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February 9, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-042
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As I said in yesterday’s thread: expecting Tucker Carlson to understand Russian thinking, and more broadly, worldly affairs, as conveyed by the world-class statesman Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, is like asking a golden retriever to design a space station. Tucker was merely a medium through which Mr. Putin spoke to – and warned – Jippy Bidden’s controllers. Posted by: Matthew | Feb 10 2024 5:33 utc | 201 “Show me the data that proves how many watched the 2 hour interview. Posted by: Dalit | Feb 10 2024 5:43 utc | 202 juliania | Feb 10 2024 3:21 utc | 189– Dalit | Feb 10 2024 5:43 utc | 200 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 10 2024 5:54 utc | 204 “Stats are under the video. Hardly rocket science to read them. Posted by: Dalit | Feb 10 2024 6:11 utc | 205 “X, formerly Twitter, becomes No. 1 app on US App Store after news of Tucker Carlson-Putin interview emerges” https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/x-formerly-twitter-becomes-no-172829215.html Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 10 2024 6:13 utc | 206 US 2020 election – “Americans voted in record numbers in last year’s presidential election, casting nearly 158.4 million ballots” Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 10 2024 6:27 utc | 207 Pakistan is a country of 230 million people.
Happy Lunar New Year 🐉 Posted by: too scents | Feb 10 2024 6:31 utc | 208 interesting commentary indeed. I think the interview went tolerably well and its audience numbers are a bloody good start towards a better understanding in the West as to the venality of its leadershit class. Posted by: eagle eye | Feb 10 2024 6:49 utc | 209 I have a friend who is very talented and below is an example of that talent Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 10 2024 7:02 utc | 210 @158 jake Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 10 2024 7:52 utc | 211 “Take Waterloo: a Rothschild’s private Intelligence service carrier pigeon informed London just before the open that Napoleon had won the battle; shortly thereafter the Rothschilds had bought up nearly all UK private companies at pennies to the pound; then later official messages arrived with the news that actually Wellington had won immediately after which the prices went back up and then some, only now one family controlled pretty much the entire national economy (including the Crown). That’s what they do, not protect their people. CO2 is beneficial to the planet both for humans, animals in plants-don’t let the Reptiles who want our demise persued Don’t underestimate Tucker Carlson. He was not out of his depth it was just very a very different experience and please rubbishing all Americans is what Hilary Clinton does to those she doesn’t like remember basket of deplorables? Dalit | Feb 10 2024 5:43 utc | 200 Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 10 2024 12:23 utc | 215 Germany has strict laws prohibiting support of nazism. Posted by: MAKK | Feb 10 2024 12:35 utc | 216 Posted by: canuck | Feb 10 2024 10:50 utc | 211 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 10 2024 13:04 utc | 217 To Chinese readers… Posted by: denk | Feb 10 2024 13:05 utc | 218 @ Posted by: Afro | Feb 9 2024 13:04 utc | 12 Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 10 2024 13:18 utc | 219 Have caught up on all the comments now – excellent by the usual suspects. Bullshit by the usual suspects. Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 10 2024 13:25 utc | 220 … But what do I know? Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 10 2024 13:35 utc | 221 Canuck you are absolutely right, but there’s another little wrinkle to the ‘more CO2 means more warning’. Posted by: scepticalSOB | Feb 10 2024 13:40 utc | 222 Is not the expression “usual suspects” a bit antisemitic by now? Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 10 2024 13:44 utc | 223 The two candidates for president of the USA Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 10 2024 13:47 utc | 224 While I’m late to this discussion and realize that Bernhard may begin another thread, I’m wondering if any barflies remember an extended video interview that VVP gave to a British questioner several years ago. The most striking aspect of it was VVP’s insistence upon and examples of the West’s moral decay and the failure of Liberalism and Enlightenment values. On a philosophical level, it was the best I’ve seen—more so than even Oliver Stone’s. Posted by: Ciaran | Feb 10 2024 13:48 utc | 225 Oh, about video stats and whether Americans watched/read the whole thing, let alone understood it, I defer to my experience living in USA: people here like to comment, share, bookmark, and carry around texts like a talisman, the actual consumption and digestion thereof is nowhere as important as the signalling. e.g. religious text, political treatise, etc. Posted by: titmouse | Feb 10 2024 14:10 utc | 226 Thank you b, for all your posts and efforts ( much appreciated as I never read MSM bullshit since at least 10 years ago), and now I read only your articles. Comments less and less… Posted by: stranger | Feb 10 2024 14:46 utc | 227 To non-maths people, it’s like the law of diminishing returns. Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 10 2024 14:50 utc | 228 Thanks for all the feedback on the situation in Serbia. Here are some final points for the day on this discussion. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Feb 10 2024 14:58 utc | 229 This became the Rothschild family’s mantra — control the world by controlling the world’s money supply.” Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 15:01 utc | 230 Mathematically, the way CO2 absorbs energy, beyond a certain point, is LOGARYTHMIC. that is the CO2 is saturated, and the more CO2 you add now, the more NEGLIGIBLE the temperature increase. Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 15:08 utc | 231 And watch what b. gave you, hopefully Stone is not too much for you. Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 15:25 utc | 232 This became the Rothschild family’s mantra — control the world by controlling the world’s money supply.” And to think that the United States once hosted political exchanges of the level of the Lincoln-Douglas debates. How the mighty have fallen. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 10 2024 15:36 utc | 234 Canuck you are absolutely right, but there’s another little wrinkle to the ‘more CO2 means more warning’. 2. I wonder whether Putin, with his history lesson, wasn’t also saying that Poland has always been a problem for Russia! Also, with in the confines of “the Ukraine.” Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 10 2024 15:47 utc | 236 Agreed that most of what the Russian President said was known by many or most here. Good for review of the facts. However, there are always little gems that are worth looking for, e.g.: Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 10 2024 15:57 utc | 237 Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 10 2024 2:55 utc | 179 To Chinese readers…
Listen up ! Posted by: denk | Feb 10 2024 16:01 utc | 239 Re The Interview, my Russia correspondent wrote the following. He gave Tucker higher points than most here, so in in fairness to Tucker, here are my Russian friend’s comments as he wrote them:
Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 16:05 utc | 240 When one engineers the ‘weather’, one should be prepared for unintended consequences. But to burry the real reason the weather is fucked and go off and debate the foibles of human development as the reason and completely ignore the Companies that are registered and trading on the stock exchange, companies that fly in the upper atmosphere and perform weather modification operations….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 10 2024 16:06 utc | 241
Well, Dugin is rightly credited with being the main thought leader of the multipolarity concept since the 90’s. The meme that he is ‘Putin’s brain’ is silly but that he is influential is beyond question though, obviously, a philosopher not leader like Putin. Posted by: canuck | Feb 10 2024 9:53 utc | 210 canuck | Feb 10 2024 10:50 utc | 211 Posted by: jef | Feb 10 2024 16:43 utc | 244 I found the interview I referenced earlier—it was with the Financial Times. 90 minutes, adversarial interviewer. Putin deftly avoids confrontation when possible but also uses verbal judo to turn questions back onto the interviewer. Excellent. Posted by: Ciaran | Feb 10 2024 16:51 utc | 245 On the day of the release of the Tucker Carlson interview with Vladimir Putin, Feb. 8, 2024, I am sad, distraught, to say that what could have been, should have been, a history-changing communication with the leader of the Russian people would have been turned into a hot mess by Tucker. But wasn’t, thanks to the brilliance and GOODNESS of a greater man, President Putin. Amazingly, President Putin graciously (unbelievably!) managed to defuse hand grenades lobbed at him by Carlson. I can’t tell you how disappointed I am by this man that I have been idolizing. Tucker was a turd for two solid hours. So much for Tucker as the unquestionable best choice for VP. I can only hope that Carlson will watch his own interview MANY times….and then FIGURE OUT what an ass he was as he tried to blow this historic opportunity to do something truly great for our people, and for the world. Posted by: ld | Feb 10 2024 16:55 utc | 246 Posted by: canuck | Feb 10 2024 9:53 utc | 210 Posted by: Jake.Blanchard | Feb 10 2024 3:14 utc | 187 Posted by: jef | Feb 10 2024 16:43 utc | 244 “Mathematically, the way CO2 absorbs energy, beyond a certain point, is LOGARYTHMIC. that is the CO2 is saturated, and the more CO2 you add now, the more NEGLIGIBLE the temperature increase. Hi all. Posted by: Sebgo | Feb 10 2024 17:23 utc | 251 Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 15:25 utc | 232 Posted by: stranger | Feb 10 2024 17:27 utc | 252 Watch and support! Posted by: Tom2 | Feb 10 2024 17:42 utc | 253
For over six months have been refusing to try to write out a political theory essay that includes two principle elements: You are not welcome, and about your children, grandchildren, I do not really care. Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 17:52 utc | 255 Republican Marsha Blackburn
Posted by: denk | Feb 10 2024 18:08 utc | 256 Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 15:25 utc | 232 Posted by: stranger | Feb 10 2024 18:21 utc | 257 Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 10 2024 7:02 utc | 210
http://tinyurl.com/3dsj9r88 Posted by: denk | Feb 10 2024 18:26 utc | 259 Posted by: stranger | Feb 10 2024 17:27 utc | 251 Re: Tucker’s interview with Vlad Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 10 2024 18:30 utc | 261 “I did not do anything but worn you, you are not welcome anymore to most of the world, and it is huge. As for those Chinese 5th columns in Oz….. Posted by: denk | Feb 10 2024 18:34 utc | 263 Neither she has any ideas, dear canuck, nor I did rant against her personality which she has not, I simply warned her that she is not welcome in the most of the world.Because she is not.Due to what she is. Posted by: stranger | Feb 10 2024 18:41 utc | 264 Posted by: stranger | Feb 10 2024 18:41 utc | 262 I watch MSNBC or other such MSM channels once in a while to get the ‘feel’ of the Empire’s narrative as they do nothing but. [canuk how many times do have I to tell you not to end a sentence with a preposition? editor] Just shut up, as you do not understand much, I am not either angry not wounded. You waste my time, ms janehasbara. Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 18:58 utc | 267 Yea! Cannuck has solved global warming. Everyone can rest easy and crank up your f450 v10 and drive to the mall. Posted by: jef | Feb 10 2024 19:00 utc | 268 @ by: canuck | Feb 10 2024 18:57 utc | 264 Posted by: malenkov | Feb 10 2024 19:05 utc | 269 @Posted by: Hankster | Feb 10 2024 4:14 utc | 196 Yea! Cannuck has solved global warming. Everyone can rest easy and crank up your f450 v10 and drive to the mall.
Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 19:28 utc | 271 Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 19:28 utc | 269 Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 10 2024 19:35 utc | 272 What they might do is have a huddle with the Democratic Supreme Court judges and have one resign then Biden appoints Harris. She’s out of Dodge Then they appoint a VP -Hillary, Newsome, Michelle Obama ( I can’t think of any others? help me) then old Joe gets put down. Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 19:38 utc | 273 Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 19:38 utc | 271 Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 19:41 utc | 274
Exactly! You got it! The first gem was designed to be processed carefully in DC Metro, IMHO. Posted by: N Hanrahan | Feb 10 2024 19:59 utc | 276 Laff break: Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 20:02 utc | 277 No, Jane or whatever your name is. Posted by: stranger | Feb 10 2024 20:03 utc | 278 dementia joe and word salad kamala what a team. Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 10 2024 20:06 utc | 279 https://t.me/sharanism/26667 Posted by: Arioch | Feb 10 2024 20:22 utc | 280 ld | Feb 10 2024 16:55 utc | 246 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 10 2024 20:23 utc | 281 Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 19:28 utc | 269 Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 20:23 utc | 282 As to Putin’s reference to Rome and the slow fall of Rome – then saying things happen much faster these days – I believe was in direct reference to the US. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 10 2024 20:27 utc | 283 I am not ranting, just a little like Hamas now.The whole of the world hates you now. Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 20:34 utc | 284 Read some Henry James. Posted by: malenkov | Feb 10 2024 21:04 utc | 285 Posted by: Jane | Feb 10 2024 20:34 utc | 281 Posted by: stranger | Feb 10 2024 21:12 utc | 286 Farmers protests going on in France, Spain, Italy, Poland, Germany. Probably elsewhere too but I can’t find a unified source. Posted by: Minaa | Feb 10 2024 21:15 utc | 287 Posted by: Arioch | Feb 10 2024 20:22 utc | 277 Posted by: Suresh | Feb 10 2024 21:16 utc | 288 For those interested in climate and its chaotic nature, there is an Australian weather forecaster whose work is worth a bit of study. His name is Inigo Jones, and he has been forecasting for at least 30 years, that I know of. He has a Telegram channel and a facebook page, for those interested. His delivery is unusual but the results are there to see. His method of forecasting relies on astrological positioning relative to the location he is forecasting for. His strike rate is a hell of a lot more impressive that the government funded scientists here, whose efforts lately betray a severe case of agrophobia. In other words, they seem unable to get up and look out the window. Their latest effort has been to predict a severe drought associated with an EL Nino weather pattern, while Jones has correctly predicted the rain dates that have flooded the east coast since November last year. He is predicting huge floods between 2025 and 2029 in Eastern Australia, up to levels not seen since the 1700’s. If he is correct, and science does what it is supposed to do there should be some interesting revisions of weather forecasting methods coming. Posted by: eagle eye | Feb 10 2024 21:29 utc | 289 Pakistan elections: Posted by: smuks | Feb 10 2024 21:41 utc | 290 There are news articles about the EU threatening Victor Orban to crash the Hungarian economy and Hungarian currency unless Orban removed his veto to EU billions for Ukraine. Posted by: Passerby | Feb 10 2024 21:50 utc | 291 Re The Interview, to me, to evaluate it properly is not to endlessly discuss what Putin said and/or how incompetent TC was. It is to see what will actually change in the policies and actions of the different governments which have created and sustained the situation. Yes, many common folks will hear it. But will that filter up the chains of command to effect what RF would like? Dunno. Doubt it. Posted by: Jake.Blanchard | Feb 10 2024 21:50 utc | 292 Yea! Cannuck has solved global warming. Everyone can rest easy and crank up your f450 v10 and drive to the mall. Putin didn’t answer the question what ‘Orthodoxy’ means to him personally. Posted by: smuks | Feb 10 2024 22:28 utc | 294 https://inigojoneslongtermweatherforecaster.com Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 10 2024 22:48 utc | 295 I hadn’t heard of Jones for that long I thought he had long since kicked the bucket. Drowned out by yuppy/political science I guess. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 10 2024 22:51 utc | 296 smuks | Feb 10 2024 22:28 utc | 291 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 10 2024 23:03 utc | 297 Peter AU1 | Feb 10 2024 23:03 utc | 294 Posted by: smuks | Feb 10 2024 23:24 utc | 298 canuck | Feb 10 2024 22:01 utc | 290 Posted by: smuks | Feb 10 2024 23:32 utc | 299 The great Vladimir Putin has displayed his genius by using a very broad brush that appeals a large global audience. Thanks to Carlson & Putin, many millions all around the world are recognizing that the trillions the US has poured into the MIC in the last 50 yrs were justified with big lies, and most of it went into $hitholes for a few. The extremism of the deep state/neocons is forcing the rest of the world to come together, recognizing the toxic nature of the cancerous leadership of AIPAC/Israel/USA. It’s also forcing countless Americans to recognize that our “democracy” or “democratic republic” are also big lies.
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