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February 2, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-038
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Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation (as of February 2, 2024)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to conduct a special military operation.
In the Kupyansk direction, the active actions of the units of the “Western” grouping of troops reflected five attacks by the assault groups of the 30th, 44th mechanized and 95th airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Terny of the Donetsk People’s Republic and Sinkovka of the Kharkiv region.
The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to up to 45 servicemen, two pickups, as well as a self-propelled artillery installation “Gvozdika”.
In the Krasnolimansk direction, units of the Center group of troops improved the position along the front edge and, with the support of artillery, repelled three attacks by assault groups of the 60th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of the settlement of Yampolovka of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
The enemy’s losses amounted to 270 military personnel, a tank, three armored combat vehicles, seven cars, a self-propelled artillery installation “Carnation” and an M119 gun manufactured by the United States.
In the Donetsk direction, units of the “Southern” group of troops occupied more advantageous lines and positions, and also inflicted fire damage on the manpower and equipment of the 22nd mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 114th Brigade of the Defense Forces in the areas of the settlements of Kleshcheyevka and Krasnoe of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
In the area of the settlement of Belogorovka, Donetsk People’s Republic, two attacks by assault groups of the 81st Airmobile Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were repelled.
The enemy lost up to 290 soldiers, three armored combat vehicles, including one M113 armored personnel carrier made in the USA and 17 vehicles.
During the counter-battery struggle, the following were hit:
the M777 artillery system manufactured in the USA, the Msta-B howitzer, the D-20 cannon, the Gvozdika self-propelled artillery installation, the D-30 howitzer and the Grad MLRS combat vehicle. In addition, four field ammunition depots were destroyed.
In the South Donetsk direction, units of the Vostok group of forces, in cooperation with aviation, inflicted fire damage on units of the 58th Mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 127th Brigade of the Air Defense in the area of the village of Urozhdnoye of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
The enemy’s losses amounted to more than 100 soldiers, two vehicles, a self-propelled artillery installation “Gvozdika” and two D-30 guns.
In the Zaporozhye direction, units of the Russian group of troops, with the support of aviation and artillery, defeated clusters of manpower and equipment of the 118th mechanized, 128th mountain assault and 82nd airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Workino, Nesteryanka and Verbovoye of the Zaporozhye region.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces lost up to 55 servicemen killed and wounded, three armored combat vehicles, two pickups and a D-30 howitzer.
Units of the 38th Marine Brigade were defeated in the Kherson direction.
The enemy’s losses amounted to up to 35 military personnel, a tank, two vehicles, an M777 artillery system manufactured by the United States and two self-propelled artillery installations “Gvozdika”
▫️ Operational and tactical aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, missile troops and artillery groups of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation hit the ammunition depot of the 110th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as manpower and military equipment in 102 districts.
Two multiple rocket launchers of the Alder multiple launch rocket system were shot down by air defense means.
In addition, 40 Ukrainian UAVs were destroyed in the areas of the settlements of Berestove, Kharkiv region, Novoselovka, Donetsk People’s Republic, Novaya Mayachka, Kherson region, Semenovka and Rabodino, Zaporizhia region.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 568 aircraft, 265 helicopters, 11620 unmanned aerial vehicles, 457 anti-aircraft missile systems, 14,888 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,215 multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles, 7,946 field artillery and mortars, as well as 18,156 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.
Posted by: rumod report | Feb 2 2024 16:55 utc | 1
Rumod report @1
In the reported losses there appear both Gvozdika and Carnation. These are, in fact the same vehicle, one with the Russian name, the other is the English translation of the same.
Posted by: AJ | Feb 2 2024 17:14 utc | 2
@1
That is an absolutely staggering amount of hardware that Russia has destroyed. It’s hard to believe that Ukraine ever even possessed such armaments.
Posted by: Gnome Sane | Feb 2 2024 17:22 utc | 3
Ukraine Weekly Update, 2nd Feb 2024: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-cf4
Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Feb 2 2024 17:24 utc | 4
Today in Russia is the Day of Military Glory marking the victory at Stalingrad. Putin today is in Tula a historical region noted for its gunsmiths and modern components of Russia’s MIC. A forum dedicated to the day, “Everything for Victory!”, was held there which Putin attended, but the transcripts aren’t yet complete for me to translate and provide English copy. Putin noted Tula’s vast level of support for Russia:
“From the bottom of their hearts they help our guys, who are waging a sacred, just battle against the new edition of neo-Nazism, they are fighting for Russia, for truth, for freedom, for the future of our country.”
The above tells us what the trolls are for, are defending, and by extension what the West is–“the new edition of neo-Nazism.”
The actions of the EU made against the interests of the nations that compose it show its totalitarian nature and the need for its members to abandon it so they can breathe. The various protests need to alter their focus if they want the boot to be removed from their faces.
⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Front #Summary for 2 Feb 2024 by 19:57⚡️
🔹In #Kherson Direction, it was reported today that the AFU were spotted west of their foothold in #Krynki. I would not regard this as an advance. It looks more like a move from the ruins to a more suitable hiding place. Now our military is driving this group back to the centre. According to reports from the field, the AFU’s numbers on our coast have not increased.
🔹In #Zaporozhye Direction, the AFU have stepped up their attacks in the #Rabotino and #Verbovoye area. Fresh reserves are being brought into the battle. Ours note a lower level of training. The counterattacks had no success, while our forces pushed the AFU back from positions west of #Verbovoye.
🔹In #SouthDonetsk Direction, our army is advancing from #Maryinka north of the ponds. Near #Sladkoye, where we advanced under losses due to drone strikes, our military took regardless of a heavy battle control of an important AFU stronghold on the heights. Thus, the bridgehead for attacks on #Novomikhaylovka and #Ugledar was expanded. The courage of ours, of course, does not remove the problems with electronic warfare.
🔹In #Donetsk Direction, our forces have noticeably advanced on the #Avdeyevka front. While the AFU was throwing its main forces, restraining our army’s attacks in the south, ours took advantage of the moment. With a strike on the northern flank, our forces drove the enemy out of the dachas north off the Goluby (Blue) Lakes. They advanced southwards, through the forest and reached the next dachas. A total advance of about 1.5 km allowed our forces to enter the private sector of #Avdeyevka from the north. On the southern flank east of #Opytnoye, our fighters advanced along the forest belt, approaching the powerful AFU fortification “Cheburashka” on the Ring Road and on the territory of the former air defence base.
🔹In #Svatovo Direction, in the #Liman sector, our army is advancing on #Terny. In Laptev Yar, ours pushed the enemy back about 1.5 km. The end of the ravine goes directly to the logistics point of #Terny, which is exactly halfway between #Torskoye and #Makeyevka. Our army is slowly but surely approaching this village. In the #Kupyansk sector, there is no change at the #Tabayevka – #Krakhmalnoye line. The AFU is strengthening the defence of #Peschanoye, which, like #Tabayevka, is in a lowland. Our aviation is counteracting. they are hitting more often with FABs.
☠️ In #Gorlovka, two wounded. in #Belgorod region 2 drones were shot down. Up to 7 #NATO reconnaissance aircraft have been spotted in the sky over the Black Sea during the last day, There is a high probability of a new missile attack.
💥At night, Geranium again attacked military facilities and infrastructure of the AFU. From Krivoy Rog reports about a blackout, a substation was hit. In the Kharkov region, the Shebelinsky Gas Processing Plant, which was attacked in July and December 2022, was damaged.
Posted by: Down South | Feb 2 2024 18:08 utc | 6
The Ukrainian Armed Forces have already begun to supply the first 50 thousand sets of women’s summer field suits. The uniform is made in sizes from 40 to 64, height from 146 to 188 centimeters and in two full-bodied groups: II and III.
According to the Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Kalmykova, there are 5 thousand female military personnel on the front line in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Posted by: Down South | Feb 2 2024 18:11 utc | 7
That is an absolutely staggering amount of hardware that Russia has destroyed. It’s hard to believe that Ukraine ever even possessed such armaments.
Posted by: Gnome Sane | Feb 2 2024 17:22 utc | 3
They didn’t- not all at once, anyway. Their original stocks of Soviet-era weaponry were depleted quickly and replace by the west. More weapons continue to flow in, though in dwindling numbers. More significant is Ukraine’s half-million and counting casualties, which they have no way of replacing.
Posted by: Honzo | Feb 2 2024 18:13 utc | 8
During Putin’s recent chat with students who served in the SMO, he was asked in relation to the IL-76 shootdown if he considered the Ukie military to be a terrorist organization. At the time, he said that act was certainly a crime, but didn’t directly call the Ukie military terrorists. That has now changed. The Ukies have adopted the NATO/Outlaw US Empire/Zionist terroristic tactic known as “double-tapping” where medical workers responding to the victims of an attack are themselves attacked despite their vehicles displaying Red Cross or Red Crescent which is supposed to protect them from being targeted. IMO, Putin isn’t making the accusation as part of his reelection campaign; rather, he’s been under quite a lot of political pressure to make that accusation given the Ukies’s continuing genocidal efforts to kill as many Russian people as possible that began in 2014. Part of the reason why such an accusation was delayed is because the Zionists do the same thing to advance their Genocidal Project. Personally, I’ve awaited such a designation for years as it triggers the anti-terrorism aspects of numerous multilateral organizations Russia’s a member of–SCO, BRICS+, CSTO, and CIS being the most important. The big question now is what affect will it have on Russia’s Palestine policy as the Zionist Genocide Project is ipso-facto terrorism.
“The big question now is what affect will it have on Russia’s Palestine policy as the Zionist Genocide Project is ipso-facto terrorism.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2024 18:23 utc | 9
I have another question for you sir. Could or should Russia retroactively create a case against Ukraine for their ongoing attempts to commit genocide in eastern Ukraine?
Would this be an effective response to the ICC and ICJ cases against Russia and its citizens?
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2024 18:36 utc | 10
The hypersonic Russian ship Ivanovet is sunk. A couple more years of pretend war is the way to go. Zelenski is safe and awaiting billions.
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Feb 2 2024 18:50 utc | 11
EU policy isn’t that bad after all, imho.
50 billion for Ukraine’s corrupt elites, er, I mean budget are a clear political sign of support.
At the same time, supply of military hardware is limited – wound down? – , thus not prolonging the war more than necessary. If it stays this way & NATO troops don’t enter the fight directly, we might be approaching an end to the armed conflict.
(yeah I’m advocatus diaboli here)
Posted by: smuks | Feb 2 2024 18:51 utc | 12
Considering the content of the case Ukraine vs Russia filed to the ICJ, I wonder indeed when Russia will file a case against Ukraine for exactly the same accusations (terrorism, Russian speaking Ukrainian oppression and discrimination).
Posted by: scc | Feb 2 2024 18:55 utc | 13
A friend posted this report:
“The killing of Iranian Revolutionary Guard leaders in Syria raised questions about the possibility of “leaking accurate information” to Israel, which raised doubts about the existence of a “security breach” and behind forces standing behind these leaks.
The Iranian newspaper “Jumhuri-e-Islami” discusses in an article entitled “Is Russia involved in the assassination of Iranian leaders in
Syria?” the possibility of Russia’s involvement in these events, pointing to the failure of the Russian S-400 system to monitor and repel Israeli attacks on Damascus.
It raised also .the question of who provided accurate information about the location and presence of the advisors, and the timing details of their meetings in Mezzeh and the Sayyida Zeinab area to the Israeli side, pointing to Iranian signals that are moving towards holding Moscow and Damascus responsible for this matter.”
Is it possible that Iran is stupid enough to think that Russia or Syria would tell the Israelis where Iranian officials are staying?
Or are they playing 3D chess, trying to make the US think that they are turning against their allies?
Or is that Iranian newspaper actually a front for CIA disinformation dissemination?
With friends like these, (and China, if it’s true that they are selling those killer drones to Ukraine), you don’t need enemies.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 2 2024 19:08 utc | 14
David G Horsman | Feb 2 2024 18:36 utc | 10–
Thanks for your reply. Russia’s stated policy in that regard is to rely on its own judicial system since it’s not an ICC signatory nor has its initial complaints at the ICJ shown it to be impartial as it ought to be. Zakharova’s weekly briefing Ukraine Updates always begin with a recap of the weeks legal proceedings against Ukies for their crimes. Russia has also cited the Nuremburg trials as a possible model to follow once the conflict ends so the leading international Nazis like Biden, Nuland, Sullivan, Blinken, BoJo, Macron, etc., can be tried using the Nuremburg precedent. There are other precedents that have been discussed, such as what was decided about Nazism’s future at Yalta–it was to be completely eradicated within Europe after the war, and outcome that was prevented by the USA/UK as we now know quite well. All the above are reasons why I state occasionally that we need to finish fighting WW2, for the current global conflict is an extension of that war in similar ways that WW2 was the extension of WW1. When a deep look into the past is made, it becomes clear that the same forces involved in promoting WWs1&2 are the same as those now trying to keep their illgotten hegemony alive. The basic ideologies at work are the same–Megalomania and Pleonexia–and have existed in their current form for 1,000+ years and in a more basic manner for 4,000+ years.
The power structure in Ukraine is clarifying now. This is what I see after looking at some Telegram channels. Zaluzhnyi and the leader of Right-Sector appear very friendly to each other on a recent selfie and it seems Zaluzhnyi has the support of the ultra-nationalist groups. So Zelenky and Ermak, as the PR specialists, will do the public relations work and they will maintain the financial support flowing from the USUKEU. Zaluzhny now is the boss and the draft is going to be hellish under his grip, I fear.
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Posted by: Richard L | Feb 2 2024 19:55 utc | 16
Zaluzhnyi has got another essay, this time on CNN. Interesting reading. Post #16 is right including mobilization. Zaluzhnyi is dreaming about drones but harsh reality on battlefield will bring his dreams to the end, he doesn’t have enough time. RUS have enough missile to destroy drone factories which UKR builds. UKR has no ability to destroy RUS defense industry. UKR is still willing to fight and die. Civilian sector seems to be exhausted. Additional mobilization will destroy civilian sector and that may be one of the friction points between Zele and Zalu. Zalu is just in charge of the army. Zele is in charge of everything, he must deliver arms and ammo to the army which has never enough. Hitler had the same problem with his generals.
Posted by: J_Schneider | Feb 2 2024 20:22 utc | 17
@karlof1 | Feb 2 2024 18:23 utc | 9
Looks like Putin is preparing to get them on the terrorist list. Now I think a court has to finish it. I remember azovs were put on the list very late, after 6-12 months of smo, can’t remember. Then free path to sanctions for sponsors and option for direct strikes on training sites anywhere on the planet
Posted by: rk | Feb 2 2024 20:24 utc | 18
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2024 17:25 utc | 5
Salud Karl, thanks for your reply on a previous post.
Go to Tula with your own samovar, an English equivalent could be taking coal to Newcastle, smiths for sure, and if destiny takes you there, Yasnaya Polyana, Tolstoy’s estate is near by. A good lesson can be learned there, the great writer is buried in the ground with not even a tombstone, a small mound covered with snow and three carnations left over by some kind visitor. I guess many leaders do not have the time to read some of the things written by that humble human being.
Posted by: Paco | Feb 2 2024 20:27 utc | 19
Gnome Sane @ 3:
A staggering percentage of those destroyed weapons and materiel not only was not originally possessed by Ukraine, it also was not used or operated by Ukrainians on the battlegrounds.
Plus a lot of that equipment was destroyed when the Russians targeted military depots and civilian buildings being used for military stores.
At least here in Australia, we can be thankful that the Ukrainians don’t want our “flying trash” F-18 Hornet jets or they too might eventually end up as trash statistics in the Russian Ministry of Defense’s regular reports.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Feb 2 2024 20:34 utc | 20
@wage labourer 14
Putin has been fool and backstabber of allies from the start and is outsmarted by his anglo enemies. Putin did not supply s300 to iran nor to Syria in 2010 – measures which would have stopped anglos aggression in the middle east .He could have supplied fast missiles to sink anglos ship-does he not want to see how his zircon fares against nato ship!? But he is too coward and clueless. Russia needed Strelkov (of cassad fame) all along – what cassad had said has come out true all along unlike putinistas’ lies and empty boasting.
Posted by: Sam | Feb 2 2024 20:36 utc | 21
Or is that Iranian newspaper actually a front for CIA disinformation dissemination?
With friends like these, (and China, if it’s true that they are selling those killer drones to Ukraine), you don’t need enemies.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 2 2024 19:08 utc | 14
Are you going to name the Iranian paper or post a link to the article, lest we suspect that your post be ‘CIA disinformation dissemination’?
Posted by: ChatNPC | Feb 2 2024 20:37 utc | 22
Revisiting ArgetiniNn folly on 1982
Cecil von Renthe-Fink is a mere footnote in the pages of history. A Prussian aristocrat who joined the Nazi Party in 1939, Renthe-Fink however has a claim to fame. In August 1943, he drafted a memorandum proposing a European economic union with a common central bank and currency. But there was a caveat – if the new union was to be a success, Britain must be kept out because according to the German diplomat it was “the continent’s ancient enemy”.
Today several nations, especially Russia, would agree with that assessment. With 66,000 of its nationals on the run from justice, and a large number of them having found asylum in Britain, Russia is the most affected by Britain’s policies.
The Argentina did a very stupid thing and Russia did more stupid thing in June 1982.
Argentina refused Russian help in sinking British pirate ships task force for Malvinas Island. The Malvinas island thing in which coward English used Uno to sanction Argentina and usa supplied arms to England while stopping any aid to Argentina by third party thru UN sanctions . The English cowards got a new lease of life for dreaming of new empire thus time they would call this not British empire but anglo-american empire or one world government controlled by English scumbags.
Second cold war was the direct consequence of loss of Malvinas.
It is no coincidence that virtually all Arab nations which the anglos controlled West considers allies embrace Islamic fundamentalism, a repressive belief system which is quite congruent with global monopoly capitalism and non religious sect of greed called protestanism.. Both are based on a return to rule by feudalistic monarchy and a diminished role for government and thus democracy.
Posted by: Sam | Feb 2 2024 20:39 utc | 23
A large cohort of young Ukrainians have lived knowing that they were off-limits to the dragooning of the AFU. But every day more and more of that age group either age out to being subject to the draft, or feel the chill of the advace of time that brings them closer to that day for themself.
Here in America we had a similar phenomena with our war in Vietnam, and we had a whole generation of our political class live through it. Bill Clinton, AL Gore, and Dick Cheney all come to mind. Their responses to the draft are illuminating, imo.
Given the censorship in Ukraine, and the fear of speaking out, here in the West we don’t see much reporting about these young people, but I’m sure a lot could be learned from candid interviews of them.
P.S. Imo one of Heinlein’s best novels was Glory Road, and the protagonist therein offered some humorous insights into the early days of that era, and the draft.
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL3305016M/Glory_road
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glory_Road?wprov=sfla1
Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 2 2024 20:48 utc | 24
Sam @23
Renthe-Fink was correct regarding UK. Interestingly enough, one of the biggest advocates of a European Union, with the UK in it, in the 1950s was Sir Oswald Mosley, the pre-war leader of the British Union of Fascists.
Posted by: AJ | Feb 2 2024 20:57 utc | 25
while Brussels floods Ukronazistan with billions of euros, weapons and everything the army needs to kill Russians, the Russians in turn flood Europe with oil, gas, uranium and other minerals vital for Western war industries, industries that freely pass their products via Ukrainian highways and railways,
well, the Russians are happy to get themselves killed to make the oligarchs rich, everyone is content,
I am neither Russian nor American, and therefore I have difficulty accepting this state of affairs,
if my neighbor throws bricks on my family I certainly don’t go to supply him with material to build bricks.
Now write that I’m a troll. But it’s grotesque, to say the least
Posted by: A.cagliostro | Feb 2 2024 21:01 utc | 26
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/02/this-is-what-happens-when.html
” … your general staff is filled with Sandhurst graduates.
MOSCOW, Feb 2 — RIA Novosti. The UK has invited NATO allies to consider sending an expeditionary force of the alliance to Ukraine, an informed source told RIA Novosti. “In connection with the unfavorable development of events for Kiev in the Ukrainian theater of military operations, Britain invited NATO allies to consider sending an expeditionary force of the alliance to Ukraine, as well as establishing a no-fly zone over the territory controlled by the Kiev authorities, and increasing the supply of weapons and equipment MAT”The agency’s interlocutor said.
London evidently want’s to “cease to exist”. Literally.”
Posted by: chop | Feb 2 2024 21:11 utc | 27
Down souht
sorry, but I no longer read your war bulletins, they’ve been saying for a year that the Ucronazis are losing men and equipment while the Russians advance, but where are they advancing?, no action to take these fortresses from behind and prevent even a fly from reaching them Ukrainians on the front lines,
given how the Russians proceed, their commanders should study Gaius Julius Caesar and the battle of Alesia. The lack of food forced Vercingetorix to surrender and hand himself over to the victor as a prisoner. Chained, he followed his conqueror for four years during his military campaigns.52 BC,
Posted by: A.cagliostro | Feb 2 2024 21:14 utc | 28
Are you going to name the Iranian paper
Posted by: ChatNPC | Feb 2 2024 20:37 utc | 22
I told you that I was quoting a post by a friend, so I don’t have a link. The name of the newspaper is in the post.
“The Iranian newspaper “Jumhuri-e-Islami”
What is it with people that can’t consider a problem without calling the questioner names?
Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 2 2024 21:17 utc | 29
A.cagliostro <— Meet the new troll. Same as the old troll.
Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 2 2024 21:17 utc | 30
just read that ria article about the uk.
i wonder if they will send any of their own military for that expeditionary force, or will they armtwist some poles and french. you know, like the brave brits that they are.
if they send their own, then i really REALLY wish for them to get their bloodiest nose ever.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 2 2024 21:18 utc | 31
With friends like these, (and China, if it’s true that they are selling those killer drones to Ukraine), you don’t need enemies.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 2 2024 19:08 utc | 14
A friend of mine warns against deliberate deception.
Perhaps you could check your friend’s factual knowledge? Then you will know more.
Is this the first time the Israelis have carried out such an action?
Would such an action be in Russia’s interest?
Were there any conflicts between Israel and Ru in this regard?
One might think you want to sow distrust with conspiracy theories.
You certainly sound endeavoured.
But here ….?
With your alleged level of knowledge, you don’t need any more enemies.
Posted by: 600w | Feb 2 2024 21:24 utc | 32
Russians are happy to get themselves killed to make the oligarchs rich,
A.cagliostro | Feb 2 2024 21:01 utc | 26
It’s true that Russia has no sanctions yet, strange indeed, but they can’t stop others from reselling everything back to nato, like India does. It’s also the multipolar path, “each for himself.” I think Russia is waiting, may apply some sanctions, uranium can be an option, but depending on how much money they need it may never happen. If they have to, military actions are quicker in results. US sanctions for Russia are mostly meant to destroy EU, so don’t use them as example. Why are you not as upset that most Arabs support Israel in Gaza, in addition to nato? Turkey’s sales are jumping high, not low.
Posted by: rk | Feb 2 2024 21:25 utc | 33
“clarified that the kingdom proposes to secretly transfer large highly maneuverable NATO forces to Ukraine from the border regions of Romania and Poland to occupy defensive lines along the right bank of the Dnieper.”
chop | Feb 2 2024 21:11 utc | 27
How can “secretly” and “large” be done at the same time?
Also, amateur smoothie focuses on the 5 soldier UK army, but if true, they will never be involved directly. They never are. All plans are made for border clowns. And I doubt that Russia, who pissed their pants when British ship entered their waters and let it sail, then shot a tiny gun at clouds pretending to be warning, will hit London where all their good boys and girls have properties, money and gold. In Kiev or Lvov no one can remember if there’s some smo or something, why would Bojo be more afraid?
Posted by: rk | Feb 2 2024 21:45 utc | 34
Weeb Union claims it’s been confirmed that Zelenskyy fired Zelushny. Video got posted a minute or two ago, and I hope the title isn’t click bait. I’m off to go watch it now.
https://youtu.be/6x0n12jFbDY
Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 2 2024 21:46 utc | 35
Posted by: rk | Feb 2 2024 21:25 utc | 33
Quite a simple answer to all of the why’s you have about russia and its smo.
When its all over. At the very least what the world gets appears to be a new boss NOT the same as the old boss. That is the essence of the smo imo. The way a humanist regime would act if forced to violence.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Feb 2 2024 21:51 utc | 36
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/02/zaluzhny-zelensky-ukraine-general-dismissal/
Zelensky move to fire general leaves Ukraine guessing who will command war
David L. Stern, Isabelle Khurshudyan, Kostiantyn Khudov
9 – 11 minutes
KYIV — Four days after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told his top general that he would soon be fired, a replacement still has not been selected, a senior defense official said Friday, leaving the warring country uncertain why its popular military chief is being sacked and who will lead its troops amid intensifying Russian attacks.
Notifying Gen. Valery Zaluzhny of his imminent dismissal without having a successor ready appeared increasingly to be an impulsive and ill-prepared decision by Zelensky and his team. Reports of the ouster in Ukrainian and international media prompted a backlash among civilians and soldiers who admire Zaluzhny and are waiting for an explanation.
Zelensky’s office has informed the White House of the decision to remove Zaluzhny, two people familiar with the situation told The Washington Post. But at home, the Ukrainian administration has stayed silent after initially denying on Monday that Zaluzhny was being dismissed. Zelensky also has yet to formally remove Zaluzhny through an official decree.
Zelensky said Friday night that he had met with military leadership, including Zaluzhny, for an update on the battlefield situation, but he did not make reference to any personnel changes.
Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 2 2024 21:57 utc | 37
Как сообщает Вашингтон Пост, комик-гомик решил уволить алкоголика и проинформировал об этом Белый Дом. Согласно заявлению анонимного источника WP, администрация Байдена “не поддержала, но и не препятствовала увольнению алкоголика”.
According to the Washington Post, the homosexual comedian decided to fire the alcoholic and informed the White House about it. According to a statement from an anonymous WP source, the Biden administration “neither supported nor prevented the firing of the alcoholic.”
Colonelcassad
Posted by: chop | Feb 2 2024 22:03 utc | 38
Inserito da: William Gruff | 2 febbraio 2024 21:17 UTC | 30
I don’t care, both how many Ukrainians die and how many Russians end up the same way, but being taken for a ride by a bunch of vodka enthusiasts, which among other things sucks and only serves to burn neurons, no,
I’m sorry but from today I declare myself neutral, same thing with the war between Israel and the Islamists, the more they fight the better they do, I wouldn’t turn my back on either one.
just an IQ a little higher than the band of fans you face every day,
Whether one wins or the other wins makes no difference to me.
Posted by: rk | Feb 2 2024 21:25 utc
in Italy which would then be my country, Russian gas regularly arrives via Russian pipelines that pass through territory controlled by the Ukrainians and in addition to gas also oil, so 360 degree hypocrisy
Posted by: A.cagliostro | Feb 2 2024 22:19 utc | 39
Every now and again someone notices that Russia does not act or react the same way as the world’s terrorist United States and their gang. No illegal sanctions, no random bombings, no stealing or breaking of contracts. Yet few manage to make the extra logical step to connect the dots of why, while select experts similar to the above even call it hypocrisy.
Russia is demonstrating to the rest of the world in the simplest terms – there are assholes over there and Russia isn’t an asshole. I don’t know about anyone else, but that reads as the opposite of hypocrisy to me. Correct me if I’m missing something.
Posted by: boneless | Feb 2 2024 22:28 utc | 40
“The big question now is what affect will it have on Russia’s Palestine policy as the Zionist Genocide Project is ipso-facto terrorism.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2024 18:23 utc | 9
I have another question for you sir. Could or should Russia retroactively create a case against Ukraine for their ongoing attempts to commit genocide in eastern Ukraine?
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2024 18:36 utc | 10
I don’t call Ukraine “Big Israel” for a lark.
The ICJ has published two (2) final judgments pertaining to disputed violations of international laws (Conventions) between Ukraine (plaintiff) v. Russian Federation (respondent). The RF sent legal counsel to the Hague in both instancees. They are named in both documents below. The court rationalized several, older, and incoherent filings byUkraine since 2014 into four (4) judiciable complaints, of which 62 requests under ICFT and CERD combined.
31 Jan, Application of [1. ICSFT] the International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism and of [2. CERD] the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (Ukraine v. Russian Federation), ICJ judgment, 112 pp (case docket here)
2 Feb, [3, 4 CPPCG] Allegations of Genocide under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Ukraine v. Russian Federation): 32 States intervening), 62 pp (case docket here)
CPPCG intervernors for Ukraine: AU, CA, LI, NO, NZ, UK, EU AT BE, BG, CY, DE, DK, EE, ES, FI, GR, FR, IE, IT, LT, LU, LV, CZ, HR, MT, NL, PO, PT, RO, SE, SI, SK (Three are joint declarations; all but three intervenors are NATO members.)Intervenors are not parties in the dispute, rather declared amicus curiae who, as “friends of the court” ostensibly represent mutual interests in merits adjudged, submit arguments to the court pertaining to facts and law disputed by the litigants; in this case, the arguments are legal briefs, and those states’ “agents” presence at court proceedings is pro forma.
As one might expect, anglophone press reportage of both case outcomes is uninformative as to ICJ jurisdiction yet strongly prejudicial as to moral compensation demanded by Ukraine parens patriae—particularly amusing, because the definition of “funds” and race discrimination OR genocide of “Crimean Tatars” (whom R. Umerov proudly deprived of water rights and those Meiji who RF unilaterally (not unlike NATO members) designate terrorists) determine 90% of Ukraine’s claims headed to the ICC.
For example
The Court found that Russia violated the provisions of two conventions—on combating the financing of terrorism and on the elimination of all forms of racial discrimination-in eastern Ukraine and in Crimea.
and
Ukraine still characterized the ruling as a victory. “It is important that the court will decide on the issue that Ukraine is not responsible for some mythical genocide, which the Russian Federation falsely alleged that Ukraine has committed,” Anton Korynevych, the leader of Ukraine’s legal team, told reporters after the hearing.
Both judgments are archived here. I recommend you read the each in their entirety…before you count the votes for each “measure”.
Posted by: sln2002 | Feb 2 2024 22:35 utc | 41
Colonelcassad
Posted by: chop | Feb 2 2024 22:03 utc | 38
Perfect translation and transliteration!
Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Feb 2 2024 22:47 utc | 42
I guess I have to KISS.
The question is: Why would an Iranian newspaper accused Russia of betraying Iran?
Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 2 2024 22:53 utc | 43
The fact is Russia has won, and resoundingly. The endless parade of fools who honor themselves they know better..or whom are outright propagandists..are ignorance personified.
As I’ve said before, America and her yapping poodles have gotten their collective cocks stuck in a Russian steeljawed trap labeled ‘SMO’. They can’t pull out without losing their dicks, and the longer they pretend they meant to put their dick there in the first place, the more they bleed.
Couple it with Maerica and the ‘rules based disorders’ abandonment of any pretense of humanity..witness Gaza..what we are seeing is no less than the controlled demolition of an Empire completely bankrupt, first in intelligence, first in morality and at the last, financially.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Feb 2 2024 22:54 utc | 44
Russia is demonstrating to the rest of the world in the simplest terms – there are assholes over there and Russia isn’t an asshole. I don’t know about anyone else, but that reads as the opposite of hypocrisy to me. Correct me if I’m missing something.
Posted by: boneless | Feb 2 2024 22:28 utc | 40
Anyone who has lived at least three and a half to four decades, should know this is true. The “west” was built on slavery and genocide. “Assholes” are exposed.
Civilization, cool concept. Maybe we should try it.
Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Feb 2 2024 22:56 utc | 45
The question is: Why would an Iranian newspaper accused Russia of betraying Iran?
Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 2 2024 22:53 utc | 43
Is it ‘Iranian’ like the Moscow Times is ‘Russian’? Just you know, keeping it simple.
It’s an easier question when you ask ‘why would America try to split Iran and Russia?’
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Feb 2 2024 22:56 utc | 46
Posted by: boneless | Feb 2 2024 22:28 utc | 40
as I understood for the most the joke is not in the grasp of imagination ^^
Posted by: Macpott | Feb 2 2024 23:05 utc | 47
Russia is demonstrating to the rest of the world in the simplest terms – there are assholes over there and Russia isn’t an asshole. I don’t know about anyone else, but that reads as the opposite of hypocrisy to me. Correct me if I’m missing something.
Posted by: boneless | Feb 2 2024 22:28 utc | 40
You got nothing wrong.
Posted by: Lex | Feb 2 2024 23:12 utc | 48
Posted by: chop | Feb 2 2024 22:03 utc | 38
To help youy understand the Colonelcassad’s teasing, “комик-гомик” (homo comedian) is a direct quote out of the Zaluzhny’s phone intercepts, which were done by Budanov and dutifully forwarded to Zelensky ( the smoking gun )
Posted by: Poslan1 | Feb 2 2024 23:19 utc | 49
Inserito da: disossato | 2 febbraio 2024 22:28 UTC | 40
I continue to call it hypocrisy, you can call it as you like, thanks to the hydrocarbons coming from Russia the steel mills produce components for the weapons factories, there are several, otomelara, leonardo, and others that produce under German and American licence, weapons intended for Ukrainian army to kill Russians, factories that if Russia cut off hydrocarbon supplies would cease production, therefore, go ahead and defend the boss by calling him a respecter of contracts, you know how much some people care, they are ready to pass over the corpse of their best friend with a view to huge profits. (who knows if they aren’t owners of company shares and owners of luxurious villas in Versilia, the Emerald Coast and the French Riviera), but for me it’s just idiocy and total indifference for the fate of their soldiers,
Posted by: A.cagliostro | Feb 2 2024 23:28 utc | 50
French foreign legion mercs hit again. Reports say a Geranium hit the location in Beryslav where French mercs and some high ranking AFU officers were based killing 5 French and 11 AFU. Some other plants were hit during the same raid, including a machine workshop and 1 or 2 NASAMS systems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exfi9u05JTA
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2024 23:28 utc | 51
Firing Zaluzhny is an odd choice, things must be getting desperate. He’s more dangerous to Zelensky outside the army than in it. He also presents the danger of taking some of the army with him on his way out. That’s especially the case when there’s no ready successor.
It feels like Nuland might be involved in all this. A sure sign that a shit show is on the bill.
Posted by: Lex | Feb 2 2024 23:33 utc | 52
karlof1 | Feb 2 2024 19:15 utc | 15
Pleonexia–Morbid greediness or selfishness.
I had to look it up. What an apt term.
Thank you karlof
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2024 23:34 utc | 53
thanks to the hydrocarbons coming from Russia the steel mills produce components for the weapons factories,
A reductionist argument, that ultimately says very little. It’s like having to explain why taxes are collected.
The money for those hydrocarbons is flowing.. to Russia. There, those funds help feed the economy. Conversely for the ‘rules based order’ the purchase of hydrocarbons only fuels their continued demilitarizarion and bankruptcy. Its almost like strategy.. I understand if you don’t recognize it given the West has forgotten it exists.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Feb 2 2024 23:36 utc | 54
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Feb 2 2024 23:36 utc | 54
It was obvious from the very beginning the west tried to sanction oil trade that there was a high chance it would result in nothing else than more pain for the west, mainly EU itself. The hydrocarbon trade is rerouted through China and mainly India. The global market is working otherwise as before, except EU pays over price by several multiples for oil and gas due to logistical disruptions and being forced to almost use US as a sole supplier.
Fuels are still cheap in Europe, but that is mainly a result of dwindling demand as a consequence of the economy grinding into a halt. Same thing, gas demand has drastically dropped due to less demand from industrial plants. So liberals can say everything is fine, see, price is ok. Sure, but the price is low because there is no demand, because chunks of the economy have vanished.
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2024 23:42 utc | 55
Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 2 2024 23:42 utc | 56
no matter biden said its ok for russia to bomb nato assets
Posted by: Macpott | Feb 2 2024 23:45 utc | 57
” The basic ideologies at work are the same–Megalomania and Pleonexia–and have existed in their current form for 1,000+ years and in a more basic manner for 4,000+ years.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2024 19:15 utc | 15
Indeed sir. I believe that the roots of fascism can be productively analyzed from a long historical view although I lack that knowledge. It’s one of a number of things that brings me to the bar.
In terms of modeling it it is a multidimensional analysis of tactics, beliefs and other facets that qualify fascism rather than it being a specific type of ideology.
An important part of that is a reductionist view covering broad cross domain expertise.
So how I visualize it is as a backward linked dynamic to tribalism, types of paternalism, and biological survival and social behavior.
No model is ever going to be correct, so it’s the degree that it might inform us, and perhaps mislead us, that’s the important thing.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 2 2024 23:47 utc | 58
Posted by: Lex | Feb 2 2024 23:33 utc | 52
reportedly he favors Budanov, who has little actual military experience. sounds like a Nuland operation to me, cookies served with clusterfuck.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 2 2024 23:47 utc | 59
Ukraine informs U.S. about decision to fire top general
White House officials did not support or object to the planned ouster of Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, saying it’s President Volodymyr Zelensky’s sovereign choice, people familiar with the matter said
The government of Ukraine has informed the White House that President Volodymyr Zelensky has decided to fire his top military commander, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, in what would be the most consequential personnel shake-up of the war, said two people familiar with the discussion. Sign up for Fact Checker, our weekly review of what’s true, false or in-between in politics.
White House officials did not support or object to the high-stakes decision, but acknowledged it as the president’s sovereign choice, these people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive conversation.
Zelensky has yet to issue a formal decree announcing the ouster of Zaluzhny, and it is uncertain when that might happen. The advance notice to Washington, which has not been previously reported, reflects the influential role of the United States as Ukraine’s most powerful military and political backer.
The early warning also provided the White House an opportunity to urge Zelensky to reconsider the pivotal decision — even though it decided against doing so.
The departure of Zaluzhny, one of the most popular figures in Ukrainian society, could affect troop morale and shake the confidence of Western donors as Ukraine’s military struggles to fend off advancing Russian forces. He and Zelensky have clashed over their divergent strategies for surmounting the battlefield setbacks as the war grinds into its third year.
But any move by the United States to challenge a decision by Zelensky, a popular figure in his own right, who has speculated privately that a new commander could rejuvenate Kyiv’s fortunes, could be seen as exercising undue influence.
“The perception of division at the top in Kyiv is not helpful for Ukraine, but the U.S. government should not get entangled in it,” said Steven Pifer, an Eastern Europe expert at Stanford University and a former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine.
“A president has the right to choose his cabinet as he sees fit. The decision should be squarely with Zelensky, as should the potential consequences,” added Alina Polyakova, president of the Center for European Policy Analysis.
Zelensky could choose to delay action on the decision indefinitely, but that appeared unlikely, said people familiar with his thinking.
Distrust between Zelensky and Zaluzhny has grown over the years, in part because the president has suspected Zaluzhny of harboring political ambitions but also because of disagreements about key military matters, including the general’s request to mobilize about 500,000 new soldiers.
In a tense Monday meeting, Zaluzhny argued that new recruits were needed to make gains on the battlefield in the face of Russia’s superior firepower and troop strength, said people familiar with the conversation. Ukraine also needed to prepare for personnel losses, which are expected to be comparable to last year’s, he said.
Zelensky pushed back on conscripting so many, in part because Ukraine lacks the money to pay them without significantly raising taxes for its citizens. Such aggressive conscription would also be politically unpopular.
“The president does not believe that this mass mobilization of men between the ages of 18 to 27 is desirable or warranted at this point,” said a person close to Zelensky.
During the meeting, Zelensky told Zaluzhny he was being dismissed, said a senior Ukrainian official.
On Monday, Zelensky’s spokesman, Serhiy Nykyforov, denied that the president had fired Zaluzhny, but he has not responded to requests for comment since then.
On Thursday, Zaluzhny published a column on CNN’s website in which he alleged that the Ukrainian government had failed to mobilize sufficient numbers of troops and called for an upgrade of the country’s high-tech warfare capabilities.
“We must acknowledge the significant advantage enjoyed by the enemy in mobilizing human resources and how that compares with the inability of state institutions in Ukraine to improve the manpower levels of our armed forces without the use of unpopular measures,” he wrote.
Finding a replacement for Zaluzhny is a significant challenge.
One potential candidate is Ukraine’s head of military intelligence, Lt. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov. The 38-year-old has a background in special forces, not as an army commander. His appointment would potentially signal a move toward asymmetric tactics — such as drone strikes deep into Russian territory — in a war whose front lines have been largely static in the last year.
But it is unclear if he wants the position, said a person familiar with the matter. “He loves his job and may want to keep just blowing stuff up in Russia,” said the person.
Another option is Oleksandr Syrsky, the current ground forces commander. The 58-year-old was credited with leading the defense of Kyiv in the first month of the war and then orchestrating a successful counteroffensive in the northeastern Kharkiv region in the fall of 2022.
But among rank-and-file soldiers, Syrsky is especially disliked, considered by many to be a Soviet-style commander who kept forces under fire too long in the eastern city of Bakhmut when Ukraine should have withdrawn.
“He’s a Gen. Patton-type character,” said the person close to Zelensky. “He doesn’t have a human resources gene in his body.”
Whoever replaces Zaluzhny, it may not end the public disputes between the general and the president, “and he will remain a popular figure in Ukraine,” said Angela Stent, a Russia expert and former U.S. intelligence official.
“It is unclear how it would affect Ukraine’s military performance,” she added. “That would depend on who succeeds him and how his successor is viewed by the rest of the military — and how effective his successor is on the battlefield.”
Posted by: ZALUZNY SACKED | Feb 2 2024 23:52 utc | 60
Its not coincidence that Zelensky waited until the US airstrikes in the ME before he sacked Zaluzny. We know what the world media headlines are going to be don’t we.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 3 2024 0:06 utc | 61
The government of Ukraine has informed the White House that President Volodymyr Zelensky has decided to fire his top military commander, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny
Posted by: ZALUZNY SACKED | Feb 2 2024 23:52 utc | 60
Well, it looks like this:
1. Fighting the Russians with Wehrmacht
2. If that doesn’t work anymore, fighting the Russians with Volkssturm
3. And finally with Werwölfen aka Werwolfs
Posted by: Tuk | Feb 3 2024 0:09 utc | 62
In January 2024, the Ukrainians lost 23,000 men.
Attrition goes on.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 3 2024 0:23 utc | 63
Dr. 11 @44
And that my fellow poster is the gist of The Plan.
Both sides are working together😉 to bring about the eventual shift of power and wealth and control from the West to the East!!
Get your house in order before your world falls apart, (if you’re part of the Golden Billon).
Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 3 2024 0:40 utc | 64
Peter AU1 | Feb 2 2024 0:27 utc | 124
(From the neither-Ukr-nor-Pal thread – not quite sure why you posted it there?)
The sanctions of 2014, and particularly the threat of disconnecting Russia from SWIFT (a monumental strategic mistake, forcing Russia to tightly ally with China), were indeed a perfect preparation for what was to come, putting Russia (and the RoW) on notice that ‘this is only the beginning’. Hedge accordingly.
Not sure about the military bit of your thesis.
I strongly doubt there’ll be a war between NATO and Russia, but if it happens, it will be fought quite differently from the SMO imo. NATO has neither experience nor ability to wage a major land war in Eastern Europe, but it has an air force, missiles, subs… Not to mention non-traditional means of warfare.
Does the SMO prepare for this?
As for Europe (read: the EU), its strategy may not be as lunatic as it seems.
The EU has been financing Kiev’s budget for some years now, and has little choice but to continue doing so. Imagine a sudden collapse of the state & economy of Ukraine: A huge wave of refugees, mixed with remnants of battle-hardened Nazi battalions looking for someone to blame for their defeat. EUrope cannot possibly want that, and if it takes 50 billion over 4 years to prevent it, “I call that a bargain” (Garak).
With the US out of the game and EU largely united, there may be a path to wind down the conflict.
Money yes, weapons no (or very few) – and no direct participation. Now let’s wait for the false flag…
Posted by: smuks | Feb 3 2024 0:42 utc | 65
Zaluzhny sacked….. big deal. Ukroids were effed anyway fighting the way they were.
This is linked into the moves by UK and the “biggest Nato exercise since the end of the cold war”.
Read a report the Brits were pushing the Euro twits for an expeditionary force into Ukraine. Perhaps nothing comes of that, perhaps there will be something though Russia have made it clear that is a declaration of war.
The face of the war against Russia is simply changing, not ending. Since Bojo’s quick trip to hiev and the comedian reneging on the peace deal, this could only end one way – The utter defeat of Russia, not just in Ukraine, or the utter defeat of Nato, not just in Ukraine.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 0:42 utc | 66
I see Ukraine hasn’t collapsed yet.
Hmmmm, yet this website told me it should have over a year ago…
Posted by: evilheidi | Feb 3 2024 0:43 utc | 67
smuks | Feb 3 2024 0:42 utc | 65
Ukraine is basically out of the game now apart from sleeper cells insurgency type operations. This is building up to a wider war rather than a Ukraine war.
A different wider war is now a near certainty and it will be the European war rather than the war in Ukraine. That is why I posted to the open thread. It could have gone in either.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 0:50 utc | 68
I see Ukraine hasn’t collapsed yet.
Hmmmm, yet this website told me it should have over a year ago…
Posted by: evilheidi | Feb 3 2024 0:43 utc | 67
This website also told you a year ago that Kiev would not push Russia back and retake Russia -liberated lands. It poured scorn on Kiev’s assertions that it would retake Crimea in the Autumn of 22. It joked at claims by Kiev that Russians were fighting with shovels. And it warned that Russia would not run out of missiles.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 3 2024 0:53 utc | 69
evil @67
Oh it did heidi, country 404 is just a Dead Man Walking. They know it and NATO knows it but the stupid, brainwashed Ukros just seem to ignore it cuz some money is still coming through…
Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 3 2024 0:55 utc | 70
“Russia is demonstrating to the rest of the world in the simplest terms – there are assholes over there and Russia isn’t an asshole. I don’t know about anyone else, but that reads as the opposite of hypocrisy to me. Correct me if I’m missing something.”
Posted by: boneless | Feb 2 2024 22:28 utc | 40
“You got nothing wrong.”
Posted by: Lex | Feb 2 2024 23:12 utc | 48
I second Lex.
Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 3 2024 0:55 utc | 70
And tell me, Mr Bisfugged, when was the last advance that Kiev’s forces made? Is the noose closing around Avdeevka? Which of the two belligerents are making gains? Answer this…
Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 3 2024 1:03 utc | 72
https://x.com/kitklarenberg/status/1753524665895534811
🧵: Today, the ICJ issued another damning ruling for Ukraine. Almost unanimously, judges rejected Kiev’s argument that Russia used false claims of a genocide in Donbas to justify its invasion. Now the Court will rule if Ukraine *did* commit genocide.
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/182/182-20240202-jud-01-00-en.pdf
Media done its best to bury the ruling, not only by ignoring it, but completely distorting and inverting its substance. Common spin was ICJ can now consider “part” of the genocide case against Russia. What’s not stated is this “part” is whether *Kiev* itself committed genocide.
…
What’s pretty incredible is Yves Daudet, a judge ad hoc appointed via special procedure by Ukraine (!!!) specifically to hear its arguments in this case voted against some of them. Daudet had previously made his sympathies for Kiev abudnantly clear.
Important to note it is pretty certain ICJ will rule Ukraine did not commit genocide in Donbas, as judges effectively already did that by accepting Kiev’s “reverse compliance claim” in the preliminary judgment. But the details of the ruling will certainly be very interesting…
Posted by: Ansuya | Feb 3 2024 1:04 utc | 73
Interesting how there is not a single “global power” whose words matches their actions.
China talks all their smack about the “Taiwan Straight” and “national rights” yet continues with the “cha-Ching” diplomacy.
Russia talks smack about all their “wuderwaffen weapons” that are kept behind a “in case of emergency- break glass” case, with an occasional show of a Kinzel or 2, drones on about their “production” yet can’t seem to find any weapons or manpower to actually defeat Ukrainian forces. Russia seems to thrive on the idea of the Ukraine constantly replenishing itself, as if somehow the whole collective West will run out of manpower and weapons “someday” if they just rant about the UNSC, it will all go away “someday”…
The US … constantly drones on about how “they don’t want a wider war in the ME”, while every action they take is to actually widen the war. Every US word spoken is a lie or intentional misdirection.
The UK posits these insane ridiculous “plans” that it has and will never materialize. They supply money & weapons, and that’s all they will ever do.
They all look like a circus of collaborators…
They all look apart of the Great Reset..
Each Great Power… priming and destroying those that would buck the New World power system.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 3 2024 1:23 utc | 74
Firing Zaluzhny is going to create all sorts of turmoil. Because of the turmoil, the mobilization plan will likely be postponed but meanwhile the troops will lose morale. Expect rats (lower ranking politicians) to start fleeing the ship to Europe. Budanov will likely stay where he is and prepare to take over when the whole system collapses, because he knows the only hope for Ukraine is the original guerrilla war plan.
Posted by: anonposter | Feb 3 2024 1:34 utc | 75
Some videos for today.
Russian guided artillery Krasnopol strike destroys enemy tank near the village of Staromayorskoye (southwest of Donetsk):
https://rutube.ru/video/0b7a5282944a3bd50da0368621a3c6c9/
Russian Lancet strikes enemy howitzer near Staromayorskoye:
https://rutube.ru/video/f1cc2a8bc6ac82d5da6c1c2ddb82235e/
Russian Msta-B howitzer pounds enemy observation post near Donetsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/b6d32632c5e63cacb22ad08da462c851/
Russian FPV drones strike enemy positions and equipment near the DPR’s Artemovsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/d5659f38046f87aaa721b3c465b4fbf2/
Posted by: Nate | Feb 3 2024 1:36 utc | 76
re: Zaluzhny soap opera … another Bandera cheerleader will be found. They will take 10% smaller cut of the profits from the mobilization. To cement their bona-fides in Kiev, they will make selfies in front of portaits of nazis. After that, MSM will vouch for their “popularity”. Opinion polls will find they have 88% approval rating in Ukraine. etc etc etc. Blinken and Nuland will fawn over them without a trace of guilt. Same shit.
I don’t understand why this is supposed to be a story
Posted by: pxx | Feb 3 2024 1:56 utc | 77
Posted by: boneless | Feb 2 2024 22:28 utc | 40
“You got nothing wrong.”
Posted by: Lex | Feb 2 2024 23:12 utc | 48
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I second Lex.
Posted by: canuck | Feb 3 2024 0:57 utc | 71
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Idem ditto.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 3 2024 3:57 utc | 78
Is it really official? Ze fires Za after the ‘US’ (whoever) told him not to.
What, if any, did Icky Vicky contribute in her most recent visit?
It looks like something is wildly out of control. Icky Vicky a power all be her lonesome? The US letting Ze slide into the abyss? Seems like Ze is thrown to the wolves by the US policy apparatus, never mind Icky Vicky et. al.
What am I getting wrong?
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 3 2024 4:02 utc | 79
Is it true that Zaluzhny’s finally been sacked?
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 3 2024 4:18 utc | 80
Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 0:50 utc | 68
We’re not there yet. AFU still has military formations able to wage ‘regular’ war, as seen on the various front lines. I hope their reserves are running out soon, but the war isn’t over yet. At least tactically – strategically, I hope it is and the EU won’t enter the battle directly… ceterum censeo, the EU isn’t all idiots, they understand the game very well.
Acco Hengst | Feb 3 2024 4:02 utc | 79
On this one, I agree with Dima (military summary channel): We’re entering a different phase of the war, and it requires different military leaders. Vicky & the Neocons want a guerilla-type war of the remnants of the AFU against Russia. For this, they need Ze as international figurehead of “Ukraine” – but not Za.
Posted by: smuks | Feb 3 2024 4:27 utc | 81
Who replaces Zaluzhny?
I nominate Nuland.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 3 2024 4:30 utc | 82
@79
What you’re getting wrong is that the US wanted Zaluzhny fired. Nuland went Kieve to make sure Zelensky went through with it.
Posted by: Sally | Feb 3 2024 4:31 utc | 83
Hermius @72
?????Did you NOT read my post to slick? Dyslexic much?
Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 3 2024 4:44 utc | 84
Trubind1 @ 74
There’s the rub. Why are Axis leaders like Putin and Raisi et. al. photographed shaking hands masonic style with western leaders and WEFers? Christ even Greg Abbott is photographed with the likes of the CFR and Klaus Schwab while doing the pointed finger thingy. New videos show many open fences unguarded half a mile from Eagle Pass FFS!
Is this kabuki theatre? Are we to understand that this is STILL all part of the Great Game and soon the West will be toast and the East will take over the reigns but this time called BRICS+, SCO and the EAEU??
Inquiring minds NEED to know!
Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 3 2024 4:52 utc | 85
Why are Axis leaders like Putin and Raisi et. al. photographed shaking hands masonic style with western leaders and WEFers? Christ even Greg Abbott is photographed with the likes of the CFR and Klaus Schwab while doing the pointed finger thingy.
@ bisfugged | Feb 3 2024 4:52 utc | 85
wtf are you talking about? Think you’ve cracked the code do you? LOL
Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 3 2024 5:30 utc | 86
@wagelaborer | Feb 2 2024 19:08 utc | 14
Instead of that Iranian newspaper asking “Is Russia involved in the assassination of Iranian leaders in Syria?” that Iranian newspaper should ask “Is Russia involved in the assassination of Iranian leaders in Iran?”. Because nuclear scientists are dying in Iran all the time, and its not Russia telling Israel about the identity and location of those nuclear scientists, its Iranians themselves telling the Israelis about the nuclear scientists. Not all Iranians are happy about the Islamic dictatorship they have to live under, some of the men want to listen to music, some of the women there want to let their hair down, etc, etc. Perhaps the Iranian dictatorship needs to get a little bit more benevolent while still retaining control.
In the Arab world you have ISIS, the Saudis, the Egyptians, etc, all bending over backwards to be of assistance to Israel. So in Arab Syria there will be many who gladly supply Israel with info about Iranians in Syria. There are lots of Jews pretending to be Muslim all over the ME, one famous one was a Syrian defence minister or general or some higher upper who had trees planted on the Golan Heights to keep the Syrian troops cool in the shade of those trees, which enabled the Israelis to know exactly where the entrances to the Syrian bunkers on the Golan Heights were. The Syrians uncovered and executed that Jew. Russia went into Syria to prevent the toppling of Assad, Russia did not go into Syria to attack Israel. Perhaps Russia’s adherence to the SloMO philosophy means that Russia doesn’t want things getting out of hand in the ME. Allies are allowed to have micro disputes while still agreeing completely on the macro issues.
Posted by: gT | Feb 3 2024 6:51 utc | 87
Inserito da: Dottor Undici | 2 febbraio 2024 23:36 UTC | 54
yes yes everything is right, therefore the good Samaritan Putin is helping Europe not to fail immediately and therefore is sending it all the products necessary to keep it alive, giving the weapons factories the possibility of producing 155mm bullets, missiles at full capacity , spare parts for tanks, trucks and everything that is necessary to ensure that the war continues and kills as many Russians as possible, we will surely have to thank Putin and the Russian oligarchs who try in every way to help us not to fail, because if they had us supplies cut off, by now the aforementioned factories would be closed and would no longer produce weapons to fuel the war,
now I get it,
a big joke to the various fans
Posted by: A.cagliostro | Feb 3 2024 7:09 utc | 88
Strelkov is not of Cassad fame, Sam @ 21.
And, you are wrong on quite a few counts, however, this late in the game it’s pointless explaining.
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Now write that I’m a troll. But it’s grotesque, to say the least
Posted by: A.cagliostro | Feb 2 2024 21:01 utc | 26
Yes, I’ll agree with both your statements above. War is grotesque.
Consider this, The West sanctions Russia on most stuff but keeps open trade that is essential to them. The hope is this will bring Russia to heel economically.
You want Russia to assist the West by completely refusing to engage socially, economically & diplomatically. Thereby isolating itself and doing what the West has failed to do.
You forget, unlike the Genocidal Occupation regime in Palestine, Russia does not equate the population of the West to the ruling regimes. At some point, regimes changes, and you want people who know that Russia has acted in good faith at all times.
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The front will collapse by the end of the month at the latest. There will be a general routing of what’s left of Ukrop.
Posted by: Suresh | Feb 3 2024 7:11 utc | 89
thank you b for banning the obvious and everything that goes against your vision of things.
hearts up and
let the war continue
Posted by: A.cagliostro | Feb 3 2024 9:33 utc | 90
Posted by: rk | Feb 2 2024 21:45 utc | 34
I doubt Russia..will hit London where all their good boys and girls have properties, money and gold.
<=yes safe harbor for private wealth in a foreign nation state is a property of the nation state system.
I keep reminding everyone, the problem is no over sight of the conduct of the sitting government. Those who are the governed must be authorized to audit, indict, convict and punish those in government who violate standards of morality and who fail to meet performance standards.
The 2nd government (the audit government) is world wide, it consist of humanity not associated with those who work for or who wrongfully benefit from the traditional government. The worldwide Audit government is needed to control and regulate those who are the governors in each and every nation state. Truly, humanity is worldwide.
As you observe, the government of the nation state=Russia is no exception. Humanity must find ways to regulate the conduct of those who operate or use the Russia government for personal or unauthorized purposes. The wealth in Russia, as occurs in every other nation state, controls the government of Russia; the nation state system makes those who are the governed pawns in a big chess game played by the wealthy in charge in the different nation states.
The chess men are moved about the chess board by those with the wealth.
Posted by: snake | Feb 3 2024 9:48 utc | 91
Military commander of Crimea has been killed
I don’t remember any war where a 404 „state“ like Ukronazistan has
Successfully eliminated so many enemies high ranking commanders in a period of two years.
Moreover that Chessmaster is cowardly accepting that Nato openly killing Russian soldiers shows the real faces of traitors in Kremlin
Posted by: SlowSoft | Feb 3 2024 10:27 utc | 92
No magic US weapon left for offensive Ukraine victory
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/us-weapons-ukraine/
Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 3 2024 10:46 utc | 93
Likely replacing Zaluzhny with Budanov, so replacing a general with a terrorist. I expect a ramp up of guerrilla tactics and drone swarms. NATO is now moving heavily into War on Terror tactics, as the terror. If Russia wants to ablate the majority of this next round before it starts in earnest it would do well to liquidate ‘mercenaries’ wherever they cluster, the more ‘sheep-dipped’ the cluster the better. Oh look, it seems they have been doing exactly that…
Posted by: titmouse | Feb 3 2024 10:54 utc | 94
Avdiivka. Beginning. Dill as a sentence – our special forces are already in the city
Short frontline summary on February 2, 2024 from journalist Marat Khairullin
Dear friends, today is a significant day, or rather it was yesterday – February 1 can be officially called the beginning of urban battles. Yesterday and today, attackers of the 114th and 30th brigades of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation bypassed the Avdiivka quarry (Blue Lakes) position from both sides and officially entered the city limits of Avdiivka from the north along Zheleznodorozhny Lane and Frunze Street. And now they are gaining a foothold in the area of Sapronova Street.
Special operations forces of the 115th brigade of the National Guard also entered the city. And, according to unofficial data, during these hours, active movement continues in the direction of Donetska Street. If the dynamics continues, then by tomorrow morning we should expect our guys to consolidate at this most important milestone.
At the same time, my native Slavyanka advanced along the dirt road from Opytne to the intersection with the Donetsk ring road, thus entering the rear of the Military Unit position.
Earlier I wrote that our 4th battalion was entrenched inside the perimeter of the defense of the military unit from the side of the village of Spartak. Since then, our area of control has only expanded, we are slowly but surely approaching the complex of main buildings. In these hours, the battle is also in full swing here, and the continuous battle continues for the third day.
And now we have entered the rear of this most important position – from the new line to the perimeter of the military unit is less than 200 meters. In addition, it is less than 800 meters from here to the Overpass position (sometimes called Cheburashka), which covers the supply line of the military unit along Hrushevsky Street from Avdiivka. That is, the strangulation of this most important position of the dill begins.
Taking into account all of the above, as well as the previous serious advance of our troops in the area of Sportivnaya Street and Chernyshevsky Street (the area of the Tsarskaya Okhota restaurant), it can be argued that the Ukrops have a very difficult situation. And that’s putting it mildly.
In general, the movement of our troops these days is observed on almost all fronts. But we’ll talk about it in detail in a big summary on Monday. Don’t miss out – we are entering a period of important changes at the front.
voenkorkhayrullin tg
Posted by: marat post | Feb 3 2024 11:01 utc | 95
Has Dima lost the plot?
NATO forces enter Ukraine up to the right bank of the River !!!! this summer !!!
UK Plans To Go To War With Russia | Massive US Missile Attack On Mid East. Military Summary 2024.2.3
Just now – short video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gNaN2ize20
Posted by: David O’Donnell | Feb 3 2024 11:04 utc | 96
Posted by: SlowSoft | Feb 3 2024 10:27 utc | 92
Probably it happened in the past but no social media were available for PR.
Killing commanders, or telling of killing commanders, doesn’t change nothing on the Frontline, if it were so Ukraine would have won the war twice by this time as, in the past they stated to have killed commanders/generals by the dozens. Same goes for Israel, they kill hamas chiefs/commanders of hamas everyday but they are not winning.
Posted by: Mario | Feb 3 2024 11:17 utc | 97
well …no genocide plausable intentionality despite Tymoshenko for example saying nuke all russians.Perhaps Ukr killing its “own” citizens in territory(as in the Minsk2) it insists is its own still and Donbass citizens probably very similar DNA cannot be genocide just an ATO and intentional mass murder …collateral damage by productthey might say but now we know what “disproportianate” means …
Posted by: Jo | Feb 3 2024 11:25 utc | 98
“Cecil von Renthe-Fink is a mere footnote in the pages of history. A Prussian aristocrat who joined the Nazi Party in 1939, Renthe-Fink however has a claim to fame. In August 1943, he drafted a memorandum proposing a European economic with a common central bank and currency. But there was a caveat”
NO FISCAL UNION
Posted by: Sam | Feb 2 2024 20:39 utc | 23
So you missed the obvious every proposal was always about control. Controlling domestic economic policies of every nation.
You either have a fiscal union like the United States or the banks are in control via bank lending
Here:
The sham of ECB independence
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=37150
Posted by: Echo Chamber | Feb 3 2024 11:51 utc | 99
Posted by: David O’Donnell | Feb 3 2024 11:04 utc | 96
Dima just stated the sources what reported what UK is planning to do. UK wants to send the 90k Nato exercise in Poland to Ukraine to occupy the Dnieper river right (west) bank. The idea is so Ukraine can send off the rest of its people to the front.
Obviously this will not have any immediate effect, but after RUAF is done with AFU on the left bank of Dnieper, it presents a pretty interesting situation. I would assume we will see some spill-over strikes on Nato troops even before that.
There is no ‘mechanism’ in place which recognizes Nato troops or multinational coalition in Ukraine so they will just be AFU combatants.
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 3 2024 11:53 utc | 100