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February 11, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-045
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Ukraine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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“The fate of the Ukraine will be decided in Moscow and Washington” Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 11 2024 14:12 utc | 1 Überschallraketen werden nur noch in geringen Mengen hergestellt, diese werden nun aus Nordkorea importiert. an interview on sanctions, now in round 13, and other propaganda shenanigans with an expert from oxford university. in german. Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 11 2024 14:13 utc | 2 Analysis why does Sylenski disappear from the entire leadership? Posted by: ossi | Feb 11 2024 14:27 utc | 3 The issue with Ukraine negotiating remains the same: Zelensky won’t survive without the war. Most likely the Ukrainian state won’t survive without the war. And the US is not going to want the reputational damage of backing down. Biden’s most likely path to get out of Ukraine is to just stop funding it and blame that on republicans. Posted by: Lex | Feb 11 2024 14:53 utc | 4 Ukraine Weekly Update, 9th February: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-1ca Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Feb 11 2024 15:01 utc | 5 ” Meanwhile the developing Brusilov type offensive is starting to slowly snowball. The exponential divergence of attrition warfare is also starting to show. Massive reinforcement to Chasov Yar is being reported, but Avdeevka needs massive reinforcement too. ” Posted by: ossi | Feb 11 2024 15:03 utc | 6 In Germany huge rush on investments into Ukraine has started. Posted by: Falco | Feb 11 2024 15:12 utc | 7 7 Posted by: Falco | Feb 11 2024 15:16 utc | 8 Posted by: Falco | Feb 11 2024 15:12 utc | 7 Posted by: ossi | Feb 11 2024 15:38 utc | 9 Obviously Ukraine is toast. The slaughter will continue so as to avoid having the demonratic ‘party’ shamed prior to the fraud fest to be unleashed in November. It’s becoming increasingly clear that Poland is likely to be sacrificed next. Posted by: Robert Hope | Feb 11 2024 15:42 utc | 10 Macron postponed a visit to Ukraine for security reasons, Challenges writes Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 11 2024 15:49 utc | 11 Posted by: Robert Hope | Feb 11 2024 15:42 utc | 10 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 11 2024 15:50 utc | 12 9 Posted by: Falco | Feb 11 2024 15:53 utc | 13 Croatian newspaper: Posted by: ossi | Feb 11 2024 16:01 utc | 15 There wont be any kinzhal hits. Posted by: ossi | Feb 11 2024 16:06 utc | 16 World of NATO supporters crumbling, they are ready for all out war — French politician Posted by: chop | Feb 11 2024 16:08 utc | 17
my uneducated bet would be some more biolabs among longrange missile sites, and some “abm” installations. for defense, of course. Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 11 2024 16:11 utc | 18 arrogance has kneecapped Israel and Ukraine Posted by: ossi | Feb 11 2024 16:12 utc | 19 my friend tom shared this 7 minute video.. i highly recommend it released the past 24 hours.. Posted by: james | Feb 11 2024 16:13 utc | 20 We have now reached the “pants shitting” stage for Borrell, Macaroon and other Eurotrash. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 11 2024 16:23 utc | 21 16 Posted by: SlowSoft | Feb 11 2024 16:28 utc | 22 Posted by: Robert Hope | Feb 11 2024 15:42 utc | 10
Russia cannot be a campaign issue. With this, Trump immediately loses. But the issue of war will we will have often in the election campaign. Posted by: theo | Feb 11 2024 16:30 utc | 23 Posted by: SlowSoft | Feb 11 2024 16:28 utc | 22 Posted by: Ossi | Feb 11 2024 16:40 utc | 24 I just had a several hours-long conversation with someone who believes Russia is the root of ALL evil taking place in the modern world. Posted by: Mom C | Feb 11 2024 16:55 utc | 25 @ Mom C | Feb 11 2024 16:55 utc | 25 Posted by: james | Feb 11 2024 17:01 utc | 26 @23 Posted by: paddy | Feb 11 2024 17:10 utc | 27 24 Posted by: SlowSoft | Feb 11 2024 17:11 utc | 28 #28 Posted by: Ossi | Feb 11 2024 17:16 utc | 29
i find this interesting. “moving” into ukraine. Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 11 2024 17:24 utc | 30 #28 Posted by: ossi | Feb 11 2024 17:27 utc | 31 * Carlsons interview with Putin (the fanbase, viewer from TC are more opposition) Posted by: KitaySupporter | Feb 11 2024 17:28 utc | 32 https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/special-anniversary-report-the-future Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2024 17:28 utc | 33 “Only reason why our company has selected this route. Posted by: g wiltek | Feb 11 2024 17:50 utc | 34 Posted by: KitaySupporter | Feb 11 2024 17:28 utc | 32 Posted by: theo | Feb 11 2024 17:58 utc | 35 Posted by: SlowSoft | Feb 11 2024 17:11 utc | 28 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 11 2024 18:02 utc | 36 31 Posted by: SlowSoft | Feb 11 2024 18:19 utc | 37
Posted by: Down South | Feb 11 2024 18:23 utc | 38 james@20….I heard Dima talking about that in one of his updates, interesting video, cool little surface Drones….oddly, I was watching movie trailer, and spy guy puts this little sub type drone in the water, off it goes…..so I’m thinking, shit if they really had those…and there they are, real deal. With Brit factories, set up in British ports, in Odessa and Nikoliov(sp), oh yeah, the Brits set that all up last week, see there’s my problem right there, the Russians knew those fuckers were there all along. So here’s the Brits taking the Micky out of their Russian ‘partners’ sinking Russian naval ships, like really taking the Micky, wouldn’t be surprised if the Moskov wasn’t test droned. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 11 2024 18:23 utc | 39
https://t.me/rezident_ua/21610 Posted by: Down South | Feb 11 2024 18:30 utc | 40
https://t.me/rezident_ua/21602
Posted by: Down South | Feb 11 2024 18:33 utc | 41 All the Ukraine battle-rattle here may soon be a thing of the past. Posted by: Jerr | Feb 11 2024 18:43 utc | 42 The most astonishing fact about Western culture is the broad and deep acceptance of lying. It sometimes feels like I’m the main character in “They Live” with a magic pair of sunglasses. Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 11 2024 18:44 utc | 43 Regarding the 50% investment support of USAID: Posted by: Zet | Feb 11 2024 18:48 utc | 44 Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 11 2024 18:44 utc | 43 Posted by: Zet | Feb 11 2024 18:51 utc | 45 I think TC played the not so educated one … ask your self why he be or played this not so prepared Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 11 2024 18:53 utc | 46 @Eightman | 43 Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 11 2024 18:56 utc | 47 The most astonishing fact about Western culture is the broad and deep acceptance of lying. It sometimes feels like I’m the main character in “They Live” with a magic pair of sunglasses. Posted by: Oliver Krug | Feb 11 2024 18:58 utc | 48 reply to 47 Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 11 2024 19:22 utc | 49 wagelaborer | Feb 11 2024 18:53 utc | 46 Posted by: theo | Feb 11 2024 19:24 utc | 50 @theo Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 11 2024 19:28 utc | 51
From inception to its metastasis globally, the fundamental building block of capital is physical violence and lies; now indeed war and lying are at some peak. Posted by: SlowDL | Feb 11 2024 19:40 utc | 52
Apparently, 92% of 163000 voters on X thinks that Putin was telling the truth on Ukraine Posted by: BD | Feb 11 2024 20:01 utc | 53 After due deliberation, my conclusion on the Zaluzhny shake up is this: Posted by: Honzo | Feb 11 2024 20:15 utc | 54 @theo Posted by: Honzo | Feb 11 2024 20:19 utc | 55
Posted by: Down South | Feb 11 2024 20:25 utc | 56 The important part of changes from Zalnutzy to Sursky, The Butcher of Ukraine: Posted by: Paul from Norway | Feb 11 2024 20:28 utc | 57
Might well turn out to be true, although I never thought focus is much of an empire’s forte. I linked the Zionist acceleration of the genocide to the Nazi’s demolition in Ukraine, as the Arab front is thought to be the weaker of any other. Posted by: SlowDL | Feb 11 2024 20:31 utc | 58 The UK–Ukraine Defence Partnership Posted by: todd | Feb 11 2024 21:34 utc | 59 Posted by: paddy | Feb 11 2024 17:10 utc | 27
While a 60s icon, Grace was born in 1939, and some here at the bar might be amused to read that when inebriated she had little to no internal censor functioning. Which led to an interesting incident in Germany. 😉 Roger Waters has a muse! 😆 Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 11 2024 21:40 utc | 60 Ukraines new military commander wants to hold adveeka at all costs. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Feb 11 2024 21:43 utc | 61 Is NATO, especially Britain, dropping hints of entering the fray so as to keep Russia from putting more troops at the front? If mostly a bluff, how soon could it turn into reality if Russia did decide that the AFU had now shot its bolt by going all in* with the attacks of its new commander in chief, and that therefore the Russian coalition could dispense with maintaining deep reserves, everywhere? Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 11 2024 21:52 utc | 62 1. “And the US is not going to want the reputational damage of backing down” Posted by: kupkee | Feb 11 2024 21:59 utc | 63 Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 11 2024 21:52 utc | 62 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 11 2024 22:03 utc | 64 One information to be confirmed: railway leading to the South part of Avdyeyevka has been cut in the North-West. If true, everyone can imagine the consequences. Posted by: Naive | Feb 11 2024 22:06 utc | 65 Semi-OT but of strategic interest – conversation between Steve Hsu, US physics professor who’s also worked in China, and TP Huang, a Chinese-American computer scientist and technology analyst. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 11 2024 22:09 utc | 66 d) it was very foolish of the US to push Russia and China together. Posted by: Naive | Feb 11 2024 22:20 utc | 67 All the Ukraine battle-rattle here may soon be a thing of the past. Posted by: kupkee | Feb 11 2024 22:20 utc | 68 Posted by: kupkee | Feb 11 2024 22:20 utc | 68 Posted by: Naive | Feb 11 2024 22:26 utc | 69
Posted by: Naive | Feb 11 2024 22:26 utc | 69 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 11 2024 22:33 utc | 70 Posted by: ossi | Feb 11 2024 16:12 utc | 19
LMFAO, M’Kay. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2024 22:36 utc | 71 Posted by: Honzo | Feb 11 2024 20:19 utc | 55 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 11 2024 22:39 utc | 72 “The long predicted Disease X” Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 11 2024 22:50 utc | 73 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 11 2024 22:03 utc | 64 Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 11 2024 22:55 utc | 74 Tucker Carlson has been threatened by the Empire. There is a very real threat that he will be Assange’d or Seth Rich’d. Posted by: Honzo | Feb 11 2024 23:06 utc | 75 Might well turn out to be true, although I never thought focus is much of an empire’s forte. I linked the Zionist acceleration of the genocide to the Nazi’s demolition in Ukraine, as the Arab front is thought to be the weaker of any other. Posted by: Honzo | Feb 11 2024 23:21 utc | 76 Not sure if others have advanced this speculation but here’s my 0.000002 btc worth. Africa is rapidly being close to the US. Posted by: Afro | Feb 12 2024 0:56 utc | 79 Latin America, on the other hand, is not a place that Russia or China can project power effectively. Posted by: James M. | Feb 12 2024 1:01 utc | 80 Some videos for today. Posted by: Nate | Feb 12 2024 1:33 utc | 81 Re: Posted by: ossi | Feb 11 2024 16:12 utc | 19
This reads like a lot of hopium. Posted by: Julian | Feb 12 2024 1:39 utc | 82 If Germany is permanently and significantly weakend economically, while Russia remains intact and a nuclear superpower, how does that help Germany in the middle term, let alone the long run? Posted by: Ludo | Feb 12 2024 2:27 utc | 83 # 11 APPOLYON….well..well… did -Macarooni- find out -Lloyd Austin get visit by Dr.KINZHAL on 01/03/2024 in the glorious Kyiv ???….. @Posted by: Julian | Feb 12 2024 1:39 utc | 82 @Posted by: Ludo | Feb 12 2024 2:27 utc | 83 YetAnotherAnon | Feb 11 2024 22:09 utc | 66 Posted by: Hankster | Feb 12 2024 2:40 utc | 87 Re: Posted by: Down South | Feb 11 2024 18:33 utc | 41
Not the case at all. Posted by: Julian | Feb 12 2024 2:52 utc | 88 Did you mean closed? Posted by: Honzo | Feb 12 2024 3:03 utc | 89 As the hero of the West (Zelensky) the US & UK will obviously cover this up and blame it on the Russians. Posted by: Honzo | Feb 12 2024 3:13 utc | 90 Posted by: james | Feb 11 2024 16:13 utc | 20 Posted by: Jerr | Feb 11 2024 18:43 utc | 42 @Eighthman | Feb 11 2024 19:22 utc | 49 Posted by: Paranaense | Feb 12 2024 4:28 utc | 93 Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 11 2024 19:22 utc | 49 Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Feb 12 2024 4:29 utc | 94 Latin America, on the other hand, is not a place that Russia or China can project power effectively. Posted by: Honzo | Feb 12 2024 5:10 utc | 95 Trump: “The US could lose billions if Russia makes a deal with Ukraine without the participation of the Americans” Posted by: the pessimist | Feb 12 2024 5:16 utc | 96 https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/special-anniversary-report-the-future Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 12 2024 5:35 utc | 97 New on Geopolitiek in context: “U.S.-led covert regime change operations: shockingly routine”, written in English. Posted by: Paul-Robert | Feb 12 2024 6:01 utc | 98 Re: Posted by: Inki | Feb 12 2024 3:50 utc | 91
There’s no way the SMO is anywhere close to ending – the Russians don’t even control Donbas yet – let alone Odessa and the Black Sea coast! Posted by: Julian | Feb 12 2024 6:27 utc | 99 The same material logic that prevents the US from defeating China in the Taiwan straits makes a Chinese attempt to, for instance, protect Nicaragua from the US a non-starter. Posted by: James M | Feb 12 2024 6:47 utc | 100 |
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