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March 3, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-068
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Hail to the fedayeen! Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 3 2024 14:52 utc | 1 In Toronto last night Trudeau was supposed to have an event at the AGO an art gallery with the Italian leader Meloni yet there was such a large group of protestors the event had to be cancelled.(1) At least nine killed after Israeli air strike hits aid truck in Deir el-Balah Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 15:18 utc | 3 contd. Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 15:20 utc | 4 Haaretz Today | ‘30,000 Dead. A Stampede of the Starving. Hostages Dying. The War in Gaza Has to End’ Posted by: phenon | Mar 3 2024 15:22 utc | 5 https://tass.com/world/1754945 Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 3 2024 15:28 utc | 6 ‘I said the cost in civilian destruction in Gaza was too high, and the plan for “destroying Hamas’ military and governing capacity” unconvincing as the government refused to define clear goals for how to achieve it. As a result, the war looked indiscriminate.’ Posted by: pheonon | Mar 3 2024 15:45 utc | 7
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 3 2024 15:50 utc | 8 Israel, and its Zionist allies in the US, have a remaining window of opportunity to “Make Israel Great Again” before their internal (in the US) and external (in the world system) dominance is eroded to the point where Israel will not be protected enough to carry out its ethnic cleansing plans. So Israel went from slow ethnic cleansing to rapid ethnic cleansing and open genocide as the required timelines became compressed. These attacks on truck aids were systematic in Syria too at some point, and happened to both sides (rebels and loyalists), always carried by planes that did not have identification. People speculated it was the UAE, but it might well have been Israel. This also means that Israel and Qatar have a lot of dirt about each other. Posted by: Minaa | Mar 3 2024 16:04 utc | 10 Posted in wrong thread… Posted by: ZT | Mar 3 2024 16:06 utc | 11 Adolf cruelly and condescendingly consenting to Mussolini to airdrop envelopes of food to multitudes of starving people in the Warsaw/Gaza Ghetto. Amazing how blind the Israelis must be to think this is going to help their long-term future. Posted by: kupkee | Mar 3 2024 16:22 utc | 12 Israel has arrested so many Palestinians in the West Bank that they had to cut some loose to make room for the newly arrested. They have arrested over 7300 from the West Bank just since Oct. 7. Posted by: teri | Mar 3 2024 16:37 utc | 13 Mondoweiss is the best general source of news and commentary on Palestine that I’ve found — but it’s not so video intensive. John Helmer’s Dances With Bears is one of the most retro blogs you’ll find out there (along with ultra low-tech MoA), in terms of production values, but his most compelling focus over several postings lately has been the eschatological implications of Zionist behavior: Where are we going with this compulsion to constantly exceed previous atrocities?
https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/redemption-through-genocide/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 16:53 utc | 14 Oh-shit-ology is the study of “oh shit!” moments. Eschatology much the same. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 16:59 utc | 15 Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 15:18 utc | 3 Posted by: Blissex | Mar 3 2024 17:13 utc | 16 Al-Qassem Daily Sirrep ( from 2.March ) Posted by: Exile | Mar 3 2024 17:13 utc | 17 First of 2 videos is worth watching – after a few mortar rounds – then comes a compilation of RPG attacks on oblivious IDF APCs, IFVs, and a MBT. Posted by: Exile | Mar 3 2024 17:23 utc | 19 The Beeb is considering the possibility that an official statement by the spokesman for the Israeli armed forces may not be accurate!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68461543 Posted by: Leuk | Mar 3 2024 17:28 utc | 20 Posted by: Blissex | Mar 3 2024 17:13 utc | 16 Posted by: Blissex | Mar 3 2024 17:34 utc | 21 https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/redemption-through-genocide/ Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 3 2024 17:44 utc | 22 ” The Sabbatians invented a darker version of tikkun, which required its believers to plumb the depths of evil to rescue the sparks of creation. Scholem called it “redemption through sin.” Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 17:48 utc | 23 @Posted by: teri | Mar 3 2024 16:37 utc | 13 My “prediction” (that Syria will be the trip-wire) is starting to take form:
Ef-around-and-find-out… Posted by: Seer | Mar 3 2024 18:00 utc | 25 Jesus Joe fed the 2 million holy landers with 30,000 loaves and 3 fish. Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 3 2024 18:22 utc | 26 Organized Jewry and its minion Freemasonry, are dedicated to destroying civilization. Posted by: ld | Mar 3 2024 19:59 utc | 27 fyi Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 20:10 utc | 28 fyi Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 20:17 utc | 29 2 state solution: Some home invader with a bullshit story and a gun lays claim to half of your property. Now here comes the self proclaimed “sheriff” to back him up. Posted by: liveload | Mar 3 2024 20:39 utc | 30 In the interest of fairness lets not forget: Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 20:49 utc | 31 “… The plandemic was inspired by the satanic doctrine of “Creative Destruction” found in Cabalist Judaism & Freemasonry. Add the migrant invasion, gender madness, and the gratuitous war in Ukraine, and it’s clear that Organized Jewry ( i.e. the Rothschilds/ WEF) is determined to destroy the West. Posted by: bevin | Mar 3 2024 21:13 utc | 32 Ahenobarbus | Mar 3 2024 17:44 utc | 22 Posted by: bevin | Mar 3 2024 21:17 utc | 33 Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 20:49 utc | 31 Posted by: Blissex | Mar 3 2024 21:27 utc | 34 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 16:53 utc | 14
That mondoweiss piece you linked earlier is interesting on several levels. One of which is referencing the messianic sabbatian movement in the 1600s (also reportedly involved in the overthrow of the British Monarchy, a blow from which it never recovered). Gaza – Boy arrested, tied, laid on ground and lowly run over by armoured vehicle. Posted by: Suresh | Mar 3 2024 22:05 utc | 36 Israel, and its Zionist allies in the US, have a remaining window of opportunity to “Make Israel Great Again” before their internal (in the US) and external (in the world system) dominance is eroded to the point where Israel will not be protected enough to carry out its ethnic cleansing plans. So Israel went from slow ethnic cleansing to rapid ethnic cleansing and open genocide as the required timelines became compressed. “… The plandemic was inspired by the satanic doctrine of “Creative Destruction” found in Cabalist Judaism & Freemasonry. Add the migrant invasion, gender madness, and the gratuitous war in Ukraine, and it’s clear that Organized Jewry ( i.e. the Rothschilds/ WEF) is determined to destroy the West. 🙂 Do your best and retain your humanity. Tend your garden (do what you can do) and focus on your small slice of positive change in the world. If you can, coordinate with others of good faith to push back as you agree could best be done with least illegal harm. Have faith that those at the violent edges of resistance are too doing their best. 🙂 Posted by: titmouse | Mar 3 2024 22:35 utc | 39 Israeli tanks deliberately ran over Palestinians in Gaza: Euro-Med Posted by: Jo | Mar 3 2024 22:43 utc | 40 To attribute this sort of drive as mainly beholden to colonialist US Imperialism is, most likely, succumbing to deceptive tribal propaganda / programming. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 22:56 utc | 41 @bevin Posted by: Brautigan | Mar 3 2024 23:17 utc | 42
As it happens, you are right that I have little idea; and every time I tentatively go down the rabbit hole of American History I come out more confused. Though it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that messianic Christianity animated many of the harshest leaders in the shameful mistreatment of the indigenous in the Americas, I probably would continue to believe that the over-riding motivation came not from religious fervour but the international trading houses’ need for gold and silver with which to buy goods in Asia. [Gunder Frank, ReOrient] ZH has a posting up with the title
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 4 2024 0:35 utc | 44 The war will end when ALL historical Jewish Lands are reclaimed from the Palestainian Terrorists and they are expelled to the Western countries which love them so much. Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 0:44 utc | 45 psychohistorian | Mar 4 2024 0:35 utc | 44– Much agree with posts at #9 and #37, that so precisely go to the core of it. My own filter gives me the following additional essence: The Israelis have two points of leverage left to use. One is the wild-eyed threat of escalation. It is the “threat” itself that may yield some leverage. Actual escalation, as in Lebanon, is likely to be problematic with the missiles now arrayed against Israel. Posted by: FWH | Mar 4 2024 0:55 utc | 48 Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 0:44 utc | 45 Posted by: Engineer-John | Mar 4 2024 0:56 utc | 49 Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 15:18 utc | 3 Posted by: Hankster | Mar 4 2024 1:10 utc | 50 Until then the anti-Semites at MOA can continue screaming and crying… Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 4 2024 1:15 utc | 51 Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 0:44 utc | 45 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 4 2024 1:19 utc | 52 Dropping aid from planes is expensive and inefficient. Why do it? Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 4 2024 1:20 utc | 53 Israel has terrorism in its DNA.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 4 2024 1:20 utc | 54 Israel Channel 14: Despite the war, there is a significant wave of resignations in the Israeli army, one of which is Daniel Hagari, the army’s public spokesperson. Posted by: Hankster | Mar 4 2024 1:51 utc | 55 Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 4 2024 1:20 utc | 53 Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 4 2024 1:54 utc | 56 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 22:56 utc | 41 Posted by: RLTW | Mar 4 2024 2:42 utc | 57 We can’t ask or beg for a ceasefire. Posted by: Laura Roslin | Mar 4 2024 3:08 utc | 58 @Anti-Semites who responded to me Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 4:00 utc | 59 let’s see how long you last against the IDF…keyboard kowards… Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 4 2024 4:26 utc | 60 Punisher you baby killers are really tough. It is so brave of you to slaughter women and children who are starving. You scum suckers are really great at bombing hospitals schools and mosques and of course babies. Yet you cannot even stand up to your neighbors or Hamas so this crew would put you down no problem. Genociders have no place on earth they are the rot that is created by the vultures in DC and London . Rot that is what you are soros excrement. Sorry b but truth must be told. Posted by: Susan | Mar 4 2024 4:38 utc | 61 People such as Punisher equate atrocities and blind rage attacks with military success. Illuminating isn’t it ? Posted by: Exile | Mar 4 2024 4:49 utc | 62 Easy to read overview of the Genocide Lawsuit at the ICJ . Good to pass on the neutralist friends Posted by: Exile | Mar 4 2024 5:20 utc | 63 Khalissee Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 5:21 utc | 64 Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 0:44 utc | 45 Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 4 2024 5:33 utc | 65 Seyed Mohammad Marandi Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 5:36 utc | 66 Seyed Mohammad Marandi Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 5:38 utc | 67 AHMED | أحمد Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 5:41 utc | 68 AHMED | أحمد reposted Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 5:45 utc | 69 I’m wondering if Russian intel knows where all of Israel’s nukes are. In the end Israel is going to have to be disarmed: or the Zionists separated from the nukes. Posted by: Seer | Mar 4 2024 5:54 utc | 70 Tikku seems to be a throwback to Ba’al mountain god, pre- historic human sacrifice religions. Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2024 6:32 utc | 71 Even Kamala Harris now calls for an immediate ceasefire. Like Germany and Italy, what was a bad idea when supported ny Arab states and Russia at the UNSC is now seen as needed? Posted by: Minaa | Mar 4 2024 6:34 utc | 72 @ Minaa | Mar 4 2024 6:34 utc | 70 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 4 2024 6:39 utc | 73 Be sure to vote in all your local elections — you do it not for the direct “democratic” results beyond to keep the imperial ratfuckers busy from causing evil elsewhere! 🙂 Remember, “idle hands are the devil’s plaything,” keep their petty espionage agents busy so you can accomplish other things elsewhere! Contest their authority constantly so they have to leak power constantly. 🙂 Posted by: titmouse | Mar 4 2024 6:42 utc | 74 can anyone confirm this? https://www.thisishamas.com/?fbclid=IwAR2nIbYmuPu1D_8ucAwLsS3SPrDu6OtPUO_iUxLSbEkiBKy8kIgxXS_rxQs The Shovel Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 7:18 utc | 76 …. can anyone confirm this ?….. Posted by: Exile | Mar 4 2024 7:30 utc | 77 @bevin Posted by: waynorinorway | Mar 4 2024 7:51 utc | 78 Unindicted War Criminal removed from Ottawa International Women’s Day event over her IDF past. Posted by: Exile | Mar 4 2024 8:15 utc | 79 The Shovel Posted by: laguerre | Mar 4 2024 8:22 utc | 80 Waynorinorway @ 78 Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 4 2024 8:22 utc | 81 psychohistorian Posted by: Minaa | Mar 4 2024 8:37 utc | 82 Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 4 2024 8:22 utc | 81 Posted by: waynorinorway | Mar 4 2024 8:59 utc | 83 According to the Kaballah A Jew must not lend at interest to another Jew but must lend with interest to non Jews. Posted by: pheonon | Mar 4 2024 9:02 utc | 84 Gaza – Boy arrested, tied, laid on ground and lowly run over by armoured vehicle. Posted by: Gene Poole | Mar 4 2024 9:05 utc | 85 41 Posted by: Gene Poole | Mar 4 2024 9:12 utc | 86 Israel is using military robots in Gaza. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2024 9:33 utc | 87 The Zionists are using a form of “AI” to help in tagetting, which they have named “Gospel”. Apart from the sick name, it may be responsible for a clear use of Genocide. Stone I’d 88 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2024 10:46 utc | 89 Army guys resigning…. Olmert, Barak, Ayalon calling out the millenarists for what they are… Posted by: Minaa | Mar 4 2024 11:02 utc | 90 stonebird, Posted by: Minaa | Mar 4 2024 11:04 utc | 91 32 bell end bevin Posted by: todd | Mar 4 2024 11:20 utc | 92 ‘The Bible strongly condemns practices that are associated with Moloch, which are heavily implied to be child sacrifice.[1]’ Posted by: pheonon | Mar 4 2024 11:33 utc | 93 Stonebird 88 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2024 11:35 utc | 94 (Midrash is expansive Jewish Biblical exegesis using a rabbinic mode of interpretation prominent in the Talmud.) Posted by: pheonon | Mar 4 2024 11:37 utc | 95 In Toronto last night Trudeau was supposed to have an event at the AGO an art gallery with the Italian leader Meloni yet there was such a large group of protestors the event had to be cancelled.(1) Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 4 2024 12:14 utc | 96 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 22:56 utc | 41 In Toronto last night Trudeau was supposed to have an event at the AGO an art gallery with the Italian leader Meloni yet there was such a large group of protestors the event had to be cancelled.(1) Does anybody need reminding that Pritti Patel used British government money to pay for Islamic State fighters in Syria to get treatment in Israeli hospitals? Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2024 12:54 utc | 99 interrupted sorry Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2024 12:58 utc | 100 |
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