Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
February 5, 2024
In The Middle East The U.S. Has Reached The End Of Its Abilities

The Biden administration is trying everything to better the situation for the Israeli government except by withdrawing its financial and munition support which are the only two measures that could bring Israel to its senses.

There are now several small wars in the Middle East which may soon accumulate into a big one. Israel is fighting Hamas and the Islamic Jihad in Gaza. It is fighting a silent resistance in the West Bank. On its norther borders it is involved in daily clashes with Hizbullah and various Palestinian resistance groups.

Israel is also bombing Syria and killing Iranian envoys to that country. Iraqi and Syrian resistance groups are attacking U.S. bases in Syria and Iraq. The U.S. is bombing these groups for more or less therapeutic purposes while trying to not hurt them too much. In the Red Sea the Ansarullah government of Yemen is blocking sea traffic related to Israel, the U.S. and UK. The U.S. and UK are bombing Ansarullah positions even as they know that no amount of bombing will change its position.

People in other Arab countries, while seemingly calm, are enraged over Israel's genocidal behavior in Gaza. Their leaders try to keep their distances from the wars but at some point may well be forced to take sides in it.

Meanwhile the U.S., the alleged superpower, is hapless and helplessly trying to achieve results that are way beyond its abilities.

See for one example the last attempt by a U.S. envoy to prevent a further escalation with Lebanon:

US presents new blueprint to push Hezbollah away from Israeli borderYnetnews, Feb 4 2024

U.S. President Joe Biden's Middle East envoy Amos Hochstein outlined the key elements of a political settlement to deescalate tensions between Israel and Hezbollah during his visit to the Jewish state on Sunday.

The plan consists of two phases: In the first, Hezbollah would cease hostilities actions along the border with Israel and will retreat between eight to ten kilometers north from the border.

Israeli residents will return to their homes, and a significant deployment of the Lebanese army and UNIFIL peacekeeping forces will maintain stability in southern Lebanon and along the border.

In the second phase, Israel and Lebanon will begin negotiations to demarcate the land border, including discussions on 13 points on disputes along their shared boundaries. Simultaneously, the U.S. and the international community will explore offering "economic incentives" to Lebanon.

Hochstein received the green light from the Lebanese government for his proposal, though it remains unclear whether Hezbollah agrees with the arrangement.

The envoy, who recently met with President Isaac Herzog, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and Minister Benny Gantz urged Israel to give his plan a chance.

Nice plan. But what can you do to implement it?

How in hell will the U.S. be able to make Hezbollah to cease hostilities actions along the border with Israel and to retreat between eight to ten kilometers from the border?

Hizbullah fighters at the border are living in the border towns. They were born there. They want to die there. How the f*** does the U.S. think they can be pushed out? And why would Hizbullah agree to a ceasefire when the murdering of Palestinians in Gaza continues to be the major project of Israel?

The U.S. has no means, none, to press Hizbullah into a ceasefire or to push it to retreat from the border line.

The Lebanese government supports that move? Sure, verbally, as long as you cough up some money. But Hizbullah is part of that government. It is also the superior military power in Lebanon. Neither the Lebanese army nor the U.N. forces have the ability to fight it.

Step one is thereby meaningless. Step two, a promise for negotiations between Israel and Lebanon, makes likewise no sense as Israel is notoriously unwilling to make any concessions.

If baseless fantasies like the above are all the U.S. can come up with it is truly at the end of its abilities.

A chance of  a war between Israel and Hizbullah in Lebanon is increasing daily. While there are already daily clashes these are limited by certain red lines and targets. Both sides still avoid to cross those.

But Israel's government needs a victory. Its war aims in Gaza are clearly not achievable. Losses are mounting. Its population, especially the settlers from the north who had to flee their homes, are unruly.

Alastair Crooke thinks (vid) that Israel will start a full out war with Hizbullah simply because the Israeli government needs a victory. He thinks that Netanyahoo still thinks he can achieve one. Others though have their doubts. Hizbullah today is far better equipped and trained than it had been during the 2006 war with Israel. That war ended in a draw or, as some see it, with a defeat of Israel. I know of no expert in that area who thinks that Israel today would fare any better than that.

I'd say let them try. The may well learn from it.

But why the Biden administration even thinks that it can stop such a clash by presenting plans it has no means to press for is beyond me.

Comments

Malenkov @ 79
If you’ve never seen the research or the real info put out there by concerned citizens back in the 50’s and 60’s then you really shouldn’t have a casual opinion one way or another. When you have seen with your own eyes all the damning counter info against this hoax then you can’t ever unsee it. Then you’ll be constantly ridiculed (like myself) by those just trying to get people to look for themselves.

Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 5 2024 21:28 utc | 101

Tony Blinken – The Empire’s Black Knight
Monty Python – Tony The Black Knight – Tis But A Scratch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs [3 mins]

Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 5 2024 21:32 utc | 102

The use of gas for industrial murder is not being contested here, surely? Critique of Israeli genocide does not require denying the historical reality of Nazi ethnic cleansing. If this is where discussion at the bar is headed it’s alarming.
Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 19:59 utc | 72
Surely you are aware that you are being lied to currently pver Gaza and over every major historical event of your lifetimes by our media and government officials at the behest of powerful, undisclosed actors. What makes you think life was very different 80 years ago?

Posted by: Turk 152 | Feb 5 2024 21:36 utc | 103

Were there even that many jews living in Europe prior to 1932?
Various sources (jewish and non jewish) had world wide jewish population around 15million from the 1930s through the late 1940s. 15m – 6m = 15m is jewish math.
As for any peace deals, how can anyone trust ZOG or jewish authorities? Has either ever kept to a deal?

Posted by: c matt | Feb 5 2024 21:38 utc | 104

Pacifica @ 85
There are archives of verboten research that never sees the light of day because, well because it doesn’t fit the holohoax narrative. There are videos and documentation 75 years old that is never shown on MSM for good fucking reason!
One of my favourite videos had to do with a construction team that tried to duplicate burning a huge amount of dead and diseased cows and other organic piles 140 lbs each back in 1955, these folks were overwhelmed after only 200,000 since they didn’t even burn properly and they used wood as well as coal. They posited it would take roughly 20 years or so to burn through completely all the bodies the talmoodists stated. This video had the look and audio of 50’s technology so it was made back in a time when the zios weren’t as anal as they are today.

Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 5 2024 21:42 utc | 105

While it no doubt would be excellent for the indiscriminate civilian bombing/killing to stop in Gaza today, that’s just not how the real world works, and while one can hope for that it is not realistic.
In order for the killing to stop you are basically asking Israeli government to admit defeat and open itself to some type of internal coup and large internal public unrest, it’s not going to happen. You are also asking the hegemon indirectly to admit it no longer has any deterrent power in the Middle East and must therefore pull out, this also dooms Israel as a strictly “Jewish” state in the medium term.
What is happening now is actually happening quite fast, the biggest credit goes to Yemen/Houthis as large parts of the US elite did not want to overtly start striking in the Middle East even with AirPower as they know the endgame for this is going to either be the decision to commit ground troops in a large capacity against Iran or pull out of Iraq/Syria in the short term and a large part of the Middle East in the long run. The Houthi’s called the US bluff and forced the US hand and as we can see the US Navy is being exposed in a massive way.
The current crisis is not about the Palestinians , yes they are horribly suffering but this is a much larger issue , even the Oct 12th attack had not happened it would have happened elsewhere maybe Lebanon/Syria/Yemen/Iraq, etc. Important to note that even if this Palestinian crisis was somehow solved it would not stop the current escalation process as Iran has decided it wants the US out of Syria/Iraq for starters.

Posted by: silverdog | Feb 5 2024 21:44 utc | 106

They create their own reality and while peeps like u and me are scratchin ourheads in wonderment they have moved on to a different created reality. HT to carl rove
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Feb 5 2024 21:21 utc | 98
If only they’d create a new reality that did not in any way overlap with the one the rest of us live in.

Posted by: Honzo | Feb 5 2024 21:45 utc | 107

Turk @ 103
BINGO!!

Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 5 2024 21:45 utc | 108

oldhippie | Feb 5 2024 20:17 utc | 75–
Thanks for your reply. Yes, there’ll be a percentage of Jews who renounce Zionism, and as you point out, that sect is a very small proportion of Humanity. The problem of course is that small percentage was set on its course by Humanity’s greatest woe–Imperialism. And in order to free Humanity from its woe, Zionism and its enclave will need to go first. How much Bang and Boom and weeping happens before that moment is unknown, but it will come.
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On the Holocaust of Slavs, Chinese and other peoples during WW2, all total numbers are going to be estimates as there’s no way to obtain exact figures. And do note who I include as victims; Jews are perhaps fifth on that list, maybe even lower as IMO the nationality ought to be noted first as plenty of Christians and Confucians died along with atheists, animists and others including Jews. My overall argument is that Jews are not deserving of the Front Seat in the Holocaust Count and thus Ownership of that distinction and “Claim to Fame.” So, in a manner of speaking, I’m a “Holocaust Denier” because I deny Jews their self-proclaimed distinction as the Sole Victim. It would be good for Humanity to adopt the very big distinction I make as it would also recognize the very huge numbers of Chinese that died from Japan’s version of Plan Ost.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 5 2024 21:47 utc | 109

But why the Biden administration even thinks that it can stop such a clash by presenting plans it has no means to press for is beyond me.
Posted by b on February 5, 2024 at 15:29 UTC | Permalink
Being an Empire that has its commands obeyed without question for decades creates an ingrained mentality that is very hard to cast away.
They think it will happen simply because it’s their Will.
These guys are delusional in the sense that they live in a glorious past.
Their own hubris and narcissism, their own lies they have swallowed, their entire worldview upon which they base their everyday life, do not allow them to see that the world has changed.
They urgently need a reality check. And they’re rushing towards one.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Feb 5 2024 21:51 utc | 110

We are headed for real trouble, unless this unholy union of current US/ British / EU administration and the crazed ultra-Zionists of Israel can be brought to their senses. We are fast approaching a point where there will be severe consequences. The real analysts all indicate that the US military will be in way over its head, and does not have sufficient munitions or men to take on the combined might of the foe they will face. Israel’s continued existence as a country will be in serious jeopardy. A new US administration cannot come soon enough.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Feb 5 2024 21:59 utc | 111

Nicaragua takes Canada, UK, Germany and the Netherlands to ICJ Court. (Complicity in the Gaza genocide.) Source: DD Geopolitics Telegram
Has this already been posted? I didn‘t check all the postings.

Posted by: NoName | Feb 5 2024 22:04 utc | 112

@ canuck 61
please take some time to read at link below on the extensively researched and very detailed article on this contentious topic, (with references), on the rise and suppression of Holocaust denial; written by a once sceptic Jew on the purported 6 million figure..[ever since 1869] and after ww 2, subsequently revised down.
@ Patroklos 72 in reply to canuck @ 61
yes, please read the suggested article at link that addressed your question [.]“Majdanek, Belżec, Sobibor and Treblinka alone at over 1.2M in 1942 alone. The use of gas for industrial murder is not being contested here, surely?
[.] was it Zyklon B as was posited – “a delousing agent that for decades was used by the U.S. government for immigrants entering at its Mexican border”
You are in for a surprise. Pre-alert: 17,600 words with 2,327 comments
The Holocaust Denial

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 5 2024 22:07 utc | 113

@ karlof1 | Feb 5 2024 21:47 utc | 109
And not just the Japanese: Chiang Kai Shek himself was responsible for the deaths of many (tens?) millions of Chinese, as well, back when he retreated across the Yellow River and destroyed all the dikes. That flood started in 1938 and lasted 9 years, FFS.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 22:07 utc | 114

Hilberg concluded that the number of Jews killed by the Nazis’ program was 5.1 million plus or minus 200,000, in other words, approximately 5 million. If that number is correct, the 6 million figure is wrong. If the person who is considered the best expert on the matter said the correct number is 5 million, why is it considered a criminal offense in many countries to question the 6 million figure?

Posted by: Lysias | Feb 5 2024 22:08 utc | 115

A few years back IDF Chief of Staff Yair Golan stated a few years back that “The IDF today mustn’t be obsessed about not getting stuck in Lebanon again, and must instead focus on defeating Hezbollah..” That seems to me to be a signal that they’ve been preparing for this war for a while, and intends on going forward with it when the time is right.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/forty-years-later-israels-scars-from-first-lebanon-war-still-havent-healed/

Posted by: Noah Nehm | Feb 5 2024 22:12 utc | 116

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 20:24 utc | 79
Sure, I can’t disagree with you there. If we include extermination directed against others the number certainly goes higher. The bullet accounts for at least as many deaths, if not more, than industrial factory processes used in Reinhard. There do seem to be a few deniers here though who would contest everything you say. It seems astonishing to me that the conversation here would include serious attempts to diminish the atrocities committed by the Nazis.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 22:16 utc | 117

Posted by: Jane | Feb 5 2024 20:52 utc | 86
Newbie? I’ve been posting here since 2018; I guess it all comes down to one’s definition of newbie.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 22:19 utc | 118

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 20:24 utc | 79
And what of the non-Jews rounded up and killed in the same manner? Of which I believe there were at least a few million as well.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 5 2024 22:25 utc | 119

I, for one, would never ever diminish the crimes committed by the Nazis, Imperial Japan, Stalin, Pol Pot, the US since 1492 nor any other human evil. The absurdity lies in the fact only one religious group seems able to escape any historical reckoning for what they have done with no apologies.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 5 2024 22:27 utc | 120

For those with no access to Telegram:
Nicaragua taking Germany, Canada, UK, Netherlands to ICJ for genocide
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/nicaragua-taking-germany–canada–uk–netherlands-to-icj-for

Posted by: NoName | Feb 5 2024 22:29 utc | 121

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 5 2024 22:25 utc | 119
Not meaning to pun or anything, but they count too.
To me the numbers are less important than the reasons why various demographics were targeted. It’s this consideration, and not the numbers in themselves, that yields an understanding of the history.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 22:30 utc | 122

One of my favourite videos had to do with a construction team that tried to duplicate burning a huge amount of dead and diseased cows and other organic piles 140 lbs each back in 1955, these folks were overwhelmed after only 200,000 since they didn’t even burn properly and they used wood as well as coal. They posited it would take roughly 20 years or so to burn through completely all the bodies the talmoodists stated. This video had the look and audio of 50’s technology so it was made back in a time when the zios weren’t as anal as they are today.
Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 5 2024 21:42 utc | 105
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What I said, re “Wait for it.”
The crematoria idiots who never heard of the Fa. Topf and think their experiments with cows prove something.
Besides being OT here, Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany, where b is located.
I am surprised that b allows it here.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 5 2024 22:34 utc | 123

Posted by: Jane | Feb 5 2024 20:52 utc | 86
Newbie? I’ve been posting here since 2018; I guess it all comes down to one’s definition of newbie.
Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 22:19 utc | 118
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Sorry—maybe I am the newbie!
It’s just that I am surprised at your surprise.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 5 2024 22:37 utc | 124

“Conveniently there’s millions of military aged men coming in as illegal immigrants, many of whom are duly registered through various aid programs. . . .Hard to imagine a more expendable, powerless group to exploit.”
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Feb 5 2024 16:03 utc | 7
Now that is an interesting observation. Conscription of “deplorable” that the Republicans, and secretly the Democrats, could really get behind.
Is this the next chess move – Posted by: Johann von Oberndorf | Feb 5 2024 19:02 utc | 56

Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Feb 5 2024 22:40 utc | 125

Amos Hochstein. Middle East envoy and Israeli American LOBBYIST. Jesus. Are there any NON JEWS in this administration? Maybe one out of 15 is a goyim? Maybe. Jesus H. Christ on a trisket, that place must be absolutely desolate on Jewish high holidays.

Posted by: Zippy the Pinhead | Feb 5 2024 22:41 utc | 126

Posted by: Jane | Feb 5 2024 22:37 utc | 124
I guess it’s not surprising given the revisionist trends of recent years, not all of which is wrong-headed. History is complicated and Malenkov is right to pose different questions. Much of the discontent here is directed at the way a particular population have successfully monopolized victimhood and now use it to justify their own ethno-nationalist war of extermination. That said, the Jews were singled out for exceptional treatment under the Third Reich, whose war was a war of extermination directed at them quite specifically. If they have monopolized victimhood successfully it is in large part due to the single-minded fixation of the Nazis on the figure of the Jew as the scapegoat for capitalism, modernity, etc, etc.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 22:46 utc | 127

@ Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 22:46 utc | 127
another reason for the success ( of victimhood) is it was an intentional platform of zionism – to lean heavily on the concept of the victim, whereby there was/is no room for any other victims here – the perfect example being the palestine people living in the area of israel prior to this imperialist experiment.. they can’t be the victims because it is the jews who are the victims… twisted logic i know, but that is how zionism works..

Posted by: james | Feb 5 2024 22:51 utc | 128

I believe the Gypsies (Roma, Zigeuner) were singled out for extermination as much as the Jews were. In fact, I believe a greater percentage of the Gypsies worldwide was killed than of Jews.

Posted by: Lysias | Feb 5 2024 22:54 utc | 129

karlof1 | Feb 5 2024 21:47 utc | 109
*** On the Holocaust of Slavs, Chinese and other peoples during WW2, all total numbers are going to be estimates as there’s no way to obtain exact figures. And do note who I include as victims; Jews are perhaps fifth on that list, maybe even lower as IMO the nationality ought to be noted first as plenty of Christians and Confucians died along with atheists, animists and others including Jews. My overall argument is that Jews are not deserving of the Front Seat in the Holocaust Count and thus Ownership of that distinction and “Claim to Fame.” So, in a manner of speaking, I’m a “Holocaust Denier” because I deny Jews their self-proclaimed distinction as the Sole Victim. It would be good for Humanity to adopt the very big distinction I make as it would also recognize the very huge numbers of Chinese that died from Japan’s version of Plan Ost.***
A very important point that gets ignored in output for public consumption by “Western” establishment propagandists (and, for even more obvious reasons, by their specifically Zionist equivalents), is that both pre-WW2 and during WW2 … probably in the confusion of post WW2 as well …. Jews who deliberately broke away from the social control and structures of that religious/ethnic cult were classed by the cult as being “dead“.
Which of course these ones were not — just escaped.
Probably quite large numbers which, when included by both their former religious/social authorities *and* political operators with ulterior motives, certainly would inflate the total number claimed to be “dead”…..
Doubt the same semantic multiplier affected alleged numbers re any other ethnic, social or religious identity group.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 5 2024 22:57 utc | 130

Franz Werfel wrote The Forty Days of Musa Dagh (published in German 1933) about the Armenian Genocide because he saw the Holocaust coming.

Posted by: Lysias | Feb 5 2024 23:01 utc | 131

One bullet per jew was WAY too expensive, so they built camps for them, and shipped them there by train.

Posted by: Featherless | Feb 5 2024 23:04 utc | 132

Posted by: Lysias | Feb 5 2024 22:54 utc | 129
Does anyone notice how the topic is no longer about all the Jews in the State Department committing genocide but about Holocaust denial?

Posted by: Turk 152 | Feb 5 2024 23:06 utc | 133

Hate speech is a criminal offence. Turns out debating a subject can be deemed criminal?! Just like the WHO declared “pandemic” they marketed as Covid19. Questioning the “official” story became a criminal venture on many levels.
Today some are recognizing we should not have been censored and debates of “facts” and “science” should have been encouraged. All sectors of society have suffered with untold medical complications from the “experiment” with emergency approval.
We still have many who refuse debate (MSM) on this but most know we need it. Same goes for discussing the WWII past. One is not an “anti vaxxer” for questioning and the other is not a hater or inciting violence wishing to debate WWII facts. Yet the later will surely end up with charges.
Curiously, for me, wasn’t IBM’s start in Nazi Germany and as the war was closing the USA admin secured all their data? They were tracking closely all the incarcerated.

Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Feb 5 2024 23:10 utc | 134

That said, the Jews were singled out for exceptional treatment under the Third Reich, whose war was a war of extermination directed at them quite specifically.
Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 22:46 utc | 127

Hill berg himself admits that Nazi persecution of Jews really only took off after the international boycott against Germany was imposed by worldwide Jewish organizations.
Hill berg is The Godfather of holocaust studies.
Meanwhile, Paul Rassinier was a partisan of the French Resistance and a prisoner at both Buchenwald and Mittelbrau-Dora concentration camps and he came out quite early—in the late 1950s—saying that the emerging holocaust narrative was an elaborate hoax, and none of the claims about an orchestrated system of “death camps” were true.
I’ve met Jewish men whose parents died in Auschwitz who have quietly told me that most of what I’ve been told about the Holocaust is nonsense.
And as I mentioned above: Hillberg, who seems to be the go-to guy on Holocaust studies, doesn’t offer much in the way of direct evidence to support the claims currently promoted by Hollywood and Israel.
There does seem to me, at least, that a good pruning down of the story we’ve been told is called for. The question is, of course, by how much and in what respects? That’s all well beyond me because I don’t know German, can’t read it, and honestly the topic doesn’t much interest me. I’m far more curious about the international drug trade, Big Pharma’s “medication” of the mind (“So-Ma! So-Ma!”), and the role that all plays in the black ops side of the intelligence agencies. But I’m certainly not going to close myself off to the possibility that Hollywood, Israel, and Jewish academics have been badly exaggerating and misleading us over the years.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 23:12 utc | 135

Kicking the little brown and yellow people is great way to relaxing.

Posted by: Surferket | Feb 5 2024 23:16 utc | 136

Posted by: Turk 152 | Feb 5 2024 23:06 utc | 133
In the US it isn’t necessarily ‘the jews’ that are the evil. It is the xian zionists combined with zionist jews and the MIC (read 1%) in a final gasp to hold onto their oligarchy.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 5 2024 23:17 utc | 137

@ Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 23:12 utc | 135
i have also come away with a very different impression on the holocaust, after reading hannah arendts book ‘eichmann in jerusalem’.. i recommend the book.. i need to read more..

Posted by: james | Feb 5 2024 23:22 utc | 138

Given the woeful choice between Biden and Trump for the US electorate later this year, my take is the lesser worst is Biden as at least there is talk, finally of acceptance of a Palestine state, which Trump would instantly veto.

Posted by: Oh | Feb 5 2024 23:23 utc | 139

they keep on putting the same rejects in power in the usa.. what does that tell us? they are always israel first rejects too..
Posted by: james | Feb 5 2024 17:04 utc | 23
I suggest a different focus, james. I know I have suggested this before but maybe now it will resonate:
Money is NOT speech. My definition of speech is “words outspoken.” That definition can be paired with “money:the source of all evil”. As far as I can remembert, money has NEVER been associated with speech until by a slight of hand the US Supreme Court made it so in the ineptly named “Citizens United” case. Your question above: what does that tell us?(which I know has many answers) goes right back to this as its source, just as the problem with elections goes right back to it as well. That is, the United States of America’s Supreme Court.
Sure, they’ve got gowns and they seem very noble and remote. Too bad; they are the source of everything we are complaining about on this forum. Deep State would have NO POWER except for those two rulings. That’s genocide of the republic right there in a nutshell, in two nutshells.
And WHAT are we going to do about THAT???

Posted by: juliania | Feb 5 2024 23:28 utc | 140

This very generous deal reminds me of the one given to the PLO in 1993.
The deal was: PLO recognizes Israel (done), and in counterpart, Israel recognized the PLO as the legitimate representative of the palestinien people (now) AND to stop settlement (at some point) AND to withdraw from occupied territories(at some point) AND to discuss Jerusalem status (at some point) and the right of return(at some point).
Only PLO recognition happened, every thing else is worse:
– Isreal still occupies most of the west bank
– Jerusalem is de facto part of Israel (thanks to the wall)
– Barely any refugees came back home
– There are today 750000 settlers (they were 150000 in 1993).
Every one now knows what “at some point” means for Isreal, thanks but no thanks.

Posted by: cynical citizen | Feb 5 2024 23:29 utc | 141

Totally agree, Juliana. The fallacy of ‘money=speech’ is a far-right libertarian wet dream and is the definition of fascism, as desired by Mussolini.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 5 2024 23:31 utc | 142

@ Merv Ritchie | Feb 5 2024 23:10 utc | 134
IBM started much earlier, as Burroughs Adding Macnes, IIRC. There wasn’t much, if any, “data tracking” going on back in WWII. All records of any kind were physical files and/or their mimeographs.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 23:32 utc | 143

This is an election year in the US.
I assume, and assumptions are always dangerous, that the US is doing all it can to prevent Israel from all-out war with Hezbollah, in its own interests. Another Saigon or Kabul anyone?
Should Israel go to war with Hezbollah, then I again dangerously assume that the US will be forced, due to Israel lobby in US, to intervene against Hezbollah to prevent another Israeli defeat.
US navy in Eastern Med will then be attacked by Hezbollah. [classified UK doc provides evidence that its aircraft carrier was sabotaged by its own sailors – clever tommies]
Iran will close the Straits of Hormuz. Houtis close the Red Sea.
[Russia and Iran sign an upgraded mutual defense pact – Kinzals locked and loaded in the Black Sea with capability to send US navy to Davy Jones for a refit [ maybe but possibly what it would take to prevent all-out WWIII]
Every US base in the ME/WA will be attacked savagely by The Resistance. And the US will be run-out (for a double-duck) from Syria and Iraq.
…. back to the Black Knight – no arms, no legs, and potentially ‘headless’

Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 5 2024 23:34 utc | 144

Oh | Feb 5 2024 23:23 utc | 139
*** my take is the lesser worst is Biden as at least there is talk, finally of acceptance of a Palestine state, which Trump would instantly veto.***
As things stand, it might as well be vetoed since it would actualise as a farcical “State” comprised of a scattered jumble of disarmed window-boxes (surrounded by armed and fanatical settler militias) connected with roads controlled by the Israeli army, and with no real power or decision making home or abroad.
All funded with a percentage of profits from stolen Palestinian gas and oil.
Probably plus the “artificial island” concentration and forced-labour camp walled up somewhere in an otherwise cleared and Israeli re-developed Gaza region.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 5 2024 23:37 utc | 145

Posted by: Turk 152 | Feb 5 2024 23:06 utc | 133
In the US it isn’t necessarily ‘the jews’ that are the evil.
I didnt say that, yet here we are. Despite what the Rabbis say in the Synagogue, I dont hate anyone JUST they are Jewish. However, I really do hate Jewish people in the State Department who orchestrate genocide and hide behind the Holocaust.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Feb 5 2024 23:42 utc | 146

The caption in Farsi reads: The miracle is in our hands.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 5 2024 17:29 utc | 30
This post ⤴️ is why I freaking love this place.
> Thanks to all who contribute simple, but valuable gems.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 5 2024 23:43 utc | 147

My Post 146 was meant for Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 5 2024 23:17 utc | 137

Posted by: Turk 152 | Feb 5 2024 23:43 utc | 148

Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 5 2024 23:31 utc | 142
Thank you, hedlykarok. I was going to answer my own question by saying “We can talk about it.” You beat me to it! If the Supreme Court of the United States fancies itself as the highest court in the realm, perhaps they can be brought down a peg or two by the use of speech to describe what they are responsible for – I say they are responsible for everything that has happened since they made that ruling.
Remember that crazy guy with horns brandishing the Congressional podium? That is them; that is what they have enabled. J’accuse, Supreme Court!! If money is anything it is the muzzling of speech, as we ought clearly to have seen happening ever since that ruling was made. Since then, the crimes of a false center of power that is in no way what we ordinary people call democracy have increased insupportably!

Posted by: juliania | Feb 5 2024 23:48 utc | 149

Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 22:07 utc | 114–
Thanks for that reminder. Note how they all became allied with the Outlaw US Empire.
Oh | Feb 5 2024 23:23 utc | 139–
That bullshit coming from Biden is all related to getting reelected. Biden has been a big advocate against any solution for Palestinians, which is why he supports the Genocides–don’t forget the one he heavily abetted in Ukraine.
Cynic | Feb 5 2024 22:57 utc | 130–
Thanks for your reply. An interesting point that I recall hearing about some decades ago about converting/ed Jews being considered dead. Funny about the term “unbeliever” because everyone believes in something–and saying you don’t believe is still believing–even anarchists believe.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 5 2024 23:50 utc | 150

@ james | Feb 5 2024 23:22 utc | 138
I read that back my first year of Uni, part of our required list. About the only thing I remember is that Eichmann’s defense was that he was just a guy who switched and scheduled trains. Also, of course, that whole “banality” thing.
Interestingly, Hilberg himself was not a fan of Arendt, nor Wiesel:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/10/21/truth-and-fiction-in-elie-wiesels-night/

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 23:52 utc | 151

@Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 22:07 utc | 114

Chiang Kai Shek himself was responsible for the deaths of many (tens?) millions of Chinese, as well, back when he retreated across the Yellow River and destroyed all the dikes. That flood started in 1938 and lasted 9 years, FFS.

Source, PLEASE!!!
According to the entry at Wikipedia for this incident (I know, but just for a quick reference), the max number of the casualty cited therein is 893,303. The number in your comment is over-exaggerated. Chiang KS is not a saint but it is not right to falsify things.
Did KMT or Chiang KS do something bad to you or your family so that you keep smearing with falsehood and over-exaggeration??!!

Posted by: LuRenJia | Feb 5 2024 23:53 utc | 152

In fact, I believe a greater percentage of the Gypsies worldwide was killed than of Jews.
Posted by: Lysias | Feb 5 2024 22:54 utc | 129
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Entirely possible; I suspect Jews had better worldwide distribution (i.e. a greater percentage of them lived beyond the reach of the Reich [etymological pun intended]) than Roma did.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 6 2024 0:02 utc | 153

@ Pacifica Advocate 135
I too, want to know how many Jews killed by Nazis. I’m sure it was a large number, and I seriously doubt it was the magic “x” million promoted by Zionists.
A good start might be the big international conference that was held in Tehran, early in this century as I recall. I don’t have any links, but maybe other people can add something about that conference.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Feb 6 2024 0:02 utc | 154

Let’s face it, the British made a big mistake when they turned their back on Christianity and followed Roman Imperialism, and many others have made the same mistake. It’s a bad idea to project power into other people’s places.
When you’re in a hole , stop digging, Biden, Nuttyahu and BoJo. I suppose win win wasn’t invented then, but it is now. Just do it .
Stop digging.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 6 2024 0:05 utc | 155

@ LuRenJia | Feb 5 2024 23:53 utc | 152
That number is the minimum number of casualties. Something on the order of ten or twenty million people were displaced over the course of those floods, so the number of people who perished as a result of that unvarnished act of purely selfish cowardice is clearly much higher.
And yes: I do sincerely believe that Satan has set aside a particularly nasty part of Hell for CKS, who is without a doubt one of the most detestable figures one can study during the 20th C history.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 6 2024 0:11 utc | 156

@ juliania | Feb 5 2024 23:28 utc | 140
i don’t fully understand that juliania, but your comment @ 149 helped some.. i have always thought money is the root of evil and is used to manipulate.. but i am not knowledgeable about usa politics, as i am a canuck… it is bad enough i don’t know much about canuck politics other then it is mostly rotten to the core.
@ Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 23:52 utc | 151
maybe hillberg and weisel were wanting something more revisionist or made up and hannah arendts just didn’t cut it as it was more factual? the book shows how zionists worked with the nazi regime and were a big part of the problem – or at least that is how arendt portrayed it in her book..

Posted by: james | Feb 6 2024 0:14 utc | 157

Just now making the news rounds and happened upon this RT report, “Moscow slams ‘provocative and unacceptable’ remarks by Israeli envoy: An interview with Israeli envoy Simona Halperin has received an ill reception, prompting a response from the Foreign Ministry:”

The Russian Foreign Ministry on Monday released a large statement condemning fresh remarks made by Israeli Ambassador to the country, Simona Halperin, as “provocative and unacceptable.”
The explosive interview with the envoy, published by Russian daily Kommmersant on Sunday, was slammed by the ministry as twisting both “historic realities and foreign policy approaches of our country.” Namely, the ministry called out Halperin for criticizing Russia for not having the international Holocaust memorial day on its official holiday list, as she pledged to discuss the issue with the country’s diplomats.
Russia, in fact, is among the countries that floated the idea of establishing the international memorial day at the UN back in 2005 in the first place, the ministry noted. Apart from that, the country actually has a whole memorial week dedicated to the remembrance of the Holocaust victims, it said.
The ministry also called out Halperin for describing the Holocaust as an unprecedented mass-killing event that targeted “only the Jewish people.” According to multiple cornerstone international documents, including several UN Security Council resolutions, such a take on the Holocaust was not exactly accurate, the ministry suggested.
“It is important once again to draw attention to the fact that the Holocaust was the persecution and mass extermination of representatives of various ethnic and social groups by the Nazis. This is exactly how it is recorded in the most important international documents,” the ministry emphasized.
Russian diplomats have also described as “puzzling” Halperin’s take on the country’s effort to ease the situation in the Middle East, namely the conflict between Hamas and Israel. Namely, the envoy has claimed that Russia has been hosting “Hamas members” who purportedly had been “received in Moscow, hugged, with red carpets rolled out in front of them.”
“We cannot understand this. In Russia, they say that they are conducting these negotiations to free the hostages. But soon it’ll be four months as people are held hostage and they haven’t been released,” the diplomat asserted.
The Russian ministry, however, advised Halperin to “reach relatives of former hostages for further explanation” on why exactly Moscow has been maintaining contact with the political wing of the Palestinian group.
“It would be useful for the Israeli diplomat to learn firsthand what it was like for them to be held captive for almost two months and whether their release was worth our contacts with Hamas. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to talk to the relatives of Russian citizens still held in Gaza either,” it said, adding that Halperin should have better inquired with her own government why exactly the hostages still remain at the hands of Hamas.

Two days prior to the interview, Halperin met with Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Vershinin in what the MFA’s press memo seems a very routine meeting:

A detailed exchange of views took place on topical issues of mutual interest on the international and regional agendas under consideration by the UN Security Council and the UN General Assembly. Given the ongoing unprecedented escalation of violence in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict zone, special attention was paid to the current situation in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.
The Russian side reaffirmed the need for an urgent ceasefire, ensuring safe and unhindered humanitarian access to all victims and those in need, as well as the fact that there is no alternative to a political solution to the Palestinian problem on a universally recognised international legal basis with a two-state solution as the central element. It was noted that the terrorist attack on the civilian population of Israel on October 7, 2023 deserves every condemnation, but it cannot and should not become a pretext for the collective punishment of millions of Palestinians with growing threats of regional destabilization.

Unfortunately, as usual, RT doesn’t link to the interview with Kommmersant, which was easy enough to find this time, and is in Russian. A brief scan of the interview tells me Ms. Halperin is in need of some history lessons and some book reading, and it would be interesting to know if like those from the Outlaw US Empire she’s just a political hack with little prior experience.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 6 2024 0:14 utc | 158

@ LuRenJia:
And don’t get me started on CKS’s repeated and utterly sinister betrayals of the generals and Allies he claimed to “command”. That man was utter scum who was not so much “defeated” byMao as he was defeated by his own incompetence and shameless cowardice.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 6 2024 0:17 utc | 159

Should’ve bolded these two paragraphs:
The ministry also called out Halperin for describing the Holocaust as an unprecedented mass-killing event that targeted “only the Jewish people.” According to multiple cornerstone international documents, including several UN Security Council resolutions, such a take on the Holocaust was not exactly accurate, the ministry suggested.
It is important once again to draw attention to the fact that the Holocaust was the persecution and mass extermination of representatives of various ethnic and social groups by the Nazis. This is exactly how it is recorded in the most important international documents,” the ministry emphasized.
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There, that’s better.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 6 2024 0:19 utc | 160

@ james | Feb 6 2024 0:14 utc | 157
Cockburn up there seems to think that Hilberg considered Wiesel’s output as pure fiction with little in it that was genuinely lived. Cockburn himself calls Wiesel an outright fraud. I read Hilberg’s criticism of Arendt and I think he felt she embellished much of her work and didn’t follow through in the research as thoroughly as she claimed. For instance, IIRC, Arendt never even stuck around to the end of Eichmann’s trial, and left it even before Eichmann could present his defense.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 6 2024 0:28 utc | 161

Another RT reports on the Most Radical Zealot within the Zionist Cabinet: “Israel’s national security minister backs Trump over Biden: Itamar Ben-Gvir has accused US President Biden of not giving Israel enough freedom to fight Hamas.” Didn’t give enough bombs, additional aircraft, money, or other support for the Genocide?!? Maybe should have provided B-52s and helped carpet bomb Gaza since Biden did almost everything else. And what does that say about Trump? That he’s more of a Genocidalist than Biden?!? Here’s the citation that shows Ben-Gvir worthy of the gallows:
“Instead of giving us his full backing, Biden is busy with giving humanitarian aid and fuel (to Gaza), which goes to Hamas,” Ben-Gvir told the Wall Street Journal on Sunday. “If Trump was in power, the US conduct would be completely different.”

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 6 2024 0:29 utc | 162

@ karlof1:
I flipped over to see what Simone looks like in the flesh. A couple of layers of brightly colored clown makeup would be an improvement.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 6 2024 0:31 utc | 163

Caitlin Johnson:
So it turns out the IDF has been running a Telegram channel featuring homemade snuff films in which Gazans are brutally murdered by Israeli forces, captioned with celebrations of the gore and pain therein like “Burning their mother… You won’t believe the video we got! You can hear their bones crunch.” The IDF had previously denied any association with the channel, but Haaretz now reports that it was directly run by an IDF psychological warfare unit.
This is one of those many, many times where Israel is so awful that at first you’re not sure what you’re looking at. You think you must be misreading the report. Then you read it again and go “Oh wow, that’s SO much worse than I would have guessed.”
However bad you think Israel is, you can always be sure that information will come out later that proves it’s even worse.

Posted by: Organic | Feb 6 2024 0:37 utc | 164

@Karlof1 and Cynic re Palestine State, your points are taken, the fear of ‘rewarding’ Hamas is great and possibly overwhelming. However the Brits appear to be on board, and if the general assembly of the UN passes a vote in favor there is a chance. The golden horde is taking a reputational beating worldwide from the unfolding ukraine debacle, and the support by the public in the US for Palestine has surprised the neo cons. I remain optimistic. Does Israel want to remain an apartheid state with 6 million Palestinians disenfranchised? The current racists in charge there think so. Then that will be eventually their doom, having been kicked out of the region twice before historically.

Posted by: Oh | Feb 6 2024 0:38 utc | 165

“..Money is NOT speech. My definition of speech is “words outspoken.” That definition can be paired with “money:the source of all evil”. As far as I can remembert, money has NEVER been associated with speech until by a slight of hand the US Supreme Court made it so in the ineptly named “Citizens United” case. Your question above: what does that tell us?(which I know has many answers) goes right back to this as its source, just as the problem with elections goes right back to it as well. That is, the United States of America’s Supreme Court.
..”
Posted by: juliania | Feb 5 2024 23:28 utc | 140
I’m not particularly interested in the arcanery of the US Supreme Court, but the biblical quote is “love of money is the root of all evil” and nothing loves money more than “X% return on capital” capitalism.

Posted by: Ново З | Feb 6 2024 0:53 utc | 166

re: NoName | Feb 5 2024 22:29 utc | 121
Thanks for the link to the article Nicaragua taking Germany, Canada, UK, Netherlands to ICJ for genocide
Anyone know why the U.S. was not also named as a defendant in this case?

Posted by: Perimetr | Feb 6 2024 0:55 utc | 167

It’s ok to talk about the Holodomor, Stalin’s excesses or Mao’s millions dead but if anyone brings up the holocaust people are holding their ears and yelling at the top of their lungs till it all goes away.
Hilberg was a jew and a paid employee of Izrael, enough said, ignore his findings. Ron Unz and Henry Makow have real guests with unshakeable info, research and actual book links that are memory-holed by the zios. The real murderers in occupied Palestine WANT you to ridicule them and ignore them. They are counting on it and it seems to me that it’s working.

Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 6 2024 0:59 utc | 168

@ Pacifica Advocate | Feb 6 2024 0:28 utc | 161
yes, i got that from the link you shared – thanks.. as for hannah and the trial of eichmann, she stated it was basically a ‘show trial’ that ben gurion insisted upon – taking place in jerusalem as well.. i could see how she would have pissed off more then a few jewish people – zionists in particular, for the run down in her book..

Posted by: james | Feb 6 2024 1:02 utc | 169

b asks why the hell would Biden present a plan that he has no means of bringing to fruition. We’ll, I guess b is German and don’t really understand Americans. When did anyone recall Americans had hyped grand plans that had come to fruition since Vietnam? Kennedy’s moon project is now known as Hollywood stuff. High speed trains and tracks are now rusting in California. New age commercial (and military too) planes are dropping from the skies. Just naming a few. The one that brought them some fleeting glories, the breakup of USSR wasn’t their plan and thus surprised the hell out of them. Yeah! Them grand American Plans executed by third rate managers such as Bushes, Slick Willies, brownnosed Hussein, street pun Trump, and now demented Brandon!
But Brandon will likely achieve what he wants; the hype around that Plan would make him look like a true Jew lover. Look is all that counts in America. All American politicians know that; that’s why Brandon would float such a plan. Jew lovers are loved by Jews and Christian Zionists. This plan makes Brandon looks like the true Israeli champ. Hallelujah for him. Trump appears to have been trumped.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Feb 6 2024 1:07 utc | 170

Megatron
@Megatron_ron
BREAKING:
⚡ 🇯🇵🇮🇱 Japanese companies started canceling cooperation with Israeli ones
Reuters reports that the Japanese company “Itochu” has terminated its collaboration with the Israeli defense company “Elbit” following the International Court of Justice’s decision regarding the Israeli genocide in Gaza.
https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1754603049090208154

Posted by: Menz | Feb 6 2024 1:22 utc | 171

@ Organic | Feb 6 2024 0:37 utc | 164
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”
It’s the Word of God, dontcha know.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 6 2024 1:23 utc | 172

Sam Husseini
@samhusseini
It’s pathetic how these “progressive” pundits say the US gov “had to respond” violently to the killing of US soldiers, but would never say Hamas “had to respond” to endless Israeli slaughter of Palestinians.
https://twitter.com/samhusseini/status/1754543650325856437

Posted by: Menz | Feb 6 2024 1:23 utc | 173

Deeda Weeda aka DMAN 🇵🇸
@DeemTheDreem
Everyone with the last name Al-Astal has been murdered by Israel in Gaza. Israel killed all 88 members of the Al-Astal family, including the children. They don’t exist in the registry anymore.
https://twitter.com/DeemTheDreem/status/1753416067966263659

Posted by: Menz | Feb 6 2024 1:24 utc | 174

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Feb 5 2024 18:35 utc | 47
“The Likud plan is clear however, especially since the IDF has been decisively defeated in the asymmetrical warfare in Gaza, and that plan is : invade southern Lebanon, continue to bomb Syria, and hope and pray they can draw American forces into land combat in Syria and Iran. The plan borders on insanity, but at this point the IDF is strung out and desperate….they have no hope of victory, so its all chips in time.”
I’m not sure I agree with all the details of this post, but on the whole think that it is very prescient and a worthwhile addition to the original excellent analysis by “b”.
Regardless of whether or not the Hamas attack on 22 Oct. was a LIHOP event, the inevitable Israeli response (encompassing ethnic cleansing/genocide of the Palestinians) was to provoke Hezbollah into a full scale attack on Israel which would have lead to another outpouring of sympathy and solidarity from the West for the poor “besieged” Israeli’s . IMO the idea was to cajole the US/UK into high intensity bombing of Hezbollah infrastructure to soften it up prior to the subsequent Israeli ground assault. The Israeli goals would have at least been the water resources Litani River, and a further expansion of the Zionist state. But Hezbollah were-and continue to be- restrained which has frustrated this scenario.
The attack on Tower 22 (Israeli instigated or not) has resulted in a US response, but not on Lebanese Hezbollah which is the immediate concern of Likud. They attempted to capture Southern Lebanon in 2006, but were sent off in defeat by Hezbollah. This still rankles with Israel and they want to try again. Past failures have taught them that unless the West is seriously involved there is little chance of success, so their need to get US (at least) involved. Perhaps there are a few semi-sane decision makers still left in the Pentagon, I can only hope.
At any rate I think that the Zionists have to double down on the whole situation or their “window of opportunity” will start closing. Mr. Cole is correct – the Israeli decision makers are desperate and IMO this does not bode well for the immediate future for any lessening of conflict in the ME.
Just my thoughts on this.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Feb 6 2024 1:26 utc | 175

Zlatti71
@djuric_zlatko
Multiple obituaries of female soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to appear on TikTok. – FRWL reports
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1754534648972017930

Posted by: Menz | Feb 6 2024 1:27 utc | 176

Menz @ above
Thanks for your worthwhile comments.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 6 2024 1:28 utc | 177

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 6 2024 0:14 utc | 158
Some of her background, Karl.
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Representative, The Israel Economic and Cultural Office in Taipei (ISECO)
Representative Simona Halperin heads the Israel Economics and Cultural Office in Taipei since August 2010.
She was born in Riga, Latvia in 1969, and lived in St. Petersburg (then Leningrad) until repatriating to Israel with her mother, in 1976.
She’s married to Tsafrir Halperin, and they have 5 children – three boys and two girls.
Before joining the Diplomatic Service in 1993, Representative Halperin completed her BA in Economics & business administration, and her compulsory military service (serving as the economics and budget officer in the education corps).
Simona Halperin received her MA degree in Law and Public administration (with honors) from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
With over 20 years of experience in the diplomatic service, representative Halperin has served as deputy ambassador in Kazakhstan and the Republic of Korea, as counselor to the European Parliament at the Israeli Mission to the EU, and as a director of the International Organizations and Human Rights Department at the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Representative Halperin was awarded “Excellent Employee (Excellent Team)” award – both in 1998 (at the Israeli Embassy in Korea) and in 2000 (for her part in the management of the visit to Israel of Pope John Paul the 2nd).
Representative Halperin speaks Hebrew, English, Russian and basic French.
[https://israel-taiwan.tau.ac.il/simona%5D

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 6 2024 1:50 utc | 178

Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
@jacksonhinklle
🚨🇷🇺🇺🇸 BREAKING: Tucker Carlson has left the Russian Presidential administration building after spending more than an hour inside. – Izvestia
https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1754534220372787364

Posted by: Menz | Feb 6 2024 2:07 utc | 179

Free Palestine
@WildernessWypt
·
9h
Holy shit, look at the reaction to this guy saying, “I’m Jewish, I support Palestinian human rights.”
https://twitter.com/WildernessWypt/status/1754547581353419200

Posted by: Menz | Feb 6 2024 2:15 utc | 180

@ Menz | Feb 6 2024 2:07 utc | 179 with the OT Tucker latest….thanks but if only an hour then not much
Back to ME
The Cradle has a posting up about Iraq not being happy about being forced to have all their finance be in US dollars and are barking about it
The link
https://thecradle.co/articles/iraq-bans-several-commercial-banks-from-us-dollar-dealings
The quote

The Finance Committee in the Iraqi parliament made a statement on 31 January calling for the sale of oil in currencies other than the US dollar, aiming to counter US sanctions on the Iraqi banking system.
“The US Treasury still uses the pretext of money laundering to impose sanctions on Iraqi banks. This requires a national stance to put an end to these arbitrary decisions,” the statement said.
The US exercises significant control over the Iraqi financial system. Due to US sanctions, Baghdad has struggled to pay hefty energy debts owed to Iran. Additionally, Iraqi oil revenues are transferred to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Baghdad requires US permission to access these funds.
The Iraqi government has recently expressed hope in moving towards de-dollarization.

If/when the US is kicked out of Iraq, dedollarization will happen immediately as the dominoes fall

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 6 2024 2:19 utc | 181

by Perimetr | Feb 6 2024 0:55 utc | 167
The USA gets there when Russia and China collect enough proper evidence. Those two can put a weight behind it.
And it is not over yet, so evidence piles up everyday.
I also think that involuntary genocide of Ukrainians on behalf of the USA should count in.

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 6 2024 2:19 utc | 182

Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis
@DrLoupis
ISRAELI TERRORISTS HAVE KIDNAPPED AND ARE TORTURING @UNRWA
WORKERS! 🚨🚨🚨
https://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/1754573629323419812

Posted by: Menz | Feb 6 2024 2:20 utc | 183

Biden’s talk is all about getting re-elected. He hasn’t changed his foreign policy. This is a catastrophe with the youth vote and perhaps even more so with the Muslim vote. That may not be a huge number of people nationwide but it is absolutely enough to cost him at least Michigan. Clinton lost MI in 2016 by 10,000 votes. Dearborn by itself could swing the state against him.
The whole admin is now just in a reactive doom loop on every issue. They don’t have real ideas, there is no plan that’s really longer than “get through to tomorrow”. They’re not serious people but the situation is as serious as it gets.

Posted by: Lex | Feb 6 2024 2:24 utc | 184

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 22:46 utc | 127
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I know all that.
I speak German and I edit books.
I lived in Germany for quite a long time.
There is a big difference IMO between valid revisionist history, which has been quashed and demonized (revision of numbers from 6m to 5.5m, etc. not to mention different interpretations of the causes of WW2, and many other aspects of the history of WW2) and theories and so-called research of what I call the crematoria crowd. Those who think they have found a factoid or technical problem that invalidates all of the history of the Nazi genocide of the Jews (I try to avoid the H-word, which IMO is more or less a PR creation).
I can’t be bothered to do the rundown again of very basic aspects of the history that the crematoria crowd do not grasp.
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Does anyone notice how the topic is no longer about all the Jews in the State Department committing genocide but about Holocaust denial?
Posted by: Turk 152 | Feb 5 2024 23:06 utc | 133
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Yup.
OT, IMO.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 6 2024 2:26 utc | 185

@Organic | Feb 6 2024 0:37 utc | 164

the IDF has been running a Telegram channel featuring homemade snuff films in which Gazans are brutally murdered by Israeli forces, captioned with celebrations of the gore and pain therein like “Burning their mother… You won’t believe the video we got! You can hear their bones crunch

Yeah, Jews are very tough when they are tough. You can read all about their genocides in the Old Testament, then they tried to wipe out all the Greeks on some island or other and caused nonsense in Cairo. There is a definite pattern of Jews killing others horrendously out there. However, for most of their history the Jews have been trying to keep things quiet as they were under the thumb of everyone else, until such time as they could do their genocides again.
But this time round things are different, this time round the whole world knows what is happening, and thanks to the internet the world is not going to forget. There is not going to be a quiet period of a few hundred years again for everyone to forget about the Jews objectives again while the Jews accumulate power again. Only a global catastrophe like WW3 or a near extinction level comet strike can let the Jews off the hook this time.

Posted by: gT | Feb 6 2024 2:44 utc | 186

The Hutis’ blockaid is key to peace. When the instability in the Red Sea eats into corporate profits and maritime insurance is cancelled, the corporate donors will demand a ceasefire and their bribed bought and blackmailed politicians will negotiate peace

Posted by: Willow | Feb 6 2024 2:56 utc | 187

The Hutis’ blockaid is key to peace. When the instability in the Red Sea eats into corporate profits and maritime insurance is cancelled, the corporate donors will demand a ceasefire and their bribed bought and blackmailed politicians will negotiate peace
Posted by: Willow | Feb 6 2024 2:56 utc | 187
I’m afraid it doesn’t work that way. At least, not yet.
Here in Germany, TV has taken up anti-Huthi propaganda again.
We must destroy the Huthi who hold the most densenly populated parts of Yemen hostage.
They haven’t done that since the time they cheered on the Saudi war on Yemen.

Posted by: Martina | Feb 6 2024 3:02 utc | 188

Lev Davidovich | Feb 5 2024 16:30 utc | 16
The Archivist | Feb 5 2024 16:35 utc | 18
Rain | Feb 5 2024 16:50 utc | 20
james | Feb 5 2024 17:03 utc | 22
JessDTruth | Feb 5 2024 17:27 utc | 29
Jane | Feb 5 2024 17:46 utc | 33
Scotch Bingeington | Feb 5 2024 18:16 utc | 42
Mark A | Feb 5 2024 19:01 utc | 55
Turk 152 | Feb 5 2024 19:37 utc | 63
Surely it is time we called a spade a spade?
The United Zionist Jewish States of America
U.S. President Joe Biden’s Middle East envoy Zionist Orthodox Jew and Israeli Born Citizen Amos Hochstein (his Orthodox Jewish US parents had emigrated to Israel)
Of course we have a reasonable handle on how this all works, unfortunately the rest of the world and the US hoi polloi do not and continue to live in denial – despite PNAC and the GW Bush Regime, despite Zionist Jews across the US deep state apparatus – and despite all that is known of the Jewish Lobby and anti-BDS laws passed across the USA states.
FYI REFS
Hochstein was born in Israel, the child of American Jewish immigrants. He began working as a foreign policy adviser to Democratic Party members of the U.S. government House Foreign Affairs Committee from 1994 to January 2001.[13][14][15] He identifies as a Modern Orthodox Jew.[16] He is married to Julie Rae Ringel; they have four children together[17] and live in Washington D.C. His wife works for the Georgetown University Continuing Education School in the executive leadership coaching program.
there is more there ….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Hochstein
What’s Israeli to me? Amos Hochstein. To the Interior Ministry, he’s also Israeli. A Jerusalemite. If you ask the IDF, you’ll find he’s simply a tank crewman, no more and no less. But here’s the thing. After the army, Hochstein settled in the United States, and in recent years he returned to the Middle East wearing an American hat. So American, in fact, that he became “impartial.” So much so that these days he’s serving as the American broker between Israel and Lebanon on the gas agreement. Suddenly an Israeli gets up in the morning and feels he’s an American broker.
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2022-10-21/ty-article-opinion/.premium/americas-dishonest-brokers/00000183-f6b9-dd9c-af97-feff4ef50000
Israel-born US envoy to travel to Beirut to negotiate demarcation line
Hochstein, a US official with Israeli citizenship, is expected to work out a deal in Tel Aviv’s favor
On 8 February, US Special Envoy and Coordinator for International Energy Affairs Amos Hochstein will make another visit to Beirut to propose a definition for an underwater demarcation line for Lebanon and Israel.
Hochstein, an Israeli citizen and former IDF soldier from 1992 to 1995, was a lobbyist for Cassidy and Associates and vice president for Houston-based LNG energy and gas company Tellurian, Inc.
Several Lebanese laws prohibit the country’s citizens from meeting with Israeli nationals. It is unclear how and why Hochstein’s visit and meetings with Lebanese officials are exempt from these civil and military law bans.
https://thecradle.co/articles/israel-born-us-envoy-to-travel-to-beirut-to-negotiate-demarcation-line
James Carden @Antiwarcom
on US envoy to Israel Amos Hochstein: “The practice of appointing foreign nationals in sensitive positions of public trust are wildly inappropriate and lead, inevitably, to a subversion of US national interests.”
https://twitter.com/KelleyBVlahos/status/1727391940734492774
Tel Aviv’s Man in Washington
by James Carden Posted on November 22, 2023
In a city awash in foreign interests, dual citizens, and intersecting and at times conflicting loyalties, sometimes the most egregious examples are hiding in plain sight.
While largely complicit in the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ that dictates, among many other things, that we never ever mention that the Long Island-raised editor of the once venerable Atlantic magazine (and now host of Washington Week on PBS) served as an Israeli prison guard who, according to his own account, beat Palestinian prisoners under his watch, every few years legacy media awakens from its slumber and actually does its job.
The last such instance was probably in 2014 when the New York Times published a lengthy expose of the ties between DC think tanks like the Atlantic Council, CSIS, the Brookings Institution and foreign interests.
[…]
This week, it was reported that President Joe Biden, lacking an even minimally competent Secretary of State, has sent White House senior adviser Amos Hochstein for consultations with senior Israeli officials in the hope of heading off a war between Israel and Lebanon.
The choice of Hochstein for such a delicate diplomatic task ought to have raised eyebrows in Washington, not least because of the unusual background of Mr. Biden’s personal envoy.
Born and raised in Jerusalem, Amos J. Hochstein is an Israeli-US national who served in the Israeli Defense Forces in the early 1990s. After service in the IDF, he appears to have been employed briefly at a Tel Aviv PR agency before moving to Washington and commencing his ascent to the highest reaches of the US government, beginning with a staff position for Congressman Sam Gejdenson and then as Staff Director of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. According to the Lebanese news platform L’Orient, as a congressional staffer in the 1990s, Hochstein “met with an Iraqi Foreign Ministry official to discuss a plan to resettle Palestinians in Iraq in return for sanctions relief.” This background, little noted in the American press, is more than a bit germane to Hochstein’s current policy portfolio.
https://original.antiwar.com/james-carden/2023/11/21/tel-avivs-man-in-washington/
Amos Hochstein: The Israel-born diplomat mediating Lebanon-Israel maritime border negotiations
L’Orient Today / By Richard SALAME, 05 November 2021
BEIRUT — Amos Hochstein is back on the Lebanese political scene as US mediator for Lebanon-Israel maritime border negotiations, which have been stalled since an initial round of indirect talks were held in Naqoura from last year until May 2021. But while Hochstein’s appointment to the role has raised eyebrows — he was born and raised in Israel to American parents and served in the Israeli Army, according to Israeli media — the choice of an Israel-born diplomat to mediate between the two countries that are technically at war, especially one who is a veteran of the military of one of those countries, has not appeared to derail negotiations.
On Oct. 20–21 Hochstein held a series of meetings with Lebanon’s top three political leaders as well as its top general, the energy and foreign ministers, and the military officer in charge of the most recent round of talks last fall.
Earlier this month Foreign Minister Abdallah Bou Habib told local Lebanese media that the state deals with Hochstein as “an American envoy responsible to his administration, and not in his Israeli capacity.” Under normal circumstances it is illegal for an Israeli, or a non-Israeli who has been to Israel, to enter Lebanon, or for Lebanese citizens to have contact with Israelis.
https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1280583/amos-hochstein-the-israeli-born-diplomat-mediating-lebanon-israel-maritime-border-negotiations.html
Project for the New American Century – US ZIONIST JEWISH NEOCONS INCORPORATED
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
THE ISRAEL LOBBY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Foreign_Policy
Abstract
In this paper, John J. Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago’s Department of Political Science and Stephen M.Walt of Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government contend that the centerpiece of U.S. Middle East policy is its intimate relationship with Israel. The authors argue that although often justified as reflecting shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives, the U.S. commitment to Israel is due primarily to the activities of the “Israel Lobby.” This paper goes on to describe the various activities that pro-Israel groups have undertaken in order to shift U.S. foreign policy in a pro-Israel direction.
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/israel-lobby-and-us-foreign-policy
The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy: John J. Mearsheimer
2015 The University of Chicago
A panel featuring John J Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen M. Walt of Harvard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTksWA1I2UI

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 6 2024 3:10 utc | 189

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 5 2024 21:47 utc | 109
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Your concept seems to be close to Norman Finkelstein’s views and work on the Holocaust industry.
The Holocaust term and narrative are relevant most of all to Jewish Europeans and especially Jewish Americans, and that is why the genocide within Europe is the only one that matters to them. Genocides or widespread ethnic cleansing etc. in China or elsewhere are irrelevant because they serve no political/propaganda purpose on the American/Israeli/European political scene (or the cultural scene that underlies and provides a foundation for the political scene).

Posted by: Jane | Feb 6 2024 3:12 utc | 190

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/nicaragua-taking-germany–canada–uk–netherlands-to-icj-for
Slowly ever so slowly the constellation of forces are changing dramatically. This is very big news. Yamashita standard of command responsibility
The Japanese boycott is also significant. One can be sure the Japanese multi-nationals vetted their decisions with the gov’t.
The Likud needs to stop doubling down on failure PDQ

Posted by: Exile | Feb 6 2024 3:23 utc | 191

The Cradle has a posting up about the military activities in Syria with a good summary which I quote
the link
https://thecradle.co/articles/multiple-deaths-following-drone-attack-on-us-occupied-syrian-oil-field
the quote

Over the past year, Washington’s Kurdish proxy has come under continuous attacks by the IRI, the Turkish army, and local Arab tribes who have staged an uprising against SDF authorities in northeastern Syria.
Last week, an attack by the local tribes on SDF positions in Deir Ezzor left at least eight dead. Violent clashes also broke out recently between the Turkish-backed National Army militants and the SDF, following an attempted infiltration by the SDF into the villages of Jalbal and Kemar in the northern countryside of Aleppo.
The SDF helps Washington maintain control of nearly 30 percent of Syria’s territory and is an integral partner in the ongoing looting of the country’s natural resources. The Kurdish militia partnered with the US army in 2017 to take control of areas of Deir Ezzor east of the Euphrates during the race against Damascus and its Russian and Iranian allies to defeat ISIS and gain control of Syria’s major oil and wheat-producing regions.
The SDF also controls at least 20 makeshift prisons for about 10,000 ISIS militants, whom US officials have previously described as an ISIS “army in waiting” and its “next generation.”

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 6 2024 3:41 utc | 192

55,000,000 people died in WWII,
What make a few million Jews so special?
https://www.fidelitypress.org/the-holocaust-narrative

Posted by: jpb | Feb 6 2024 3:45 utc | 193

The Cradle has a posting up about reporters within CNN expressing how their reporting is twisted by management
the link
https://thecradle.co/articles/cnn-journalists-angry-at-networks-systemic-pro-israel-bias
the quote

CNN journalists say the tone of coverage is set at the top by CEO and Editor-in-Chief Mark Thompson, who was placed in his position just two days after 7 October.

In late October, after more than 2,700 Palestinian children had been killed and as Israel prepared for its ground invasion, Thompson sent a set of guidelines to CNN staff by email.
The email states that while CNN would report the human consequences of the Israeli assault on Palestinians, “we must continue always to remind our audiences of the immediate cause of this current conflict, namely the Hamas attack and mass murder and kidnap of civilians.”
CNN staff members said the memo ensured the network’s coverage would implicitly justify Israeli actions and that other context or history about the roots of the conflict long before 7 October was often unwelcome or marginalized.
“How else are editors going to read that other than as an instruction that no matter what the Israelis do, Hamas is ultimately to blame? Every action by Israel – dropping massive bombs that wipe out entire streets, its obliteration of whole families – the coverage ends up massaged to create a ‘they had it coming’ narrative,'” said one staffer.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 6 2024 3:49 utc | 194

UK channel 4 claims to have a copy of the UNRWA dossier of accusations. Says no evidence is presented in it. This should be a developing story where false narrative as per usual from the Zionists is taken as face value until weeks later a cursory investigation shows there was no basis to the claims
https://twitter.com/Majstar7/status/1754633137903071262?t=eTLEutRQBaZGbI8g_-O5Kg&s=19

Posted by: Hankster | Feb 6 2024 3:55 utc | 195

@ Organic | Feb 6 2024 0:37 utc | 164
welcome back.. long time no see.. powerful commentary from caitlin..
@ Oriental Voice | Feb 6 2024 1:07 utc | 170
well, there is that too.. it is a depressing thought in fact.. thanks..
@ Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 6 2024 3:10 utc | 189
you could call it that, but is that going to change anything at this point?

Posted by: james | Feb 6 2024 4:03 utc | 196

@ Hankster | Feb 6 2024 3:55 utc | 195
that is exactly how propaganda works and some are masters at it..

Posted by: james | Feb 6 2024 4:04 utc | 197

Anyone know why the U.S. was not also named as a defendant in this case?
Posted by: Perimetr | Feb 6 2024 0:55 utc | 167
probably because Nicaragua already knows its a waste of time –
The United States withdrew from the court’s compulsory jurisdiction in 1986 after the court ruled it owed Nicaragua war reparations. The United States also disagreed with the court’s stance that it failed to fulfill its obligations under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations in 2005 in cases involving Mexican nationals on death row. https://www.cfr.org/video/united-states-and-icj
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/walking-away-world-court
https://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1902&context=faculty_publications
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2202131

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 6 2024 4:12 utc | 198

@ Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 6 2024 3:10 utc | 189
you could call it that, but is that going to change anything at this point?
Posted by: james | Feb 6 2024 4:03 utc | 196
Question- Does the media and western politicians repeatedly saying — Iran-backed Hamas, Iran-backed Houthis, Iranian-backed Hezbollah terrorists, Russia-backed Assad, Armed Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine, Iran-backed terrorists …. is that going to change anything at this point? Patently YES, is the answer.
Yes my example is more far fetched, I agree, however …… it’s kind of true isn’t it?
So why not speak the truth to power instead of cowering under it?
I have a revision too btw
The Zionist United Jewish States of America 🙂
Feel free to through a Genocidal version yourself.

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Feb 6 2024 4:25 utc | 199

Oh | Feb 6 2024 0:38 utc | 165–
Thanks for your reply. Curious that you use the term “reward” regarding Hamas’s actions. IMO, the only people who can award Hamas anything are their fellow Palestinians.
Jane | Feb 6 2024 3:12 utc | 190–
Thanks for your reply. Yes, the basic reaction of selfish people who are often ignorant of many things, not just history as most don’t really know their own.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 6 2024 4:26 utc | 200