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March 26, 2024
New York Times Misreports Gaza UNSC Resolution

To no ones surprise the very same New York Times which relied on lying witnesses to falsely claim that Hamas had raped Israeli women is also lying about a ceasefire resolution for Gaza that yesterday passed the United Nations Security Council.

U.N. Security Council Calls for Immediate Cease-Fire in Gaza as U.S. Abstains

The United Nations Security Council on Monday passed a resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire in the Gaza Strip during the remaining weeks of Ramadan, breaking a five-month impasse during which the United States vetoed three calls for a halt to the fighting.

The resolution passed with 14 votes in favor and the United States abstaining, which U.S. officials said they did in part because the resolution did not condemn Hamas. In addition to a cease-fire, the resolution also called for the “immediate and unconditional release of all hostages” and the lifting of “all barriers to the provision of humanitarian assistance.”

UNSC resolutions are legally binding documents under international law. They therefore use a very specific language. If the UNSC 'calls upon' someone to do something it is the legal equivalent of asking 'pretty please'. It has no real consequences.

However, UNSC Resolution 2728 which passed yesterday on a 14 to 0 vote with the U.S. abstaining, does not 'call upon' Israel or Hamas to do this or that.

It demands them to do something:

The Security Council, …

1. Demands an immediate ceasefire for the month of Ramadan respected by all parties leading to a lasting sustainable ceasefire, and also demands the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, as well as ensuring humanitarian access to address their medical and other humanitarian needs, and further demands that the parties comply with their obligations under international law in relation to all persons they detain;

2. Emphasizes the urgent need to expand the flow of humanitarian assistance to and reinforce the protection of civilians in the entire Gaza Strip and reiterates its demand for the lifting of all barriers to the provision of humanitarian assistance at scale, in line with international humanitarian law as well as resolutions 2712 (2023) and 2720 (2023); …

Soon after the resolution passed the U.S. falsely claimed that it is not legally binding:

Heidi Matthews @Heidi__Matthews – 22:45 UTC · Mar 25, 2024

The U.S. is unilaterally claiming that Security Council resolution 2728 is non-binding and therefore has no impact on its policy or the legality of Israel’s continued war. This is not so obvious… 🧵

How do we figure out the will of the UNSC (the 14 members that voted in favour)? We turn to the principles of treaty interpretation contained in the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties. We try to figure out the 'ordinary meaning of the text in light of its object & purpose'.

This could be a looong discussion. But for now, note that para 1 of the resolution uses exhortatory language: "*Demands* an immediate ceasefire". "Demands" looks a lot more like it creates an obligation than, for example, language of "emphasizing", "calling upon", "urging", etc.

Finally, many of the states who spoke at the session today noted their understanding of the resolution as binding. (I'd have to go back to the transcript for a fuller picture, but several so noted). …

Verfassungsblog – On Matters Constitutional agrees:

In conclusion, the resolution is – despite statements to the contrary – legally binding and creates a legally binding request for an immediate ceasefire during Ramadan and a legally binding request to immediately release all hostages.

The obvious elephant in the room is enforcement: who is to enforce the Security Council resolution in the current situation? It ultimately falls to the parties of the conflict to heed the Security Council’s call, and to the Council itself to enforce its requests. Given the experience of the past months, this is no cause for enthusiasm. Yet, the fact that the Council could agree on the text, after five vetoes on the matter, is, perhaps, a shred of hope.

By using the 'calls for' wording instead of the 'demand' used in the real resolution the New York Times is deceiving its readers about the obligations the resolution created.

The Washington Post is, in comparison, using the correct language:

The latest resolution, demanding an end to fighting during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan and the release of all hostages, was backed by 14 nations including China and Russia. The United States abstained, allowing it to pass.

While the language is correct even the Washington Post report is still a bit deceiving. The U.S. and Israel have tried to combine the two issues of a ceasefire and of a hostage release into one issues. The ceasefire would depend on the hostage release and vice versa.

But the UNSC resolution has explicitly separated those issues into two different demands and has added the immediate provision of food as another one.

It demand that both sides cease fire. It demands that both sides release hostages. It does not connect the two items.

Comments

AYFKM?
From the NYT article that you cite: “Though it is unclear if the medic was referring to the same scene, residents said that in no other home in Be’eri were two teenage girls killed, and they concluded from the video that the girls had not been sexually assaulted.”
Note the words “unclear” and the statement “they concluded from the video that the girls had not been sexually assaulted.”
Is it your position that Hamas did not rape any Israeli women????? Are we now accepting “video evidence” to determine whether a rape has occurred. There are no words for you

Posted by: Kimo Loka | Mar 26 2024 23:39 utc | 101

Posted by: Kimo Loka | Mar 26 2024 23:39 utc | 101
There hasn’t been a single verified rape let alone systemic rape. Israel has blocked all investigations.
You’re a victim of the New York Crimes and Zaka hasbara. Sorry.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 26 2024 23:50 utc | 102

Kimo Loka | Mar 26 2024 23:39 utc | 101

Are we now accepting “video evidence” to determine whether a rape has occurred.

You accept baseless ZioNazi genocidal maniac accusations as definitive proof. What is it Jesus said about the Synagogue of Satan? Something about being the Father of Lies? Borne out every single day ….

There are no words for you

Indeed.

Posted by: CalDre | Mar 27 2024 0:04 utc | 103

“Saudi Arabia last week pledged $40 million to Unrwa…But that compares with the $400 million in humanitarian aid for Ukraine that the kingdom announced in 2022.”
https://twitter.com/naderalihashemi/status/1772670120994709753
Posted by: Menz | Mar 26 2024 20:56 utc | 84
I think you’ll find that Saudi may end up upping its offer. Money is what Saudi has, and I’m certain the Palestinian cause is popular in Saudi. As pq says elsewhere, all the stuff about close Saudi-Israel relations only comes from Israeli sources.

Posted by: laguerre | Mar 27 2024 0:24 utc | 104

Posted by: Pq | Mar 26 2024 21:16 utc | 88
Thanks for the heads-up

Posted by: Menz | Mar 27 2024 0:39 utc | 105

Israeli propagandist behind Hamas ‘mass rape’ narrative exposed as grifter, fraud
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/03/25/israeli-propagandist-hamas-grifter-fraud/

Posted by: Exile | Mar 27 2024 0:44 utc | 106

Israeli TV says rape report is junk.
4 pages total:
1 page signatures
1 page summary
2 pages newspaper clippings
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmo03QSnWyI

Posted by: Exile | Mar 27 2024 0:50 utc | 107

I have noted the Olympic committee has pushed back on banning Israel so far. Wondering at what point they have to cave to demands . If provisional rulings of genocide don’t count , does this latest resolution cross the threshold. So looking forward to seeing Israel banned from international sports and shunned at that level . The very least it deserves.
Posted by: Hankster | Mar 26 2024 22:37 utc | 96
I’m not sure this will ever happen.
I have mailed (actual physical mail) three letters to their office in Switzerland asking that Israel be banned.
No response even via email. Not even a f@ck you.
They don’t give a crap what any of us think.

Posted by: Archetypex | Mar 27 2024 0:58 utc | 108

“…this will only be possible when both Israel and Hamas respect and implement today’s resolution, which — while not explicitly coercive under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations — reflects the international community’s consensus”
Already linked:
https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15641.doc.htm
Ch 7 is not at all likely given veto powers.
“Demand” is ambiguous as it might mean “rightfully request” or it might mean “order” depending on the setting and on the reader (e.g. lawyer vs someone more normal) .
It is hard to feel congratulatory about various nations taking months to agree to make a request for an end to a fully visible, day in day out slaughter of civilians.

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 27 2024 1:29 utc | 109

“It is hard to feel congratulatory about various nations taking months to agree to make a request for an end to a fully visible, day in day out slaughter of civilians.”
Posted by: Ornot | Mar 27 2024 1:29 utc | 109
Yes, it is very depressing

Posted by: canuck | Mar 27 2024 1:38 utc | 110

It’s now time to apply sanctions , since the Likud is openly communiting its ignoring both the ICJ and the UNSC

Posted by: Exile | Mar 27 2024 1:57 utc | 111

“..Gaza will be condos and LNG platforms long before a UNSCR is enforced.”
Patroklos | Mar 26 2024 18:32 utc | 60
You could be unduly pessimistic, the signs are that the IDF is losing every battle except that waged by air over Gaza where there is no competition.
I agree that it is unlikely that the UNSC resolution will ever be enforced by the UN- which lacks any means to do such a thing- but it is possible that other forces will act on behalf odf the UN.
For example, apart from the US, Israel absolutely depends on Turkish, Jordanian and Egyptian co-operation. In all of which countries there is an enormous weight of public opinion supporting the Palestinian cause, sooner or later public opinion is going to force governments-such as Erdogan’s- to put their money where their mouths are.
One thing that it is easy to forget in the “West” is that Israeli propaganda simply doesn’t register in the Arab world- there isn’t any one who believes a word of it. They understand it for what it is: the only Arabs with any time for Israel are those making money out of the connection or looking forward to doing so- and the prospects of developing lucrative trsde with the Zionists have never been worse.
Which takes us back to Turkiye where the government has resurrected the meaning of Byzantine diplomacy, dancing between the two sides, supplying Israel with everything it needs while denouncing it for its genocide, and, of course, working with Israel in Syria where both support the faux jihadi opponents of Assad and Russia.
One thing we can be sure of: Israel did not expect its operations in Gaza to last for more than six months. Nor did those who, overestimating the IDF, probably because they are white, expected them to roll over the ill armed militias in Gaza.
My sense is that the cavalry are on their way, while the Arab governments look away and notice nothing.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 27 2024 2:05 utc | 112

Israeli propagandist behind Hamas ‘mass rape’ narrative exposed as grifter, fraud
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/03/25/israeli-propagandist-hamas-grifter-fraud/
Posted by: Exile | Mar 27 2024 0:44 utc | 106
Rape in war is a given. I don’t know of a war where rape wasn’t occurring by all participants.
Did Hamas soldiers rape Israelis? Of course. Did IDF soldiers rape Pals? Of course.
The question is did anyone do anything about it.
Obviously the IDF did not, with all their social media pics of trophy Pal women’s negligee and underwear. I have read nothing about anyone being punished for this.
The Pals?
Info here is sparse, but it seems like we have some Hamas rapists but not much showing command ignoring such. This may just be fog of war. Kinda hard to control this when you’re fighting against the odds like Hamas is.
Wherever the truth lies in this matter remains to be seen. However, just because some asshole Israeli is a proven fraud doesn’t mean Hamas soldiers aren’t raping Israelis. It’s a certainty they are. Hell, the rape stats out of Europe concerning Muslim ME types are more than enough to establish that Hamas raping Israelis is a statistical absolute.
Does this mean anything?
It means war is no different today than what it was when humans invented it. In war civilians are fodder that get ground up by murdering rapist thieving army’s. There are no “moral” army’s. It’s why war is a plague that can be just as disastrous for the “winner” and “loser.”

Posted by: Archetypex | Mar 27 2024 2:07 utc | 113

#2 “The Resolution is not self implementing.”
This is true. However, any nation can (and should), referring to the resolution and Israel’s lack of compliance, enact its own implementation steps. As in: No trade with Israel until it complies; no political, social (including all areas such as arts, sports, scientific, etc.) or other contact with Israel; etc.
This needs to happen ASAP.
Posted by: Caliman | Mar 26 2024 16:01 utc | 22
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Yea verily yea.
I have been saying this for a long time.
If there are any Ivanhoes out there, they have legal cover for direct action.
I now expect to be derided for use of the term “legal cover” by “mature. world-weary” Uncle Arch. But what are we talking about when we talk about the ICJ and the Un if it is not an attempt, despite the odds, to create some kind of effective international legal system? Putin is taking the promise of the UN—the potential that it represents, what it might become—seriously, despite its many weaknesses and failures.
So it seems to me that some entity, a state entity, actually using the resolution as a signal to take action to save Gaza would strengthen the UN, by showing that its rulings and the members’ votes do mean something.
Thoughts???

Posted by: Jane | Mar 27 2024 2:07 utc | 114

Posted by: Archetypex | Mar 27 2024 2:07 utc | 113
Did Hamas rape Israeli women? Of course? Then find us one credible example.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 2:23 utc | 115

“The Pals?
Info here is sparse, but it seems like we have some Hamas rapists but not much showing command ignoring such. This may just be fog of war. Kinda hard to control this when you’re fighting against the odds like Hamas is.”
Source for these allegations? Let’s have it.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 2:25 utc | 116

This is huge, countries can individually and collectively impose sanctions on Isreal.
In light of the non compliance by the US, all previous UN and UNSC resolutions and sanctions against Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea and Iran should be reexamine and voted on again.

Posted by: Suresh | Mar 27 2024 2:46 utc | 117

Posted by: Jane | Mar 27 2024 2:07 utc | 114
Thoughts???
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Collective action by many states BDS/ Sanctions likely more effective in the longer run… perhaps even in the shorter run if done quickly…

Posted by: dumbo | Mar 27 2024 3:01 utc | 118

The Gray Lady (NYT) soils herself in public again? Quelle surprise. When will the shit libs put her in an old folks home already? Never, they would miss the smell… O_o

Posted by: titmouse | Mar 27 2024 3:38 utc | 119

Source for these allegations? Let’s have it.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 2:25 utc | 116
Pramila Patten, the UN’s special envoy on sexual violence in conflicts, for one, says there is convincing evidence of rape and torture. This is well documented from many news sources including the UN website.
Are you really going to try to argue that rape in war doesn’t occur when its magical Hamas soldiers?
That they are somehow angelic creatures with no human faults?
It happens, all the time, in every war, by all participants. It’s as common as dirt in a war. Magical Hamas soldiers are no exception.

Posted by: Archetypex | Mar 27 2024 3:46 utc | 120

meanwhile back at the genocide ranch
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240326/un-experts-report-accuses-israel-of-committing-genocide-in-gaza-1117568880.html
UN Expert’s Report Accuses Israel of Committing Genocide in Gaza
…..”It is my solemn duty to report on the worst of what humanity is capable of and to present my findings,” Francesca Albanese, the UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in the Occupied Territories, told the UN Human Rights Council on Tuesday. The Italian lawyer is one of dozens of independent human rights experts mandated by the UN to report and advise on specific themes and crises.
The UN expert wrote that she found “reasonable grounds to believe” that the “threshold indicating the commission of the crime of genocide against Palestinians as a group in Gaza has been met”
“I implore member states to abide by their obligations, which start with imposing an arms embargo and sanctions on Israel and so ensure that the future does not continue to repeat itself,” she said……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 27 2024 4:02 utc | 121

snake | Mar 26 2024 15:13 utc | 5
*** The Audit government should be authorized to govern all those who are the regular, already existing sitting government, it needs to hold its own elections and have its own charter and its authority needs to reach to all attachments to the operating regular government (like corporations, NGOs, contractors, Ambassadors, military and such).***
Most of the shittiest countries in “the West” have fine sounding declarations of non-dictatorship, decency, honesty, fairness, non kitten-strangling or whatever in their setup.
But what does the public invariably get instead…..????
So you want that on a global scale.
No escape possible …. ever.
Even local — not as big as regional or national — councils are usually rotten, cronyist, fantacist and unaccountable. However, all would be squeaky clean and splendidly unbiased with an organisation which had total control at *world* level?

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 27 2024 4:31 utc | 122

Archetypex | Mar 27 2024 3:46 utc | 120

Are you really going to try to argue that rape in war doesn’t occur when its magical Hamas soldiers?

Not every soldier rapes, despite your buffoonish claims to the contrary. From your conviction, it sounds like you have raped though – your view is anyone with the opportunity will rape, so, have you had the opportunity? I’m sure you have. And are projecting.
Fact is Hamas didn’t have a whole lot of time to rape anybody. The whole assault took a few hours. Moreover there simply is no credible evidence of it. Just because Israelis rape, murder babies, blow up schools and hospitals, etc. doesn’t mean Hamas does. Not every is as evil as it is possible to be – which describes Israel: they are as evil as it is possible to be.

Posted by: CalDre | Mar 27 2024 5:12 utc | 123

That they are somehow angelic creatures with no human faults?
It happens, all the time, in every war, by all participants. It’s as common as dirt in a war. Magical Hamas soldiers are no exception.
Posted by: Archetypex | Mar 27 2024 3:46 utc | 120
Your last statement is a straw man especially in consideration of the much needed larger context. Do rapes occur in wars and battles within wars? Yes.
1) October 7th wasn’t a war. It was a prison break.
2) The facts about that date and events were initially way overblown and obviously not facts at all, but fictions. Even Israeli (notably not Western) media acknowledged this from early on. You cannot separate the disproven claims of severed baby heads, fetuses cut from pregnant women, torture and other atrocities from the also-disproven rape stories. More on that in a moment.
3) You cite the UN report (note: NOT investigation, as it stated itself).
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/03/25/israeli-propagandist-hamas-grifter-fraud/
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/03/07/media-concocts-un-hamas-rape-report/ (pay special attention to the actual excerpts from the UN REPORT (again, not investigation, which Israel has blocked).)
4) You also miss the greater context in terms of the alleged rapes. First it was mass sexual violence and rape as a SYSTEMATIC TOOL OF WAR (see #1) which then quickly collapsed under even the most basic journalistic scrutiny, and then reached the point of the UN saying “well….it’s likely based on what we’ve been told but completely unable to verify (see item #3) and the exact excerpts contained in GrayZone’s 2nd article I linked. And then to “Weeellll…rapes must’ve happened…cuz war” (see all items aforementioned).
You’re reaching and reaching quite far. To the point of erecting straw men such as “Hamas (and the next waves of Palestinian jail-breakers) are angels?!”
Totally ridiculous. Actually read the UN report and get back to us, would you?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 5:33 utc | 124

Posted by: Archetypex | Mar 27 2024 3:46 utc | 120
So find us a SINGLE verified example of rape that occurred AT ALL on October 7th or kindly either shut the fuck up or admit you’re wrong and cannot prove anything you’re saying.
Again, I caution you – read the Grayzone report on the alleged findings of the UN REPORT (once more, not INVESTIGATION) keeping that in mind before you reply again.
On top of all that, you really should look into the very credible claims (and easily located videos of Israeli soldiers parading negligées and other lingerie of Gazan female victims of sexual humiliation) of Israeli rape and other sexual torture of Gazan women (and men) before you continue to degrade your own credibility here.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 5:37 utc | 125

This is pure hasbara:
“Are you really going to try to argue that rape in war doesn’t occur when its magical Hamas soldiers?
That they are somehow angelic creatures with no human faults?”
Complete bogus Newspeak garbage that anyone with a mental pulse sees straight through.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 5:38 utc | 126

Al Ahram qut
Al ahram quoting Afp at length on yesterday strikes in Syria.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitor did not say who carried out the air strikes in the eastern province of Deir Ezzor, which has been targeted by both US and Israeli raids in the past.
A US defense official told AFP the United States “did not conduct any airstrikes” overnight.
The Observatory said “an Iranian Revolutionary Guards adviser, his two Iranian security escorts”, and four Syrian and nine Iraqi fighters with pro-Iran groups were killed in strikes on a villa in Deir Ezzor city and the town of Albu Kamal on the Iraqi border.
It said the villa “served as a communications centre” in the area, reporting that the building was destroyed and that a Syrian civilian was also killed.
WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus announced on social media “the tragic loss of another one of our own in an air strike in Syria this morning”.
The post identified him as Emad Shehab, an engineer who “served as the WHO water and sanitation focal point” in Deir Ezzor.
Iran’s state news agency IRNA reported the attack was “carried out by the Zionist regime”, its term for Israel.
It identified the dead Guard as Behrouz Vahedi, saying he belonged to the Quds Force, the foreign operations arm of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
Syrian state news agency SANA blamed “American occupation forces” for the attack, which it said killed “seven military personnel and one civilian”, wounded others and caused “great material losses to public and private property”.
‘Windows shattered’
Israel has carried out hundreds of strikes targeting pro-Iran groups fighting alongside the forces of President Bashar al-Assad in the country’s 13-year civil war.
The United States has carried out fewer strikes in eastern Syria against pro-Iran groups, which it blames for a flurry of attacks on US interests in Iraq and Syria during the war in Gaza.
Hammoud al-Jabbour, who lives a short walk from the villa, told AFP he was woken up by the sound of explosions.
“It was one of the biggest strikes I’ve heard,” he said.
“The windows of my house were shattered, the power was cut in several neighbourhoods and the main roads were closed.”
The Observatory said an Iranian cargo plane flew from Damascus to Deir Ezzor city shortly before the strike, carrying technical equipment and the Guards adviser.
The Britain-based Observatory, which has a network of sources inside Syria, said he was in charge of telecommunications.
US strikes in February killed 29 pro-Iran fighters in the Deir Ezzor and Mayadeen areas in response to a deadly drone attack on a US base that killed three US soldiers across the border in Jordan.
Pro-Iran groups have since cut back their attacks on US targets in Syria, according to the Observatory.

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 27 2024 5:38 utc | 127

“Pramila Patten, the UN’s special envoy on sexual violence in conflicts, for one, says there is convincing evidence of rape and torture. This is well documented from many news sources including the UN website.”
LOL, appeal to authority, and an authority that hasn’t even conducted an investigation, let alone a trial. OK.

Comments by the head of the UN team have made it clear the UN mission to Israel was the product of an Israeli public relations campaign. By United Nations Special Representative on Sexual Violence in Conflict Pramila Patten’s own admission, the team was only dispatched following “pressure” by Israeli government-linked lobbying groups. Her personal schedule reveals its priorities: 15 days in Israel, and just two in occupied Palestinian territory.
And while the report says the UN team specifically declined to include “accounts collected by Israeli intelligence bodies, including those related to interrogations of alleged perpetrators, despite some being offered,” its authors go on to concede that “the mission team benefitted from the full cooperation of the Government of Israel,” noting that UN researchers were only able to visit the sites of 7 October attacks at the Nahal Oz military base, kibbutz Be’eri, the Nova music festival location, and Road 232 “with the support of the Israeli authorities.”
What’s more, the UN team openly admits it “held several rounds of meetings to review information” from the Israeli army, Israeli security service Shin Bet, and the Israeli National Police’s Oct. 7 investigation unit, Lahav 433. Further meetings were held with Israeli President Isaac Herzog and various Israeli functionaries.
But after their multi-week guided fishing expedition, the UN representatives came back mostly empty-handed.
Ultimately, they found only that there were “reasonable grounds to believe” that sexual violence occurred during the Palestinian strikes on October 7 – the lowest evidentiary threshold used by the researchers.
While the UN special representative on sexual violence, Pramila Patten, claimed to have found “clear and convincing information” that sexual violence later occurred to Israelis captured on October 7, she declined to name the victims or perpetrators and refused to say whether there was any pattern connecting the incidents.
At a press conference following the report’s publication, Patten stressed that the mission “was neither intended nor mandated to be investigative in nature” but noted that despite repeated calls for those affected to come forward, her team had been unable to locate a single victim of sexual assault by Palestinians.
Passages within the report and comments made by UN officials suggest the researchers had an easier time debunking Israeli claims than proving them.
“In the medicolegal assessment of available photos and videos, no tangible indications of rape could be identified,” the report concluded. [see embedded direct copies of UN report]
Open source material apparently proved no more fruitful to its authors than the Israeli-provided information. [once more, see openly available excerpts/screen grabs]
“While the mission team reviewed extensive digital material depicting a range of egregious violations, no digital evidence specifically depicting acts of sexual violence was found in open sources,” they noted.
What evidence the UN team did find indicated that, on at least one occasion, Israeli authorities went out of their way to stage a hoax rape scene. In the case of “a girl found separated from the rest of her family, naked from the waist down” in the aftermath of the strike on Kibbutz Be’eri, they wrote that it was “determined by the mission team that the crime scene had been altered by a bomb squad and the bodies moved, explaining the separation of the body of the girl from the rest of her family.”
[Once again see actual grabs of UN report – NOT investigation]
Speaking after Patten, Chloe Baszanger-Marnay, the leader of the UN Team of Expert on Rule of Law and Sexual Violence in Conflict, told reporters:
“On [Kibbutz] Be’eri, just to clarify, what we found was that there were two allegations we looked into that were unfounded. And they’re very well described in the reports and you’ll recognize them because they were highly publicized in the press. The rest, we could not verify. So… no, we could not verify any sexual violence in Be’eri at this point.”
Patten interjected: “There was an allegation that there were objects like knives that were inserted into the genitalia of a woman… the team reviewed the photos and we did not find anything like that.”
She even took a swipe at ZAKA, the ultra-Orthodox Israeli “rescue” group which helped host her visit, and which was responsible for many of the discredited claims of atrocities by Hamas on October 7.
“Inaccurate, unreliable conclusions, forensic conclusions were drawn by untrained volunteer first responders,” Patten declared, clearly referring to ZAKA. “We give some examples in the report, such as interpreting an anal dilation as anal penetration, when, according to our experts, when [there’s] extensive burn damage, this is what you get – anal dilation. And the position of the body as a result of severe burn damage, again being interpreted as a sign of sexual violence, with spread legs, etc. So that also, it may not be in Be’eri, but it is a fact that we found many instances of unreliable, inaccurate forensic interpretations by untrained people.”
Regarding the supposed perpetrators of sex crimes on October 7, the UN team “did not make any finding as to any pattern because we did not look into attribution,” Patten told reporters.
The UN report itself openly blamed the Israeli government for the team’s inability to determine who may have committed alleged sex crimes, noting that “the lack of access and cooperation by the Israeli authorities with the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem and Israel (IICOI) and the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) despite their timely requests to investigate the events of 7 October and their aftermath resulted in the unavailability of United Nations sourced or verified information on sexual violence linked to the attacks committed by Hamas and other armed groups.”
This apparent refusal to pin the blame for apparent sex crimes on Hamas has been met with contempt by Israeli media figures.
During a March 6 interview about her report with Israel’s Channel 12 News, a visibly frustrated host badgered Patten for failing to conclude that Hamas was responsible for systematically sexually assaulting Israeli women.
“May I just ask, why not put the responsibility and blame the atrocities quite simply on the perpetrators and say, ‘it was Hamas who did it?’” the host demanded.
Patten replied that the mission of her visit to Israel was “only for the purpose of gathering and analyzing information,” not for attributing alleged crimes to any perpetrator.
“It is pretty clear who did it, after talking to survivors who returned – it wasn’t the Belgians who did it,” chortled the host.
“I think it’s up to your government to give access, and that was one of my first recommendations,” Patten responded.
The UN representative was referring to supposed Israeli survivors of sexual assault whom she was unable to meet during her visit, but who absolutely exist, according to Israel’s government.

You haven’t a leg to stand on. Rapes happen in war and battles. This wasn’t a war or battle. No rapes – ZERO – can be found. Admit it, or prove rapes otherwise.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 5:44 utc | 128

Posted by: CalDre | Mar 27 2024 5:12 utc | 123
Bingo. Ding Ding Ding. These fools are clowning themselves.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 5:46 utc | 129

From a UN point of view, of course, the area around Gaza is part of the 1948 borders so “officially” (as far as the UN is concerned) Israeli territory (i.e. not “occupied” territory).

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Posted by: CalDre | Mar 26 2024 17:19 utc | 45
No. UNGA181 was only passed under stiff lobbying pressure by a small majority [= not at all popular + Arabs massively objected] and so was never even considered by the UNSC = never became law.
IMHO the zs have *no* valid claim on Palestine land [apart from that purchased before the nakba outrage = aggressive war for spoil = ultimate war crime].
UNGA194 [“right of return” = much more popular + approved by UNSC] = ‘Give it all back!’ rgds

Posted by: skrik | Mar 27 2024 5:59 utc | 130

Tom,
Thanks for posting the entire truth. What’s most illuminating is how Hasbara lies and lies land lies and lies and lies. By now – everyone should have concluded Hasbara has zero credibility. Abosolutely zero.
Article from famous NYTs reporting finally coming clean about the lies he was forced to write:
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/israels-culture-of-deceit

Posted by: Exile | Mar 27 2024 6:00 utc | 131

Hasbara never seems to mention the 400+ Israelis massacred by IDF gunships and tanks on 7.Oct.

Posted by: Exile | Mar 27 2024 6:02 utc | 132

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 5:46 utc | 129
Posted by: CalDre | Mar 27 2024 5:12 utc | 123
Agreed… I think that particular poster tends to worry that these ‘religious fanatics’ will ‘come here as refugees’ — and we don’t want such ignorant/backward/irrational people with rapey tendencies amongst us.

Posted by: dumbo | Mar 27 2024 6:03 utc | 133

Almost sounds like the US.
Alon Mizrahi | without equality there’s no freedom
@alon_mizrahi posts on twitter 11:49 PM · Mar 24, 2024:
“As an Israeli in this dark disgusting inhuman time, there are many things I see and hear and can tell you about and are worthy of research and serious consideration, but there is one part of it that is so uncanny, so disheartening, so extraordinary, that I can hardly describe it, and you won’t get it. Because it’s so hard to believe, or conceptualize.
I’m referring to the total and complete lack of public debate in Israel about any of this. Try to get this to your head: for Israelis, the genocide is not happening. The war is not real. Even the low-intensity conflict with Hizbullah up north is not real. How can I explain something that doesn’t exist? But it doesn’t. Can you believe it?
No one argues about any of this, and no one weighs the pros and cons of any single part of it. It is not talked about.
Israel has captives in Gaza, but no one knows why, or as part of what. It is not talked about. It is forbidden to talk about this, or about starvation, of the scale of death and destruction in Gaza.
Moreover: it is forbidden to talk about Palestinians in general, so they are never mentioned, and haven’t been mentioned in 20 years at least in Israeli media. So if you try to talk to Israelis about Palestinians, they will not know what you’re referring to. They will think you only say it because you hate them.
Could you believe it, that the most crucial element of a society’s situation can be disappeared from its conversation, its consciousness and its politics.
But for Israelis, Palestine and Palestinians don’t exist, I’m telling you. If they ever do exist, it is in the moment before being shot to death by a soldier or police officer – and then they die, and vanish once more.
There is no genocide, no Gaza, no Palestine, no occupation, no starvation, no dead children, no pregnant women in unimaginable distress. None of it exists. It is all, 100% of it, ancient antisemitism’s new clothes.
You cannot truly comprehend it. It is too much to believe, I know it. I live it and can’t believe it. But it’s true. Israel’s management of consciousness has become so expert, its propaganda skills, so profound and total, internalized so fully, that Israelis have no idea – no idea at all – where, when, and how they exist. Absolutely zero idea.
And it is this component of Israel that will stay with me, and I will marvel at, and continue to always think about, and grapple with. This is the truly incredible part of it. If you told me this, or if I read it in a book, I would not believe the extent to which thought control is possible. But now I do.”

Posted by: JAB | Mar 27 2024 6:26 utc | 134

@Tom_Q_Collins
Every man I know who has argued for the Hamas rape story has basically used the argument that rape is universal in war. And they persist in this even after every such story is debunked.
But this was not “war.” This was a special military operation that had been planned and developed over two years, and everything that happened had to happen within a very limited amount of time. This was a serious military operation with very definite goals and the goal was not revenge; the goal was a military defeat of an unprepared, chaotic, incompetent IDF. And this goal was achieved. Generalities about “war” simply don’t cover this situation.

Posted by: JAB | Mar 27 2024 6:32 utc | 135

@Tom_Q_Collins
Apologies, I somehow came to believe you were arguing for “rapes happen in war, therefore rapes happened.” My bad.

Posted by: JAB | Mar 27 2024 6:38 utc | 136

Kimo Loka @ 101
It’s interesting the same thing happened in Ukraine too. Fascism and Zionism, the 2 faces of the same coin.
Meanwhile you seem to have no problems with the evidence providing proof IOF has engaged in systematic sexual crimes.
https://thecradle.co/articles/lawyer-behind-hamas-rape-claims-exposed-as-fraud

Posted by: Suresh | Mar 27 2024 7:04 utc | 137

Quds News Network
@QudsNen
Aldi stores in the UK change details on their Israeli dates to deceive buyers into thinking they are South African.
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1772572354515816604

Posted by: Menz | Mar 27 2024 7:59 utc | 138

@Tom_Q_Collins
Well that was a valiant effort to deal with the Hasbara.

Posted by: pq | Mar 27 2024 8:20 utc | 139

Posted by: JAB | Mar 27 2024 6:32 utc | 137
More succinctly.
Rape is common in occupations but very rare in fighting. Hamas was only doing the later making it very unlikely to have happened.

Posted by: badjoke | Mar 27 2024 8:38 utc | 140

Posted by: Menz | Mar 27 2024 0:39 utc | 107
No worries. Sorry if I sounded snippy. I find most of your posts useful. I am dismayed and depressed by the fact that most here are from the Axis of Genocide and instead of taking on their own government support for Israel they invest a lot of energy and support in digging out Hasbara snippets to prove that the reall villains of the story are Arabs, Turks and Muslims.
International law and international instuitions of the neocolonial post WWII order do not protect the Global South and only protect the neocolonialism of the Global North. Yet somehow this is all the fault of the Muslims and Arabs and not our fault.
This hypocrisy is frustrating. Not to mention the enthusiam for confessions extracted by the brutal torture of random Tajiks by Russian soldiers wearing far right Nazi insignia on other MoA threads. Disseminated by the Russian government itself to their nationalist channels!
I would have thought torture is always wrong. Apparently it’s fine when directed at Muslims. Then these same people wonder why there is a genocide in Gaza. Disgusting.

Posted by: pq | Mar 27 2024 8:53 utc | 141

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 5:44 utc | 130
So what was the source of your quotation of that long and convincing debunking of the rape allegations? Thanks.

Posted by: laguerre | Mar 27 2024 8:57 utc | 142

When it comes to Zionazis rapeyness – they start early as teenagers , when they are taken to Cyprus to gangbang some drunken eurosluts – it’s part of their training as being entitled and special.
The mentality of such arrogance is easily seen by just talking to those ‘boys’ as Abby Martin did in her interviews on the streets. Sexist & Racist with a huge slice of Entitlement on their puny shoulders.
They are reminiscent of the now shrivelled white South African apartheid racist tribe who under their emblematic ‘Terre Blanche’ leader and ‘their land’ threatened to preserve their ‘white tribe of Africa’ rights.
Which is EXACTLY the same mentality at play in Occupied Levant by the Zionazis – ultimately destined for the same fate – and sooner than most can imagine.
I’ll repeat for you brain dead hasbarats – you better be packing up and leaving now in your own time – because the moment will arrive when you will exodus carrying only your suitcases and whatever is hidden in your clothes and stomachs.
If you haven’t noticed most of your ‘ruling class’ have already got their homes in Florida and it seems Argentina is being prepped for your arrival. Seeing as how the original plan to have Odessa and Crimea is now an impossible dream.
Do you not get it ? It’s over , the I****l project is failed.
Go on , git!
The little squirt rapist Prince Caspians are really going to have disappointed lives living as paupers.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 27 2024 9:40 utc | 143

I salute Tom_Q_Collins and CalDre for their time and effort in cleaning and sweeping the saloon here of the dregs of lazy thinking and stereotyping of the Hamas fighters as rapists.
No matter that relatives of some of the Israeli women killed on Oct 7 last year have said that their loved ones were not raped by Hamas fighters, and that these relatives have insinuated that not only were the women killed by the IDF, but also that the IDF interfered with the dead women’s bodies to make them appear as if they had been raped; if there is an opportunity to exploit and manipulate Western stereotypes and fears of Arab and Muslim people, Israeli hasbara propagandists will seize it.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 27 2024 9:50 utc | 144

Posted by: pq | Mar 27 2024 8:53 utc | 143
No problem pq, I found your reply to be informative.

Posted by: Menz | Mar 27 2024 10:21 utc | 145

bevin | Mar 26 2024 17:09 utc | 40
There is no reason, provided that they learn to behave themselves, why the colonists should not be allowed to stay and build a new state hand in hand with their muslim and christian fellow Palestinians
Well, sanity would suggest that if the colonists haven’t learned to behave themselves in three generations, which they clearly have not, then we’re dealing with a profound, likely incurable, psychosis.
Having said that, I’d add that, in your hypothetical future, the remaining minority of former Israelis living under a new sovereign/security arrangement would no doubt learn to behave themselves, even if begrudgingly. At least given another three generations to do so.

Posted by: john | Mar 27 2024 11:40 utc | 146

Interesting that “b” did find a comment by German “Verfassungsblog – On Matters Constitutional” that did not denounce Palestinians because that´s what they usually do.
And if the texts are dragging their feet attempting to not outright attack Israel then the comments by readers do the insulting of the author and Palestinians´ cause.
So thx for the detail! (Hard to stomach some of the stuff on that site, especially it being a legal site)

Posted by: AG | Mar 27 2024 11:48 utc | 147

bevin | Mar 26 2024 17:09 utc | 40
“There is no reason, provided that they learn to behave themselves, why the colonists should not be allowed to stay and build a new state hand in hand with their muslim and christian fellow Palestinians
Well, sanity would suggest that if the colonists haven’t learned to behave themselves in three generations, which they clearly have not, then we’re dealing with a profound, likely incurable, psychosis…”
Posted by: john | Mar 27 2024 11:40 utc | 149
Exactly-the atrocious behaviour of Israel over 3 generations have forfeited their right to any part of Palestine.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 27 2024 12:18 utc | 148

JAB 136…thank you for your post. very aposite…clearly Izzy ” mind control” extends to western politicians and states…hence UK politicians intergration into Friends of Zisrael….any comment becoming antisemitic…the horribly pervasive and persuasive campaign re Abrahamic Accords and related Holocaust sign ups…means that politicians and states are caught in a trap…they cannot unsign….and even if frozen in their more becoming apparent psychosis that still serves Israel.

Posted by: Jo | Mar 27 2024 12:43 utc | 149

Excellent post B

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Mar 27 2024 13:42 utc | 150

Israelis a pernicious neighbour.
Rape divides families
Poverty prevents marriage
Spying is a source of work that is deeply normalised in the Ottoman world, and deeply dividing
Imprisonment is depressing
Theft of land destroys opportunity
Traitors live the high life of Israeli opulence
Now, Israelis themselves are discovering for what Nazism feels like and leaving.
Oppressors oppress friend and foe equally.

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 27 2024 13:55 utc | 151

@8 “Form a posse. It is past due.”
The posse is forming.
https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/militarismCategory/israeli-war-on-palestine

Posted by: lindaj | Mar 27 2024 14:30 utc | 152

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 5:38 utc | 128
Most Hamas soldiers would sooner cut off their member than sully their life stream and dishonour their families by penetrating a Jewess with it.
I read through several Unz pieces on Israel yesterday, with one entitled ‘Israel’s Biblical Psychopathy’ which explains Yahweh, a bloodthirsty, supremacist tribal god exemplifying the collective psychopathology of Jews despite relatively few of them being individually so afflicted. They see themselves above all subhuman others who can thus be tricked, cheated or killed; collectively they believe it their tribal destiny to rule the world thanks to a deal made with their transactional, materialist Yahweh. If denied, there is always the Samson option explored in another Unz article ‘Fear of the Jews and the Jewish god of Terror’.
In short: there are valid reasons why Jews have been expelled so many times over so many centuries.
It is time for the world to give Palestinians their own State with full military assistance and contiguous borders. Israel doesn’t get a say in this. The Jewish collective belief in their tribal Terror God Yahweh virtually guarantees unending supremacist violence. More people need to wake up to this, especially ordinary Jews themselves in the diaspora host countries who, like most human beings, are perfectly fine people. But they need to stop enabling and rather break free of their psychopathological cultural matrix by leaving the tribe, thus renouncing their covenant with their subversive, quintessentially evil, Terror God.
(And Christians should exorcise Yahweh from their Bible!)

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 27 2024 15:05 utc | 153

Posted by: snake | Mar 26 2024 21:01 utc | 87
Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 26 2024 16:02 utc | 24
thank you for pointing out a potential flaw “it is basically creating a One Ring World Government authority. But it will inevitably subverted before long, therefore I deem it an unwise choice.”
However I argue that trying this out can cause little harm…

Joseph Campbell described a tribe wherein a person would be made King for four years with full authority at the end of which he committed ritual suicide.
It sounds a little absurd but there is an important principle: the reason the Israel business (and other things) aren’t decided is because there is no one individual or body in whom final authority has been vested with unequivocal enforcement power.
But: any heart invested with such power can be corrupted. So: how do you restrain someone with ultimate authority without undermining that authority and its ability to resolve otherwise unresolvable issues (like Israel)?
Attempts to resolve this probably produced the One God Above All, so that above the King is a higher transcendental authority-King embodying bedrock, timeless ‘royal’ principles. ** In Daoist China this principle is called ‘Heaven’.
Jews created a transactional higher power, Yahweh. In so doing, they have subverted the transcendent non-material aspect and so twisted the whole thing into a supremacist ‘my tribe is the bestest’ dynamic in the (now cosmopolitan, ultra-materialist) jungle.
In any case, the conundrum with the UN remains: without enforceable authority it is useless; but with supreme authority (Great Globalist Reset?) it could usher in a totalitarian dystopia.
I suspect that if we cannot resolve this conundrum at the global level, now that our world has shrunk into one due to the Industrial Revolution, that War is the only remaining time-tested way of resolving the unresolvable. Though it nearly always makes things worse.
(Thanks for your posts, which I always enjoy.)
** The King’s Two Bodies A Study in Mediaeval Political Theology (1957) -Ernst Hartwig Kantorowicz

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 27 2024 15:43 utc | 154

someone registered with THE DURAN write Christoforou the info that the UNSC-Res. DEMANDS and IS BINDING as b has pointed out! And not just “calls” for ceasefire.

Posted by: AG | Mar 27 2024 17:06 utc | 155

skrik | Mar 27 2024 5:59 utc | 132

From a UN point of view, of course, the area around Gaza is part of the 1948 borders so “officially” (as far as the UN is concerned) Israeli territory (i.e. not “occupied” territory).
..
Posted by: CalDre | Mar 26 2024 17:19 utc | 45

No. UNGA181 was only passed under stiff lobbying pressure by a small majority [= not at all popular + Arabs massively objected] and so was never even considered by the UNSC = never became law.
IMHO the zs have *no* valid claim on Palestine land [apart from that purchased before the nakba outrage = aggressive war for spoil = ultimate war crime].

I agree with you that the UN fundamentally violated the UN Charter when it admitted Israel as a member state in 1948, and that thus the act was ultra vires and invalid, and Israel is not a legitimate state under international law. Nonetheless, Israel is now a member of the United Nations and the United Nations does recognize large tracts of land as being officially part of “Israel” (and other parts as being “occupied”), and the entire UNSC (and the vast majority of the UNGA) consider Israel to be a valid state.
Basically I don’t see a plausible path to rectify that error.

Posted by: CalDre | Mar 27 2024 17:28 utc | 156

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 27 2024 15:05 utc | 156
Well…I don’t know about that, lol. But I agree with you that most Hamas and other Palestinian fighters would think of it as sullying themselves to engage in barbaric acts like rape, which they know as well as anyone would also just feed into the Zionist occupiers’ hasbara messaging – as is what happened anyway! BTW, I’ve grown to respect Ron Unz a little more over the past few years. As a Jew himself, he allows a wide range of content on his site, including some frankly *actual* anti-Semitic writing with which I disagree. But he makes the case that he’s pro free-speech (as am I) and readers should be astute enough to filter out what they don’t want to read. The only thing that troubles me about some of the authors/content there is that a website doesn’t offer a sufficiently immersive and comprehensive reading experience to constitute an actual education on that type of subject, and most of his readers likely don’t follow up and read the full-length books cited so that they can obtain the full context and/or do their own fact checking. In the meantime, the Zionist occupiers are doing everything they can to increase anti-Semitic feelings around the world (which can be argued is their **intent**). But I digress…
To the rest of the thread, I appreciate the feedback on the fiction of Hamas/Gazan rape on October 7.
Posted by: laguerre | Mar 27 2024 8:57 utc | 144
See the two links to the Grayzone that I included with my enumerated reply to the purveyor of hasbara above. I believe they were part of item #2, wherein Max Blumenthal and his staff took the time to *actually read* the UN report (again, NOT investigation) that the media conveniently distilled down to adequate reason to believe that rapes MAY have happened. Instead of just lazily conveying that message, Grayzone posted screen shots/excerpts of the UN document where it was clearly stated that no fuckin’ evidence of any rapes was ever really provided, and that Israel purposely blocked any ability to do a real investigation. Again, how convenient.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 17:32 utc | 157

I think that particular poster tends to worry that these ‘religious fanatics’ will ‘come here as refugees’ — and we don’t want such ignorant/backward/irrational people with rapey tendencies amongst us.
Posted by: dumbo | Mar 27 2024 6:03 utc | 135 + CalDre’s comments
I had not even thought about it that way. Excellent point. Plays into the whole “savage Muslim” and “Palestinians as animals” narratives that Zionists and their hasbarats (or just general western “othering” of Arabs) rely on to drive sentiments against the oppressed and in favor of the oppressors. It seems to work well, too.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2024 17:37 utc | 158

@ Petri Krohn | Mar 26 2024 15:28 utc | 9
The New York Times can be useful.
Karel Sláma & Carroll M. Williams proved that it limits the proliferation of bugs, being an inhibitor of the embryonic development of the Pyrrhocoris apterus:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.54.2.411

Posted by: Leuk | Mar 27 2024 18:07 utc | 159

The actual Security Council Resolution 2728, March 25, 2024. The document has been hard to find, as almost no one links to it.
b is right: the resolution DEMANDS an immediate ceasefire. The key paragraph, quoted verbatim:

Demands an immediate ceasefire for the month of Ramadan respected by all parties leading to a lasting sustainable ceasefire, and also demands the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, as well as ensuring humanitarian access to address their medical and other humanitarian needs, and further demands that the parties comply with their obligations under international law in relation to all persons
they detain

The resolution also DEMANDS hostage release, immediately. It’s not conditional on when a ceasefire happens.
In addition, the resolution DEMANDS access for humanitarian aid.

Posted by: Cyril | Mar 27 2024 19:58 utc | 160

The article says, in part (machine translation):
“The first official study published in Israel on sexual abuse that took place during the October 7 massacre was published about a month ago by the Association of Crisis Centers for Victims of Sexual Assault. The report analyzed dozens of confidential and open information, including eyewitness and hearing testimonies, interviews with rescue and treatment forces, information permitted for publication in the print and electronic media, and inquiries received by the union.
A few weeks later, the report of the UN secretary-general’s mission on sexual violence in conflict was published, based on a visit she made with her team to kibbutzim in the south and the Palestinian Authority to collect testimonies. …Patten’s 24-page report is based on the opinions of about 10 medical and legal experts. He determined that during the massacre there were acts of rape, gang rape, rape of bodies, genital mutilation and more.”
In other words, while this particular person is unreliable, other – reliable – sources have documented numerous instances of rape, etc. on the part of Hamas militants, on 07 October.
Netanyahu is a racist, fascist piece of doo, but Hamas is no better. Both the people of Israel and the people of Palestine deserve better.

Posted by: Myke Simonian | Mar 27 2024 21:37 utc | 161

(And Christians should exorcise Yahweh from their Bible!)
Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 27 2024 15:05 utc | 156
______
Except that they can’t. Their Christ even sacrificed himself in an unsuccessful attempt to slake his dad’s bloodlust.
Christianity is the same evil Bronze Age death cult, just with a smiley face pasted on it.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 27 2024 23:21 utc | 162

@Eoin Clancy | Mar 26 2024 15:05 utc | 3
Regardless of the wording, all it is is just words, well intentioned but ultimately, if you talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk. Ain’t gonna happen and every barfly knows it.
Security Council resolution 2728 implicitly gives UN peacekeepers (blue helmets) the legal authority to establish a cordon sanitaire around Gaza.
If the Israelis shoot at the peacekeepers (and they are reprehensible enough to do it), the world will have authority to take more foreful measures.

Posted by: Cyril | Mar 28 2024 1:26 utc | 163

@Cyril | Mar 28 2024 1:26 utc | 166
Oops, s/foreful measures/forceful measures/

Posted by: Cyril | Mar 28 2024 1:30 utc | 164

I agree with you that the UN fundamentally violated the UN Charter when it admitted Israel as a member state in 1948, and that thus the act was ultra vires and invalid, and Israel is not a legitimate state under international law. Nonetheless, Israel is now a member of the United Nations …
Basically I don’t see a plausible path to rectify that error

Posted by: CalDre | Mar 27 2024 17:28 utc | 159
Thanks for the link, snip:

Once Israel was admitted to the United Nations, it would have to submit to the jurisdiction and the sovereignty of the United Nations and to fulfil the decisions of the Organization

But it as good as never submits to UN jurisdiction nor standards, it is a criminally rogue regime, proof by even casual inspection. Foxes do not foul their own nests; Israel fouls their illegally occupied squat continually now since UNGA181 was oh, so cynically foist upon the world, now ~77 years ago.
Israel is a genocidally mass-murdering land thief.
Too bad there is no effective ‘world police’ aka justice, total world-wide BDS including 100% ‘sent to Coventry’ might help. rgds

Posted by: skrik | Mar 28 2024 3:36 utc | 165

@ Posted by: dumbo | Mar 26 2024 21:15 utc | 89
Yes, it’s an open secret and India and Israel are close strategic partners. It could almost be called a military alliance of sorts, or as some have put it, a military romance or love affair.
Israel and India, a Match Made in the U.S., Develop Their Own Military Romance
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/israel-india-military-romance
India and Israel’s Secret Love Affair
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/india-israels-secret-love-affair-11831
What is not as widely known, however, is that India and Israel are strategic partners in their “lobbying efforts” inside the USA.
While many people know about the infamous Israel Lobby like AIPAC and other Zionist organizations, many Americans don’t realize that there is now a very powerful India Lobby that is allied with the Israel Lobby. The lobbying organization US-India Political Action Committee (USINPAC), for instance, is modeled on and allied with AIPAC.
Indian American Politics Look A Lot Like Pro-Israeli Politics
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/10/indian-american-politics-look-lot-pro-israeli-politics/
Jewish lobby in US bats for India
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/jewish-lobby-in-us-bats-for-india/articleshow/45517641.cms
One striking aspect of American politics is the explosive growth of Indians in US politics, in terms of both the Democrat and Republican parties alike, as well as inside the US Government and the Washington blob.
The Joe Biden government, for instance, has a record of 130+ Indian Americans in key positions. This shattered the prior record of 80+ Indians in Donald Trump’s government.
Record Over 130 Indian-Americans at Key Positions in Biden Administration
https://www.news18.com/news/world/record-over-130-indian-americans-at-key-positions-in-biden-administration-5810443.html?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral
I don’t think that this development is any coincidence but likely the political fruit of the strategic axis between the Israel and India lobbies that has been growing for the past couple of decades.
Indians are the “new Jews” in the USA.

Posted by: ak74 | Mar 28 2024 4:36 utc | 166

@ Posted by: ak74 | Mar 28 2024 4:36 utc | 169
India is needed as the source of boots on the ground for world domination, especially against Russia and China. They are not white and therefore the imperialist can’t be accused of white supremacy. Their oligarchy is wholly connected into the West. Bollywood churns out propaganda that aligns their masses. The TV soaps are equally aimed at worshipping the jetset rich lifestyles with fawning masses.
Hence the great promotion to high offices in the U.K. and US. As a means of using the diaspora to exert the influence ‘back home’ to muster the military to help the ‘old empire’!
It is failing.
Brazil and Mexico are needed for that too, for South America.
Various African nations also for keeping Africa. It was supposed to be South Africa, and Nigeria and Uganda for the West, South and East .. with Sudan and Ethiopia and Egypt for the North.
All controlled by you know who in the Levant and Crime as their bases at the crossroads of the continents.
That is generally failing too!
Hence the desperate importation of Africans by the plane loads as migrants crossing from ‘Mexico’ – to replicate the Indian and Latino diasporas, who would become ‘loyal’ and could be used as boots on the grounds and for exerting influence on their homelands.
Because the Collective Wests Owners have no reverse gear – they can only plan to win in the future even as they get punched in the face constantly.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 28 2024 8:18 utc | 167

comment disallowed?
glad i know not to contribute any more $$ here. will just read for free.

Posted by: lindaj | Mar 28 2024 20:04 utc | 168

DunGroanin | Mar 28 2024 8:18 utc | 170
*** India is needed as the source of boots on the ground for world domination, especially against Russia and China.***
Long thought India with its vast and ever increasing population (and attitude) could become a major threat to other countries in the future.
Unless a destruction or collapse of Russia happens, one large place India could — eventually — attempt to expand into would be Australia.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 29 2024 23:33 utc | 169