighting until USUKIS stops fighting , starving and raping the Muslims.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 6 2024 11:45 utc | 68
Scathing article at UNZ
The Jews Want You to Watch Them Mass Murdering Little Kids
The longer we sit and watch this slaughter in Gaza – we’ve been watching it for five months now – the more it feels like a big part of the purpose is to desensitize the public to mass murder.
The Jews have killed 2-3% of the Gazan population, and they might end up killing 30-40%. But if the goal was actually to transfer them, it seems they would be using a very different strategy – basically paying Egypt to assist in moving these people across the border, as well as pressuring white countries to take the refugees.
From what we’ve seen, the Jews not only enjoy murdering innocent people, but enjoy showing the world that they are doing this.
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/the-jews-want-you-to-watch-them-mass-murdering-little-kids/
Posted by: ld | Mar 6 2024 11:52 utc | 69
Ed | Mar 6 2024 1:28 utc | 34
*** But in reality, Israel is just another piss ant country with a couple of nuclear bombs and the USA as an ally, get past that and our work is done.***
To the best of my knowledge, Israel has never had the ability to build nuclear weapons. You can't do it in the garage. If they do in fact have nuclear weapons, somebody provided them, most likely the US. After all, America loses a nuke or two from time to time. On the other hand, it's equally likely that they have no nukes, just the rumor of nukes.
Posted by: Honzo | Mar 6 2024 2:15 utc | 36
You are off track , Honzo., France started aiding Israel in building a nucler bom in 1956-Israel, unfortunately, does possess nuclear weapons:
Israel’s political leaders had been interested in developing nuclear weapons since before the foundation of the state, but their active pursuit of them followed the 1955 Czech-Egyptian arms deal, which threatened to overwhelm Israel.1 Israel’s pursuit of a nuclear option was partly the result of an inability to secure an extended deterrent from the US, and partly the traumatic experience of the Holocaust, which caused the Israelis to put a strong emphasis on self-reliance.
France’s diplomatic defeat in the subsequent 1956 Suez War led it to agree to collaborate with Israel and thereby facilitate an Israeli nuclear weapons program.3 France’s motivation was initially commercial — to sell Israel a reactor — but their shared experience with Nazism during the Second World War and of confronting Arab nationalists, of both being defeated during the 1956 Suez crisis, and of both being frozen out of Anglo-American nuclear efforts predisposed them to a joint nuclear effort. However, the actual French decision to build a nuclear weapons infrastructure for Israel was the consequence of determined Israeli lobbying in an extremely fragmentary French executive political structure. Receiving passive executive approval was sufficient for the Zionist sympathetic Gaullist nuclear bureaucracy, but it is highly unlikely that any strong French executive, led by Charles de Gaulle or any other, would have supported a decision to help Israel to the extent it did. French political leaders, as evinced by de Gaulle’s apparent demonstration of regret, made a miscalculation when they agreed to provide nuclear assistance to Israel.(1)
The goal is more polarization of the world, i.e. chosing between China or Nato grid in all: energy, internet, etc.
Maybe the neo Ottoman Sultan and his friends should show a bit of courage, for once.
Posted by: Minaa | Mar 6 2024 12:19 utc | 71
It appears that my Leftist comrades have already lost interest and forgotten about Gaza…after only a few protests, {chuckles}, guess we didn’t really care that much after all {more chuckles}.
Isn’t it funny how we thought walking around and yelling in the streets for a few days would stop the Unstoppable IDF War Machine from crushing the Gazan Terrorists?
Now we Leftists only whine and moan and engage in revenge-porn fantasies at places like MOA, {chuckle-chuckle}!
In a month we won’t even remember how to spell “Gaza”…
Posted by: Oui | Mar 6 2024 12:48 utc | 72
It is a war of the 1% and the USNatoMIC on the rest of the world. AI has allowed them to identify every single meter square that can be profitable and now we are asked to either join or be a target. I havent heard of hackers lately and the way Assange is treated show how dangerous they are considered.
The gov puppets are running out of the little credibility they had, they have exhausted the script of making everything 'sustainable' while actually not giving a f...
Posted by: Minaa | Mar 6 2024 13:06 utc | 73
@ ld | Mar 6 2024 11:52 utc | 69
Agreeing with Mr. Anglin gives me the creeps, but when he’s right, he’s right.
All this talk about “blind rage” attacks as an index of Zio helplessness is nice, but wrong. Committing atrocities is how the “Israeli” Jews have fun. What’s more, unlike their Nazi forebears, who hid their worst camps in places like Poland, they want us to watch.
Posted by: malenkov | Mar 6 2024 13:53 utc | 74
Posted by: phenon | Mar 5 2024 22:50 utc | 21
“The death rate per month of Gazan's per population is higher than any country in WWII including Poland or USSR.”
Not even close
Currently, the most reliable and widely agreed upon figures place the massacre victims within Nanjing City Walls to be around 40,000, mostly massacred in the first five days from December 13, 1937; while the total victims massacred as of the end of March 1938 in both Nanjing and its surrounding six rural counties far exceed 100,000
The basic flys on this web site are so Eurocentric they don’t understand we are witnessing another Asian war. It is like Nanking Hiroshima and Nagasaki occurred on a different planet. No wonder for two years you have been cheering the Russian victory that never materializes.
Posted by: Zargo | Mar 6 2024 14:11 utc | 75
Religious and tribal wars are worse because of the dehumanization they imply. In this case they want to prove to the Muslims, who are known worldwide for their religiosity, that "their" god can't help them.
Posted by: Minaa | Mar 6 2024 14:15 utc | 76
Only the Israelis on the ground and the Arab populations in the Gulf can have a meaningful influence, apart if course from the impotent POTUS.
https://aje.io/ebcwlv?update=2753887
Posted by: Minaa | Mar 6 2024 14:18 utc | 77
@ Zargo | Mar 6 2024 14:11 utc | 75
Well, there’s your problem: Virtually all Westerners are taught, and believe, that WWII began on 1 September 1939 and ignore anything before that — because it didn’t happen in the West. Westerners are, in the main, ignorant of and indifferent to anything that happened in China unless it’s useful for Western propaganda (e.g. the “Tienanmen Massacre”).
Posted by: malenkov | Mar 6 2024 14:19 utc | 78
63
things will only get real when haifa gas oil and electric plants are hit when the intel chip plant in is not real is smoking until then the genocide will carry on.
i have never been very good with pattern analytics i met a rabbi once who said if it was not for antisemitism Jakob Ludwig Felix Mendelssohn
would be the greatest composer in history much better than the nazi wagner he said.
i have always found mendelsonsonson fourth rate sometimes drifting into 3rd rate hack sack but i cannot even spell so what do i nose.
antisemitism strikes again with the eviction of lovely victoria kagan nudelman right out of office and into a 5 million dollar a year job at brookings with a team of 20 koshernostra chabad changlings funded by Haim Saban, cargill monsanto and morgan stanley
it seems many nazi do not like strong zesty spunky jewish girls in the corridors of powers and principalities of the undead.
talking of the undead jacob and evelyne rothschild are still very much alive and kicking.
and the uk gold that was defrauded from the british people during liar blair and paedo browns bottom nm rothschild gold theft bonanza is still safe in underground lairs and vaults protected by the shoggoth protogasmic plasma.
Posted by: todd | Mar 6 2024 14:29 utc | 79
a few minutes ago:
Rescue operation under way after vessel hit off Yemen
We reported earlier that an explosion took place near a US-owned bulk carrier transiting southwest of the Yemeni port city of Aden.
The Ambrey maritime security firm has now said “reports confirmed the bulker had been struck and sustained damage”, adding that a naval operation to rescue the crew was “underway with parts of the crew already in lifeboats”.
A US defence official told Reuters that smoke was seen coming from the Barbados-flagged bulk carrier True Confidence.
The official, who declined to be named, confirmed a lifeboat was near the ship, without providing further details.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 6 2024 14:34 utc | 80
1) Rachel Blevins & Francis Boyle discuss Gantz current WH visit. Francis read WH readout by Harris, appears Gantz discussing invasion Rafah, and is green lighted by WH.
Readout addressed “evacuation” plan prior to invasion, but Boyle pointed out nowhere to go, Francis believes they will go with invasion regardless. Rest is PR bs by US. Discussed ICJ , address by So. Africa regarding Rafah specifically. 2)Discussed Nicaraguan lawsuit against Germany, Nicaraguan has asked for “emergency hearing” , Boyle believes hearing will be granted by next Thursday or so. He read all Nicaraguan suit, states they will “win something” as strong suit, however, one state suing another for “aiding & abetting” genocide, but has not been put before a court before. Explains why legally Nicaraguan didn’t sue US (time stamp 20:28) directly. Nicaraguan has Canada, UK, Netherlands in sight as well, waiting out response to Germany first.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oPEJh_Vr57w
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 6 2024 14:35 utc | 81
RE: Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 6 2024 3:56 utc | 43
RE: Yemen “permits”. Actually Yemen should have done this ages ago, “Permits” generate money, which they could use. Most likely will be ignored by ALL West, but I see China, Russia etc willing to play ball on that.
Just for you out of an FYI: Iran sieges US oil cargo— reason:
A form of cross-sanctioning, I.e. medical supplies. Never heard Iran using this b4. It’s usually in response to a tit-for-tat ship siege.
Russia and China have to be happy about this, US oil cargo ships, this presents increasing ME pressure, but was a taste demonstration of what is to come if US keeps fooling around.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2024/03/06/721379/Iran-confiscates-US-oil-cargo
“They said that the Western sanctions, especially those by the US, have prevented a Swedish company from selling medicines to Iran and caused severe physical and mental harm to them.”
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 6 2024 14:52 utc | 82
Minaa 76
So if today the Jews make a catastrophe for the Palastinians as big or bigger than the Romans in AD 73 made for the Jews, remind us what that proves exactly please.
That the Jews are bigger and stronger than God?
Obviously they forgot about hybris , nemesis and Ate.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 6 2024 14:53 utc | 83
Bear Witness to the barbarity that is store for us if we do nothing
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/3/5/children-are-dying-of-malnutrition-in-gaza
Posted by: ld | Mar 6 2024 14:53 utc | 84
ld | Mar 6 2024 11:52 utc | 69
malenkov | Mar 6 2024 13:53 utc | 74
The IDF learnt this behaviour in school. Children (12-14 year-olds?) were taken to Bedouin camps to literally trample and destroy what little possessions the tribes had. These were regular "school trips". Note, this is from from several years ago and it could easily be the same IDF nowadays, who show themselves in Palestinian houses and flats.
It presumably has a use to "try to fill up the narrative space" instead of seeing kids ripped apart by bombs.
[email protected], there's the rub, Superpowers beat the shit out of each other in one part of the world, while in others they hold each other's hand and piss all over the dead......we don't have Superpowers we have self serving slimy bastards regardless of nationality.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 6 2024 15:07 utc | 86
Agreed - it’s not serious until the Haifa chemical-refinery complex is attacked.
Posted by: Exile | Mar 6 2024 15:30 utc | 87
"make sure that Palestinians who have fled can return to their homes" 56
Impossible: The Israelis have destroyed their homes. There are no homes to which they could return. This is a greater atrocity than our language seems to express.
Posted by: Jean-David Beyer | Mar 6 2024 15:40 utc | 88
not just "they" doing the catastrophe but all who help them and their (surveillance) 'technology' i.e. the ppl making fortunes from home (usury forbidden?) while selling to others things they dont do themselves (drugs, prostitution, weapons, sects, bs jobs i.e. human traffick... the big cash is there)
are religions too big to fall? so
much cash is extracted from the poor in south america and africa that profit a number of 'churches' which usually have a mailbox either in switzerland or the US.
what can we do? boycott..degrowth..bank run..help each other...
Posted by: Minaa | Mar 6 2024 15:46 utc | 89
RE: Posted by: Jean-David Beyer | Mar 6 2024 15:40 utc | 88
Israel has failed in N. Gaza to eliminate all Palestinians. Still about 700, 000 that will not leave, even through starvation.
There are still some standing “homes” , 70% depleted.
I think the point Hamas is making, their “home” is N.Gaza, the have a right to return. Israel is already trying to “occupy” with troops and cut off N from S Gaza.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 6 2024 15:55 utc | 90
It is tied to Hamas releasing all hostages.........
The US needs to look like they are doing something other than the obvious support.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 6 2024 3:45 utc | 40
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It is ludicrous to demand that Hamas free hostages unless freeing all Pal prisoners held by Israel is part of the deal.
Duh.
Posted by: Jane | Mar 6 2024 16:04 utc | 91
Israel have embarked on Total War against the Palestinians:
. . .
Posted by: phenon | Mar 6 2024 0:11 utc | 28
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They planned and embarked on this war in the early 1930s.
This is just the latest "tip of the iceberg" in the ongoing total war.
Posted by: Jane | Mar 6 2024 16:11 utc | 92
Good review with Garland and Laith Marouf.
Laith does not believe in any ceasefire at all.
On a “speculative” case that ceasefire occurred, states that Israel would resort to beating Palestinians again going into Mosque for Ramadan, so, ceasefire would end anyway.
States with certainty that Ramadan will result in wider war period. States that Lebanon, Iraq & Syrian (militias- not state actors) will assist. States that Yemen will go full throttle and sink American warships.
States “Israel” ended October 7. It may “go out with a bloody mess” or erode the next few years into dissolving,
But internationally, and in region, Israel is no more. States they have lost 50% of foreign investments since start of war. States International consensus and actions will cause Israel to fold. In addition, Netanyahu, doesn’t matter, governance will collapse.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OtYVqZW48
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 6 2024 16:20 utc | 93
Forgot to add: Laith states the amount of deaths in this wider war will be horrendous. In the hundreds of thousands.
Believes will go on 4 months minimal, believes that if war still going by mid summer, US will open Iran front due to election.
I’ve no doubt wider war, 4-5 months seems a long time to me, but I never would have believed this genocide would be going on this 5-6 months.
I can see Israel/US screaming (if Israel looks like collapse/too many deaths) yelling uncle and running to UNSC for a “ceasefire” and “international troops” blah blah, not sure where that would go. But if Iran end goal, US/UK happy to sacrifice Israel to draw Russia & China in.
Meaning, disrupt oil to China, open front where Russia aids and defends 🇮🇷
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 6 2024 16:30 utc | 94
If Democracy means abiding and abetting Genocide, then there is no value to Democracy let alone a reason to save it.
The same goes for Oligarchy.
Choose wisely, Western Elites! ;)
/cheep cheep
Posted by: titmouse | Mar 6 2024 17:06 utc | 95
AjE cozying Modi? "He says that..."
https://aje.io/t2kyt5
Just like the way they keep putting quotes on the word genocide...
Reminds Fanon's book title Black skins, white masks
Posted by: Minaa | Mar 6 2024 17:10 utc | 96
Apparently, Gallant (IDF Defense Minister) is also going to UK, will meet with David Cameron.
David Cameron gives PR speech about it:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/cameron-to-warn-israel-minister-over-gaza-aid/ar-BB1jpE3t
“Foreign Secretary Lord Cameron has said Israel needs "a whole series of warnings" over the amount of aid reaching Gaza.
The foreign secretary said he would be starting with Benny Gantz, a retired general and member of the Israel's war cabinet who he is due to meet later.
Lord Cameron told peers that "patience needs to run very thin" with Israel.”
“As the "occupying power", Lord Cameron said Israel was "responsible" and that this had consequences under international humanitarian law.
International law states that an occupying power has a duty to ensure food and medical supplies to the population under its control "to the fullest extent of the means available to it".
“He added: "So patience needs to run very thin and a whole series of warnings need to be given starting I hope with a meeting I have with Minister Gantz when he visits the UK."
Hummm… thinking of Galloway: Elections have consequences.
Simply more coordinating of upcoming wider war to me.
Cameron could say all that crap over the phone. The U.S./UK good cop, bad cop crap.
They need a “war”… actually “war” to bury Israel genocide in Rafah and West Bank. Has to have a “cover” fir expulsions and deaths.
“It was Hezbollah, Yemen, Iraqi &Syrian militias that caused the deaths and expulsions of all the Palestinians”…
The “Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields “ garbage is paper thin and public not buying it.
In any case, so much bigger than Palestinians & Israelis anyways. The hegemony triad (US/UK/NATO (notice Vander Lyon in Greece, to open Mediterranean, for “aid ships”, so NATO looks like full fledge, many NATO countries will join) .
This honestly looking worse, for Israel, by the hour.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 6 2024 17:23 utc | 97
Gulf Coast Louisiana-Palestine Protest
Looked like 1000s of people.
Excellent speech by a Reverend.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e6uuBxSeRGg
Addresses crucial issues.
I was mostly shocked by number of attendees. Usually is I see a “news” release of a protest, I see, the most, about 2-500. This was massive. So now wondering if msm isn’t editing or just shooting angles they will allow public to see?
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 6 2024 17:51 utc | 98
Gaza SitRep 5/6.March
https://southfront.press/in-video-palestinian-fighters-rain-fire-on-israeli-forces-in-gaza/
Comment - (3) Videos, the usual RPG strikes on IDF armor unsupported by Infantry; plus in the 3rd video a 80?mm Mortar strike on oblivious IDF infantry in the open, finally the mortar team is shown adjusting aim after a few ranging rounds. First Time seen in any Gaza Video.
Tally remains at 169 Merkavas claimed
Posted by: Exile | Mar 6 2024 17:51 utc | 99
“…."make sure that Palestinians who have fled can return to their homes" 56…..
Believe poster meant return to homes in Deir Yassin, Jaffa, Bersheeba, etc etc ( as per numerous UNSC resolutions )
https://www.plands.org/en/maps-atlases
Posted by: Exile | Mar 6 2024 17:56 utc | 100
The comments to this entry are closed.
I want to talk not with info and facts but with emotions in reaction to those.
I'm starting to get sick of this sick world and some of its sick leaders.
I'm really sick of seeing people get cold, hungry, die and suffer.
I'm sick of the west even though I live in it, acting like we're some modern countries while genociding all the planet, animals and seas.
I'm sick of the zionist mass murderers lovers of extermination and people replacement, demolishing, suffocating and killing every palestinian kid out there.
I'm sick of all this, every day I read the news about new massacres I want to puke, and I don't know what can I do about it.
I'm sick of mild protests and marchs, I'm sick of useless donations, even though I donated to UNRWA, I feel money donations won't make a change, to stop a bleeding you don't put tissues on the blood.
I don't know how you people feel but I'm really becoming too sick of these idiots murderers.
Posted by: Animal | Mar 5 2024 19:56 utc | 1