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March 23, 2024
Media Snippets Related To The Crocus City Hall Attack

Terrorist attack in Crocus: over 60 deaths, more than 100 wounded

MOSCOW, March 23. /TASS/. Unidentified people have conducted a terrorist attack in Crocus City Hall in Krasnogorsk in the Moscow Region. According to the latest figures, more than 60 people were killed, and another 100 were wounded.

Gunmen kill more than 60 in concert attack near Moscow, Islamic State claims responsibility

MOSCOW, March 22 (Reuters) – Camouflage-clad gunmen opened fire with automatic weapons at concertgoers near Moscow on Friday, killing at least 60 people and injuring 145 in an attack claimed by Islamic State militants. In the deadliest attack in Russia since the 2004 Beslan school siege, gunmen sprayed civilians with bullets just before Soviet-era rock group “Picnic” was to perform to a full house at the 6,200-seat the Crocus City Hall just west of the capital.

Islamic State, the militant group that once sought control over swathes of Iraq and Syria, claimed responsibility for the attack, the group’s Amaq agency said on Telegram.

The United States has intelligence confirming Islamic State’s claim of responsibility for the shooting, a U.S. official said on Friday. The official said Washington had warned Moscow in recent weeks of the possibility of an attack.

“We did warn the Russians appropriately,” said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity, without providing any additional details.

Russia has yet to say who it thinks is responsible.

DD Geopolitics @DD_Geopolitics – 2:55 UTC · Mar 23, 2024

A month ago (to the day!) at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Victoria “F the EU” Nuland promised that aid to Ukraine would allow it to “accelerate the asymmetric warfare that has been most effective” and that Putin is “sure to face some nasty surprises.”

Nuland left her post as the Deputy Secretary of State 10 days prior to this video. Moscow civilians were killed today in an act of terrorism (asymmetrical warfare).
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Daniel Dumbrill @DanielDumbrill – 8:08 UTC · Feb 16, 2023

Now that the ISIS patches showing up in Armed Forces of Ukraine photos/videos are trending, it’s a good time for me to retweet this thread from last year. The writing was on the wall.

Daniel Dumbrill @DanielDumbrill – 10:08 UTC · Oct 12, 2022

Now Al Qaeda & other Salafist Jihadist groups are reportedly entering Ukraine to fight Russia directly. Coincidentally, last week an ISIS recruiter the Taliban captured said he received funding via Ukraine. The Taliban only released this video domestically. Subtitles by a friend:
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Kim Dotcom @KimDotcom – 21:01 UTC · Mar 22, 2024

Sanctions didn’t work. Billions in weapons didn’t work. Unwavering support didn’t work. Counter-offensive didn’t work. Non-stop propaganda didn’t work.

Rules-based terrorism is all they have left. It won’t work either. It just shows how evil and desperate they are.

Kim Dotcom @KimDotcom – 21:42 UTC · Mar 22, 2024

Was the CIA behind the terror attack near Moscow?
   Yes 74.7%
   No 25.3%
89,899 votes·14 hours left

Koba @Roberto05246129 6:22 UTC . Mar 23, 2024

The identities of four of the six alleged terrorists who carried out the shooting at Crocus City Hall have become known.
1) Nasridinov Makhmadrasul 37 years old
2) Ismonov Rivozhidin 51 years old
3) Safolzoda Shokhinjonn 21 years old
4) Nazarov Rustam 29 years old.
All of them are citizens of Tajikistan.

Al-Qaida/Taliban-linked media campaign frames Islamic State Khurasan as foreign, Tajik groupEurasianetOct 18, 2023

Craig Murray @CraigMurrayOrg – 23:25 UTC · Mar 22, 2024

I have been explaining for years that the US and Israel are behind ISIS.
See it now?

As said previously: Russia. Is. At. War.

Comments

“The Ghost of Russia’s Past Wars Comes Back to Haunt Moscow”
the analysis posits an alleged karmic payback from Russia’s previous wars against Islamists
Posted by: jayc | Mar 24 2024 0:21 utc | 500
I wonder if these people apply the law of karmic payback to their own Western rulers.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2024 3:42 utc | 501

Russia will figure out who’s behind this. 11 suspects will have a lot of computer, telephone and banking data to wade through. The CIA would not have the ability to totally hide their tracks. If there is US/UK involvement they will have made a mistake or two.

Posted by: Sentient | Mar 24 2024 3:44 utc | 502

Larry Johnson’s take on events happening in Moscow:
https://sonar21.com/moscow-terror-attack-rogue-ukrainian-op-or-western-backed

Posted by: WMG | Mar 24 2024 4:13 utc | 503

Wow, the return of these NAFO bots speaks volumes. They lack a certain erudition though, capable only of a series of grade-school puns. My guess is they’re all in a bot farm somewhere. b’s probably asleep or else he’d be deleting them, but the flurry of activity in itself is interesting. Something’s got them rattled.

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 24 2024 4:19 utc | 504

Another example of US media assets setting the narrative, written by CNN’s “International Security Correspondent”:
“The Ghost of Russia’s Past Wars Comes Back to Haunt Moscow”
the analysis posits an alleged karmic payback from Russia’s previous wars against Islamists
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/23/europe/moscow-concert-hall-attack-analysis-intl-cmd/index.html
Posted by: jayc | Mar 24 2024 0:21 utc | 500
This masterpiece by CNN must be utilized to no end by the Russian government. The time has come to openly state that the Anglo-American empire, like its predecessor the Third Reich, has unleashed a racial and ideological war of annihilation. Not only the Russians get what they deserve as this CNN propagandist asserts, but they will suffer more such deserved attacks from “ISIS”. Until they bend the knee, that is.
The first indication that this abominable trope would be used by western propaganda came up with the horrific atrocity in Beslan. Sadistically celebrating the massacre of children, the western MSM suggested that it was well deserved blowback from the war in Chechenya. That was when the Chechens were heroes, before they began to give different vibes as Russian patriots and became villains.
The rhetoric must be ratcheted up a goodly number of notches. The game has now been taken on a whole new level. If the imperialist scum can justify this (and they do), they will justify anything. Therefore, the hammerblow must fall hard and the resolute hand must not relent. The globalist vermin must understand that there will be consequences and the utter destruction of the Maidanist regime is the first step.
This is not some emotional reaction as some might think. The very trope used now in the imperial propaganda means that such horrors and worse are perfectly valid tools to be used by the Anglo-American regime repeatedly and afterwards “explained”, i.e. justified, as “ISIS” giving the Russian people what they deserve.
It goes without saying that the Kremlin must not be caught in the pseudo-legalistic chicaneries of the west and push relentlessly its message both in rhetoric and in deeds. It is of particular importance to successfully promote it in the RoW.

Posted by: Constantine | Mar 24 2024 4:30 utc | 505

Sounds like Bibi after October 7. The cognitive dissonance is strong among MOA commenters. I know, I know, but this is different…
Posted by: tommylotto | Mar 23 2024 20:34 utc | 384
So according to this verminous liberal, the Anglo-American empire is driven by the same motives as the Gazan Palestinians. The Russian government, promoting a multi-cultural society and opposed by neo-Nazisand jihadists, is on the same level with genocidal Zionist supremacists.
Truly, the misanthropic qualities and attachment to falsehood that neoliberals exhibit is a wonder to behold.

Posted by: Constantine | Mar 24 2024 4:36 utc | 506

CIA Recruits ISIS Fighters
https://thecradle.co/articles/cia-recruits-isis-fighters-from-sdf-run-prisons-in-syria-to-fight-in-ukraine-report

Posted by: Fred Gordon | Mar 24 2024 4:36 utc | 507

@ Patroklos | Mar 24 2024 4:19 utc | 563 responding to the current drive-by bar floor pissing we are reading
Yes, showing some real erudite arguments and descriptions of nothing….adding value to the conversation…/NOT!
Reeks of the desperation we are seeing all over, keep doing the same shit in spite of negative results.
What is the marginal utility to consume Winston Smiths?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2024 4:37 utc | 508

Another round of missile strikes upon Ukraine by Russian overnight in two waves.
Wave-1 appears to have been mainly iskanders and geran’s in:
Kharkov – few explosions reported
Kiev – few explosions reported
Wave-2 appears to have been cruise missiles and gerans in:
Kiev – few explosions
Lviv and Stryi 10 (20 missiles and 7 gerans at least) – energy & infrastructure related targets
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/64497
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/64506
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/64502
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/64500

Posted by: knighthawk | Mar 24 2024 4:37 utc | 509

@ knighthawk | Mar 24 2024 4:37 utc | 570 with the updates on Russian bombing of Ukraine…thanks
I see the gloves off with Ukraine by Russia now to precipitate a collapse of the country along with the military. What does unconditional surrender look like in this instance?
Agreement to start negotiations which has been off the table for Z/Ukraine
The first part of that will be stopping the military actions under conditions imposed by Russia, not Ukraine/NATO
Russia is already saying it wants a buffer and around what oblasts remains to be determined by some process Russia will propose/impose.
Barflies need to understand that empire does not control the timing nor outcome of the world’s events anymore and to think any of this will conveniently fit within the coming US (s)election process is delusion….think Dali on heavy drugs coming to delusional Americans and Western folks in general

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2024 4:59 utc | 510

Truly, the misanthropic qualities and attachment to falsehood that neoliberals exhibit is a wonder to behold.
Posted by: Constantine | Mar 24 2024 4:36 utc | 567
It most certainly is a wonder. Les enfants terribles sans histoire, atomiseé, coincés dans une boucle de rétroaction de croyance en l’universalité de leur vision du monde… as Houellbecq might have said.

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 24 2024 5:17 utc | 511

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 24 2024 4:59 utc | 572
Russian statements were before the atrocity. Now, buffer zones etc. are insufficient. The Ukro-Nazi regime has to be pounded to dust. This is not about the outbursts of Medvedev, but about the need to force an outcome to the true instigators of the crime.
For the record, the puppet comedian should not be harmed. He must face the fire either before a tribunal or vy his own troops. But the rest of the leadership is open game. This is definitely the time for consequences towards “decision centers”, aside from the kapo quisling, including foreign personnel in Ukraine, which must be dealt mercilessly.

Posted by: Constantine | Mar 24 2024 5:17 utc | 512

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 24 2024 0:21 utc | 499
You really want to have a regular CAP close enough to hit them when NATO AEW can give the routes and targeting data over to AFU to ambush them? Are you a USAF general?

Posted by: badjoke | Mar 24 2024 5:23 utc | 513

RE: “For the record, the puppet comedian should not be harmed. He must face the fire either before a tribunal or vy his own troops. But the rest of the leadership is open game. This is definitely the time for consequences towards “decision centers”, aside from the kapo quisling, including foreign personnel in Ukraine, which must be dealt mercilessly.”
Posted by: Constantine | Mar 24 2024 5:17 utc | 576
Agreed. Obviously the US wants Russia to finish off their project Ukraine since they’re finished anyways, and they can walk as it’s obvious all the $$ is gone for the project.
But, I wouldn’t be fooled in any way that the terror attacks will cease as they’re not contrived, financed or manufactured from Kiev anyways.
I think Russia understands that it will need to go into the UK/US heartland itself for its rightful Justice. I expect that the U.S./UK will see some troubling things in their own nations coming up.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 24 2024 5:35 utc | 514

Statement from Zelensky about the massacre at Crocus. I note that he posted this on his Telegram in English and did not do his usual double post of one post in Ukrainian and one in English.
I have no commentary – there is no written language suitable to convey what I wish to say in response.
——
“What happened yesterday in Moscow is obvious, both Putin and other scoundrels simply try to blame everything on someone else. They always resort to the same methods. It’s been done before. There have been blown-up houses, shootings, and explosions. And they always blame others.
They have come to Ukraine, burn our cities – and try to blame Ukraine. They torture, rape people – and accuse them. They have brought hundreds of thousands of their terrorists here, to Ukrainian land, they fight against us, and they don’t care what’s happening inside their own country. Yesterday all this happened, and this absolutely miserable Putin, instead of attending to his own citizens of Russia, addressing them, remained silent for a day – thinking about how to link this with Ukraine. Everything is absolutely predictable.
Those hundreds of thousands of Russians who are now killing on Ukrainian land would surely be enough to stop any terrorists. And if the Russians are ready to silently die in “Crocus Halls” and not ask any questions to their security and intelligence agencies, then Putin will try to turn such a situation to his personal advantage again.
Terrorists must always lose. I thank everyone who truly defends life! I’m grateful to all our people who are fighting against terror. And around the world, we must defend against those who consider people merely expendable.”

Posted by: Down South | Mar 24 2024 5:36 utc | 515

Link for the above
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/92402

Posted by: Down South | Mar 24 2024 5:36 utc | 516

Posted by: liveload | Mar 24 2024 1:57 utc | 528
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TROLL BAIT from a neo-Nazi, neo-Zio.
Posted by: Ed | Mar 24 2024 2:03 utc | 532
What a bunch of bullshit. You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about asshole. Neo Zio LOLOLOLOL
What an IDIOT.
Fucking toolbag

Posted by: liveload | Mar 24 2024 5:38 utc | 517

As usual, ask the question…..cui bono?
Sympathies pour in, rather useful if Russia wants to go to the next GWOT level.
9/11, 7/7, 10/7, 22/3….nope, no simple mathematical clue there. keep digging.

Posted by: windship | Mar 24 2024 5:40 utc | 518

We confirm the information of our colleagues that the American ambassador warned the Head of the OP Ermak at this meeting that the security situation with them and the entire Ukrainian elite is now under a huge question.
Previously, there were rumors that there was a promise from Putin that he would not destroy the top of the Ukrainian state (Putin promised the Israeli Prime Minister, Turkish President Erdogan, Western leaders and sheikhs that Zelensky would not be “blowed up,” which is why Ze and Ermak traveled so freely everywhere) . Now, no one can guarantee this.
Everyone knows that Putin is a man of his word. Most likely, he has now canceled his “behind the scenes promise.”
That is why the entire Ukrainian elite is now on heartburn. The first targets are most likely the SBU and GUR, but we’ll see who they start with.
We advise ordinary Ukrainians to be careful and take care of themselves. The times are now very difficult and dangerous. Anything can happen.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17518

It turns out that more than 20 missile strikes were carried out on the city of Stryi in the Lviv region alone. It burns intensely and can be seen for kilometers.
According to the data, the arrivals were:
1. for fuel and lubricants warehouses and hangars.
2. At the airfield and air defense, which is located a little outside the city, guarding an important transshipment base or some “workshops” for the production of “something”.
3. On energy/gas infrastructure
4. There was a certain training center near the airfield. Over the past month, a lot of people have been brought in and taken away (perhaps there is a training center/training ground there).
Locals report that there are a lot of ambulances around the city.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17521

Posted by: Down South | Mar 24 2024 5:40 utc | 519

This is Russia’s war of independence. Independence of the West.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 24 2024 5:57 utc | 520

There is an electricity in the air my friends. Everyone is waiting for the hammer blow and the trolls are on edge.
O tempora, o mores…

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 24 2024 5:58 utc | 521

such idiots. Fools stayed to watch the terrorists kill. Post on TikTok as they die.
https://t.me/intelslava/56511​

Posted by: Surferket | Mar 24 2024 6:07 utc | 522

Posted by: Down South | Mar 24 2024 5:40 utc | 585

Thanks for the update.
Regarding #3 energy infrastructure – given the big and sustained fire\plume I saw in one video.
If I had to guess what around Stryi that would go boom and have sustained fire like that, the underground natgas storage fields.
Several of injection\pump stations exist on the edge of and in the forest north of Stryi, one major (lat 49.35 lon 23.90), and 3 smaller but significant ones (49.384 | 23.919), I presume this makes up a significant leg of the Bilche–Volytsko–Ugerske storage (someone correct if they know more about what named site those belong). Just a guess at least one of those was hit with multiple impacts.
Interestingly USAID RFP’d out a contract last week on US taxpayers dime for some consults to go help them store even more there and better integrate their storage for-rent services with Europe even more than they already are. The rabbit holes this conflict takes one down sometimes. lol

Posted by: knighthawk | Mar 24 2024 6:29 utc | 523

Question, Is there a Slavic cultural tradition of fart fighting?
If so how did this evolve into culinary fart sniffing?
Posted by: Jerr | Mar 24 2024 6:15 utc | 591
Ok, so, I think we’re getting off topic here y’all.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 24 2024 7:00 utc | 524

There is an electricity in the air my friends. Everyone is waiting for the hammer blow and the trolls are on edge.
O tempora, o mores…
Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 24 2024 5:58 utc | 589
Cicero! P man, you are indispensable.
Oh tempora, indeed! These are some fucked up times were living in.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 24 2024 7:03 utc | 525

What concern do you have if you KILL a fat criminal, scammer, if she and her family die from a bomb or from an overdose?
ZERO
NADA!
É a vida louca.
Posted by: Rick | Mar 24 2024 5:27 utc | 578
Go easy on the stimulants, Ricker.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 24 2024 7:06 utc | 526

You call it “islamophobia” and I call it “pattern recognition”. Sure, not all muslims are terrorists, but a hell of a lot of terrorists are muslims.
Posted by: ABOBA | Mar 23 2024 23:20 utc | 476
I hate to be the one to inform you but your pattern recognition is f***d.
Most terrorists are Americans and Izzraelis, followed closely by Brits.
Most Muslims involved in terrorism are collaborating with the Anglos.
These are facts.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2024 7:08 utc | 527

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 23 2024 20:05 utc | 370
That’s your contribution to this day of mourning, you americanised shitbag? Fade away for good, along with others of the same diseased imagination and lack of manners.

Posted by: Michael A | Mar 24 2024 7:14 utc | 528

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 23 2024 20:53 utc | 396
Don’t mistake the ‘tea-boys’ for the masters.
The bluebloods have retreated to their lairs.
Leaving the colonial serfs to mind the estate.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2024 7:14 utc | 529

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 23 2024 20:05 utc | 370
That’s your contribution to this day of mourning, you americanised shitbag? Fade away for good, along with others of the same diseased imagination and lack of manners.
Posted by: Michael A | Mar 24 2024 7:14 utc | 597
Whoa there, Mike. We like old Peter.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 24 2024 7:19 utc | 530

You call it “islamophobia” and I call it “pattern recognition”. Sure, not all muslims are terrorists, but a hell of a lot of terrorists are muslims.
Posted by: ABOBA | Mar 23 2024 23:20 utc | 476
I hate to be the one to inform you but your pattern recognition is f***d.
Most terrorists are Americans and Izzraelis, followed closely by Brits.
Most Muslims involved in terrorism are collaborating with the Anglos.
These are facts.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2024 7:08 utc | 596
Thanks AB. I knew this guy was a sneaky POS.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 24 2024 7:20 utc | 531

Posted by: Down South | Mar 24 2024 5:40 utc | 585
Re: #3 energy
Major USG storage pumping\injections sites just north of Stryi (see the big forest area) the likely target, would be a double whammy, both revenue generator for ukr as well as less storage available for europe to rent.

Posted by: knighthawk | Mar 24 2024 7:27 utc | 532

https://thecradle.co/articles/white-house-sets-goal-to-derail-iran-pakistan-gas-pipeline-official
Is it true, when white house says a pipeline will be derailed, that it will be? Nord Stream II pipeline was derailed and so too will be the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline..
Backtrack the cause of each war since 1897 and you find the same driving force: “economic competition” and you find the same western hegemons involved in the events that initiate, feed and promote such war. [Propaganda promoting war originates from, and is distributed by, the private interest facing threat of competition].
The nation state, co opted by the private economic interest, is charged to conduct the war against the nation or set of nations that host, harbor, or enable the competition. Those in charge of the nation states are not elected (yes they were processed through an election, but winning candidates were, before the election, already the designated winners). The nation state system has provided privately owned or controlled commercial giants with hegemonic monopoly power.
Private commercial use of the resources, manpower, and leadership of the nation state to conduct war against competition somewhere in the world is now standard policy. (The nation state is the weapon used glob-ly by private commercial interest to eliminate competition or threat of competition). The foreign policies of the co opted nation states are about discovery, interception and elimination of: “potential” or “actual” competition to some hidden, but real private commercial interest. The war in Ukraine against Russia is no exception.
This weaponized condition of the nation state provides some insight as to why the governed people are not informed, the activities of the nation that governs them is not about the welfare of those who are the governed, its about denying economic competition to some competitor some where in the world.

Posted by: snake | Mar 24 2024 7:32 utc | 533

Spontaneous combustion of the entire roof is not an option. Likely multiple perpetrators, some of them in custody.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 24 2024 0:22 utc | 501
Logic at the drunken bar?
Videos from people running out show an enormous glittering atrium, marble floors etc. According to Izvestia the four were there inside the building for 10 minutes from 20:03 to 20:13. They had only small backpacks and guns.
Even if they didn’t kill anyone and had devoted all their time to arson, they wouldn’t have been able to collapse the building in the way they did.
For some odd reason they’ve released the torture-interrogation videos of three men and a teenager. I always hire on telegram for odd jobs such as blowing up a shopping mall for $5k.
As a different commenter said, the American public has gobbled down the Special K cornflakes explanation.
The Russian government hasn’t saiduch at all as far as I know. But for some reason a steady flow of gruesome videos has been fed to the Russian public which they, along with the bar have gobbled up with greedy relish as a logic-free explanation.
Who knew it was that easy to blow up a huge building? Most deaths seem to have happened from the fire and collapse and not from the initial shooting.

Posted by: Pq | Mar 24 2024 7:33 utc | 534

Now that we know the “ISIS” angle was just a ruse, I’m sure Amaq HQ is located in Langley
Posted by: xor | Mar 23 2024 21:14 utc | 409
The PR agency for “ISIS”, SITE Intelligence is run by an Iraqi born Israeli called Rita Katz. It’s in Bethesda. It was started in 2002 to create “terrorists” just after the War of Terror kicked off. A War of Terror needs controllable terrorists in order to delegitimize genuine resistance groups and tar all with the same brush.
The site used to be open to the public, you could browse all ISIS activity. However one time they reported an “ISIS” attack before it happened. Oops. Now it’s by registration only. For “intelligence professionals”.
ALL info on “ISIS” is fed to Western media and think tanks from SITE Intelligence.

Posted by: Pq | Mar 24 2024 7:41 utc | 535

Posted by: Julian | Mar 24 2024 3:17 utc | 543

…Russia doesn’t care about them precisely because they have ZERO impact on Russia.
Russia would be perfectly happy for Ukraine to keep up these pointless attacks.


Posted by: Julian | Mar 24 2024 3:23 utc | 544

…The US is very happy for Ukraine to NATO hitting Russian oil and gas infrastructure – this story is merely for domestic US consumption.
There is no reason for the Ukrainians to stop doing this targeting. None at all – and certainly not because of disinfo bs like this!!

Sounds like you are describing a perfect win-win situation.
While we’re on the subject, I’ve been looking for some clear information on the number of refineries Russia operates and how many have been struck. Maybe you can help me?

Posted by: robin | Mar 24 2024 7:42 utc | 536

Good morning to the bar.
Quite some commotion this night here. Interestingly, the langley bots always going silent when it is night time in the US.
On wonders why that is, i thought AWS has a better uptime to run the bot farm.
Guess the sys admin deserves some sleep from time to time or has he been replaced by a robot too?
Anyway, while we had visit from the derailment department, Lvov and Kiev were visited by Mr. Geran, Mr. Kinzhal and their colleagues..
Quite the event it seems, from several channels.
Lastly, M. Zakharova stated what was concluded here as well: whoever is the actual customer of the terror attack on crocus hall, the statements given by the West should be seen as evidence in this case.
The hamfisted way this event is spun in media makes me think that this was not something prepared for in advance.
Or am i just too optimistic and just saying ‘wasn’t us, was isis’ is the best they can come up with?

Posted by: kspr | Mar 24 2024 7:43 utc | 537

re 604
The tell is the speed and total coherence of the western media explanation of events. Such comprehensive reporting out of Russia in other chaotic events is rare from my observation.
This is from back in the 90’s but it lays out the sort of fuckery the good ole defender of democracy has been getting up to at least since they assassinated Kennedy, An interview between Ted Gunderson, ex FBI Bureau Chief LA and Chip Tatum, Ex CIA operative and whistle blower. Its truly gob smacking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeUZE0Exd90

Posted by: eagle eye | Mar 24 2024 7:46 utc | 538

Questions about Crocous theater. How did the fire manage to spread so quickly? Wall curtains highly flamable? If so why is this allowed? Fire control system/sprinklers – activated? Non functional? Not installed? Sabotaged?
Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 23 2024 23:00 utc | 462
Just random speculation…
Azeris operate a lot of supermarkets in Russia (they have a cartel in St. Petersburg, possibly elsewhere too), and from my years of shopping in those places, I can say that they’ll only spend the absolute minimum on anything. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s no fire control systems at all.
I also stayed at a hotel/hostel run by azeris on a few occasions. The kitchen had about four spoons for several dozen guests, each one worn into a blunt stub, and two knives without handles. Chipped filthy mugs, broken doors, pans worn into scratches and bent out of shape. Either that’s how much they value their Russian customers, or they expect (project) that people will steal anything that’s not broken garbage.
The Russian-run hostels I’ve visited were mostly clean and had plenty of new spoons that no one seemed to steal. So there’s a big difference in mentality.
Or then the fire was expedited by someone else at the concert hall.

Posted by: Michael A | Mar 24 2024 7:47 utc | 539

Sure, not all muslims are terrorists, but a hell of a lot of terrorists are muslims. Why you defend this scum I have no idea.
Posted by: ABOBA | Mar 23 2024 23:20 utc | 476
You’re so caught up in your bigotry you missed the point that I am against extracting confessions through torture and posting it to Telegram. I would thought that’s for banana republics. Either you believe in law and protocol or you don’t. Otherwise we end up in a state of lawlessness. Which is what the Global North is. You can’t stop crime by behaving like a criminal.
“not all muslims are terrorists, but a hell of a lot of terrorists are muslims”…. don’t even try substituting the word Jew for Muslim in relation to the Gaza genocide.
As for NATO war crimes over decades and Vietnam etc. are we supposed to say that not all Christians are terrorists but 99% of global terrorists since WWII have been “Christians”???
Bigoted yahoos are the primary cheerleaders of endless war.

Posted by: Pq | Mar 24 2024 7:50 utc | 540

Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2024 7:21 utc | 601
Thanks very much 🙂

Posted by: Oui | Mar 24 2024 7:50 utc | 541

Posted by: WMG | Mar 24 2024 4:13 utc | 562
Larry Johnson:

I think the Islamic terrorism claim is a red herring and designed to shift attention away from the other indicators that some in the West, at a minimum, had foreknowledge of this attack.

133 dead, four asassins. That is 33 killed per assassin. People who are willing to kill dozens indiscrimately for $5400 are not found on every street corner.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 24 2024 8:10 utc | 542

133 dead, four asassins. That is 33 killed per assassin. People who are willing to kill dozens indiscrimately for $5400 are not found on every street corner.
Posted by: Passerby | Mar 24 2024 8:10 utc | 612
The building collapse was not done by these four and most died from the building collapse not the shooting. The four shooters were only in one part of the building for ten minutes and it’s a huge building. People in other parts would not know what is going on. You would even be able to get to the roof and back in 10 minutes.
There is a new video of the four men shooting from close up….but they blurred the faces. Clearly the four people whose torture was posted to social media are only to quieten the Russian public.
If you think about all the Prigozhin drama, maybe this was something very serious by mercenaries in NATO’s pay who are highly connected within Russia. It clearly was not the pudgy teenager who confessed after being stabbed in the eye or the one who confessed after his ear was cut off.

Posted by: pq | Mar 24 2024 8:30 utc | 543

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Frontline #Summary for the Morning of 24 March 2024; pub. 10:43⚡️
🔹On the #Zaporozhye Front, fierce fighting continues with the use of long range weapons in #Rabotino and northwest of #Verbovoye. The AFU tried to counterattack on the latter. ⚠️Without success. The frontline without significant changes. (Fig. 1)
🔹On the #Donetsk Front, after the liberation of #Tonenkoye and #Orlovka, the RF Armed Forces are developing their offensive towards #Semyonovka, on the eastern outskirts of which there is a water barrier.
📌 The capture of this settlement will facilitate the task of liberating #Berdychi, where oncoming fighting continues. (Fig. 2)
🔹In the #Bakhmut Direction. The RF Armed Forces conducted assault operations on the western outskirts of #Ivanovskoye (#Krasnoye). There ⚠️are advances.
💥 Artillery and aviation of the Russian forces are actively working on the enemy positions in Chasov Yar. (Fig. 3)
🔹On the #Luhansk Front, the AFU are trying to counterattack in the area of #Terny, in order to recapture positions captured earlier by Russian troops. The AFU also counterattacked in #Sinkovka. ⚠️Without success. (Fig. 4)

https://t.me/sitreports/25018

Posted by: Down South | Mar 24 2024 8:37 utc | 544

Posted by: Multipolar Panda | Mar 24 2024 2:48 utc | 539
Thanks, posts like this make MoA the best blog. Worth wading through all the nonsense troll posts that try to discredit this blog. Thanks again b for all your efforts.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 24 2024 8:40 utc | 545

Judging by the analysis of the events of the last three weeks, someone is deliberately provoking a rise in temperature in the Ukrainian crisis.
Therefore:
1. Events will boil over for two weeks and return to normal again.
2. The Ukrainian crisis will reach its maximum intensity, there will be massive and constant tragedies.
Be careful. The junction is very close…
The source explains that the Ukrainian crisis has reached a kind of impasse, where directors need a new increase for two things.
1. Get money to further finance the crisis.
2. Reset the Ukrainian crisis until the Taiwan case begins.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17524

Posted by: Down South | Mar 24 2024 8:40 utc | 546

Posted by: Unnamed | Mar 24 2024 3:36 utc | 547
There is nothing reported by Tass on a massive attack on Sevastopol. They report drone attacks on Samara and Bryansk overnight which were reportedly dealt with by air defences. That post you dived in on, still looks like a complete spoof coming as it did amongst a Saturday night troll fest. You show up in the troll fest and start having a go a “barflies” which your air speech marks. You still haven’t provided a citation to a credible news source to back your claim that the spoof looking report has any basis to it. And if it turns out to be verified and we be side attacked another side during a military conflict…what do you want? A gold star? An ice cream? There are super reliable people here down south and unimperator who have aggregated and reliably reported news from the conflict zone day in day out for years…and being reliable and trustworthy they always include the source of the report. Unlike you.
Oh footnote. Of course you’re Slava Ukraine fascist Nazi bastard, genocide cheering troll. And I was correct about you all the long. Not that that is important. Let’s hope b promptly blocks your bullshit. Goodbye trolls.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 24 2024 8:42 utc | 547

Nuland and her prophecy before getting her fat ass fired
Sources in the US talking about how sleepy Biden and co can’t fully control ukranistani decisions
Israel very angry (presumably) at Russia because of its support to Yemen
My guess is a rogue faction within the US+ budanov + Likud/mossad

Posted by: Mariátegui | Mar 24 2024 8:51 utc | 548

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 24 2024 8:42 utc | 617
Well said. Some bubbly Sunday humour in these grim times.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2024 8:51 utc | 549

There is nothing reported by Tass on a massive attack on Sevastopol.
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 24 2024 8:42 utc | 617
10 missiles intercepted, but apparently at least one hit something.
“Besides the child, a woman was wounded in the arm when debris from the downed missiles hit a five-story house, the governor said, adding that over 10 projectiles had been destroyed. One person was killed and four others were injured as a result of the attack on the city”
( sputnikglobe.com/20240324/air-defenses-destroy-several-targets-over-crimeas-sevastopol—governor-1117514812.html )

Posted by: rk | Mar 24 2024 8:54 utc | 550

Re: ISIS-K, torture,etc.
ISIS and Al Queda are, and have always been, tools used by the US to further US interests including creating a new Pearl Harbor type crisis to further the Deep State initiatives both outside and inside the US. All of this has been well established and doesn’t warrant much debate. Never forget roughly 90% of all terrorist acts are carried out by US-sponsored terrorists to benefit US interests both inside the US and outside against declared or undeclared enemies of the US. The same is true for the 5 eyes nations who all are subordinated to the US. This episode smells like an MI-6 operation but again it is at the behest of the US. There is nothing the US is not capable of doing which we see everywhere all at once now. They are desperate and cannot allow Russia to win in Ukraine so everything and anything is now possible. The same is true in Israel and the ME. At this point, it is up to Russia to decide how and where to escalate. They need to get back in front instead of reacting. The reversal of the moratorium of the death penalty is a good sign of where this is headed. If MQ-9 Reapers start to get shot down, or better still AWACS over Poland or Romania, then we will understand how things have changed. If so, nothing is beyond Russia’s current capabilities. Ramstein and all those new bases in the EU may end up being Kinzhaled. We just might get to see the new 9M730 Burevestnik nuclear-powered cruise missile with hypersonic warhead take-out targets in the US. The US is completely defenseless against this type of weapon which can circle the globe indefinitely and hit from any direction. The US defenses, weak as they are, are only aimed at the polar north. But, I think Russia will not go all out. I am American thus think that way as we are all conditioned to do. Russians, and especially Putin, act with great restraint. However, this just might be the last straw for them. I think they are super pissed so must hold back deliberately until their emotions get under control. If Medvedev were President we would be in nuclear war already.
The fact these miserable SOB’s were unfortunate enough to get captured by Chechans near the Ukrainian border is immaterial. These guys hate them beyond belief so it is more interesting they remained alive for real information gathering. I believe though it isn’t all that important as in the end it will be Ukraine operating under orders of the US who are responsible and this will be dealt with in time. Whether this is true or not is immaterial. Russia will now have Carte Blanc to do whatever is necessary to end this on their terms. This will now move from a Special Military Operation to a full-scale War. Who all that involves is a larger question.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Mar 24 2024 8:56 utc | 551

German media at full swing with “a) It was IS fighters” and “b) Putin disinf. campaign, pointing to 404”
The interrogation videos of those 4 guys, their claim “1 M. rub. via Telegram” aren’t a point.

Posted by: Tortuosit | Mar 24 2024 8:58 utc | 552

Has anyone put out a timeline with sources of the (false) IS-K claim?
All I recall was origin an Islamic State claim on a terror website Amaq and only got attention in the media after (of course) CNN got a confirmation from “unnamed” intelligence source … the Black Box of lies, disinformation and warmongering.
… short statement published by ISIS-affiliated news agency Amaq on Telegram on Friday. It did not provide evidence to support the claim.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/22/europe/crocus-moscow-shooting/index.html
Propagated further by Alex Marquardt
@MarquardtA @CNN
Chief National Security Correspondent | Ex-@ABC in Beirut/Jerusalem/Moscow
“Since November there has been “fairly specific” intelligence that ISIS-K wanted to carry out attacks in Russia, sources tell me, @NatashaBertrand, @jmhansler.”
This is complete BS by Chief Reporter. ISIS-K doesn’t exist. Contradiction in terms as ISIS or ISIL are IS in the Levant, Iraq and Syria. It’s leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, ex-detainee US Army in Abu Ghraib, was booted out of Al Qaeda due to senseless cruelty. IS-K or ISKP, Islamic State of the Khorasan Province are the Al Qaeda veterans of Afghanistan region. Their targets are mostly Shia Muslims in that “caliphate” … see terror attacks in Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan and district Baluchistan. The latter terrorists are affiliated and funded by the CIA under George W. Bush at the time.

Posted by: Oui | Mar 24 2024 8:59 utc | 553

Hezbollah announcement on the Moscow terrorist attacks:

Hezbollah firmly condemned the bloody, terrorist attack carried out at the Crocus City Hall complex near Moscow, which left dozens of victims and injuries.
In a statement issued on Saturday, Hezbollah voiced sympathy with the families of the victims, offering condolences to the Russian leadership and friendly people.
Hezbollah also expressed full humanitarian solidarity with the Russians in face of the painful tragedy.

(source: Al Manar English)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 24 2024 9:02 utc | 554

TASS calls attack on Sevastopol “massive”. Internet says 12 Scalp/SS were used. Probably flown directly from Poland, which explains the other “massive” attack in Lvov region, later.
“On Sunday night, Sevastopol became a target of a massive air attack as a result of which one person was killed and four were injured. The city governor, Mikhail Razvozhaev, said that the government of Sevastopol will provide all necessary support to the relatives of the deceased.”
( tass.com/defense/1765011 )

Posted by: rk | Mar 24 2024 9:08 utc | 555

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Mar 24 2024 8:56 utc | 621
Thanks
Glad I checked in to read your succinct analysis
You are missed
More please

Posted by: ld | Mar 24 2024 9:13 utc | 556

@Arch Bungle #601
Please send this list to b’s email. He doesn’t always read the comments. It will be easier for him to identify and remove the troll’s posts because he can see the IPs.
(Of course, it is looooong overdue that b enabled basic registration to prevent this.)

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 9:32 utc | 557

Obama Slips Up: “We’re speeding up training of ISIL forces”
not so hidden hand

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 24 2024 9:32 utc | 558

The fact these miserable SOB’s were unfortunate enough to get captured by Chechans near the Ukrainian border
Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Mar 24 2024 8:56 utc | 621
There is absolutely no evidence that the people who captured the alleged suspects were Chechen. All these rumours are being disseminated on social media and RT etc. while the Russian government figures out what is really going on.
A new video has emerged purportedly released by ISIS-K’s PR agency, otherwise known as SITE Intelligence based in Bethesda Maryland and run by an Iraqi Israeli called Rita Katz. This video appears to show the shooters from close up except their faces have been blurred and their voices distorted.
Their body types are different from the four captured and tortured by Russian soldiers and paraded for public consumption to the Russian public. And why blur the faces and distort voices if the “culprits” have already been paraded on Telegram and elsewhere?
Clearly the Russian government has authorized the media to “unofficially” disseminate photos of four men who have nothing to do with it. To say you were hired on Telegram for $5,000 is just nonsense.
Most importantly, the four were only in the complex from 20:03 to 20:13 according to Izvestia. Two had small backpacks. If you accept the Russian narrative, you need to explain how a huge shopping complex can have a roof collapsed by four men in ten minutes while they are also busy shooting people.
we have SITE intelligence in Bethesda Maryland (aka Amaq) releasing “ISIS” videos from inside Crocus and we have the Russian forces unofficially leaking videos of themselves torturing four random men (one of whom is a teenager). And the body types do not match. So clearly both the Russian and US governments are feeding separate narratives to their respective sheeple. Clearly the US is over interested in this issue.
People seem to have forgotten the thouands of war crimes committed by Russians against Chechnya in the 1990s. I mean if Russians hated the Chechens so much back then, why didn’t they just let them be independent? And yes maybe the CIA was certainly involved in funnelling arms but most Russians I’ve met are incredibly racist towards people from the republics and this goes back to the USSR days.

Posted by: pq | Mar 24 2024 9:34 utc | 559

Old Microbiologist | Mar 24 2024 8:56 utc | 621
Magnificent to see you post.
Thanks m8. Due to you I vigorously avoided the experimental gene therapy clotshot.
For which I will forever be grateful and in your debt.
And yes, pertaining to topic. Terror groups are intel agency toys. To be pulled off the shelf, wound up, batteries installed, and awaaaay, we go!

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 24 2024 9:48 utc | 560

BREAKING:
ISIS-Kiev leader Zelenski is making an announcement under heavy bombardment of Kiev.
https://twitter.com/cirnosad/status/1771740523285348570

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 24 2024 10:00 utc | 561

The victims of the terrorists are just victims of this war. And this is a total war.
Russia should continue slowly as the collective west wants to speed the war up.

Posted by: vargas | Mar 24 2024 10:11 utc | 562

Posted by: pq | Mar 24 2024 9:34 utc | 630
Please provide public links to the photographic and video material you are referring to in order that others can make the same like-for-like comparison you claim to be making. Specifically evidence of a mismatch between the shooters and captives.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 24 2024 10:14 utc | 563

@Lev Davidovich #617, responding to Unnamed (emphasis mine):

There is nothing reported by Tass on a massive attack on Sevastopol.

Oh footnote. Of course you’re Slava Ukraine fascist Nazi bastard, genocide cheering troll. And I was correct about you all the long. Not that that is important. Let’s hope b promptly blocks your bullshit. Goodbye trolls.

Meanwhile, in reality:
Condition of two people injured in air attack on Sevastopol stable — city governor (TASS, March 24, 2024) (emphasis mine)

On Sunday night, Sevastopol became a target of a massive air attack as a result of which one person was killed and four were injured
SEVASTOPOL, March 24. /TASS/. Two of the four people who were injured in an air attack on Sevastopol remain in the hospital, their condition is assessed as stable, the press service of the city governor told TASS.
“Of the four [those injured in the attack], two were taken to hospital, their condition is stable,” the agency’s source said.
On Sunday night, Sevastopol became a target of a massive air attack as a result of which one person was killed and four were injured. The city governor, Mikhail Razvozhaev, said that the government of Sevastopol will provide all necessary support to the relatives of the deceased.

Will you now apologize to Unnamed for your baseless smear?

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 10:17 utc | 564

The idea to start shooting, killing and wounding some people, torch the place and then haul ass is just brilliant. The fire has loads of time to spread since no firefighter will enter the building. Clearing the building from shooters and traps while not collateraling hostages takes a long time, even trained military needs tight coordination and descent squads to perform that feat.
So my assumption is a long planned attack, nicely organized by a large competent team with ressources. Why Russias intelligence did not pick anything up is open for discussion.
However, all the stories around the presented Crocus attackers do not add up, something whacky is going on here. Why degrade them live on camera, why catch them conveniently on the road to Ukraine (still wearing the same outfit and driving the same car), why leak information everywhere. This just does not match with the professional preparation and excecution of the attack.

Posted by: Gonzo | Mar 24 2024 10:23 utc | 565

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 10:17 utc | 635
Using a salvo of 10 or more Storm Shadow missiles, of which most are downed far before the target, a few disintegrate in the air above a town wounding some people, and one finally striking an office building can hardly be described as a victory. It is more organizational terrorism on behalf of Nato and exposes military impotency.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 24 2024 10:25 utc | 566

@milton 209
I noted the very plane you mentioned. I did find it interesting, but I didn’t really follow it up, and I’m not sure what its ultimate destination was. However, it had flown from the UK, and mostly likely from a USAF base. Maybe the terrorists after their training were on the plane and then inserted into Russia.
For now all we have are repetitions and flights of fancy mixed in with usual conspiracy theories. Now we must wait for the results of the interrogations to be announced.
The only thing we do know for certain is that the Terrorists were Tajiks. Who were they working for?
Unlike a few commenters I believe ISIS’s involvement in the terrorist attack is genuine.
The question then is who paid this ISIS franchise to carry out the attack. That’s what the Russian investigators will be endeavouring to find out.
The collective West want Russia to react disproportionately kill Ukrainian civilians and create a humanitarian disaster which will allow western forces to enter Ukraine.
Two years of the SMO have shown us Russia wont dance to the western tune.
This atrocity will not deviate the Russian’s from grinding the Ukrainian armed forces into the ground.

Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Mar 24 2024 10:27 utc | 567

There is only one way around the mess that these threads are becoming, that is for regular posters to sign off their posts with a PGP signature and their public key so readers dubious about the provenance of a particular post can check it and ascertain that it is genuine.
That will not stop trolls from generating new signatures & public keys sure, but only for those unfamiliar with the details of the poster’s previous signature, everyone else will see it is a forgery & call it out plus a script that would enable b to sort wheat from chaff would be trivial. This entails a little effort from us including b but the end result would be a simple way for both readers and b to screen out arseholes without any effort much less time getting wasted on ensuring veracity..

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 24 2024 10:33 utc | 568

UK Jeremy Hunt Chancellor.. why him???. today burbling that Russia is creating clouds of info propaganda to direct the attack response against Ukraine…..has he woken up to the more “highly likely” knowledge that UK knows Ukraine hires and operates ISIS terrorists… there could be a traceable connection to more direct UK participation?

Posted by: Jo | Mar 24 2024 10:37 utc | 569

@anon2020 #634
The clothing of the detained terrorists matched to the clothing in the group photo they’ve made before the attack: https://t.me/genshtab24/52032
(The ISIS flag behind them, of course, is not a proof of anything. Their handlers who made them believe they were working for ISIS also made them do this “pledge to ISIS” photo.)

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 10:37 utc | 570

Darya Dugin assassinated after a festival …crocus is just another progressive step up????
Ukraine also denied involvement describing Russia findings as propaganda from a fictional world …..similar denial pattern ..any similarities re patterns of using the car ..cf car in Dugin case
License plate numbers were reportedly changed on that vehicle three times; with plates from Donetsk (DPR), Kazakhstan, and Ukraine all used at various times on it.

Posted by: Jo | Mar 24 2024 10:52 utc | 571

Russian journalist and political scientist Aleksey Chadayev on the problem of “biodrones”:

Observing the “war of interpretations” around Crocus, I decided to say several important things on air, which I will repeat here.
1. The fact that the entire state media rushed to limit the discussion of migrants is understandable and not surprising, but that does not make it less humiliating. And it is more likely to lead to the opposite effect: a new split between the authorities and citizens, after the recent consolidation around the flag in the elections.
2. The fact that in the case of Crocus it’s not about migrants, but about “programmers” of living bombs (which I also insist on), does not negate the fact that the migrant environment is a natural and most pliable breeding ground for recruitment. And an increase in the number of migrants automatically means an increase in the risks of such attacks.
3. On the other hand, the terrorist Tryopova who killed Tatarskiy and the aunties who tried to fill the ballot boxes at polling stations with brilliant green, are NOT migrants—but they were brainwashed according to exactly the same scenario. That is, these are two different problems—the problem of migrants and the problem of “living bombs” created by enemy “NLPers.” To mix them into one means, firstly, to act according to the enemy’s scenario and, secondly, to solve neither one nor the other.
4. The problem of migrants must be solved. But it cannot be solved by restrictive measures at the border alone. It is necessary to change the economic model—achieving a situation where the use of slave labor is unprofitable, costly and dangerous, and everyone who whines about the “shortage of labor” are viewed as lobbyists and scammers trying to maximize their profits at the expense of the public.
5. The problem of manipulators also needs to be solved, and no less urgently. The authors of such “scenarios” as Crocus City Hall must be found and eliminated as quickly and accurately as possible. But it is much more important to hit the communication infrastructure—all these “preachers,” or “call center employees” by another name, etc. In short, to hit the “good propaganda machine,” as one of these “preachers” [Navalnyy — S] was calling his call center in one of the past historical eras. And this must be done without dwelling too much on what exactly this machine is promoting: the fight for freedom, quick enrichment or religious extremism. All of these are nothing more than versions or varieties of “scripts,” the ultimate goal of which is the same—replacing one’s own will with the will of the “mentor,” followed by the inevitable stage of transition to performing “missions.”

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 11:00 utc | 572

Remember the US embassy in Russia warned 8. March its own citizens about terror in Moscow concert venues?

🇷🇺One of the terrorists was in Crocus on March 7.
Most likely, he conducted reconnaissance of the area, inspected the premises and planned a terrorist attack.
The photo was taken by a photographer working at the event that day.
After the terrorists were detained, he recognized him in the photograph.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/105728

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 24 2024 11:03 utc | 573

@unimperator #637:

Using a salvo […] can hardly be described as a victory.

Yes, and where do you see me—or Unnamed, or Innuendo, who posted about the attack—describing it as a “victory”?
Unnamed was quite correct in his/her comment #547:

“Massive attack” on Sevastopol now officially confirmed by Russia itself. Looks like the “obviously fake report” posted by a “troll”, which I according to you “barflies” made a fool myself by diving into, was right on the mark (despite my own misgivings). Maybe you “barflies” on your high horses aren’t as smart as you think you are.

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 11:12 utc | 574

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 10:37 utc | 642
I don’t doubt what you say.
The other poster (pq) is claimed that it can be seen from images / video that the border captives and concert shooters are different people. They should link to the relevant images and video to support that claim.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 24 2024 11:18 utc | 575

Larry Johnson, again on the attack
https://sonar21.com/moscow-terror-attack-rogue-ukrainian-op-or-western-backed/
Moscow Terror Attack — Rogue Ukrainian Op or Western Backed?
Lots to cover with respect to Friday’s mercenary terrorist attack in Moscow. Why do I call it “mercenary”? Because it appears that the perps had no ideological axe to grind and were hired for a relatively paltry sum and carried out indiscriminate killing at a public gathering of civilians. Based on the video evidence released so far in the public domain the planning for this op was not the work of skilled professionals — e.g., they used the same vehicle to travel to and from the attack site, their movements inside the building demonstrated unsophisticated Close Quarter Battle skills and they had poor muzzle discipline, which means they had minimal rifle training.
The Russians got a jump on the investigation because one of the concert goers coldcocked one of the shooters, and the shooter was captured alive. The Russians also followed the escape vehicle and nabbed four of the suspects as they skedaddled for Ukraine. The western media is doing its damnedest to push the storyline that this was an ISIS attack and dismiss the possibility that it could have been Ukraine…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 24 2024 11:21 utc | 576

Will you now apologize to Unnamed for your baseless smear?
Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 10:17 utc | 635
No. I will not be apologising to any of the trolls who descended Saturday night with their intentions to disrupt and discredit this blog. Thankfully b hasn’t deleted their spam, so people can read the thread for how it went down, much of it likely written by the same hand. I couldn’t immediately find any verification of the vaguely reported “massive attack on Sevastopol” because compared to the huge coverage of Crocus City terrorist attacks there was only tiny mention of it and in the end the damage was relatively small and I would argue that any media reports calling this a massive attack are inaccurate. Any confusion or uncertainty would be avoided if posters provided a reference to their source material, and made a reasonable effort to get the facts straight.
As for your post, it talks about a “massive attack Sunday night” (repeats this twice). I was responding on Saturday night’s events and troll infestation. Is your Sunday night reference a prediction for this evening or another error on the part of Tass? No need to respond as I’m not that interested. Anyway, keep standing up for the rights of trolls to disrupt and disparage this blog, righteously demanding apologies if it makes you feel better, you won’t be getting one from me.

LOL at you dumbfuck “bar flies” hahaha. You were so stupid you could not figure out my name means Rape You and it sounds like Ray Peeew because of all the fart insults I was making with my other logins.
Slava Ukraini! Israel will crush the subhumans in Gaza and the West Bank and take back our rightfull lands!
Posted by: Ray Pugh | Mar 24 2024 3:46 utc | 553
Maybe you “barflies” are having some trouble keeping up with Ukraine winning and Israel being triumphant! Hahaha!
I am here to Rape You!
Posted by: Unnamed | Mar 24 2024 3:49 utc | 554
“Massive attack” on Sevastopol now officially confirmed by Russia itself. Looks like the “obviously fake report” posted by a “troll”, which I according to you “barflies” made a fool myself by diving into, was right on the mark (despite my own misgivings). Maybe you “barflies” on your high horses aren’t as smart as you think you are.
Posted by: Unnamed | Mar 24 2024 3:36 utc | 547

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 24 2024 11:22 utc | 577

The troll infestation is a confession of guilt in that it is an obvious response to discussion regarding the complicity of MI6 and Ukraine in the terrorist attack in Moscow; the perpetrators want that discussion inhibited and stopped.
The scatological nature of the troll posts reveals the childishness, immaturity and stupidity of those employed by the security services, if they weren’t posting here, they would be scrawling on the walls of public lavatories..

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Mar 24 2024 11:33 utc | 578

“Slava Ukraini! Israel will crush the subhumans in Gaza and the West Bank and take back our rightfull lands!”
Posted by: Ray Pugh | Mar 24 2024 3:46 utc

Thank you for the Zionist-Ukrainian clarity: the bloody, self-worshipping anti-Semitic horde.
The Great Temple was built by an Arab king, Herod the Great, not by a rabbi who came from the Ukraine.

Posted by: Simon | Mar 24 2024 11:39 utc | 579

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 11:00 utc | 644
An interesting post. A while ago, probably here, probably sometime after the start of SMO, a commenter linked to an article about someone, a middle eastern gentleman if I remember correctly, who was discovered to be in the process of building and operating his own network of “biodrones”.
It is a shame that I didn’t save a link and can’t remember any identifying information but, from memory, he was luring impressionable / suggestible young men and then bringing them under his command via some form of hypnotic technique. I don’t remember the outcome of the story, whether he was arrested and charged, or possibly killed, but I did wondered at the time if he was attempting to build his own copy of a system he had witnessed being implemented by others.
Assuming I’ve remembered correctly, it is the only directly relevant example I know of that could have exposed the working principles of biodrone operation.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 24 2024 11:52 utc | 580

@michaelj72 648
I think Larry has pretty much got it spot on.
The terrorists headed towards the Ukrainian border under the belief that it offered their best chance of escaping to safety. Otherwise they could have chosen the border with Kazakhstan, which is longer and less monitored.
However, it’s likely that even if they had crossed into Ukraine, they would have been eliminated.
Perhaps the organizers never intended for an extraction; instead, they hoped the FSB would take care of the terrorists.
However, this plan backfired when the terrorists were captured rather than killed.
Unbeknownst to them, the terrorists had been dispatched on a suicide mission.

Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Mar 24 2024 11:54 utc | 581

@michaelj72 648
I think Larry has pretty much got it spot on.
The terrorists headed towards the Ukrainian border under the belief that it offered their best chance of escaping to safety. Otherwise they could have chosen the border with Kazakhstan, which is longer and less monitored.
However, it’s likely that even if they had crossed into Ukraine, they would have been eliminated.
Perhaps the organizers never intended for an extraction; instead, they hoped the FSB would take care of the terrorists.
However, this plan backfired when the terrorists were captured rather than killed.
Unbeknownst to them, the terrorists had been dispatched on a suicide mission.

Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Mar 24 2024 11:54 utc | 582

@anon2020 #647:

I don’t doubt what you say.

I know. It’s just that when you asked pq to substantiate his/her claims about an alleged mismatch between the shooters and captives with photographic evidence, I immediately thought of that picture that substantiates the opposite, i.e., a match between the shooters and captives.

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 11:55 utc | 583

Царствия Небесного всем безвинно убиенным!
Мы отомстим за каждого. И все, кто причастен, вне зависимости от страны происхождения и статуса – отныне наша легальная и главная цель.
Ждите, ублюдки.
– Дмитрий Медведев, March 24 (TG post)
Translation:
The Kingdom of Heaven to all those innocently killed!
We will avenge everyone. And everyone involved, regardless of country of origin and status, is now our legal and main goal.
Anticipate, bast..rds.

Posted by: ostro | Mar 24 2024 12:05 utc | 584

???????
https://t.me/intelslava/56539
I’m pro-Russia, but this smells fishy.
I inspect a location where I plan to carry out a terrorist attack and then have my photo taken there???

Posted by: Apollyon | Mar 24 2024 12:09 utc | 585

michaelj72 @ 648

Because it appears that the perps had no ideological axe to grind and were hired for a relatively paltry sum and carried out

You don’t do something like this without an overarching hatred of Russians, or maybe just your fellow man, but putting five humanity hating self reinforcing psychos together can’t be easy, finding five Russia haters probably easier.
As for paltry sum, you don’t do something like this for a handful of cash, half delivered later, I’m sure they were promised a worthwhile sum in an account in France, Italy, or Germany, or Turkey or ME, ownership of an apartment, a car, Ukrainian citizenship with new names and new ID. Unless they were dumber than a bag of rocks all that stuff was signed, delivered, and confirmed beforehand and they flew and checked the bank account, apartment, and car.
They don’t look like the type to hold up to enhanced interrogation, and at this point as they’re not striving for a fast track to heaven with 72 virgins there’s nothing in it for them but to sing an aria. I doubt the RF will reveal all the details, as someone here posted, Russia will roll our some slack and wait for western leaders to hang themselves with their own words first.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 24 2024 12:09 utc | 586

Questions about Crocous theater. How did the fire manage to spread so quickly? Wall curtains highly flamable? If so why is this allowed? Fire control system/sprinklers – activated? Non functional? Not installed? Sabotaged?
Posted by: the pessimist | Mar 23 2024 23:00 utc | 462
Just speculating, I don’t know Russian building codes. That being said what building codes are trying to achieve in regards to fire is the safe evacuation of occupants and keeping the structural integrity of the structure to protect fire fighters. There is no thought given to attacks by terrorists using military grade incendary devices or even just accelerants … there is no cost effective / reasonable way to protect a building from someone intentionally trying to destroy it.
The whole idea or fire protection in buildings is to slow the fire down not to stop it. I once saw a wooden lodge at a ski resort that had burned to the ground leaving the fire protecting coating on the wood still standing in sheets. It was professionally designed, built to the codes and inspected but it still burned completely.
Fabrics and interior finishes in theaters are usually made of flame retardant materials in the west. What isn’t necessarily made of flame retardant materials is the roofing insulation and roofing membrane. That’s outside the building envelope so even in the west extremely flammable hot tar roof membranes over polystyrene is legal and cheaper than fire retardant alternatives. Also if the attackers used incendary devices they could create a fire hot enough that everything burns regardless.
If I was planning to torch this building the first thing I would do is shut off the sprinkler main. I do it all any time in my work. It’s just one valve in a mechanical room and the whole building is is shut off. It’s no secret … it’ll be on the plans labeled “sprinkler room” … it’s always on a lower level and there’s usually a sign on the door so the fire fighters can identify it.
If they blew a hole in the roof or put out a skylight to act as a chimney and left doors open they would create a fire storm. This would be easy to achieve with incendiary devices. If the roofing insulation / membrane was flammable the fire would spread through it in minutes … especially if there was wind.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 24 2024 12:09 utc | 587

Doing a bit more research today where the IS claim is sourced … and more about terror attacks from Khorasan group which are almost exclusively large suicide bombings in style of Al Qaeda in the Khorasan caliphate 🙃
Linked source “syria.tv” is registered domain name in the United States 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 ‼️
https://www.syria.tv/داعش-يصدر-بياناً-عن-هجوم-موسكو-وينشر-صورة-لمنفذيه
ISIS issues a statement about the Moscow attack and publishes a photo of its perpetrators
Can someone crack this?

Posted by: Oui | Mar 24 2024 12:19 utc | 588

From IntelSlava

🇷🇺🇺🇦 The recruitment of killers for the terrorist attack in the Crocus City Hall concert hall near Moscow took place through the Ukrainian Embassy in Tajikistan, says military expert, ex-special service officer, retired Colonel Bakhtier Rakhmonov.
A few weeks before the terrorist attack, information appeared on the website of the Ukrainian diplomatic mission about inviting foreigners to join the so-called “International Legion,” he noted and provided RIA Novosti with a corresponding screenshot.

Posted by: Down South | Mar 24 2024 12:19 utc | 589

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🏴 Is #Ukraine or #IS guilty of the #Crocus Massacre⚡️
🔸There will almost certainly not be a universally accepted end result. To the facts:
1️⃣ The perpetrators were caught in the #Bryasnk region and most likely wanted to flee to #Ukraine.
2️⃣ The #US knew about attack planning and issued a travel warning for their citizens.
3️⃣ #IS terrorist involvement was almost immediately claimed by Western entities without providing any evidence, especially without #IS source.
4️⃣ The #IS Terror Organisation itself only commented in detail yesterday and took responsibility. (Video👆)
5️⃣ #The investigation is ongoing!
❗️According to the current state of knowledge, prima facie evidence (at first sight) suggests that #Ukraine is involved. IS involvement has not been proven.
🔹The belated admission by IS doesn’t change anything, because IS is also known for being free riders.
🔹Even if #IS were involved, that wouldn’t rule out #Ukraine or the #US or #UK being involved.
🟡#IS is pragmatic and its main enemy is #Russia. Let us remember that #IS only began to falter in #Syria when #Russia intervened and destroyed its economic structure and stopped oil sales to #Turkey by bombing oil convoys.
🟡The #US are also pragmatic and changes partners as it sees fit. Osama Bin Laden and Sadam Hussein are just 2 examples. During the Battle of Mosul in #Iraq, the #US allowed #IS troops to withdraw towards #Syria without bombing them. A short time later, Palmyra was retaken by #IS.
🟡#IS militants were treated in #Israel and some are fighting on the side of #Ukraine.
❗️Thus, there are no fixed fronts. Cooperation between #Ukraine and #IS and also the participation of the #US or #UK are conceivable.
⚖️ In Roman law, Ukraine must shatter the proof prima facie. The statements available so far are not suitable for this.
🔸These are the core facts. I warn against getting bogged down in details. For example, it is completely irrelevant whether the perpetrators behaved like #IS militants or not, since #IS now recruits anyone who is halfway suitable. The fact that the #US knew about planned terrorist attacks is a fact that is completely unsuitable for drawing any further conclusions.
📌 In conclusion, the further investigations have to be awaited and #Ukraine is forced to act in the current situation because “prima facie” is against it.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/92468

Posted by: Down South | Mar 24 2024 12:21 utc | 590

@ HB_Norica | Mar 24 2024 12:09 utc | 624
The Russian building codes are quite tough, but if someone deliberately wants to set fire to a building, it’d be quite hard to keep that fire from growing. Once, the glass cracks and breaks, the draft would feed the fire. This building is/was mostly steel skeleton and glass envelope. The steel structure most probably bent every which way due to heat, and lost stability.

Posted by: ostro | Mar 24 2024 12:23 utc | 591

Perhaps the organizers never intended for an extraction; instead, they hoped the FSB would take care of the terrorists.
Posted by: Old Sovietologist | Mar 24 2024 11:54 utc | 620
Yes, it looks exactly like that. I understand from what info was made available that they used some incendiary stuff, but most likely the explosion or the thing that started a large fire was already there, placed by another team. It would explain how instantly cnn and bbc wrote it’s isis. how did they know so instantly? The probably thought terrorists are burned or escaped, so the articles were published automatically.

Posted by: rk | Mar 24 2024 12:27 utc | 592

I can only presume to imagine that what ever might happen next, that it won’t nice.
Here’s my quote of the day, courtesy of commentary on A Son of the New American Revolution:
“The only ones who are weak are your Murican and Brit boys
who won’t dare enter Ukraine openly and directly
because they’ll all be slaughtered in a week’s time.
This is the reason you need proxy’s to fight your dirty imperialistic wars of terror
and aggression for your private equity and hedge fund mafia bosses beholden to their Israhelli
lovechild.”
Wow

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Mar 24 2024 12:28 utc | 593

I would suggest to reference a post using the whole signature instead of only the author’s name and post number. Since many posts have been deleted, it becomes difficult to follow a discussion.
Thanks

Posted by: scc | Mar 24 2024 12:30 utc | 594

Another illustration of contempt, rudeness and cynicism: actual CNN’s top title: “Yet another powerful blow to Putin”
…such disrespect for the victims and the Russian people speaks for itself.
workers of the world, unite!
no war but the class war!

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Mar 24 2024 12:40 utc | 595

@all – deleted some 50 comments under faked names some vandal had decided to leave on this site.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

Posted by: b | Mar 24 2024 12:41 utc | 596

“When the US goes “down the economic drain” then NATO will be the next organization that is going to implode.”
Posted by: WMG | Mar 24 2024 3:13 utc | 542
“The whole point of killing the Iran Nuke deal, managing a Nazi coup in Ukraine, and provoking a war with Russia was to keep the US from going down the economic drain. The EU is cooked meat now, the US is going to try very hard, and may well succeed, to save itself from the final crisis of capitalism by devouring Europe. And because that’s the case, the EU as an organization, and NATO as an organization, continue to be useful tools to impose America’s will on Europe. I don’t think they’re going away any time soon, although some of the fringe states like Hungary may defect, depending on where the limit of Russian occupation ends up. Membership in EU and NATO provides a small measure of protection against US aggression, and although only a small one, the difference is vast if Russia is not actually on your border. Look at Transnistria.”
Posted by: Honzo | Mar 24 2024 3:37 utc | 509
An economically destroyed Europe does not make the US stronger, it makes it weaker. Having weak allies is not an achievement it is a recipe for disaster.
Look at Mussolini’s African army attacking the Brits in 40-41-even thought the Italian army greatly outnumbered the Brits the Italians were routed causing Hitler to reinforce northern Africa with troop that could have been fighting in Operation Barbarossa that mya have made the difference in that mammoth struggle.
Weakening allies (blowing up Nordstream 2; forcing Europe to sanction Russia; forcing Europeans to finance a lost war in Ukraine) allies are an albatross not an improvement.
The Empire is broke, divided and desperate-its short sighted treatment of Europe is diametrically opposed to 1947 when they hatched the Marshall Plan which made Europe stronger.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 24 2024 12:44 utc | 597

@Lev Davidovich #581:

No. I will not be apologising to any of the trolls who descended Saturday night with their intentions to disrupt and discredit this blog.

I wasn’t asking about the name hijacker. I specifically asked if you will apologize to Unnamed for your baseless smears of him/her.

I would argue that any media reports calling this a massive attack are inaccurate

Oh, so now the TASS reports are inaccurate? You’ve written in #551 that “There is nothing reported by Tass on a massive attack on Sevastopol,” implying that the reports weren’t coming from a sufficiently reliable source such as TASS, yet now that I have provided a link to a TASS report, it’s suddenly “inaccurate”? Because you just need to maintain your belief that Unnamed is an evil person?

Any confusion or uncertainty would be avoided if posters provided a reference to their source material, and made a reasonable effort to get the facts straight.

In this case, the facts were straight from the very beginning. You’re the one who hasn’t got your facts straight before attacking others.
I agree with you that references to the source material should always be provided.

As for your post, it talks about a “massive attack Sunday night” (repeats this twice). I was responding on Saturday night’s events and troll infestation. Is your Sunday night reference a prediction for this evening or another error on the part of Tass?

In English, the events of the night that follows Saturday evening are often described as occuring “on Saturday night.” In Russian, they are described as occuring either “on Sunday night” (which is technically correct after midnight) or “on the night from Saturday to Sunday.” Of course, you would easily understand this difference yourself, were you not such an arrogant prick.

Anyway, keep standing up for the rights of trolls to disrupt and disparage this blog

Unnamed is not a “troll.” I have never defended any disruption of this blog. In fact, in my opinion, it’s you and your buddies who are the ones disrupting this blog with your holier-than-thou attitude, constantly accusing normal posters of being “trolls.”

Maybe you “barflies” are having some trouble keeping up with Ukraine winning and Israel being triumphant! Hahaha!
I am here to Rape You!
Posted by: Unnamed | Mar 24 2024 3:49 utc | 554

This comment, which has now been deleted by b, was clearly made by the name hijacker.

“Massive attack” on Sevastopol now officially confirmed by Russia itself. Looks like the “obviously fake report” posted by a “troll”, which I according to you “barflies” made a fool myself by diving into, was right on the mark (despite my own misgivings). Maybe you “barflies” on your high horses aren’t as smart as you think you are.
Posted by: Unnamed | Mar 24 2024 3:36 utc | 547

And this comment, which hasn’t been deleted by b, meaning, it was made by the real Unnamed, did not disparage the blog—only the holier-than-thou paranoiacs such as yourself, constantly smearing other people as “trolls” whenever they happen to have a somewhat different opinion on the ongoing events than you do.

Posted by: S | Mar 24 2024 12:48 utc | 598

Just to.put things in perspective, the message from USUKIS is that their target is the Pacific and the message from Netanyahu of USUKIS is that their target is Euphrates to Nile extermination of the Muslim populations.
That’s good , because instead of Europeans watching the Ukraine war as distant spectators it raises the spectre that our mad politicians or Globalist elites intend World War and we are the ones who will be doing the fighting and dying for these crazy politicians/ globalists
And instead of us Muslims watching the USUKIS genocide of Palestinians as distant spectators, or near spectators if you are sitting above Israel in a plane, we now understand that USUKIS intends to massacre all the Muslims in the region.
Maybe BRICS and BRITS will now understand the seriousness of the problem facing us, that our leaders are totally mad, and that they will make most of our populations as mad as the Israelis are now, if they have spent the last 50 years drinking the Thatcher koolaid.

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 24 2024 12:51 utc | 599

Good post canuck, agree. While I also agree with Honzo, that this was the plan..to eat Europe, I also agree it was utterly imbecilic. Apologies I hardly bother to post reasoning because it’s so transparent now just how fucking stupid the clown posse of the West is. I think all of us are dismayed and surprised by just how fucking stupid.
If forestalling economic collapse was their goal, bravo, youve made it inescapable and accelerated the timetable. Take a bow Jake Sullivan, Nuland, Blinken, and the faceless apparachiks of the State department and CIA shitheads. Take a bow morons.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 24 2024 12:51 utc | 600