Palestine Open Thread 2024-065
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine.
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Posted by b on February 28, 2024 at 17:10 UTC | Permalink
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Norwegian Refugee Council director says ‘hundreds of trucks’ stuck outside of Gaza crossings
Jan Egeland, secretary-general of the Norwegian Refugee Council, has said that Israel must allow aid trucks into Gaza
https://aje.io/k5c04g?update=2738551
Azrael rejects normalization with KSA if it means a Palestinian state.
https://aje.io/k5c04g?update=2738437
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 28 2024 17:50 utc | 2
Back in January - some analysts estimated the IDF/Pentagon would run out of weapons in late March/early April - thoughts ?
Posted by: Exile | Feb 28 2024 17:52 utc | 3
Israel is in a complete mess and there is no plan for the day after either.
Posted by: AI | Feb 28 2024 17:57 utc | 4
Israel is in a complete mess and there is no plan for the day after either.
Posted by: AI | Feb 28 2024 17:57 utc | 5
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Israel isn't real. It is a vampire that will turn to dust when exposed to sunlight.
Posted by: too scents | Feb 28 2024 18:14 utc | 5
Just listened to another live discussion with John Mearsheimer this time on The Electronic Intifada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykklx8iLo_0
# The Lobby - more or less fully controls US policy on Israel/Palestine and the Middle East/West Asia.
The US, inc all Presidents, does not have independent agency in this area. Israel has captured the US. Ethnic cleansing of Gaza is the present goal. The Lobby also wants 'regime change in Iran'.
# towards the end he noted that since 2000, President V.Putin has 'basically taken Russia back from the dead to Superpower status with China and the US.'
Nothing really 'new' to many readers here but a dose of Realism. To borrow the title from Robert Fisk's brilliant book on Lebanon - Pity the Nation - Pity Palestine.
Posted by: David O'Donnell | Feb 28 2024 19:08 utc | 6
I remember in the immediate aftermath of Oct 7 it was announced Biden sent 8000 troops to Israel .
Whatever happened to those troops?
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Feb 28 2024 19:20 utc | 7
Aaron Bushnell has supposedly said US troops are fighting Hamas in the tunnels of Gaza.
Posted by: Chas | Feb 28 2024 19:32 utc | 8
Delhiliterally | Feb 28 2024 19:20 utc | 8
US troops were readied for all eventualities to intervene … stayed limited to display of naval power and the two aircraft carriers with convoy vessels.
With two aircraft carriers, the US wants to create a naval bubble around IsraelFollowing the dispatch of the USS Gerald R. Ford, the United States announced the arrival of the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower in the Mediterranean within the next few days. This force of over 15,000 sailors is primarily aimed at deterring regional escalation with Iran.
For the 2 pariah states, the end game has always been the destruction of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
The following link describes Russian President Putin labelling the Ukrainian armed forces as a terrorist organisation for targeting ambulances and civilians.
https://t.me/Reality_Theories/17240
Where does that leave the Russian relationship with Israeli terrorists?
Where does it leave Russian relationships with those supporting said terrorists?
Interesting times.....
Posted by: eagle eye | Feb 28 2024 20:08 utc | 10
Al jazeera reports Azrael has been bombing targets in Damascus. The inanity of the war is clearer everyday, Biden sending more weapons while pretending he wants a humanitarian, temporary ceasefire, and his allies in the EU and the Gulf looking at him more and more as a nuisance. Not that they look at Trump differently, btw. Maybe VdL and Macron's egos are going to realize their ally dont look too good in the picture.
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 28 2024 20:23 utc | 11
The intermediate goal is the destruction of Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq. The longer range goal is Greater Israel to the Euphrates and building the new Temple.
In other words, WW3.
Posted by: JackG | Feb 28 2024 20:25 utc | 12
They want to draft the ultra orthodox and even that wont be enough. The Arabs are perfectly right to let them use whatever amunitions they get until they actually lack them. The EU wont help them. Electoral year in the US, UK, Iran, EU. Let them fight each others when they wont have targets left.
Non-starter.
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 28 2024 20:36 utc | 13
Let's have some fun with them MSM tactics of trial balloons and Overton Windows again: the more buildings Israel destroys in Gaza, the more the world has no choice but to insist Israel humanely care for its occupied Palestinian people hosted in Tel Aviv & Haifa. :) Ideally done so at Israel's beachside resorts, with piña coladas.
Posted by: titmouse | Feb 28 2024 20:37 utc | 14
Titre of a lebanese journal article Al-Akhbar
'Paris negociations : Hostages for food'
Posted by: Animal | Feb 28 2024 20:38 utc | 15
Al jazeera reports Azrael has been bombing targets in Damascus.
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 28 2024 20:23 utc | 12
Salaam Minaa.
It is an error to mislable things in general. The entity has plenty of names to choose from: zionistan, zionist entity, the jewish state, and (just made this one, and like it) ashkeNazion. You can also use scare quote -- they are necessary in this case on multiple levels -- and call it "Israel" or the "gift of the imperialists and aunti-imperialists" but never, ever -- for the sake of your own Soul -- use a name of one of the Arch Angels of ALLAH to call that transitional error and festering pool of misdeeds and pass off their crimes to those who are on the side of God Almighty.
Israel, Azrael, most anything with -EL actually, you want to remember belongs to God, since EL means God, Holy and Exalted. Now we all know that AshkeNazion has no relationshiop whatsoever to that which is holy or exalted. So why go around saying they do?
Is not the essence of the crime of AshkeNazion* criminal & un-Holy misappropriation?
Now I understand why you may be confused since "learned" men with extensive lengths of cloth wrapped around their heads have urged you to go and yell "death to Isreal" for decades.
Here is a simple thing almost mathematical in nature:
Jesus (aleihum Salaam) is the "Messiah of Israel". Now, how is it gonna look when Jesus (as) ~'descends'~ and sees the Muslim Ummah saying death to the very thing ALLAH has made Him Messiah of?
What do you think? Hm?
wa Salaam
* sounds like 'tears of the nazis'
Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 28 2024 20:55 utc | 16
Titre of a lebanese journal article Al-Akhbar
'Paris negociations : Hostages for food'
Posted by: Animal | Feb 28 2024 20:38 utc | 16
Brilliant!
Posted by: Honzo | Feb 28 2024 20:58 utc | 17
Clearly the Zionist objective is to divert attention- of the notoriously fickle populace- from what they did in Gaza to a furore over 'Islamic influence' in Europe to underpin the re-foundation of fascism.
There is already plenty of anti-immigrant, anti-coloured, anti-foreigner sentiment in European countries (just as there is in north America) which can be transformed, by focusing on Islam, into a much more pervasive and popular cause than antisemitism ever was in the past.
In the UK this is what has been happenning in recent weeks. This is what lies behind the Suella Braverman phenomenon. And Liz Truss meets Steve Bannon. If Galloway wins the Rochdale bye-election tomorrow it will be howled from the hilltops of the ruling class media.
All the elements are there in the UK for a new fascism which, most likely, will emanate from the corpse of the old Labour- or rather New Labour- Party, which is led by a fascist happily working for Fascism Central in Washington DC.
This new fascism, allied with India's RSS and Israel's Revisionists, is Imperialism's last throw of the dice.
Posted by: bevin | Feb 28 2024 21:04 utc | 18
Animal @ 16
You know that might just work, israel gives up all its hostages, and in return israel gets given food.
Yes i like that idea, well done.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 28 2024 21:07 utc | 19
Bevin @ 19
As you know i,m in the uk, and i'm seeing exactly what your saying here.
From the grass roots, too opotunist middle manigment types, right to the top in polatics.
While the horrerfing slow death of tens of thousands grinds on, as if its all perfectly normal.
Respect
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 28 2024 21:17 utc | 20
Mark2 | Feb 28 2024 21:17 utc | 21
It's been a while since I was in my homeland. All power to those who, like you, are fighting to redeem it from the ruling class which, after hundreds of years of straining every muscle, mental and bought, has still not quite succeeded in impoverishing and enslaving the people. It looks as if its getting there though...
Posted by: bevin | Feb 28 2024 21:22 utc | 21
Afif Aqrabawi
@AjAqrabawi
It’s now clear Biden flippantly lied about a potential ceasefire deal to influence Michigan’s primary results, since Muslim and Arab voters are key constituents in the state.
Biden is the most selfish and deceptive man in America and will lose 2024 because of that, not us.
https://twitter.com/AjAqrabawi/status/1762775857997758834
Backed up by the following article in The Cradle:
Abdul Hadi, the Hamas representative in Lebanon, stated that the resistance movement is not satisfied with the proposal and will not compromise on any of its demands, particularly “on a ceasefire and reaching an honorable, serious deal.”
Hamas is seeking a permanent end to the war and the release of thousands of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. Israel is seeking the release of the 136 captives held by Hamas in Gaza and a temporary ceasefire that would allow it to resume the war after a pause.
“We are open to any ideas posed by mediators but are also keen on preserving our key demands,” Abdul Hadi told Al-Mayadeen, adding that Israel is “seeking to hold Hamas accountable for any later failures in talks, planning to use this as an excuse to pave the way for the invasion of Rafah.”
https://alethonews.com/2024/02/27/leaked-gaza-ceasefire-proposal-us-psychological-warfare-hamas/
Posted by: Menz | Feb 28 2024 21:34 utc | 22
Joshua Landis
@joshua_landis
Biden's California fundraiser proves his pro-Israel stand is paying off.
Haim Saban, an Israeli-American, who said "I'm a one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel", threw the party that cost up to $250,000 a seat
It was co-hosted with Casey Wasserman and Leslie Gilbert-Lurie, who said "“As an American Jew..., I am deeply grateful to President Biden, for showing up for Israel."
Biden’s campaign raised $145.4 million from Californians in 2020. This January, he raised $42 million alone and has raised more money this early in a campaign than any candidate in history.
https://twitter.com/joshua_landis/status/1762609439830360187
Posted by: Menz | Feb 28 2024 21:36 utc | 23
David O'Donnell | Feb 28 2024 19:08 utc | 7
I use to see it that way too but once you see the net effect of Israeli actions it can also look alot like US policy coincides with Israeli policy.
Which came first? US has had their sights on Middle East for over a hundred years.
Posted by: jef | Feb 28 2024 21:40 utc | 24
An assessment of the visual material presented by the Israeli legal team at the ICJ on 12 January 2024
On 11 and 12 January 2024 the International Court of Justice (ICJ) held public hearings on the request for the indication of provisional measures submitted by South Africa in the case concerning Application of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in the Gaza Strip (South Africa v. Israel). On 11 January, South Africa presented its case and on 12 January, Israel staged its defence.
As part of its defence, the Israeli team presented visual material, including maps, videos, images, and annotated diagrams. We have sourced the elements of evidence from the recording of the Israeli legal team’s presentation at the ICJ as found on the United Nations website...
Findings
We found eight instances where the Israeli legal team misrepresented the visual evidence they cited, through a combination of incorrect annotations and labelling, and misleading verbal descriptions. These instances are presented and explained in this report.
Our study also reveals that the Israeli legal team presented single instances of alleged Palestinian military use of civilian infrastructure as blanket justifications for the systematic and widespread attacks on civilians, shelters, schools, and hospitals.
https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/assessment-israeli-material-icj-jan-2024
Posted by: Menz | Feb 28 2024 21:42 utc | 25
Going Underground
@GUnderground_TV
Alan Shebaro, US Special Forces veteran speaks out against US support for Israel’s genocide in Gaza:
‘What’s going on in Palestine right now is not a war. It is the dehumanisation, it’s the genocide, it’s the ethnic cleansing of a specific people to take their land.’
https://twitter.com/GUnderground_TV/status/1762769839804870751?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Posted by: Menz | Feb 28 2024 21:43 utc | 26
Bevin @ 22
To be honest right know it feels like i'm just rearainging the deck chairs as the ship go's down.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 28 2024 21:53 utc | 27
Emerson/The Hill poll of Trump-Biden-RFK Jr-West-Stein matchup in swing states:
• Nevada: Trump +10
• North Carolina: Trump +9
• Georgia: Trump +9
• Arizona: Trump +6
• Pennsylvania: Trump +5
• Wisconsin: Trump +4
• Michigan: Trump +3
Posted by: JAB | Feb 28 2024 22:01 utc | 28
Margaret Kimberley in Black Agenda Report on America's martyr.
'“My name is Aaron Bushnell, I am an active-duty member of the United States Air Force and I will no longer be complicit in genocide. I am about to engage in an extreme act of protest, but compared to what people have been experiencing in Palestine at the hands of their colonizers, it is not extreme at all. This is what our ruling class has decided will be normal.”...
'On December 1, 2023 an as yet unknown person self-immolated outside of the Israeli consulate in Atlanta, Georgia. It is strange that no one was ever publicly identified, that no name, age, or gender was ever revealed. There were no follow-up stories as to their condition or whether any criminal charges were filed against them. The public hasn’t been informed as to this person’s current whereabouts.
We only know that this person was taken to the hospital in critical condition and that a security guard who tried to extinguish the flames was himself burned, treated at a hospital, and later released. Police chief Darin Schierbaum labeled the incident, “Extreme political protest,” but no other information was given. It appears that Atlanta media, law enforcement, and the Black plantation overseers wanted that person to be disappeared, and unfortunately, they succeeded.
The entire world has been in protest against the U.S. and Israeli war crimes being carried out in Gaza. As they did in Atlanta, the corporate media discredit any action that exposes the ongoing genocide. Even after the Republic of South Africa brought charges of genocide against Israel to the International Court of Justice (ICJ), the media still worked hard to hide and to obfuscate on behalf of the state. The ICJ declared the genocide charge “plausible” but the misleading New York Times headline read in part, “The top United Nations court in The Hague did not rule on whether Israel was committing genocide in Gaza .”
'When the protest is one which fits U.S. state narratives, it is applauded, as happened in the case of Russian journalist Irina Slavina . Barack Obama compared Tunisian street vendor Mohamed Bouazizi to Rosa Parks and to the founding fathers too. Bouazizi’s death helped make the case for the so-called Arab Spring, which Obama turned into a campaign of conquest against Libya and an attempt to destroy Syria as well. Apparently, there are deserving self-immolators and then again those who are to be dismissed.
'It is difficult to wrap our heads around intentional death by burning, but it should be equally difficult to accept war crimes and genocides carried out with our money and in our collective name. We must also ask about other suicides carried out on behalf of the state. All over the world, young people are propagandized into dying for corrupt causes and lauded if they come home in a coffin. Those that survive are thanked for their “service.” ...
'...As Bushnell said, the ruling class has decided that all manner of suffering should be considered normal. We have to say that war and planetary destruction and poverty and state terror are not normal and that the people who carry out atrocities are not normal. The mass of humanity is quite sane but is ruled by the insane and that is what Bushnell wanted us all to know.'
https://www.blackagendareport.com/what-aaron-bushnell-had-teach-us
Posted by: bevin | Feb 28 2024 22:08 utc | 29
bevin @30
The Atlanta incident is certainly being kept under wrap. All I ever found out was that the self-immolator was female.
While researching the subject, I learnt something new. Between 1965 and 1970 five Americans self-immolated protesting the Vietnam war!
Posted by: AJ | Feb 28 2024 22:29 utc | 30
Aaron Bushnell has supposedly said US troops are fighting Hamas in the tunnels of Gaza.
Posted by: Chas | Feb 28 2024 19:32 utc | 9
According to the chairman of the Jewish Rabbinic Council:
""There is no such thing as enemy civilians in war time. The law of our Torah is to have mercy on OUR soldiers and to save (OUR) soldiers…. A thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew’s fingernail.’”
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Feb 28 2024 22:30 utc | 31
FAIR dives into the media's refusal to allow truth on Hannibal Doctrine.
https://fair.org/home/shielding-us-public-from-israeli-reports-of-friendly-fire-on-october-7/
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 28 2024 22:36 utc | 32
Something about the Aaron Bushnell story is hard to turn away from. I think the last few days have been hard on folks who feel morally frustrated, while their government commits genocide and there's nothing to do... except...
For instance, I never heard hard-boiled Colonel Ann Wright get choked up before.
Nikita Mazurov of The Intercept did some intense mining of Bushnell's social media posts over the past four years. The portrait which emerges contains details of startling immediacy: what it's like for ordinary young folks today in the land of milk and honey.
https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/aaron-bushnell-reddit-fire-protest-israel-palestine/
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 28 2024 22:40 utc | 33
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 28 2024 22:40 utc | 34
I read several of his Reddit comments and he seemed way too self-aware and intelligent to waste on the USAF. Such is the REAL economy in the USSA. You can deliver food or provide ride share services for Uber or you can join the military. Otherwise most kids are screwed. The financialization of everything has wrecked most of the other prospects.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 28 2024 22:46 utc | 34
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1762580747171348549
Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Gilad Erdan, delivered a speech in which he totally torched Russia. He not only announced that Israel is going to provide an early warning systems against missiles for Ukraine but also called Ukraine an “ally”. He also equates Russia with Hamas and attacks Russia for hosting another visit of Hamas in Moscow.You can be sure that this speech comes in coordination with the Israeli Prime Minister. It clearly marks the end of the relationship between Putin and Netanyahu. This whole instance reminds when Amir Weitmann delivered his viral statement in RussiaToday where he announced that “Russia is going to pay the price” (check out the repost). I think we are witnessing what this means.
Israel’s pro-Ukraine position will also have ramifications in the US and the ongoing discussion for military aid.
Posted by: tawharanui | Feb 28 2024 23:33 utc | 35
The Gaza Health Ministry says six children are dead in north Gaza from dehydration and malnutrition at Kamal Adwan and al-Shifa hospitals, and others are in critical condition.
The administration of the Kamal Adwan hospital announced later today that they were halting operations as the facility had run out of fuel.
There have been reports from Euromedmonitor.org going back to Dec. of deaths from starvation. These reports were collected from people who contacted Euromedmonitor themselves; they are not from the Palestinian Health Ministry. This means that they would be considered anecdotal rather than official.
However, I think under the circumstances, there have probably been thousands of deaths from starvation to date that simply have not been reported to anyone in authority in Gaza. The circumstances are that:
1) the Health Ministry is reporting the numbers of deaths directly attributable to the Israelis’ bombs and bullets. These death numbers come from the hospitals and local officials (where they still function). Deaths from “natural causes” are not included in the daily numbers we see published, although starvation, withholding of medicines, killing medical staff so as to prevent treatment, etc. are not “natural” in the usual sense of the word.
The 6 children who died today were reported because they were able to make it to a hospital. How many died who did not get to a facility?
2) No doubt some people who are extremely sick (and some of the dead bodies) do not make it to the few remaining hospitals in Gaza. Therefore, there are no autopsies or doctors’ reports attached to these deaths. There are surely many people who simply get buried without a death certificate issued.
3) Hospitals are a favored target of the IDF. People trying to bring the sick and wounded are shot at by IDF snipers. At some point, the risk of getting shot is not worth bringing a dead body to a hospital just so someone can verify that the person is dead. Again, there must be numbers of these people who die in the tents or the rubble and are buried without official notice.
4) UNWRA has not been able to deliver food to northern Gaza since Jan. 23. The World Food Program suspended food deliveries last week. People in northern Gaza are literally collapsing in the streets due to starvation. (No, I don’t mean they are falling over dead, but they have lost too much bodily strength to handle much walking, searching for food and shelter, etc. They are close to death.). And the reports about the Israelis holding back the food and medical aid are rife, as are the reports about the Israeli civilians blocking the roads so the trucks can’t get in. No need to go into that at length.
5) Israel has targeted bakeries, food warehouses, and mills. Only 15 bakeries are still in operation in northern Gaza. 1/4 of the farm holdings have been completely destroyed there, and the Palestinians are not allowed access to what remains. The IDF shoots anyone trying to get to the farms. Over 46% of all cropland in Gaza as a whole is damaged. Most greenhouses are gone. All the poultry is gone as far as anyone can tell, and it is estimated that 65% of calves and 70% of beef cattle are gone. These are estimates because as I just said, the IDF shoots anyone trying to get to the farms. Most of the olive groves have been uprooted by the Israelis.
6) In Gaza as a whole, the water supply is at only 7% of the pre-October levels. The desalination plants no longer work. 1/4 of all the wells have been destroyed. All the water is toxic and/or salty. The average household has to make do with just one liter per person per day, versus the recommended minimum of 15 liters.
7) Palestinians who try to fish in the Red Sea are shot by Israeli snipers and drones.
My numbers 4 through 7 show that the Palestinians have been prevented from all methods of providing for themselves at this point.
8) Over 90 percent of children aged 6-23 months and pregnant and breastfeeding women are in severe food poverty, eating two or fewer food groups per day—and food of the lowest nutritional value. With their immune systems weakened, 90 percent of children under 5 have at least one infectious disease. Roughly 70 percent have had diarrhea in the last two weeks.
According to a new poll conducted in Israel, nearly 70 percent of Israeli Jews are in favor of blocking humanitarian aid coordinated by international agencies to Gaza. You’d think they’d consider the fact that if the food doesn’t get in, Hamas will have no food for the Israeli prisoners they are holding, but these people seem rather too dim-witted and vicious to take that into account.
Given the givens, we may never know the full extent or the exact dates that starvation deaths began in Gaza, but I personally have no doubt it started a few months ago and that there is not any reliable way to count the numbers. Hell, the Israelis even dig up the cemeteries and bulldoze the bodies - no-one will be able to look at the bodies later to try to figure out who died from what.
Anything in this comment that states percentages or numbers comes from media sources, but I can’t put that many links in one comment. And please don’t ask me to go back and post all the links. I assure you I did not make any numbers up. However, I think you can tell the difference between the statistics and my suppositions by my wording in all of the above. Sorry this is so long. It’s just that it is so incredible to see it all in one place and as I started typing, I realized that maybe this larger picture would also be informative to others. The Palestinians are not ‘in danger of starving’; they are currently dying of starvation and have been for awhile.
Posted by: teri | Feb 28 2024 23:47 utc | 36
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war." the Mossad Motto is the perfect description of how they do things. For most militaries and cultures, deception is a tool to be used. For the Israelis it is a way of life.
Posted by: Jo P | Feb 28 2024 23:51 utc | 37
teri @37
"No, I don’t mean they are falling over dead, but they have lost too much bodily strength to handle much walking, searching for food and shelter, etc. They are close to death.)."
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An awful irony:
In Auschwitz such people, near death from starvation, just barely standing were labeled "Moslems" (Musselmaener). This was not because they actually were Moslems, or Muslims.
"What does Musselman mean in German? Muslim German term meaning "Muslim," widely used by concentration camp prisoners to refer to inmates who were on the verge of death from starvation, exhaustion, and despair. A person who had reached the Muselmann stage had little, if any, chance for survival and usually died within weeks."
More likely within days.
Israel is a Savage State.
Worse than Auschwitz.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 29 2024 0:10 utc | 38
The entire world has been in protest against the U.S. and Israeli war crimes being carried out in Gaza. As they did in Atlanta, the corporate media discredit any action that exposes the ongoing genocide.Even after the Republic of South Africa brought charges of genocide against Israel to the International Court of Justice (ICJ),the media still worked hard to hide and to obfuscate on behalf of the state.The ICJ declared the genocide charge “plausible” but the
misleading New York Times headline read
in part,“The top United Nations court in
The Hague did not rule on whether Israel
was committing genocide in Gaza .”
The New York Times and other media are still up to their old tricks. Along with the Washington Post, Reuters, and CNN
they reported on the death by self-
immolation of Aaron Bushnell without
mentioning the words Palestine, Gaza,
or genocide. On February 25, 2024, Bushnell, a cyber defense operations specialist with the 531st Intelligence Support Squadron, self-immolated at the Israeli embassy in Washington. He set up his phone to record dousing himself with a flammable liquid, lighting a match, and yelling, “Free Palestine” repeatedly until he collapsed.
https://www.blackagendareport.com/what-aaron-bushnell-had-teach-us
What can we do to break this bubble imposed by the Zionist media? Anything would be better than hand wringing and cursing, and would better serve Bushnell's memory.
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Feb 29 2024 0:37 utc | 39
Menz 23
With 100 years to think about hostage taking , Israel long ago decided on the Hannibal option, to kill Israelis in danger of becoming hostages, and fot themselves take hostage thousands more Palestians.
The idea that Israel wants its hostages back is wrong. This is mentioned in the Qur'an, that Jews historically oppressed some groups from their own community and took hostages from them to trade for their own political goals, when they had been commanded not to oppress their own own brethren.
Jews are not allowed to do what Likud has done, to ignore their own public opinion and to launch a genocide against their neighbouring Muslims.
Norxare they allowed to kill their own citizens , nor are they allowed to lie to their own community about who killed whom on Oct 7.
Netanyahu is a student of Western politics, not of Judaism, and his father was a disciple of Jabotinsky Nazism. Neither of them rabbis and neither of them qualified to lead a Jewish nation.
What would you say for example if England , a thousand years Chritian country was suddenly ruled by a Hindu? Can a Hindu rule a Christiam country, or a zionist like Starmer?
Today , I refused to work for a practising Jewish customer, because most Practising Jews have refused to challenge the Nazi doctrine of Netanyahu..
Do English Christians and Jews think they can witness Israel genocide of Muslims in Palestine and their relationship with Muslims stays unchanged?
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 0:45 utc | 40
Michigan’s primary results are telling for how Palestine may affect Biden’s election campaign. It’s not just that “uncommitted” took 14% of the dem vote. It’s also that the GOP total turnout for a foregone conclusion was 25% higher than the dem turnout. Nikki Haley got 50% of Biden’s vote total, and she lost bigly. Trump exceeded Biden’s total by more than the uncommitted vote. It’s almost more important that dem numbers are so low. A lot of people the Dems count on to win the state didn’t even bother.
A reminder that Clinton lost Michigan by 10,000 votes in 2016 and it was very problematic for her campaign. If there’s going to be any intraparty pressure on Biden to bring Israel to heel, it’s now. I don’t think the pressure will change anything, but I also think that Biden has lost the election because of Gaza.
Posted by: Lex | Feb 29 2024 0:56 utc | 41
Here is a potential bright side to recent events that will take time to realize
The United States has officially lost any ability to assign ANY moral judgement on other nations
no longer can it legitimately sanction other nations for not allowing gay marriage or a slightly undemocratic component
nor can it use such excuses for invasion or military action
ALL US foreign policy can only be legitimately described as it appears, enforcing the Unipolar world order
Posted by: Earl Jones | Feb 29 2024 1:22 utc | 42
Lex 42
These early election events are used to gauge how many false ballots needed to be generated for the most zionist people to win. I am sure the US electorate is savvy enough to understand that Trump's a white supremacist Zionist and not vote for him, even if they agree with his case that the last election was rigged against him.
Trump is a MAGGOTT, Biden is a Fly.
I hate to think what kind of a fly Trump will turn into if he wins.
Maybe make Jerusalem the Capital of
the Western world and declare the entire Western world under the ZioNazi jackboot.
Christian America needs to rise up against this genocide. None of the
same, recycled platitudes will win.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 1:31 utc | 43
Giyane 44
This crap with Israel is making some liberals heads explode, they are checking out
atleast the ones that pay attention to real sources-not the Maddow liberals like your mom
They do not want to accept the fact that zionist control our congress, they can no longer point fingers in any direction
they are checking out, which is bad bc we need to force them to confront reality
Everyone needs to come to accept that zionist control US foreign Policy and with US leverage-pulls all western leaning nations towards accepting zionist desires.
Ukraine war is ZIonist objective, Russia disfigured is zionist objective, Palestine falling is zionist objective
none of above can be achieved without zionist control of our congress
Posted by: Earl Jones | Feb 29 2024 1:41 utc | 44
Knesset is mulling a law to jail Christians for one year, two years for a child for talking to a jew about religion.
Apparently the guy tries to push this law through regularly. I don't think I've ever seen usa Christians ever speak up against this in any meaningful way regarding their unwavering support financially and in ideology
Posted by: Hankster | Feb 29 2024 1:41 utc | 45
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In Britain it is now very clear that no Conserbative MP at all , and no Labour MP supporters of Kier Starmer and the Genocide in Palestine can keep their seat in the 2024 election.
The voting will be decided by individual MP or Party policy on The Genocide. I have never voted Conservative in my life, but if a Tory candidate stated he or she was anti Israel's Genocide, I would vote for them.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 1:47 utc | 46
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 0:45 utc | 41
Seneca - 'Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.'
Posted by: Siddhartha | Feb 29 2024 1:58 utc | 47
Earl Jones 45
Any country in the West that algorithms a pro Genocide outcome will face a revolution. There can only be so much disconnect between politicians and the people.
France's Revolution in 1789 permanently destroyed France as a nation. If the West wants its own disintegration , and they impose ZioFascism on the people, the people will rightly and justly disintegrate their nation states by Revolution.
It's either Revolution or Fascism.
Nothing in between. Make or break.
The politicians' choice. If they miscalculate popular opinion that will be the end of Western Civilisation.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 2:06 utc | 48
"France's Revolution in 1789 permanently destroyed France as a nation."
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 2:06 utc | 49
Really?
France under Napoleon took almost all of Europe over the next 20 years and were within a hair's breadth of taking Russia.
What histories are you reading?
Pasted this in the Aaron thread not noticing this one had started. Reports indicate he had a Security clearance and that US personnel are fighting on ground in Gaza. The only video I watched on all this shows a US-looking military type holding open a wire fence and motorcycles going through, purportedly on Oct 7th, i.e. they were ushered in. But videos can be manipulated and staged in all sorts of ways which is why I hardly ever watch them. The previous post:
No idea if accurate, but this is a story out there. Forgive if already posted, not keeping up with all comments:
Aaron Bushnell, US Air Force airman reportedly shared secret knowledge of US troops fighting in Hamas tunnels in Gaza, just hours ahead of his death. These were claims made by his friend who spoke to him a day before he killed himself. On Sunday morning, 25-year-old airman who served in the Air Force’s 70th Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) Wing, set himself on fire outside the Israeli Embassy over US stand on Gaza crisis. He later succumbed to his injuries.Aaron ranted that he had “top-secret clearance” for military intelligence data in a call to his friend on Saturday night, The Post reported. “He told me on Saturday that we have troops in those tunnels, that it’s US soldiers participating in the killings,’’ the friend claimed.
The friend went on to suggest that Aaron had stated US had troops on the ground, who were killing large numbers of Palestinians. The friend believes these claims may be true as Aaron’s job was to process intelligence data and some of that was linked to Gaza conflict. “One of the things he told me is that coming across his desk … was the US military was involved in the genocides going on in Palestine,’’ an unnamed friend was quoted by The Post.
Siddhartha 48
That's what I mean , Seneca was a Roman. Political Islam adopts Roman cynicism, but real Islam, real Judaism or real Christianity will no longer tolerate Roman cynicism in the face of the Israeli genocide of Palestinians.
Western Civilisation will disintegrate if the Entire Muslim world , playing by Western cynicism rules , fails to prevent this genocide.
The Western populations won't tolerate it and nor will the Muslim populations. Western Civilisation is begging for its own destruction if it fails to listen to.popular opinion.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 2:31 utc | 51
What histories are you reading?
Posted by: canuck | Feb 29 2024 2:22 utc | 50
Salaam. The official ones will do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capetian_dynasty
I happen to share this opinion. That dynasty lasted a long time. The revolution destroyed the ancient regime but to date has failed to provide a stable, lasting, socio-political alternative for the French. Which republic are the French in now? Number what?
France used to be the glory of Europe..but then she turned her back on God, the very same God that saved her from the much and justly maligned English.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Joan_of_Arc_miniature_graded.jpg
Fidelity.
God Loves it. But do not lose hope France, ALLAH is Forgiving and Merciful.
Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 29 2024 2:48 utc | 53
Jacobians and their supreme evil should be studied by all
Posted by: Exile | Feb 29 2024 2:55 utc | 54
If there’s going to be any intraparty pressure on Biden to bring Israel to heel, it’s now. I don’t think the pressure will change anything, but I also think that Biden has lost the election because of Gaza.
Posted by: Lex | Feb 29 2024 0:56 utc | 42
Biden knows that if the Zionists feel he is insufficiently committed to the Israel project, they will throw their support, financial, political and media, towards Trump.
The media will be filled with stories about his old he is, and his fellow Dems will be calling for him to drop out of the race. They will do as they are told by The Lobby as long as their own seats are secure.
If he stays the course, the odds are that he will still win blue Michigan like he did in 2020, and in the unlikely case he loses it to Trump, he has a good chance of picking up the perennial swing state of Florida.
Posted by: Delhiliterally | Feb 29 2024 3:31 utc | 56
Usa troops in Gaza was no secret. There was video of usa voices ordering civilians to leave the famous video of a group of usa soldiers cheering to being told its Gaza hunting season a few months back. Other various videos of foreign troops fighting within the IDf With their flag chevrons. UsA special forces was mentioned being there and later outed by a medal presentation meeting with the president with non blurred photos. That's just off my head ,I'm sure there's way more evidence
Posted by: Hankster | Feb 29 2024 3:39 utc | 57
Quotes from Burning Mans recent reddit posts:
"Whiteness erases culture."
"Classic colonizer brain."
"“Common sense gun control” should mean disarming the police and military first."
Self hating whites are now literally killing themselves. This is your brain on communist propaganda.
Posted by: Jack A | Feb 29 2024 4:06 utc | 58
On a related note from The Register
US military pulls the trigger, uses AI to target air strikes
https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/27/us_military_maven_ai_used/
the quote
The US Department of Defense has deployed machine learning algorithms to identify targets in over 85 air strikes on targets in Iraq and Syria this year.The Pentagon has done this sort of thing since at least 2017 when it launched Project Maven, which sought suppliers capable of developing object recognition software for footage captured by drones. Google pulled out of the project when its own employees revolted against using AI for warfare, but other tech firms have been happy to help out.
....
"The DoD has an imperative to responsibly pursue the adoption of generative AI models while identifying proper protective measures and mitigating national security risks that may result from issues such as poorly managed training data," he said. "We must also consider the extent to which our adversaries will employ this technology and seek to disrupt our own use of AI-based solutions."
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 29 2024 4:50 utc | 59
France under Napoleon took almost all of Europe over the next 20 years and were within a hair's breadth of taking Russia.
What histories are you reading?
Posted by: canuck | Feb 29 2024 2:22 utc | 50
In Napoleon's eyes, they TOOK Russia- but Moscow proved to be a trap and the Grande Armee was destroyed. Taking Russia has never been as easy as taking, say, Austria. Seizing the capital just doesn't cut it.
Beyond that, I think the basic meaning of Giyane's post is that the French Revolution was a liberal capitalist revolution. Such revolutions ultimately destroy any nation where they are allowed to remain in power. Just look at US, UK, Canada.
Posted by: Honzo | Feb 29 2024 4:53 utc | 60
Yemen - FGS Hessen F221 fired 2 AA missiles at MQ 9, apparently both "failed". Hope same happens again when Yemen targets it.
RIP Aaron - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JAEVBE5A1Y&t=3s
Where's Larry, Scott et al?
Posted by: Suresh | Feb 29 2024 5:35 utc | 61
Suresh,
The Hessen fired those missiles at a big US drone (the size of a 737).
B. Has a whole article on the SNAFU posted.
Posted by: Exile | Feb 29 2024 5:52 utc | 62
Posted by: Honzo | Feb 29 2024 4:53 utc | 61Beyond that, I think the basic meaning of Giyane's post is that the French Revolution was a liberal capitalist revolution. Such revolutions ultimately destroy any nation where they are allowed to remain in power. Just look at US, UK, Canada.
I did a quick search for 'was Napoleon Illuminati?' and got:
Father Deschamps writes of him: “Napoleon Bonaparte was in effect an advanced Freemason, and his reign has been the most flourishing epoch of Freemasonry. During the reign of terror, the Grand Orient ceased its activity. The moment Napoleon seized power the lodges were opened in every place.”I have said that the revolutionary rulers in France were all Illuminati—that is Freemasons of the most pronounced type—whose ultimate aim was the destruction of every existing religion and form of secular government, ,b>in order to found an atheistic, social republic, which would extend throughout the world and embrace all mankind.
https://veteranstoday.com/2021/12/28/napoleon-and-freemasonry/
Veterans Today is usually pretty good, and not much into conspiracy stuff. Anyway, if you are right that this was liberal capitalist, then liberal capitalist is also a conspiracy-driven front (as was communism a century or so later perpetrated by the same networks though with a different generation of stooges and saps) to overthrow the old orders and replace them with the 'atheistic, social republics' which we now see all over the world today. They have succeeded, albeit it seems such secularism is increasingly past its due date. A 250 year subversive power grab violating basic laws of human nature and Primordial Nature running out of road...
For a little more about the background to the French Revolution, I recommend John Robison's Proofs of a Conspiracy written in the 1790s.
PROOFS OF A CONSPIRACY AGAINST ALL THE RELIGIONS AND GOVERNMENTS OF EUROPE, CARRIED ON IN THE SECRET MEETINGS OF FREE MASONS, ILLUMINATI, AND READING SOCIETIES, COLLECTED FROM GOOD AUTHORITIES, BY JOHN ROBISON, A. M. PROFESSOR OF NATURAL PHILOSOPHY, AND SECRETARY TO THE ROYAL SOCIETY OF EDINBURGH.Nam tua res agitur paries cum proximo ardet.
...[1798]
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Posted by: Menz | Feb 29 2024 7:57 utc | 64
God Loves it. But do not lose hope France, ALLAH is Forgiving and Merciful.
Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 29 2024 2:48 utc | 54
Read R.A.Heinlein: "Book of Job, a comedy of justice" for the truth about god.
( playing poker with the devil and doing ammoral bets )
and there is no god. only ground based "janitors" faking her existence.
Posted by: MAKK | Feb 29 2024 8:25 utc | 65
Honzo 61
The idea in my mind about the French Revolution is that the Royal Court locked up in Versailles was completely out of touch with reality, like the present day ALT Right of Western countries, which actually believes that its capitalism works when in reality it survives using colonisation and resource-grabbing by force.
The Freemasonry of the Revolutionaries of 1789 that created this tripe of Liberal capitalism has its equivalent today and it is called
Eschatalogical Zionism, aka Political Islam aka Evangelical US Christianity. All of these three monsters use terrorism as their main tool of change and 24/7 spying as their main tool of governance, Hamas included, and I agree with Putin that any child could have predicted this genocide, but the Muslim Brothethood Freemasons wanted Change and Power.
It's up to what's left of sane Islam to mop up the catastrophe of the insanity of these three terrorist mafia. Imo the actions of Likud ZioNazism, Ethingy Christianity and Political Islam are all equally criminal and blameworthy.
It's good for the world that a man of faith Vladimir Putin , has built a strong intellectual and military opposition to the TRINITY of political Eschatolgy Freemasons.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 9:32 utc | 66
This is a few days old. I can't remember anyone posting this speech . It outlines how the very legal basis for the existence of Israel as a state doesn't exist going over league of nations convention and onto further illegal actions by the British. 26 minutes at the IJC
https://youtu.be/fRn4qYAORAE?si=5UDMQcWYnc04OGMq
Posted by: Hankster | Feb 29 2024 10:01 utc | 67
67
the hidden hand go to any national portrait gallery
when i was a child i thought all these hero had only one hand as they where alawys hiding it
the hidden hand also look out for the weird claw many masonic variations even spock did these demonic hand gestures
Nesta Webster’s 1919 account of the French Revolution is real history about the living and breathing human beings who shaped the course of events. Official histories of the Revolution spout the same claptrap about how the events of 1789 up to the Napoleonic era ushered in a new dawn of Liberty, Equality and Fraternity etc. Contrarily, Webster weaves the tapestry of traumatic events that occurred during these years together to give a startlingly prescient picture of how a self-appointed elite comprised of atheistic lawyers, Orleanist conspirators and not a few power-hungry psychopaths (Marat, St Juste and Robespierre to name just three of many) manipulated the French masses into committing atrocities each of which advanced their megalomanic agenda another step forward.
The revolutionary elite’s MOD (modus operandi) was to hijack the government by spinning a web of illusion. They orchestrated dramatic symbolic events like the storming of the Bastille, the March on Versailles and the Great Fear (1789). They used the press to spread revolutionary propaganda and pornographic smears against the Louis XVI, Marie Antoinette and the Church. They used the grain monopoly to horde and withhold supplies from the bread-hungry Parisienne masses and blame the aristocrats and the royals for the “famine” that inevitably ensued. Thereby they had revolutionary violence on tap as required to advance their project of usurping the ancient regime and installing all power in the hands of a new Godless state. They held the royal family and the French public hostage as pawns in their political game. The guillotine in Paris and mass shootings across the countryside became their indispensable weapons of choice against those they perceived to be enemies of the state.
In other words, Webster has laid bare the official lies used to obscure how history actually takes place. Behind the principal actors there are always elites who play God by orienting humanity in their chosen direction. Webster sub-titled her work: A Study in Democracy. Her lesson in how the public can be manipulated by a ruthless revolutionary elite into pursuing empty and demonstrably contradictory abstract ideas like Liberty, Equality and Fraternity and sacrificing copious amounts of their own blood on the way vainly seeking to achieve them is a salutary one indeed.
As Webster demonstrates, the French public were never reconciled to the goals of the Revolution. The royal family were still popular even after their fated Flight to Varennes. By the time they realised that the enlightened rule of Louis XVI had been usurped by a bloodthirsty dictatorship it was too late.
Posted by: todd | Feb 29 2024 10:03 utc | 68
Israeli troops gun down thousands of Palestinians awaiting aid in north Gaza - The Cradle:
Posted by: Vortex | Feb 29 2024 10:03 utc | 69
The reason that no Muslim country other than Lebanon and Yemen have engaged in jihad against Israel is that their religious leaderships are fully engaged with the West's Evangelist/ZioNazist pathology. The religious elites only see and envy Western Power. All collaborate to obtain it. But in every Muslim country the ordinary people and their imams reject what politic Islam is doing.
In Islam , personal ambition for power excludes you from becoming a leader. This genocide in Palestine , the murder the starvation and the humiliation are all created by Political Islam , trying to seize power, which is not the method of Islam. The method of Islam is to win hearts and minds by gracious actions.
Hopefully this century of corruption since the removal of the Ottomans will end the fake bluff of Political Islam, that collaboration with Islam's enemies will provide Power.
Allah says the Jews will never give you as much power as the tiny black dot on a datestone. Political Islam is now under caution / probation and will be sentenced to the dustbin of history very soon.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 10:33 utc | 70
How 'sustainable' is the destruction of Gaza and the dehumanization of anyone who dare showing empathy in the UK and Germany, for example?
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 29 2024 10:42 utc | 71
Biden’s campaign raised $145.4 million from Californians in 2020. This January, he raised $42 million alone and has raised more money this early in a campaign than any candidate in history.
https://twitter.com/joshua_landis/status/1762609439830360187
Posted by: Menz | Feb 28 2024 21:36 utc | 24
Money, money everywhere,
And all the trust did shrink;
Money , money everywhere,
Nor any sense to drink.
France under Napoleon took almost all of Europe over the next 20 years and were within a hair's breadth of taking Russia.
What histories are you reading?
Posted by: canuck | Feb 29 2024 2:22 utc | 50
In Napoleon's eyes, they TOOK Russia- but Moscow proved to be a trap and the Grande Armee was destroyed. Taking Russia has never been as easy as taking, say, Austria. Seizing the capital just doesn't cut it.
Beyond that, I think the basic meaning of Giyane's post is that the French Revolution was a liberal capitalist revolution. Such revolutions ultimately destroy any nation where they are allowed to remain in power. Just look at US, UK, Canada.
Posted by: Honzo | Feb 29 2024 4:53 utc | 61
No, the French revolution was against tyranny and the Noblesse oblige whom did not take care of the Serfs. The bad harvest of 1788 was the breaking point-France was broke the Nobles wouldn't pay taxes the overtaxed people starved such that the political dam broke.
"Liberal capitalist revolution"-that is total nonsense: Giyan simply inventing a complex conspiracy theory where, see above, that was what happened.
And, if this 'liberal capitalist revolution' was so organized why did its leader, Robespierre die a year after the terror in the Thermidorian reaction?
Occam's razor-the King and the Nobility indirectly starved the tax ridden Serfs, the Serf rebelled, the new leaders went too far in their blood thirst and immolated themselves.
End of story.
canuck 74
http:/www.the.guardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-steve-bell-cartoon
The Western politicians who support the US genocide of Palestinians will ask in the Court of Allah:
Why is this Court still open?
Okay Darling?
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 12:30 utc | 74
Don’t worry about Napoleon and old history ! Look at 7-800 wounded 300 serious and over 100 killed in a queue for food ? What military geniuses ! War criminals ! Does that shake the narrative ? Headless babies ? God made me do it ? Sell that history ! Sell that supporters of filth !
Posted by: Paleologos | Feb 29 2024 12:43 utc | 75
Paleologos @ 76
Thanks for your anger and emotion.
Your a good man.
Respect
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 29 2024 13:00 utc | 76
> the psycho trio
@todd
Salaam.
This film has survived multiple viewing by me and imo is minimally a solid cinematic effort and possibly informative of the topic at hand. It is fair to say that this film is biased.
Danton | D'Andrzej Wajda | 1983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-b7Rtu-nuk
@Scorpion
Salaam.
Can't find this film -- maybe a barfly knows -- but a b/w movie from 40s or possibly even earlier, about the miraculous return of the emperor of the French from first exile. In this film, a representative from Banksters in Enland shows up and basically tells N that his return is green lighted. Napoleon apparently also strongly entertained the notion of creating a "homeland for Jews" - something that made the news in Paris in 1799.
Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 29 2024 13:03 utc | 77
My memory is that at the beginning of this rampage against the Palestinians, Putin gathered the three main religious leaders in his country to demonstrate how those faiths viewed one another in harmony there. He gave the example, which the western leaders supporting the Zionists have ignored to their ultimate destruction. Before all eyes the Zionists and their supporters continue to lay bare their atrocities, from which even now the youth of western countries cannot avoid the awareness that they themselves also are being stripped of their youthful hopes and dreams.
Have courage, young people! There are still men and women of good heart who will support your ambitions if you can just follow those precepts you hold within yourselves. If you feel helpless, pray, and do your best for those around you while encouraging others with your fortitude.
Have courage! And know that whatever you do, small and large, for your fellow human beings, it will not be done in vain. You are our future; make it so!
God bless and keep safe Palestinians everywhere; we are they; more importantly YOU are they! Hold fast to the good!
Posted by: juliania | Feb 29 2024 15:11 utc | 78
"Israel is a Savage State."
@ Jane | Feb 29 2024 0:10 utc | 39
That could be the title of a book, one that should be written.
@ Vortex | Feb 29 2024 10:03 utc | 70
My god. The Israelis are crazed. Jane put it well - a savage state.
Posted by: teri | Feb 29 2024 15:15 utc | 79
@ Vortex | Feb 29 2024 10:03 utc | 70
I just went to yahoo news - this latest killing spree by the IDF is the top story at yahoo today. That is remarkable in itself.
Here are two quotes from the AP article exposing how the Israelis explain it vs how the Palestinians experienced it:
"...Israeli officials acknowledged that troops opened fire, saying they did so after the crowd approached in a threatening way. The officials insisted on anonymity to give details about what happened, after the military said in a statement that “dozens were killed and injured from pushing, trampling and being run over by the trucks....”
"...In addition to at least 104 people killed, around 760 were wounded, Health Ministry spokesman Ashraf al-Qidra said. The Health Ministry described it as a 'massacre.' ..."
https://news.yahoo.com/strike-palestinians-waiting-aid-gaza-085752518.html
The article, which I read after I read the one @ the Cradle that you linked to, seems to be fairly even-handed for a mainstream media piece. It even takes pains to point out that the Israelis deliberately targeted people more than once and ran over some of the injured and dead with trucks after they were on the ground. The Israelis deserve whatever blowback they get from this and all the other evils they have done to the Palestinians.
Posted by: teri | Feb 29 2024 15:38 utc | 80
If there are aspects of "Israeli" culture which explain jews violent hatred and racism toward Muslims, it's their brief history and a complete absence of Cultural Traditions spanning thousands of years - unlike their post-18th Century neighbors in The Cradle Of Civilization.
They don't actually have a culture worth talking about and can't even invent one until they've erased as much evidence of Arab Culture as possible.
Hence the destruction and looting of Iraq and other ancient Arab nations; which is still on "Israel's" Cultural Cringe agenda and will remain there until "Israel" persuades its Christian Jew$lave$ to destroy Iran.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 29 2024 16:49 utc | 81
"there are aspects of "Israeli" culture which explain jews violent hatred and racism toward Muslims"
They identify all Muslim as Arabs and their bible tells them that Edom and Moab and Amalek, aka the ancestors of the "ismaelites" and "saracens" according to the scriptures, both jewish and christian, should be exterminated.
Posted by: Minaa | Feb 29 2024 17:04 utc | 82
Scorpion | Feb 29 2024 6:17 utc | 64 ....
But weren't aristocrats -- maybe the French king himself -- Freemasons as well?
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 29 2024 18:09 utc | 83
Would all those who think that "Royalty" and its attendant pyramid of perpetual aristocracy is such a good thing that must not be overthrown, care to explain jut how the hell these self-appointed masters acquired their power, wealth and land in the first place?
(hint : it helped rather a lot to be descended from psychopathic, enslaving robber-barons and later on business cut-throats, spivs and financial extortionists as well)
And why they in turn should not be crushed?
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 29 2024 18:23 utc | 84
sunof27 | Feb 29 2024 13:03 utc | 78
*** Can't find this film -- maybe a barfly knows -- but a b/w movie from 40s or possibly even earlier, about the miraculous return of the emperor of the French from first exile. In this film, a representative from Banksters in Enland shows up and basically tells N that his return is green lighted. Napoleon apparently also strongly entertained the notion of creating a "homeland for Jews" - something that made the news in Paris in 1799.***
Beware of propaganda, then or later. There is also an allegation that Napoleon became a Moslem.
Either could be built on him just finding some ideas interesting -- or on nothing.
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 29 2024 18:37 utc | 85
Quote:
“I am personally proud of the ruins in Gaza,” says Israeli minister May Golan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya-dN9D4Y0E
Posted by: WMG | Feb 29 2024 19:01 utc | 86
Posted by: Lysias | Feb 29 2024 19:27 utc | 88
*** Louis XVI was a devout Catholic.***
So?
Presumably, so was the Vatican's banker Calvi who allegedly hung himself in a strangely Masonic style off a bridge in London on the 1980s. Pockets filled with bricks, and hands tied behind his back.
Expect there's pretty much nothing the Vatican isn't into, some way. Its top security archives must have some *very* interesting stuff. Also bear in mind that many "Royals" and "aristocrats" are Masons.
And that at each level up, what members were told prior to then was bullshit.
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 29 2024 19:50 utc | 88
Al-Qassem Daily SitRep
https://english.almanar.com.lb/2055931
Comment - bunch of ambushes, building blown up with IDF inside, 3 Merkava’s ‘targeted’ ( not added to running tally of 168 knocked out ) plus 2 bulldozers also hit.
The last few days feels like reports from Stalingrad fighting. Poor IDF out in the open, while Arabs can shoot and scoot into their underground fortress. The mental stress on those 3 IDF brigades remaining inside Gaza must be immense.
Question Barflies - have anyone read any notice of IDF troop rotations ?
Posted by: Exile | Feb 29 2024 20:29 utc | 89
iZrael is the envy of every Wastern Democracy,
military censors have the last word about what is published.
That, of course, was a bit of sarcasm.
In the US, the CIA has the *first* word about what the legacy media publishes.
Here is a quote from an iZrael news source:
It is important to clarify from the outset that even today we can only tell a small part of the story.-- Yoav Limor for Israel Hayom, 12/04/2023
What is being published here has been approved by the military censor after the requisite issues of
critical importance to national security were edited out.
After iZrael's war on humanity has paused, iZrael will conduct investigations into "what went wrong",
so it claims.
They will start with a false assumption as expressed by this iZraeli writer:
When the investigative committee is formed after the war, its findings will expose the details
of what happened and the negligence that occurred, the lack of professionalism, and the failed
handling of intelligence. It will also shed light on unsuitable individuals appointed to highly
sensitive positions as the heads of listening units and geographical subunits, some of whom did
not even answer the phone to join a consultation held in the hours preceding the attack,
against the backdrop of accumulating troubling intelligence.
-- Yoav Limor for Israel Hayom, 11/23/2023
"Negligence that occurred, the lack of professionalism,..." these are the pretexts, the planned cover up,
to what actually happened - an Intentional Defense Failure (IDF).
By the reckoning of Yoav Limor, the incompetent will conduct a competent investigation into the
incompetence that led to this war.
And they will get away with it (again).
It is all cover up.
---
What key piece of investigative evidence could potentially break it open for honest iZaeli investigators
to the realization that it was an Intentional Defense Failure?
Would that evidence be that they gave a thumbs-down to written reports by intelligence officers
warning of an imminent Oct 7th?
Perhaps the key is that they ignored the alerts being sounded by border watchers.
They had Hamas' detailed jail break plan a year in advance!
The political/intelligence/military heirarchy all read Hamas' plan!
Is this the key?
Once the jail break was under way support troops in force were delayed for hours.
That seems a key avenue for investigation.
Who was handling the HUMINT - the spooks infiltrating Gaza? What were the spooks reporting
and how was that information handled?
What did the satellites show?
Months before Oct 7th, they made a change and restricted access to the information gained
from monitoring Hamas' hand-held radio network
to a select few insiders.
Now *that* is an extremely suspicious action and should get the attention of honest investigators.
Why would they want to hide information from their own intelligence officers?
iZrael claims that they stopped monitoring Hamas' hand-held radio network altogether.
There was no "insider group", there was no monitoring being done at all.
A spurious claim, why would they ham-string themselves like that?
They brag on the sophistication of their security devices and software, even bragging on their cutting edge use of AI.
Why would they ham-string themselves and stop that monitoring?
It points to a select group of insiders that controlled what the ranks could learn.
Despite this there were "lower level" intelligence officers who warned in writing of an imminent Oct 7th attack.
Perhaps the key is all of the above seen together.
ps. Do not expect an investigation into the use of the Hannibal Directive and the casualties it caused,
though this is key to motive. The Hannibal Directive escalated the casualty count and achieved
the sought after blood lust in the iZrael citizenry, so that they would support the true goal of the
Intentional Defense Failure - the complete ownership of the West Bank, Gaza and the offshore gas fields.
Posted by: librul | Mar 1 2024 14:59 utc | 90
@Posted by: librul | Mar 1 2024 14:59 utc | 91
Oh for heck's sake.
I left out a real key piece.
The IDF withdrew the majority of their forces around Gaza
just prior to Oct 7th.
*That* was a critical so-called "mistake".
Posted by: librul | Mar 1 2024 15:05 utc | 91
Chris Hedges, on Aaron Bushnell's "sublime madness":
But to go to this extreme requires what the theologian Reinhold Niebuhr calls “a sublime madness in the soul.” He notes that “nothing but such madness will do battle with malignant power and spiritual wickedness in high places.” This madness is dangerous, but it is necessary when confronting radical evil because without it “truth is obscured.” Liberalism, Niebuhr warns, “lacks the spirit of enthusiasm, not to say fanaticism, which is so necessary to move the world out of its beaten tracks. It is too intellectual and too little emotional to be an efficient force in history.”
https://scheerpost.com/2024/03/01/chris-hedges-aaron-bushnells-divine-violence/
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 1 2024 18:10 utc | 92
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 1 2024 18:10 utc | 93
Shame on Chris hedges for that bunch of lies.
When most people hear the word madness they think automatically of mental illness, not of being angry.
There is absolutely zero evidence that the Honorable Aaron Bushnell had any sort of mental illness, and suggesting that he did is a terrible, untrue thing to hurl at his brave final act and his memory.
Furthermore, to suggest that being intelligent and rational and calmly proceeding in the direction of ridding ourselves of the root cause of human miseries, is not enough and will never be enough to achieve the great change we need into a better world - no, we must have some special hocuspocus form of madness and nothing else can help - is just beyond the pale of misdirection, stupidity, fatalism which is a self-fulfilling prophesy ...
Seriously, what the fuck is this bullshit being spewed? A lame attempt to make everyone despair and thereby keep them from acting for change?
?????
Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Mar 1 2024 18:34 utc | 93
Self hating whites are now literally killing themselves. This is your brain on communist propaganda.
Posted by: Jack A | Feb 29 2024 4:06 utc | 59
This is the end state of centuries of imperialism.
Future generations of 'whites' look back at their ancestors and realise the moral portrait painted for them was a facade.
The they turn in against themselves.
You call it "self hatred "... I call it karma.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 1 2024 18:51 utc | 94
"The DoD has an imperative to responsibly pursue the adoption of generative AI models while identifying proper protective measures and mitigating national security risks that may result from issues such as poorly managed training data," he said. "We must also consider the extent to which our adversaries will employ this technology and seek to disrupt our own use of AI-based solutions."
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 29 2024 4:50 utc | 60
I suspect the a.i will prove better at discerning good guys from bad guys than their creators.
Stay tuned for reports of 'friendly' fire from drone targeting computers...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 1 2024 19:05 utc | 95
The mass of humanity is quite sane but is ruled by the insane and that is what Bushnell wanted us all to know.'
https://www.blackagendareport.com/what-aaron-bushnell-had-teach-us
Posted by: bevin | Feb 28 2024 22:08 utc | 30
Sorry, wrong.
No mass of humanity that permits the insane to rule over it can be considered "sane".
The very participation in a joint hallucination placing the insane in rulership over one's self is madness.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 1 2024 19:14 utc | 96
https://www.answercoalition.org/rafah_protest
tommorrow. world wide. find a protest near you to attend. scroll down to see all the locations thus far.
Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Mar 1 2024 22:08 utc | 97
Live group discussion of palestine now. 14:57 PST
https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1gqxvQdXeoaJB?s=20
Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 1 2024 22:57 utc | 98
An anthem for the resistance.
https://youtu.be/RRKJiM9Njr8?si=5wuK0O5vruak-0IK
It defines me.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 2 2024 1:58 utc | 99
https://www.answercoalition.org/rafah_protest
tommorrow. world wide. find a protest near you to attend. scroll down to see all the locations thus far.
Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Mar 1 2024 22:08 utc | 98
Thanks from Nanaimo, BC, fascist Canada.
My client wants me talking to the local protestors here.
While Nanaimo has wonderful people it has other names.
a.k.a. Tent City.
a.k.a. Fence City.
a.k.a. Hells Angels Canadian head office.
a.k.a. Head office Antifa Canada c/o b. ;-)
lol. Yeah, that's really truly wuly my name.
And I an antifascist in the err... European traditional sense.
What else will work against these genocial monsters but force?
Sincerly yours,
David G Horsman.
27th Temporary Acting President of ANTIFA Canada.
My friends.
We are on the eve of destruction.
https://youtu.be/h-V1t0PLQ2E?si=Ed77b436Zg8DJSrd
Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 2 2024 2:37 utc | 100
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