Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
February 29, 2024
Zionists Use Food-Baits To Attract And Kill Starving Civilians

The Zionist occupation forces send food into the northern Gaza strip to then kill starving Palestinians who try to collect it.

Food aid reaches north Gaza for first time in weeks, Israeli officials sayAP, Feb 28 2024

Aid convoys carrying food reached northern Gaza this week, Israeli officials said on Wednesday, the first major delivery in a month to the devastated, isolated area, where the UN has warned of worsening starvation among hundreds of thousands of Palestinians amid Israel’s offensive.

Across Gaza, more than 576,000 people, a quarter of the population, are a step away from famine, the UN says.

But northern Gaza in particular has been gutted by hunger. The north has largely been cut off and much of it has been levelled since Israeli ground troops invaded in late October.

Several hundred thousand Palestinians are believed to remain there, and many have been reduced to eating animal fodder to survive.

A convoy of 31 trucks carrying food entered northern Gaza on Wednesday, the Israeli military office that oversees Palestinian civilian affairs said.

The office, known by the acronym COGAT, said nearly 20 other lorries entered the north on Monday and Tuesday.

Associated Press footage showed people carrying sacks of flour from the distribution site.

It was not immediately clear who carried out the deliveries.

The UN was not involved, said a spokesman for the UN’s humanitarian co-ordination office, Eri Keneko.

The trucks were sent by the Zionists. No other organization was involved. But when people came near to the trucks to collect the food they had carried into Gaza the Zionist went berserk:

‘Massacre’: Dozens killed by Israeli fire in Gaza while collecting food aidAl Jazeerah, Feb 29 2024

More than 100 Palestinians have been killed and some 700 others wounded after Israeli troops opened fire on hundreds waiting for food aid southwest of Gaza City, health officials say, as the besieged enclave faces an unprecedented hunger crisis.

The Gaza Ministry of Health said on Thursday said at least 104 people were killed and more than 750 wounded, with the Palestinian Ministry of Foreign Affairs condemning what it said was a cold-blooded “massacre”.

People had congregated at al-Rashid Street, where aid trucks carrying flour were believed to be on the way. Al Jazeera verified footage showing the bodies of dozens of killed and wounded Palestinians being carried onto trucks as no ambulances could reach the area.

“We went to get flour. The Israeli army shot at us. There are many martyrs on the ground and until this moment we are withdrawing them. There is no first aid,” said one witness.

Reporting from the scene, Al Jazeera’s Ismail al-Ghoul said that after opening fire, Israeli tanks advanced and ran over many of the dead and injured bodies. “It is a massacre, on top of the starvation threatening citizens in Gaza,” he said.

One Palestinian man told Quds News Network the military attack was a “crime”.

“I have been waiting since yesterday. At about 4:30 this morning, trucks started to come through. Once we approached the aid trucks, the Israeli tanks and warplanes started firing at us, as if it was a trap.

“To the Arab states I say, if you want to have us killed, why are you sending relief aid? If this continues, we do not want any aid delivered at all. Every convoy coming means another massacre.

The Zionist are deliberately starving Palestinians.

But this is even worse.

The killing today was not by chance. I do not believe that it was unintentional. The food deliveries were under Israeli controls. So were the troops who killed the Palestinians who tried to collect the 'aid'.

This is not the first time that a food convoy or aid distribution has been used by the Zionists to attract and then kill starving Palestinians.

This is an extremely brutal and cynical way to genocide them.

Comments

When killing rats it always helps to place a little cheese in the trap…SNAP!!!

Posted by: Yaron Brook | Mar 1 2024 13:23 utc | 201

Posted by: Yaron Brook | Mar 1 2024 13:23 utc | 201
Your despicable anti-human comment has no place among decent human beings, nor on this blog.
I am expecting b to ban you so that you never appear here again.

Posted by: JB | Mar 1 2024 13:33 utc | 202

How many people want an insider’s view of just how and when the Jews of Israel turned genocidal?
It’s not obvious,, you know – it wasn’t always like this, as once upon a time Jewish people in Israel – and outside – prided themselves on being “better than that”. They actually really did. I know it for a fact because I believed it too, even as I always was a bit of a skeptic.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: Merlin2 | Mar 1 2024 5:02 utc | 156
____
Would that have been before or after the Nakba?
I’m sure the Jews of Occupied Palestine still believe they’re “better than that,” because no matter how depraved the atrocity, they believe it’s a blessing to commit it.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 1 2024 13:45 utc | 203

Israel’s leaders first were merely going to lose their positions over Gaza massacres.
Then it was prison and the rolling up of the Zionist Israel state.
But they never stopped. Now they’re looking at a Nuremberg rope.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Mar 1 2024 12:36 utc | 198
____
Because that will never happen, I’d prefer a Mussolini- or Gaddafi-style end to the leaders of Occupied Palestine.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 1 2024 13:46 utc | 204

@ Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 29 2024 22:43 utc | 95
Well said, and thank you!

Posted by: Clever Dog | Mar 1 2024 13:48 utc | 205

@3
@7
All that’s old, is new again.
If you really want to understand how food is weaponized, who perfected the process, who transferred the technology to say Nazis, Communists, Zionists…..read up on the Great Famine. The Brits perfected it so well, they used it in countless countries they raped plundered and pillaged over the years.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 29 2024 16:40 utc | 11
Crowell’s devastation of Ireland in the 1650’s:
“The Irish can never forget it and the English can never remember it.
GK Chesterton

Posted by: canuck | Mar 1 2024 13:48 utc | 206

@ Posted by: Merlin2 | Mar 1 2024 5:02 utc | 156
I agree. Each of us has, by our human nature, the capacity to do what has been done by any other human. That is, the capacity to be just as courageous, generous and good-willed, or to be just as fearful, selfish, and hate-filled. And as our circumstances change, our behavior may be pressured in one direction or another. We have the freedom to choose how we respond to the pressure. And sometimes the pressure is very great and we are overwhelmed. Sometimes we receive the gift of being overwhelmed by Love. I wish that for all.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Mar 1 2024 14:16 utc | 207

Tough to watch this unfold. I don’t think there’s enough faith in the entire world to explain away the horror we have see. From one stage to the next i doubt it’s ever going to end. I sure hope it does but looking at history. When we think its over, it’s just another chapter of corruption and deceit.
Hoping for critical mass, highly doubt it, but afraid if we lose hope, we really have compeletely lost the fight for what’s good and true.
Keep your heads up, we the aware, are in this together. We are not alone, we struggle with this together. Not that it does much to change things but misery does seem to love company.
Sending hope and praying for peace
(not to any one’s God but the one thing that connects us all)
Life is a waterfall,
” we are one in the river and one again after fall”
system of a down
Peace be upon us.

Posted by: Paul Savage | Mar 1 2024 14:36 utc | 208

Don Firineach
From the evacuation of Gaza 2005
‘ A former deputy head of the Shin Bet security service reportedly told a political gathering that MK Betzalel Smotrich, the head of the National Union party, was a “Jewish terrorist,” who planned to blow up cars on a major highway during the 2005 Gaza disengagement.
Yitzhak Ilan, who is running on the Blue and White list, told a gathering of party activists that he personally interrogated Smotrich, who was arrested in the run up to the Gaza evacuation, Channel 13 reported Sunday. In 2005.

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 1 2024 14:38 utc | 209

@ Posted by: canuck | Mar 1 2024 13:48 utc | 206
From Wikipedia:
The Cromwellian conquest of Ireland or Cromwellian war in Ireland (1649–1653) was the re-conquest of Ireland by the forces of the English Parliament, led by Oliver Cromwell, during the Wars of the Three Kingdoms. Cromwell invaded Ireland with the New Model Army on behalf of England’s Rump Parliament in August 1649.
Following the Irish Rebellion of 1641, most of Ireland came under the control of the Irish Catholic Confederation. In early 1649, the Confederates allied with the English Royalists, who had been defeated by the Parliamentarians in the English Civil War. By May 1652, Cromwell’s Parliamentarian army had defeated the Confederate and Royalist coalition in Ireland and occupied the country, ending the Irish Confederate Wars (or Eleven Years’ War). However, guerrilla warfare continued for a further year. As punishment for the rebellion of 1641, Cromwell passed a series of Penal Laws against Roman Catholics (the vast majority of the population) and confiscated large amounts of their land, which was given to British settlers. The remaining Catholic landowners were transplanted to Connacht. The Act of Settlement 1652 formalised the change in land ownership. Catholics were barred from the Irish Parliament altogether, forbidden to live in towns and from marrying Protestants.
The Parliamentarian conquest was brutal, and Cromwell remains a deeply reviled figure in Ireland.[4] The extent to which Cromwell, who was in direct command for the first year of the campaign, was responsible for the atrocities is debated to this day. Some authors[5] have argued that the actions of Cromwell were within what many empires at the time viewed as accepted rules of war, while many academic historians disagree.[6]
The impact of the war on the Irish population was unquestionably severe and although there is no consensus as to the magnitude of the loss of life, most modern estimates generally fall in between 15 and 50% of the native population. The war resulted in famine, which was worsened by an outbreak of bubonic plague. Older estimates of the drop in the Irish population resulting from the Parliamentarian campaign reach as high as 83 percent.[11] The Parliamentarians also transported about 50,000 people as indentured labourers to the English colonies in North America and the Caribbean.[1] Some estimates cover population losses over the course of the Conquest Period (1649–52) only,[12] while others cover the period of the Conquest to 1653 and the period of the Cromwellian Settlement from August 1652 to 1659 together.
—————
Wow, I knew about the 19th century famine in Ireland but I was ignorant about this. No wonder the writers of the US constitution tried to keep religion out of government.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Mar 1 2024 14:55 utc | 210

Menz@175…..there are lots of ‘voices’ in the UK Parliament, unfortunately when someone sane takes the floor to speak truth to lies, the rest of the fucking assholes get up and leave.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 1 2024 14:55 utc | 211

Until all Jews are removed from positions of power worldwide, this horror will continue.
If you don’t want to fear the Jews, live a morally unimpeachable life, so that the slime won’t have any Kompromat on You. Real Men only die once. Slaves die thousands of deaths due to their lack of sel-respect.
Prayers for the Martyrs 🙏

Posted by: OldFart | Mar 1 2024 15:06 utc | 212

It is completely evident that biblical fascism is currently the most influential in the last version of the Roman empire, occupying in the minds the place left by German fascism.
The book of Daniel says that the souls of the righteous will shine in heaven. And we all, outside the Western bubble, know that the souls of the Zionists will be despised by this whole aching planet for all eternity.

Posted by: Simon | Mar 1 2024 15:08 utc | 213

This is so disturbing. There really isn’t any difference between Zionist and Nazis. The comparison can no longer be thought of as mere hyperbole. It is like a scene straight out of Schindler’s List.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 1 2024 15:25 utc | 214

Clever Dog@210….what is happening in Palestine has played out world wide put on by the same Production Company….they excell at killing women and children, sport for them. That such evil, outright utterly disgusting evil shares our biosphere….some members of our species need to go the way of the dinosaurs, dead, deader, deadist. Six fucking feet under!
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 1 2024 15:31 utc | 215

There really isn’t any difference between Zionist and Nazis. The comparison can no longer be thought of as mere hyperbole. It is like a scene straight out of Schindler’s List.
Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 1 2024 15:25 utc | 214
There never was any hyperbole. Jews meticulously saved the important nazis into their pet countries when Germany fell.

Posted by: Michael A | Mar 1 2024 15:42 utc | 216

Posted by: liveload | Mar 1 2024 7:11 utc | 161
So powerful. Thanks for sharing it. I have saved it. Best of thread.

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Mar 1 2024 15:44 utc | 217

Seen a few posts, “all you guys ever talk about is more death” (paraphrased for poetic licence) those posters while shocked by the magnitude of death in Free Palestine have never lived it day after day, it’s easy to sit in comfort never having physically been in that position.
I was on a school bus, on the school grounds and a mob smashed every window out of our bus, three buses for the record, dozens of us cut and covered in glass….PTSD, what’s that. Try delivering food to those being starved and then being targeted by a gunman, try being shot at in real time, give it go…we can return to that PTSD thing, thank God for alcohol you can drown a lot of misery in yer head when you are 12.
Freedom comes at a price, well really, are serfs ever free?
Cheers M
I says a prayer ever day for the Palestinians and those that lay their lives on the line for the Palestinian version of freedom.
There are parts of Palestine where the colonizers fear to go, can’t go, death awaits them. That’s Free Palestine. We need more references to Free Palestine, from the River to the Sea…..caught an Irish fella doing a blues tune, Free Palestine, from the River to the Sea. Free Palestine, from the River to the Sea…..Free Palestine.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 1 2024 15:53 utc | 218

When killing rats it always helps to place a little cheese in the trap…SNAP!!!
Posted by: Yaron Brook | Mar 1 2024 13:23 utc | 201
Thanks for the tip. Sure someone will find it handy once the second Jewish Holocaust rolls around.
History always repeats.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 1 2024 16:13 utc | 219

As this was going on.
“At least 112 people were killed and more than 750 others wounded on Thursday as the Israeli forces opened fire on Palestinians who had surrounded a convoy of 38 aid trucks in Gaza, with the Palestinian health ministry calling the incident a “massacre.””
The US POTUS Joe Biden came out and said that the possible ceasefire that looked likely, now looks very unlikely to happen.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 1 2024 16:24 utc | 220

Do “genocide” & “extermination” mean the same thing, or is there a subtle difference?
@ Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 29 2024 18:04 utc | 32

Interesting question, with some obvious answers. People who professionally trap and poison rodents and insects call themselves “exterminators” in the Yellow Pages, while the professionals attending the extermination of humans have no need for similar advertisements.
“Genocide” was coined much later, by Raphael Lemkin, to describe the systematic massacre of select peoples in Europe, in the 40’s. It is supposed to be a generic term, applicable to whomever commits similar atrocities, but it is a term (along with “holocaust”) which has often been claimed as exclusive property of the Jewish victims of Hitler (especially inapplicable in retrospect to indigenous extermination campaigns). In A Little Matter of Genocide, Ward Churchill treats this misconception at some length, calling it “holocaust exceptionalism.”

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 1 2024 16:30 utc | 221

https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/58/1262/518653/War-on-Gaza/War-on-Gaza/Moscow-meeting-ends-with-Palestinian-factions-comm.aspx
Hamas and all the Palestinian factions accept an OLP-led representation for negociations.

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 1 2024 16:40 utc | 222

We should start ostracizing the politicians justifying this as the occupation forces “right to self defense”.
Refuse to sell them anything , to talk to them , to interact and if you still can : add a condition of hostility cessation to the payment of your taxes.
They earned the ostracon , let them live with it …

Posted by: Savonarole | Mar 1 2024 16:41 utc | 223

Aleph_Null@221….does it not boil down to semantics? Philosophical differences make for great debate and culling of time, like Daleks exterminated, Daleks genocided….judged on on the action, do the dead get a say?
Cheers M
….no different than debating the different ‘isms’ …judged on what they say, hours of banter…..on their actions, black and white….the dead never get a say, unless someone still living makes that statement for them.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 1 2024 16:48 utc | 224

ZH has a posting up about the US veto of the latest UNSC vote and there is this sick quote in the article

Israel says the vast majority of the deaths were not the result of IDF soldiers firing, and there are claims that the Israelis only sought to fire at civilians’ legs.[my bold]

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 1 2024 16:51 utc | 225

sorry, an HTML problem because I hit “post” instead of “edit”

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 1 2024 17:02 utc | 227

An overview of the political situation in Britain, where the government and the alleged “opposition” Party both fanatically support the Zionists, and are all too keen to ban public dissent as “anti-semitic”….
subtitled
** Under cover of fear for MPs’ safety, Labour leader Keir Starmer has helped the ruling Tories paint as villains anyone opposed to Israel’s slaughter of children **
The mask has slipped — those who rule can no longer be bothered to maintain the false charade of UK “democracy”. Not only on this but on anything else as well.
No wonder the rotten MPs have been awarding themselves armed guards — at public expense, they protect themselves from the public, but who protects the public from them?

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 1 2024 17:11 utc | 228

Posted by: scepticalSOB | Mar 1 2024 11:13 utc | 185
I woke up this morning to find that George Galloway was the new MP for Rochdale which is about 2 miles from where I was born and went to school.
I have particularly liked George Galloway for over 20 years, when he was summoned to Washington, accused of corruption re the war in Iraq. The Americans had never seen anything like it, as George stood on the witness stand, as he not only defended himself with facts he could substantiate, but tore into them, about the facts he knew the Americans were doing in Iraq – leaving their mouths wide open – speechless.
His acceptance speech in Rochdale is well worth watching. “This is for Gaza”
I note the Isr@eli’s dirty piece of propaganda on the disgusting BBC, portraying the Palestinians looking like Ants as they slaughter them trying to get food that Israyhell has provided as bait.
Isrehell is sowing the seeds of its own destruction.
I know about Ants. You do not mess with Ants, or you are liable to get eaten alive.
Despite the propanganda from all the media and both the Labour and Tory parties, the vast majority of people in England do not approve of mass slaughter, and for once their democratic views have been realised.

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Mar 1 2024 17:14 utc | 229

Jews in US need to think through how this is on their heads. Support AIPAC and this is what happens. After it all goes super sideways, they are going to be left holding the bag. Visibly. To everyone. That will not play well.
It is in their power to stop this by shutting down the Israeli lobby. Overturn the tables.

Posted by: oracle | Mar 1 2024 17:23 utc | 230

It is in their power to stop this by shutting down the Israeli lobby. Overturn the tables.
Posted by: oracle | Mar 1 2024 17:23 utc | 232

Stop dreaming.
They’ll softtalk their way out.
( that is at the core of todays vagaries:
The Jewish philosophic path of developing contrived ways on why something forbidden is actually allowed and the overbearing agressivenes of the AngloSaxon culture. == US society )

Posted by: MAKK | Mar 1 2024 17:51 utc | 231

I enjoy reading the RevengePorn fantasies from MOAners while I drink some morning coffee and celebrate ANOTHER IDF victory over the Palestainians!

Posted by: Yaron B | Mar 1 2024 17:57 utc | 232

Usury by Christians was forbidden by Catholic Church, but Jews were permitted to act as moneylenders and bankers. That enabled some Jews to amass tremendous wealth, but also earned them enmity,[2] which added to the increasing antisemitic sentiments of the time, due to widespread indebtedness and financial ruin among the Gentile population.
X Usury was outlawed in every form.
X Debtors of Jews were no longer liable for certain debts.
X Jews were not allowed to live outside certain cities and towns.
X Any Jew above the age of seven had to wear a yellow badge of felt in the form of Two Tables Joined on his or her outer clothing, six inches by three inches.
X All Jews from the age of 12 on had to pay a special tax of three pence annually.
X Christians were forbidden to live among Jews.
X Jews were licensed to buy farmland to make their living for the next 15 years.
X Jews could thenceforth make a living in England only as merchants, farmers, craftsmen or soldiers.
The provisions applied to both men and women. The license to buy land was included so that farming, along with trading, could give Jews an opportunity to earn a living with the abolition of usury. Unfortunately, other provisions along with widespread prejudice made this difficult for many.[4][5]
After fifteen years had passed, it was discovered that Jews widely but secretly continued to practice usury, leading Edward I to issue the Edict of Expulsion in 1290.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_the_Jewry

Posted by: phenon | Mar 1 2024 18:10 utc | 233

“and celebrate ANOTHER IDF victory over the Palestainians!”
Yaron B (234)
Celebrating genocide, I’m sure the WWII Nazi’s felt the same way with Jews in mind, both are/were war crimes against humanity.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 1 2024 18:11 utc | 234

Just in case others haven’t noticed yet, there are new/recent posts in the Honorable Aaron Bushnell’s thread.

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Mar 1 2024 18:11 utc | 235

The “Israel” entity, a naZionist project of illegal occupation, Apartheid, ethnic cleansing, and genocide, is no longer comparable to nazi Hitler’s regime. It’s worse! At least the Nazis delivered food and water in concentration camps. Anyone today still supporting the naZionist entity of “Israel” deserves the same fate as Mussolini and Hitler.
That the Arab states, and Turks, and Persians, are all allowing this to happen without moving a single finger to stop it, not even a slight threat to form a military coallition to defend the 1967 artificial borders (that violated Palestinian humans rights even more than the 1947 fictional borders drowned by the initial naZionists), is beyond my comprehension.
Maybe it’s time for a wave of revolutions in those states near and around Mesopotamia.
And in the West, it’s not time for elections. You can’t change the Hitler regime with elections. Stop cooking yourselves. It’s time for a wave of operations “Valkyria”, but hopefully successful.
Yes, I’m supporting bomb attacks against the leaders of the western genocidal empire. Because I’m a good person. And because I think that monsters should die, in order for humans to live. Not just non western humans, but also humans like Snowdon, Assange, and Aaron…
I want to see the Pentagon, Langley, the Congress, the White House, and WallStreet and NATO’s and EU’s headquarters burning to the ground.
There can be no peace nor decency in the world before this happens. The monsters won’t let it.
PS: never forget that the “pro-peace”, “pro-democracy”, “pro-sovereignty”, and “pro-human rights” in the UkraNazi entity all support the naZionist entity and its actions. This is the western genocidal empire’s one and only ideology. And if you don’t agree with it, you’re labeled by the propaganda machine as a “traitor”, a “Putinist”, or a “terrorist”. We are now living in a full “1984” Orwellian regime. What are we, westerners, going to do about it? Be like the Germans that did nothing against Hitler, or do something?

Posted by: Carlos Marques | Mar 1 2024 18:41 utc | 236

oracle
this is a must see
https://odysee.com/@SaltCubeAnalytics:a/jewish-nationality-is-an-absurdity:1

Posted by: Tom3 | Mar 1 2024 18:48 utc | 237

*** That the Arab states, and Turks, and Persians, are all allowing this to happen without moving a single finger to stop it, not even a slight threat to form a military coallition to defend the 1967 artificial borders (that violated Palestinian humans rights even more than the 1947 fictional borders drowned by the initial naZionists), is beyond my comprehension.***
Unlike the rest listed, the Persians (Iranians) don’t want to give US/NATO an easy propaganda excuse to *overtly* commence a military war with Iran and Lebanon … or to officially go into Gaza and the West Bank on the side of the Zionist regime.
There are also considerations pertaining to Syria and Iranian borders with the former USSR states. And where Gaza/West Bank is concerned, if the Iranians do (as is claimed) help Hezbollah and the Houthis, they are certainly not just “allowing this to happen”.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 1 2024 18:55 utc | 238

Fascinating conversation about the current state of affairs in the ME.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foPL6f-7UQc
Especially interesting commentary from Anas Altikriti starting @ 46:00 mark about the situation w/respect to arab states’ lack of forceful response to the on-going genocide in Gaza. Boiled down to the barest of bones, several of the major Arab states are home to what he describes as mega US military bases, housing tens of thousands of U.S. military personnel, guns, jets and the ammo that goes with them. They have no natural resources other than the oil under their feet. And that, he says, is just a “coincidence of geography”, it’s all they have. They have no agriculture or productive industries to speak of. For their material needs they depend to a considerable extent (almost entirely) on imports from abroad. For this reason, collectively they will not risk crossing swords, or doing something that “displeases the U.S.”, because these imports (what he calls the “essential elements of everyday life”) can easily be disrupted/embargoed/sanctioned etc.
As for normalization with the zionist entity, I cannot imagine how any arab nation would now be willing or even consider normalizing relations after the massacre that happened in Gaza yesterday. But that’s just me.

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Mar 1 2024 18:56 utc | 239

Posted by: oracle | Mar 1 2024 17:23 utc | 232
Well said oracle. I think the tables are turning in the USA as more people realize their murderous government is controlled by rich Jews. The good Jews in the USA better take down the AIPAC lobby soon or a wave of antisemitism will crest and all Jews will be greatly humbled.

Posted by: Chas | Mar 1 2024 18:58 utc | 240

Carlos Marques | Mar 1 2024 18:41 utc | 238
***the Arab states … allowing this to happen***
Unfair to the Algerians who try to help but are limited in what they can do by geography, and the Yemenis who have actually declared war and fight. Libya is still too NATO-smashed to do anything, and Iraqi militias add their bit. True about other Arab states, though.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 1 2024 19:09 utc | 241

When killing rats it always helps to place a little cheese in the trap…SNAP!!!
Posted by: Yaron Brook | Mar 1 2024 13:23 utc | 203
Let your comment and those of your ilk be a record of your pure evil and anchor keeping you in the darkness forever away from the Light at the Very End.

Posted by: Stonedar | Mar 1 2024 19:12 utc | 242

Back to the Source of Zionist Power [today] Electronic Intifada
John Mearsheimer: How powerful is the Israel lobby?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPJtLY7KsJo
The Lobby controls Congress, Universities, Media
This is a tough nut to crack …

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 1 2024 19:18 utc | 243

‘ A former deputy head of the Shin Bet security service reportedly told a political gathering that MK Betzalel Smotrich, the head of the National Union party, was a “Jewish terrorist,” who planned to blow up cars on a major highway during the 2005 Gaza disengagement.
Yitzhak Ilan, who is running on the Blue and White list, told a gathering of party activists that he personally interrogated Smotrich, who was arrested in the run up to the Gaza evacuation, Channel 13 reported Sunday. In 2005.
Posted by: Giyane | Mar 1 2024 14:38 utc | 211
Yes. A very nasty piece of work. Ta for response.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 1 2024 19:35 utc | 244

Carlos Marques | Mar 1 2024 18:41 utc | 238
I get it.
The US, UK, Germany and France are actively engaged in naval military operations or troops against the Palestinians, sell weapons to Israel and politicians swear unwavering loyalty to Israel on a daily basis. Their citizens are swearing daily reciting Mesianic Biblical prophecy as a reason for their great love of Israel. But this genocide is entirely the fault of these Brown, Muslim Fu$kers.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Mar 1 2024 19:36 utc | 245

I watched some of the first hand videos of the latest IDF Gaza massacre. Pretty strong stuff, there is one that showed what was left of a civilian after the IDF ran him over with a tank.
Just look up Syrian Girl on X. Warning – not for the feint of heart.
Also, several showed victims being taken away and none of their injuries looked like the kind you would get from a stampede (crushed limbs.) one guy clearly had a bullet hole in his chest, consistent with a gunshot would.
The lying IDF have no shame.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 1 2024 19:57 utc | 246

@ Posted by: OldFart | Mar 1 2024 15:06 utc | 214
And to quite a few itenerants who have landed in the bar.
NO. JUST NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ..
Not JEWS.
Just ZIONISTS.
ZIONISTS ZIONIST ZIONISTS..
Nazis the same as the ones pumping Ukrops. The very same.
They call themselves all sorts of nationalists and religions but they are the Zionists
The Zionazis.
Biden , Trump, Sunak, Starmer. Macron, Shultz, Meloni – every single fucker and everyone in their government across the whole of the 5 eyes.
Anyone who supports the existence of the illegal Apartheid Entity is a Zionist.
Tell them. Call them that. It’s only them. Not Semitic judaism.
Got it?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 1 2024 20:14 utc | 247

@ Observer
Germany and all western states are controlled by zionists
either directly in their parliaments or via soft US power
Germany is not acting by will of the people
the true will of the people cannot be realized if they do not have information
majority of the ‘story’ that is the holocaust was created by Zionists and no physical evidence exists for the heinous acts. Only a zionist could craft the story of the holocaust, and they are using that same fiction writing strategy to justify what they are doing to Palestinians. baby decapitation, only a zionist could think that up.
That is zionist projection, all of it, Zionist accuse others of what they do or what they wish to do period.
TB and and starvation killed majority of jews in WWII. Starvation caused by allied bombing campaigns on supply lines.

Posted by: Earl Jones | Mar 1 2024 20:15 utc | 248

Earl Jones | Mar 1 2024 20:15 utc | 250
You may be unaware of it but what you are doing is to reproduce neo-nazi propaganda.
The “Holocaust” inthe sense of a deliberate campaign of extermination aimed at Communists, Socialists, Trae Unionists, Gypsies, Jews, Blacks and others, including autistic childrenm mentally sick patients, homosexuals and all manner of individuals the various Security police forces wanted to remove undoubtedly took place. Estimates of the number of dead as being in excess of ten millions are realistic.
As to the Zionists their approval of the effect of the persecution of Jews- it drove them to Palestine- and the sordid bargains they made to trade the deaths of Jews for the rescuing of Zionists, are all well known and well documented.
The interest of Zionists in the Holocaust- which they have turned into a childish parody of the actual events- is strictly post facto.
It is one thing, like Norman Finklestein to criticise the Holocaust Industry. That is both worthwhile and necessary. But to deny the crimes carried out by the Third Reichj and its large numbers of allies, including Ukrainians, Rumanians, Lithuanians, Estonians and Latvians (the list is very long) is to place yourself in the ranks of humanity’s enemies.
Clever Dog | Mar 1 2024 14:55 utc | 212

Posted by: bevin | Mar 1 2024 20:35 utc | 249

Nicaragua filed a IJC case against Germany for supplying weapons to israel for genocide.

Posted by: Hankster | Mar 1 2024 20:51 utc | 250

Posted by: Clever Dog | Mar 1 2024 14:55 utc | 212
@ Posted by: canuck | Mar 1 2024 13:48 utc | 206
Who Cromwell answered to: (Not from Wikipedia)
https://www.henrymakow.com/illuminatibankersorganizedtheenglish.html

16th June, 1647.
From O.C. (i.e. Oliver Cromwell), by Ebenezer Pratt.
In return for financial support will advocate admission of Jews to England: This however impossible while Charles living.
Charles cannot be executed without trial, adequate grounds for which do not at present exist.
Therefore advise that Charles be assassinated, but will have nothing to do with arrangements for procuring an assassin, though willing to help in his escape.

In reply was dispatched the following:-
12th July, 1647.
To O.C. by E. Pratt.
Will grant financial aid as soon as Charles removed and Jews admitted. Assassination too dangerous. Charles shall be given opportunity to escape: His recapture will make trial and execution possible. The support will be liberal, but useless to discuss terms until trial commences.”

……
According to Disraeli, “The plan was arranged on May 30th at a secret meeting held at Cromwell’s house, though later Cromwell pretending that it was without his concurrence.”
This move coincided with a sudden development in the army; the rise of the ‘Levelers” and “Rationalists.”
Their doctrines were those of the French revolutionaries; in fact, what we know today as Communism. These were the regicides, who four times “purged” Parliament, till there was left finally 50 members, Communist-like themselves, known later as the Rump.
THE EXECUTION OF CHARLES I …….
“Contemporary historians have decided that the King from the day of his deportation from Holmby to his escape to the Isle of Wight was throughout the dupe of Cromwell.”
Little more remains to be said. Cromwell had carried out the orders from the Synagogue, and now it only remained to stage the mock trial.
Maneuvering for position continued for some time. And it became apparent that the House of Commons, even in their partially “purged” condition, were in favour of coming to an agreement with the King. On 5th December, 1648, the House sat all night; and finally carried the question, “That the King’s concessions were satisfactory to a settlement.”
Should such agreement have been reached, of course, Cromwell would not have received the large sums of money which he was hoping to get from the Jews He struck again. On the night of December 6th, Colonel Pryde, on his instructions, carried out the last and most famous “purge” of the House of Commons, known as “Pryde’s Purge.” On 4th January, the Communist remnant of 50 members, the Rump, invested themselves with “the supreme authority.”
On 9th January “a High Court of Justice” to try the King was proclaimed. Two-thirds of its members were Levelers from the Army.
Algernon Sidney warned Cromwell: “First, the King can be tried by no court. Second, no man can be tried by this court.” So writes Hugh Ross Williamson in his Charles and Cromwell; and he adds a finishing touch to the effect that “no English lawyer could be found to draw up the charge, which was eventually entrusted to an accommodating alien, Isaac Dorislaus.”
Needless to say, Isaac Dorislaus was exactly the same sort of alien as Carvajal and Manasseh Ben Israel and the other financiers who paid the “Protector” his blood money.
THE TRUE NATURE OF REVOLUTION
The Jews were once again permitted to land freely in England in spite of strong protests by the sub-committee of the Council of State, which declared that they would be a grave menace to the State and the Christian religion.
Perhaps it is due to their protests that the actual act of banishment has never to this day been repealed.
“The English Revolution under Charles I,” writes Isaac Disraeli, “was unlike any preceding one … From that time and event we contemplate in our history the phases of revolution.”
There were many more to follow on similar lines, notably in France.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 1 2024 21:29 utc | 251

An interesting article-“Against Solutionism” by Ed McNally at the New Left Review.
“…If the Palestinians cannot be ignored entirely, as in the Abraham Accords framework, better to push for a demilitarized, segmented Palestinian quasi-‘state’ so that Israeli normalization can proceed apace. Biden, personally and politically minutes to midnight, is desperate to put Jared Kushner’s agenda for the Middle East back on track after its derailing on 7 October…”
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/against-solutionism?pc=1582
re the latest outbreak of “Jews Done It!” disease. This drivel, from Henry Makow, has the advantage of mentioning, what racist anti-English Fianna Fail enthusiasts never mention, which was that there was considerable opposition to the campaign against Ireland within the Leveller ranks of the New Model Army.
It was also true that, just as in the Famine, among the most fervent supporters of the government were Irish aristocrats and businessmen. The Gombeen man has been around for ages.
What Colonel Rainsborough remarked in Putney was equally applicable to Ireland:
“..” …for really I thinke that the poorest hee that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest hee; and therefore truly, Sir, I thinke itt’s cleare, that every man that is to live under a Governement ought first by his owne consent to putt himself under that Governement; and I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put Himself under.”

Posted by: bevin | Mar 1 2024 22:06 utc | 252

https://www.answercoalition.org/rafah_protest
tommorrow. world wide. find a protest near you to attend. scroll down to see all the locations thus far.

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Mar 1 2024 22:07 utc | 253

Clever Dog
Genocide is removal of ethnic group, even if that is just an eviction
I didn’t deny that, that is exactly what the Germans were doing
What is nearly complete BS is the horrific acts that many supposed ‘survivors’ claimed to have witness. Their accounts dont line up, there was no electrified electrocution floors
there was no masterbation death machines
Zyclon B was used for delousing becuase SO MANY people were dying of TB
The Holocaust story does not exist without gas chambers, gas chambers is what is debated. The fact they need laws to enforce historical events only proves its lack of support.
The excuse for this is that genocide will happen again if people can doubt the holocaust story.
AS WE CAN CLEARLY FUKKIN SEE thats a load of BS

Posted by: Earl Jones | Mar 1 2024 22:08 utc | 254

Following the historic victory of George Galloway in the Rochdale by election, the following statement was issued today by Paul Cannon, General Secretary of the Workers’ Party of Britain:
. A GREAT HISTORIC VICTORY
Our party leader is once again victorious! George Galloway MP for Rochdale, Amen.
We send a huge thank you to all those who helped, either on the streets or with a donation to our fundraiser.
The party has fulfilled its internationalist duty to the Palestinian people with a great protest against the genocide.
It is staggering, yet unsurprising, that the media criticise us for running a campaign against genocide in Palestine. What they really cannot stand is that workers, many of whom are living in poverty, can see beyond their immediate material concerns and be mobilised, organised and vote for a candidate and party standing against imperialist slaughter. This is a powerful victory for George, Palestine, the WPB, the Left and, in fact, the Nation.

Posted by: Engineer-John | Mar 1 2024 22:12 utc | 255

So happy for George Galloway and his people, so thanks to those who brought the news here. Tides do turn!
Suggestion for your protest sign, friends of Palestine: You know what else died in Gaza? The myth of Western Humanity and Justice.
——-
Genocide is removal of ethnic group, even if that is just an eviction
I didn’t deny that, that is exactly what the Germans were doing …
The Holocaust story does not exist without gas chambers, gas chambers is what is debated. The fact they need laws to enforce historical events only proves its lack of support.
The excuse for this is that genocide will happen again if people can doubt the holocaust story.
AS WE CAN CLEARLY FUKKIN SEE thats a load of BS
Posted by: Earl Jones | Mar 1 2024 22:08 utc | 256
Thank you Earl Jones for providing clarity in your last post. Couldn’t agree more. The unaware need to learn that the false claims part of the story are indeed an industry made to fool and confuse and tame the unaware into obedience.

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Mar 1 2024 22:33 utc | 256

Posted by: bevin | Mar 1 2024 22:06 utc | 254
“..” …for really I thinke that the poorest hee that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest hee; and therefore truly, Sir, I thinke itt’s cleare, that every man that is to live under a Governement ought first by his owne consent to putt himself under that Governement; and I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put Himself under.”

What is it about the people back then that none of them could spell properly?

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 1 2024 22:33 utc | 257

Posted by: Earl Jones | Mar 1 2024 22:08 utc | 256
https://nukebook.org/

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 1 2024 22:35 utc | 258

Gaza Death rate of 100/(2100000/30000) 1 in 70 people 1.42% of prewar population in 5 months since October
World war II 6*12=72 months
so WWII was 14 times as long
So at current death rate over 6 years would be current rate 1.42*14 = 20.6 percent dead
Higher than any country lost in WWII over whole war including:
UK 0.8 %
China 3.5 %
France 1.9
USSR 14.2 %
Poland 17.2%
USA 0.3 %
Japan 1.8%

Posted by: phenon | Mar 1 2024 23:50 utc | 259

Zyclon B was used for delousing becuase SO MANY people were dying of TB
Posted by: Earl Jones | Mar 1 2024 22:08 utc | 256
_____
Lice and TB have nothing to do with each other.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 1 2024 23:55 utc | 260

Scorpion | Mar 1 2024 21:29 utc | 253 …
As an account of the reasons and motivations for the Civil Wars, that was basically crap.
Jewish money-lenders abroad certainly profited, and no doubt exploited the more moronic parts of the “roundhead” compendium of religion to their own cultist advantage — but that’s all.
The Stewart dynasty, in Scotland or the UK, were bloody stupid to such an extent that it must have been a genetic fault.
However, Charles I was correct in his proposed “ship” tax which triggered the war (trying to change a ridiculous situation whereby seaports effectively paid for the Navy, while inland merchants profited free of charge from its protection of imports and exports).
Parliament at the time was corrupt, incompetent and self-serving — as bad as the later parliament that Cromwell (correctly) compared most unfavourably to his horse, and slung out at gunpoint.
Charles I suffered from idiotic advisers, for which his Queen was partly to blame since she put the knife in against anyone who was not a sycophant (hence wartime ignoring of sensible advice from the King’s continental nephew Prince Rupert).
Note that the subsequently “restored” Charles II (horrible compared to his father) did *not* re-expel the foreign financiers.
Nor did his successor James II, who (despite Establishment propaganda to the contrary and overthrowing in favour of William of Orange) does seem to have been a better character than his brother.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 2 2024 0:09 utc | 261

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 2 2024 0:09 utc | 263
So I take you believe that the excerpted letters discussing a plot to first let the King escape and then try him for treason are fake?
Possibly so. But if they are not, then it’s pretty damning evidence.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 2 2024 0:18 utc | 262

So the death rate per month in Gaza is horrific worse than any death rate of Any country in World War II

Posted by: phenon | Mar 2 2024 0:34 utc | 263

Scorpion | Mar 2 2024 0:18 utc | 264
*** So I take you believe that the excerpted letters discussing a plot to first let the King escape and then try him for treason are fake? ***
Serious doubts about the authenticity of these extracts.
Use of the descriptive “communist”?
Had he not escaped, it was quite possible a non-war solution could be negotiated.
But the King’s advisers had convinced him he was above the law.
which the King himself already imagined in a vaguer sort of way
Which he wasn’t.
(think back to Edward I centuries earlier — he actually lost some cases)
So when Charles I skipped detention and tried to re-start the Civil Wars, hardly surprising that it was regarded as treachery.
*** Possibly so. But if they are not, then it’s pretty damning evidence.***
As anti-Cromwell propaganda, if genuine yes it would be (why Cromwell? he was lower in military rank than Fairfax to begin with)– but otherwise no surprise, since with both sides in the War quite short of funds the ever-opportunist financial vampires and vultures would be hovering around anyway.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 2 2024 0:47 utc | 264

: DuchessAndBob | Mar 1 2024 22:33 utc | 258
You and Engineer John understand the matter. So, I am sure do the people of Palestine. These Lancashire cotton towns are the places where workers refused to support the South in the Civil War even though it meant losing the cotton supply vital for their employment. Living in poverty themselves they had the courage to reject slavery for others.*
It is estimated that as many as sixty seats are likely to be contested by Galloway endorsed pro-Palestine candidates, intent, even if they fail to find a place to speak for Justice in the House of Commons, to punish the Labour Party-under Zionist management- for its support of genocide.
The Establishment parties believe that they can defeat this movement by racist campaigns to smear Palestinian Freedom supporters as Islamic terrorists. They will fail. As I posted earlier it may well be that the SNP will emerge as the largest party after the coming General Election.
Politicians are learning, slowly, that as the Primary vote in Michigan showed and as Rochdale shows we live in a society in which ordinary people draw the line at baby killing daily for months. And they are ashamed to be governed by those who do not and are happy to supply the bombs dropped on maternity wards and orphanages.
*”…Frederick Douglass drew himself up to his height of just over 6 feet, looked out over the packed audience of over 1,000 – mostly millworkers – and vociferously and eloquently described his life as a slave in the United States of America. It was October 10th, 1846, and Douglass had just been warmly introduced by John Bright, a British Member of Parliament. Even at a young age, Bright had already emerged as one of the most powerful speakers in Britain against slavery. There was a sold-out house in the Public Room on Baillie Street in Rochdale, Lancashire, England.
“Douglass used his time to educate the engaged Rochdale audience about his life as a slave and slavery itself in the United States. Douglass spoke at the Public Hall in Rochdale in 1846, five times between October 10 and 14, and twice more on November 10 and 11. On October 12, Douglass returned to Manchester to speak to 4,000 people at the Free Trade Hall, and then returned to Rochdale.
“Frederick Douglass was 28-years-old and had just published his first book: ”Narrative of the life of Frederick Douglass, An American Slave.” Because the book was an instant best seller in the U.S., and because the press identified the public places where Douglass spoke, Douglass was at grave risk of immediate arrest as a fugitive slave…”

Posted by: bevin | Mar 2 2024 0:57 utc | 265

Israel is burning up whatever soft power it ever had, and only revulsion remains in its wake – no use to flutter your hands and cry ‘but we are a peaceful people!!’ This is true for the hundreds of thousands of Jews who live outside Israel as well. People see what is happening, and are sickened – at some point you become who you are, no matter how you protest that you do not share those values. The media is quick enough to label all Russians who will not cast out Putin as savages and barbarians, and nobody demurs. Well, Netanyahu remains in power, and every day he lives is a black mark against Israel and a little further withdrawal from the Jews and their banker supporters.

Posted by: Mark | Mar 2 2024 1:31 utc | 266

Just sayin’.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/big-round-of-applause-to-germany–fires-at-us-drone-twice–f
Hahn who serves as the defense policy spokesperson for the Union faction in the Bundestag, stated that his department only recently became aware, upon inquiry, that a portion of the ammunition needed for the frigate “Hessen” is no longer available for procurement.
“We have now only learned upon inquiry that apparently, a portion of the ammunition for the frigate ‘Hessen’ is no longer procurable because the corresponding industrial capacity no longer exists,” Hahn told Die Welt.
“If the stocks are empty, the Navy cannot replenish them – and must withdraw the frigate,” he added.

Posted by: Patrick al-Henrygazh | Mar 2 2024 1:48 utc | 267

Just plain dumb or a thick hide?
Al-Monitor
@AlMonitor
UN accuses Sudan’s RSF of rape, ethnic killings as Hemedti courts region, ⁦@amberinzaman
⁩ reports
https://twitter.com/AlMonitor/status/1763638977909633174

Posted by: Menz | Mar 2 2024 1:56 utc | 268

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 2 2024 0:47 utc | 266
Serious doubts about the authenticity of these extracts.
Use of the descriptive “communist”?

From the point of the view of this article: communism was a freemason-secret society offspring, a subversive ideology trotted out to effect takeover of nation states. England was the first developed Western country to have the monarchy overthrown and banking houses assume leadership over the State. (I don’t know Dutch history but maybe it happened there first but isn’t regarded as such an important power?) Again, from the POV if this perspective, first England, then France, then Russia were overthrown by these secret society spawned subversive movements. Of course, it wasn’t called communism back in the 1600’s but the agenda was the same: overthrow the existing order in the name of the common man and then control the levers of power, usually from the shadows. Plus the story about Cromwell working to get the Jews permission to return to England is common knowledge.
The subversives have been successful for centuries now, which is why probably the extremely stupid leaders we see are not actually in charge, making the destruction of the West both deliberate and intelligently prosecuted. These networks have experience with multi-generational operations able to weather setbacks and still hold their course.
So: are the Polycentrists truly standing in opposition to these dark networks which have dominated the West for so long? Or are they part of a grand, globalist subterfuge to reshuffle the order of precedence once their Reset has been effected?
What do you think?

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 2 2024 1:59 utc | 269

Scorpion | Mar 2 2024 1:59 utc | 271
***.. the agenda was the same: overthrow the existing order in the name of the common man ***
And just why should the “common man” — unless addicted to forelock-tugging servility — be forever the supposed inferior of those who gained power, land and wealth through violent criminality and ruthless exploitation, or the inheritors of such elevated status?
Perhaps religiously acceptable to a caste-system brainwashed Hindu, but surely not to anyone else with reasonable intelligence…
That said, consider a verse in the propagandist-devised hymn “All Things Bright and Beautiful”….. a latter day reiteration of the earlier “god let so-and so be rich, and therefore so-and-so must be good” tripe, with the attendant (even if unsaid) implication that the non-rich must therefore be un-virtuous, undeserving and bad.
So, back to the King and his aristocrats. By application of the same logic, a Mafia chief must *deserve* to be very rich … oligarchs such as Soros and Gates must *deserve* to rule everyone, everywhere … Joe Biden must be virtuous … and the present soap-show pimping themselves as a UK “royal” family must be deserving of unquestioning deference and simpering adulation.
All, of course allegedly entitled to be “above the law”.
(much of which they or their apparatchiks concocted anyway)
*** and then control the levers of power, usually from the shadows. ***
Well, there’s the interesting bit — those who rule … the big financiers, corporate chiefs, Political Establishment monarchy / aristocracy / oligarchy … are all on the same side. Whether from the shadows or overtly — they rule.
And they are utterly, self-selectingly rotten.
But, according to your criteria of who should rule — they cannot and should not be deposed.*
PS:– don’t anybody argue that “god (allegedly) says” justifies it either … for demolition of that ridiculous claim (as if historically one ‘anointed’ king bashing in the head of another ‘anointed’ king didn’t already do it) look at various Popes and the present Archbishop of Canterbury….
* but do note that under the ancient constitution of Scotland, if the King was bad or treacherous it was deemed to be a public duty to get rid of him.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 2 2024 2:48 utc | 270

Scorpion | Mar 2 2024 1:59 utc | 271
“..England was the first developed Western country.to have the monarchy overthrown and banking houses assume leadership over the State.”
This is an anachronism. What on earth does the word “developed” mean here? Does it mean large as opposed to the Italian City States in which overthrowing monarchs and empowering bankrers and other merchants (most bankers were goldsmiths or traders.)
“(I don’t know Dutch history but maybe it happened there first but isn’t regarded as such an important power?)” It certainly did happen in The United Provinces which was in most respects the leading European state in the first half of the C17th. Far more influential than England and a dominant force in trade
” Again, from the POV if this perspective, first England, then France, then Russia were overthrown by these secret society spawned subversive movements.”
This is EA Poe style stuff. There were no secret societies involved in any of these revolutions. What there was, and always is when the populace revolts, is an excuse for the objects of their ire to absolve them of the charges of greed, incompetence, callousness, injustice and corruption which are always cited by the revolutionaries as causes of revolution. And rightly so.
Louis XVI’s government was bad and incapable of reforming itself or France- even the most conventional observers such as Arthur Young-were agreed on that. The Revolution was inevitable its causes widely telegraphed and understood by all.
But reactionaries could not stomach the idea that the opponents of Kings or hierarchies can be rational. Hence the need to invent conspiracies of ‘evil minded’ men inspired no doubt by Satan, and allied with other dark forces, like the Jews or the Moors. It is all ABC – Anything But Class- analysis. Like those analyses of the oligarchies which rule us- analyses which always deny any link between the oligsrchs socio-economic positions and theirnpolitical powerr. Why? Because it smacks of Marx and Class. Far better to invent conspiracies bssed not on the common interests of participants in the economy but on vague religious, ethnic or behavioural affinities.
The truth is there, it is obvious enough, it dances around in front of our eyes, it takes no particular skill, training or experience to recognise it. Perhaps that is the appeal of conspiracies, secret societies and so on: it requires the most arcane thinking to see them despite what is obvious. One has to be well versed in the weird ins and outs of the craft of discerning secret things, mysterious anonymous sactors and complicated motives. The realisation that everything is carried out by secret societies of which nothing is known is reserved for members of the most secret of all societies-the ultimately illuminated, those who can see what nobody else can.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 2 2024 3:07 utc | 271

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 2 2024 2:48 utc | 272

But, according to your criteria of who should rule — they cannot and should not be deposed.*

1. Your characterizations, without any citation, of my position on class, monarchy etc. lacks nuance and isn’t well articulated. Also wrong.
2. You obviously missed my post a few days ago arguing that the British monarchy should renounce all properties, the stone of Scone, the Crown etc. in return for…(can you guess?)
3. During the 1600-1850’s the merchant and finance classes displaced the old feudal order. True, some held onto family properties and fortunes but for every family that did, one hundred or more did not. And don’t forget they also sacrificed their sons in the wars largely pushed by the financial class rulers and their love of making money out of death and plunder. But they were not and are not all the same, sorry.
There is nothing essentially wrong with commoners taking over, however as soon as they do so, they become the ruling class and, if they are to do any good, need a few generations to learn the ropes especially after such a huge sea-change in society. Or do you believe in states without class, with all being equal, no leadership necessary, aka communism? Or only the working class leaders you want after which they can ruthlessly Red Terror any threat to their power as happened in Russia and China?
Have you thought these things through? Really? I certainly don’t claim to have, which is why I prefer less change and absolutely no violent revolutions. And for last time: am not a Windsor or UK model fan.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 2 2024 3:16 utc | 272

Fred from BC | Feb 29 2024 23:33 utc | 103
Look at this:https://skwawkbox.org/2024/03/02/even-bbc-admits-israel-lied-about-slaughter-of-starving-palestinians-gathered-for-aid/
It is completely established that the story that you cite is false, propagandistic, lies and, essentially, has been withdrawn
There is a moral to this: why do you believe the most unlikely Israeli story when the truth, obvious enough, is available?
Not surprisingly you rely on a repressive state to enforce what you consider to be true- that opposing the genocide in Gaza is ‘hateful.’
No doubt supporting the killing of civilians, the bombing of hospitals and the creation of famines and epidemics should be protected in Canada as it is in Israel.
I bet you miss Mulroney.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 2 2024 3:16 utc | 273

More from the banality of evil
cause Israel is starving those people. So why are we still so supportive of Israel when it is the one that is creating the problem that the United States now has to try to alleviate?” Niall Stanage, a columnist for The Hill, asked Kirby during a White House briefing.
“Israel itself has tried to help with the delivery of humanitarian assistance, as I said, they tried airdrops themselves just a week or so ago on their own accord,” Kirby said in response.
“It’s a war zone and there’s nowhere else for them to go. It’s not like in some other conflicts where they can easily flee,” Kirby said, blaming Hamas for creating the current circumstances in Gaza.
“There’d be no need for airdrops if Hamas hadn’t chosen to break what was a ceasefire in place on the 6th of October,” Kirby continued.
https://aje.io/hld8nn?update=2743824

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 2 2024 5:03 utc | 274

Genocidal Biden and Meloni (who happens to be, like Wilders and Milaei and Sunak, following the Xian zio hoard but it must be pure coincidence). The ‘self-defense’ argument was completely debunked at the ICJ hearings last week. In intl law it ought to be ‘limited in time’ and not involving permanent occupation or annexation.
US President Joe Biden and Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni have reiterated their support for Israel’s right to ‘self-defence’ and discussed the urgent need for more aid in Gaza during a meeting at the White House.
“The leaders discussed developments in the Middle East, including the importance of preventing regional escalation. They reaffirmed their commitment to Israel’s right to self-defence consistent with international law and underscored the urgent need to increase deliveries of life-saving humanitarian assistance throughout Gaza,” the White House said in a statement on Friday.
Biden and Meloni also talked about the ongoing war in Ukraine and the G7, which Italy is leading as the https://aje.io/hld8nn?update=2743815 chair.

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 2 2024 5:08 utc | 275

Mike Whitney does a deep into the Flour Massacre.

….. Have you seen the videos of the Israelis blocking food shipments to the people in Gaza? Some of these videos contain footage of families wrapped in Israeli flags, singing and dancing while they prevent aid trucks from entering Rafah. At one checkpoint the Israelis gyrate wildly while the loudspeakers blast rock-and-roll music at full volume. At another checkpoint, flag-draped Israelis set up an inflatable “Bouncy Palace” so their children can play with their friends while their parents stop emergency food supplies from crossing the border.
How do you explain this type of behavior? How do you explain the fact that seemingly normal people –who have jobs, went to college, and probably engage in the same social activities as the rest of us– are capable of such unspeakable cruelty? ….

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/israel-opens-fire-on-palestinians-gathered-at-food-truck-killing-104/

Posted by: Exile | Mar 2 2024 5:45 utc | 276

Here is a Case against Noahide law:
https://ronchapman.substack.com/p/the-role-of-the-jews-from-the-book-eaf

Posted by: Ron Chapman | Mar 2 2024 6:25 utc | 277

I go to Jpost.com site > kabbalah section
First creation of Adam: What is the Serpent?
I know this section from the Torah that the serpent comes and convinces Eve of her own free will to eat the fruit of knowledge
Here is the text:
‘Who or what is the Serpent?
According to the Midrash, the Serpent was an upright-walking animal the size of a camel with Satan for a rider. The Serpent pushed the Woman towards the Tree, according to some of the Sages, and raped her.’
(Midrash is the Talmud)
‘Abarbanel (Abarbanel on the Torah) believed the Serpent represented the imaginative quality of the Woman’
“Now the Serpent was cunning beyond any beast of the field that Lord G-d (Havaya El-m) had made.”
From that, we can conclude that the Serpent was an animal named by Adam. Consequently, Adam acquired the traits of the Serpent’s character. So did the Woman.’
So people have the serpent characteristics (an animal with Satan as the rider) according to the Talmud

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 2 2024 9:41 utc | 278

What is it about the people back then that none of them could spell properly?
Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 1 2024 22:33 utc | 259

things move on.
compare modern spoken English to the archaic American accents. 🙂
diaspora people don’t move much forward.( valid for language and culture )

Posted by: MAKK | Mar 2 2024 10:00 utc | 279

So according to the Talmud Eve was raped by Satan and has the imaginative quality of Satan.
‘By eating the fruit, the Woman reconnected (had intercourse) with Zeir Anpin of the Tree of Anti-Sefirot (represented by the Serpent). This is what the Sages meant by saying that the Serpent raped the Woman.’

Anti-Sefirot
‘The question is – what drives a human being to commit an act of Evil, and how does this process occur?
Surely, the commitment to doing Evil is driven by the desire to receive some benefits. In order to do this, the soul must embrace the concepts of the Tree of Anti-Sefirot and move away in the information space from the Tree of Sefirot. But the soul’s knowledge of the concepts of the Tree of Sefirot is an obstacle in the way of commitment of Evil. This knowledge creates tension. To remove the obstacle, the soul employs the concepts of doubt and excuse’
So according to Talmud souls want to be good but the tree of evil raped her via Satan on a serpents back.
I consider all of this reinterpretation of the Torah/Old Testement weird and an attempt to corrupt.

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 2 2024 10:09 utc | 280

“Thanks for the tip. Sure someone will find it handy once the second Jewish Holocaust rolls around.
History always repeats.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 1 2024 16:13 utc | 221
Awwww, the little Nazi Archie AssBungle finally tells us how it really feels about those pesky Jews. You should be a real man and self-immolate. Like Aaron B. That way you might be remembered outside of your little Nazi circle jerk on MOA. LOL!

Posted by: Douglas T. Averson | Mar 2 2024 10:41 utc | 281

‘(Shemot – Chapter 4: 2-3-4)
“And the Lord said to him, ‘What is this in your hand?’ And he said, ‘A staff.’
“And He said, ‘Cast it to the ground,’ and he cast it to the ground, and it became a serpent, and Moses fled from before it.
“And the Lord said to Moses, ‘Stretch forth your hand and take hold of its tail.’ So Moses stretched forth his hand and grasped it, and it became a staff in his hand.”
So the original interpretation that God turns something dangerous into a staff is changed by Rabinnical reinterpretation of the word serpent (with extra semantics) so when you read the original text it tries to lead to corruption.
So Moses is holding evil in his hand effectively is implied here.

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 2 2024 10:46 utc | 282

Look at this:https://skwawkbox.org/2024/03/02/even-bbc-admits-israel-lied-about-slaughter-of-starving-palestinians-gathered-for-aid/
It is completely established that the story that you cite is false, propagandistic, lies and, essentially, has been withdrawn
Posted by: bevin | Mar 2 2024 3:16 utc | 275
In addition, the BBC is now reporting that there are large numbers of young people in hospital with *gunshot* wounds, not panicked trampling wounds.

Posted by: laguerre | Mar 2 2024 10:54 utc | 283

Zyklon B was used for delousing because SO MANY people were dying of TB
Posted by: Earl Jones | Mar 1 2024 22:08 utc | 256
_____
Lice and TB have nothing to do with each other.
Posted by: malenkov | Mar 1 2024 23:55 utc | 262
…………
Earl Jones is correct in what he says except that it was typhus that stalked the camps, not TB.
Interestingly Ron Unz observed that when Auschwitz was short of Zyklon B, typhus increased and once supplies resumed, it was brought under control.
Kind of the opposite you would expect if you still adhere to the official line.

Posted by: Walt | Mar 2 2024 11:00 utc | 284

Posted by: Walt | Mar 2 2024 11:00 utc | 286
Urghhhh. icky depravity at its best.
Dead people can’t succumb to typhoid infections.
Lack of Cyclon B increases numbers of still (marginally alive) persons.
Then:
Cyclon B works via generating Hydrogen cyanide.
That is a full spectrum Biozid. It kills every living organism.
i.e. fully nonselective.

Posted by: MAKK | Mar 2 2024 11:13 utc | 285

@ Walt | Mar 2 2024 11:00 utc | 286
I suppose it stands to reason that an effective way of reducing the number of typhus cases is to kill the typhus patients.
Ach ihr Armleuchter!…

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 2 2024 11:20 utc | 286

Posted by: MAKK | Mar 2 2024 11:13 utc | 287
Let’s try to simplify it for you.
The camps were subject to periodic ravages of typhus.
There was no cure. Those infected, died.
The typhus was controlled by fumigating clothes and bedding in, well, “gas chambers”, using ZyklonB.
That’s what the gas chambers were for.
One of the striking discoveries chemical analysis showed was that there was strong evidence of cyanide remains in the admitted fumigation chambers but none in the alleged gassing chambers.
When there was no ZyklonB, typhus raged and deaths went up.
When supplies resumed, typhus incidence fell and so did the death rates.
Got it now?

Posted by: Walt | Mar 2 2024 11:22 utc | 287

I suppose it stands to reason that an effective way of reducing the number of typhus cases is to kill the typhus patients.
Ach ihr Armleuchter!…
Posted by: malenkov | Mar 2 2024 11:20 utc | 288
Not really.
Killing the typhus patients would not reduce the numbers.
Their illness has already been counted.
And the lice are still multiplying.
It can only be done by killing the lice.

Posted by: Walt | Mar 2 2024 11:34 utc | 288

@ Walt | Mar 2 2024 11:34 utc | 290
Yeah, I suppose Zyklon B, when sprayed on people, does kill lice. And still has nothing to do with typhus.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 2 2024 11:47 utc | 289

Yeah, I suppose Zyklon B, when sprayed on people, does kill lice. And still has nothing to do with typhus.
Posted by: malenkov | Mar 2 2024 11:47 utc | 291
One of the most efficient methods to fight lice and thereby to contain and eliminate typhus – and to kill other vermin like grain beetles, fleas, cockroaches, termites, mice, rats and many more as well – is their poisoning with highly volatile hydrogen cyanide.
Liquid hydrogen cyanide has a short shelf life and is extremely dangerous when handled incorrectly. Therefore, the in-situ development of gaseous hydrogen cyanide by pouring a strong acid (usually semi-diluted sulfuric acid) onto a highly soluble cyanide powder (such as sodium or potassium cyanide) was used instead until a few years after the First World War. However, numerous accidents resulted in research efforts to produce a safer method. This resulted in the development of “Zyklon” by German chemists, which was a mixture of a highly irritating liquid with a liquid cyanide component (methyl cyanoformate). Due to the irritant, it was considered safe, hence it was sold so liberally in the early 1920s that accidents occurred again, leading to the ban of all cyanide products for pest control in Germany in July 1922.

https://holocaustencyclopedia.com/toxin-chemical/zyklon-b/947/
When DDT became available towards the end of the war, supplies of ZyklonB ceased.
Case closed.

Posted by: Walt | Mar 2 2024 12:07 utc | 290

@ Walt | Mar 2 2024 12:07 utc | 292
Oh how cute! Boldface text! … which says nothing about direct application of Zyklon B on people.
And still nothing about typhus, which isn’t spread by lice anyway.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 2 2024 12:13 utc | 291

Israel is worshipping the Golden Calf once more
There is a sharp contrast between the Quranic and the biblical accounts of the prophet Aaron’s actions. The Quran mentions that Aaron attempted to guide and warn the people from worshipping the golden calf. However, the Israelites refused to stop until Moses had returned.[20] The righteous separated themselves from the pagans. God informed Moses that he had tried the Israelites in his absence and that they had failed by worshipping the golden calf.
Islamic view, the calf-worshipers’ sin had been shirk (Arabic: شرك), the sin of idolatry or polytheism. Shirk is the deification or worship of anyone or anything other than God

Posted by: p | Mar 2 2024 12:17 utc | 292

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 2 2024 12:18 utc | 293

18 Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? 19 Do I mean then that food sacrificed to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons. 22 Are we trying to arouse the Lord’s jealousy? Are we stronger than he?
Corinthians 10 18

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 2 2024 12:24 utc | 294

This is not the place to give a refutation that ZyklonB was used on people.
That book reference I think given earlier by Scorpion would serve as a useful guide.
Anyway you are still saying:
“And still nothing about typhus, which isn’t spread by lice anyway.”
I repeat:
One of the most efficient methods to fight lice and thereby to contain and eliminate typhus – and to kill other vermin like grain beetles, fleas, cockroaches, termites, mice, rats and many more as well – is their poisoning with highly volatile hydrogen cyanide.
Go and do some study before making further inaccurate comments.

Posted by: Walt | Mar 2 2024 12:26 utc | 295

The use of escalation is to cover one crime with another. Since 1947, the UK has managed never to pay compensations to its victims, by “handing over” the problems it creates to the UN. Now doing the same with Ukraine and the EU, a cunning plan BoJo worked out straight after Brexit, using 1 foot in the 5 eyes and 1 foot in military bilateral EU agreements. EU believers should learn more about 1948, to avoid paying for Ukraine for 75 years.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s-VWg0d7DQ8

Posted by: Minaa | Mar 2 2024 12:30 utc | 296

10 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
6 Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.”[a] 8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9 We should not test Christ,[b] as some of them did—and were killed by snakes. 10 And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel.
Corinthians 10

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 2 2024 12:31 utc | 297

@ Walt | Mar 2 2024 12:26 utc | 297
You seem obsessed with making my case. If you’re going to “control” typhus with Zyklon B, you have to saturate the air with it. Typhus is, after all, an airborne aerosol-transmitted pathogen. And to kill lice you have to spray it on a surface. Of course you can use it to delouse clothing; this was a common application. But Fred Leuchter types tend to ignore the fact that lice love bodies primarily, clothing incidentally.
The best you can come up with is that sanitary conditions in the camps, and the transports thereto, were unspeakably unhygienic, which hardly reflects well on the Reich. Unless of course you mean to imply that Jews, Roma, socialists, homosexuals, etc. are all filthy by nature, which is the usual implication.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 2 2024 12:40 utc | 298

Exodus 32.1-20
32When the people saw that Moses delayed to come down from the mountain, the people gathered around Aaron, and said to him, “Come, make gods for us, who shall go before us; as for this Moses, the man who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.” 2Aaron said to them, “Take off the gold rings that are on the ears of your wives, your sons, and your daughters, and bring them to me.” 3So all the people took off the gold rings from their ears, and brought them to Aaron. 4He took the gold from them, formed it in a mold, and cast an image of a calf; and they said, “These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt!

Posted by: pheonon | Mar 2 2024 12:48 utc | 299

The Lord said to Moses, “Go down at once! Your people, whom you brought up out of the land of Egypt, have acted perversely; they have been quick to turn aside from the way that I commanded them; they have cast for themselves an image of a calf, and have worshiped it and sacrificed to it, and said, ‘These are your gods, O Israel
Exodus 32.1-20

Posted by: phenon | Mar 2 2024 12:51 utc | 300