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February 9, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-043
Only for news & views directly related to the war in Palestine. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Machine translation from Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung: Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 12:24 utc | 1 “The president of the UdK, who declared solidarity with Israel, was shouted down.” Posted by: Squeeth | Feb 9 2024 12:39 utc | 2 Useful idiots. How many of them came with the migrant wave at a time both the EU and Isr were supporting the djihadists in Syria to fight the dangerously socialist Bashar? Posted by: Minaa | Feb 9 2024 12:59 utc | 3 The slur of “antisemitism” has been used to enable genocide, by attempting to intimidate and silence. Posted by: librul | Feb 9 2024 13:05 utc | 4 Posted by: Minaa | Feb 9 2024 12:59 utc | 3 Posted by: joey | Feb 9 2024 13:17 utc | 5 Anyone who hasn’t been accused of being an antisemite by a Zionist should be ashamed of themselves. Posted by: David J Valachovic | Feb 9 2024 13:21 utc | 6 Anyone who hasn’t been accused of being an antisemite by a Zionist should be ashamed of themselves. Posted by: Animal | Feb 9 2024 13:41 utc | 7 Racket Posted by: librul | Feb 9 2024 13:51 utc | 8 Anyone who hasn’t been accused of being an antisemite by a Zionist should be ashamed of themselves. Posted by: malenkov | Feb 9 2024 13:59 utc | 9 Used to be that an antisemite was someone who hates Jews. Now an antisemite is someone whom Jews hate. Posted by: librul | Feb 9 2024 14:21 utc | 10 Anti-Semitic violence at Berlin universities is increasing at an alarming rate. After a lecture hall was occupied by pro-Palestinian students last week, a Jewish student at the FU was beaten to the point of hospitalization by a pro-Palestinian student in Berlin-Mitte. Posted by: laguerre | Feb 9 2024 14:22 utc | 11 Palestinian Ambassador to Ireland impassioned speech to packed solidarity meeting in Belfast. Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 9 2024 15:10 utc | 12 The Zionist regime wants to expand its genocide to Lebanon. However, they will face a strong resistance with dire consequences. Posted by: AI | Feb 9 2024 15:18 utc | 13
Posted by: librul | Feb 9 2024 13:05 utc | 4 Posted by: grunzt | Feb 9 2024 15:28 utc | 14 “The Nazis made me afraid to be a Jew. The Israelis make me ashamed to be a Jew.” Dr. Israel Shahak, A holocaust survivor. Posted by: David | Feb 9 2024 15:49 utc | 15 Don Firineach@12…. powerful words. The oppressed, standing shoulder to shoulder with the oppressed….thanks for the link. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 9 2024 16:35 utc | 16 Anti-Semitic violence at Berlin universities is increasing at an alarming rate. After a lecture hall was occupied by pro-Palestinian students last week, a Jewish student at the FU was beaten to the point of hospitalization by a pro-Palestinian student in Berlin-Mitte. Posted by: Michael A | Feb 9 2024 17:17 utc | 17 Leonard Cohen Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 9 2024 17:32 utc | 18 David | Feb 9 2024 15:49 utc | 15 Posted by: Michael Weddington | Feb 9 2024 18:02 utc | 19 The most important, and very urgent, matter at this moment is the intention of the the Israeli PM to – push the Palestinians concentrated in Rafah out of Gaza, in order to “exterminate” Hamas. Posted by: JB | Feb 9 2024 18:09 utc | 20 The ethnic cleansing by the psychopathic, genocidal thieves continues. Posted by: librul | Feb 9 2024 18:16 utc | 21 The Cradle has a posting up with the title Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 9 2024 18:25 utc | 22 Michael, (9) Posted by: David | Feb 9 2024 18:32 utc | 23 Do you have any authentication for this quote. I wanted to use it, but I can’t find a source. Posted by: MAKK | Feb 9 2024 18:33 utc | 24 They could hardly have expressed their own rejection of complexity more clearly. They may have never developed the desire to work through complexity; it was sacrificed for the quick effect of a “promotion” that would appeal to the public. Posted by: Lukacs | Feb 9 2024 18:44 utc | 25 However, they will face a strong resistance with dire consequences. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 9 2024 18:55 utc | 26 I never imagined writing these words in my lifetime: Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Feb 9 2024 19:24 utc | 27 ONE WONDERS WHY ANYONE WOULDN’T HATE ISRAEL AND IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO REALLY DOESN’T Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 19:30 utc | 28 “In Interview With Afghan Taliban’s State-Owned Pashtu-Language ‘Hewad Daily,’ Hamas Spokesman Husam Badran Says Taliban’s Defeat Of U.S. Inspired Hamas: ‘This Experience [Of Afghanistan] And Other Nations Such As Iraq And Algeria Taught Us To Choose The Path Of Jihad And Not To Be Disappointed On This Path'” Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 19:36 utc | 29 Christendom, alas, will soon be joining Zionism in the grave they are building from the ruins and rubble of Gaza’. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 9 2024 19:36 utc | 30 Not strictly on topic but this tee appeaed jn an earlier “Palestine” thread and theee is nothing kike beaging a dead horse. This shows how the Norman influence is still continuing to wreck the world not only theough the Irish-American presidents like Biden but also through Irish businessmen. This is a story from today’s New York Times: Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 19:44 utc | 31 Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 19:36 utc | 29 Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 9 2024 19:46 utc | 32 For an example of who calls the shots, just look at Biden who appears paralized, bowing to Netanyahu’s every wish, and helping him actively in committing genocide on the Gazan population, allthough it hurts both his reputation and that of the US. Posted by: Paul from Norway | Feb 9 2024 19:51 utc | 33 Posted by: Paul from Norway | Feb 9 2024 19:51 utc | 33 Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 19:54 utc | 34 “I strongly believe that antisemitism and Jewish chauvinism can only be fought simultaneously.” Posted by: Michael Weddington | Feb 9 2024 19:56 utc | 35 So here we all stand, breathless, waiting for the next massacre looming over Rafah … Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 9 2024 20:02 utc | 36 re: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 19:44 utc | 31 and other posts Posted by: Ново З | Feb 9 2024 20:03 utc | 37 Posted by: Ново З | Feb 9 2024 20:03 utc | 37 Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 20:13 utc | 38 Maybe I should be more specific. You also need a thing called an Internet connection and then you can use a thing called browser. Remember: Internet. It is going to be big. Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 20:18 utc | 39 Excuse my ignorance. What is a djihadist ? Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 9 2024 20:20 utc | 40 Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 9 2024 20:20 utc | 40 Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 20:24 utc | 41 re: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 20:13 utc | 38 etc Posted by: Ново З | Feb 9 2024 20:40 utc | 42 “Maybe I should be more specific. You also need a thing called an Internet connection and then you can use a thing called browser. Remember: Internet. It is going to be big.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 9 2024 20:55 utc | 44 LISTEN TO YOURSELF MR HORSEMAN. GO AHEAD AND FROWN. Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 21:08 utc | 45 Does the W stand for wanker? Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 9 2024 21:19 utc | 46 Prime Minister of Israel openly states ethnic cleansing of refugees pushed into the previously stated safe zone of Raffa. Posted by: Hankster | Feb 9 2024 21:29 utc | 47 Haaretz reports that “Moody’s Downgrades Israel’s Credit Rating for First Time in Country’s History, Outlook Lowered to ‘Negative'”:
It caught them by surprise because maybe they thought Moody’s could never be “anti-Semitic” as well…
Israel is gradually following the same path Ukraine does. Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Feb 9 2024 22:02 utc | 48 #30 Christianity was stillborn on the cross of Golgotha … Agree, the real Jesus, Yes – I was talking about Christendom and the Christ of fiction … more and more and not fooled even by him any more. Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Feb 9 2024 22:37 utc | 49 … a Jewish student at the FU was beaten to the point of hospitalization by a pro-Palestinian student in Berlin-Mitte. Posted by: Angel in Berlin | Feb 9 2024 22:50 utc | 50 Gaza is worse than the Warsaw Ghetto. Posted by: todd | Feb 9 2024 22:52 utc | 51 Going Underground Posted by: Menz | Feb 9 2024 23:18 utc | 52 Moroccan drug dealers boycott selling to Israeli criminals over Gaza war Posted by: Menz | Feb 9 2024 23:27 utc | 53 Philippe Lazzarini Posted by: Menz | Feb 9 2024 23:30 utc | 54 Arya – آریا 🇮🇷 Posted by: Menz | Feb 9 2024 23:34 utc | 55 Confirming what we already know, the Israeli economy is F***ed. Posted by: Menz | Feb 9 2024 23:37 utc | 56 Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis Posted by: Menz | Feb 9 2024 23:51 utc | 57 last post: Posted by: Menz | Feb 10 2024 0:00 utc | 58 Below is the title of a ZH posting about the ongoing efforts of Yemen
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 10 2024 0:11 utc | 59 Aaron Mate confronts Chris Coons: https://t.me/myLordBebo/22396 Posted by: liveload | Feb 10 2024 0:27 utc | 60 @ Fake Arch Bungle | Feb 10 2024 0:58 utc | 61 Posted by: malenkov | Feb 10 2024 1:01 utc | 61 malenkov | Feb 10 2024 1:01 utc | 62 Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 10 2024 2:16 utc | 62 Posted by: malenkov | Feb 10 2024 1:01 utc | 62 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 10 2024 3:21 utc | 63 Posted by: Menz | Feb 9 2024 23:27 utc | 53 Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 10 2024 3:59 utc | 64 Part 3 of my blogposts on the Gaza war. I am from India and focus only on the military aspects of the conflict without taking sides. I post original data based analysis in my free blog. Posted by: Rahul Deans | Feb 10 2024 4:34 utc | 65 Surprised to find this article at Reuters
West Bank Hospital Posted by: librul | Feb 10 2024 5:22 utc | 66 I think barflies will find this translated article interesting. The original was published in the Lebanese Al-Akhbar in Arabic. Posted by: SlowDL | Feb 10 2024 5:51 utc | 67 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 10 2024 3:21 utc | 64 Posted by: ryanggg | Feb 10 2024 5:51 utc | 68 “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel has ordered the Israeli military to come up with a plan for civilians sheltering in the southern city of Rafah to evacuate, his office said on Friday, as Israeli leaders have increasingly indicated they intend to ultimately send ground troops into the crowded city. Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 10 2024 6:14 utc | 69 Posted by: Rahul Deans | Feb 10 2024 4:34 utc | 66 Posted by: Laguerre | Feb 10 2024 6:46 utc | 70 Some reports estimate that the cannabis industry contributes anywhere from 10% to 30% of Morocco’s GDP. Any Norman influence there? Remember Hunter’s issues. Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 10 2024 6:48 utc | 71 One can hear the death knell of the Abraham Accord between Morocco and Israel. Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 10 2024 6:51 utc | 72 Below is a link to a young woman creating murals on the rubble in Gaza Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 10 2024 6:54 utc | 73 What happens between India and Israel is somehow reminiscent of the support that the US lends to democracy in its neighbour Pakistan as evidenced by the presidential election there. Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 10 2024 7:05 utc | 74 “Joe Biden has suffered “the worst day of his presidency”, an ally said, after a bombshell report found the US President had “significant limitations in his memory”. Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 10 2024 7:21 utc | 76 Source: Britain. Posted by: laguerre | Feb 10 2024 7:45 utc | 77 time for all ppl with channels and media outlets to give a voice to norway, spain, ireland and south africa Posted by: Minaa | Feb 10 2024 8:05 utc | 78 @ ryanggg | Feb 10 2024 5:51 utc | 69 Posted by: tawharanui | Feb 10 2024 8:07 utc | 79 Israel appears to be in breach of ICJ orders on Gaza, senior UN official says Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 10 2024 11:04 utc | 80 ……. The ‘victim’ is a Zionist who has been aggressive towards other students, including anti-Zionist Jewish ones. He’s a racist psychopath who probably went around trying to incite violence. Posted by: Exile | Feb 10 2024 12:13 utc | 81 Minaa | Feb 10 2024 8:05 utc | 79 “Christendom dead” Posted by: MAKK | Feb 10 2024 12:27 utc | 83 India, known to be close friends with Israel, in spite of mild objections over what is being done to the Gazans, is in fact acting in high-level cooperation. Israel is getting more and more like Germany in the second world war, needing to fill its factories with foreign impressed slave labour. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 10 2024 12:49 utc | 84
Alright … I get it … they lack an appreciation of the complexities inherent in the current situation. Cool. Is this complex enough? Or is it also lacking in “complexity”?
Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Feb 10 2024 12:50 utc | 85 Dying for iZrael. Posted by: librul | Feb 10 2024 12:52 utc | 86 Re: Telegram links. When someone links to a Telegram post, more often than not I cannot view the picture or the video. Sometimes a video will show a still, blurry picture, but will not play. Usually I can’t see the video OR any still picture. Posted by: teri | Feb 10 2024 13:27 utc | 87 @ teri | Feb 10 2024 13:27 utc | 88 Posted by: tawharanui | Feb 10 2024 13:37 utc | 88 Telegram works on pc Mac. Search for the official website. Not the play or Apple etc stores as they censor their versions of content. Just need to link with a phone number that sends a verification code. Some people don’t like that Posted by: Hankster | Feb 10 2024 14:40 utc | 89 Hankster | Feb 10 2024 14:40 utc | 90 Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 10 2024 14:48 utc | 90 Artists for Ceasefire Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 10 2024 15:30 utc | 91 You know that the Ghaza inhabitants have been kettled, hearded into Rapha, just across the Egyptian border, now they will bomb them like that, helpless. Posted by: stranger | Feb 10 2024 15:37 utc | 92 “The New composition of the ICJ court, with a Pro-palestinian as head and that Ugandan woman (the only one who voted against both texts – in favour of Israel) as second, seems designed to be “fair” and avoid accusations of bias.” Posted by: Minaa | Feb 10 2024 15:58 utc | 93 “Christendom was dead with the invention of “Just War”. Posted by: Minaa | Feb 10 2024 16:00 utc | 94 Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 10 2024 6:48 utc | 72 Posted by: sln2002 | Feb 10 2024 16:07 utc | 95 @ tawharanui, Hankster, dan of Steele; Posted by: teri | Feb 10 2024 16:17 utc | 96 Hind, the 6 year old girl who phoned the red cross, found dead. Posted by: Animal | Feb 10 2024 16:19 utc | 97 “Just war was invented by St Augustine in his Against the Pelagians (and is everywhere in the Old Testament). I wonder how a publication such as The Postil can claim Augustine’s legacy, frankly.” The argument is that Origen would have approved of a Rafah bombing or are we back to the group therapy? I Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 10 2024 16:30 utc | 99 It would make more sense to argue that Egypt does not open the border because Origen was from Alexandria and he read the Old Testament. Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 10 2024 16:33 utc | 100 |
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