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February 11, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-045

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Mini-Stalingrad in Avdeevka (situation at 18.00 02/12/24).
Today our units continued their assault on the central part of Avdeevka in the area of ​​the railway station (see map 1). In the morning attack, several blocks north of the station were taken under our control, but we came up against the medical clinic, which is the tallest building in the area, and which the enemy managed to hold in the morning battles.
Artillery and aviation are now working here, and our units, building on this morning’s success, are trying to reach Industrialny Avenue in this area (which is less than 200 meters away).
At the same time, the enemy’s desire to hold these positions at any cost is becoming obvious, since their surrender would doom AFU forces in the central and southern part of the city to fighting while essentially being encircled. They do have enough ammunition and equipment to last them some time, but this will be their final agony.
The enemy has only two options:
To keep losing their reserves in the area of ​​Industrial Avenue, including the elite AZOV 3rd brigade of the NGU [National Guard of the Ukraine], which the regional commander, General Tarnavsky, is urgently redeploying to Avdeevka. The task is to bleed our defense units dry, so as to later knock them out of the city with a counterattack from the coke plant area.
The second option is a lot riskier, but if successful, it would provide a lot of advantages – which is to hold us back as long as possible in the area of ​​the railway station and Industrial Avenue, or the “road of life”, concentrate their strike force (including the 3rd brigade of the NGU) to the north of the city (like Manstein’s “Army Group Don” near Stalingrad at the end of 1942 ) and strike at Krasnogorovka and Veseloye at the rear of our units storming Avdeevka from the Novokalinovo area.
If successful, the successes of the last six months would be nullified. But there is a great risk – if the counterattack fails, as in the case of Paulus’ army in Stalingrad, units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Avdeevka will have to capitulate very soon.
This will all be playing out in February. Let’s keep our fingers crossed for our guys…
YURI PODOLYAKA

https://t.me/geromanat/19727

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Feb 12 2024 21:17 utc | 201

Nice shifting of goalposts.
Anyway the entirely risk-free vaccine — for anything — has yet to be invented.
Posted by: malenkov | Feb 12 2024 20:25 utc | 190
I didn’t shift anything. DNA vax also has similar cardiovascular side effects. Inform yourself better.
Posted by: Roger | Feb 12 2024 21:03 utc | 200
A counterattack now is pointless. Better retreat and wait till russians are exhausted but before they entrench themselves. Timing is crucial.

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 12 2024 21:19 utc | 202

What we do know about COVID-19 is that it presents the greatest risk to the elderly and those with seriously compromised health.
Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 12 2024 20:36 utc | 194
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There are exceptions, of course, but as a general rule this is true. Unfortunately this is something we know mostly in retrospect.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 12 2024 21:25 utc | 203

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Feb 12 2024 21:17 utc | 201
Option 2 has a lot of unknown variables like the level of fortification of Russians in Krasnogorovka. They must have really good intel or they are gambling whole brigades on the possibility that the russians aren’t prepared.

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 12 2024 21:29 utc | 204

by Milites | Feb 12 2024 20:39 utc | 195
Yes, you are correct. Red Army was a master in utilizing “maskirovka” to a confused Nazis on the Eastern front.
What is important is that Russian land war-faring doctrine has changed from the Soviet style, to an imitation of the NATO style and back to the Soviet style with some improvements that are dictated by the new battlefield configs.
Hiding and moving the troops around was and still is Alpha and Omega of such doctrine.
CIA assumption: “At the end of December 1979, the Soviet Union sent thousands of troops into Afghanistan and immediately assumed complete military and political control of Kabul and large portions of the country.”
For many months, the USA and its agencies had no idea how many troops there are.
Initial force was 50k with 50k incoming some weeks later over the period of a year.
The highest peak was around 145k in June 1980 and the lowest around 60k in May 1983. Than the USA created Bin-Laden and freedom fighters.
But that is another story, as with RF is really hard to know where do they show up en masse and is that what is known and even seen, the true representation.
This is the core skill that RF military runs well.
Despite former and current NATO capabilities in ISR.
It does not really help there.
It was claimed, way back then, that 250k Russians are coming, from Belorussia and Russia.
The whole attack on Kiev and surroundings, was run by 40k mixed troops.
Are Zapad maneuvers and exercises announced this year too?
I do not have the word on that, but if it is so, there goes a land-bridge to Kaliningrad and Odessa Oblast.
Out of the blue – just a prediction. More of a reaction, really.

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 12 2024 21:30 utc | 205

If you believe the Moon landings hoax, with tech from the 1960s, but not replicated in 50 years despite the tremendous military value of a lunar base, just because the Soviets kept quiet… you are probably an American patriot.
Posted by: Biochar | Feb 12 2024 17:13 utc | 164
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Oh yay. So it’s not enough to reopen the COVID debate, now we have to do the moon landing too.
The biggest problem I have with the “hoax” narrative is that it requires the silence of literally thousands of conspirators. To be successful, conspiracies require that there be as few participants as possible.
My Occam’s Razor suggests that the landings can’t be replicated now because the quality of American production has fallen so drastically, as has the sense of responsibility among members of American corporate boards.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 12 2024 21:41 utc | 206

Credit goes to Pepe Escobar for digging this up and posting it to his Telegraph. As printed in the 1911 Britannica:
“Ukraine (‘frontier’), the name formerly given to a district of European Russia now comprising the governments of Kharkov, Kiev, Podolia, and Poltava. The portion east of the Dnieper became Russian in 1686 and the portion west of that river in 1793.”
An excellent example of why old encyclopedias ought to be kept–so the past can’t get canceled.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 12 2024 21:54 utc | 207

Once RAF break through to Industrialny and establish direct lines of sight across the fields it will be near impossible to move significant resources into the Coke plant. Syrsky will try anyway but the few days lost on Zaluzhny might be the biggest strategic failure after Bakhmut.
The Coke plant itself can be held a long time while FABs and thermobaric weapons will have to keep UAF from taking higher positions.
Have there been further news on the reported 100 foreign legionnaires killed BTW?

Posted by: SOS | Feb 12 2024 22:28 utc | 208

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Feb 12 2024 21:17 utc | 201
Option 2 has a lot of unknown variables like the level of fortification of Russians in Krasnogorovka. They must have really good intel or they are gambling whole brigades on the possibility that the russians aren’t prepared.
Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 12 2024 21:29 utc | 204

I’m thinking that the Ukies intel about Russian preparedness there is about as competent as the intel the Ukies had before the great counteroffensive last summer. Intel being an oxymoron.

Posted by: Mike R | Feb 12 2024 22:34 utc | 209

Re: Posted by: malenkov | Feb 12 2024 21:41 utc | 206

My Occam’s Razor suggests that the landings can’t be replicated now because the quality of American production has fallen so drastically, as has the sense of responsibility among members of American corporate boards.

Why on Earth would the Soviets go along with handing the Americans a huge propaganda victory?!?
Completely nuts.
Obviously the Soviets would have been taking the world about how fake the whole thing was.

Posted by: Julian | Feb 12 2024 22:39 utc | 210

Keep old encyclopedias and books, as they might lead to the assumption that history shapes the current reality to the imaginative while to the unimaginative, a reality is now and that is it – that is a one deprived of a self-reflection.
That is a fundamental difference between the West and the East, that exists still. A Cold War atavism, if you will.
Syrsky has a moral task to cleanse Nazis out of Ukrainian army, so that unavoidable surrender has less bad arguments against him, where he indeed acted, as a tool of denazification. It is a secret Slavic deal on the endgame, that the West still has to discover that it is ongoing for sometime.
It is played on a certain telepathic level.
In 70s Soviets had issues in a communication with their subs when those were under the thick ice. So they came to an idea. Some military animal biologist was connecting animals on a polygraph to test emotional responses. Together with the Soviet Navy he developed the system to communicate by utilizing rabbits, as they procreate in big numbers.
They would connect a mother rabbit in the base to a polygraph and send 20-30 offspring (2 generations) rabbits on a sub. They invented the cipher and a code, time based, that was transmitted from the sub by – killing rabbits in a time based succession. Mother rabbit would react immediately on a graph. Communication issues solved.
The best of all, Soviets never really researched mechanics of it, they just knew it works and used it. True story.

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 12 2024 22:47 utc | 211

malenkov | Feb 12 2024 21:41 utc | 206
*** My Occam’s Razor suggests that the landings can’t be replicated now because the quality of American production has fallen so drastically, as has the sense of responsibility among members of American corporate boards. ***
A UK academic who had worked in the Kennedy administration at the time, told me that JFK was not really interested in the “moon” space project at all, nor were most of his staff — it just happened to be a potential success that was needed to look good and deflect attention from things not going particularly well (for them) on earth.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 12 2024 23:28 utc | 212

Meant at the time of the so-called “space race”, which led to the moon landings.
The earth-orbit military angle was obviously a different matter.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 12 2024 23:34 utc | 213

I think it’s odd the technology of traveling to the moon is perhaps the only technology that has not progressed the last 50 years, in fact it has disappeared entirely. It couldn’t be a hoax though!

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Feb 12 2024 23:49 utc | 214

by malenkov | Feb 12 2024 21:44 utc | 89
I can’t imagine who in his right mind would accuse the site owner of laziness.
One part of b. was an IT manager, so a Dilbert cynical dude.
I am pretty sure that he could automate lots of stuff like setting up current threads, refresh, linking posts etc.
Intelligent people ought or even deserve to be lazy sometime.
MoA is the only archive on the web, next to the Cryptome, that if pushed through a huge and advanced AI, the AI would go two ways. The one being to commit a suicide, after printing the final answer, the other, that cheers up and prints the universal formula for unifying everything. We are scary, both ways.

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 13 2024 0:07 utc | 215

Apologies, but the thread disrupters have won already. Congratulations shadow****
Blair … Boris … Starmer … Biden … Von der Layen … Stoltenberg … Fauci … Clinton … Scholz … Gates … Soros ….
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 12 2024 15:52 utc | 149
Worst football team ever. Presumably Trump, Bush senior, Bush junior, Trudeau and Macron are on the bench?

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Feb 13 2024 0:14 utc | 216

Yes the choice is obvious to other countries, but to the US it’s not. US beliefs are odious enough, coupled with delusional beliefs they are downright dangerous. I’d settle for realpolitik.
Posted by: Mike R | Feb 12 2024 16:09 utc | 154
Times are changing – MAGA isn’t unique to Trump, it’s organic. There’s always been an undercurrent of “isolationism” in American politics – George Washington’s Farewell address, the Know Nothings, the Whigs, Taft, Birchers, etc. but now as the US weakens abroad and at home it is becoming more prominent. The US will disengage, it’s only a matter of if they go quietly or not.

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 0:16 utc | 217

by James M. | Feb 13 2024 0:16 utc | 217
So pilgrims and settlers still reign? Really?

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 13 2024 0:20 utc | 218

If you believe the Moon landings hoax, with tech from the 1960s, but not replicated in 50 years despite the tremendous military value of a lunar base, just because the Soviets kept quiet… you are probably an American patriot.
Posted by: Biochar | Feb 12 2024 17:13 utc | 164
Please tell me the “military value” of a lunar base.

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 0:20 utc | 219

Why on Earth would the Soviets go along with handing the Americans a huge propaganda victory?!?
Completely nuts.
Obviously the Soviets would have been taking the world about how fake the whole thing was.
Posted by: Julian | Feb 12 2024 22:39 utc | 210

What these conspiracy theories fail to account for is that the Soviets/Russians themselves are very far from repeating their successes from the 1960s and 1970s.
They can’t even get a lunar probe to land properly these days, after sending dozens of those back then.
This is what civilizational decline looks like — there were abundant resources and a can-do spirit at one point in time, but the surplus isn’t there in the same way and the human capital has declined too, so that kind of grand project just can’t get off the ground. It appears that ambitious large-scale projects happen during the uphill climb before a civilization hits its technological peak and its peak resource use, which is a bit counterintuitive, but it does make sense (and it isn’t unique to us — if you go back to ancient times you will see the same pattern in Egypt, Rome and other places).
Sure, technology continues advancing, and the physical resources are still available (though they won’t be in the longer term), but they are not available the way they were half a century ago — because the rich have demanded a much greater share of the overall wealth, while there is a minimum that needs to be allocated to the masses in order to keep them complacent and not rebelling, and because the size of the population of both groups, but especially the rich has increased dramatically, there isn’t enough left for space exploration.
Thus manned Moon landings more than 50 years ago and nothing comparable since then, and iteration time on missions measured in months back then and in many years now.
Russia is in fact an even better example of the decline than NASA.
NASA still sent a fair few probes towards the outer planets, asteroids, etc. since the end of the Cold War.
Roscosmos on the other hand has been reduced to being a space taxi for others, relying on the old Soviet technological legacy, and only in recent years, and primarily because of military necessity, has it returned to the serious technology development game. But ambitious scientific missions there have been almost none of for more than three decades.
Where did the resources go? Physically, they went to buying megayachts, private jets, limousine parks, mansions on private islands and other totally wasteful consumption for the oligarchs. Meanwhile the brain drain towards the West has been massive too. In Soviet times all that went into overall human capital development, the military, and ambitious projects such as space exploration (which were, of course, also always directly tied to the military). That’s the difference.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Feb 13 2024 0:37 utc | 220

@181 re: long train near Marinka Volnovakha etc … weird. would make an interesting EW contraption, though why on earth you need a one-time-trick of that magnitude in that area is beyond me.

Posted by: pxx | Feb 13 2024 0:37 utc | 221

@201 re Yuri Podolyaka report & Avdeevka prognosis
Same as previous urban clusters on the Donetsk line. Intense push to capture key pressure points, then protracted finish to extract casualties and end the battle with a good ratio.
Robbing Zele of his coke plant just near the 2-year anniversary would be something of a cruel joke I guess

Posted by: pxx | Feb 13 2024 0:44 utc | 222

So pilgrims and settlers still reign? Really?
Posted by: whirlX | Feb 13 2024 0:20 utc | 218
It goes to the core of what America is – a rump former Anglo-Saxon colony that was blessed by its geography. That is, two huge ocean moats surrounding a large, sparsely populated, and fertile land mass. America is an accidental great power, but filled with the same pilgrims and settlers from two hundred plus years ago. Spend any time there, and you’ll see what I mean.

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 0:47 utc | 223

If you believe the Moon landings hoax, with tech from the 1960s, but not replicated in 50 years despite the tremendous military value of a lunar base, just because the Soviets kept quiet… you are probably an American patriot.
Posted by: Biochar | Feb 12 2024 17:13 utc | 164

It hasn’t happened for the simple reason that the resources for it were misallocated and wasted. Not that it would be all the valuable on its own once it had been done several times. Something like a manned mission to Mars would be a different story, as that would involve solving new problems that do matter.
Such a project was and is within technological reach. But who is going to pay for it?
The original Apollo program would cost $200-250 billion today. More than that really because while technology has advanced, that does not mean things have become cheaper, often it’s the exact opposite. So at least 10 times NASA’s whole annual budget.
A mission to Mars would be several times that.
And that in a nutshell is why it hasn’t happened.
Does/did the US have the resources to do it? Absolutely, many times over in fact. But where did those resources go? They went towards:
1) Tax cuts for the rich, to the tune of many trillions, which were then “invested” in megayachts, private jets, mansions, etc.
2) Bailouts of banks and other corporations, again untold trillions, also ultimately redirected towards wasteful consumptions
3) Wars in the Middle East and all over the globe, costing double-digit trillions at this point. And there is nothing more wasteful than war
4) The biggest unmentionable — keeping sububia going at all cost. This is the biggest single dissipation of real physical resources and human capital.
Without all that waste there would have been many more major space exploration milestones hit in the half a century since the original moon landings, but we do not live in that alternative timeline.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Feb 13 2024 1:02 utc | 224

Some videos for today.
Russian Tornado-G MLRS strikes position of enemy troop rotation on the Zaporozhye front:
https://rutube.ru/video/1682026b7c845c5c6ed78e2be7849f64/
Russian thermobaric TOS-1A system annihilates enemy fortified position:
https://rutube.ru/video/a6dba6bbad97c6a239b33046b9bc10e7/
Russian T-80 tank in action near Kupyansk:
https://rutube.ru/video/00ca58bf263a56dc2ef36c024ef23646/
Russian airborne troops conduct Kornet ATGM strike on enemy dugout northwest of the DPR’s Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/c0d822f17ee5e37a3f48cc26a6e8f3ac/
Russian Su-25s conduct airstrikes near Donetsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/e1493e4c1c06ebf31f42f2a6111e7deb/

Posted by: Nate | Feb 13 2024 1:11 utc | 225

by: shаdοwbanned | Feb 13 2024 0:37 utc | 220
While I mostly agree, some thing is not fair to put in this way:

Roscosmos on the other hand has been reduced to being a space taxi for others, relying on the old Soviet technological legacy, and only in recent years, and primarily because of military necessity, has it returned to the serious technology development game. But ambitious scientific missions there have been almost none of for more than three decades.

Roskosmos generated lots of moneys. They were almost 20 years a shuttle service for launching satellites, cheaper per kg and more reliable than any other, maintainers of a space station, and had enabled SpaceX to create their wonder rockets. They build amazing satellites, and have R&D going on rather far. In Russia in general among engineers and technical people is a saying if it is good for Roscosmos, it is good enough for everyone, while Chinese have a deep respect to Ros. Soviets hated mishaps, but Russians are less prone due to a serial production of the rockets without changing them much, if at all. No need for even more green rocket or such stuff.
Planning base on the Moon with China is demanding.
Base that can only be scientific and a prospector one.
As previously discussed, the Moon base is going to be in a crater so it has heated surroundings and is still in the shade. The only actual use of the Moon would be to install telescopes on the dark side, and a separate from Ferengi, a deep space com network.
Thanks to really cool Soviet SciFi story telling and a narrative, that inspired lots of people in 70s and 80s to plan craziest stuff, so no wonder that NASA and Musk steal from 30 year old ideas and plans.
So it is not fair to diss them. Rogozhin was good and the new guy seems ok, so far. Naturally he has less load.
No cheap gas, no cheap satellite launches. A consequences for the West, so far and counting.

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 13 2024 1:30 utc | 226

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 0:47 utc | 223
Simplistic analysis whose omissions are more revealing than the précis, and begs the question, what happened to Africa then?
Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 0:16 utc | 217
MAGA is much more than just an iteration of American isolationism, it is the spearpoint of a real grass routes rebellion against the increasingly corrupted post-war social contract, between those who govern and those who are governed. America will retreat, in the sense that it will withdraw to regroup, but it will be back again once more frustrating its naysayers and doom-mongers, who always seem to gather to eagerly proclaim its imminent demise just about the time it is scheduled for a revival. Hence the scorn and hyperbolic rhetoric leftists heap on any US resurrectional movement as it robs many of them of the moment they have defined their life by.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 13 2024 1:32 utc | 227

How NATO thinks.

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 13 2024 1:40 utc | 228

Simplistic analysis whose omissions are more revealing than the précis, and begs the question, what happened to Africa then?
Posted by: Milites | Feb 13 2024 1:32 utc | 227
Do you want me to give you a dissertation on a blog? I don’t have the time, nor do I think b would appreciate the “spam.” Even still, there is plenty of literature on this topic, I suggest enlightening yourself.
As for Africa: Have you been there? It’s not as developed as Eurasia, nor even Latin America in some respects. It has great potential with its natural resources, and hard-working population, but corruption is endemic on that continent.
grass routes rebellion
Grassroots not routes, and MAGA is just a reiteration of the Tea Party, which is a reiteration of Paul’s and Buchanan’s presidential runs, which were a reiteration of Taftian paleoconservatism, which itself harkened back to the 19th century and beyond. It’s always been there.
The problem with MAGA is it’s now tied to Trump, which does help bring it to the mainstream, but he doesn’t care about the ideological or intellectual foundations of it. He only cares about propelling himself to power. However, a true isolationist at the helm would indeed change American foreign policy.
America…will be back again
All empires fall, and America is no exception. I suggest learning Mandarin…

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 2:50 utc | 229

ZH has a posting up with the title
“Vladimir Putin Will Not Lose This War”: Sen. Ron Johnson And Elon Musk Discuss Facing Reality In Ukraine
the quotes

Update (2100ET): During today’s Twitter Spaces, Elon Musk and Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) discussed their opposition to the ongoing war in Ukraine.
“We all have to understand that Vladimir Putin will not lose this war… Losing to Vladimir Putin is existential to Vladimir Putin. Russia has four times the population and a much larger industrial base,” said Johnson, adding “Russia can produce 4.5 million artillery shells per year. We’re not even up to 1 million per year. The average age of a Ukrainian soldier right now is 43 years old.”
“If you’re worried about the people of Ukraine, you have to understand that probably 100,000 of their soldiers have been killed,” Johnson continued, adding “The only way this war ends is in a settlement, and every day that the war goes on, more Ukrainians and more Russian conscripts die, more civilians die, and more of Ukraine gets destroyed. Again, sending $60 billion as added fuel to the flames of a bloody stalemate makes no sense.”
Musk echoed Johnson’s sentiment, saying “As you said, there’s no way Putin is going to lose. If he backs off, he will be assassinated. And for those who want regime change in Russia, they should think about who is the person that could take out Putin?”

I would only point out how Russia stupid Musk sounds with his Putin assassination would change everything sound bite.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2024 2:55 utc | 230

Paranaense@177….if you know anyone who takes blood at a lab ask them about the 150% spike in blood related disorders, children with heart issues…..the list is long and harrowing…so many new sicknesses post jab…..but it’s good for you…..yeah right. Best to just stay away from like the politicians did…..Doug Ford in Canada big Vax pusher, like huge….his daughter outed the fucking hypocrite…he’s not vaxxed, but its good for you …yeah right.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 13 2024 3:23 utc | 231

Right now there are almost no planes over Poland, exactly where GPS is disturbed for some days already.
Also the southern corridor is moved more to over the Turkish mainland, than the Black Sea.
Highly interesting. It is 4:36 in the morning, West European timezone. Usually the skies are packed at this hour.

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 13 2024 3:37 utc | 232

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 2:50 utc | 229
So, no real answer to an obvious flaw in your simplistic analysis, just a hint at a pseudo- intellectual superiority (dissertation, no thanks mate, I wrote one of those, very tedious to reference). I take it the ‘learn Mandarin’ should be filed under the, learn Japanese, a statement popular in the 80’s-90’s and referenced by many eager to see American power eclipsed; however, like your advice, it too failed to appreciate the inherent weaknesses of the preferred usurper.
Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 12 2024 20:54 utc | 197
Not meta, it’s the whole essence of strategic warfare, crafting a coin with two heads. The Ukrainians have NO good options.
1. Retreat, leading to a collapse of that part of the front, with Russian air dominance threatening to turn the withdrawal into a rout, amidst the arriving mud.
2. Fight and delay for a counter attack which
A) Runs the risk of prematurely depleting and fixing a dwindling strategic reserve that might be needed hundreds of km’s away and may not be in time to stop the capture of Avdivka anyway.
B) Forces the Ukrainians to concentrate forces, with all the attendant dangers that exposes them to, and then attack into a heavily defended Northern flank (read about late-war Soviet exploitation/bridgehead doctrine) and risk being at the mercy of any counter-stroke.
Either way the time for retreat was months ago, it’s too late now, the only choice is the blood and treasure price they will have to pay to lose the city. Too much and the opportunities gifted to Russia will risk overwhelming any ability of the West to keep their proxy in the fight.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 13 2024 3:40 utc | 233

So, no real answer to an obvious flaw in your simplistic analysis, just a hint at a pseudo- intellectual superiority (dissertation, no thanks mate, I wrote one of those, very tedious to reference). I take it the ‘learn Mandarin’ should be filed under the, learn Japanese, a statement popular in the 80’s-90’s and referenced by many eager to see American power eclipsed; however, like your advice, it too failed to appreciate the inherent weaknesses of the preferred usurper
Posted by: Milites | Feb 13 2024 3:40 utc | 233
What do you want to know? What did I say was “simplistic” or wrong in your view? You’re not American, it’s obvious from your word choice “mate.” I am an American. I know very, very well the political history of my country. What I said was there has always been a strain of isolationism, nativism in American politics. It’s amplified now by MAGA.
This is not wrong, nor simplistic. Are there forces trying to prevent that? Of course, but they grow dimmer and dimmer in America. The US has always been a reluctant great power, always.
Also, you call me a “Pseudo-intellectual?” Ha! You don’t want to try to match wits with me. You’re unarmed as it is. And no, coloring books don’t count as dissertations.
Secondly, there’s huge difference between China today, and Japan of the ’80s. In the first place, China has a much larger population base, and manufacturing capacity, not to mention more natural resources. To boot, China doesn’t host American troops as Japan has continually since WWII. China has no such ties to the US.
Finally, there’s a massive cultural difference between the Chinese and Japanese that makes one far more capable of primacy than the other. Of course, you being from Europe, you might think all Asian, slanty-eyes are the same.

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 4:49 utc | 234

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Feb 12 2024 23:49 utc | 214
Late stage capitalism at work. There is no financial value to a moon landing and hundreds of billions in expenses. The days of huge national projects are over.
With current technology, another moon landing would be relatively simple, but very expensive and no real gain. Unmanned lunar modules and satellites can provide any data a manned landing could acquire.
There is simply no reason for a manned mission to the moon. Zero benefits and huge costs. Proving moon-conspiracy thinkers wrong is not a real motive. Nobody really cares what they think.

Posted by: Eclavdra | Feb 13 2024 6:36 utc | 235

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 13 2024 3:37 utc | 232
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Have you noticed that these holes in the airspace can also be observed over the Baltics?
Russia seems to be interfering with the Americans’ use of drones over the Black Sea?
Why so intensively…such as transporting troops towards Odessa or providing or concentrating departing ships towards Odessa?
Interfering with GPS and certain frequencies is complex and serves a specific purpose.
It was once reported that the Russians have a system that can cause electronic interference deep into Germany; there were pictures of this in the 2000s

Posted by: Ossie | Feb 13 2024 6:37 utc | 236

#235
With current technology, another moon landing would be relatively simple, but very expensive and no real gain. Unmanned lunar modules and satellites can provide any data a manned landing could acquire.
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Are you sure you know what launches where each year?
At least the general public never finds out what is being shot into space from where and with what target.
Why is Japan / China sending probes, some of them landing probes, to the BACK SIDE of the moon?

Posted by: ossie | Feb 13 2024 6:42 utc | 237

Secondly, there’s huge difference between China today, and Japan of the ’80s. In the first place, China has a much larger population base, and manufacturing capacity, not to mention more natural resources. To boot, China doesn’t host American troops as Japan has continually since WWII. China has no such ties to the US.
Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 4:49 utc | 234
I can somewhat agree on other arguments but China having ample natural resources?? This is ill informed at best.
Not meta, it’s the whole essence of strategic warfare, crafting a coin with two heads. The Ukrainians have NO good options.
Posted by: Milites | Feb 13 2024 3:40 utc | 233
My opinion is that the supposed trap happened by chance and not by design. It reminds me of chess where having a superior position, often offers tactical opportunities. It doesn’t mean that you have a specific tactic in mind, it just happens. Same here. Russians have worked on gaining superior positioning which allows specific maneuvers on the battlefield.

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 6:44 utc | 238

📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Report for the Morning of 13 February 2024; pub. 06:57📍
🎯 In the first half of the night, the Russian Armed Forces struck the “Gerani” UAVs at enemy targets in the #Zaporozhye, #Dnepropetrovsk, #Kherson regions.
🔹In the #Kherson direction, there is a hunt for enemy UAV operators, strikes are being carried out on the enemy’s shore, including in the #Berislav area. There are no changes in the frontline, the enemy holds part of the #Krynki settlement.
🔹On the #Zaporozhye front, enemy resources reported the alleged occupation of a field with a forest plantation south of #Kamenskoye, which is regularly hit by our artillery, including rocket. #Rabotino and #Verbovoye have counter fights.
🔹South of #Maryinka, our troops reached the settlement of #Pobeda. There are battles in the area of #Novomikhaylovka.
🔹In #Avdeyevka, our troops are developing success, several hundred meters more have been passed with battles to the south of the Blue Lakes (sand quarry). Fighting is already underway in the area of the Avdeyevka Motor Depot, which causes a decadent mood among enemy military analysts.
🔹To the west of #Artyomovsk, the RF Armed Forces are fighting in the same areas near #Bogdanovka, #Ivanovskoye (#Krasnoye) and #Kleshcheyevka.
🔹Near #Kupyansk, there is a battle at #Sinkovka and further south at #Tabayevka.
💥 In the #Belgorod region, yesterday the village of #Kozinka in the Grayvoron urban district and Novaya Tavolzhanka in the Shebekinsky urban district came under fire from the AFU. There were no casualties, although the AFU was again hitting the civilian population. In the #DPR, two civilians were injured as a result of enemy strikes.
🎬 Kherson Direction, from Юнкер: Our UAV operators have identified a tempting target for gunners. Drones are still joining the troops, albeit with some difficulty. And the result of their use is obvious, the object is destroyed and burns well.👇

https://t.me/two_majors/19103

Posted by: Down South | Feb 13 2024 6:45 utc | 239

The difference between Zaluzhny and Syrsky is that the ex-Commander-in-Chief constantly fought with politicians at headquarters for the military, whom Bankovaya easily sent on deadly operations for the sake of PR effect. Syrsky, on the contrary, never spoke out against any of Zelensky’s plans, which was clearly visible from the defense of Bakhmut, and then attempts to encircle him.
Now a similar situation is being repeated in Avdiivka, which is being bombarded with reserves in order to retain the city as a new symbol of comparison. How many more units will we lose in an attempt to break the tactical encirclement, for very dubious purposes? Last year Zaluzhny proposed leaving the city and maintaining reserves, but politicians decided to replace the Commander-in-Chief so as not to interfere with their plans.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/21631

Posted by: Down South | Feb 13 2024 6:47 utc | 240

RT
Boris Johnson’s smokescreens: Hitler comparisons to distract from his role in the Ukraine war

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It is rumored that Boris Johnson prevented an already negotiated peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine through personal intervention in April 2022. The British former prime minister remains silent on the matter. Even after the Carlson Putin interview, he continued to create smokescreens with ad hominem attacks and absurd comparisons to Hitler.
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Former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has attacked Tucker Carlson’s Putin interview in his column for the Daily Mail’s paid service, claiming it was taken straight from “Hitler’s playbook”. The politician explicitly did not respond to the accusation made by Vladimir Putin and, before him, by several close Zelensky confidants, that Johnson had talked the Ukrainian side out of the already negotiated and initialed Russian-Ukrainian peace treaty in April 2022.
Instead, Johnson tried to distract from the incriminating statements by making personal attacks on Carlson and Putin. Regarding Carlson, the column says that the American is a “stooge of the tyrant, the dictator’s voice recorder and a traitor to journalism.”
Putin’s message to America comes straight from the “Hitler script,” it continued:
“Stay out of this conflict […] ‒ and soon we can all live in peace.”
The only difference, Johnson said, was that Hitler spread his message in June 1940, shortly after the invasion of France, through the newspapers of William R. Hearst and a German-American journalist named von Wiegand.
The only thing Johnson said about the accusation against him that he prevented the signing of the already initialed peace treaty between Russia and Ukraine in April 2022 also seems like a smokescreen:
“Nothing and no one could have stopped these lion-hearted Ukrainians from fighting for their country – and nothing will.”
The missed peace: “We won’t sign anything, you will just keep fighting”
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The missed peace: “We won’t sign anything, you will just keep fighting”
Dawid Arachamija, parliamentary group leader of Zelenskiy’s ruling “Servant of the People” party in the Ukrainian parliament, said in an interview for Ukrainian television in early December about negotiations that took place between Russia and Ukraine in Belarus and later in Istanbul at the end of February and beginning of March 2022. reported. Arachamija, who led the Ukrainian delegation at these negotiations, said in the interview that the Russian negotiating delegation had a “specific goal”: to get Ukraine to accept military neutrality and abandon its aspirations for NATO membership. Regarding territorial demands, Arachamija stated that at this point Russian negotiators were ready to “go back to where they were before the invasion,” to the borders before February 24, 2022.
Arachamija explained why the peace agreement was not signed despite the preliminary effort by withdrawing Russian troops from the suburbs of Kiev and large parts of Ukraine by saying that the then British Prime Minister Boris Johnson came to Kiev and intervened with the words:
“We won’t sign anything, you’ll just keep fighting.”
The “lion-hearted Ukrainians” were – in the words of a close Zelenskiy confidant – ready to make peace with Russia in March and April 2022. Boris Johnson still owes an honest answer about his role in preventing this peace agreement on terms that are very favorable for Ukraine.

Posted by: Osssi | Feb 13 2024 6:48 utc | 241

I would only point out how Russia stupid Musk sounds with his Putin assassination would change everything sound bite.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2024 2:55 utc | 230
He has a point. To remove a powerful individual in the forefront of Russian politics requires an even more powerful individual and probably more radical in his approach. What he is saying in a nutshell: Putin is the lesser evil; His successor(s) might be even worse for the West.

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 6:49 utc | 242

Our source in the General Staff spoke about dissatisfaction with Syrsky’s decision to throw all reserves into the defense of Avdiivka, which Zaluzhny proposed leaving in order to save the lives of soldiers. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are confident that we are waiting for the Avdeevka meat grinder, in which our best units will lose their combat effectiveness, as was the case at Bakhmutram last year.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/21628

Our source in the OP said that Syrsky personally leads the defense of Avdeevka and is preparing a new counterattack to release the garrison in the city, which may be completely surrounded this week. Over the weekend, the Ukrainian Armed Forces made two attempts to push back the enemy in the north of Avdiivka, but suffered serious losses and were forced to withdraw.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/21629

The enemy is closing the circle in Avdeevka, and all attempts by the Ukrainian Armed Forces to push back the Russian army have failed.
There are fierce battles around the Zenit fortified area at the air defense base, while the enemy had success in the holiday village to the west of the private sector of Avdeevka and from Opytny. Both advances are aimed at closing the ring around the Zenit missile launcher.
“The Zenit stronghold (in the Tsarskaya Okhota area) is almost surrounded, while the enemy is already advancing from 4 directions, there is not a single road along which supply can now be safely provided.”

https://t.me/rezident_ua/21633

Colleagues of the Avdeevka case are situationally necessary for Bankova for their political games, which have little to do with military strategy. That is why Syrsky, in order to curry favor with the leadership, is ready to organize an Avdeevka meat grinder, which will exactly repeat the story with Bakhmut, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine will lose its best forces and then the deficit will increase.
But if last time it was a shortage of equipment, now there is a shortage of quality fighters. Let’s not even talk about the shortage of ammunition, which is already in short supply.
That is why ex-commander-in-chief Zaluzhny did not drain reserves in Avdiivka for the sake of a situational goal that the office officials needed in their political games.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17243

Posted by: Down South | Feb 13 2024 6:51 utc | 243

Our source in the OP said that closed sociology according to the President’s rating showed a record collapse over the past 24 months and amounted to almost 20%. Zaluzhny’s resignation became the main reason for the disappointment of Ukrainians and now only 34.5% support Zelensky, while the anti-rating is 47.3%.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/21630

Posted by: Down South | Feb 13 2024 6:52 utc | 244

In January 2024, the entire military leadership of the AFU was replaced.
▫️Minister of Veterans Affairs Yulia Laputina
Despite the fact that Laputina’s position is not directly related to the command of the AFU, her dismissal should not be ignored.
Laputina is a major general of the SBU, a participant in the raid on Kramatorsk in 2014. She has held the position of Minister of Veterans Affairs since 2020. She has been working with veterans of the current conflict since 2022 and did not cope with the task: the growing dissatisfaction of military personnel, as well as family members of the killed and wounded, cannot be ignored. It is not yet known whether anyone will be appointed to her position.
▫️ Brigadier General Igor Skibyuk. Being in the Airborne Forces since 1998, he received the rank of brigadier general in 2023, and the same year he was appointed to the position of chief of staff and deputy commander of the Airborne Forces of Ukraine. Skibyuk, to a certain extent, had a hand in the “successes” of the Airborne Forces of the AFU during the summer-autumn offensive campaign. In January 2024, he was appointed commander of the Airborne Forces of the AFU. A big step forward, given more than modest experience in senior command positions.
▫️ Lieutenant General Yuri Sodol. Appointed to the post of commander of the joint forces of the AFU – the body of strategic command of troops. In the organizational structure, this body is located between the Commander-in-Chief of the AFU and the groupings of the joint forces. Sodol is a career military man, a participant in hostilities in the Donbass in 2014-2015, held positions in the Airborne Forces (2018), and from 2018 to 2024 – commander of the Marine Corps of the AFU.
▫️ Lieutenant General Alexander Pavlyuk. Career officer, graduate of the Kharkov Guards Higher Tank Command School, participant in the war in Donbass 2014-2015. Despite his extensive experience and solid track record, Pavlyuk has nothing to brag about. In 2014, it was he who commanded the 24th Mechanized Infantry Brigade, which came under a rocket and artillery attack near Zelenopolye and was surrounded, and in 2022 he also led the defense of Mariupol, which was also surrounded and taken by the Russian Armed Forces. Since February 2023, Pavlyuk held the position of First Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine – at that time Alexey Reznikov.
▫️ Major General Igor Plakhuta. Until 2023, Plakhuta, who replaced the previous commander of the Territorial Defence, General Bargilevich, had no military experience and did not hold military positions. In the last ten years, Plahuta has held various positions in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Considering that the role of the territorial defense forces has now significantly shifted towards combat operations, it is unlikely that the general’s previous experience will be in demand.
◼️ Major General Anatoly Bargilevich: a career military man and veteran of the war in Donbass 2014-2015. In the period from 2014 to 2022, he alternated between staff work and command of the Territorial Defense Forces. Bargilevich is an experienced staff officer, but his appointment is more likely related to his service as chief of staff of the Khortitsa operational-strategic group under the command of Syrsky from 2022 to October 2023 with the group which lost the battles for Lisichansk, Severodonetsk, Soledar and Artyomovsk.
What conclusion can be drawn?
It is possible that a change in the entire top leadership of the AFU during a crisis period is required for two reasons:
firstly, blame all the failures on the former commander-in-chief Zaluzhny and extinguish the negativity against the backdrop of heavy losses and a reduction in the supply of Western weapons.
Secondly, to launch a new mobilization (and possibly an attempt at a counteroffensive) in the spring-summer-autumn of 2024.
The thesis “it won’t be the same as before” may become a justification for intensifying repression against the population who refused to support Kiev’s decisions.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/88540

Posted by: Down South | Feb 13 2024 6:54 utc | 245

I can somewhat agree on other arguments but China having ample natural resources?? This is ill informed at best.
Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 6:44 utc | 23
China has the biggest deposits of rare earths in the world. The future is not going to be tied to fossil fuels, no the future is in rare earths. Think more broadly, not narrow.

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 6:56 utc | 246

Tucker Carlson’s First Discussion Since Putin Interview | World Government Summit 2024 Full Panel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMXikZM_O80

Posted by: Fuki | Feb 13 2024 7:00 utc | 247

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 6:49 utc | 242
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None of those who comment here have ever been to Russia!
But everyone will still do one thing, send prayers to heaven: “Give us Putin back!
I’ve heard hardliners in Russia talking, I mean the ones in uniform…God forbid if they have their hands on the button!
Widespread opinion: Drop a nuclear bomb in front of the West and they will run away screaming!
Reason: Mostly, THEY HAVE MORE TO LOSE!
Putin has so far avoided any provocation by NOT naming the attackers on certain places.
The hardliners on his staff and the rest of the army know who did what. In order not to snub NATO, Putin didn’t name them
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Murder Putin…man oh man!
The rest of the world cannot even imagine the reaction of the Russians!
Why doesn’t Putin have Sylensky shot…he would create an icon.
If Putin is murdered, then Russians will actually be back in Berlin, or the world will be light before it gets dark…even the Chinese would stand upside down and tremble!

Posted by: Ossii | Feb 13 2024 7:01 utc | 248

Thanks to really cool Soviet SciFi story telling and a narrative, that inspired lots of people in 70s and 80s to plan craziest stuff, so no wonder that NASA and Musk steal from 30 year old ideas and plans.
So it is not fair to diss them. Rogozhin was good and the new guy seems ok, so far. Naturally he has less load.
No cheap gas, no cheap satellite launches. A consequences for the West, so far and counting.
Posted by: whirlX | Feb 13 2024 1:30 utc | 226

Good observation about Soviet Sci-Fi.
But I was not at all dissing Roscosmos, although Rogozin was and still is a clown, I was dissing the Kremlin, because it is ultimately the Kremlin’s job to fix societal dysfunction, and it has only done that on a very superficial level, refusing to fix the really deep problems, and as long as that is not done, there will never be enough money and men for Roscosmos to do big things again on its own the way the Soviets did.
Remember Putin’s “we are bourgeoisie now too” remark? What more is there to say? Soviet Sci-Fi of the 1960s most definitely didn’t imagine the 20002, 2010s and 2020s looking they way things actually unfolded in socioeconomic terms.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Feb 13 2024 7:06 utc | 249

Addendum to the idea Putin ex
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Should Putin be assassinated??
Those around him would have to sell it to the public for their own protection as an accident or for health reasons!
The country is on its head, high-ranking officers would probably decide for themselves what to do.
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Please don’t compare this to what would happen in the USA…everyone, everyone in Russia would look for the perpetrator where?
Not in the madhouse!

Posted by: Ossi | Feb 13 2024 7:09 utc | 250

China has the biggest deposits of rare earths in the world. The future is not going to be tied to fossil fuels, no the future is in rare earths. Think more broadly, not narrow.
Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 6:56 utc | 246
I know that but China hasn’t solved the issue with fossil fuels that is why it still imports a huge amount of them to power its industry. It is good to think about the Future but the Present is what matters most. In a potential war with say the US, China will face critical shortages of fossil fuels. Solar power is nice but not useful in the battlefield with current tech.

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 7:16 utc | 251

In a potential war with say the US, China will face critical shortages of fossil fuels. Solar power is nice but not useful in the battlefield with current tech.
Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 7:16 utc | 251
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Considering who China has a border with?
For example, Russia has far more raw materials, including coal, than China!

Posted by: ossi | Feb 13 2024 7:35 utc | 252

@ Fuki | Feb 13 2024 7:00 utc | 247 with the link to the Tucker Carlson interview….1st after Putin
Thanks for that. I am growing in respect for Tucker Carlson. He says lots of good things in that interview and I hope he continues to speak out like he is.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2024 7:35 utc | 253

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 7:16 utc | 251
Not with Russia on China side. Only way would be total control of sea traffic but I guess that this is not possible for usuk.

Posted by: Mario | Feb 13 2024 7:44 utc | 254

I know that but China hasn’t solved the issue with fossil fuels that is why it still imports a huge amount of them to power its industry. It is good to think about the Future but the Present is what matters most. In a potential war with say the US, China will face critical shortages of fossil fuels. Solar power is nice but not useful in the battlefield with current tech.
Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 7:16 utc | 251
China’s “lack” of fossil fuels will be the least of the US military’s problems if they face the PLA. Besides China has (nearly) direct access to Russia’s Far East, which has ample fossil fuels. More than enough to supply China for the interim.

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 8:00 utc | 255

Russia declares Estonian PM Kaja Kallas a ‘wanted’ person
Russian authorities did not specify the charges. Kaja Kallas has been a staunch supporter of Ukraine defending itself against the Russian invasion. (DW)

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 13 2024 9:28 utc | 256

Russia to double military presence along Nato border, Estonia warns
Intelligence says Moscow will beef up its troops and weapons near Finland and Baltic states ahead of next war
(FT)

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 13 2024 9:32 utc | 257

Russia declares Estonian PM Kaja Kallas a ‘wanted’ person
Russian authorities did not specify the charges. Kaja Kallas has been a staunch supporter of Ukraine defending itself against the Russian invasion. (DW)
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 13 2024 9:28 utc | 256.

Maybe has something to do with her open admission during the previous munich security conference, where she admitted the falsification of history in their history schoolbooks to basically incite hatred towards everything russian. Live on camera.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 13 2024 9:33 utc | 258

Perhaps related: Finland just elected a very pro-Nato globalist/federalist president on Sunday.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 13 2024 9:35 utc | 259

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 13 2024 7:35 utc | 253
Thanks for that. I am growing in respect for Tucker Carlson. He says lots of good things in that interview and I hope he continues to speak out like he is.
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Yes, it was interesting, Psychohistorian, and he certainly… but that bit about the good father and how the US had been a great moral force for so long suggests he has a long way to go. Thanks for the link here @Fuki — you beat me to it.

Posted by: Deeplurker | Feb 13 2024 9:46 utc | 260

There was an interesting point in Dima report today. Apparently some sort of new personal anti-drone EW warfare systems have been developed, which can jam drones. Within a squad, 2 or 3 persons may carry such systems to protect the entire group from drones.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 13 2024 9:51 utc | 261

Our source reports that at headquarters, the new commander-in-chief Syrsky showed Zelensky a plan for counterattacks, which is already being implemented in Avdeevka, as well as in the Kupyansky direction.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces have no results yet at those levels. But reserves continue to dwindle. The danger is that large groups of soldiers began to gather close to the LBS; there could be large-scale tragedies.

https://t.me/legitimniy/17244

Our source in the General Staff said that the garrison of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Avdiivka began to leave their positions without permission this night in order to avoid being surrounded. Syrsky urgently left for the East to lead the defense and keep the panic in Avdiivka, which no one in the Ukrainian army believes in holding.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/21637

Posted by: Down South | Feb 13 2024 9:54 utc | 262

The Great and The Good ….
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/100007

❗️🇷🇺👉🇺🇸🏴‍☠️🇺🇦 Western Pharma Companies Conducted Experiments on Patients in Ukrainian Psychiatric Hospitals, Documents Unveil — Editor-in-chief of RT
In the basement of Hospital No. 7 in Mariupol, new documents have been discovered confirming that Western pharmaceutical companies conducted experiments on patients in the psychiatric department.
For several years, they were tested with experimental rheumatological medications.
❗️Among the companies mentioned in the documents are Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Celltrion, Janssen Pharmaceuticals (now Johnson & Johnson Innovative Medicine), Catalent Pharma Solutions, Biopharmaceutical, and others.
In spring 2022, our Ministry of Defense revealed that scientists from the USA conducted trials of potentially dangerous biological agents on patients at the regional clinical psychiatric hospital No. 3 in Kharkov. Details of Pentagon abuses in psychiatric hospital No. 1 in the village of Strelechye against a group of male patients aged 40-60 with a high degree of physical exhaustion were also exposed.
❗️The legacy of Mengele lives on and thrives.

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 13 2024 9:58 utc | 263

As part of broader efforts to neutralise Ukrainian defence industrial targets, the Russian military on the night of February 8 launched a major drone strike on the Ekvator Factory in the Mykolaiv region near the Black Sea. Among the facility’s primary products were light and lower medium weight drones being used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Footage of the strike showed multiple explosions on the factory floor, with the third explosion having been the most powerful and hitting the central and inner parts of the factory. Russian sources reported that these areas housed considerable quantities of military equipment, as well as jeeps with military license plates. Local Russian-aligned paramilitaries reported that alongside damage to the facility, the strike killed several foreign specialists who were supporting drone production efforts. Pressure on Ukraine’s defence sector has increased considerably as the primary financier of Kiev’s war effort, the United States, cut off funding from December 2023 amid growing domestic controversies over the effort’s immense costs. Ukrainian frontline units have been reported by a wide range of Western sources to be facing increasingly critical munitions shortages, with growing signs of an impending collapse on the frontlines.
Specialists from across the Western world have played growing roles in the Ukrainian war effort since the escalation of Russian-Ukrainian hostilities to full scale war in February 2022. This has only become more necessary as very large quantities of complex Western weaponry has been delivered to Ukraine, much of which takes several years of training to operate. Western contractors have played a significant role in operating this hardware, a key example has been the American MIM-104 Patriot air defence system, which Ukrainian personnel were considered unable to operate before mid-2024 at the earliest, but which began to operate in the country in early 2023. Active duty Western personnel have also played significant roles in the war effort, a notable example being the British Royal Marines deployed for combat operations near the frontlines since April 2022 at the latest. Russia appears to have particularly singled out foreign forces for targeting, and on the evening of January 16 were reported to have launched a missile strike targeting the headquarters of predominantly French European foreign fighters. Russian sources subsequently reported that the personnel targeted were military contractors, and that the strike caused at least 80 casualties at least 60 of which were killed. Russia has seen its ability to launch both missile and drone strikes expand considerably as industry has successfully increased output to several times pre-war levels.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/western-defence-industrial-experts-strike

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 13 2024 10:06 utc | 264

“Considering who China has a border with?
For example, Russia has far more raw materials, including coal, than China!
Posted by: ossi | Feb 13 2024 7:35 utc | 252”
Having access to a market is not the same as producing the product yourself.
“China’s “lack” of fossil fuels will be the least of the US military’s problems if they face the PLA. Besides China has (nearly) direct access to Russia’s Far East, which has ample fossil fuels. More than enough to supply China for the interim.
Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 8:00 utc | 255″
Again having access to a market does not equal to having direct access to the resource itself. What happens if relationships between China and Russia sour in the future?

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 10:48 utc | 265

I’m thinking that the Ukies intel about Russian preparedness there is about as competent as the intel the Ukies had before the great counteroffensive last summer. Intel being an oxymoron.
Posted by: Mike R | Feb 12 2024 22:34 utc | 209
IMHO the folly of the counteroffensive was due to bad simulation foundational parameters not to faulty intel. NATO knew that the Russians were building a very serious defense line along the whole front, they just thought it would be possible to penetrate it by brute forcing it. At least that is what the simulations showed them.
When you build any simulation you have to designate some parameters. Depending on those you could end up with completely different end states despite having the same start.

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 10:56 utc | 266

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/100009

Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 13 2024 10:57 utc | 267

What happens if relationships between China and Russia sour in the future?
Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 10:48 utc | 265
You don’t know that relationship the way I know that relationship. I’ve spent more than a decade studying it. Suffice to say that’s not going to happen for a very, very long time. Especially if the US keeps pushing its asinine foreign policy towards both.

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 10:58 utc | 268

regarding the next 13th sanctions package, i noticed that theres thinkgs like:

“It is also appropriate to include on that list [along with more Russian firms] certain other entities in third countries that indirectly support Russia’s military and industrial complex … by trading in such components,” the document reads.

that part in bold. shouldnt it say “military industrial complex”? is the “and” a misquote? if not, then china, india, and every other country should notice how the eu is actievly sabotaging another countrys industry base that does not contribute to military, and that something like this will come for them if they dont put their foot down now.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 13 2024 11:00 utc | 269

You don’t know that relationship the way I know that relationship. I’ve spent more than a decade studying it. Suffice to say that’s not going to happen for a very, very long time. Especially if the US keeps pushing its asinine foreign policy towards both.
Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 10:58 utc | 268
Anecdotal evidence is not proof of the validity of an argument. What I said still stands, Russian assets are not Chinese ones despite their good relationship. China doesn’t get oil for free nor Russia can afford to sell it lower than it does right now.

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 11:11 utc | 270

”And let me be clear about the current situation. Any relativization of NATO’s guarantee of mutual assistance is irresponsible and dangerous and is solely in the interests of Russia. Nobody can be allowed to gamble with Europe’s security,” -adolf scholz

i just love it when our unelected idiots spout poop like this. ~40% or so of the european continent is russia alone (i may have to look up the correct numbers), but they always exclude russia when the talk about “europe”.
its the wordplays like this and the underlying lie thats often repeated that make the sheeple so numb to facts. like the word “lobbying”. we dont have corruption, only that lobbying is exactly that.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 13 2024 11:13 utc | 271

#270
” Russia can afford to sell it lower than it does right now. ”
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Russia could afford it!
But why make Arab states enemies? THEY can NOT afford it given their much fewer reserves.
Ergo, they already ensure the high price. Russia benefits from it.
Please always think in context… some here probably have dementia and sometimes write the opposite of what they said 3 or 5 weeks ago

Posted by: Ossi | Feb 13 2024 11:30 utc | 272

#271
Absolutely right !
Most people here have no idea how big Russia is!
Putin flew from Moscow to New York faster than from Moscow to its eastern border.
But as I said…many letters find Russia with difficulty on the map have NEVER been to Russia (Ukraine) but they know everything.
If you put maps of Russia and the USA next to each other (same scale) and be shocked…

Posted by: ossi | Feb 13 2024 11:34 utc | 273

What happens if relationships between China and Russia sour in the future?
Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 10:48 utc | 265
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Relax. The USA is doing its damndest to make sure that never happens.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 13 2024 11:37 utc | 274

Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 10:48 utc | 265
Same goes for us or maybe it it’s worst.
US, while having the biggest oil resources in the world is a net oil importer, meaning that having access to the resource doesn’t mean Tha you can use it.

Posted by: Mario | Feb 13 2024 11:42 utc | 275

Selidovo training grounds has reportedly been struck with cluster munitions. AFU reserves to be deployed to Avdeevka were apparently grouped there.
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1757342770916716597

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 13 2024 11:43 utc | 276

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 12 2024 20:03 utc | 184

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Feb 12 2024 19:55 utc | 181
Not sure about that. But one might assume those train cars could form a structure for underground shelters. I.e. dig a trench and sink them in.
Whatever defensive lines they are building are most likely not for Ukraine per se, they are, in case, Nato decides to attempt sending a force into Ukraine. At this point the they are so high on their own propaganda that they might actually try to send troops into eastern Ukraine.

Why bother to answer — and then in such a stupid way ?
a simple check of the 2 pictures shows that there is summer –> vegetation !!!
BUT a new meme / fake is born and spread !

Posted by: ghiwen | Feb 13 2024 11:45 utc | 277

Zur größe Russlands
Wir sind tatsächlich ca 6 Stunden lang mit Tempo 90 km/h an einem einzigen Weizenfeld entlang gefahren, nicht eine Lücke dazwischen…und das war als Putin gerade mal ca 3 Jahre an der Macht war.
Unser Ziel damals, ein Intustriekomplex wie sich herausstellte AUCH für Rüstung.
Eigener Wohnkomplex in der größe einer mittleren Stadt, eigenes Stahlwerk, eigene Steinkohleabbau, 2 eigene Kraftwerke,vom Bäcker bis hin zu Wäscherei, Flugplatz und eine Garnision für ca 12 000 Soldaten.
Hermetische Abrieglung bekann bereits ca 150 km vor dem Komplex..und wurde alle 15 bis 20 km intensiver..
Aber…das beindruckendeste waren wie oben gesagt die riesigen Felder die im Westen einschlieslich USA in dieser Größe noch keiner gesehen hat. Ich sah Schweine Ställe 3 Etagen hoch, und davon ca 35 Gebäude.
Kurz : In Russland herschen andere Größen Verhältnisse.

Posted by: Ossi | Feb 13 2024 11:48 utc | 278

Several Iskander’s and Smerch in Selidovo, potentially thousand(s) casualties.

Update:
Russian TG channel Ruspanorama reports:
The situation in Selidovo after a massive attack on the Ukrainian Armed Forces:
The city is completely blocked for entry and exit;
Many ambulances and corpse trucks.
According to available data, the AFU military leadership is completely at a loss.
The number of losses is in the hundreds.
According to preliminary data, it was the 3rd assault brigade “Azov”, which was supposed to go to release the Avdiivka garrison, that was targeted.
RF used several Iskander OTRK missiles with a cassette part and added the Smerch MLRS, also with a cassette part. The SBU is raiding the city in search of our spotters.
https://t.me/geromanat/19748

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 13 2024 11:48 utc | 279

Sorry !!
.
On the size of Russia
We actually drove for about 6 hours at 90 km/h along a single wheat field, not a gap in between… and that was when Putin had only been in power for about 3 years.
Our goal back then, an industrial complex as it turned out ALSO for armaments.
Own residential complex the size of a medium-sized city, own steelworks, own hard coal mining, 2 own power plants, from a bakery to a laundry, airfield and a garrison for around 12,000 soldiers.
Hermetic sealing was already around 150 km in front of the complex… and became more intense every 15 to 20 km…
But…the most impressive thing, as I said above, were the huge fields that no one in the West, including the USA, has ever seen of this size. I saw pig stalls 3 floors high, and about 35 of them buildings.
In short: In Russia the size ratios are different.

Posted by: Ossi | Feb 13 2024 11:49 utc | 280

24.03.2022 (Thu)
11:15 Ukraine has launched the first proceedings for the Russian road fleet nationalization. They’ll seize over a million dollars worth of rail cars
Last week, Ukrainian Railways officially announced that it would begin nationalizing the rolling stock of Russian companies located on the territory of Ukraine. It is estimated that there may currently be over 15,000 wagons on Ukrainian railways. The Bureau for Economic Security of Ukraine (BESU) announced that on their initiative, a procedure for the nationalization of 29 tankers belonging to the Gazpromtrans fleet had already been initiated.

ref ==> https://www.railtarget.eu/technologies-and-infrastructure/war-in-ukraine-railway-monitoring-1888.html

Someone is confused about a temporary staging yard for the collection and repatriation of stolen state assets.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 13 2024 11:55 utc | 281

Anecdotal evidence is not proof of the validity of an argument. What I said still stands, Russian assets are not Chinese ones despite their good relationship. China doesn’t get oil for free nor Russia can afford to sell it lower than it does right now.
Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 11:11 utc | 270
You can google my books. A James M is in Google scholar, with certain keywords you’d probably find me and my publications. But if you don’t want to take my word for it (shocked face) just think about it logically for a second.
Look at what happened after the SMO started, sanctions on Russia, Nordstream blown up, the EU blocking Russian gas, or making noises to that effect. So who does Russia sell its fossil fuels to? The West doesn’t want it. It doesn’t do any one any good sitting in the ground.
Why there’s China and even India, they’ll buy those fossil fuels. It’s a built in market for Russia. As long as the US and EU play these games with Russia, China’s got a spigot.
Also, you should try to understand how economics works. Prices are set by supply and demand. It’s called elasticity. So Russia has the supply and China has the demand. Of course Russia isn’t the only supplier, Kazakhstan has major deposits of natural gas, and they’re an amenable neighbor of China’s.
So, yeah not worried about China’s “lack” of fossil fuels or other natural resources. As I said China has large deposits of rare earths, and maybe you don’t think about the future, but I guarantee that China does. A 5,000 year old civilization plays and plans the long game. Capiche?

Posted by: James M | Feb 13 2024 11:56 utc | 282

huge fields that no one in the West, including the USA, has ever seen
Posted by: Ossi | Feb 13 2024 11:49 utc | 280

You are apparently unaware of modern mechanized agriculture that seeks to replace farming with factories.
https://youtu.be/uFKsy3Nhx9o

Posted by: too scents | Feb 13 2024 12:01 utc | 283

unimperator | Feb 13 2024 11:48 utc | 279
Interesting that after several years of concentrations of forces being hit, they again concentrate forces. I guess the new general knows what he is doing? Perhaps he does after all work for Russia? Considering he has long been estranged from his Russian family, more likely completely incompetent with his only competency being in rising to a high position in an utterly corrupt country.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 13 2024 12:09 utc | 284

And now the pressure is set… Zaluhzny justified in his rage… ..he can do it better he thinks…

Posted by: UWDude | Feb 13 2024 12:19 utc | 285

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Feb 13 2024 0:37 utc | 220

….Where did the resources go? Physically, they went to buying megayachts, private jets, limousine parks, mansions on private islands and other totally wasteful consumption for the oligarchs. Meanwhile the brain drain towards the West has been massive too. In Soviet times all that went into overall human capital development, the military, and ambitious projects such as space exploration (which were, of course, also always directly tied to the military). That’s the difference…”

the primitive CIPSO agent again …….
for example :
https://www.awaragroup.com/blog/russian-life-expectancy-surges-to-74-years/
https://www.awaragroup.com/blog/all-the-amazing-airports-of-stagnating-russia/
https://www.mondayfeelings.com/russian-metro-stations

Posted by: ghiwen | Feb 13 2024 12:23 utc | 286

In other words, spectacular attacks, making it appear syrskyi to be completely incompetent. An illusion of control that never was.
A war across ukraine… Devastating,.. a war held on contact lines, static… The rest of the country, untouched.
But, it takes time, waiting for the political jenga tower to build up just right. Then pull the piece, political collapse, and a whole country, besides a 1000 km scar.
The zaluhzny firing was the greatest victory. That, is 5th gen war. That, is 5d chess.
Get ready to start guzzling the haterade, nafos and Tsispos.
And, even though that interview was nothing like any other, with the strange 30 minute history lesson to start, and all, it too was seismic. Not because anything Putin said, not because anything Carlson did. It’s just about the alignment of gravity.

Posted by: UWDude | Feb 13 2024 12:31 utc | 287

Posted by: James M. | Feb 13 2024 6:56 utc | 246

I can somewhat agree on other arguments but China having ample natural resources?? This is ill informed at best.
Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 6:44 utc | 23
China has the biggest deposits of rare earths in the world. The future is not going to be tied to fossil fuels, no the future is in rare earths. Think more broadly, not narrow.

James M. , why try to answer this stupid barb honestly ?
someone, who don’t understand that you are comparing china with japan ; not china with the “world” — who is twisting your post — is not worth it

Posted by: ghiwen | Feb 13 2024 12:49 utc | 288

281
Russia had lost a lot of railway wagons many hundreds I think c2014 had seized wagons in Donbass area used to export coal… or Russian good trains that had gone there to load up with coal .Today in daily mail UK is an article re a rail line on the border 20 miles long 2100 carriages that Russia is to use as a mobile defensive barrier against Ukraine ..these apparently seized from areas Russian army is currently in occupation….hmmm interesting.Maybe to be wired up with explosives or filled with concrete ???????????

Posted by: Jo | Feb 13 2024 12:51 utc | 289

Soviet Sci-Fi of the 1960s most definitely didn’t imagine the 20002, 2010s and 2020s looking they way things actually unfolded in socioeconomic terms.
Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Feb 13 2024 7:06 utc | 249
Nobody has bells in their noses, nobody genuflects while saying “Ku”, there are no propellered flying garbage cans, a d Russians use rubles i stead of matches as currency.
Russia is nothing like Kin DzaDza, er go, Putin is a traitor. Why if shadowbanned ran Russia these past 26
years, whole planets could be bought
for 8 rubles, but there would be nobody to spit on.

Posted by: UWDude | Feb 13 2024 12:51 utc | 290

France (1.9 %)
Montenegro (1.87 %)
North Macedonia (1.87 %)
Bulgaria (1.84 %)
Croatia (1.79 %)
Albania (1.76 %)
Netherlands (1.7 %)
Norway (1.67 %)
Denmark (1.65 %)
Germany (1.57 %)
Czech Republic (1.5 %)
Portugal (1.48 %)
Italy (1.46 %)
Canada (1.38 %)
Slovenia (1.35 %)
Turkey (1.31 %)
Spain (1.26 %)
Belgium (1.26 %)
Nato countries not paying their2 %

Posted by: Jo | Feb 13 2024 13:12 utc | 291

A massive missile attack on an Ukrainian training grounds in Selidovo few tens of kms fro Avdeevka, up to 1,500 potential victims, the troops were going to beef up the Avdeevka units, the place has been shut down, nobody can leave, the Ukrainian spooks are searching for those that directed the missiles:
https://rg.ru/2024/02/13/voennaia-hronika-armiia-rf-udarila-po-poligonu-v-selidovo-vo-vremia-postroeniia-vsu.html
You can google translate, it’s short.

Posted by: Baron | Feb 13 2024 13:14 utc | 292

I am not sure that countries sending stuff to Ukraine have been fully reimbursed from the EU Fund for Peace thingy … ????

Posted by: Jo | Feb 13 2024 13:15 utc | 293

In addition to Selidovo, another similar strike has been reported in Konstantinovka from where groups were also to be sent to Avdeevka. No further details.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 13 2024 13:21 utc | 294

Of Selidovo.
1. Of course, there are no 1500 dead there. This is about the same as it was at the training ground at the time of impact. So far, there is no objective data on exactly how many of them were killed and how many were wounded. So far, we can say that the enemy has suffered serious one-time losses in manpower – one of the largest over the past year.
2. The fact that they were counting on the destruction of manpower is evidenced by a cascade of strikes, including the use of cluster munitions. This may be one of the most effective cluster munition incidents of the entire war.
3. The enemy, of course, will look for those residents in the territories occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine who brought in, since such strikes, as a rule, are associated with both the work of technical reconnaissance and additional guidance on the ground, so it is not surprising that the SBU is looking for who helped to direct.
4. The enemy will traditionally keep the losses secret and underestimated, and they will try to spread the total number over time. Specialists tracking obituaries are already at a low start. I would not rule out that some of the corpses will be kept for some time in refrigerators or even declared “missing in action near Avdiivka”. And then you don’t have to pay money, and you don’t have to admit big numbers.
t.me/boris_rozhin/112783

Posted by: Selidovo | Feb 13 2024 13:47 utc | 295

Nobody has bells in their noses, nobody genuflects while saying “Ku”, there are no propellered flying garbage cans, a d Russians use rubles i stead of matches as currency.
Russia is nothing like Kin DzaDza, er go, Putin is a traitor. Why if shadowbanned ran Russia these past 26
years, whole planets could be bought
for 8 rubles, but there would be nobody to spit on.
Posted by: UWDude | Feb 13 2024 12:51 utc | 289

Way to show off as someone who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Regarding Kin-dza-dza:
1) It’s from the mid- to late 1980s, not the 1960s. Sure, it is dystopian and everything, and represents a marked change from the mood of the 1960s, but that was true for Soviet Sci-Fi as a whole, and I was not talking about the 1980s.
2) It does not even take place on Earth, but somewhere very very far in the universe
3) It is set in the then present, not the then future
Please allow for the possibility that I know better than you what I grew up reading and dreaming about.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Feb 13 2024 13:53 utc | 296

Hi!
I see that the establishment uniparty in the U.S. Senate has disposed of any pretense in “helping out the situation at the U.S. southern border” and is pushing a pure geopolitical military aid package forward to vote. We’ll see if the U.S. House of Representatives caves or not.
I should be doing better keeping track at the money that’s been directed towards the Kiev government, but if this 60 billion passes the U.S. Congress, has anyone been keeping track of what the total will be to the Ukies since early 2022, $250,000,000,000 in USD? That’s just a number I’m putting up, I don’t know how close it is.
I know most people here don’t like Trump, and I’m under no illusion that he can change the establishment core that pulls the money strings in the U.S.A. fostering their hostility against Russia, but I find it interesting that Trump’s 1st impeachment was all wrapped up in Ukie land, including withholding, at least for a while, military aid to the regime. The summer and fall of 2019 was 2 1/2 years before the events of Feb. 2022. Most people here don’t get it but its obvious to me and some that most of the anti-Trump thing has always been because he (sort of) threw monkey wrenches into the establishment’s geopolitical game of hostility against Russia.

Posted by: DakotaRog | Feb 13 2024 13:55 utc | 297

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 12 2024 16:36 utc | 157
“Although the yearly Russian Zapad exercises are highly scripted, they do focus on the rapid, strategic redeployment of divisions. The Ukrainians might find themselves a target of that redeployment, if they focus on holding Avdivka by way of a counter-attack. In fact, Russia could possibly be using Avdivka to bait the trap, with the Russian High Command waiting to open a new front, or exploit an existing one. The Bakhmut operation, resulting in the losing 20+ brigades of some of their best troops meant any future counter-offensive had already been partially defeated before it even started.”
Posted by: Milites | Feb 12 2024 20:39 utc | 195
Great post-I think they are using Avdivka as a trap as the Ukranian reserves are used up such that any reinforcement from the Ukrainian side opens up new sections of the thier line for Russian expoitation.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 13 2024 13:56 utc | 298

follow up\more re #279 11:48 utc: and #293 13:21

At 11:30 [Local], an Iskander missile strike with cluster munitions was carried out on the military training ground of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Salidovo. The strikes continued for 20 minutes.
At the time of the strike, there were up to 1500 forcibly mobilized Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel on the training ground.
Later, after the start of gathering and evacuation of the wounded/survivors, the missile strike with cluster munitions was repeated.
There are also reports of prolonged detonation of unexploded ordnance.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/101409

#Inside
Our source in the General Staff said that Syrsky gave the order to suppress any information on losses at the Selidovo training ground, the city was the main transshipment base for the Armed Forces of Ukraine reserves, which were collected for the release of Avdiivka.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/21640

A seperate accumulation attack overnight in addition to Selidovo and Konstantinovka

According to preliminary information, up to 100 Ukrainian soldiers have died as a result of a powerful missile strike on their deployment site in the city of Chasov Yar.
The city is a key location for the Ukrainian Armed Forces grouping in Avdeevka
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/101406

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 13 2024 13:57 utc | 299

What happens if relationships between China and Russia sour in the future?
Posted by: Modern Stoic | Feb 13 2024 10:48 utc | 265
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Relax. The USA is doing its damndest to make sure that never happens.
Posted by: malenkov | Feb 13 2024 11:37 utc | 274

The cold hard physical reality is that:
1) An area of China where some 300-400M people lives and where most of the food is produced will be flooded in the next couple centuries by sea level rise
2) Long before that process is finished the world will be experiencing severe shortages of all sorts of critical resources
3) Siberia is sparsely populated, mostly high ground, very resource rich, and with the climate warming will become much more fertile. Not just Siberia, this pattern extends further southwest into northern Kazakhstan and the European portions of the Russian black earth belt
4) China has ten times the population of Russia, and now is technologically ahead too in most areas.
So for now relationships are good, but never in history when that kind of situation has arisen have they stayed good for very long.

Posted by: shаdοwbanned | Feb 13 2024 14:01 utc | 300