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March 12, 2024
French Defense Reports Acknowledge Ukraine Is Done With

The French president Macron has recently pushed for an engagement of foreign troops in Ukraine. The idea was immediately rejected by every country that would be able to send a reasonable number.

The question is why Macron suddenly came out with this.

A series of recent reports from the French defense establishment might have caused his irritation.

The French magazine Marianne got access to "several confidential defense reports" from the French army on the situation in Ukraine.

Guerre en Ukraine : de la prudence à l'affolement… Ce que cache le virage de Macron (archived) – Marianne, Mar 7 2024

Arnaud Bertrand has translated large parts of it:

The situation looks exceedingly bleak for Ukraine, which might in part explain Macron's recent declarations around sending troops to Ukraine. I translated the important parts of the article:

"A Ukrainian military victory now seems impossible"

The reports Marianne consulted write that Ukraine's counter-offensive "gradually bogged down in mud and blood and did not result in any strategic gain" and that its planning, conceived by Kiev and Western general staffs, turned out to be "disastrous": "Planners thought that once the first Russian defense lines were breached, the entire front would collapse […] These fundamental preliminary phases were conducted without considering the moral forces of the enemy in defense: that is, the will of the Russian soldier to hold onto the terrain".

The reports also highlight "the inadequacy of the training of Ukrainian soldiers and officers": due to a lack of officers and a significant number of veterans, these "Year II soldiers" from Ukraine – often trained for "no more than three weeks" – were launched into an assault on a Russian fortification line that proved impregnable.

Somehow people who had never heard of the Battle of Kursk convinced themselves that Russian soldiers in defensive positions would run away as soon as they would hear a tank rumbling towards them. They of course did not do so.

These Russian troops are well managed and cared for:

The reports also highlight that contrary to Ukraine "the Russians have managed their reserve troops well, to ensure operational endurance." According to this document, Moscow reinforces its units before they are completely worn out, mixes recruits with experienced troops, ensures regular rest periods in the rear… and "always had a coherent reserve force to manage unforeseen events." This is far from the widespread idea in the West of a Russian army sending its troops to the slaughter without counting…

The Ukrainians on the other side are done with:

"To date, the Ukrainian general staff does not have a critical mass of land forces capable of inter-arms maneuver at the corps level capable of challenging their Russian counterparts to break through its defensive line," concludes this confidential defense report, according to which "the gravest error of analysis and judgment would be to continue to seek exclusively military solutions to stop the hostilities". A French officer summarizes: "It is clear, given the forces present, that Ukraine cannot win this war militarily."

The fall of Avdeevka has shown that the Ukrainian military, even on the defensive, will inevitably lose the fight:

"The Ukrainian armed forces have tactically shown that they do not possess the human and material capabilities […] to hold a sector of the front that is subjected to the assailant's effort," continues the document. "The Ukrainian failure in Avdiivka shows that, despite the emergency deployment of an 'elite' brigade – the 3rd Azov Air Assault Brigade –, Kiev is not capable of locally restoring a sector of the front that collapses," alerts this last report.

In consequence the Russian forces will simply move on:

What the Russians will do with this tactical success remains to be seen. Will they continue in the current mode of "nibbling and slowly shaking" the entire front line, or will they seek to "break through in depth"? "The terrain behind Avdiivka allows it," signals this recent document, also warning that Western sources tend to "underestimate" the Russians, themselves adept at the practice of "Maskirovka," "appearing weak when strong." According to this analysis, after two years of war, Russian forces have thus shown their ability to "develop operational endurance" that allows them to wage "a slow and long-intensity war based on the continuous attrition of the Ukrainian army."

There is nothing really new in the above for people who have followed the facts on the ground.

So why were western media, and politicians like Macron, late in recognizing the real situation?

Comments

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 4:01 utc | 219

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 13 2024 3:39 utc | 211
Thanks for that post. You are usually one of the best posters here. I really get a lot out of posts by you and Karlof1 and Honzo and some others. Shadowbanned certainly brings a lot of detailed knowledge to the board. I suspect that is why B never bans him/her. Too bad the only solution he/she ever suggests is a wild escalation and nuclear war. Every single post.

he was banned ; even before rsh !!!
“…a lot of detailed knowledge…”
like this crap about the khmelnytsky attack ???
– like use of tactical russian nukes ?
– like stored british nukes ?
– like his video-show as prove for nuclear explosions ?

Posted by: ghiwen | Mar 14 2024 13:04 utc | 501

I’d like to see pictures of the first 30 years of Macron’s wife’s life.

Posted by: Mot | Mar 14 2024 15:03 utc | 502

Bravo! Aside from the damage done to children and the rights of women, one of the most dangerous aspects of gender ideology is miseducating people in how to think and reason. If you can train people to believe that men are women, up is down and 2 + 2 = 5, you can get them to believe anything.

Posted by: Bruce Lesnick | Mar 14 2024 22:28 utc | 503

This is the first time in history, in a war involving multiple countries, every decision maker have an opportunity for personal gain to continue the war effort. Blackrock has merged the interest of political elite and business elite.

Posted by: Hasibh | Mar 14 2024 23:56 utc | 504

Posted by William Gruff, James M, Ed and some others. Thanks.
Yeah. The trolling (and replies to) going on here is making it very hard to read. I’m going to give the Moon a miss for a period, in the expectation that it will either change or be overwhelmed.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Mar 15 2024 14:37 utc | 505

Of course this might be just what the trolls want, but either they are controlled, or the place will fade away. Up to b.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Mar 15 2024 14:39 utc | 506

“Lavrov’s Dog, Canuck, micron and any other Shadowbanned fan boys need to look up the security dilemma. Wikipedia may be dumbed down enough for you. Basically, nations live in a state of insecurity. And what drives that insecurity? Fear. Fear of NATO encirclement drove Russia to invade Ukraine. Fear of further Russian conquests drives Western support of Ukraine.”
Posted by: James M. | Mar 13 2024 14:54 utc | 420
James you are incorrect characterizing that I am a ‘SB ‘fanboy.’
I disagree with most of his anti Russia analysis and all of this anti Putin ideas.
Yet he is knowledgeable and he acts as an anti-thesis to the thesis of most of the pro Russian poster which is of course the Hegelian dialectic can be resolved , sometimes, for a higher truth-but the ‘Prof’s’ that post here don’t seem to recognize their ignorance on this issue, or their arrogance for that matter.
Finally, I am a proponent for free speech-you don’t like SB, mine, Lavrov’s posts just skip over those posts and just greedily read the posts that will Echo Chamberpot back to your own beliefs..

Posted by: canuck | Mar 15 2024 20:20 utc | 507

James you are incorrect characterizing that I am a ‘SB ‘fanboy.’
I disagree with most of his anti Russia analysis and all of this anti Putin ideas.
Yet he is knowledgeable and he acts as an anti-thesis to the thesis of most of the pro Russian poster which is of course the Hegelian dialectic can be resolved , sometimes, for a higher truth-but the ‘Prof’s’ that post here don’t seem to recognize their ignorance on this issue, or their arrogance for that matter.
Finally, I am a proponent for free speech-you don’t like SB, mine, Lavrov’s posts just skip over those posts and just greedily read the posts that will Echo Chamberpot back to your own beliefs..
Posted by: canuck | Mar 15 2024 20:20 utc | 508
Oh, no I’m not. You certainly are a fanboy. He doesn’t have any other argument or knowledge base other than “Russia and Putin are weak unless they use a strong deterrent against the West – the only strong deterrent I can think of is a nuclear strike. Ergo unless Russia uses nuclear weapons first they lose a confrontation to the West.” That’s an indefensible position, because it is wrong on the historical level, the moral level, the strategic level, and the tactical level.
Anyone defending SB is defending the indefensible.
Yet he is knowledgeable and he acts as an anti-thesis to the thesis of most of the pro Russian poster which is of course the Hegelian dialectic can be resolved , sometimes, for a higher truth-but the ‘Prof’s’ that post here don’t seem to recognize their ignorance on this issue, or their arrogance for that matter.
Ohhh big words, you must have been a philosophy major. Look, this isn’t a university course, it’s a website named after a song title, that exists primarily as a reaction to American imperialism abroad. The majority of posters here will be if not pro-Russian, at least anti-American imperialism. You want the antithesis to that you can look that up everywhere else – it’s called the Mainstream Media in the West. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WSJ, CBC, NHK, le Monde, the Daily Mail, BBC, Yahoo comment sections, there are countless outlets for that “balance.”
As for free speech, truthfully there’s no such thing as unlimited free speech. This is a private website, and we post here at the privilege of the owner/administrator, any one of us can be banned for any reason. Trolling being a primary reason for banning. SB has more than tried the patience of a vast number of other posters here, because of his troll-like behavior. His purpose is to disrupt reasoned discussion by spam posting asinine statements. On any given day 15-20 percent of the posts in any Ukraine thread are his. I ignore the vast majority of them, but sometimes stupidity needs to be answered.
Otherwise people like you will come along and say – Oh gee that Shadowbanned said something, maybe he’s right about Russia using nuclear weapons. And that’s scary. People can have different take on the war, on Russian war strategy, or even question casualty number and whether NATO will introduce troops or not (which I have done), without going to the extremes that Shadowbanned does.

Posted by: James M. | Mar 15 2024 22:58 utc | 508

In response to Lavrov’s Dog@497,
I’m not sure I understand what you’re suggesting. —– maybe you do have a clear understanding internally which you aren’t sharing with the rest of us.
Posted by: Skiffer | Mar 14 2024 12:00 utc | 501
No worries. 🙂 In a world of multiple cultures arriving together in one space accidents are bound to happen. And people are going to get hurt.
“Go hard or go home” is an idiom meaning “if one does not put forth effort, then one might as well stop trying.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Hard_or_Go_Home
But my bad for using jargon/slang/idioms and really popular commons “phrases” I stupidly assumed everyone would know.
see also
Kylie Minogue – Go Hard or Go Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HrSfXSEL9w
Wiz Khalifa & Iggy Azalea – Go Hard or Go Home [Furious 7 Soundtrack]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_VRSFpUcp0

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Mar 16 2024 5:15 utc | 509

In response to Lavrov’s Dog@510,
No problem. I didn’t have any trouble understanding your jargon, since I even identified it as such, a collection of meaningless buzzwords — not even a truism, when considered at face value. The question was if there were any actual thoughts relevant to material reality and the context of Russian decision making trying to express themselves through this jargon, which still doesn’t seem to be the case. *Shrugs and grins* Don’t get hurt, be well.

Posted by: Skiffer | Mar 16 2024 13:37 utc | 510

Well!

Posted by: Asbella | Mar 18 2024 23:35 utc | 511

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 13 2024 1:33 utc | 186
“everything unfolding is part of the globalist Great Reset. The purpose of the conflict is cover for geopolitical bifurcation via ‘sanctions’ which are effectively separating the West from the Rest. At some point a politico-financial reset can be imposed globally albeit the West, because of its different system, will get different treatment from the RoW”
Additionally, I would think the Great Reset (technically) would actually be what it means, a world wide computer reset reboot. The magic man, now you see me, now you don’t.
RoW Russ China would be wise to have systems in place that are not dependent on US chips.

Posted by: jopalolive | Mar 21 2024 16:45 utc | 512