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March 03, 2024

Palestine Open Thread 2024-068

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Hail to the fedayeen!

Free Palestine!

Freedom for all mankind!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 3 2024 14:52 utc | 1

In Toronto last night Trudeau was supposed to have an event at the AGO an art gallery with the Italian leader Meloni yet there was such a large group of protestors the event had to be cancelled.(1)

A promising sign.

1. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-meloni-pro-palestinian-protesters-toronto-1.7132378

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 15:05 utc | 2

At least nine killed after Israeli air strike hits aid truck in Deir el-Balah

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/3/3/israels-war-on-gaza-live-every-minute-counts-as-hunger-kills-in-gaza?update=2746020

psychopathic - inhumane -

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 15:18 utc | 3

contd.

Eyewitnesses describe Israel’s attack on aid truck in Deir el-Balah
One of the witnesses has told Al Jazeera that he was on his way to a water well when the area was “showered with missiles, shrapnel flying around, body parts in the air”.

“This truck was carrying relief aid, with civilian volunteers on board. They were carrying food items to displaced Gaza people. It is alleged that Deir el-Balah is a safe zone,” he said.

“[Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu is waging a genocide and a starvation war. However, we are holding our ground. He cannot bring the Gaza people to their knees, I repeat, we will not bow to Israel.”

Another eyewitness told Al Jazeera that “there is no safe inch in Gaza”.

“Hospitals, schools, even tents are attacked; even journalists are not spared; and now the trickling relief aid is targeted. What is left for us? This is a sin,” he said.

A third person told Al Jazeera that “every single civilian and any moving object is targeted by the Israelis”.

“Every one of us walks carrying his own shroud,” she said.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 15:20 utc | 4

Haaretz Today | '30,000 Dead. A Stampede of the Starving. Hostages Dying. The War in Gaza Has to End'

When this is being shouted out in Israel we know they have lost the public on this around the world.

Posted by: phenon | Mar 3 2024 15:22 utc | 5

https://tass.com/world/1754945

“Israel uses phosphorous munitions in southern Lebanon — agency”

“Casualties were reported among civilians
BEIRUT, March 3. /TASS/. Israel has used phosphorous munitions to shell Lebanese settlements in the Wazzani River valley in Lebanon after a Hezbollah attack on Israeli settlements in Western Galilee, the Al Wataniya news agency reported.“

Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 3 2024 15:28 utc | 6

'I said the cost in civilian destruction in Gaza was too high, and the plan for "destroying Hamas' military and governing capacity" unconvincing as the government refused to define clear goals for how to achieve it. As a result, the war looked indiscriminate.'

Haaretz.com

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 3 2024 15:45 utc | 7

Dozens of far-right activists broke through an Israeli military checkpoint and crossed into Gazan territory on Thursday afternoon, with some making it hundreds of meters into the Strip before being corralled by troops, the army said.

The activists had gathered at the Erez crossing between northern Gaza and Israel to rally for the rebuilding of Israeli settlements in Gaza, when they “violently broke through an IDF checkpoint,” an Israel Defense Forces spokesperson said.

I hope the morons here on MoA (you know yourselves!) who were going on about 'Israeli Civilians', will understand when these clowns get mowed down by Hamas they got what they deserved.

There is no such thing as an 'israeli civilian'.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 3 2024 15:50 utc | 8

Israel, and its Zionist allies in the US, have a remaining window of opportunity to "Make Israel Great Again" before their internal (in the US) and external (in the world system) dominance is eroded to the point where Israel will not be protected enough to carry out its ethnic cleansing plans. So Israel went from slow ethnic cleansing to rapid ethnic cleansing and open genocide as the required timelines became compressed.

The biggest compression was caused by the failure of the Western project to destroy Russia, which would have removed a major ally from Syria and Iran. The Russian and Chinese midwifing of an Iran / Saudi Arabia peace agreement then just exacerbated the issue, as has the bringing in of Syria from the cold by the Arab league.

I cover the details of this in my latest piece: Making Israel Great Again: Before Time Runs Out

Posted by: Roger | Mar 3 2024 15:59 utc | 9

These attacks on truck aids were systematic in Syria too at some point, and happened to both sides (rebels and loyalists), always carried by planes that did not have identification. People speculated it was the UAE, but it might well have been Israel. This also means that Israel and Qatar have a lot of dirt about each other.

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 3 2024 16:04 utc | 10

Posted in wrong thread...


1. Does any one know of a pretty comprehensive chronological collation of alleged Israeli crimes since Oct 7? I was keeping track for the first couple months then now it's become a blur of bombings until this Flour Massacre.

2. Any recommendations of the best sources for most damning video/photography evidence? What telegram channels etc...i am still surprised so many people I know STILL dont really know/believe whats going on. Thanks

Posted by: ZT | Mar 3 2024 16:06 utc | 11

Adolf cruelly and condescendingly consenting to Mussolini to airdrop envelopes of food to multitudes of starving people in the Warsaw/Gaza Ghetto. Amazing how blind the Israelis must be to think this is going to help their long-term future.
Having become the Nazis themselves, they brazenly ignore their own dirty deeds, lying smugly, not seeing that they have now become the same soul-less inhuman creatures they, themselves, despised.

Posted by: kupkee | Mar 3 2024 16:22 utc | 12

Israel has arrested so many Palestinians in the West Bank that they had to cut some loose to make room for the newly arrested. They have arrested over 7300 from the West Bank just since Oct. 7.

"The Israeli General Security Service Shin Bet disclosed that it released a number of administrative Palestinian prisoners in a surprise move on Thursday night due to the overcrowding of the occupation prisons with prisoners and the lack of space for new detainees.

"Shin Bet and the occupation army released dozens of Palestinian detainees from Ofer Prison suddenly and without prior notification, 'following an assessment of the situation by various security agencies,' according to a joint statement issued by them.

"The statement explained that this step was due to 'the lack of space inside the prisons' and that the detention period for these detainees was set to end next month. Therefore, this step 'provides space for detainees who pose a greater threat.' ”

They don't have actual charges against these prisoners, as you can see by the above statement. They are being detained, but they were not arrested with any prosecutable charges. This is most frequently the case. They sometimes hold these people for months or years and then eventually let them go due to the lack of charges, according to numerous other articles I have read on this situation. Apparently in Israel, you can be detained pretty much forever if you are Palestinian. This is called "administrative detention".

There's some more in the middle of the article - Ben Givr complaining that Shin Bet was just being nice to the prisoners because of Ramadan, blah, blah, blah. The article ends with the security officials rebuttal to Ben Givr: "The officials stressed that Shin Bet and the army: 'Were forced in the last week to cancel the arrests (of Palestinians) they had planned on the eve of Ramadan, but then backtracked due to the lack of a place to arrest and detain them in light of the war.' ”

I.e., they had pre-planned to "arrest" a certain number of Palestinians just before Ramadan, but ran out of room to hold this designated number.

Full article here:

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240302-israels-prisons-overflowing-with-palestine-prisoners-hindering-new-arrests/

Posted by: teri | Mar 3 2024 16:37 utc | 13

Mondoweiss is the best general source of news and commentary on Palestine that I've found -- but it's not so video intensive. John Helmer's Dances With Bears is one of the most retro blogs you'll find out there (along with ultra low-tech MoA), in terms of production values, but his most compelling focus over several postings lately has been the eschatological implications of Zionist behavior: Where are we going with this compulsion to constantly exceed previous atrocities?

Helmer shares opinion polls of Jewish Israelis which are horrifying, evidence of profoundly genocidal craziness among the general public, disagreeable realities of a moral catastrophe in national consciousness. The End. There's a thumbnail definition of "eschatology" for the uninitiated: a big train headed straight for the cliff, with a few hundred nukes aboard.

Redemption through genocide is the serious moral hypothesis posed in Mondoweiss today. What I really hate about all this eschatological business is the explanatory power it holds, so brilliantly illuminating the madness behind the madness. For instance...

Scholem showed how the mystical-Kabbalistic concepts developed by Rabbi Isaac Luria of 16th century Safed, a center of Jewish scholarship and mysticism in Ottoman Palestine, provided a theological framework for messianism. Luria taught that during creation the light of the creator broke the vessels into which it had been placed, creating only a shattered world. Jews could bring redemption through “tikkun,” the repair of those vessels, by keeping the commandments. The Sabbatians invented a darker version of tikkun, which required its believers to plumb the depths of evil to rescue the sparks of creation. Scholem called it “redemption through sin.”

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/redemption-through-genocide/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 16:53 utc | 14

Oh-shit-ology is the study of "oh shit!" moments. Eschatology much the same.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 16:59 utc | 15

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 15:18 utc | 3
«psychopathic - inhumane

In the Sudan Open Thread, the Yemen Open Thread, the Rohyngia Open Thread, the Tigray Open Thread there are comments by people who are outraged by and protest the massacres in Sudan, Yemen, Myanmar, Ethiopia that have been going on for years and have made hundreds of thousands of victims, and I reckon that they are in good faith and good will because they equally care about all victims and do not exploit the suffering of just some victims to vent their anti-sudanitic, anti-sauditic, anti-burmitic, anti-ethiopitic ranting.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/corbyn-rohingya-muslims-aung-san-suu-kyi-burma-labour-leader-call-end-violence-a7968916.html
"Jeremy Corbyn calls on Aung San Suu Kyi to end Burma's violence against Rohingya Muslims"

https://jeremycorbyn.org.uk/ethiopia-sudan-and-tigray-humanitarian-situation-westminster-hall-debate-3-november-2021/
"Jeremy Corbyn (Islington North) (Ind): I beg to move, That this House has considered the humanitarian situation in Ethiopia, Sudan and Tigray."

https://jeremycorbyn.org.uk/the-ongoing-crisis-in-yemen-8-april-2021/
"I remain deeply concerned about the widely acknowledged humanitarian crisis in Yemen. Britain’s continued role in providing weapons and military support to Saudi Arabia while they are conducting military action against Yemen, including inflicting massive civilian casualties, is totally unacceptable."

Posted by: Blissex | Mar 3 2024 17:13 utc | 16

Al-Qassem Daily Sirrep ( from 2.March )

https://southfront.press/gaza-fire-swallow-more-israeli-troops-videos/

Comment - IDF paratroopers rotated/pulled out after getting throughly mauled since 2.Oct. Replaced by a unit of regulars (teachers) from the Non-com trading academy . Platoon of Teachers get lured into a booby trapped house…….

1 video of mortar firing etc.

Posted by: Exile | Mar 3 2024 17:13 utc | 17

Errata - non-com TRAINING academy

Posted by: Exile | Mar 3 2024 17:15 utc | 18

First of 2 videos is worth watching - after a few mortar rounds - then comes a compilation of RPG attacks on oblivious IDF APCs, IFVs, and a MBT.

Posted by: Exile | Mar 3 2024 17:23 utc | 19

The Beeb is considering the possibility that an official statement by the spokesman for the Israeli armed forces may not be accurate!

Israel-Gaza war: Israel demands names of hostages still alive for deal on new ceasefire

(...)Pressure for a deal intensified after Thursday's incident outside Gaza City in the north of the territory where at least 112 people were killed as crowds rushed an aid convoy (...)

On Sunday, Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesman Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said an initial review had been completed "of the unfortunate incident where Gazan civilians were trampled to death and injured as they charged to the aid convoy.

"Our initial review has confirmed that no strike was carried out by the IDF towards the aid convoy," he said. "Several looters approached our forces and posed an immediate threat to them."
(...)

The Israeli account is disputed. BBC Verify spoke to witnesses, who described being shot at.
Dr Mohamed Salha, interim hospital manager at al-Awda hospital, where many of the dead and injured were taken, told the BBC: "Al-Awda hospital received around 176 injured people...142 of these cases are bullet injuries and the rest are from the stampede and broken limbs in the upper and lower body parts."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68461543

Posted by: Leuk | Mar 3 2024 17:28 utc | 20

Posted by: Blissex | Mar 3 2024 17:13 utc | 16
«they are in good faith and good will because they equally care about all victims and do not exploit the suffering of just some victims to vent their anti-sudanitic, anti-sauditic, anti-burmitic, anti-ethiopitic ranting.»

I also reckon that those who protest the settler colonialism of the zulus in South Africa, of the uyghur in Dzungharia, of the chinese in Singapore and Taiwan, of the japanese in northen Hokkaido and the Ryuku, of the Arabs in northern and eastern Africa, do so because of genuine outrage, not because of taking the opportunity to make anti-zuluitic, anti-uyghuritic, anti-chinesitic, anti-nipponitic, anti-arabitic rants.

Posted by: Blissex | Mar 3 2024 17:34 utc | 21

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/redemption-through-genocide/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 16:53 utc | 14

I read it and enjoyed until early in the article it starts blaming the genocide on American Christians, ie trump. Genocide Joe and Genocide Dems are doing the shit. To even lightly try to shift the blame elsewhere and in a way that could aid the genocide Dems politically was enough for me to blow off the author Rubin.

Check out the LRB article in the Sunday round up. Much better.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 3 2024 17:44 utc | 22

" The Sabbatians invented a darker version of tikkun, which required its believers to plumb the depths of evil to rescue the sparks of creation. Scholem called it “redemption through sin.”

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/03/redemption-through-genocide/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 16:53 utc | 14 "


Guess, what believe system the Rothschilds adhere to ?

https://www.marcusbooks.com/book/9781943494019

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 17:48 utc | 23

@Posted by: teri | Mar 3 2024 16:37 utc | 13

Not arrested, Kidnapped and held as hostages while being tortured sometimes for years without charges.

Posted by: Roger | Mar 3 2024 17:56 utc | 24

My "prediction" (that Syria will be the trip-wire) is starting to take form:

From https://t.me/ZandVchannel/102717


The Israeli authorities intend to take a more aggressive position towards Russia in connection with the special operation in Ukraine. The leader of the libertarian wing of the ruling Likud party in Israel, Amir Weitmann, expressed confidence in this.

He accused Russia of being "heavily involved in what is happening in Israel."

Ef-around-and-find-out...

Posted by: Seer | Mar 3 2024 18:00 utc | 25

Jesus Joe fed the 2 million holy landers with 30,000 loaves and 3 fish.

Lo! Behold the Miracle of Jesus Joe

If he ever smells your hair you are blessed!
As little miss mini-me-mussolini just received.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 3 2024 18:22 utc | 26

Organized Jewry and its minion Freemasonry, are dedicated to destroying civilization.

The plandemic was inspired by the satanic doctrine of "Creative Destruction" found in Cabalist Judaism & Freemasonry. Add the migrant invasion, gender madness, and the gratuitous war in Ukraine, and it's clear that Organized Jewry ( i.e. the Rothschilds/ WEF) is determined to destroy the West.

They require the destruction of the old order which was dedicated to fulfilling God's Will.

Then, the "Great Reset" will create a "New World Order" dedicated to serving Satan. Hell on Earth. Satanism.

It's time to stop parsing their lies and focus on the OCCULT nature of the challenge we face.
Humanity suffers from a debilitating cancer. Satanist Jews and Freemasons control our blood supply (the banking system.) They have leveraged their control over government credit to subvert every social institution: government, media, education, religion, medicine, law. Their Communism is the control of every facet of human life.

Western goyim are helpless to resist since they have been brainwashed to eschew anything that can be termed "antisemitism." But Jews are also victims of this satanic megalomania.

Nahum Goldman quote continues.....
https://www.henrymakow.com/the_destuctive_principle_of_th.html

Posted by: ld | Mar 3 2024 19:59 utc | 27

fyi

10 Companies to boycott over their links to Israeli Apartheid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcH8-A6khyo

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 20:10 utc | 28

fyi

Genocide in Gaza through the eyes of Israeli soldiers | The Listening Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAT9NQ4WkE0 [10 mins]

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 20:17 utc | 29

2 state solution: Some home invader with a bullshit story and a gun lays claim to half of your property. Now here comes the self proclaimed "sheriff" to back him up.

Dafuq people. Who the hell would let a carload of genocidal sadistic barbarians just have what they want because violence.

Cowards!!!

Posted by: liveload | Mar 3 2024 20:39 utc | 30

In the interest of fairness lets not forget:


" The Soviet Union gave diplomatic recognition to Israel on May 17, 1948, just three days after its declaration of independence. It was the first state in the world to do so — long before the United States.

In a recent article in Jewish Currents, Dorothy M. Zellner recounts in great detail what effect this had on the Stalinized Communist Party in the United States. The CPUSA and associated publications for Jewish people had always rejected Zionism and the idea of a Jewish state. When the Zionist “union” in Palestine, the Histadrut, tried to boycott Palestinian workers, the American communists referred to it — correctly — as a “Jim Crow” institution. The CPUSA, despite its Stalinist politics, had a proud tradition of struggle against racism — and it denounced the racism of the Zionist colonization project.

In 1947, however, the Soviet Union surprised the world by announcing that it would support the UN plan for partitioning Palestine and creating a Jewish state. "

https://tinyurl.com/35htzy73

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 20:49 utc | 31

"... The plandemic was inspired by the satanic doctrine of "Creative Destruction" found in Cabalist Judaism & Freemasonry. Add the migrant invasion, gender madness, and the gratuitous war in Ukraine, and it's clear that Organized Jewry ( i.e. the Rothschilds/ WEF) is determined to destroy the West.

"They require the destruction of the old order which was dedicated to fulfilling God's Will..."
ld | Mar 3 2024 19:59 utc | 27

Could you not find another website to pollute with this garbage. If you are not Hasbara you are missing a career opportunity- the Zionists like nothing better than to see serious disciussions of their crimes sidetracked by idiotic conspiratorial anti-semitism like this.
They believe that to escape it Jews will flee to Israel. The logic is unassailable.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 3 2024 21:13 utc | 32

Ahenobarbus | Mar 3 2024 17:44 utc | 22
Agreed. The Rubin article was recommended because it explains a certain influential view in US circles.
As to the LRB article I recommended it two days ago. You are right it is very good.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 3 2024 21:17 utc | 33

Posted by: Moonie | Mar 3 2024 20:49 utc | 31
«In 1947, however, the Soviet Union surprised the world by announcing that it would support the UN plan for partitioning Palestine and creating a Jewish state. "»

Makes perfect sense:

* The english empire wanted to create a permanent destabilizing situation in the backyard of the then still-existing turkish empire, and also in the backyard of the past persian and arab empires, all three of which have threatened Europe in the past.

* All three, especially the turkish empire, are also rivals of whichever state is in Muscovy/Russia, whether the tsardom, the USSR, or the RF. The more Israel causes trouble in their backyard, the better for Muscovy/Russia too (consider Syria: it is not exactly a great friend of Turkey, so Muscovy/Russia supports it).

In that respect as a destabilizer a gangster and fanatic like Netanyahu is very effective.

Posted by: Blissex | Mar 3 2024 21:27 utc | 34

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 16:53 utc | 14

Scholem showed how the mystical-Kabbalistic concepts developed by Rabbi Isaac Luria of 16th century Safed, a center of Jewish scholarship and mysticism in Ottoman Palestine, provided a theological framework for messianism. Luria taught that during creation the light of the creator broke the vessels into which it had been placed, creating only a shattered world. Jews could bring redemption through “tikkun,” the repair of those vessels, by keeping the commandments. The Sabbatians invented a darker version of tikkun, which required its believers to plumb the depths of evil to rescue the sparks of creation. Scholem called it “redemption through sin.”

That mondoweiss piece you linked earlier is interesting on several levels. One of which is referencing the messianic sabbatian movement in the 1600s (also reportedly involved in the overthrow of the British Monarchy, a blow from which it never recovered).

This observation about 'a darker version of tikkun... plumbing the depths of evil' goes further and deeper than most commentary in explaining the nature of the eschatologically driven determination of nearly all Israelis to never, ever, ever treat Palestinians as fellow human beings. To attribute this sort of drive as mainly beholden to colonialist US Imperialism is, most likely, succumbing to deceptive tribal propaganda / programming.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 3 2024 21:50 utc | 35

Gaza - Boy arrested, tied, laid on ground and lowly run over by armoured vehicle.

Parachute aid dropped in sea.

I can't go on listing the horrors, please, please, someone, anyone, everyone, make this stop!

Posted by: Suresh | Mar 3 2024 22:05 utc | 36

Israel, and its Zionist allies in the US, have a remaining window of opportunity to "Make Israel Great Again" before their internal (in the US) and external (in the world system) dominance is eroded to the point where Israel will not be protected enough to carry out its ethnic cleansing plans. So Israel went from slow ethnic cleansing to rapid ethnic cleansing and open genocide as the required timelines became compressed.

The biggest compression was caused by the failure of the Western project to destroy Russia, which would have removed a major ally from Syria and Iran. The Russian and Chinese midwifing of an Iran / Saudi Arabia peace agreement then just exacerbated the issue, as has the bringing in of Syria from the cold by the Arab league.

I cover the details of this in my latest piece: Making Israel Great Again: Before Time Runs Out

Posted by: Roger | Mar 3 2024 15:59 utc | 9

A well thought out post-thanks

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 22:22 utc | 37

"... The plandemic was inspired by the satanic doctrine of "Creative Destruction" found in Cabalist Judaism & Freemasonry. Add the migrant invasion, gender madness, and the gratuitous war in Ukraine, and it's clear that Organized Jewry ( i.e. the Rothschilds/ WEF) is determined to destroy the West.

"They require the destruction of the old order which was dedicated to fulfilling God's Will..."
ld | Mar 3 2024 19:59 utc | 27

Could you not find another website to pollute with this garbage. If you are not Hasbara you are missing a career opportunity- the Zionists like nothing better than to see serious disciussions of their crimes sidetracked by idiotic conspiratorial anti-semitism like this.
They believe that to escape it Jews will flee to Israel. The logic is unassailable.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 3 2024 21:13 utc | 32

ld you have it almost right; its the Elite Anglo/Zionists that are behind the 'creative destruction'; the average Jew , not so much: and no, bevy, your logic is assailable.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 22:27 utc | 38

:) Do your best and retain your humanity. Tend your garden (do what you can do) and focus on your small slice of positive change in the world. If you can, coordinate with others of good faith to push back as you agree could best be done with least illegal harm. Have faith that those at the violent edges of resistance are too doing their best. :)

/cheep, warble
Look up to the sky, it's an angel flying high. It's a loving look, of a papered book, a hopeful kite glow! :)
-- Thanks Refaat
/cheep cheep

Posted by: titmouse | Mar 3 2024 22:35 utc | 39

Israeli tanks deliberately ran over Palestinians in Gaza: Euro-Med

🔹The European-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor has confirmed that Israeli tanks deliberately ran over dozens of Palestinians in separate incidents across the besieged Gaza Strip.

@PressTV - #Palestine

Posted by: Jo | Mar 3 2024 22:43 utc | 40

To attribute this sort of drive as mainly beholden to colonialist US Imperialism is, most likely, succumbing to deceptive tribal propaganda / programming.
@ Scorpion | Mar 3 2024 21:50 utc | 35

The two needn't be "mainly beholden" (either way) to be "working hand in glove" -- on the same page, part of the same religious fanaticism to exterminate subhumans -- albeit, in the name of Christianity, rather than Judaism. Take a look at Andrew Jackson's beatific beaming portrait in the middle of your $20 bill. If you don't think that crusader (and virtually all his minions) were slaughtering Indians in the name of Christ, then you have no understanding of how it happened, here in the US of A.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 22:56 utc | 41

@bevin

I keep telling you comrade, pearls before swine

Posted by: Brautigan | Mar 3 2024 23:17 utc | 42

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 22:56 utc | 41

The two needn't be "mainly beholden" (either way) to be "working hand in glove" -- on the same page, part of the same religious fanaticism to exterminate subhumans -- albeit, in the name of Christianity, rather than Judaism. Take a look at Andrew Jackson's beatific beaming portrait in the middle of your $20 bill. If you don't think that crusader (and virtually all his minions) were slaughtering Indians in the name of Christ, then you have no understanding of how it happened, here in the US of A.

As it happens, you are right that I have little idea; and every time I tentatively go down the rabbit hole of American History I come out more confused. Though it wouldn't surprise me to learn that messianic Christianity animated many of the harshest leaders in the shameful mistreatment of the indigenous in the Americas, I probably would continue to believe that the over-riding motivation came not from religious fervour but the international trading houses’ need for gold and silver with which to buy goods in Asia. [Gunder Frank, ReOrient]

Indeed, though they well might use evangelicals to provide the appearance of populist support for Israel, I doubt Christianity animates US Elites policy as much as The Chosen mindset drives many Israeli elites and settlers. Indeed, it's questionable how much they value such support given this is the same demographic whose communities they demonize as embodying 'white racist rage' and whose citizenship they increasingly disenfranchise.

The same chicken-egg question viz whether US Empire to Israel is dog to tail or vice versa also applies to Christianity viz Supremacism. Does the drive behind the many conquering civilizations throughout world history, such as Vikings, Romans, Aztecs and Mongols etc., fashion religions which empower them to succeed in so doing? Or does religion drive otherwise peaceful shepherds and shoemakers into messianic militaristic berserker-hood? I suspect you would agree that common sense infers the former as far more likely.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 3 2024 23:38 utc | 43

ZH has a posting up with the title

Israel Unveils New West Bank Settlement Expansion In Defiance Of White House

the quote

Israel approved the building of 3,600 Israeli homes in a new West Bank settlement. The announcement came just days after Secretary of State Antony Blinken declared the settlements were inconsistent with international law. Tel Aviv routinely ignores Washington’s requests to curtail its oppressive treatment of Palestinians without an impact on the billions in aid the US provides to Israel each year.

Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich approved the new Jewish homes on Palestinian land south of Jerusalem on Tuesday. "We will continue the momentum of settlement throughout the country," he said. Smotrich has denied the existence of the Palestinian people and called for the segregation of maternity wards.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 4 2024 0:35 utc | 44

The war will end when ALL historical Jewish Lands are reclaimed from the Palestainian Terrorists and they are expelled to the Western countries which love them so much.

There will be no peace until the Jewish People are safe in their own land.

Until then the anti-Semites at MOA can continue screaming and crying…

Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 0:44 utc | 45

psychohistorian | Mar 4 2024 0:35 utc | 44--

If the settlements were Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Serbian, Libyan, Cuban, the Outlaw US Empire would bomb them into dust. There's no allying with Zionism unless you're a Zionist sharing Zionism's Genocidal Goals.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 4 2024 0:47 utc | 46

The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 0:44 utc | 45--

You get the head of a pin as your plot.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 4 2024 0:48 utc | 47

Much agree with posts at #9 and #37, that so precisely go to the core of it. My own filter gives me the following additional essence: The Israelis have two points of leverage left to use. One is the wild-eyed threat of escalation. It is the "threat" itself that may yield some leverage. Actual escalation, as in Lebanon, is likely to be problematic with the missiles now arrayed against Israel.

The other point of leverage for Israel is to continue killing large numbers of Palestinian men, women and children while working toward a freeze of the conflict that preserves/expands all past and current gains similar to the way this has occurred in the past. There are indications that the world community will not stand for another freeze of this type. Mr. Lavrov went to the heart of it back in early October 2023 when he said that a genuine solution must be permanent and enforceable.

Looking at it from the side of the Axis of Resistance and most of the world community, there is a need to find and apply continued diplomatic, legal (through the UN and ICJ), demographic, economic and military pressure in order to bring the United States backed Israelis to the reckoning that they are due under a long series of United Nations resolutions.

Posted by: FWH | Mar 4 2024 0:55 utc | 48

Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 0:44 utc | 45
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Anyone who thinks this is the road to peace is delusional - - - Least of all for Jewish people.

Posted by: Engineer-John | Mar 4 2024 0:56 utc | 49

Don Firineach | Mar 3 2024 15:18 utc | 3
A quick search shows no other western media has this article . I guess we have to wait for the IDF to make up a cover story edit some footage and approve the bs cover story that they bombed hamas fighters not hungry women and kids.

Posted by: Hankster | Mar 4 2024 1:10 utc | 50

Until then the anti-Semites at MOA can continue screaming and crying…

Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 0:44 utc | 45

I think it's a fair trade.

Hear that, White Man?

Europe for Palestinians.

The Arabs get prime Western European and London real estate and you piss off to 'the holey land' where you can enjoy the company of god's chosen for the next two thousand years.

Deal?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 4 2024 1:15 utc | 51

Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 0:44 utc | 45

Needs a history lesson.

https://redsails.org/zionist-colonialism-in-palestine/

It was the Zionists in post-Balfour Palestine who essentially invented modern terrorism. You are the terrorists occupying stolen land and unless you grow up and act like adults soon, the project may come to a very ugly end.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 4 2024 1:19 utc | 52

Dropping aid from planes is expensive and inefficient. Why do it?
By Sarah Dadouch and Claire Parker
Washington Post, March 2, 2024 at 3:32 p.m. EST

Somewhat comprehensive article documenting that it was expensive and inefficient. But it was skipping the answer. Why? Because it is expensive and inefficient. Operation Fig Leaf. Covering shameful pieces, however imperfectly. Talking point in ICJ or simply for the flak in State Department talking with the press.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 4 2024 1:20 utc | 53

Israel has terrorism in its DNA.

Violence and Terrorism Habitual resort to force, by the military or para-military arms of the Zionist settler-state, has been directed principally against the Arabs — whose very existence in the land coveted by the Zionists rendered them automatically the primary and the ultimate target of Zionist hostility. But this addiction to violence has not been totally confined, in its manifestations, to Zionist relations with the Arabs. Towards the end of the British Mandate — when the alliance of British Imperialism and Zionist Colonialism, having served its purpose, was beginning to undergo the strains which finally led to its dissolution — the para-military and terrorist Zionist organizations (which Britain had respectively aided and condoned for decades) turned against the British garrison and British civil authorities in Palestine. And, after the outbreak of Zionist-Arab hostilities in Palestine, and the advent of United Nations mediators and truce observers, Zionist violence turned against the international personnel also. The assassination of the first United Nations Mediator and his military aide, and the occasional detention of United Nations observers, have served notice that no one who stands athwart the path of Zionism is immune from Zionist vengeance.

But, obviously, it is against the Arabs that Zionist violence has been most long-lasting, most methodical and most ruthless.

Prenatally and at birth, the Zionist settler-state resorted to violence as its chosen means of intimidating the Arabs of Palestine and evicting them. Such massacres as those which were perpetrated at Dair Yaseen, Ain ez-Zaitoun, and Salah ed-Deen (in April, 1948) were calculated measures in a formal program of eviction-by-terrorization.

Since its establishment, the Zionist settler-state has turned its violence both inwardly and outwardly: against the Arabs remaining under its jurisdiction, and against the neighboring Arab states.

In the Zionist-occupied territories of Palestine, massacres and other outrages visited upon such Arab towns and villages as Iqrith (December, 1951), Al-Tirah (July, 1953), Abu Ghosh (September, 1953), Kafr Qasim (October, 1956), and Acre (June, 1965) have been the most infamous — but by no means the only — instances of a program of racial hate elevated to the level of state policy and efficiently executed by the official apparatus of the state.

To these instances must be added the large-scale pogroms unleashed on the Arab population of Gaza and Khan Younis during the brief but eventful period of Zionist occupation of the area, in the wake of the Tripartite Invasion of Egypt in 1956.

Systematic military attacks on the territories of neighboring Arab states are perhaps the most widely known manifestations of Israel’s ready resort to violence — for many of these attacks were fully discussed by the United Nations Security Council. In addition to full-scale war, launched jointly by Zionist Colonial and British and French Imperialism against Egypt in 1956, and deplored by the General Assembly in six resolutions adopted between 2 November 1956 and 2 February 1957, smaller-scale attacks on Hamma (April, 1951), Qibiya (October, 1953), Gaza (February, 1955), and across Lake Tiberias (December, 1955, and March, 1962) were duly condemned by the Security Council, on 18 May 1951, 24 November 1953, 29 March 1955, 19 January 1956, and 9 April 1962, respectively. Other attacks, too numerous to cite individually, have elicited similar condemnations from the competent Mixed Armistice Commissions.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 4 2024 1:20 utc | 54

Israel Channel 14: Despite the war, there is a significant wave of resignations in the Israeli army, one of which is Daniel Hagari, the army's public spokesperson.
So no more hamas terrorists called Sunday and Monday from him .

Posted by: Hankster | Mar 4 2024 1:51 utc | 55

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 4 2024 1:20 utc | 53

The dropping of aid to the starving population I think it was some half assed attempt by the Bidet administration to placate the Muslim voters in the Detroit upper midwest area of the USA to continue to vote for the Democrat part of the one part state. It is sad and and and a new low for the pitiful horror show that the usa has become.

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 4 2024 1:54 utc | 56

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 22:56 utc | 41
The two needn't be "mainly beholden" (either way) to be "working hand in glove" -- on the same page, part of the same religious fanaticism to exterminate subhumans -- albeit, in the name of Christianity, rather than Judaism. Take a look at Andrew Jackson's beatific beaming portrait in the middle of your $20 bill. If you don't think that crusader (and virtually all his minions) were slaughtering Indians in the name of Christ, then you have no understanding of how it happened, here in the US of A.

Hey fuckface. Andrew Jackson gave the American Indians their own nation. Which is all that the Palestinians are asking for. Andrew Jackson raised an Indian boy as his own son. A little boy who was orphaned after Jackson massacred his village in retaliation for massacring a white settlement. The Indian tribe wouldn’t take him back. So Jackson raised him as his own son. Sent him to private schools.

You know Jack-shit about the history of this Country. Fuck off.

Posted by: RLTW | Mar 4 2024 2:42 utc | 57

We can't ask or beg for a ceasefire.
It has to be demanded.

A well reasoned argument:

https://youtu.be/y7EEU22L1Wg?si=Fa3Ji8kYElaiTziL

Posted by: Laura Roslin | Mar 4 2024 3:08 utc | 58

@Anti-Semites who responded to me

Join your brethren in Gaza & the West Bank and let’s see how long you last against the IDF…keyboard kowards…

Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 4:00 utc | 59

let’s see how long you last against the IDF…keyboard kowards…

Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 4:00 utc | 58

In case you're behind the times, the IDF is not doing very well in Gaza right now.

How about you join them yourself and get your balls blown off by Hamas while hiding in a tincan with diapers on?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 4 2024 4:26 utc | 60

Punisher you baby killers are really tough. It is so brave of you to slaughter women and children who are starving. You scum suckers are really great at bombing hospitals schools and mosques and of course babies. Yet you cannot even stand up to your neighbors or Hamas so this crew would put you down no problem. Genociders have no place on earth they are the rot that is created by the vultures in DC and London . Rot that is what you are soros excrement. Sorry b but truth must be told.

Posted by: Susan | Mar 4 2024 4:38 utc | 61

People such as Punisher equate atrocities and blind rage attacks with military success. Illuminating isn’t it ?

Blind Rage attacks against women and children are a sure sign of a defeated and demoralized Military. The Rape of Manila comes to mind.

Posted by: Exile | Mar 4 2024 4:49 utc | 62

Easy to read overview of the Genocide Lawsuit at the ICJ . Good to pass on the neutralist friends

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-israel-defied-icj-provisional-measures

Posted by: Exile | Mar 4 2024 5:20 utc | 63

Khalissee
@Kahlissee
BREAKING:

Israeli sources report that senior officials, including Army Spokesman Daniel Hagari, have resigned.

Israeli army is in turmoil

https://twitter.com/Kahlissee/status/1764436362554421329

Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 5:21 utc | 64

Posted by: The Punisher | Mar 4 2024 0:44 utc | 45

The only land that is rightfully yours is at the bottom pit of hell. The rest was stolen by your thieving ancestors, not 2000 years ago, but 80 years ago.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 4 2024 5:33 utc | 65

Seyed Mohammad Marandi
@s_m_marandi
·
9h
More babies are dying because of the starvation siege imposed by the Israeli Nazi regime on #Gaza.
#GazaHolocaust

https://twitter.com/s_m_marandi/status/1764384767804395727

Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 5:36 utc | 66

Seyed Mohammad Marandi
@s_m_marandi
·
11h
This isn't #Gaza.

Nazi forces rammed into 2 kids on bikes in the occupied West Bank. Then, a Zionist soldier shoots one in the neck, paralyzing him for life.

These are the truths that cowardly and racist Western journalists won't tell you.

https://twitter.com/s_m_marandi/status/1764356848151367786

Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 5:38 utc | 67

AHMED | أحمد
@ASE
They stole their home
They humiliated them
They treated them like sub-humans

They bombed them
They had fun using snipers to kill them
They made TikTok videos about their crimes

They starved them.
They would wait for them to reach trucks full of flour to kill them.

Then one day.....they did air drop of very little food for a PR operation....only to find out the food was expired.

https://twitter.com/ASE/status/1764485858667761679

Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 5:41 utc | 68

AHMED | أحمد reposted
Ghada Sasa | غادة سعسع PhD(c) 🇵🇸
@sasa_ghada
The Toronto cops attempted to kidnap a Palestinian woman! God bless the men who managed to pull her away.

https://twitter.com/sasa_ghada/status/1764348215090954724

Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 5:45 utc | 69

I'm wondering if Russian intel knows where all of Israel's nukes are. In the end Israel is going to have to be disarmed: or the Zionists separated from the nukes.

Posted by: Seer | Mar 4 2024 5:54 utc | 70

Tikku seems to be a throwback to Ba'al mountain god, pre- historic human sacrifice religions.
I see this as an attempt to deny and discredit the two millennia of Jesus AS teachings.

It was of course the Jews rejection of Jesus AS ' teachings that got the Jews expelled from the Holy Land.

The Jewish , British MI6 agent told me that what came before Jesus AS was better than his AS religion.
Oh yeah? Public the other one.

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2024 6:32 utc | 71

Even Kamala Harris now calls for an immediate ceasefire. Like Germany and Italy, what was a bad idea when supported ny Arab states and Russia at the UNSC is now seen as needed?
But they wont allow it until it is part of a PR operation they think they will win from?
This is exactly where Western politics stand: puppets used as faces (look at the number of blacks, muslims and women involved this time, for what is a purely zionist white-male engineered war) and the PR gurus in action.

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 4 2024 6:34 utc | 72

@ Minaa | Mar 4 2024 6:34 utc | 70 who wrote
"
Even Kamala Harris now calls for an immediate ceasefire.
"

Reuters more clearly says

VP Harris urges Hamas to agree to an immediate ceasefire, pushes Israel on aid to Gaza

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 4 2024 6:39 utc | 73

Be sure to vote in all your local elections -- you do it not for the direct "democratic" results beyond to keep the imperial ratfuckers busy from causing evil elsewhere! :) Remember, "idle hands are the devil's plaything," keep their petty espionage agents busy so you can accomplish other things elsewhere! Contest their authority constantly so they have to leak power constantly. :)

And be sure to de-dollarize, to save your own money, and boycott USA & UK products along with Israel products! Bit by bit the straw breaks the camel's back. :)

Posted by: titmouse | Mar 4 2024 6:42 utc | 74

The Shovel
@TheShovel
We’re not strategy gurus, but it does seem pretty fucking insane to be supplying both the humanitarian aid and the bombs being dropped on the people of Gaza

https://twitter.com/TheShovel/status/1763749176125599947

Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 7:18 utc | 76

…. can anyone confirm this ?…..

Easily refuted bald faced lies by Likudnik Hate mongers.

Truth is the IDF killed some 400 Israelis that day with Helicopter gunships and tanks executing the Hannibal Directivd.

Posted by: Exile | Mar 4 2024 7:30 utc | 77

@bevin
I keep telling you comrade, pearls before swine
Posted by: Brautigan | Mar 3 2024 23:17 utc | 42

You are right about that Brautigan, but the pearls are precious. They are wasted on posters like Scorpion
and canuck who continually try to denigrate bevin's contributions but simply end up with egg on their faces.
Intelligent posters and readers see through those silly attempts and appreciate bevin's presence.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Mar 4 2024 7:51 utc | 78

Unindicted War Criminal removed from Ottawa International Women’s Day event over her IDF past.

https://twitter.com/JTAnews/status/1758507929810907628

Posted by: Exile | Mar 4 2024 8:15 utc | 79

The Shovel
We’re not strategy gurus, but it does seem pretty fucking insane to be supplying both the humanitarian aid and the bombs being dropped on the people of Gaza

Posted by: Menz | Mar 4 2024 7:18 utc | 76

BBC Radio was maintaining this morning that this was because of Biden's bad relationship with Netanyahu. N. is furious because Benny Gantz was invited to Washington, not Netanyahu. Washington doesn't agree with Nutty's policy, but can't stop the arms.

Posted by: laguerre | Mar 4 2024 8:22 utc | 80

Waynorinorway @ 78
You owe Librul a big thank you for supplying the links you persistently demanded, he put a lot of work into that.

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 4 2024 8:22 utc | 81

psychohistorian
thanks!! the enhanced version was the one of al jazeera liveblog. not a surprise then.

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 4 2024 8:37 utc | 82

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 4 2024 8:22 utc | 81

I thanked him immediately expressing my appreciation when he agreed to do that.
You can do a search for that if you like. :-) That's a friendly needle which I hope is OK wid ya.

(And maybe I could be thanked for being persistent as we don't see him endlessly posting the
same arguments since. I was far from the only one to complain, y'know.)

Hope things are well with you and yours, Mark.
Sun's up here in the north, sidewalk ice starting to feel the heat!

Posted by: waynorinorway | Mar 4 2024 8:59 utc | 83

According to the Kaballah A Jew must not lend at interest to another Jew but must lend with interest to non Jews.


This is the beginning of ethnic supremacy.

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 4 2024 9:02 utc | 84

Gaza - Boy arrested, tied, laid on ground and lowly run over by armoured vehicle.

Parachute aid dropped in sea.

I can't go on listing the horrors, please, please, someone, anyone, everyone, make this stop!

Posted by: Suresh | Mar 3 2024 22:05 utc | 36

___________________

Sorry, but we need credible confirmation. Otherwise the bar loses credibility. It should not be hard for you to imagine that there are those out there who want to undermine its credibility.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Mar 4 2024 9:05 utc | 85

41
The two needn't be "mainly beholden" (either way) to be "working hand in glove" -- on the same page, part of the same religious fanaticism to exterminate subhumans -- albeit, in the name of Christianity, rather than Judaism. Take a look at Andrew Jackson's beatific beaming portrait in the middle of your $20 bill. If you don't think that crusader (and virtually all his minions) were slaughtering Indians in the name of Christ, then you have no understanding of how it happened, here in the US of A.

Hey fuckface. Andrew Jackson gave the American Indians their own nation. Which is all that the Palestinians are asking for. Andrew Jackson raised an Indian boy as his own son. A little boy who was orphaned after Jackson massacred his village in retaliation for massacring a white settlement. The Indian tribe wouldn’t take him back. So Jackson raised him as his own son. Sent him to private schools.

You know Jack-shit about the history of this Country. Fuck off.

Posted by: RLTW | Mar 4 2024 2:42 utc | 5___________

I recommend that anyone who really wants to know about Jackson and ethnic cleansing start by reading Zinn's People's History of the United States.
For those who just want to mouth off about it, try Quora, for example, or any of a thousand YouTube threads.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Mar 4 2024 9:12 utc | 86

Israel is using military robots in Gaza.

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1764497760173355257

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 4 2024 9:33 utc | 87

The Zionists are using a form of "AI" to help in tagetting, which they have named "Gospel". Apart from the sick name, it may be responsible for a clear use of Genocide.

There has been a systematic targetting of Doctors, Journalists, Uni Profs, Teachers, Writers and other core figures in Palestinian society, and their families. Either together or separately as individuals. This is more than racial, it is to eliminate ALL genetic traces of the intellectual and professional classes by killing the whole family, not just individuals. This is without a doubt Genocide (the elimination of ALL of a population).

The overall educational standard of the Palestinians is probably superior to the Zionist ones. Their level of literacy is extremely high. Which is yet another reason that Universities, schools and hospitals have been struck first.

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 4 2024 10:25 utc | 88

Stone I'd 88

More likely they are targeting family names that appear on Ottoman land deeds, some still stored in Istanbul

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2024 10:46 utc | 89

Army guys resigning.... Olmert, Barak, Ayalon calling out the millenarists for what they are...
how come the EU doesnt open its borders to anyone fleeing the regime, and the war for that matter, like they did with ukraine and the arab spring? you break it, you fix it, aint it?

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 4 2024 11:02 utc | 90

stonebird,
there is a list of the academic and scientists killed in gaza till 27 jan by the "scholars against the war in palestine"

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 4 2024 11:04 utc | 91

32 bell end bevin

the devil is in the detail dolt in the detail dolt.

what do the rothschilds worship?
what do you?

genie energy oded yinon is a big idea so is new khazharia not forgeting patagonia argentina moloch baal needs feeding and you need a bung in your hole : )

Posted by: todd | Mar 4 2024 11:20 utc | 92

'The Bible strongly condemns practices that are associated with Moloch, which are heavily implied to be child sacrifice.[1]'


'Early midrash regarded the prohibition to giving one's seed to Moloch at Leviticus 21:18 as no longer applicable in a literal sense.'


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 4 2024 11:33 utc | 93

Stonebird 88

Political Islam told my 80 year old mother that after I came onto Islam I no longer had any connection to my family Like everything else in political Islam that is the opposite of the truth. Eschatological group think like Zionism

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2024 11:35 utc | 94

(Midrash is expansive Jewish Biblical exegesis using a rabbinic mode of interpretation prominent in the Talmud.)

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 4 2024 11:37 utc | 95

In Toronto last night Trudeau was supposed to have an event at the AGO an art gallery with the Italian leader Meloni yet there was such a large group of protestors the event had to be cancelled.(1)

A promising sign.

1. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-meloni-pro-palestinian-protesters-toronto-1.7132378

Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 15:05 utc | 2

---------------

Needs to be every single time, these people are in public. Supporters of an artificial famine imposed by a regime that they're sending lawyers, guns & money.

Don't deserve nice things.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 4 2024 12:14 utc | 96

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 3 2024 22:56 utc | 41
The two needn't be "mainly beholden" (either way) to be "working hand in glove" -- on the same page, part of the same religious fanaticism to exterminate subhumans -- albeit, in the name of Christianity, rather than Judaism. Take a look at Andrew Jackson's beatific beaming portrait in the middle of your $20 bill. If you don't think that crusader (and virtually all his minions) were slaughtering Indians in the name of Christ, then you have no understanding of how it happened, here in the US of A.

"Hey fuckface. Andrew Jackson gave the American Indians their own nation. Which is all that the Palestinians are asking for. Andrew Jackson raised an Indian boy as his own son. A little boy who was orphaned after Jackson massacred his village in retaliation for massacring a white settlement. The Indian tribe wouldn’t take him back. So Jackson raised him as his own son. Sent him to private schools.

You know Jack-shit about the history of this Country. Fuck off."

Posted by: RLTW | Mar 4 2024 2:42 utc | 57

Yes, Adelf knows squat about American history; however, that does not stop him from making idiotic statments.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 4 2024 12:16 utc | 97

In Toronto last night Trudeau was supposed to have an event at the AGO an art gallery with the Italian leader Meloni yet there was such a large group of protestors the event had to be cancelled.(1)

A promising sign.

1. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-meloni-pro-palestinian-protesters-toronto-1.7132378
Posted by: canuck | Mar 3 2024 15:05 utc | 2

---------------
"Needs to be every single time, these people are in public. Supporters of an artificial famine imposed by a regime that they're sending lawyers, guns & money.

Don't deserve nice things."

Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 4 2024 12:14 utc | 96

Agreed.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 4 2024 12:21 utc | 98

Does anybody need reminding that Pritti Patel used British government money to pay for Islamic State fighters in Syria to get treatment in Israeli hospitals?

Islamic State trained by Israel in Jordan and funded by Saudi Arabia, equipped with Toyotas in Turkey by Obama and sent to Mosul. Right now the Barzani clan stooges in Kurdistan are being investigated and all their money stashes from stolen Kurdish Oil are being seized. USUKIS need the funds for building the Greater Israel in which Political Islam will be the administrators.

If you were Netanyahu and you knew that Saudi Arabia had knowingly
funded preparations for this project of Greater Israel, and wanted to normalise Political relations with Israel in return, would you be worried about Pitical Islam interfering with your Genocide of Palestinians assisted by your partners in crime in USUK?

This whitewash of China reconciling Saudi Arabia and Iran doesn't make sense. Either Saudi Arabia and Iran are the axis of Assistance together peacefully awaiting the birth of Greater Israel, which my interpretation , Or, Saudi Arabia isn't able to afford mercenaries to attack Israel because it has privatised its oil, and Sunni Muslims still refuse to take up Iran's offer of every type of assistance for them to attack Israel, inspite of Chinese diplomacy.

What will ever persuade the Saudis to abandon their treacherous use of mercenaries to help Israel, but never against Israel? And what will ever persuade Sunni Muslims to abandon Saudi Arabia for its treachery, and try to trust Iran?

Never going to happen. For Israel to be stopped in this genocide either Russia or China, the ex Communist countries who refuse religion to have any political power , must back the Sunni Muslims. Never going to happen either.

In my opinion the main driver behind this genocide is Biden's Roman Catholic belief that Islam is going to take its place, and this is a Roman Catholic Crusade against Islam.

Only when it is declared by Sunni Islam as a Crusade will the Muslimscunite

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2024 12:54 utc | 99

interrupted sorry

Only when Sunni Islam in South Asia declares this genocide to be a United Christian Jewish Crusade against Islam, will the Muslims unite and fight Israel. This moment is coming very very soon.

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 4 2024 12:58 utc | 100

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