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February 23, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-058
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/a8HEH-0raZU?feature=shared Posted by: Pq | Feb 23 2024 16:30 utc | 1 Pq@1….Words, Words, between the lines of time…..lots of verbiage Pq and I do get it, it helps ease a heavy heart, but Palestinians are still being slaughtered and starved. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 23 2024 17:13 utc | 2 Hello to Barflies who remember me. Posted by: Noirette | Feb 23 2024 17:25 utc | 3 ;)) Hot girls are waiting for you on —– https://shorturl.at/hlJXY Posted by: Amella | Feb 23 2024 17:36 utc | 4 Edward Said – BBC program ; Posted by: Exile | Feb 23 2024 17:36 utc | 5 https://www.americanpurpose.com/articles/the-stunning-effectiveness-of-houthi-harassment/ Posted by: JAB | Feb 23 2024 17:59 utc | 6 ….some parallels, ‘existence’ to Russia, except commerce between the warring parties continues, gives the SMO a slightly off smell. Naw, it stinks to high old heaven Posted by: Gene Poole | Feb 23 2024 18:03 utc | 7 In response to this end of a comment by bevin at end of last Palestine thread Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 23 2024 18:23 utc | 8 Recent Middle East Eye coverage – US and UK enter Wonderland: Posted by: jayc | Feb 23 2024 18:23 utc | 9 “The common strand in all of these ‘contrarian’ schools is a refusal to confront the fundamental reality that the world is governed by a capitalist class with imperial ambitions. Posted by: Minaa | Feb 23 2024 19:07 utc | 10 We are all like the people of Gaza. Or those governing Israel.” Posted by: Pq | Feb 23 2024 19:32 utc | 11 Posted by: JAB | Feb 23 2024 19:43 utc | 12 Isr does not listen to anyone.. clearly todays plan for the day after by N.is continuing the ethnocide….culture…eellbeing Posted by: Jo | Feb 23 2024 19:47 utc | 13 Premeditated Hannibal Directive and Premeditated Genocide of Palestinians – Zionist Divorcement from the Claim of “Israel’s right to exist”.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/resources/law_related_education_network/how_courts_work/evidence/ Posted by: librul | Feb 23 2024 19:51 utc | 14 fyi Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 23 2024 20:15 utc | 15 What Bush/Cheney & Friends did to Iraq was a war crime, but it wasn’t done in pursuit of a genocide. Millions of Americans who aren’t dead inside still remember the war crime though, and it took decades to get low information voters to be largely uncaring abut it. Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 23 2024 20:41 utc | 16 Posted by: librul | Feb 23 2024 19:51 utc | 13 Posted by: Michael A | Feb 23 2024 21:15 utc | 17 Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 23 2024 20:15 utc | 14 Posted by: pq | Feb 23 2024 21:31 utc | 18 Biden is looking for loopholes to justify his new war on Yemen. Posted by: teri | Feb 23 2024 21:43 utc | 19 Ha! Posted by: pq | Feb 23 2024 21:53 utc | 20 Posted by: teri | Feb 23 2024 21:43 utc | 18 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 23 2024 22:06 utc | 21 Breaking news. Russia has deployed troops to the Syrian border with Israel and established and observation post. Discussions between Israel and Russia are occurring behind the scenes. Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 23 2024 22:13 utc | 22 Thanks. Did you mean “chum” in the water? Posted by: teri | Feb 23 2024 22:15 utc | 23 RE: Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 23 2024 22:13 utc | 21 Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 23 2024 22:22 utc | 24 From 2 weeks ago: Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 23 2024 22:29 utc | 25 I keep reading and hearing about Pelosi drinking. I wonder if that’s really dementia. Posted by: Lysias | Feb 23 2024 22:38 utc | 26 fyi Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 23 2024 23:08 utc | 27 @pq #17 Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 23 2024 23:09 utc | 28 Tiberius Posted by: Menz | Feb 23 2024 23:16 utc | 29 Israelis = Sickos Posted by: Menz | Feb 23 2024 23:17 utc | 30 The UN, rather than Netanyahu, should be deciding what happens to Gaza after the conflict ends. How arrogant is the man, that he thinks he owns Palestine, so he has the right to decide how it is run and by whom? Posted by: D J G | Feb 23 2024 23:28 utc | 31 Benny Johnson Posted by: Menz | Feb 23 2024 23:30 utc | 32 Quds News Network Posted by: Menz | Feb 23 2024 23:42 utc | 33 Khalissee Posted by: Menz | Feb 23 2024 23:47 utc | 34 Did you mean “chum” in the water? Peloser really said that ZERO American weapons are or were used? That’s so blatantly false and falsifiable I wonder how bad her dementia has gotten. There are pictures of US bomb and missile parts from all over Gaza! She’s always been a lying self-serving wench, but this is a new low. Posted by: Dogtired | Feb 24 2024 0:31 utc | 35 Posted by: teri | Feb 23 2024 21:43 utc | 18 Posted by: Jane | Feb 24 2024 0:50 utc | 36 For those struggling with the words to face what is happening right now authentically, you could do worse than to read Patrick Lawrence’s new article over at Unz, “Guilt and responsibilty.”
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Truer words. Hegel would be proud. Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 24 2024 1:17 utc | 37 first, thanks to Menz for many of these updates he brings us Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 24 2024 1:31 utc | 38 SUMMARY of all resistance operations today, February 23 (2024), against (US)-israeli forces Posted by: tawharanui | Feb 24 2024 1:36 utc | 39 Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 23 2024 20:41 utc | 15 Posted by: RLTW | Feb 24 2024 1:40 utc | 40 The UN, rather than Netanyahu, should be deciding what happens to Gaza after the conflict ends. Posted by: HH | Feb 24 2024 2:00 utc | 41 https://news.usni.org/2018/01/03/houthi-rebels-find-likely-u-s-navy-unmanned-underwater-vehicle Posted by: Hankster | Feb 24 2024 2:23 utc | 42 Posted by: Hankster | Feb 24 2024 2:23 utc | 41 Posted by: Menz | Feb 24 2024 2:50 utc | 43 The article you linked to is dated January 2018, is that right? Posted by: UWDude | Feb 24 2024 3:27 utc | 44 RE: I keep reading and hearing about Pelosi drinking. I wonder if that’s really dementia. Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 24 2024 4:30 utc | 45 42 menz now I’m confused , yes one caught 2018, I double check videos from the multiple postings from 3 days ago. Many are just same video from the 2018. Posted by: Hankster | Feb 24 2024 4:48 utc | 46 1. Demographics Posted by: ChrisB | Feb 24 2024 5:14 utc | 47 Biden is looking for loopholes to justify his new war on Yemen. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 24 2024 5:17 utc | 48 Below are links showing the manipulation of Egypt in our civilization war
The 2nd is from Xinhuanet with the title of
Egypt is being set up to take in the Palestinians forced out of Gaza and it is a coordinated effort. Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 24 2024 5:29 utc | 49 Reading Aime Cesaire for the first time. Posted by: JAB | Feb 24 2024 5:35 utc | 50 What am I driving at? At this idea: that no one colonizes innocently, that no one colonizes with impunity either; that a nation which colonizes, that a civlization which justifies colonization–and therefore force–is already a sick civilization, a civilization which is morally diseased, which irresistibly, progressing from one consequence to another, one denial to another, calls for its Hitler, I mean its punishment. Posted by: JAB | Feb 24 2024 5:38 utc | 51 Based on tawharanui SitRep : Posted by: Exile | Feb 24 2024 5:44 utc | 52 Gaza: Posted by: Exile | Feb 24 2024 5:49 utc | 53 A significant thing: it is not the head of a civilization that begins to rot first. It is the heart. Posted by: JAB | Feb 24 2024 5:52 utc | 54 Houthis, one of the poorest countries on earth, just blew up a 35 million US drone. War is changing. Posted by: JAB | Feb 24 2024 5:54 utc | 55 RE: “Egypt is being set up to take in the Palestinians forced out of Gaza and it is a coordinated effort.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 24 2024 6:34 utc | 56 @ Trubind1 | Feb 24 2024 6:34 utc | 55 with the follow up to my Egypt comment..thanks Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 24 2024 6:47 utc | 57 RE: Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 24 2024 6:47 utc | 56 Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 24 2024 7:08 utc | 58 @ Trubind1 | Feb 24 2024 7:08 utc | 57 with the follow up…thanks but GAK! Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 24 2024 7:38 utc | 59 Can Egypt be bribed to collude in cleansing? Can Egypt be tipped, like a drowsy cow?
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 24 2024 7:47 utc | 60 RE: “Gaza holding area seems like a ploy to keep all the resistance age males of the area busy with lucrative construction projects.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 24 2024 7:55 utc | 61 I can also agree with bevin’s excellent point about an oligarchic capitalist class aspiring to global imperial ambitions being the predominant malefactor for these troubles. 🙂 Yes, it is very much akin to psychohistorian’s God of Mammon Cult causing a crisis of civilizations as it seeks a means to power through private finance. I can very much see common threads of class (or cabal) assault over time through our recent world history. Posted by: titmouse | Feb 24 2024 7:56 utc | 62 Ref Egypt Posted by: Minaa | Feb 24 2024 8:12 utc | 63 If Egypt takes on the Gazans, and they fire rockets into old gaza, where the Jews now have set up their cute little kibbutzes, and demand right of return, or stage a new raid on the innocent israeli settlers now living on the land they just stole… Posted by: UWDude | Feb 24 2024 9:18 utc | 64 Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 23 2024 23:09 utc | 27 Posted by: pq | Feb 24 2024 9:43 utc | 65 The UN, rather than Netanyahu, should be deciding what happens to Gaza after the conflict ends. Posted by: pq | Feb 24 2024 10:00 utc | 66 The very fact that a governmental newspaper such as al-Ahram reports on the ICJ hearings, and not your (Western) government, is a proof of who is more corrupt. Having said that, Egypt has dozens of thousands of Muslim brotherhood partisans (in talk much more than in deed) in jail because they do not find a solution to preserve the stability of the country and keep tourism flow (much reduced compared to pre-Arab Spring, plus the world economic crisis, accelerated by the covid-weapon to multiply failed states). Posted by: Minaa | Feb 24 2024 10:07 utc | 67 Posted by: Minaa | Feb 24 2024 10:08 utc | 68 Pq @ 64 Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 24 2024 10:14 utc | 69 Posted by: pq | Feb 24 2024 10:00 utc | 65 Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 24 2024 11:07 utc | 70 pq “Post Cold War, Russia became a staunch Israel ally as 1 million + East Europeans went to Israel.” Posted by: Minaa | Feb 24 2024 11:55 utc | 71 pq “All this week all European countries including Ireland and Russia are telling the ICJ to ignore international law and use “political processes”, aka repeat of Oslo and Quartet.” Posted by: Minaa | Feb 24 2024 12:00 utc | 72 Posted by: librul | Feb 23 2024 19:51 utc | 13 “ps: Canada had the good sense to back out. I don’t know why they didn’t show up to parrot the European statements, but well done for not showing up.” They also want to show that they are not anti-Israelis per principle and do wish for a peaceful outcome (versus “the Arabs and the Muslims hate us”). Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 24 2024 12:25 utc | 75 Americans and the english ‘know the cost of every thing and the value of nothing’ Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 24 2024 12:48 utc | 76 sunof27 Posted by: Minaa | Feb 24 2024 13:03 utc | 77 Posted by: Minaa | Feb 24 2024 13:03 utc | 76 Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 24 2024 13:21 utc | 78 Yes and precisely we live in a system where Truth is upheld by Justice, against the short-term agendas of the executive. Not that it works too well, but it is worth trying, especially when for the first time since the decolonization epoch, dozens of formerly colonized countries are able to speak together in defence of Palestine. Posted by: Minaa | Feb 24 2024 13:29 utc | 79 I see the same things. GenZ ain’t buying the “support Israel unconditionally” bullshit. They have access to alternative media. They see the IFF Red Crescent medics given the go-ahead by IDF to safely come forward and save a 4 year old girl. Then IDF executes the medics and the little girl. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 24 2024 14:05 utc | 80 Al Qassem Daily SitRep Posted by: Exile | Feb 24 2024 14:24 utc | 81 I’m frequently puzzled by arguments around the proportionality of ‘israel’s’ violence against the Palestinians. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 24 2024 14:26 utc | 82 Iran’s Supreme Leader Seyyed Ali Hosseini Khamenei has condemned western countries for turning “a blind eye to the killing of 30,000 innocent people in Gaza”, the local Mehr News Agency reports. Posted by: teri | Feb 24 2024 14:39 utc | 83 Okay, so now let’s hear from Germany. They have decided the whole Nakba thing is a myth promulgated by the nefarious Palestinians to garner sympathy from a gullible world. It actually Never Happened. The high schools in one district in Berlin will be distributing leaflets to the students explaining this new and improved history of Israel and Palestine. This is to be in accordance with Germany’s recently expanded definition of anti-Semitism. I think I recall that Germany provided much ‘literature’ regarding the ‘truth’ about Jews back in the day…. Posted by: teri | Feb 24 2024 15:18 utc | 84 RE: “To me this is just another bug in the rotten software called Western Justice and Law.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 24 2024 15:28 utc | 85 Teri, Posted by: Exile | Feb 24 2024 16:16 utc | 87 RE: Posted by: teri | Feb 24 2024 14:39 utc | 82 Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 24 2024 16:26 utc | 88 Posted by: Trubind1/archbungle | Feb 24 2024 15:28 utc | 84 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Feb 24 2024 16:54 utc | 89 I would imagine Iran has expert hackers, i would love them or any one else to hack into prime time tv in both US and UK showing film of the true horror of what is being done in Gaza. Maybe for 4 hours or more. Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 24 2024 16:55 utc | 90 Richard Falk’s opinion:
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 24 2024 16:56 utc | 91 Must read resume about zionist occupation of Москва. No nation state can survive jewish supremacism. On Telegram GRN channel.
Posted by: Товарищи | Feb 24 2024 17:17 utc | 92 Babel-17 | Feb 23 2024 20:41 utc | 16 Posted by: Cynic | Feb 24 2024 17:59 utc | 93 While I laud Ralphi boy (Nader that is) asking these questions — of course without answers — he is clueless and doesn’t understand that this is NOT an Israel-Hamas war, but an empire-palestinian war. Here is question no. 3.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 24 2024 18:03 utc | 94 Did Israel respond to the South Africa ICJ case as the court ordered? I believe a month has passed as of yesterday. Posted by: Nodag | Feb 24 2024 18:24 utc | 95 ICJ genocide lawsuit ? Posted by: Exile | Feb 24 2024 19:01 utc | 96 Arch Bungle | Feb 24 2024 14:05 utc | 80 Posted by: Cynic | Feb 24 2024 19:03 utc | 97 To clarify: Posted by: Exile | Feb 24 2024 19:19 utc | 98 “problem is in the BIOS of western powers” Posted by: Minaa | Feb 24 2024 19:28 utc | 99 “ICJ genocide lawsuit ? Posted by: Minaa | Feb 24 2024 19:33 utc | 100 |
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