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February 05, 2024

In The Middle East The U.S. Has Reached The End Of Its Abilities

The Biden administration is trying everything to better the situation for the Israeli government except by withdrawing its financial and munition support which are the only two measures that could bring Israel to its senses.

There are now several small wars in the Middle East which may soon accumulate into a big one. Israel is fighting Hamas and the Islamic Jihad in Gaza. It is fighting a silent resistance in the West Bank. On its norther borders it is involved in daily clashes with Hizbullah and various Palestinian resistance groups.

Israel is also bombing Syria and killing Iranian envoys to that country. Iraqi and Syrian resistance groups are attacking U.S. bases in Syria and Iraq. The U.S. is bombing these groups for more or less therapeutic purposes while trying to not hurt them too much. In the Red Sea the Ansarullah government of Yemen is blocking sea traffic related to Israel, the U.S. and UK. The U.S. and UK are bombing Ansarullah positions even as they know that no amount of bombing will change its position.

People in other Arab countries, while seemingly calm, are enraged over Israel's genocidal behavior in Gaza. Their leaders try to keep their distances from the wars but at some point may well be forced to take sides in it.

Meanwhile the U.S., the alleged superpower, is hapless and helplessly trying to achieve results that are way beyond its abilities.

See for one example the last attempt by a U.S. envoy to prevent a further escalation with Lebanon:

US presents new blueprint to push Hezbollah away from Israeli border - Ynetnews, Feb 4 2024

U.S. President Joe Biden's Middle East envoy Amos Hochstein outlined the key elements of a political settlement to deescalate tensions between Israel and Hezbollah during his visit to the Jewish state on Sunday.

The plan consists of two phases: In the first, Hezbollah would cease hostilities actions along the border with Israel and will retreat between eight to ten kilometers north from the border.

Israeli residents will return to their homes, and a significant deployment of the Lebanese army and UNIFIL peacekeeping forces will maintain stability in southern Lebanon and along the border.

In the second phase, Israel and Lebanon will begin negotiations to demarcate the land border, including discussions on 13 points on disputes along their shared boundaries. Simultaneously, the U.S. and the international community will explore offering "economic incentives" to Lebanon.

Hochstein received the green light from the Lebanese government for his proposal, though it remains unclear whether Hezbollah agrees with the arrangement.

The envoy, who recently met with President Isaac Herzog, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and Minister Benny Gantz urged Israel to give his plan a chance.

Nice plan. But what can you do to implement it?

How in hell will the U.S. be able to make Hezbollah to cease hostilities actions along the border with Israel and to retreat between eight to ten kilometers from the border?

Hizbullah fighters at the border are living in the border towns. They were born there. They want to die there. How the f*** does the U.S. think they can be pushed out? And why would Hizbullah agree to a ceasefire when the murdering of Palestinians in Gaza continues to be the major project of Israel?

The U.S. has no means, none, to press Hizbullah into a ceasefire or to push it to retreat from the border line.

The Lebanese government supports that move? Sure, verbally, as long as you cough up some money. But Hizbullah is part of that government. It is also the superior military power in Lebanon. Neither the Lebanese army nor the U.N. forces have the ability to fight it.

Step one is thereby meaningless. Step two, a promise for negotiations between Israel and Lebanon, makes likewise no sense as Israel is notoriously unwilling to make any concessions.

If baseless fantasies like the above are all the U.S. can come up with it is truly at the end of its abilities.

A chance of  a war between Israel and Hizbullah in Lebanon is increasing daily. While there are already daily clashes these are limited by certain red lines and targets. Both sides still avoid to cross those.

But Israel's government needs a victory. Its war aims in Gaza are clearly not achievable. Losses are mounting. Its population, especially the settlers from the north who had to flee their homes, are unruly.

Alastair Crooke thinks (vid) that Israel will start a full out war with Hizbullah simply because the Israeli government needs a victory. He thinks that Netanyahoo still thinks he can achieve one. Others though have their doubts. Hizbullah today is far better equipped and trained than it had been during the 2006 war with Israel. That war ended in a draw or, as some see it, with a defeat of Israel. I know of no expert in that area who thinks that Israel today would fare any better than that.

I'd say let them try. The may well learn from it.

But why the Biden administration even thinks that it can stop such a clash by presenting plans it has no means to press for is beyond me.

Posted by b on February 5, 2024 at 15:29 UTC | Permalink

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The Biden Admin thinks in a wishful magical way, like they do in the Ukraine. There is no good solution for team Biden. Press Israel and lose Jewish campaign cash or do nothing and let Israel become a pariah State.

Posted by: John Neal Spangler | Feb 5 2024 15:42 utc | 1

The USG make up these fantasy plans because they know their media is blasting their BS to a bunch of Idiots, and it works - on a whole lot of of stupid people.

Posted by: GMC | Feb 5 2024 15:47 utc | 2

small typo: “I'd say let them try. The may well learn from it.” The -> They

Posted by: proflutz | Feb 5 2024 15:49 utc | 3

Would Hizbullah have sufficient power (sufficiently advanced missiles in quantity) and reach to degrade Israeli air power?
How many air fields do they have?
Perhaps a bunker-buster type munition would be a prerequisite.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 5 2024 15:49 utc | 4

Israel is 0/2 against Hezbollah, which is now even better armed and equipped...Hochstein (do we have any diplomats who aren't jews?) is no doubt scheming to have Hezbollah retreat and then be double crossed, but the Shiites aren't going to buy it....If Israel attacks, it will be 0/3, and Israel's very existence will be in doubt...

Posted by: pyrrhus | Feb 5 2024 15:49 utc | 5

All this "plan" would do is legitimize Israel's occupation of southern Lebanon as they won't give any of it back during "negotiations" Hezbollah would be foolish to even give this plan a second thought. As long as they have the backing of the US, Israel will never give back the Sheeba farms area of Lebanon or the Golan Heights of Syria. As many have said, the US could end this genocidal catastrophe in a heartbeat if it wanted to. But they don't want to. I'm actually ashamed of our government (and have been for awhile).

Posted by: ctiger | Feb 5 2024 16:02 utc | 6

I think its maximal idea of hegemony over everyone is beyond US power now.

This does not mean it can't exert limited hegemony over a subset of nations however. It will need hundreds of thousands more infantry to do it, but let's not kid ourselves, that's well within their power to do so.

Conveniently there's millions of military aged men coming in as illegal immigrants, many of whom are duly registered through various aid programs.

Hard to imagine a more expendable, powerless group to exploit.

Were in the midst of a generational war. It can't end until the ww2 world order is overturned. Let's not start declaring the end of this or that quite yet.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Feb 5 2024 16:03 utc | 7

Salaam-it is appalling that the occupying entity is bent on the path of genocide.There is no doubt that they are paying no notice of the ICJ requirement with regards to the slaughter of Palestinians.This can't be beneficial to Israelis nor the US or the west in general. The US politicians are beholden to the Israelis its treachery! Opening a wholesale war against Hezbollah will be the nail in the coffin of the Occupying Entity.With their present actions against the Palestinians, Israel is dead.The empire of lies and hate will get its come upperance.

Posted by: 4q8 | Feb 5 2024 16:05 utc | 8

SHBROOM! >:(
Yawn. : /
How dare you yawn at my shbroom! More shbroom at you! >:( SHBROOM! >:(
Yawn, the encore. : \
Noooo, I'm melting! >.<

"US in MENA", a tragic farce is one act. Thank you, try the veal!

Posted by: titmouse | Feb 5 2024 16:09 utc | 9

@pyrrhus, #5: correct. If ZioNAZI Rothschildistan takes on Hezbollah, the former will be toast in short order.

The same is the U.S. tries to take on Iran.

Posted by: Ernesto Che | Feb 5 2024 16:10 utc | 10

In a fantasy world, anything is possible.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 5 2024 16:13 utc | 11

Hochstein was born in Israel. Check his bio. Basically an Israeli and a colonizing settler installed in deep state.

They have no one else. Basically they have no one.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 5 2024 16:17 utc | 12

one wonders how many US politicians etc were caught in the Epstein sting with little girls and now are terrified or blackmailed into doing Israel's bidding.

Posted by: Bill R | Feb 5 2024 16:18 utc | 13

Gee... Why not move all the Zionist settlements 40KM South of the border? Why isn't that a proposal? I'm sure Hezbollah ought to have that as a negotiating ploy.

Escobar posted an excellent graphic at his Telegram, Ansarallah Parting Red Sea. The symbolism is astonishing when contemplated.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 5 2024 16:20 utc | 14

The US is trying to show it is "actively pursuing peace" as an optic for November elections. Disgusting.

Posted by: Peter b | Feb 5 2024 16:22 utc | 15

Posted by: pyrrhus | Feb 5 2024 15:49 utc | 5

Exact.

In today’s USA of “Equality, Diversity, Inclusion” with US citizens including Ivy League educated brains with family history from practically every nation on earth, Genocide Joe gets (Israeli born) “off shore gas explorer” Amos Hochstein to first meet with Netanyahu, Gallant, Smotrich, Herzog, Gallant and then try to serve up a shit sandwich to Hezbollah.

It would be laughable if it wasn’t for the 30,000 Palestinians these monsters have murdered.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Feb 5 2024 16:30 utc | 16

@ peter

https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/02/05/any-way-you-look-at-it-you-lose/

"Here it is, February 2024 and it’s as if the US’ two major parties had already held their nominating conventions. Biden vs. Trump. Two corpses of the US political system as the vaunted democracy’s choices. Reactionary neoliberalism or reactionary fascism. The key word in both phrases is reactionary."

Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 5 2024 16:32 utc | 17

Joe Biden's Middle East envoy Amos Hochstein

This piece of shit is an Atlantic Council Hitman and Terrorist Goon.

Note the date of his Tweet

Archived copy here: https://archive.is/fo7yj

BLOCKQUOTE>

amos hochstein

While we talk impeachment - this is the existential crisis facing Ukraine. Finish the Fight: A Washington-Brussels Double Play Can Still Stop Nord Stream 2

7:05 PM - 18 Nov 2019

Posted by: The Archivist | Feb 5 2024 16:35 utc | 18

No worries. FFS.

AS Israel carries on with impunity every hour the videos are compiled in the ICJ evidence journal for the South Africa v. Israel case

3 hrs ago (EST NYC Feb 05, 2024)

UN Food Convoy in Gaza Comes Under Fire From Israeli Forces - UNRWA Chief

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - A UN food convoy heading to the northern part of the Gaza Strip was shelled by Israeli warships, and no one was injured, UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) Director Thomas White said on Monday.
"Gaza this morning a food convoy waiting to move into Northern Gaza was hit by Israeli naval gunfire - thankfully no one was injured," White said on X (former Twitter).[.]

embedded within this article we find a welcome note:

Borrell Says EU Has Not Suspended Funding for UNRWA, Some Member States Increasing Support

It may take a few years for the full case to be adjudicated. Israel will cease to exist. BDS works. It will be the catalyst.

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 5 2024 16:43 utc | 19

There is also chatter of internal conflict within Netanyahu's government, and Ray McGovern on Dialogue Works made the point that even if Netanyahu fell from power, the only alternatives are worse.

Garland Nixon did an in-depth review of Amos Hochstein, worked in the Obama/Clinton Admin, then quit his job to go to Ukraine and be CEO for the gas company after the 2014 Maidan to make a lot of money, before quitting that to return in 2020 when Biden was elected. And now he is in Israel as an "envoy"?

Organising the exploitation of the undeveloped gas fields off Gaza are probably his real job, and 2 million Palestinians are just in the way.

Posted by: Rain | Feb 5 2024 16:50 utc | 20

As the palestinians in the west bank seem to do little for them, palestinians in gaza should fight for the reestablishment of Philistia from Jaffa to the Sinai.

Even Israel should agree that they were never within the israel/Judah realms.


Posted by: Newbie | Feb 5 2024 17:02 utc | 21

thanks b... it will be interesting when the conflict in the usa state dept and all the usa extensions gets out of hand.. at present everyone is towing the israeli line... it is possible the usa will continue in this manner until more shit hits the fan.. at this point the usa is totally beholden to israel..

having this fellow hochstein is yet another perfect example of just how beholden usa foreign policy is tied to israel first's interests.... sad, but until this changes - nothing is going to change.. the usa made it clear in the resolution for a cease fire back in mid october and have remained steadfast... i can't see anything changing.. biden is just a useful servant for powers far greater them him.. i wish i was wrong..

Posted by: james | Feb 5 2024 17:03 utc | 22

@ Rain | Feb 5 2024 16:50 utc | 20

thanks for that overview... they keep on putting the same rejects in power in the usa.. what does that tell us? they are always israel first rejects too..

Posted by: james | Feb 5 2024 17:04 utc | 23

Where do the palistinians in Gaza fit into this nice little proposal ?

How would this plan, tip the balence, regardig Gaza.

It would be a distraction from gaza's Continued Genicide

I shudder to think.

It would give a nod to 2000000 murders. It would clear the way for a greater israel in Lebenon.

And feed israels delusion of grandeur. When in fact they are war criminals.


Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 5 2024 17:08 utc | 24

The Biden administration doesn't "think." It does whatever its wealthy patrons pay it to do, without question, without thought of the consequences. Such as enabling a foreign invasion of the United States because their patrons want cheap labor and high rents.

Perhaps the plan is to get the United States directly involved in the war, fight Israel's battles for it, take out Iran etc. no matter the cost. Why not? It won't cost Israel anything.

Posted by: TG | Feb 5 2024 17:11 utc | 25

"People in other Arab countries, while seemingly calm, are enraged over Israel's genocidal behavior in Gaza. Their leaders try to keep their distances from the wars but at some point may well be forced to take sides in it."

If the recent allegations concerning the Saudis are to be believed, the Gulfies are waiting for all this to blow over so they can get back to cozying up with Israel and earning brownie points from the US.

So far, not a single Abraham Accord country has cut ties with Israel.

The Houthis, by contrast, have no megarich leaders to sanction, those leaders have western assets that they want to protect, the Houthis and their leaders aren't seeking western toys to play with, and consequently, they have no fucks to give.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Feb 5 2024 17:19 utc | 26

Thanks for the report b. Very well written.

Move 10K north? That would mean to move away from tunnels in southern Lebanon, that make the Gaza tunnels like child’s play. Eight lane highways as opposed to dirt roads. Hezbollah would never agree to dis-entrenchment (I like the way I made up that term). It was built for this moment, and it will be used now. Nothing the empire or the entity can do about it.

How far away from reality can the empire get?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 5 2024 17:22 utc | 27

"People in other Arab countries, while seemingly calm, are enraged over Israel's genocidal behavior in Gaza. Their leaders try to keep their distances from the wars but at some point may well be forced to take sides in it."

This is the most important issue. And to date, it has been Israel's/US's biggest victory, keeping the Arab populaces utter quiescent.

Posted by: Bob | Feb 5 2024 17:25 utc | 28

Amos Hochstein is corrupt and specializes in the empire's control of energy. He resigned his senior State Deaprtment job in Oct. 2015 to go stuff his pockets at Naftogaz. Garland Nixon exposed this scumbag who has Israeli citizenship IIRC. It's not worth 54 minutes, but at 1.75 x normal speed, you might find parts of it worthwhile.

BIDEN LAUNCHES FAKE ATTACT (sic) + US MEDIATOR AMOS HOCHSTEIN IS A CROOK

Takedown of Amos Hochstein

But wait ... there's more, lots more.

Garland Nixon's previous video is the most useful thing I've seen in weeks. His guest was Joti Brar, vice-chair of the British Communist Party M-L. Highlights:

1:07:00 What makes the Gaza genocide different from the previous 75 years of Israeli genocide, is that now a lot of the world is watching. Brar said, "Now people are not going 'Oh dear,' and turning it off." Yes, there is a real clamp down on social media, but people can find the truth on social media. She talked up Telegram channels. Garland Nixon pointed out that genocides are an everyday occurrence in imperialism, with horrific numbers. That the Jews try to pretend the Holocaust was a unique one-off, when in fact it was only one of a great many, and far from the largest. This is a logical attack on the holocaust industry I hadn't seen before.

20:30 Europe's elite is inextricably tied to the Americans. They all owe their living standards to the extraction of wealth from the Global South. European elites can’t go it alone; they need US power to help them continue to dominate the “former” colonies. “If the USA is going down, they are all going down.” European capitalists below the highest elites are “being sent to the wall” such as German industries.

52:00 A dispassionate view on how Trump fits into the scheme of things and why the Deep State loathes him. This billionaire thinks his money is enough to get him into the White House. “He hasn’t been bought by any of the big monopolies. He’s not a professional front man for the system like, say, Obama.” ... But he doesn't have the Deep State mindset and he could go "off reservation" by making peace, as he tried with North Korea. His four years as President showed the citizens that the Deep State can - and does - run circles around whoever is president. The only way Trump represents hope is that (1.) Trump is a disrupter, and (2.) the ruling elite could screw up trying to hobble Trump. People got the lesson from the 96 suits against Trump: Lawfare is for real and the law only serves the big people.

Garland Nixon, during the Trump discussion: "What matters is not what happens to you; what matters is how you react to it."

28:00 The elites do NGO-ization of natural leaders who then carry a clipboard and keep the machine going – instead of talking about struggle of any sort. Velvet decapitation.

32:30 That bourgeois feminism only cares about rights within the framework of capitalist hierarchies.

Garland Nixon and Joti Brar

Enjoy.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Feb 5 2024 17:27 utc | 29

Escobar posted an excellent graphic at his Telegram, Ansarallah Parting Red Sea. The symbolism is astonishing when contemplated.
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 5 2024 16:20 utc | 14

Thanks Karl. The caption in Farsi reads: The miracle is in our hands.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 5 2024 17:29 utc | 30

Re: How the f***

President Joe Biden reportedly called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a "bad f**king guy" amid tensions between the two leaders over the ongoing Israel-Hamas war

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 5 2024 17:30 utc | 31

@Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 5 2024 17:29 utc | 33

Thanks Karl. The caption in Farsi reads: The miracle is in our hands.
Thank you for the translation. Very powerful.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 5 2024 17:43 utc | 32

Amos Hochstein sounds like a kindergartener playing diplomat.
Why in the world would Hizbollah have any motivation whatsoever to give Hochstein/Israel/Biden what they wish for?

(And BTW, Why does the USA send a Jewish envoy to the region?)

Why would Lebanon make an agreement with the Oslo Accord folks?

With the "agreement-incapable" USA?

And the USA wants to drag UNIFIL peacekeeping forces into Lebanon/northern Israel? Why not use its clout (?) with arranging peacekeeping forces to send the same to Gaza and STOP THE GENOCIDE????

It sure looks to this kindergartener as though the USA wants to make deals with Lebanon because it is obvious that it cannot control the real bully in the sandbox, Netanyahu and Israel.

If were Lebanon I would say: We will consider your plan, but FIRST, you halt, today, all military aid to Israel.
Then we might talk to you about your plan.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 5 2024 17:46 utc | 33

The US is starting to look like Army Group A wandering around aimlessly in the Caucasus in early 1943. A spent force without a mission.

Posted by: William Verick | Feb 5 2024 17:49 utc | 34

Instead of Hezbollah having to retreat 8-10 kilometers from the border and UN troops move in, why doesn’t the IDF have to retreat 8-10 kilometers and have UN troops be deployed on the Israeli side of the border? I mean, if it’s such a great offer to Hezbollah, why doesn’t Israel implement it instead? 🤔

It’s because the offer is one sided . Neither Israel nor Hezbollah will accept it.

Posted by: TimmyB | Feb 5 2024 17:50 utc | 35

FeralFinster@25

I agree. I don't support Israel's genocide of Palestinians, but this is a problem that should be solved by their fellow muslims if said muslims actually care at all about Palestinians. Let Iran and all of them sort it out. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over this. The whole event was just a nice reminder of how evil the Zionists are and how underhanded, cowardly, and conniving Israel is.

Posted by: ABOBA | Feb 5 2024 17:53 utc | 36

Gaza for the Oil, Golan and Lebanon for freshwater : they want everything !
Poor Joe, the brat is spoiled to the last extend, he might need a rehab but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmZp8pR1uc

Posted by: Savonarole | Feb 5 2024 17:54 utc | 37

'President' Biden's peace proposals are an admission that Israel has lost. They failed to conquer Gaza and they have failed even worse against Hamas. Continuing will only lead to worse outcomes for Israel, and continuing also has increased likelihood that Hezbollah will come in which would ring some death bells for this US 'carrier of the Middle East'.

Israel armed forces are not very large after all and they have lost serious amount of tanks already.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 5 2024 17:56 utc | 38

30,000 settlers left on 172 flights yesterday. Hezbollah can take the zionists back to the stone age and they know it.

Posted by: liveload | Feb 5 2024 18:06 utc | 39

Disturbed by the thought of just how many humblings the Apartheid State is going to have to get to stop the genocide. If they didn't have nukes, I'd grab the popcorn happily, because the hits will keep coming. I worry just how nuts they are willing to get as the fails pile up.

Posted by: muttman | Feb 5 2024 18:06 utc | 40

"The Biden administration is trying everything to better the situation for the Israeli government except by withdrawing its financial and munition support which are the only two measures that could bring Israel to its senses."
"b"

Truer words have never been spoken. You won't find analysis as succinct and balanced anywhere else on the web.
If I have one caveat it is that both the Empire and its miniature pit bull in West Asia (the sickest puppy ever known) still have the capacity both to wreak havoc among civilians and to delude themselves that doing so is OK.

JessDTruth | Feb 5 2024 17:27 utc | 30
You are right. So was Garland Nixon- Holocausts are part of imperialism and that in Poland was by no means the largest, even of the period.
What made it unique was the careful industrialisation of the process of killing when the maximum amount of surplus value- carefully calculated by experts on diet and health- had been extracted.
In the end we are all useless eaters. What surprises me and perhaps I am just ignorant of the matter, was that the Blood and Soil compost enthusiasts did not work out a way of returning all that decaying flesh and crumbling bone to the soil, as enrichment.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 5 2024 18:14 utc | 41

"Middle East envoy Amos Hochstein"

What a disgusting joke!

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Feb 5 2024 18:16 utc | 42

Escobar posted an excellent graphic at his Telegram, Ansarallah Parting Red Sea. The symbolism is astonishing when contemplated.
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 5 2024 16:20 utc | 14

Thanks Karl. The caption in Farsi reads: The miracle is in our hands.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 5 2024 17:29 utc | 33

Alternate caption:

Moses isn't the only one to part the Red Sea.

Posted by: N Hanrahan | Feb 5 2024 18:17 utc | 43

Posted by b on February 5, 2024 at 15:29 UTC | Permalink

...But why the Biden administration even thinks that it can stop such a clash by presenting plans it has no means to press for is beyond me.

Why assume the US wishes to restrain Israel on the Lebanese front? For the well being of the people of Lebanon? Does anyone here believe humanitarian values are what best characterize American foreign policy? US history, going back to, well forever, suggests otherwise.

Looks more like diplomacy in bad faith. "Diplomacy", if you prefer. Asking Hezbollah to retreat 8km without asking the IDF to do the same suggests there is in fact a real wish to push this conflict further.

...I'd say let them try. The may well learn from it...

I find this to be in poor taste. If the ongoing Gaza onslaught taught them anything, it's that they can get away with wholesale slaughter and industrial scale destruction of urban centres.

Posted by: robin | Feb 5 2024 18:23 utc | 44

Netanyahu has made no progress on destroying the resistance forces in Gaza but rather increasing his genocidal tactics and crimes against humanity. Netanyahu can not defeat Hamas, ever and he will never suceed in relinqueshing the power away from Hezbollah. What Netanyahu is doing prolonging his political career before he ends up in prison behind bars for life.

Posted by: AI | Feb 5 2024 18:29 utc | 45

By b:

"But Israel's government needs a victory. Its war aims in Gaza are clearly not achievable. Losses are mounting. Its population, especially the settlers from the north who had to flee their homes, are unruly."

Lets change this a bit:

"But Ukraine's government needs a victory. Its war aims in Ukraine are clearly not achievable. Losses are mounting. Its population are unruly."

"needs a victory" = US government will continue to do the same thing it's been doing, over and over again i.e., send $$$ and bombs.

I hope that at some point, a genius inside the Washington beltway will stumble on the idea that doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is called insanity

Posted by: fuddman | Feb 5 2024 18:32 utc | 46

As Lind stated in his excellent article on 4th generation warfare in Iraq and Afghan in 2004......the nation states will be fighting against non stat actors.....

Today in the ME, we see the US and the UK and the IDF fighting multiple non state actors at the same time, and doing very poorly at it I might add.

At present we see the ME big three fighting Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and various Iraqi and Irainian sub groups. We witness the Houthis actually having a massive impact on world trade in their effort to support and defend Gaza....truly an amazing accomplishment, taking on the most powerful navy in the world, and winning substantial victories at sea.

We also see Secretary Toni Blinkin yet against flying into the ME to "mediate" the ongoing crisis in numerous capitals.....but we all know or should know by now, his mediation has zero chance of achieving success, because while the ongoing IDF genocide in Gaza continues, no "mediation" is possible. No Arab nation will possibly risk siding with an American peace plan unless it includes the immediate cessation of hostilities, accelerated delivery of humanitarian supplies to Gaza citizens, rebuilding of damaged homes and infrastructure, and the establishment of viable independent Palestinian state based on the partition agreement of 1948-49.

Does anyone really see that happening without a hammer dropping on Bibi and Likud coalition, a hammer swung by the US government?

Of course not! The US government is paralyzed, it can not abandon the IDF, and it can not make any headway with the Arab states either. Its a collosal gridlock.

The Likud plan is clear however, especially since the IDF has been decisively defeated in the asymmetrical warfare in Gaza, and that plan is : invade southern Lebanon, continue to bomb Syria, and hope and pray they can draw American forces into land combat in Syria and Iran. The plan borders on insanity, but at this point the IDF is strung out and desperate....they have no hope of victory, so its all chips in time.

The next month will be a time of extreme danger for world peace.......the IDF is now completely exposed for world to see, and has no real hope of victory.....they need a way out ! What that way out is we don't know...but it will be ugly....only the US can stop this madness, but will they?

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Feb 5 2024 18:35 utc | 47


NATO is attacking the Syrian and Iraq governments, the west is trying to take out the last few countries they don’t control. Lebanon is in a dispute with Israel over the gas deposits in the sea, they will be attacked if they don’t bow down.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/3/us-warns-of-more-retaliatory-strikes-as-it-hits-iraq-syria-amid-gaza-war

Civilians were among those killed and 25 people were wounded in the bombings that targeted both civilian and security areas, a government spokesperson said on Saturday.
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https://www.voanews.com/a/iraq-syria-along-with-iran-russia-condemn-us-strikes/7470102.html

Syrian Foreign Minister Faisal al-Miqdad said in a statement the U.S. attacks "will seriously increase tensions in the region." Syrian state TV quoted the Syrian defense ministry, which claimed the U.S. "attacked Syrian government forces which are fighting the Islamic State terrorist group," alleging the U.S. is trying to help the terrorists "regroup."

Posted by: OohCanada | Feb 5 2024 18:37 utc | 48

US pornography actor accused of posting propaganda for Iran

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 5 2024 18:26 utc | 45

Yep, and now she has the nerve to deny it:

"Wright hit back at the criticism of her images from her trip – which now appear to have been removed – by asking: “Posting photos of my Iran trip now means I’m pushing Iran propaganda?”

“Just sharing what I saw on the inside and outside.”


What if she had been spying for the US in Iran? Would make more sense.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 5 2024 18:37 utc | 49

@ Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 5 2024 18:26 utc | 53

Maybe that’s in response to the antics of one “Michael Lucas,” a gay porn actor/director who recently bragged about signing a missile subsequently fired at Gaza.

“Lucas” is a Jewish émigré from Russia and, if you look at a photo of him (the Wikipedia page has one that’s PG-rated), you’ll see that his looks are just as hideous. No accounting for tastes, I guess.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 18:40 utc | 50

Posted by: bevin | Feb 5 2024 18:14 utc | 41

I'm not a denier by any stretch of the imagination, but I find the 6m number really hard to swallow. Were there even that many jews living in Europe prior to 1932?
Too bad the Germans were lax on details and lousy at keeping records.....

Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 5 2024 18:41 utc | 51

I hope that at some point, a genius inside the Washington beltway will stumble on the idea that doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is called insanity

Posted by: fuddman | Feb 5 2024 18:32 utc | 47

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It’s also called riding the gravy train, which will keep chugging along…until it no longer can.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 18:44 utc | 52

Too bad the Germans were lax on details and lousy at keeping records.....

Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 5 2024 18:41 utc | 51

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Actually they were pretty bad at it—or better, scrupulous at times, sloppy at others.

It’s also a myth that the Germans were ever good at keeping the trains running on time.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 18:48 utc | 53

"Conveniently there's millions of military aged men coming in as illegal immigrants, many of whom are duly registered through various aid programs.

Hard to imagine a more expendable, powerless group to exploit.

Were in the midst of a generational war. It can't end until the ww2 world order is overturned. Let's not start declaring the end of this or that quite yet."

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Feb 5 2024 16:03 utc | 7

Interesting analysis, never thought of that angle-I had just thought of them as 'useless voters' for the Dems...

Posted by: canuck | Feb 5 2024 18:56 utc | 54

It’s not really a surprise that Biden employs an Israeli - Amos Hochstein - as his Middle East envoy, the one who refers to Shias as creatures and the rest he’ll see as US subjects including the political leaders he ‘negotiates’ with.
His plan will get nowhere and nor will Israel against Hezbollah and the rest unless he gets lots and lots of US missiles and help from America, even then who knows, so it’s up to Biden. It’s all on him and the Pentagon. .
We’ll see how it turns out, as long as there’s chaos it suits Israel, they couldn’t care less as long as they’re killing Arabs and anybody else who doesn’t agree with them, even Jews.

Posted by: Mark A | Feb 5 2024 19:01 utc | 55

How is the war in Gaza continuing?

For me, the situation around Palestine looks like a chessboard and all the figures are in place. I have desrcibed below the situation of every figure in a concise way. What are the next moves and how does it turn out? Possibly the barflies can look in their cristal balls and tell us what will happen.

The facts

Netanyahu cannot end the war because otherwise he will face prosecution for previous crimes

The Israeli settlers will not agree to a two-state solution.

Neither do the right-wing parties or the Israeli population.

The Palestinian Authority in the West Bank has little popular support. They tend to trust Hamas.

Hamas will not agree to a solution with a West Bank fragmented by settlements.

Hostages and ceasefire

Hamas wants a permanent ceasefire and to exchange all Palestinian prisoners for all hostages.

At most, Israel wants a short ceasefire, all hostages free, only a few prisoners released, and then continue fighting

The Israeli government hardly cares about the hostages. She wants to destroy all of Hamas first.

Hamas apparently cannot be defeated. There will always be pockets of resistance.

There is increasing pressure from the Israeli population to release the hostages. >> The pressure on Netanyahu to release the hostages is growing

The right-wing parties are threatening to break the coalition if high-ranking Palestinians are released. >> This would mean that Netanyahu would be out of the government and subject to prosecution.

Hezbollah and Lebanon

Because the expected successes in the Gaza Strip are not being achieved, there are tendencies in Israel to take action against Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is highly armed and cannot be defeated by Israel. It could even harm Israel and make other areas uninhabitable or even conquer them.
The USA could support Israel in the fight against Hezbollah, but could not defeat it.

Hamas is mobile, has over 100,000 rockets and, like Gaza, a large tunnel system.

Bombing Beirut, as has happened before, would not affect the war, but would generate international opposition.

The Houthis and the Islamic resistance groups in Iraq and Syria.

The Houthis cannot be defeated because they are highly mobile in a rugged country and have eight years of fighting experience against Saudi Arabia.

The same applies to the Islamic resistance groups in the Middle East.
The US and British ships in the Red Sea cannot protect shipping and are easy targets for drones and missiles.

To combat the Houthis' cheap rockets and drones, expensive defensive projectiles have to be used, which are only available in sufficient quantities. There is no defense for hypersonic weapons.

US bases in the Middle East remain vulnerable despite the bombing of resistance groups.

The Arab and Muslim states do not want to become involved in hostilities in order to avoid losses and to avoid destroying relations with the West.

However, the populations of these states are pro-Palestinian and are pushing for intervention.

Although the US and the West support Israel, they are afraid that the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip will reflect negatively on them and are trying to scale back.

Posted by: Johann von Oberndorf | Feb 5 2024 19:02 utc | 56

Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 5 2024 17:29 utc | 30--

Yes indeed! Thanks for your reply and translation.

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The entire Crooke Napolitano chat reveals the Zionist's and thus Imperialism's West Asian dilemma--there's no way for it to win or lose and survive: The Zionist Project was Cancelled by Hamas on 7 October, but the Zionists and their supporters can't accept that vital fact. The problem for the world is over a million fanatical Zionists will now resettle elsewhere and they will never become peaceful citizens wherever they land. IMO, it will take at least a century for Zionism and its kin Nazism to finally die as ideological goals--that's 5 Generations. Yes, and that might not even be long enough as some Neverenders will likely live on--and of course their history and books will continue to exist.

The essential takeaway IMO from the chat is the realistic (im)possibility of any solution that allows any form of Zionism to remain in Palestine. Hypothetically, a Two-State Solution is possible but would require a great degree of force to manufacture as the fanatics would all need to be removed, and not just from the West Bank--Just as Ukraine must be DeNazified, Palestine must be DeZionized: The people remaining in Palestine cannot be afflicted with Pleonexia, which is Zionism's fundamental attribute.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 5 2024 19:17 utc | 57

@54 Canuck

They're also well suited for oppressing opposition by the locals. Lacking a connection to the country and divided from the locals through this obnoxious pandering to them they will enthusiastically follow orders to do damn near anything.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Feb 5 2024 19:17 utc | 58

One just has to roll their eyes at the latest posting title projection from Reuters

Palestinians hope Blinken visit can deliver Gaza truce before Rafah assault

Like this zionist Blinken dude should have the Palestine folk HOPING he can deliver a Gaza truce.

Humanity will be better when the mouthpieces of exceptionalism like Reuters are silenced forever.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 5 2024 19:27 utc | 59

If the Likud was smart they’d accept 181 borders in exchange for no reparations & no war crimes trials.

Posted by: Exile | Feb 5 2024 19:28 utc | 60

Posted by: bevin | Feb 5 2024 18:14 utc | 41

I'm not a denier by any stretch of the imagination, but I find the 6m number really hard to swallow. Were there even that many jews living in Europe prior to 1932?
Too bad the Germans were lax on details and lousy at keeping records.....

Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 5 2024 18:41 utc | 51

Can't find it anymore but the Encyclopedia Britannica had a 1938 survey of Jews in Europe and another one in1948: in 1938 there was 15.2 million; 1948 it was slightly higher like 15.3 MM.

No, the 6 million is a gross exaggeration. I would surmise that 300,000 to 600,000 Jews died at the hands of the Nazis. But most of them died in labour camps from starvation, disease and overwork as did many nationalities under the Nazis. Very few were 'gassed' if any in my opinion.

Apparently, it is heresy, criminal in some countries [including Canada you idiot, editor] to even question the 'sacred' number of 6 million.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 5 2024 19:29 utc | 61

If the recent allegations concerning the Saudis are to be believed, the Gulfies are waiting for all this to blow over so they can get back to cozying up with Israel and earning brownie points from the US.
So far, not a single Abraham Accord country has cut ties with Israel.

Posted by: Feral Finster | Feb 5 2024 17:19 utc | 26

Your analysis is not good. The important point is retain is that the Gulf states are effectively each a ruling family and an oil-field. They're free to do whatever they want, as imported foreign workers don't count politically. But not Saudi, who have a substantial national population, who are pro-Palestinioan, and prevent MbS from making peace with Israel. But nobody thinks like you imagine any more. everyone is up in arms over Israeli genocide in Gaza.

Posted by: laguerre | Feb 5 2024 19:30 utc | 62

Do you notice how everyone involved in the State Department has a similar bio?

Biography
Hochstein was born in Israel, the child of American Jewish immigrants.

The US is a Jewish-Israeli-occupied country; until this is taken very seriously, nothing will be resolved.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Feb 5 2024 19:37 utc | 63

B, you're asking for reasoned realistic thinking from atrophied corpulent ossified bureaucracies. Every agency, dept, power centre in DC is competing primarily with each other on the basis of contradictory neoliberal woke ideological doublespeak. None of the middle or upper management have any capability or autonomy for putting any of this into a historical, regional or cultural context. If there is a driving motive it is resource land grabs and propping up an international finance protection racket, mining and banking. If you're a G-man in DC you're biding your time to move into mining and banking. The idea of the USA, which frankly was a powerful idea so long as it truly aimed at a 'great society', could only be maintained by holding predatory ruling classes at bay by strong regulation, but also with the help of educated, intelligent diplomats and career public servants. But like here in Australia, where a senior govt public servant gets the same salary as a fiance grad but only after 10-15 yrs of dedicated service, while the finance grad quickly begins to earn many multiples of that salary in bonuses alone, one can see why governments are bloated with mediocrity. Not to mention that government functions simply to support mining and banking.

The USA has only one MO, predatory parasitism. It must be reacted to accordingly. Reason cannot be used or expected. You might as well try to debate with a mosquito about finding a less invasive mode of living.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 19:40 utc | 64

The U.S. has no means, none, to press Hizbullah into a ceasefire or to push it to retreat from the border line.

The Lebanese government supports that move? Sure, verbally, as long as you cough up some money. But Hizbullah is part of that government. It is also the superior military power in Lebanon. Neither the Lebanese army nor the U.N. forces have the ability to fight it.


In come the NATO forces, UN mandate is not nessecary. A rehearsel in how to attack russian and iranian defences in the name of peace. Israel will fight till the last goy. The axis of resistence has to go for the head of the snake.

Posted by: gary | Feb 5 2024 19:42 utc | 65

B getting pretty worked up over this one...

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Feb 5 2024 19:44 utc | 66

Escobar posted an excellent graphic at his Telegram, Ansarallah Parting Red Sea. The symbolism is astonishing when contemplated.
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 5 2024 16:20 utc | 14
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The pic and the translation are great. Thank you all.

The proposal for a two-state solution being pushed around by the US seems to me a smokescreen to buy time until the US election is over. The US virtue mongering would be 'At least we tried!'

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 5 2024 19:45 utc | 67

by malenkov | Feb 5 2024 18:48 utc | 53 & hedlykarok | Feb 5 2024 18:41 utc | 51

Actually they were pretty bad at it—or better, scrupulous at times, sloppy at others.

When Nazis occupied Amsterdam, they found the meticulously detailed Citizen Records books with the house number, names, floor, apartment number and a religion.
It was a breeze to round up Jews and deport them, charging them for the train tickets to the concentration camps, too.
Germans were amazed with the Dutch record system and took over that practice along.

It’s also a myth that the Germans were ever good at keeping the trains running on time.

Well, in Namibia, trains are running on time pretty much, in a comparison to the rest of the Africa.

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 5 2024 19:52 utc | 68

@54 Canuck

"They're also well suited for oppressing opposition by the locals. Lacking a connection to the country and divided from the locals through this obnoxious pandering to them they will enthusiastically follow orders to do damn near anything."

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Feb 5 2024 19:17 utc | 58

I agree.

You are wise.

Tenny Frank (1) a early 20th century historian wrote that the Rome was ruined by immigration as it diluted the Roman stock and the 'orientalism' led to the 'slave' mentality, moral diminution of Roman society -it isn't the same, obviously, but it does rhyme.

1. https://dbcs.rutgers.edu/all-scholars/8710-frank-tenney

Posted by: canuck | Feb 5 2024 19:56 utc | 69

Perhaps I'm being naive but just as Americanization, of all races is considered a sine qua non of the American emigrant experience, why has Israel seemingly never tried a similar strategy vis a vis the 'excess' Palestinian population; i.e. motivate as many of them by positive reinforcement to become Jews or some hybrid of the two religions, with allegiance to the Holy Land qua that?

Less than a quarter of Israel's population proper is Palestinian and here too the effort to convert via positive reinforcement to Judaism or a hybrid faith seems even more glaringly non-existent. It appears the reason, whose time of opportunity may well have passed, is racism. The Palestinians, in their vast majority, are seen as gypsies in their own land or at least as the inferior indigenes, but without even the attempt to proselytize to the Palestinians as was done to the indigenous or even to the Jews.

But where is free will in all this, isn't the foundational Zionist ideology of the state of Israel one that admits little of free will, by making its faith one of the tribally elect, wherein free will is rather a weapon to be used against the atomized others or neocolonized Other en masse? Free will is something to protect oneself against, if one does not know the layout of the maze before hand, and the maze is precisely the imperial chaos set ablaze at certain determined times a la 9/11 or Oct 7.

Posted by: Ludo | Feb 5 2024 19:56 utc | 70

patroklos,
the whole capitalist west is preying on any single meter square where people live on solidarity and still own their land

imo it is a global war on the poor and it started in the 80s or 90s.

Posted by: Minaa | Feb 5 2024 19:56 utc | 71

Posted by: canuck | Feb 5 2024 19:29 utc | 61

I find this discussion historically disturbing. Bad at keeping records? Operation Reinhard was meticulously documented. The Höfle telegram enigma intercept listed the number of people 'specially processed' in Majdanek, Belżec, Sobibor and Treblinka alone at over 1.2M in 1942 alone. The use of gas for industrial murder is not being contested here, surely? Critique of Israeli genocide does not require denying the historical reality of Nazi ethnic cleansing. If this is where discussion at the bar is headed it's alarming.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 19:59 utc | 72

In response to
"
B getting pretty worked up over this one...

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Feb 5 2024 19:44 utc | 66
"

I noticed the strong language as well. It is hard not to have feelings about the failure of our species to not value human life better than we seem to be doing. The blatant barbarism is and should be jarring to most but more I suspect is the social media exposition of the genocide to a broader audience than past social upheavals.....it is hard to gloss over Hollywood style.

My psychic energy goes out to b for his ongoing efforts to keep this web site speaking truth to power going as long as he has.....it has to be taking its toll.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 5 2024 20:08 utc | 73

pyrrhus | Feb 5 2024 15:49 utc | 5

He was an IDF soldier . Usa can't even understand diplomacy if that was an honest attempt. If not its just the height of arrogance to do one way negotiations

Posted by: Hankster | Feb 5 2024 20:15 utc | 74

karlof1 @ 57

There are fewer than 16 million Jews on the planet. Seven million in Israel and six million in US. Israel is their One Big Project. When it fails and is seen to fail and no amount of PR and indoctrination can make Jews look like anything but losers and sore losers and big dumb sore losers hopefully the 99.8% of the population that is not Jewish quit paying so damn much attention to the 0.2%. Already we see the population walking away from Jewish media and Jewish entertainment and Jewish authors and Jewish navel-gazing. Gaza accelerated the process greatly.

All the Russian Jews I used to know became Ukrainian Jews two yers ago. They are now Lithuanian Jews or possibly Russian Jews again. The wheel of fashion will have them claiming they were maybe one quarter Jewish two or three generations back.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 5 2024 20:17 utc | 75

News from Ukraina- eu exports ammo to third country

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said that the EU is not fulfilling its own plans to supply Ukraine with artillery shells not because the EU countries do not have enough production capacity, but because they export shells to other countries.

https://strana.news/news/457021-pochemu-es-ne-vypolnjaet-plan-postavki-ukraine-snarjadov-zhozep-borrel.html

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Feb 5 2024 20:17 utc | 76

accept 181 borders in exchange for no reparations & no war crimes trials.

Oh HELL NO.

Why is it that when the Murder Rate of these criminals surpasses 100 or so, that they suddenly become subject to (ostensible) Special Treatment?

To hell with that nonsense.

A substantive DETERRENT is the only fucking thing that gets the attention of these satanists.

Posted by: The Archivist | Feb 5 2024 20:18 utc | 77

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said

A PRINCIPAL enabler of the deaths of 500,000 said something?

This bastard should be in LEG IRONS.

Posted by: The Archivist | Feb 5 2024 20:22 utc | 78

The use of gas for industrial murder is not being contested here, surely?

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 19:59 utc | 72

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I’ll contest it only inasmuch as gassing was by far not the only means used to exterminate European Jewry, and an excessive focus on gassing distorts the reality — and the breadth — of Nazi crimes.

The 6 million number is of course a ballpark figure and as such is essentially correct, even if the actual (and unknowable) number should happen to be a few hundred thousand lower — or higher. But here, too, excessive focus on a detail distorts the issue: surely we shouldn’t say that it would have been 25% less bad if only 4.5 million had been exterminated?

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 20:24 utc | 79

Oops, cut off my ending:

Similarly, we can dismiss with contempt those who say there’s no ongoing genocide in Gaza because only 10,000 — no, make that 20,000 — oh well, 30,000 and counting — civilians have been killed by various means.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 20:28 utc | 80

It’s the end of Israel as we know it!

And I feel fiiiiiiiine!

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 20:36 utc | 81

But Israel's government needs a victory. Its war aims in Gaza are clearly not achievable.

You really don't get it do you B?

Israel's war aim is the ethnic cleansing/extermination of the Palestinians in Gaza. A war with Hamas is just a cover for continuation of unfinished business from the 1948 Nakba.

And yes, the US is party to this genocidal Crime against Humanity.

Posted by: Posa | Feb 5 2024 20:39 utc | 82

Uncle Sam:
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 5 2024 20:45 utc | 83

>> Hezbollah ... will retreat between eight to ten kilometers north from the border.

What right does anybody but the Lebanese government have to decide what Lebanon does on their own land?

If Israel wants a buffer zone, they are free to give up ten kilometers of their own land!

The same goes, by the way, for buffer zones to Gaza, Syria or anybody else Israel wants to keep their distance from. (it also goes for Turkey, if they want a buffer zone with Syria - move away from the border!

You disagree? Then you surely won't have a problem with Russia creating a buffer zone the size of Ukraine on their western border. And soon extending that buffer zone north, all the way to the Baltic sea?

Posted by: Marvin | Feb 5 2024 20:47 utc | 84

But here, too, excessive focus on a detail distorts the issue: surely we shouldn’t say that it would have been 25% less bad if only 4.5 million had been exterminated?

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 20:24 utc | 79

But what if the per capita casualties amongst Jews were pretty much the same as the per capita deaths amongs all other civilians in those affected regions? Slavs, for instance, suffered horrifically at the hands of the Nazis, and were just as much targeted for extermination as the Jews were.

Why is it that we only apply the word “holocaust” and “death camps” to the Jewish victims, when there were so many more others who were murdered—far more than 4 million?

BTW: I’ve been slogging my way through Hillberg’s “Destruction of European Jewry” and, despite repeated searches of the index, have yet to come across any genuinely sourced catalogs that verify there were 6 million civilian Jewish victims murdered by the Nazis. There are only guesstimates, so far as I can tell.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 20:47 utc | 85

The use of gas for industrial murder is not being contested here, surely? Critique of Israeli genocide does not require denying the historical reality of Nazi ethnic cleansing. If this is where discussion at the bar is headed it's alarming.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 5 2024 19:59 utc | 72
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Unfortunately, yes.
It is being contested here.
And has been in the past.
I guess you are a newbie here.
There are certain people who look for any opportunity to take this turn. Ignorant people who do not speak German or Polish and can't read any original documents. Any questioning of the 6m figure is a trigger for them to zoom in, like green flies landing on a fresh turd. Brace yourself for the next turd---a discussion of crematoria capacity by people who have never heard of the Fa. Topf.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 5 2024 20:52 utc | 86

Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 20:36 utc | 81

And I feel fiiiiiiiine

Maybe OT, but that line resonates greatly with me,

from Wales....,

thanks.

Posted by: john | Feb 5 2024 20:56 utc | 87

Japan's Itochu Corporation, one of the world's largest companies, announced today that it is ending its partnership with the largest zionist weapons company, Elbit Systems.

The company cited the International Court of Justice's ruling at the end of January as the reason for cutting ties, and stated that they have already suspended new activities coming from a March 2023 memorandum of understanding.

The decision also comes following rounds of protests over several months in front of Itochu's Tokyo headquarters due to its dealings with the zionist entity.

This is the second major cessation of relations with Elbit this week, after logistics giant K+N cut ties earlier due to direct action by Palestine Action

Small steps

Posted by: Hankster | Feb 5 2024 21:00 utc | 88

@ Pacifica Advocate | Feb 5 2024 20:47 utc | 85

Your questions are entirely legitimate, although wrt the first one I doubt seriously that, say, French civilian casualties approached Russian or Polish or Jewish ones in terms of percentage.

Posed and addressed responsibly, such questions would ideally illuminate. As I see it, Slavs were to be attritted and/or exterminated down to a manageable slave population; Jews and Roma exterminated entirely (the matter of “Mischlinge” notwithstanding).

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 21:00 utc | 89

There was a document originated by the Red Cross that counted jewish deaths in Europe and you can see it's authenticity from the image's appearance. The Polish area saw 2.4 million died, Germany saw 257,000 dead at the hands of German soldiers although another 200,000 died when "Allied" bombers destroyed German resupply convoys repeatedly that were destined for the camps. When American soldiers showed up, gaunt and starving prisoners had their pictures taken, desperate for food and water.

Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 5 2024 21:00 utc | 90

My last was for canuck @ 61.

Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 5 2024 21:01 utc | 91

What right does anybody but the Lebanese government have to decide what Lebanon does on their own land?

If Israel wants a buffer zone, they are free to give up ten kilometers of their own land!

Posted by: Marvin | Feb 5 2024 20:47 utc | 84

____

Yeah, how strange that the USA’s latest “honest broker” didn’t mention Israel’s illegal occupation of the Shebaa Farms as part of a “peace proposal”!

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 5 2024 21:05 utc | 92

Germans were amazed with the Dutch record system and took over that practice along.

It’s also a myth that the Germans were ever good at keeping the trains running on time.
Posted by: whirlX | Feb 5 2024 19:52 utc | 68
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That did not last long. Church records and other records quickly disappeared after that news broke.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 5 2024 21:05 utc | 93

Patty @ 72
And you know this to be true in your heart because.....
You saw some hollywood movies or read some interesting books??

Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 5 2024 21:07 utc | 94

Heartening success in a a UK employment tribunal for a Bristol University academic dismissed for so-called 'antisemitism': https://www.theguardian.com/education/2024/feb/05/uk-professor-suffered-discrimination-due-to-anti-zionist-beliefs-tribunal-rules
His reaction, and that of followers, on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Tracking_Power/status/1754583675511988511

Posted by: Shakesvshav | Feb 5 2024 21:09 utc | 95

Muttman ( Feb 5 2024 18:06 utc | 40 ):
Their nukes don't matter (if they have them, and if they are working). They can try to use any such, then what do you think happens next? How do you think the world will react? How do you think the global population will react?

How will you yourself react?

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 5 2024 21:13 utc | 96

I noticed the strong language as well. It is hard not to have feelings about the failure of our species to not value human life better than we seem to be doing. The blatant barbarism is and should be jarring to most but more I suspect is the social media exposition of the genocide to a broader audience than past social upheavals.....it is hard to gloss over Hollywood style.

My psychic energy goes out to b for his ongoing efforts to keep this web site speaking truth to power going as long as he has.....it has to be taking its toll.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 5 2024 20:08 utc | 73
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In full support of the above I am. I think that the time has come for many of us to voice support for b and throw another Euro in the pot as well. He has rendered an incredibly remarkable service and is doing so on a daily basis. I have compared him to IF Stone, who put out a weekly and when the burden to became too big, a biweekly.

Covering the genocide in Gaza in detail every single day has to take its toll, as mentioned and noticed. Best wishes, b!

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 5 2024 21:17 utc | 97

But why the Biden administration even thinks that it can stop such a clash by presenting plans it has no means to press for is beyond me.

later they claim they tried to obtain peace. See look at this plan that got turned down. They create their own reality and while peeps like u and me are scratchin ourheads in wonderment they have moved on to a different created reality. HT to carl rove

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Feb 5 2024 21:21 utc | 98

Patty @ 72BTW there is two very detailed videos of two engineering experts that went to some of the worst camps in the late 50's to examine ALL the structures extensively to try and get to the bottom of this narrative and came away giving a two thumbs down to the official "story". It did not happen the way it was portrayed. This was at a time when the Jewish obstruction and obfuscation wasn't as bad as it is today. Of course you will never see these videos or their conclusions unless you spend any amount of time at Bitchute, Rumble or the fantastic site HenryMakow.com. The hobby shops and activity centres as well as the sports fields were destroyed after clearing out the inhabitants I guess. IT'S ALL THERE TO SEE IF YOU WANT TO TRY AND DIG THEM UP.

Even the memoirs of leaders such as Churchill or Eisenhower NEVER mentioned at all these camps.

If only I had eyes to see and a mind to process...

Posted by: bisfugged | Feb 5 2024 21:21 utc | 99

Posted by: Posa | Feb 5 2024 20:39 utc | 82

Israel's war aim is the ethnic cleansing/extermination of the Palestinians in Gaza. A war with Hamas is just a cover for continuation of unfinished business from the 1948 Nakba.

Precisely. Much as I love coming here and reading b's analysis, and the barflies' comments, I despair sometimes. As long as Israel can continue flattening Gaza's housing while throttling food, medicine and supplies to the population, it is winning (in the same way that Russia's attrition of Ukrainian manpower is "winning" that war, despite few territorial gains).

If the Gazans have nowhere to live and face starvation unless they flee to Egypt (or further afield) there will be no Hamas.

The Gazan's only hope at this stage is that the Western MIC's greed (the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict is a great little earner) is more influential on our "leaders" than AIPAC et al's.

Posted by: Observer | Feb 5 2024 21:23 utc | 100

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