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February 22, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-055
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Luke 19; 41 -45 Hurry up guys! Posted by: Hot Carl | Feb 22 2024 14:14 utc | 2 Luke 19; 41 -45 The Walmart chatGPT version in iambic pentameter: not leave one stone atop another Posted by: too scents | Feb 22 2024 14:28 utc | 4 The United States of Crooks and Liars & their Assange SNAFU. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 22 2024 14:48 utc | 5 @ Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 22 2024 14:48 utc | 5 Posted by: malenkov | Feb 22 2024 15:21 utc | 6 With regards to JA Craig Murray has the newest. JA was too I’ll to be at trial today. Posted by: PleaseBeleafMe | Feb 22 2024 16:27 utc | 7 And now, for a quick look-sie at the Daily (Black?) Mail. So in Canada, the largest ever seizure of illegal guns was made, a joint operation of the Ontario Provincial Police and U.S. Homeland Security. Before I could stop myself, I’m combing through the Top Stories at the Daily Mail when I arrive at this one. Gun-related? Yes. Near the border with Canada? Yes. But I think it’s might be about the Munich Security Conference. Who’s online appeal did “the Mail” possibly intercept, I wonder. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 22 2024 16:30 utc | 8 https://sputnikglobe.com/20240221/germany-is-doomed-mep-paints-unflattering-picture-of-berlins-economic-prospects-1116909191.html Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 22 2024 16:31 utc | 9 Putin flew in a new TU-160M today. After Flight Presser. He flew in one of the planes he saw during his tour of the Kazan Aviation Station yesterday. IMO, the short one-minute video is worth watching with its contents synopsized in the PR: I missed the new OT and left a long (and somewhat personal) comment at the tail end of the last OT. It’s about aircraft, bicycles, the nature and the powers of intuitive reasoning, everyone’s very own shining path, and the Golden Pudel Club. I forgot to hint UWDude at some woods he is missing, to be found in formulating and modeling time-dependent differential equations. Posted by: persiflo | Feb 22 2024 17:27 utc | 11 @ UWDude | Feb 22 2024 10:46 utc | 445 from the old Open Thread with their mechanistic view of our world. Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 22 2024 17:34 utc | 12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBP2uRQk5pQ
All this climate doomer stuff is a HUGE distraction put out by the same international leadership class ghouls who are ruining our world in so many ways. When people DON’T follow the same Science (and scientism) of these capitalist, communist, socialist and fascist ghouls (all distinctions without substantive difference), solutions can be found. And are surprisingly easy. @persiflo Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 22 2024 18:08 utc | 14 “It will take some time for the new economic realities to settle in. They will likely change the current view of Europe’s real strategic interests.” Posted by: Thomas | Feb 22 2024 18:09 utc | 15 @persiflo [know you will enjoy this] Posted by: sunof27 | Feb 22 2024 18:27 utc | 16 @scorpion Posted by: Brautigan | Feb 22 2024 18:28 utc | 17 Luke 45 saying “Lo that you persecute your neighbours for Vengeance is mine, I will repay attacks on the children of Gaza and dash the Zionists pigs to bits of lifeless ash. Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 22 2024 18:48 utc | 18 We are experiencing the final stages of a massive bubble, a la 2000 dot come and 2008 GFC. This could crash tomorrow or just keep going up for another 6 months before crashing. Northman Trader over on X put it succinctly,
Due to the market rally, the major increases in US government spending etc., financial conditions are as loose now as they were in January 2022; i.e. no real financial conditions tightening, it has all been undone. The Fed and US government (in effect the same thing) have decided that they need to keep the economy ramped through 2024 and will turn a blind eye to increasingly large US government deficits and signs of reemerging inflationary drivers, kick the commercial real estate/car loan/credit card crisis down the road into 2025, and not give a shit about an obvious stock market bubble. All they care about is getting the Dems re-elected, then they will worry about the problems in 2025. @Brautigan | Feb 22 2024 18:28 utc | 17 Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 22 2024 18:58 utc | 20 Roger, Posted by: Exile | Feb 22 2024 19:02 utc | 21 Posted by: Thomas | Feb 22 2024 18:09 utc | 15
Good article in the Cradle; thanks. That the bifurcation into two blocks is deliberate policy by the West is fairly clear and the author effectively debunks the widespread belief that it’s the result of stupid Western elites. However, the Covid response being so draconian and uniform internationally leads me to suspect that as well as bifurcation on Level 2 there may well be totalitarian-ish unification on a Level 1, perhaps with CBDCs. @Brautigan Posted by: Albert65de | Feb 22 2024 19:05 utc | 23 ” I forgot to hint UWDude at some woods he is missing, to be found in formulating and modeling time-dependent differential equations.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 22 2024 19:13 utc | 24 Hoarsewhisperer@5….The Trust Fall is currently airing in Australian theatres, might explain the flak. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 22 2024 19:18 utc | 25 @ Roger | Feb 22 2024 18:57 utc | 19 Posted by: james | Feb 22 2024 19:30 utc | 26 https://openai.com/sora Posted by: SlowSoft | Feb 22 2024 19:40 utc | 27 “Although I hope he is right that the ‘worst is over’ viz. military kinetics, I fear the West is entering a truly dark period akin to the French, Russian and Chinese revolutions involving the violent deaths of tens, if not hundreds of millions.” Posted by: Thomas | Feb 22 2024 19:58 utc | 28 Posted by: Fadi | Feb 22 2024 15:18 utc | 471 Posted by: Honzo | Feb 22 2024 20:10 utc | 29 Posted by: Roger | Feb 22 2024 18:57 utc | 19 Posted by: Echo Chamber | Feb 22 2024 20:17 utc | 30 Posted by: Roger | Feb 22 2024 18:57 utc | 19 Posted by: Echo Chamber | Feb 22 2024 20:20 utc | 31 Posted by: Brautigan | Feb 22 2024 18:28 utc | 17 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Feb 22 2024 20:30 utc | 32
I remember after the 2020 US election along with international covid response feeling that quite possibly this was the last time the post-constitutional pseudo-republic would hold an ostensibly ‘free and fair election’. A huge crash this summer along with riots and race wars with millions of unemployed third world illegals, energy crunch, another disease etc. could be just the ticket to usher in a new type of one party system given how obviously more effective such a thing is in China, for example. I sure hope this doesn’t happen, but I think the election is setting up to break the country apart one way or another. The Center no longer holds so fracturing is the inevitable way forward from which most likely something authoritarian will emerge, much to the relief of a deeply traumatized population.
Jolly Good Show, Old Chap! The next one’s on me! $ 7 trillion is being spent on build back better. Posted by: Echo Chamber | Feb 22 2024 20:58 utc | 35 @24 Posted by: Soviético | Feb 22 2024 21:10 utc | 36 David Horsman re-posted a statement from UWDude above to me, therein the UWDude explains about his job in game dev. Yes, I had seen this comment before, and it was precisely this statements of his which provoked my sparse response, which I gave mostly because I am one of the barflies in the humungous WiR OT who took the climate discussion into a field where I actually began to micro-lecture the esteemed audience of the bar on dynamical systems theory. The same still applies now. I admit that for some reasons I feel a desire to uphold my credentials on this topic, into which I had not ventured before during my time on the Moon of Alabama as a semi-regular poster. Let me say that I believe the bar might be better of tonight if we do not fully engage on the topic; as surely some can see, there is already some talking past going on. On the other hand, the debate is alive, and the technical aspects of climate (and other) modelling are very helpful when trying to understand Zeitgeist questions such as climater and AI. I will leave it to barflies to see if there is a compounding desire to continue our explorations of computational tools and their application to problems of the Lebenswelt. I shall provide my own knowledge of these things (gained from seven years at university, but not from actual jobs in the fields). Posted by: persiflo | Feb 22 2024 21:17 utc | 37 Is it any surprise that the national debt moved higher ? Posted by: Echo Chamber | Feb 22 2024 21:18 utc | 38 Tax cuts for the rich, tax cuts for the rich, tax cuts for the rich. Posted by: Echo Chamber | Feb 22 2024 21:39 utc | 39 Echo Chamber | Feb 22 2024 20:20 utc | 31 Posted by: bevin | Feb 22 2024 21:39 utc | 40 @Posted by: Albert65de | Feb 22 2024 19:05 utc | 23
The Climate Epochs That Weren’t meanwhile back at the israeli-Lebanon ranch Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 22 2024 21:46 utc | 42 When in hospital in Germany, Navalnyvwas diagnosed a surprising amount of ailments.
Posted by: Passerby | Feb 22 2024 21:49 utc | 43 Posted by: bevin | Feb 22 2024 21:39 utc | 40 Posted by: Echo Chamber | Feb 22 2024 21:50 utc | 44 @Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 22 2024 20:53 utc | 33 FFS Bevin, Posted by: Echo Chamber | Feb 22 2024 21:59 utc | 46 Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy was written by an English guy (Douglas Adams) for the state propaganda network the BBC, so yeah probably just the usual Cold War propaganda. The UK hit shitification way before the US. Before Xis’ One Belt One Road, Syria’s Assad announced, and you might Google this: “Assad’s Four Seas Policy”. Posted by: Hot Carl | Feb 22 2024 22:32 utc | 48 Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy was written by an English guy (Douglas Adams) for the state propaganda network the BBC, so yeah probably just the usual Cold War propaganda. The UK hit shitification way before the US. Posted by: Passerby | Feb 22 2024 22:34 utc | 49 My spell checker decided to change “Pakistan” to “Palestine”. Posted by: Hot Carl | Feb 22 2024 22:36 utc | 50 @Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 22 2024 22:19 utc | 47 persiflo | Feb 22 2024 17:27 utc | 11 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 22 2024 22:47 utc | 52 reveal a surprising number of medical symptoms, … acute pancreatitis, diabetes, liver failure, severe dehydration, muscular rigidity, Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 22 2024 23:08 utc | 53 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 22 2024 22:47 utc | 52
Makes his money with what his mouth says… WESTERN-USA HEGEMONY COLLAPSE? Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 22 2024 23:34 utc | 55 Scorpion | Feb 22 2024 23:09 utc | 54 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 22 2024 23:51 utc | 56 Outside of immediately relatable analogies (metaphorical, symbolic, allegorical, etc.) this is where World War II belongs. 🙂 Please keep this Moon clean and recycle your tosh in the proper bin. Thank you, everyone! ^.^ Posted by: titmouse | Feb 23 2024 0:09 utc | 57 All power to @ Brautigan | Feb 22 2024 18:28 utc | 17 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 23 2024 0:26 utc | 58 Cognitive Dissonance runs deep. There is no Power in this world greater than entrenched collective Beliefs. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 23 2024 0:31 utc | 59 Roger Altman is not an ideologue. Posted by: Echo Chamber | Feb 23 2024 0:42 utc | 60 Roger | Feb 22 2024 21:40 utc | 41–
Yes, there’s more to that part of the discussion and to the other ideas voiced at the Forum. IMO, Putin’s words were the sharpest he’s spoken on the topic that I know of. Three Minute Philosophy – John Locke, Thomas Hobbes and America: then and now. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 23 2024 0:54 utc | 62 From the Too Funny Dept, RT reports:
The affair is hilarious, particularly the responses from the DC idiot brigade. @ karlof1 | Feb 23 2024 0:46 utc | 61 with Putin’s PRUDENT remarks about environmental change…thanks Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 23 2024 0:59 utc | 64 The lead idea suggested at the ASI Forum was supported by Putin and the government has given it further study to the point where RT has published an article about it: I believe the US was sniffing around the Kinmen Islands a few weeks ago. Check out photos – spitting distance, literally. Posted by: daffyDuct | Feb 23 2024 1:18 utc | 66 psychohistorian | Feb 23 2024 0:59 utc | 64– I suggest that you read The Systems View of Life by Capra/Luisi and unchain yourself from the narrow mechanistic view of the Cosmos we live in. Posted by: UWDude | Feb 23 2024 1:36 utc | 68 Wow! Former Senate aide Tara Reade told RT some interesting things during their interview, whose headlines read:
Powerful testimony. How many more will vote with their feet? Scorpion Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 23 2024 1:51 utc | 70 Posted by: persiflo | Feb 22 2024 21:17 utc | 37 Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 23 2024 1:54 utc | 71 Posted by: Roger | Feb 22 2024 21:57 utc | 45 Posted by: Constantine | Feb 23 2024 2:02 utc | 72 @ UWDude | Feb 23 2024 1:36 utc | 68 who seems to think math is some sort of religion instead of an incomplete human language Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 23 2024 2:13 utc | 73 Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 23 2024 1:38 utc | 69 Posted by: Constantine | Feb 23 2024 2:15 utc | 74 Posted by: persiflo | Feb 22 2024 21:17 utc | 37 Posted by: UWDude | Feb 23 2024 2:18 utc | 75 karlof1 | Feb 23 2024 1:38 utc | 69 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 23 2024 2:22 utc | 76 @Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 23 2024 0:46 utc | 61
Wailing about cultic thinking, religious type beliefs, wokeism, crazy greenies, lying climate scientists, intentionally manipulated data is NOT being ‘scientific’ or logical. Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 23 2024 2:33 utc | 78 @Karlof1 10, 65, 67: Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Feb 23 2024 2:36 utc | 79 @ UWDude | Feb 23 2024 1:36 utc | 68 Posted by: UWDude | Feb 23 2024 2:37 utc | 80 @ UWDude | Feb 23 2024 2:37 utc | 80 who may not like another book suggestion from me….grin Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 23 2024 3:01 utc | 81 Re: USA v China Posted by: Ron | Feb 23 2024 3:07 utc | 82 Does he say their brains are empty? Posted by: UWDude | Feb 23 2024 3:18 utc | 83 Ron | Feb 23 2024 3:07 utc | 82 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 23 2024 3:20 utc | 84 All that denial and obfuscation of the stone cold reality of global warming must be recognized as Simpletonian Physics, incapable of application to anything other than outright lies. Posted by: Not Ewe | Feb 23 2024 3:26 utc | 85 Is it because of historical Chinese migration and the knowledge that there are Chinese communities in the US where they can fit in? Posted by: UWDude | Feb 23 2024 3:26 utc | 86 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 23 2024 1:51 utc | 70 Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 23 2024 1:38 utc | 69 Scorpion | Feb 23 2024 3:31 utc | 87 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 23 2024 3:46 utc | 89 UWDude | Feb 23 2024 3:26 utc | 86 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 23 2024 4:00 utc | 90 Voters, dumb as a bag of spanners. Posted by: Honzo | Feb 23 2024 4:13 utc | 91 The only way that I can make sense of the ridiculous suicidal stupidity of all western leadership is their moral vacuity which they compensate for by ideology or by narrative. Their perceptions and values serve an ideology rather pragmatic governance for the people they were empowered to serve. Posted by: simon crow | Feb 23 2024 4:16 utc | 92 Its not that I “believe” in the paranormal now, as I find belief limiting. Life has billions of moments. But it certainly is interesting. Posted by: Honzo | Feb 23 2024 4:21 utc | 93 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zua5Bf2w0wU&t=1742s The only way that I can make sense of the ridiculous suicidal stupidity of all western leadership is their moral vacuity which they compensate for by ideology or by narrative. Their perceptions and values serve an ideology rather pragmatic governance for the people they were empowered to serve. Posted by: Honzo | Feb 23 2024 4:26 utc | 95 Looking at Gaza news, I came across an interesting article in Al Jazeera about Chinese migration to the US, fraught with dangers: Posted by: Honzo | Feb 23 2024 4:34 utc | 96 As I remember, the way you draw a Mandelbrot set is by iterating a particular function recursively over some part of the complex plane, with some cutoff for max iterations, and then you color the area based on how long it takes the iteration to stop at each point, black when it never stops, other colors for steps in how long it takes to stop. Near zero it stops, farther away, it doesn’t stop (it diverges), but there are exceptions to that… Posted by: Honzo | Feb 23 2024 4:49 utc | 97 “not leave one stone atop another” Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 23 2024 5:02 utc | 98 Like Brautigan said global warming is real and IPCC is not wrong about its cause being human use of fossile fuels Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 23 2024 5:09 utc | 99 Posted by: Honzo | Feb 23 2024 4:34 utc | 96 Posted by: Ron | Feb 23 2024 5:10 utc | 100 |
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