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February 28, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-065
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: tawharanui | Feb 28 2024 17:39 utc | 1 Norwegian Refugee Council director says ‘hundreds of trucks’ stuck outside of Gaza crossings Posted by: Minaa | Feb 28 2024 17:50 utc | 2 Back in January – some analysts estimated the IDF/Pentagon would run out of weapons in late March/early April – thoughts ? Posted by: Exile | Feb 28 2024 17:52 utc | 3 Israel is in a complete mess and there is no plan for the day after either. Posted by: AI | Feb 28 2024 17:57 utc | 4 Israel is in a complete mess and there is no plan for the day after either. Posted by: too scents | Feb 28 2024 18:14 utc | 5 Just listened to another live discussion with John Mearsheimer this time on The Electronic Intifada Posted by: David O’Donnell | Feb 28 2024 19:08 utc | 6 I remember in the immediate aftermath of Oct 7 it was announced Biden sent 8000 troops to Israel . Posted by: Delhiliterally | Feb 28 2024 19:20 utc | 7 Aaron Bushnell has supposedly said US troops are fighting Hamas in the tunnels of Gaza. Posted by: Chas | Feb 28 2024 19:32 utc | 8 Delhiliterally | Feb 28 2024 19:20 utc | 8
For the 2 pariah states, the end game has always been the destruction of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The following link describes Russian President Putin labelling the Ukrainian armed forces as a terrorist organisation for targeting ambulances and civilians. Posted by: eagle eye | Feb 28 2024 20:08 utc | 10 Al jazeera reports Azrael has been bombing targets in Damascus. The inanity of the war is clearer everyday, Biden sending more weapons while pretending he wants a humanitarian, temporary ceasefire, and his allies in the EU and the Gulf looking at him more and more as a nuisance. Not that they look at Trump differently, btw. Maybe VdL and Macron’s egos are going to realize their ally dont look too good in the picture. Posted by: Minaa | Feb 28 2024 20:23 utc | 11 The intermediate goal is the destruction of Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq. The longer range goal is Greater Israel to the Euphrates and building the new Temple. Posted by: JackG | Feb 28 2024 20:25 utc | 12 They want to draft the ultra orthodox and even that wont be enough. The Arabs are perfectly right to let them use whatever amunitions they get until they actually lack them. The EU wont help them. Electoral year in the US, UK, Iran, EU. Let them fight each others when they wont have targets left. Posted by: Minaa | Feb 28 2024 20:36 utc | 13 Let’s have some fun with them MSM tactics of trial balloons and Overton Windows again: the more buildings Israel destroys in Gaza, the more the world has no choice but to insist Israel humanely care for its occupied Palestinian people hosted in Tel Aviv & Haifa. 🙂 Ideally done so at Israel’s beachside resorts, with piña coladas. Posted by: titmouse | Feb 28 2024 20:37 utc | 14 Titre of a lebanese journal article Al-Akhbar Posted by: Animal | Feb 28 2024 20:38 utc | 15 Al jazeera reports Azrael has been bombing targets in Damascus. Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 28 2024 20:55 utc | 16 Titre of a lebanese journal article Al-Akhbar Posted by: Honzo | Feb 28 2024 20:58 utc | 17 Clearly the Zionist objective is to divert attention- of the notoriously fickle populace- from what they did in Gaza to a furore over ‘Islamic influence’ in Europe to underpin the re-foundation of fascism. Posted by: bevin | Feb 28 2024 21:04 utc | 18 Animal @ 16 Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 28 2024 21:07 utc | 19 Bevin @ 19 Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 28 2024 21:17 utc | 20 Mark2 | Feb 28 2024 21:17 utc | 21 Posted by: bevin | Feb 28 2024 21:22 utc | 21 Afif Aqrabawi Posted by: Menz | Feb 28 2024 21:34 utc | 22 Joshua Landis Posted by: Menz | Feb 28 2024 21:36 utc | 23 David O’Donnell | Feb 28 2024 19:08 utc | 7 Posted by: jef | Feb 28 2024 21:40 utc | 24 An assessment of the visual material presented by the Israeli legal team at the ICJ on 12 January 2024 Posted by: Menz | Feb 28 2024 21:42 utc | 25 Going Underground Posted by: Menz | Feb 28 2024 21:43 utc | 26 Bevin @ 22 Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 28 2024 21:53 utc | 27 Emerson/The Hill poll of Trump-Biden-RFK Jr-West-Stein matchup in swing states: Posted by: JAB | Feb 28 2024 22:01 utc | 28 Margaret Kimberley in Black Agenda Report on America’s martyr. Posted by: bevin | Feb 28 2024 22:08 utc | 29 bevin @30 Posted by: AJ | Feb 28 2024 22:29 utc | 30 Aaron Bushnell has supposedly said US troops are fighting Hamas in the tunnels of Gaza. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Feb 28 2024 22:30 utc | 31 FAIR dives into the media’s refusal to allow truth on Hannibal Doctrine. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 28 2024 22:36 utc | 32 Something about the Aaron Bushnell story is hard to turn away from. I think the last few days have been hard on folks who feel morally frustrated, while their government commits genocide and there’s nothing to do… except… Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 28 2024 22:40 utc | 33 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 28 2024 22:40 utc | 34 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 28 2024 22:46 utc | 34 https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1762580747171348549
Posted by: tawharanui | Feb 28 2024 23:33 utc | 35 The Gaza Health Ministry says six children are dead in north Gaza from dehydration and malnutrition at Kamal Adwan and al-Shifa hospitals, and others are in critical condition. Posted by: teri | Feb 28 2024 23:47 utc | 36 “By way of deception, thou shalt do war.” the Mossad Motto is the perfect description of how they do things. For most militaries and cultures, deception is a tool to be used. For the Israelis it is a way of life. Posted by: Jo P | Feb 28 2024 23:51 utc | 37 teri @37
More likely within days. Posted by: Jane | Feb 29 2024 0:10 utc | 38 The entire world has been in protest against the U.S. and Israeli war crimes being carried out in Gaza. As they did in Atlanta, the corporate media discredit any action that exposes the ongoing genocide.Even after the Republic of South Africa brought charges of genocide against Israel to the International Court of Justice (ICJ),the media still worked hard to hide and to obfuscate on behalf of the state.The ICJ declared the genocide charge “plausible” but the Posted by: Delhiliterally | Feb 29 2024 0:37 utc | 39 Menz 23 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 0:45 utc | 40 Michigan’s primary results are telling for how Palestine may affect Biden’s election campaign. It’s not just that “uncommitted” took 14% of the dem vote. It’s also that the GOP total turnout for a foregone conclusion was 25% higher than the dem turnout. Nikki Haley got 50% of Biden’s vote total, and she lost bigly. Trump exceeded Biden’s total by more than the uncommitted vote. It’s almost more important that dem numbers are so low. A lot of people the Dems count on to win the state didn’t even bother. Posted by: Lex | Feb 29 2024 0:56 utc | 41 Here is a potential bright side to recent events that will take time to realize Posted by: Earl Jones | Feb 29 2024 1:22 utc | 42 Lex 42 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 1:31 utc | 43 Giyane 44 Posted by: Earl Jones | Feb 29 2024 1:41 utc | 44 Knesset is mulling a law to jail Christians for one year, two years for a child for talking to a jew about religion. Posted by: Hankster | Feb 29 2024 1:41 utc | 45 44 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 1:47 utc | 46 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 0:45 utc | 41 Posted by: Siddhartha | Feb 29 2024 1:58 utc | 47 Earl Jones 45 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 2:06 utc | 48 “France’s Revolution in 1789 permanently destroyed France as a nation.” Pasted this in the Aaron thread not noticing this one had started. Reports indicate he had a Security clearance and that US personnel are fighting on ground in Gaza. The only video I watched on all this shows a US-looking military type holding open a wire fence and motorcycles going through, purportedly on Oct 7th, i.e. they were ushered in. But videos can be manipulated and staged in all sorts of ways which is why I hardly ever watch them. The previous post:
Siddhartha 48 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 2:31 utc | 51 What histories are you reading? Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 29 2024 2:48 utc | 53 Jacobians and their supreme evil should be studied by all Posted by: Exile | Feb 29 2024 2:55 utc | 54 If there’s going to be any intraparty pressure on Biden to bring Israel to heel, it’s now. I don’t think the pressure will change anything, but I also think that Biden has lost the election because of Gaza. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Feb 29 2024 3:31 utc | 56 Usa troops in Gaza was no secret. There was video of usa voices ordering civilians to leave the famous video of a group of usa soldiers cheering to being told its Gaza hunting season a few months back. Other various videos of foreign troops fighting within the IDf With their flag chevrons. UsA special forces was mentioned being there and later outed by a medal presentation meeting with the president with non blurred photos. That’s just off my head ,I’m sure there’s way more evidence Posted by: Hankster | Feb 29 2024 3:39 utc | 57 Quotes from Burning Mans recent reddit posts: Posted by: Jack A | Feb 29 2024 4:06 utc | 58 On a related note from The Register
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 29 2024 4:50 utc | 59 France under Napoleon took almost all of Europe over the next 20 years and were within a hair’s breadth of taking Russia. Posted by: Honzo | Feb 29 2024 4:53 utc | 60 Yemen – FGS Hessen F221 fired 2 AA missiles at MQ 9, apparently both “failed”. Hope same happens again when Yemen targets it. Posted by: Suresh | Feb 29 2024 5:35 utc | 61 Suresh, Posted by: Exile | Feb 29 2024 5:52 utc | 62
I did a quick search for ‘was Napoleon Illuminati?’ and got:
Veterans Today is usually pretty good, and not much into conspiracy stuff. Anyway, if you are right that this was liberal capitalist, then liberal capitalist is also a conspiracy-driven front (as was communism a century or so later perpetrated by the same networks though with a different generation of stooges and saps) to overthrow the old orders and replace them with the ‘atheistic, social republics’ which we now see all over the world today. They have succeeded, albeit it seems such secularism is increasingly past its due date. A 250 year subversive power grab violating basic laws of human nature and Primordial Nature running out of road…
Katie Halper is a Jew For #CeasefireNow Posted by: Menz | Feb 29 2024 7:57 utc | 64 God Loves it. But do not lose hope France, ALLAH is Forgiving and Merciful. Posted by: MAKK | Feb 29 2024 8:25 utc | 65 Honzo 61 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 9:32 utc | 66 This is a few days old. I can’t remember anyone posting this speech . It outlines how the very legal basis for the existence of Israel as a state doesn’t exist going over league of nations convention and onto further illegal actions by the British. 26 minutes at the IJC Posted by: Hankster | Feb 29 2024 10:01 utc | 67 67 Posted by: todd | Feb 29 2024 10:03 utc | 68 Israeli troops gun down thousands of Palestinians awaiting aid in north Gaza – The Cradle: Posted by: Vortex | Feb 29 2024 10:03 utc | 69 The reason that no Muslim country other than Lebanon and Yemen have engaged in jihad against Israel is that their religious leaderships are fully engaged with the West’s Evangelist/ZioNazist pathology. The religious elites only see and envy Western Power. All collaborate to obtain it. But in every Muslim country the ordinary people and their imams reject what politic Islam is doing. Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 10:33 utc | 70 How ‘sustainable’ is the destruction of Gaza and the dehumanization of anyone who dare showing empathy in the UK and Germany, for example? Posted by: Minaa | Feb 29 2024 10:42 utc | 71 Biden’s campaign raised $145.4 million from Californians in 2020. This January, he raised $42 million alone and has raised more money this early in a campaign than any candidate in history. France under Napoleon took almost all of Europe over the next 20 years and were within a hair’s breadth of taking Russia. canuck 74 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 29 2024 12:30 utc | 74 Don’t worry about Napoleon and old history ! Look at 7-800 wounded 300 serious and over 100 killed in a queue for food ? What military geniuses ! War criminals ! Does that shake the narrative ? Headless babies ? God made me do it ? Sell that history ! Sell that supporters of filth ! Posted by: Paleologos | Feb 29 2024 12:43 utc | 75 Paleologos @ 76 Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 29 2024 13:00 utc | 76 > the psycho trio Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 29 2024 13:03 utc | 77 My memory is that at the beginning of this rampage against the Palestinians, Putin gathered the three main religious leaders in his country to demonstrate how those faiths viewed one another in harmony there. He gave the example, which the western leaders supporting the Zionists have ignored to their ultimate destruction. Before all eyes the Zionists and their supporters continue to lay bare their atrocities, from which even now the youth of western countries cannot avoid the awareness that they themselves also are being stripped of their youthful hopes and dreams. Posted by: juliania | Feb 29 2024 15:11 utc | 78 “Israel is a Savage State.” Posted by: teri | Feb 29 2024 15:15 utc | 79 @ Vortex | Feb 29 2024 10:03 utc | 70 Posted by: teri | Feb 29 2024 15:38 utc | 80 If there are aspects of “Israeli” culture which explain jews violent hatred and racism toward Muslims, it’s their brief history and a complete absence of Cultural Traditions spanning thousands of years – unlike their post-18th Century neighbors in The Cradle Of Civilization. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 29 2024 16:49 utc | 81 “there are aspects of “Israeli” culture which explain jews violent hatred and racism toward Muslims” Posted by: Minaa | Feb 29 2024 17:04 utc | 82 Scorpion | Feb 29 2024 6:17 utc | 64 …. Posted by: Cynic | Feb 29 2024 18:09 utc | 83 Would all those who think that “Royalty” and its attendant pyramid of perpetual aristocracy is such a good thing that must not be overthrown, care to explain jut how the hell these self-appointed masters acquired their power, wealth and land in the first place? Posted by: Cynic | Feb 29 2024 18:23 utc | 84 sunof27 | Feb 29 2024 13:03 utc | 78 Posted by: Cynic | Feb 29 2024 18:37 utc | 85 Quote: Posted by: WMG | Feb 29 2024 19:01 utc | 86 Posted by: Lysias | Feb 29 2024 19:27 utc | 88 Posted by: Cynic | Feb 29 2024 19:50 utc | 88 Al-Qassem Daily SitRep Posted by: Exile | Feb 29 2024 20:29 utc | 89 iZrael is the envy of every Wastern Democracy,
— Yoav Limor for Israel Hayom, 12/04/2023
— Yoav Limor for Israel Hayom, 11/23/2023 Posted by: librul | Mar 1 2024 14:59 utc | 90 @Posted by: librul | Mar 1 2024 14:59 utc | 91 Posted by: librul | Mar 1 2024 15:05 utc | 91 Chris Hedges, on Aaron Bushnell’s “sublime madness”:
https://scheerpost.com/2024/03/01/chris-hedges-aaron-bushnells-divine-violence/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 1 2024 18:10 utc | 92 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 1 2024 18:10 utc | 93 Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Mar 1 2024 18:34 utc | 93 Self hating whites are now literally killing themselves. This is your brain on communist propaganda. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 1 2024 18:51 utc | 94 “The DoD has an imperative to responsibly pursue the adoption of generative AI models while identifying proper protective measures and mitigating national security risks that may result from issues such as poorly managed training data,” he said. “We must also consider the extent to which our adversaries will employ this technology and seek to disrupt our own use of AI-based solutions.” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 1 2024 19:05 utc | 95 The mass of humanity is quite sane but is ruled by the insane and that is what Bushnell wanted us all to know.’ Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 1 2024 19:14 utc | 96 https://www.answercoalition.org/rafah_protest Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Mar 1 2024 22:08 utc | 97 Live group discussion of palestine now. 14:57 PST Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 1 2024 22:57 utc | 98 An anthem for the resistance. Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 2 2024 1:58 utc | 99 https://www.answercoalition.org/rafah_protest Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 2 2024 2:37 utc | 100 |
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