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March 12, 2024
French Defense Reports Acknowledge Ukraine Is Done With

The French president Macron has recently pushed for an engagement of foreign troops in Ukraine. The idea was immediately rejected by every country that would be able to send a reasonable number.

The question is why Macron suddenly came out with this.

A series of recent reports from the French defense establishment might have caused his irritation.

The French magazine Marianne got access to "several confidential defense reports" from the French army on the situation in Ukraine.

Guerre en Ukraine : de la prudence à l'affolement… Ce que cache le virage de Macron (archived) – Marianne, Mar 7 2024

Arnaud Bertrand has translated large parts of it:

The situation looks exceedingly bleak for Ukraine, which might in part explain Macron's recent declarations around sending troops to Ukraine. I translated the important parts of the article:

"A Ukrainian military victory now seems impossible"

The reports Marianne consulted write that Ukraine's counter-offensive "gradually bogged down in mud and blood and did not result in any strategic gain" and that its planning, conceived by Kiev and Western general staffs, turned out to be "disastrous": "Planners thought that once the first Russian defense lines were breached, the entire front would collapse […] These fundamental preliminary phases were conducted without considering the moral forces of the enemy in defense: that is, the will of the Russian soldier to hold onto the terrain".

The reports also highlight "the inadequacy of the training of Ukrainian soldiers and officers": due to a lack of officers and a significant number of veterans, these "Year II soldiers" from Ukraine – often trained for "no more than three weeks" – were launched into an assault on a Russian fortification line that proved impregnable.

Somehow people who had never heard of the Battle of Kursk convinced themselves that Russian soldiers in defensive positions would run away as soon as they would hear a tank rumbling towards them. They of course did not do so.

These Russian troops are well managed and cared for:

The reports also highlight that contrary to Ukraine "the Russians have managed their reserve troops well, to ensure operational endurance." According to this document, Moscow reinforces its units before they are completely worn out, mixes recruits with experienced troops, ensures regular rest periods in the rear… and "always had a coherent reserve force to manage unforeseen events." This is far from the widespread idea in the West of a Russian army sending its troops to the slaughter without counting…

The Ukrainians on the other side are done with:

"To date, the Ukrainian general staff does not have a critical mass of land forces capable of inter-arms maneuver at the corps level capable of challenging their Russian counterparts to break through its defensive line," concludes this confidential defense report, according to which "the gravest error of analysis and judgment would be to continue to seek exclusively military solutions to stop the hostilities". A French officer summarizes: "It is clear, given the forces present, that Ukraine cannot win this war militarily."

The fall of Avdeevka has shown that the Ukrainian military, even on the defensive, will inevitably lose the fight:

"The Ukrainian armed forces have tactically shown that they do not possess the human and material capabilities […] to hold a sector of the front that is subjected to the assailant's effort," continues the document. "The Ukrainian failure in Avdiivka shows that, despite the emergency deployment of an 'elite' brigade – the 3rd Azov Air Assault Brigade –, Kiev is not capable of locally restoring a sector of the front that collapses," alerts this last report.

In consequence the Russian forces will simply move on:

What the Russians will do with this tactical success remains to be seen. Will they continue in the current mode of "nibbling and slowly shaking" the entire front line, or will they seek to "break through in depth"? "The terrain behind Avdiivka allows it," signals this recent document, also warning that Western sources tend to "underestimate" the Russians, themselves adept at the practice of "Maskirovka," "appearing weak when strong." According to this analysis, after two years of war, Russian forces have thus shown their ability to "develop operational endurance" that allows them to wage "a slow and long-intensity war based on the continuous attrition of the Ukrainian army."

There is nothing really new in the above for people who have followed the facts on the ground.

So why were western media, and politicians like Macron, late in recognizing the real situation?

Comments

Supposedly Ukraine took out ANOTHER Russian vessel, this time near the Kinburn Spit, Mykolaiv Oblast. Russian vessels need to upgrade/install anti-drone/missile tech ASAP. The Houthis who are droning the hell out of American and Allied vessels in the Strait have yet to sink one because the drone defense systems are very accurate.

Posted by: bored | Mar 13 2024 2:17 utc | 201

Now, YOU tell me:
1. Does it, or does it not, piss you off that Russia seems disadvantaged in its retaliation for Western escalations? Yes or no?
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 13 2024 1:04 utc | 179
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May I suggest you read up on some military history. I like this guy a lot.
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/red-army-rising-kursk-and-beyond

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 13 2024 2:18 utc | 202

Australia’s purchase of US submarines dealt major blow
The circus just keeps adding new clowns and slapstick.
>… Australia’s purchase of three US submarines could be hampered after the Pentagon made an unexpected plan to half production of the nuclear-powered vessels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU86-c3rCnc
Just asking. Was there a down payment ?
Delivery schedule was always elastic

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 13 2024 2:27 utc | 203

Rename the challenger to challenged. The BBC report of it getting bogged in a training run was priceless for a clown comedy.

Posted by: Hankster | Mar 13 2024 2:34 utc | 204

I wonder if I’m the only one here who has actually seen the Australian cardboard drones (waterproof btw).
They have a website and YouTube videos too.
Check it out to gain some perspective. Some of you may feel a little bit embarrassed but it will pass.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Mar 13 2024 2:36 utc | 205

So, what is a pinprick in this scheme of things?
You mentioned feelings. What does that have to do with warfare?
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 13 2024 1:56 utc | 193
Lol. Spoken like a true left-brainer. :).
You’re right, a few tactical pinpricks (to Russia) in the big scheme of the SMO seem nothing. But, they are cumulative escalatory enticements by the AFU and NATO which, as some suggest, if left unaddressed, invite larger escalatory q bigger pricks. The stitch-in-time is one analogy, or for your Dutch sensibilities, the little boy’s finger in the dyke comes to mind.
Sb is not simply a paranoid warmonger. His is pointing out the mechanics of escalation, which has always been part of war’s bluffing game. How many times do you accept some bully who’s looking for a fight poking you sharply in the chest; then shoving you backwards a bit; and then harder; all whilst shouting “come on you pussy, fight me, put up or shut up”. Some walk away. Some lash out. I’m NOT suggesting either. I’m just seeing both sides.
And you ask what do feelings have to do with warfare? Seriously, Acco?
Yes, of course, the war room planners should not let feelings guide their operations. But what about Putin’s guiding patriotic feelings for RF security? The volunteers who are giving their lives for the motherland? The troops on both sides of the trenches shooting their Slavic brethren out of military hatred? Their families? And even we computer spectators? Is that how you view the Gaza mess — just an intellectual game of politics (which it is for SOME). Are we all supposed to remain clinically detached from 1M dead people due to an idealogical, economic, Russophobic proxy war to maintain the World Hegemon? You sound like a State Department psychopath (Rumsfeld comes to mind).

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 13 2024 2:42 utc | 206

Shadowbanned and Jake.
In the world without the nukes punching bully in the face makes sense. Danger with retaliation is that we do not deal with rational people. If Russia retaliates so does NATO will have to retaliate and then it will be vicious cycle. It is between rock and a hard place. If war escalates it will be humanity’s end. The payback will come in time. Ancient Greeks believed that we live in a tragic world and there are no easy answers or solution. I fully understand both points of view. However I think there are problems which cannot be solved tit for tat. As Gandhi said eye for an eye makes whole world blind.

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 13 2024 2:55 utc | 207

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 13 2024 2:55 utc | 208
Ffs, will you read properly and properly represent my views and statements.
(Unlike sb) I HAVE NEVER ADVOCATED exo-Ukrainian missile or nuke retaliation. Ffs, will you people just read clearly. However,
I do sympathise with sb’s and others’ concerns about RF being steadily taunted more and more and not (yet) addressing that threat … somehow. As we all agree, US/UK/NATO/UKR is and could be desperate provocateurs. In which case … who tf knows Russia’s reactions? And who tf knows Putin’s absolute red lines? It is many people’s concerns that US/UK/NATO/UKR are just gunna keep ramping up the provocations to, in the end, find out.
Now, without prejudice, there is a good argument to be made for preventation of that final outcome by “nipping the escalatory provocations in the bud” — not in revenge but as prudent de-escalation. Just saying, but NOT SAYING HOW.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 13 2024 3:23 utc | 208

Amazing. It looks like about 60% or more of this thread consists of people posting insults toward Shadowbanned, or partly agreeing with Shaddowbanned, or Shadowbanned’s posts themselves. And some posters inventing usernames that directly allude to Shadowbanned.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 3:30 utc | 209

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 3:30 utc | 210
The username ‘abuse’ is actually a direct violation of MoA and b’s rules. Can’t say I approve. Had some loser not too long ago co-opting mine and james’ handles, and PeterAU1’s too I think. Not quite the same thing, but annoying. Then there were the hasbarats mangling Arch_Bungle’s handle. Also pretty irksome and tiresome. So yes, I agree with you on that part.
I think psychohistorian summed it up best earlier in this thread where he tried to point to the kind of dialog that shadowbanned’s posts spawn and I agree with that to a large extent as well.
My take is that when shadowbanned (and it wasn’t just him) started with the doom ‘n gloom, only way out is provoking full scale nuclear war crap, it drove a kind of cheerleading style of commentary – on both sides. Used to be you could come to MoA for sitreps and get a lot of good information from a few very knowledgeable people pretty efficiently. But now it’s sniping back and forth, long-winded Debbie Downer complaining about why Putin doesn’t just bomb all of Ukraine back to the stone age, fretting and overanalyzing the effects of Ukraine and NATO’s guerilla tactics which are borne of desperation and to keep the NAFO fanbois interesting, etc.
I rarely, if ever, interact with shadowbanned, but I can see some merit in the complaints. Perhaps if he kept it to one unrealistically negative comment per 100 comments on a page, I dunno. Maybe it just seems like more than that. And it kind of messes up the dynamic. IMO if he wasn’t doing that, there would be a lot less “cheerleading” type commentary and more rote, concise analysis. Personally I know very little about military strategy, so I don’t really say much in these threads. Just trying to explain what I think the heartburn may be about.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 13 2024 3:39 utc | 210

Oh, I’ve just realised why soooo many misunderstandings, misreadings occur here. It drives me mad, not just against me but so many others making good points which get twisted by maybe alcohol, drugs, or general low IQ. It’s because people read and comment backwards, new to old. They read some recent post but which has UNQUOTED PREVIOUS background discussion and arguments above it, and then just kneejerk reply to it, completely missing the point and misrepresenting the poster. Or they see a name they dislike and just throw superficial shit at it as they pass by.
So fuck this. I’m going back to just selective reading … always top to bottom through a thread.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 13 2024 3:40 utc | 211

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 13 2024 2:42 utc | 207
May I refer you to the Godfather? It is not personal, strictly business.
Warfare runs on its own, cold logic, that includes preparing for casualties, combatants, civilians and collateral damage. Feelings are not on the curriculum in war college.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 13 2024 3:44 utc | 212

Then there is psychohistorian. Who very regularly brings up the slur “patriarchy”. I’m still trying to figure out where “patriarchy” fits into all of this bullshit. It seems like Victoria Nuland, Hillary Clinton, 180 Baerbock, Van der Leyin, Nikki Haley etc are all fully biological women, not men.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 3:45 utc | 213

Months after stopping to comment on the Ukraine threads, I return to find shadowbanned sounding EXACTLY like shadowbanned sounded 18 months ago.
Even it’s comments on the periodic Belgorod ‘incursions’ are only slightly mutated copies of the originals.
Good to know some things never change …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 13 2024 3:47 utc | 214

Arch Bungle | Mar 13 2024 3:47 utc | 215
“Even it’s comments on the periodic Belgorod ‘incursions’ are only slightly mutated copies of the originals.
Good to know some things never change …”

Indeed, after all this time the hohols are still right there close to Belgorod and still able to launch attacks across the pre-2022 border.
Indeed, some things seem never to change in this fake “war”.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 13 2024 3:51 utc | 215

Melaleuca | Mar 13 2024 2:27 utc | 204
Its how the Chicago gangster protection racket rolls. The looting of Australia is well and truly underway.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 13 2024 3:55 utc | 216

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 13 2024 3:51 utc | 216
But has the frequency changed? Russia hasn’t set up an Israel style 25ft surveillance wall with automatic gun turrets, electrification, and total panopticon like viewing ability. It’s war, the Ukes are desperate, desperate people resort to guerilla tactics and shit happens in wars.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 13 2024 3:56 utc | 217

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 13 2024 2:27 utc | 204
That and the USA isn’t agreement capable.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 13 2024 4:00 utc | 218

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 13 2024 3:39 utc | 211
Thanks for that post. You are usually one of the best posters here. I really get a lot out of posts by you and Karlof1 and Honzo and some others. Shadowbanned certainly brings a lot of detailed knowledge to the board. I suspect that is why B never bans him/her. Too bad the only solution he/she ever suggests is a wild escalation and nuclear war. Every single post.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 4:01 utc | 219

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1767531975173095763

Near the border villages that was attacked by those foreign legion dudes this morning a unit of VDV (paras) conscripts had their trainings.
It looks like those idiots in Kiev thought they would be nice to attack…
It went completely south – those young paratroopers did not only defend well – they took the whole party out without any losses.
Some medals waiting for them.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 13 2024 4:02 utc | 220

Aren’t YOU pissed off that NATO/Ukraine keeps hitting mainland RF and that RF does not retaliate respectively? ***Not talking about the methodology, just the sentiment***. Lack of an honest response will paint you as an emotional repressive.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 12 2024 23:52 utc | 163

What are you, some kind of armchair psychologist? Get the fuck outta here with this amateurish slander.
I analyze this war dispassionately. While I recognize the almost innumerable crimes of the west, I don’t feel personally aggrieved or emotionally involved except where it comes to the truth.
The fact is it appears many of those who amplify sentiments similar to those endlessly repeated about retaliation are mostly trying to convince themselves of their rightness. The fact they haven’t been right about Jack or shit since this started doesn’t seem to make any difference to their certainty. Indeed they are simply true believers..ideologues safely ignored.
History is going to judge the West harshly and particularly the current mediocre crop of imbeciles who squandered what advantages they had in a vainglorious and simple minded headlong rush into a meat grinder.
The economic consequences simply cannot be ignored. Tell yourselves it’s all going to be ok if it helps you sleep at night, but if you live in Maerica or Europe or the other vassal nations of the ‘West’ look around your country and then honestly tell me you believe that.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 13 2024 4:09 utc | 221

@Shadow 5
Ha!

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Mar 13 2024 4:13 utc | 222

Oh..I should correct myself. In Ukraine when Russia fights with almost incomparable restraint I can easily remain disengaged. When it comes to the reprehensible Israeli campaign of child murder and a starvation siege enforced on civilians with the happy democratic nations of the ‘free’ and just West standing by actively aiding and abetting this slaughter, I am certainly emotionally involved. But then anyone who sees babies being starved because they had the nerve to be born on the wrong piece of fucking land and isn’t moved to rage or despair isn’t fucking human. And that’s off topic.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 13 2024 4:15 utc | 223

All these call for decisive retaliation, for years now, resonate like agitprop. Reason why? It speaks of hotheads who can only fathom tactics when it is logistics that wins. But Russian people, what with plentiful Greek influence, cannot be ignorant of the lessons of wars to exhaustion?
How do you deal with the Hydra if you cut one head off more arise, Hercules? Simple, you crush its lungs, constriction. This basic allegory has been ongoing for years, as well. Russia and its Rest of the World friends are constricting the life out of empire.
Oh, but the strong man gets bitten! The point is to endure to keep the Hydra distracted from biting apart the ropes that is strangling it.. It is why everyone else, RoW, is not engaging directly. This is to the exhaustion. Fiat currency captured by private finance no longer respires, but smothers through inflation as deindustrialization and financialization has nowhere else to go but snuff itself. This is a direct chokehold attack on the imperial war machine and its bankrolls itself.
To play oblivious about this for years — as it has been explained repeatedly, exhaustively — and return to the same tiresome lament for “decisive action!” at this point invites questioning of motive. The success is before you. Stop whining.

Posted by: titmouse | Mar 13 2024 4:16 utc | 224

“Its how the Chicago gangster protection racket rolls. The looting of Australia is well and truly underway.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 13 2024 3:55 utc | 217
It works both ways Peter. A huge amount of mineral exploration in the US is conducted by Australian companies (also Canadian and Brits). US financial interests don’t even seem to bother with mining anymore.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 4:20 utc | 225

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 13 2024 2:42 utc | 207
Yes, of course, the war room planners should not let feelings guide their operations. But what about Putin’s guiding patriotic feelings for RF security? The volunteers who are giving their lives for the motherland? The troops on both sides of the trenches shooting their Slavic brethren out of military hatred? Their families? And even we computer spectators? Is that how you view the Gaza mess — just an intellectual game of politics (which it is for SOME). Are we all supposed to remain clinically detached from 1M dead people due to an idealogical, economic, Russophobic proxy war to maintain the World Hegemon? You sound like a State Department psychopath (Rumsfeld comes to mind).
Interesting POV Jake, but you need to qualify your assertion of “military hatred” between the (majority) Slavic soldiers on both sides of the trenches. The hatred -if it truly exists- of the UAF against the RF is an engineered construct designed by a mob of historically Russo phobic wing nuts to impose a mythical fabricated ethnicity on the Ukraine. The hatred is based on a fabricated ethnic divide. Of course neither Russia or Ukraine are ethnically pure (for what that is worth anyhow) but a polyglot of peoples. The Russians freely acknowledge this fact, and even (in the main) celebrate it, while those Ukrainians who subscribe to the “unique Ukrainian ethnicity” fable vehemently deny it.
As for hate between militaries and the particular “wing nuts” responsible for encouraging such sentiments, I think the UK and Poland are most probably the principal instigators since both have historical problems with Russia-going back hundreds of years. Anyhow, that is by the way.
Politics, Jake is always a game since there are always winners and losers. The current Gaza mess as you put it has very mirky historical roots which have never been addressed by the “oh so well-meaning” Western powers. These nations have certainly clinically detached themselves from any responsibility for the mess, and to add to that gross example of hypocrisy, these great and moral Western nations have been obviously reticent to take any meaningful action to stop the inevitable slide into this current grotesque POS. By that I mean that if even a few Western nations had the balls to call out Israel on its genocidal behaviour (historical since 1948 and apparently accelerating now), the current situation would not exist.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 13 2024 4:22 utc | 226

shadowbanned is a Might-Makes-Right bully and their overwhelming spamming of these threads skews the tenor balance of the comments by the MoA barflies toward Might-Makes-Right bullies and I resent that.
It is one thing to come here as others have done over the years and push this “ism” or that to extreme but the Might-Makes-Right bully shit coming from shadowbanned is a disservice to the history of us MoA old timers if nothing else.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 12 2024 20:15 utc | 84
What do you mean? Is this some sort of virtue signaling to the crowd? Moral posturing?
Might makes right. Marx recognized it. Lenin recognized it. Stalin recognized it. Mao recognized it. There’s no successful political movement in history that hasn’t drawn off the power of a part to society to subjugate the rest of it. Leave the pretty thoughts to the anarchists.
By the way, do you love all of Asimov or only up to the point where he turned into an eco-evangelist? Or maybe “Hari Seldon the martial artist with hot robot girlfriend” is more of your thing?
If you want to change society, you need to find a might to make a right. Or where do you think “rights” come from? God? Let’s talk these things, preferably off the grounds of dialectical materialism.

Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 4:25 utc | 227

Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 4:25 utc | 228
Might does not make right, but it certainly wins wars, and enforces everything else including the writing of history to favor the winners. Psychohistorian wishes it weren’t true.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 4:33 utc | 228

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 13 2024 4:22 utc | 227
Big wall of text like that isn’t good. I scrolled past it, as I suspect most others did. Consider paragraph breaks and some editing for clarity.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 4:41 utc | 229

Might does not make right, but it certainly wins wars, and enforces everything else including the writing of history to favor the winners. Psychohistorian wishes it weren’t true.
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 4:33 utc | 229
A “right” is an agreement, nothing more, nothing less, and always backed by the barrel of a gun.

Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 4:44 utc | 230

📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Report for the Morning of 12 March 2024; pub. 06:59📍
🗓 Yesterday, the enemy made several attempts to break through the State Border in the #Belgorod and #Kursk regions, simultaneously using up to one motorised infantry company with attached tanks. The attack took place after the enemy’s massive and indiscriminate shelling from MLRS and UAV strikes, including in the rear regions of #Russia, civilians were injured. The enemy was stopped at the border, our troops burned out the Ukrainian border area with bombs and artillery. At night, in the #Sumy direction, the RF Armed Forces struck FABs with UMPC and air based missile weapons at the AFU facilities.
💥 The enemy organised a UAV raid on the #Bryansk, #Voronezh, #Belgorod and #Kursk regions today at night. An industrial enterprise was shelled in the #Belgorod region, a civilian was injured, hospitalised with concussion and abrasions. In the morning, our air defence crews were still fighting against air targets in a number of directions. At 06:30, they reported the AFU shelling of Mokra Orlovka in the Grayvoron urban district, as well as #Shebekino (electrical supply facilities were out of order).
🔹In the #Kherson direction, the AFU are holding part of the #Krynki settlement with a small group of infantry under the cover of drones and artillery from their shore. 4 enemy boats were destroyed, trying to transfer supplies across the river. Last night, enemy infantry was attacked in the area of “dachas” near the #Antonovsky Bridge on our shore. The enemy is preparing for a possible operation by the Russian Army to force the #Dnieper, is building up a complex of engineering structures and mine-explosive barriers.
🔹On the #Zaporozhye front, fighting in #Rabotino and #Verbovoye. The AFU rotates personnel, strikes with artillery and drones, mines the area with heavy drones “Baba Yaga”. The enemy has gathered his strength and is preparing counterattacks. In the #Kamenskoye direction, the AFU deployed long range barrel and rocket artillery.
🔹South of #Maryinka, the RF Armed Forces continue to attack #Novomikhaylovka from the south, in the north the advance is slow due to the terrain. Our units are targeting enemy armored vehicles bringing up reserves and inflicting fire damage.
🔹On #Avdeyevka’s southern front, the settlement of #Nevelskoye (#DPR) has been liberated, which improves the capabilities of the Russian Army to advance in #Pervomayskoye.
🔹In the #ChasovYar direction, heavy fighting is taking place in #Ivanovskoye (#Krasnoye).
💥In the #Donetsk direction, the enemy purposefully hits the peaceful population with UAV drops. 6 civilians were injured.
📌 A number of sources report threats of the enemy conducting a joint action in the form of an landing operation on the coast of #Crimea or the #Kherson region with the task of destabilising the internal political situation in #Russia.
🎬 Working with FPV drones on the dryer support.
Zaporozhye direction, Verbovoye – planned monotonous work during communication, in the dugouts of dry landers. In the afternoon, one fascist went out into the street and after that our shooting began, and after that we launched FPV drones at the target. Having fixed the nearest entrance to their pit, we began by placing artillery shells there, and then switched to loitering ammunition by sending drones to the dry land.

https://t.me/two_majors/20476

Posted by: Down South | Mar 13 2024 4:55 utc | 231

“A “right” is an agreement, nothing more, nothing less, and always backed by the barrel of a gun.”
Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 4:44 utc | 231
No, I think you are wrong here. Sounds like you might be an amoral or immoral Libertardian who has read too many books by Ayn Rand and then had a big brain-freeze. Being the most well-armed gangster around certainly does not make one morally justified or “right”. But I get your point. It is realism. Crying about it doesn’t make it go away.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 4:57 utc | 232

No, I think you are wrong here. Sounds like you might be an amoral or immoral Libertardian who has read too many books by Ayn Rand and then had a big brain-freeze. Being the most well-armed gangster around certainly does not make one morally justified or “right”. But I get your point. It is realism. Crying about it doesn’t make it go away.
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 4:57 utc | 233
No, I’m Marxist-Leninist. What makes you morally justified? Let’s dive into that.

Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 5:02 utc | 233

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 4:41 utc | 230
Big wall of text like that isn’t good. I scrolled past it, as I suspect most others did. Consider paragraph breaks and some editing for clarity.
You are correct-thank you. I’ll pay a bit more attention to my presentation in future.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 13 2024 5:03 utc | 234

Interesting POV Jake, but you need to qualify your assertion of “military hatred” between the (majority) Slavic soldiers on both sides of the trenches.
Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 13 2024 4:22 utc | 227
I purposefully used the term “military hatred” (as in an armed soldier under command vs an armed soldier under command) to differentiate between ethnic or cultural similarities/differences *AND* to specify AFU vs RFAF operations as driven by their governments. Those “military frictions” would barely exist “down the pub” between Slavic brethren and as we’ve sometimes seen on the battlefield with compassion shown to the enemy injured.
Therefore I agreed with the whole rest of your post about the Western-Kievan concocted nature of the conflict and the nouveau Ukie nationalism. Cheers.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 13 2024 5:04 utc | 235

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 4:57 utc | 233
But I think this got a bit off-topic so maybe not the Ukraine war forum.

Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 5:09 utc | 236

Posted by: Sheepbanned | Mar 12 2024 18:32 utc | 37
No, Australia is a Koala abattoir due to the impact of unrestrained hi-octane financialised land speculation and public asset liquidation. Even the sheep are getting nervous in between diminishingly affordable bouts of retail therapy.

Posted by: Greg | Mar 13 2024 5:10 utc | 237

“A “right” is an agreement, nothing more, nothing less, and always backed by the barrel of a gun.”
Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 4:44 utc | 231
What about the so-called natural rights, like free speech and bearing arms to defend oneself? I admit my previous response wasn’t sufficient. In USA we already have lost our once-absolute freedom of association/assembly the with the Civil Rights Act in the 60s. LBJ sent US troops to Little Rock to make that point clear. No more freedom of association will be tolerated.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 5:12 utc | 238

https://t.me/gusev_36/1940

Dear residents of the Voronezh region, the danger of a UAV attack still remains. During the night, more than 30 drones were detected and destroyed by air defense systems in the region.
According to operational data from the fall sites of the remains of downed objects, in a number of municipalities there is minor damage to infrastructure and housing.
Thus, in the Buturlinovsky district, a private house and a transformer substation were damaged, and in the Sovetsky district of Voronezh, the roof of a store was partially destroyed. There were no casualties.
All services are already in place, we will provide assistance with restoration in full and in the shortest possible time.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 5:13 utc | 239

Meanwhile another refinery has been hit, this time in Ryazan:
https://t.me/readovkanews/75646

❗️Ryazan residents report explosions in the city
Ryazan residents have been hearing explosions in the city since the very morning and are sharing footage of a fire in the place where they sounded. Locals say they have noticed drones flying over the city and region.
In the footage that residents share online, an object similar to a UAV is also visible. There have been no official comments on this matter yet.

https://t.me/readovkanews/75648

Residents of Ryazan share footage of a flying UAV.
Residents of Ryazan are posting videos on social networks in which it is noticeable how an object similar to a UAV is flying over the city and region. There have been no official comments on this matter yet.
Earlier, local residents also reported the sound of an explosion in the city, after which a fire broke out at the site.

https://t.me/readovkanews/75651

Two people were hospitalized in moderate condition after a fire at an oil refinery in the Ryazan region,
doctors reported. Earlier, emergency services also confirmed a fire at the plant.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 5:15 utc | 240

In response to

Then there is psychohistorian. Who very regularly brings up the slur “patriarchy”. I’m still trying to figure out where “patriarchy” fits into all of this bullshit. It seems like Victoria Nuland, Hillary Clinton, 180 Baerbock, Van der Leyin, Nikki Haley etc are all fully biological women, not men.
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 3:45 utc | 214

You are correct about me bringing up the concept of patriarchy and I continually tie it in to the cultural anthropological view of the bullshit, as you call it. I write about the Sumerian era when women in the “West” lost agency in our form of social organization. It was also in this era that patriarchal monotheistic religions were created to mythify and sanctify male dominance.
The list of biological women you provide are in positions of power because they support male dominance and are hardly representative of real female energy. Real women influence in our form of social organization would eliminate wars and support sharing, compassion and negotiation instead.
Our species will only thrive, IMO, if both sexes are represented equally in the structure of social organization.
I stand by my Might-Makes-Right characterization of the underpinning of the God Of Mammon cult running the West. The China/Russia axis is trying its hardest to not become the monster bully they are putting down and I applaud their efforts.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 13 2024 5:17 utc | 241

Meanwhile the Kremlin continues to be in denial mode:
https://ria.ru/20240312/ataki-1932488377.html?in=t

The Kremlin commented on night UAV attacks on Russian territory
Peskov: terrorist activity from Kyiv continues
MOSCOW, March 12 – RIA Novosti. The Kiev regime continues terrorist activity against Russia, but the military is doing everything necessary, presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov told reporters, commenting on nighttime drone attacks.
“You and I already answered a similar question yesterday, I have nothing to add to what I already said: our military is doing everything that is necessary, air defense systems are working, of course, such terrorist activity continues in attempts to strike civilian targets, and so on from the Kyiv regime,” he said.
According to the press secretary, the Russian military is on alert and the military offensive continues.
According to the Ministry of Defense, last night air defense systems destroyed 25 Ukrainian aircraft-type drones: 11 over the Kursk region, seven over the Belgorod region, two each over the Moscow and Oryol regions, and one each in the Leningrad, Bryansk and Tula regions. In the morning, attempts at attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces continued.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 5:24 utc | 242

“But I think this got a bit off-topic so maybe not the Ukraine war forum.”
Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 5:09 utc | 237
True. Kind of silly though to try to determine exactly what can be allowed on the Ukraine war forum, dontcha think? It’s a huge subject. Not just about technical military stuff.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 5:25 utc | 243

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 13 2024 5:17 utc | 242
Thanks for explaining your position and responding to my post. I respect you and you write well, you have been at MoA a long time. I just disagree with you that women in power will make things all better. Thats all.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 5:41 utc | 244

You’re right, a few tactical pinpricks (to Russia) in the big scheme of the SMO seem nothing. But, they are cumulative escalatory enticements by the AFU and NATO which, as some suggest, if left unaddressed, invite larger escalatory q bigger pricks. The stitch-in-time is one analogy, or for your Dutch sensibilities, the little boy’s finger in the dyke comes to mind.
Sb is not simply a paranoid warmonger. His is pointing out the mechanics of escalation
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 13 2024 2:42 utc | 207

I have come to realize that the Cold War has been forgotten not just by the politicians who are currently leading us to the brink, but also by much of the “alternative” crowd.
What is happening right now — kinetic strikes on key infrastructure of the largest nuclear power — was completely inadmissible and unthinkable during the Cold War. There have always been rumors about some sabotage, but even that was generally a territory they didn’t dare go to.
Yeah, I know that people will bring up how the US flew U-2 planes over Russia, they’ve done it before. But that was in the early years of the Cold War, before mutually assured destruction was achieved, and stopped as soon as the first SAMs were rolled out by the Soviets.
Between 1962 and 1991 it was completely unthinkable for one side to be striking inside the deep rear of the other with dozens of projectiles daily, and to openly gloat about it, even if it is done by proxy.
Completely, completely unthinkable.
There was never anything fired by NATO into the USSR or even the rest of the Eastern Bloc, directly or through a proxy, and vice versa.
The rules of the game were very clear, and for a good reason — because while a few such hits in the grand scheme of things are not a big deal, they set a precedent that cannot be a allowed to be set. This is why a direct, even nuclear response was expected to the slightest such provocation, and in turn no such provocation was ever carried out.
But now we have this whole deterrence framework collapsing.
Putin isn’t some wise elder whose restraint is saving the world from annihilation, it is the exact opposite — by refusing to enforce red lines, he is making the world much more dangerous. This extends far beyond Russia, BTW — the US is becoming more and more uninhibited as a result of being allowed to do these things to Russia, what is to prevent them from striking inside China next? Speaking of which, if Xi is exercising pressure on Putin to just keep taking the hits, then Xi is also to blame for what is happening and has scored a strategic own goal into China’s net too.
Note that it didn’t have to be a nuclear strike the moment the Moskva was sunk. But at least shoot down the drones as a first step, then arrange for the death of some key NATO figures on a third party territory if NATO does not get the message. The Iranians did both of those things and so far nobody is touching them inside their own territory. Deterrence is working there, because they enforced it early.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 5:44 utc | 245

I happen to think a matriarchy, led by the likes of Victoria Nuland and Hilary Clinton and Baerbock and Van der Leyen and nany other women who have never served in actual combat will result in a huge slaughter of millions, maybe billions of people around the world. It’s happening now in Ukraine.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 5:51 utc | 246

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 13 2024 5:04 utc | 236
A fair comment Jake. Sometimes it is a bit hard (ambiguous) to work out the full intent and meaning of a post here.
Regards-

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 13 2024 5:51 utc | 247

It became clear to me during lunch what bothers me about the thread spamming that shadowbanned does here.
I have been commenting here for over a decade and the majority of the patrons of this bar comment in agreement with the China/Russia axis approach against the God Of Mammon cult Might-Makes-Right bullies.
shadowbanned is a Might-Makes-Right bully and their overwhelming spamming of these threads skews the tenor balance of the comments by the MoA barflies toward Might-Makes-Right bullies and I resent that.
It is one thing to come here as others have done over the years and push this “ism” or that to extreme but the Might-Makes-Right bully shit coming from shadowbanned is a disservice to the history of us MoA old timers if nothing else.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 12 2024 20:15 utc | 84
What a whiney post. Shadow annex has his opinions and you can read or ignore. Why are you so frightened by what he says? Don’t you have the balls to stand by your own opinion?

Posted by: Flash | Mar 13 2024 6:02 utc | 248

“I have come to realize that the Cold War has been forgotten not just by the politicians who are currently leading us to the brink, but also by much of the “alternative” crowd.”
Nah. Watching media carefully for the last 60 years, it is clear to all who are alert that the big power, the really big money power, the big media power, never really wanted to defeat the USSR. The media/govt hate against Russia is SO much more intense now than it ever was against the USSR, at any time. USSR and US has changed places.
So weird that all of the old “liberals” who once protested against the Vietnam War and loved Jane Fonda and even in 2003 criticicized the lie of Iraq WMD are all now fully pro-war against Russia. Hysterically so.
Its all about who/whom.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 6:08 utc | 249

Posted by: Flash | Mar 13 2024 6:02 utc | 249
Quit your masturbatory Libertardian stuff. Right does not make right, psycho is right about that. No real American would think so.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 6:18 utc | 250

What about the so-called natural rights, like free speech and bearing arms to defend oneself?
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 5:12 utc | 239
Like all the rest, social contracts.

Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 6:19 utc | 251

Just a reminder of a post not so long ago about an Orlov article in which a Russian general proposes in a book that to defeat a peer opponent one must not engage in high intensity warfare, because even if one wins lots of damage is incurred. Rather it is better to fight a peer opponent in a low intensity war of attrition like is happening in the SloMO now. So sound Russia military theory is behind the SloMO, don’t get distracted by people wanting a much hotter war in Ukraine.
And for the record, I consider SB to be a single person of Indian origin, though he has the hots for Bulgaria for some reason.

Posted by: gT | Mar 13 2024 6:28 utc | 252

Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 6:19 utc | 252
You are right. Social contracts. Now being negated at warp speed. Not pretty

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 6:34 utc | 253

https://t.me/treugolniklpr/23728

The governor of the Ryazan region,
the Ryazan oil refinery, was attacked by a UAV. The impact started a fire. According to preliminary information, there are casualties.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 6:36 utc | 254

Posted by: gT | Mar 13 2024 6:28 utc | 253
I am done with Orlov now. I suggest disregarding him. He said the greenhouse effect was false. I no longer trust him.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 6:39 utc | 255

“So why were western media, and politicians like Macron, late in recognizing the real situation?”
Because, as Elon Musk kindly pointed out in a tweet circa May 27 2018, the most influential Western Media is owned and controlled by Zionist jews. He even included a graphic in the tweet which NAMED 12 such outlets and the jewish movers and shakers within each organisation.
i.e. He drew us an effing picture!
And we still don’t get it!?
In Oz, and I presume the rest of the jewed-up West, and its jewed-up ‘news media’, “Israel” STILL has “a right to defend itself” and Russia’s SMO is STILL “unprovoked” despite the fact that both claims are totally false and contrary to International Law.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 13 2024 6:39 utc | 256

Orlov just lost my respect.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 6:42 utc | 257

You are right. Social contracts. Now being negated at warp speed. Not pretty
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 6:34 utc | 254
Of course it isn’t. The working people of the first and half of the second world are being enslaved by their governments, who are also trying to enslave the rest of the second and the third. Superpower oppression is gradually eroding the difference between the second and the third. We’re approaching the cusp and the fall of the evil empire.

Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 6:43 utc | 258

Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 6:43 utc | 260
You now seem to be talking serious nonsense. Oh well. I do that also. Sometimes talk good legitimate stuff, sometimes just dumb rant.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 6:51 utc | 259

Just a reminder of a post not so long ago about an Orlov article in which a Russian general proposes in a book that to defeat a peer opponent one must not engage in high intensity warfare, because even if one wins lots of damage is incurred. Rather it is better to fight a peer opponent in a low intensity war of attrition like is happening in the SloMO now. So sound Russia military theory is behind the SloMO, don’t get distracted by people wanting a much hotter war in Ukraine.
Posted by: gT | Mar 13 2024 6:28 utc | 253

Who is the peer and who is doing the attrition?
Here is just this morning’s tally:
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/63594

‼️🇷🇺🏴‍☠️During the night and morning, air defense forces destroyed 58 enemy drones – the Ministry of Defense
11 over the Belgorod region
, 8 over Bryansk,
29 over Voronezh,
8 over Kursk ,
1 over Ryazan,
1 over Leningrad.

How much did these drones cost, how much did it cost to shoot them down, and did Russia produce over 50-100 AD missiles today to replace the ones it used to shoot these down (often more than one is fired against each target)?
We also have another successful hit on a refinery, third one in three days.
I don’t see 50 drones flying daily along the US East Coast with air defense spending expensive missiles trying to shoot them down, nor do I see refineries going up in smoke in the region.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 6:51 utc | 260

https://t.me/RVvoenkor/63591

‼️💥Explosion in Belgorod: the enemy hit a residential building.
There are no official data yet.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 6:52 utc | 261

‘….but Australia isn’t even a proper country, it is a sheep ranch and glorified koala nursery.’
LOL!
Some of the comments are hilarious.
Rock on Doc Eleven! You are on fire sir! Much respect!

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Mar 13 2024 6:55 utc | 262

Just to clarify on my above comment, I neglected to say who the commenter is…. Sheepbanned… Hahaha!

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Mar 13 2024 6:58 utc | 263

Doc Eleven is just a little too much of a fan boy. Kind of embarrassing.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 7:00 utc | 264

@Wisco | Mar 13 2024 6:39 utc | 257

I am done with Orlov now. I suggest disregarding him. He said the greenhouse effect was false. I no longer trust him.

Science is not about trust. Science happens when the scientific method is applied.
The Key to Science

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 13 2024 7:04 utc | 265

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 11 2024 20:23 utc | 71
The American voting public will never again have a choice between candidates for high elected office that represents any significant threat to the “establishment” (Wall Street, MIC, mass media, Beltway elite) status quo.
thanks to Tom_Q_Collings @168 for his post of the link to
https://tomdispatch.com/the-american-empire-in-ultimate-crisis/ it fills in much of the following:
Posted by: La Bastille | Mar 12 2024 21:04 utc | 109
Macron’s position can be summed up as a form of blackmail.
Posted by: Naive | Mar 12 2024 21:17 utc | 114
His position is very simple: to bankrupt the country and privatise everything. No blackmail, just a program to be carried to its end.
<=Worldwide, those with agendas use the nation state system [its law, treaties. politics, economy, trade agreements, militarized police, scientifically designed and engineered propaganda, etc.] to force the governed into environments that corrupt the purpose of government but enhance the private interest of those with agendas[profit is an agenda]. <=On both sides of the Atlantic and Pacific, the game has been to privatize the assets, rights, monopoly powers and resources owned by national governments. The so-called one world government is not intended to be a government in the true sense of the meaning of the word government; instead it is intended that all national governments will become departments within the global, privately owned, multi-national Mafia-like commercial enterprises. And of course it is the wealthy, powerful few who own these Mafia-like commercial enterprises. Exclusive ownership of all monopoly power, exclusive ownership of all assets [tangible and intangible], exclusive ownership of all authority and rights of whatever kind or nature characterizes the initial condition of the governments that operate within each state of the 256 national governments within the nation state system. In theory, the government owns each human and everything the human can invent, discover or produce, the government exclusively owns all land, all improvements, all natural resources, all technology, all rights (including the right to print money and to murder or enslave its citizens (arguably humans rights are operative only when the governed humanity is powerful enough to enforce their human rights against government authority). The government has one and only responsibility, it is expected to provide from its assets, resources, and monopoly powers the best possible welfare for those it governs? Taking the above as the starting point, it is easy to see that private interest have taken over the nation state system and assumed ownership of all assets and all rights, all resources and all monopoly powers. The only part of government remaining in national government is the obligation of government to provide for the welfare of those it governs<=but government no longer has the resources it needs to do that? IOWs humanity has been robbed, first by its government, and then by those who robbed the government. Consider Monopoly powers (copyrights, deeds and patents [CDPs], created by rule of law IOT transfer government owned assets and monopoly powers to a few private owners (corporation, partnership, trust or oligarch). In light of the above, it is not difficult to see that governments have given so much of their assets and monopoly powers away; that governments no longer have the ability to direct the use of resources or to exercise monopoly powers to pursue their obligations to provide for the general welfare. These powers, assets and rights are now owned by private enterprise and private enterprise is owned by very very few selected from the masses. Unfortunately Private enterprise has been taken over by gangsters-types who have been made so powerful by these transfers that they now own or control the governments that made them so powerful. If the premise is true, that government owns everything and retains all monopoly powers and is constituted solely to use "its all" to provide for the general welfare, how would government ever justify war?

Posted by: snake | Mar 13 2024 7:05 utc | 266

So why were western media, and politicians like Macron, late in recognizing the real situation?
Posted by b on March 12, 2024 at 16:59 UTC | Permalink
Journalists lie, usually by omission.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 13 2024 7:06 utc | 267

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 12 2024 18:33 utc | 38
I’ve seen good poker players re-raising into an obviously losing hand because they cannot let go of the initial premise that their QQ or KK in itself ought to be a winning hand. In a comp a few years back I folded AA in the face of flushed board, but the cards had to be almost torn from my hands. Against every reality I couldn’t face that AA was not going to win. They all thought that Ukraine was paired paint, but Russia was holding a flush the whole time. And now they can’t fold when it is the only sane move. So let them go all-in. It’s a valuable lesson.
Just have to say… Excellent comment. So true. They just can’t accept that the Russians have just handed all of NATO’s buttocks to them. Its beautiful to watch mountains of hubris get smashed away by the unassuming modest, fair guy. For once, in this situation at least, the good guy (relatively speaking) wins.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Mar 13 2024 7:06 utc | 268

You now seem to be talking serious nonsense. Oh well. I do that also. Sometimes talk good legitimate stuff, sometimes just dumb rant.
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 6:51 utc | 261
I was just doing an extremely simplified take on the events according to my understanding of the three worlds theory. What can’t be debated is that the production centers have shifted radically over the last fifty years.

Posted by: Tichy | Mar 13 2024 7:12 utc | 269

That ‘s how low ‘liberal democracy’ has fallen…. the guy is caretaker PM and offered a nato job but… no conflict of interest here! Tax heavens and drug money called to the rescue of French economy
https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/03/netherlands-to-order-four-new-submarines-from-french-shipbuilder/

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 13 2024 7:16 utc | 270

https://t.me/dva_majors/36536

Belgorod region
UAVs attacked the building of the Russian FSB Directorate in Belgorod

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 7:16 utc | 271

https://t.me/RVvoenkor/63595

‼️🇷🇺🏴‍☠️The enemy is again deploying forces with NATO armored vehicles for a new attempt to break through the border
▪️Nazi traitors from the Nazi “Legion” created by the GUR from Russian traitors and foreigners are again deploying units to try to break through our border.
▪️Russian troops cover them with artillery fire and attack drones.
▪️Despite yesterday’s bloody failure, according to available data, the militants will still be thrown into meat for the Russian presidential elections.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 7:17 utc | 272

https://t.me/readovkanews/75659

This is what the Voronezh market looks like after a UAV attack – windows in shops and on counters are broken and display cases are damaged.
One of the markets in Voronezh was damaged after a night UAV attack on the city – the footage shows broken glass, damaged structures of retail outlets and scattered goods. The area around the market is now cordoned off, and emergency services are working on the spot.
Fortunately, there were no people in the market at that time and no one was injured. The operational headquarters in Voronezh is now investigating the consequences of the attack to determine if there was any damage to infrastructure facilities.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 7:17 utc | 273

Wondering if any of you long-time posters barflies here have an opinion of the guy named “Larch” who now only posts on Martyanov’s blog. He was a also a big deal on the old Saker blog. I am a bit leery of him because he seems to hate Simplicius for some reason. Seems to go back to the Saker days. Any opinions?

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 7:17 utc | 274

https://t.me/readovkanews/75655

The Ryazan oil pipeline was attacked by a UAV – regional governor Pavel Malkov.
As a result of the attack, a fire started, according to preliminary data, there were casualties. Previously, doctors also reported about them – according to them, two people received moderate injuries.
The governor of the region is now at the scene of the incident, and all the intelligence services are working there.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 7:19 utc | 275

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1767808697999180229

“These are the aircraft-type UAVs, the enemy attacks the Russian regions on the third day. Drones may vary in size, but the shape of the structure is about the same for everyone.
This batch of 1,000 pieces was recently transferred to the Armed Forces of the NATO countries through France.
In the video, Ryazan, the area of the oil refinery.”
The supply of Western weapons does not affect the situation at the front in Ukraine. The military of NATO countries in Ukraine also does not affect the situation. NATO drones over Russia and burning oil refineries do not affect the situation. What else should Russia suffer in order for this to finally affect the situation?

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 7:23 utc | 276

Posted by: shadowRAND | Mar 13 2024 5:44 utc | 246
Afghanistan.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 13 2024 7:26 utc | 277

This slow-moving line of contact hurts like hell, hurts Ukraine and the West – and Russia is in no mood bragging about it. Why advertise the violence it’s bringing to them? Why do it like the only democracy in the Middle-East does it?

Posted by: js | Mar 13 2024 7:35 utc | 278

“I am a bit leery of him because he seems to hate Simplicius for some reason. Seems to go back to the Saker days. Any opinions?”
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 7:17 utc | 276
I slightly distrust him now. He is a Hollywood person by admission. He dumps on Simplicius who outclasses him 1000% and knows a lot more. Thats my take on it. I wish Larch wouldn’t rip apart people who are on his side but people get caught up in their egos big time.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 7:35 utc | 279

@ 109 la bastile
thanks.. very good insights..
@ js 146 or 148..
yes, i agree.. it is very difficult to follow, but i think you are correct..
just finished reading to 200 posts..

Posted by: james | Mar 13 2024 7:39 utc | 280

This is just delusional:
https://ria.ru/20240313/putin-1932652995.html

– The fact is that the military of Western countries have been present in Ukraine for a long time, they were present even before the coup d’etat, and after the coup d’etat their number increased multiple times. Now they are present directly, in the form of advisers, they are present in the form of foreign mercenaries and are suffering losses. But if we are talking about official military contingents of foreign states, then I am sure that this will not change the situation on the battlefield. It’s the most important. Just as the supply of weapons does not change anything.
[…]
They use these British and American missiles. This does not change the situation on the battlefield. Yes, they simply cause us harm, of course. It is obvious. But in essence, this does not change the course of hostilities and the consequences that inevitably occur for the opposite side. We are now hearing what they have in the same Germany. And your channels, and foreign channels, and German channels show how many of them are out of order, how much they require improvement, modernization, and so on. Let them work.

Also, this is the first time ever he mentions Kherson:

– Vladimir Vladimirovich, but still, during the difficult moments of last year at the front, in connection with Kharkov or Kherson, did the thought of tactical nuclear weapons flash through your mind?
– For what? Despite the fact that, at the proposal of the then command, this group, on our part, a decision was made to withdraw troops from Kherson, but this did not at all mean that our front there was falling apart. There was nothing even close to this. This was simply done in order not to incur unnecessary losses among personnel. That’s all. This was the most important motive, because in conditions of combat operations, when it was impossible to fully supply the group located on the right bank, we would simply suffer unjustified losses of personnel. Because of this, it was decided to relocate to the left bank.
And the correctness of this choice was confirmed by what the Ukrainian command tried to do in certain areas of the left bank – in the same settlement of Krynki. They just threw their people in there like into a meat grinder and that’s it. They’ve been running around there barefoot lately, in the literal sense of the word. In the literal sense of the word. They tried to throw ammunition there by high-speed boats and drones. Well, what is it? Well? It was just for slaughter, they were just sent for slaughter.

The moment when it will be difficult to supply Kaliningrad will also come soon. Is he going to just pull out of there too?
Also, just meekly accepting the use of NATO equipment to invade Russia:

– I can’t help but ask, Vladimir Vladimirovich, these attacks on the Belgorod and Kursk regions are simply military actions that are taking place in our regions. Are they acting more brazen, are they feeling something? What causes this?
– The explanation is very simple. All this is happening against the backdrop of failures on the line of contact, on the front line. They did not achieve any of the goals they set for themselves last year. Moreover, now the initiative has completely passed to our armed forces. Everyone knows this, everyone admits it, here, I think, I won’t say anything new. But against the backdrop of those failures, they need to show at least something, and mainly attention should be focused on the information side of the matter. Here on the state border line the enemy tried to attack, first of all, with sabotage groups – here is the latest report of the General Staff – somewhere up to 300 people, including with the participation of foreign mercenaries. The enemy’s losses amounted to more than 200 people, approximately 230. Of the eight tanks used, the enemy lost seven, of nine armored vehicles – nine, of which seven were American-made Bradley. Other armored vehicles were also used, but mainly for transporting personnel: they bring them up, drop them off and immediately leave. This is on the Belgorod section of the border. There, a little further south, in my opinion, in one place, with much smaller forces. But nevertheless, the main goal, I have no doubt about it, is to, if not disrupt the presidential elections in Russia, then at least somehow interfere with the normal process of expressing the will of citizens. First. Secondly, this is the information effect, which I have already mentioned. But thirdly, if at least something works out, to get some chance, some argument, some trump card in a possible future negotiation process: well, we will return this to you, and you will return this to us. I said that it is easier to talk to people who are guided by the principles of “fed, drunk and nose in the known material”, because you can take into account what they are going to do. They will also try in some other areas. But we see it.

And not a word about the deep rear hits.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 7:47 utc | 281

Does Shadowbanned ever dare to confront Andrei Martyanov? I bet not.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 7:48 utc | 282

… And for the record, I consider SB to be a single person of Indian origin, though he has the hots for Bulgaria for some reason.
Posted by: gT | Mar 13 2024 6:28 utc | 253

European, rather than American, probably someone in or around the Soros / WEF entourage. The nuke emphasis comes across like something the Sorosites want as a solid narrative foundation for an anlmost unassailable east-west divide. All the better to run isolated Europe as their own strange little brothel, which seems to be their natural governance model.

Posted by: anon2020 | Mar 13 2024 7:58 utc | 283

Washington is not such a reliable friend of France if one recalls the GE/Alstom saga (Pierogi) or the Australian submarine affair.

Posted by: Richard L | Mar 13 2024 0:37 utc | 173
Or the Freedom Fries thing, which demonstrates how butthurt Washington can get if one of its vassals were to refuse to join its imperial misadventures. It smacks of a similar “cancel culture” (if you can call it that) the US dabbled in when it joined WWI: it forbade the performance of German composers’ works, renamed sauerkraut to ‘Liberty Cabbage’ and murdered various German dog breeds (but that’s another story).

Posted by: joey_n | Mar 13 2024 7:59 utc | 284

Andrei doesn’t want nuclear war, but for some reason Shadowbanned does. Every single post.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 8:02 utc | 285

Posted by: shadowRAND | Mar 13 2024 5:44 utc | 246
Despite giving an answer that shows that you’re wrong again to state ‘Russia’ was never humiliated during the Cold War, I’m kicking myself now, for answering your falsely framed question where you construct an arbitrary timeframe (‘the Cold War’) where the geopolitical situation was very different to todays emerging new world order. Indeed by arbitrarily selecting the Cold War you deliberately cut out Operation Barbarossa…you studied Russia enough from afar to know that the current NATO driven terrorist PR stunts that you are trying ever so hard to amplify on these boards, represent 0.000001% of the millions dead, millions taken prisoner, Nazi annihilation of the Baltics, the Ukraine, Belarus, the siege of Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad during the Great Patriotic War.
In historical context, which you are so keen for everyone to forget as you attempt to whip up hysteria, your “Angry Patriot Club War of 2024” doesn’t even register.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 13 2024 8:10 utc | 286

Why do you so continuously and vociferously advocate for nuclear war, shadowbanned? Seems like a terrible idea.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 8:12 utc | 287

Unsurprisingly there is nothing in western corporate media about the Krasnogorovka situation and Syrsky’s latest stellar career move.
Anyone plugged into Telegram aggregators care to share the latest news from Krasnogorovka…

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 13 2024 8:16 utc | 288

Why do you so continuously and vociferously advocate for nuclear war, shadowbanned? Seems like a terrible idea.
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 8:12 utc | 289

It’s actually the exact opposite – the current Kremlin policy is making total nuclear war inevitable. Either that or Russia will cease to exist. Both outcomes will be total disaster for the world.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 8:20 utc | 289

Unsurprisingly there is nothing in western corporate media about the Krasnogorovka situation and Syrsky’s latest stellar career move.
Anyone plugged into Telegram aggregators care to share the latest news from Krasnogorovka…
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 13 2024 8:16 utc | 290

We’ve been there many time before with Zaluzhny, Budanov, and Syrski himself. All three are still alive and well.
It also makes absolutely no sense for Syrsky to go to Krasnogorovka when the Russians are already inside the first streets on the edge of it

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 8:21 utc | 290

https://t.me/remylind21/16169

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Russian Paratroopers and Marines landed at night on the right bank of the Dnieper at the foot of the Antonovsky Bridge and destroyed several enemy positions. After that, they retreated to the left bank without losses, said Kherson governor Saldo.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 8:23 utc | 291

Posted by: Johnny | Mar 12 2024 22:22 utc | 136
I could not produce such pictures, not on my own anyway, maybe some remote fam members could, I was never one to take or keep photos much back then or now.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Mar 13 2024 0:24 utc | 169
Not that it matters toward the funny quip but M.Gaetz is a house member not a senator.
Posted by: bored | Mar 13 2024 2:17 utc | 202
I think you’re talking about the already beached tanker\cargo shipwreck that was supposedly being used to house some elint and ecm ops that was struck by art, if so hardly “another ship”.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 13 2024 2:27 utc | 204
Now that is kinda amusing. lol
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Mar 13 2024 2:36 utc | 206
You are not, previously mentioned in the thread.
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 3:30 utc | 210
I noticed, yes the SNR here is quite low at times.
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 6:08 utc | 250
I find it weird as well, as to media, I agree it’s seem far more intense now. However, I only experienced mid 70’s and 80’s of that CW first hand as ‘news consumer’ as teen\adult to compare it too though. But then that was a time largely before 24×7 news, instant access to it, or to a searchable global print and video library from ones home or pocket, and the drive to feed content to all that, existed. Lord only knows what they would have done with it, I’d like to think it might have been more reserved, but that is probably wishful thinking.

Posted by: knighthawk | Mar 13 2024 8:26 utc | 292

Why do you so continuously and vociferously advocate for nuclear war, shadowbanned? Seems like a terrible idea.
Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 8:12 utc | 289
It’s actually the exact opposite – the current Kremlin policy is making total nuclear war inevitable. Either that or Russia will cease to exist. Both outcomes will be total disaster for the world.
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 8:20 utc | 291
Of course nuclear war is a terrible idea, likely the dumbest idea in human history.
The spectre of imminent nuclear war, combined with a perception of “Mad Vlad™️” are essential components in the western military industrial complex strategy to increase military spending and shareholder profits for the arms producers.
ShadowRAND lacks all credibility to be a real psyop, but being based in the west it is likely he holds BAE or Raytheon shares and his appearances here are a sad effort to talk up his stock values with mad Vlad digs (“he should be guillotined on Red Square” he said) and daily advocacy of nuclear strikes. Greed and personal gain is the motivating factor in many cases.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 13 2024 8:33 utc | 293

A little xDnieper raid of their own

The joint assault group of the Dnepr group of troops carried out a daring raid at night, Governor Saldo reports.
▪️Marines, paratroopers and volunteers disembarked from watercraft at the base of the Antonovsky Bridge. Due to the surprise, the enemy did not have time to react in time. Our soldiers destroyed several enemy positions, including a UAV control center and an electronic warfare station, observation, communications and manpower concentration points.
▪️The total enemy losses were up to 30 militants. Our fighters managed to retreat to the left bank without irreparable losses.
https://t.me/geromanat/22590

Up near the x-border activities

Russian Iskander demolishes the temporary deployment point of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Buimer.
https://t.me/geromanat/22587

pic:One of 40 enemy drones shot down in the Voronezh region.
PS. The fire at the refinery in the Ryazan region was extinguished. [but there is damage]
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/116259

Operation ‘make noise prior to at least election day’ continues, thus far with similar results.

The fourth day of the battle on the Belgorod border has begun. The enemy traditionally launches a large number of UAVs of all types; our air defense is very active. The enemy’s personnel and equipment, and there really is a lot of it, are probing our positions in the Grayvoron direction. Artillery and tanks are actively working. There are battles going on.

Real, or more relative bs fed to EU\Western audiences in the hopes for ever more money and gear, or a bit of both? You decide:

Ukrainian commanders told Der Spiegel that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not last long
▪️Armed Forces officers spoke about the situation in different sectors of the front. Most of them agree: due to insufficient supplies, almost all units are forced to conserve ammunition.
▪️Some troops can now hold their positions – and then only until the Russian army attacks in full force.
▪️If the attacks intensify, then due to an acute shortage of personnel, weapons and ammunition, they will not be able to be stopped for long.
▪️Then the Ukrainian Armed Forces units would have to retreat – however, the positions for retreat are also poorly developed.
▪️“The Ukrainians are struggling right now, and the Russians are advancing all along the front,” said military expert Mark Cancian of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
▪️Ukraine is trying to stick to an active defense strategy, but instead of counterattacking, it is losing more and more high-quality equipment from the West. Many units will soon run out of ammunition.
▪️“We won’t be able to hold out like this for long,” the Ukrainian Armed Forces admitted to the Ukrainian artillery at Ugledar.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/63581

Posted by: knighthawk | Mar 13 2024 8:43 utc | 294

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 13 2024 8:33 utc | 295

Cut it off, please.
To the question asked why I am posting so much here, it is because what is happening the last few days is a rapid approach towards the worst-case scenario and I have very hard time focusing on much else.
It is very simple:
— MAD exists based on the assumption that neither side is insane/suicidal enough to launch an attack on the other
— But if one side does launch such an attack, then the other has two options — fight back or fold.
— This basic calculus is very clear when the attack is nuclear — you launch a second strike
— But what happens is the attack is conventional and slowly escalating over time? Well, the outcome will be the same — in the long term you face the choices of fighting back or folding. But the longer you wait before you start fighting back, the more things will have escalated. If you start fighting back early, you have a chance of cutting off the escalation before the only option left is nuclear strikes.
We are exactly in that situation — the West is in this weird state of having lost its survival instincts while mobilizing all its deviousness towards defeating Russia and is openly attacking now.
What do you do?
Covering your eyes and ears and pretending it is all fine is not going to solve anything.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 8:43 utc | 295

Eh. Shadowbanned does haslbe credibility with facts and thats why b will never ban him/her. Not prudent to deny it. The weirder thing is that no matter what happens, Shaddowbanned wants a nuclear war.

Posted by: Wisco | Mar 13 2024 8:48 utc | 296

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 8:21 utc | 292
Thanks for answering a question. Most uncharacteristic of you.
In doing so you confirm that Syrsky has lost another settlement / fortification, which whatever is left of his propaganda corps will describe to their western media stenographers as “strategically unimportant”.
In two days time Zelensky at the say so of Genocide Joe will order Syrsky to send thousands of freshly press ganged victims to the eat grinder in a counter attack on the “strategically unimportant” settlement.
Care to comment on that genius plan? It’s been going on for two years.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Mar 13 2024 8:52 utc | 297

To the question asked why I am posting so much here, it is because what is happening the last few days is a rapid approach towards the worst-case scenario and I have very hard time focusing on much else.
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Mar 13 2024 8:43 utc | 297
Translation: I have nothing else to do with my pathetic life so I spam a message forum anonymously on an event that has not, and will never, come to pass, in order to relive the loneliness I feel.
I mean seriously Brave Sir Shadwobanned, if you have mental health issues, I suggest you get some help. You’ve just admitted you have anxiety over a nuclear war. You need to talk to a professional. Your obsessive compulsiveness is not something you have control over now

Posted by: James M. | Mar 13 2024 8:54 utc | 298

In other news, as expected the discharge petition has started in the US House for the ~100B Ukraine\Israel\TW slush fund bill. Contrary to some theater, chances of success are far higher than failure,imho, but we’ll see soon enough.

Posted by: knighthawk | Mar 13 2024 8:54 utc | 299

Posted by: snake | Mar 13 2024 7:05 utc | 268
Brilliant !!!
Well said that man.
Now all you have to do is convince millions of people who kept voting for it as the Overton window was always pushed rightwards. As they q’d up to vote against their own class interests.
Ask them to look in the mirror and accept responsibility for their actions. Nope, they are ideologues and continue to wave their placards and shouts their slogans even though they have never reflected reality.
2008 should have been the end of them, yet here we are.
Facts don’t change people’s minds. They are bred as sheep from the age of 5 in education camps. Wrapped in ideological blankets and painted in GROUPTHINK. Sleep dreaming of the free market tooth fairy.
You have spent enough time on here to realise ” it is always somebody else’s fault ” not those who always voted in a way to get us where we are.

Posted by: Echo Chamber | Mar 13 2024 8:56 utc | 300