Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
February 3, 2024
Ending The U.S. Presence In Middle East

The Biden administration, in its utter stupidity, is launching a(nother) full fledged war throughout the Middle East.

U.S. launches retaliatory strikes after deadly attack on Jordan baseWashington Post – Feb 3, 2024
The operation, targeting numerous sites in Iraq and Syria used by Iranian forces and its affiliates, followed the killing of American troops last weekend

> U.S. forces launched a broad attack against Iran’s powerful military wing and affiliated militias in Iraq and Syria on Friday, delivering a blow to armed groups that Washington has blamed for killing American troops in Jordan and a surge of violence across the Middle East. <

Daniel McAdams @DanielLMcAdams – 11:01 UTC · Feb 3, 2024

The Biden Administration just literally just blew up all the weapons of the Iraqi brigade that was fighting ISIS!
Let that sink in…

Hawkeye1812Z @Hawkeye1745 22:09 UTC · Feb 2, 2024

🇺🇸💥🇮🇶Footage shows the explosions of the headquarters of the Anbar Operation Command & the headquarters of the 13th Hashd al-Sha’bi Brigade, after it was targeted by US raids, in the Anbar province of Iraq

That is is unit which is fighting ISIS … 🤔
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Secretary Antony Blinken @SecBlinken – 21:01 UTC · Feb 2, 2024

I am returning to the Middle East this coming week to continue working with our partners on how to achieve durable peace in the region, with lasting security for Israelis and Palestinians alike.

President Biden @POTUS – 22:45 UTC · Feb 2, 2024

Today, at my direction, U.S. military forces struck targets in Iraq and Syria that the IRGC and affiliated militia use to attack U.S. forces.

We do not seek conflict in the Middle East or anywhere else in the world.

But to all those who seek to do us harm: We will respond.

Elijah J. Magnier @ejmalrai – 14:11 UTC · Feb 3, 2024

The US: We don't want to escalate the war in the ME, but we bombed Yemen & killed 10 Yemenis, we bombed Syria & Iraq & killed 16 Iraqis, 7 Syrians, but please de-escalate coz we will bomb you more in the coming days. In the meantime we are sending bombs to Israel to bomb Gaza.

In 2020, after the U.S. assassination of General Qassam Suleimani, the leadership of Iran announced that, in consequence, the U.S. presence in the Middle East will be ended. Iran and its allies have since diligently prepared themselves to achieve that aim.

The hot phase of the process itself was initiated primarily by Hamas on October 7 (which followed the October 2 desecration of Al-Aqsa Mosque by Zionist settlers). The secondary and tertiary steps were launched by Ansarollah in Yemen and Kataib Hizbullah in Iraq.

In each cases the U.S. and its Israeli proxy responded with harsh escalations.

It was the biggest mistake they could make.

agitpapa @agitpapa – 15:07 UTC · Feb 3, 2024

Harakat al Nujaba PMF declares that it will not be defeated or subdued by US airstrikes and vows to teach the US humility with fire, says it has surprises in store.
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Syrian military statement: US occupation cannot persistAl Mayadeen – Feb 3, 2024
In its statement, Syria's military emphasizes that the US is working on reviving ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

> The statement also affirmed that the Syrian army will continue to defend Syria's land and people, and strike all terrorist groups, regardless of how much their sponsors and supporters try to obstruct this goal. It added that it is determined to liberate the entire Syrian territory from all terrorism and occupation, including the US occupation which "cannot persist." <

The Axis of Resistance is present throughout the Middle East. It has its own economic and social networks. It produces its own weapons and its fighters are well trained to fight under the local circumstances. This is an enemy the U.S. can not defeat.

As Aaron Maté explains:

These groups’ decision to strike US forces in response to the Gaza genocide follows a well-entrenched pattern of resisting joint US-Israeli aggression, or what the Journal describes as efforts to “push back against American and Israeli influence” in the Middle East. And contrary to US claims that Iran’s main regional allies – Hezbollah in Lebanon, Ansar Allah in Yemen (the Houthis), the PMU in Iraq, Hamas/Islamic Jihad in Palestine, and the Syrian government — are all mere Iranian “proxies”, these groups “have domestic agendas of their own and operate with some measure of autonomy,” the Journal notes. US intelligence analyst Brian Katz concurs. Iran’s allies “are no longer simply Iranian proxies,” Katz writes. “Rather, they have become a collection of ideologically aligned, militarily interdependent, mature political-military actors committed to mutual defence.”

The conflict has boiling on a low flame for some time:

As the Washington Post notes, Iranian allies in the region “began targeting U.S. interests in 2018, after then-President Donald Trump withdrew the United States from a landmark nuclear deal with Tehran” as part of a hawkish policy of “maximum pressure.” Rather than return to the Iran nuclear deal upon taking office in January 2021, Biden continued the Trump agenda – and knowingly endangered US troops in the process.

When Biden “ordered airstrikes on militia groups” in Syria, the Washington Post reported in August 2021, that ended up “sparking a fresh cycle of reciprocal violence, with militiamen firing at a facility housing U.S. troops and American forces responding with artillery fire.” Biden’s support for Israeli aggression against Syria yielded the same result. When a drone strike hit a US military base located in southern Syria in October 2021, US and Israeli officials acknowledged that it was “Iranian retaliation for Israeli airstrikes in Syria,” the New York Times reported.

In launching and encouraging attacks on Iranian allies in the region, Biden was pursuing an arrangement that he forged with the Israeli government In August 2021, then-Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett urged Biden to pursue “a death by a thousand cuts” strategy, in which the US and Israel would “[counter] Iran through a combination of many small actions across several fronts — both military and diplomatic — instead of a single dramatic strike,” Axios reported. The goal would be to put Iran’s “regional aggression” – a euphemism for resisting US-Israeli hegemony – “back in the box.” Toward that goal, one of Bennett’s key requests was that “Biden not to pull U.S. forces out of Iraq and Syria,” which the Israeli delegation felt quite “optimistic” about. In Biden, Bennett gushed, “I found a leader who loves Israel, knows exactly what he wants and is attuned to our needs.”

In opposite to those plans it is the Resistance which is using small and increasingly larger cuts to eliminate, over time, the U.S. presence in the Middle East. It is dead serious.

As Aleks of Black Mountain Analysis writes:

I would like to ask you now to understand the following: It is not what I want or my opinion; it is the ice-cold reality: On October 7th, a war was started by the Axis of Resistance. It was started against both Israel and the Western occupation of the Middle East. As stated above, it will not end before all occupation forces are out of the Middle East, the Two State Solution has been implemented in Israel, or all people in the Middle East are dead … period.

I have no emotions here; I’m not invested in the region. This is a logical assessment of what is currently happening in the region. It is not going to stop until one of the scenarios is implemented.

Other interested powers are already positioning themselves for a new situation in the Middle East.

Give it two, three or maybe even five years. But the envisioned results WILL be achieved.

Comments

Re: Jonathan W
Olof Palme was the last Swedish elected politician who showed some integrity and sovereignty, often in stark contrast to the anglo-zionist narrative, with regards to Vietnam, South Africa, Palestine and the Soviet Union (with the last one eventually getting him killed).
Since then, each and every one of the puppets occupying public positions in Sweden have been Zio-obedient chihuahuas, with the latest proof being the Swedes’ joining in with their genocidal anglo-zio masters in withdrawing their financial support for UNRWA!
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Feb 4 2024 11:16 utc | 291

And now his eldest son Joakim is on the board of the “Olof Palme price” that the other day handed out this year’s price to BELLINGCAT. Let that sink in.
https://www.palmefonden.se/2024-ars-olof-palmepris-till-bellingcat/

Posted by: blueswede | Feb 4 2024 13:37 utc | 301

I think either you or bevin could be right depending on the case and circumstances. In the German case, Bismarck, although responding to a threat, was acting from a position of strength and could parlay his power effectively.
I’m thinking about how devoted my father was to the corp he worked for, in great part because it took care of him: excellent pension and insurance benefits. He soured somewhat when the corp was bought out with an essentially exploitative/predatory set of behaviors, but by then he was too set in his ways to go leftist.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 4 2024 13:39 utc | 302

Reminder that the thread for issues/items NOT related to Ukraine or Palestine is here:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/01/open-neither-ukraine-nor-palestine-thread-2024-034.html

Posted by: librul | Feb 4 2024 13:40 utc | 303

re malenkov | Feb 4 2024 13:39 utc | 302
Oops—addressed to canuck of course.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 4 2024 13:41 utc | 304

It’s all related.

Posted by: blueswede | Feb 4 2024 13:42 utc | 305

@ blueswede | Feb 4 2024 13:42 utc | 305
True, but librul’s admonition is worth heeding (and I’ll do so after hitting Send on this comment…)
But do have pity, librul—especially on a cell phone it’s difficult without lots of scrolling to keep track of the thread topic!

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 4 2024 13:51 utc | 306

Posted by: blueswede | Feb 4 2024 13:37 utc | 301
damn, talk about dishonoring your father.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 4 2024 13:52 utc | 307

Re: Civil War in the USA
Way up thread a barfly mentioned how the run-up to the Spanish Civil War paralleled today’s societal divisions in the U.S. agreed
Although my guess is the forthcoming civil war in the U.S. will be more akin to the Chinese Warlord era.

Posted by: Exile | Feb 4 2024 13:59 utc | 308

Posted by: RLTW | Feb 4 2024 0:53 utc | 202
Great entertaining story

Posted by: Exile | Feb 4 2024 14:00 utc | 309

Posted by: blueswede | Feb 4 2024 13:37 utc | 301
I wasn’t aware of that.
Butbthere are a lot of things we shoukd let sink in, in the same vein. Jens Stoltenberg’s father Thorvald did this (according to Wikipedia): In 2010, together with 25 other statesmen, he sent a letter to EU leaders and the heads of government of the EU countries, demanding sanctions against Israel for its violations of international law.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 4 2024 14:02 utc | 310

Posted by: canuck | Feb 4 2024 13:22 utc | 300
Bismark altruistic : definitely not.
but a brilliant strategist.
His “Sozialgesetze” opus was designed to be the bulwark of the “haves” against the populace _by decreasing pressure_ in the lower parts of society.
( and health care, limiting worktime, workplace savety, … increased productivity win|win! )
Defensive positions get more attention than assets you have grown to take for granted.
Thus the “bulwark” design of Bismark’s reforms made it viable for over a century.
Till greed on the riches side overwhelmed any good sense and the system started to be dismantled.

Posted by: MAKK | Feb 4 2024 14:06 utc | 311

Posted by: Soviético | Feb 4 2024 5:07 utc | 254
The famine due to blockade was in 1918-19 I think; the communists getting close to winning elections was a decade later or so. Many people at the time in many countries, rightly or wrongly, believed that this sort of bloody class war would happen to them if the communists took over. This is a fact.
Maybe I am a neo-Nazi, maybe not. But I think a lot of people here have drunk marxist-communist Kool-Aid themselves which is why there is so much denial about just how ghastly the ‘dictatorship of the proletariat’ was in Russia. So if you are getting your history of the period from dedicated left wing, usually Jewish-managed, sources you are getting a distorted picture, and your idea of ‘Nazi’ is similarly distorted, like how they describe Palestinians today.
I am not pro or anti Nazi or Soviet. I am anti lies, that’s all. And I find usually when a side is demonized the side doing it is more to blame than the side being demonized.
If you want to read up on much of this with a political overview, check out Peter Myers book now for free in pdf which you can easily translate. 90% of it is original source material and only 10% or less his opinion. Much of the material isn’t easy to find. For example, Marx’s paper on the Russian Loan which is in Chapter 11 shows just how sophisticated Jewish money-lending networks world wide were in the 1850’s already. You can only get the hard copy in one NYC library, not online.
https://baronbrasdor.files.wordpress.com/2024/02/cosmopolitan-empire-peter-myers-toc.pdf

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 4 2024 14:15 utc | 312

Posted by: librul | Feb 4 2024 13:40 utc | 303
Yeah, a tangential remark or two is one thing but there are often pages and pages of “stuffing” that’d be hard work even on the generic thread. It cannot go unnoticed that the perpetrators are unwilling to direct their missives appropriately.
If brevity is the soul of wit, those are some unfunny guys.

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 4 2024 14:18 utc | 313

It’s the end of Israel as we’ve known it.
Hurrah!
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 3 2024 17:47 utc | 53
This couldnt happen without going thru the Samson option.
At least Damascus would be nuked …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 4 2024 14:18 utc | 314

Hezzbollah was never an Iranian proxy. The US has told these types of lies for decades. Hezzbollah didn’t even exist until the invasion of Southern Lebanon in 1982. The Shia population was originally ok with the IDF chasing out the PLO and Palestinians…as they were all poor, stole, had no jobs or food. Once Israel started putting up roadblocks, establishing curfews, and building military bases everything changed. They suddenly realized they were to be the next Palestinians. They have fought tooth and nail to keep their homeland ever since. Not to say they don’t work with Iran… or Hamas (even though Hamas is sunni). They do this because it puts them in a stronger position to fight off Israel.

Posted by: Goldhoarder | Feb 4 2024 14:37 utc | 315

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/98823

👉🇯🇴🇺🇸 Iraq stopped selling oil to Jordan because of its participation in the US airstrikes last night
Jordan receives a small amount of oil from Iraq (8%). However, the very position of Baghdad shows how quickly the situation in the Middle East is heating up.

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 4 2024 14:40 utc | 316

Unfortunately if no coalition Navel ships are sunk, or tanker planes that refuel airborne jets, or jets themselves are untouchable then it’s just a duck shoot on the ground. Reality sucks.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 4 2024 14:52 utc | 317

First off let’s dispense with the idea that Israel is a client state of the USA. Quite the opposite. The USA is a vassal state of Israel. The vast majority of our “elected” representatives are sexual deviants … Notwithstanding, all of them are subject to AIPAC funding ..Posted by: RLTW | Feb 4 2024 0:53 utc | 202 

First off let’s dispense with the myth that flies in the face of the hard economic, political, historical reality. To invert vassal/client vis global imperialist power relation always needs this voodoo Epsteinesque/AIPACish wizardry: the elected fucks are the real power, and Israel got them by the balls, one by one. As for funding, that the fundable are so because the interests they represent coincide greatly if not fully with those of the Zionist entity, is magically replaced by “the reps are bought”… wait until I offer the reps more money than AIPAC to prove you wrong.This is really a perversion of the logic of politics and of history, and it should be shunned by anti-imperialists. Many of my brothers harbor this view, no doubt fed by the RLTWs of the imperialist countries who, intentions aside, find it easy to use familiar, racist concepts to explain their countries’ genocidal policies. 
More…

USA foreign policy is fully owned by Israel. Once you understand this, things begin to make more sense. The Jews of Israel want to drag the USA into a regional war in the Middle East. Their cousin Jews in the Ukraine want to drag the USA into a war with Russia.

To be consistent with “fully owned”, one should write how the Jews of Xinjiang  or of Taiwan want to drag the USA into a war with China, as some other Jews dragged it into the Vietnam war. The Jews too are behind the 800 bases around the globe.The rest of the latest from this alleged ex-rambo sounds right out of a cheap novel. Tiresome. The main message is racist, and provides fodder for the Zionists’ anti-semitism cynicism, and like the rest of RLTWs’ — deserves nothing but scorn. If he’s sincere about opposing US/Zionist genocide, he would first ditch his racist views; worldview.

Posted by: SlowDL | Feb 4 2024 14:55 utc | 318

Well happy Sunday everyone. So much bait to bite, so many bots to smite.
Hmm I think a little single one today because it is so … Hollywood.
So natzio, so much of a smoke up our arses genre.
So come up and collect your prize.
@ Posted by: RLTW | Feb 4 2024 0:53 utc | 202
Let’s start with the latest Rambo, the new Col Laing, with his preposterous memoirs celebrating personal self deluded grandeur and strength of body and mind.
Revealing in the sado masochism of his mythical great white soldier man!
A one man journey into the heart of darkness!
“I did what I did for my cuntterry! For my Aryan blood. They can’t have my pure Essence of Life anymore..!”
All you did in Afghanistan was to support the reinstallation of Poppy farming and production and transportation of opium.
That’s what the Taliban had stopped. That’s why you went to ‘avenge’ some goat herds , who’d never be on a plane in their lives, and hey did you actually kill and eat their goats? And steal their watermelons?
Yeah a great ‘story’ , the ZOG conspiracy theory, straight outta Langley. A great lie smuggled under much truth.
The American Dream. Born and raised under violence and rape. A Sex and Death embrace. A myth of individualism.
It’s been a literary motif for the ‘Greats’ – Hemingway, Mailer, Roth etc.
You! soldier, we’re nothing except a deluded Yankee child nation , a imperial copycat of the European Imperialists going back centuries – just another evolution of the Jesuits Missions – ‘Give me a child at 6 and I will give you the Man’ – they never went away.
But above all, these they serve, also did and still do, you.
They still exist. They transmuted into other forms. Because they are the shapeshifters.
Finally since you mentioned them first, great soldier man , what are you teaching your
“ Me and my white children got our popcorn “
Are you terrorising them with your loving masochistic care and physical brutality?
😂 As I say – it’s a great story – you are obviously a snake oil merchant, as are much of your stories; because I distinctly remember when you popped on the scene here some weeks ago, claiming your kids were LATINO!!!
Ain’t that so ? Peons!
Jeez man (?) when you tell tales , it’s best to remember what you already lied about.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 4 2024 15:00 utc | 319

“…bevin’s idea that more social welfare leads to less power on the behalf of the Elites, is a delusion; in fact, the opposite is true…”
canuck | Feb 4 2024 13:22 utc | 300
That was not my idea at all.
What I was pointing out was that as reform movements nationalise economic activities, taking them out of the hands of the capitalist corporations and individuals and putting them under government control the area within which capitalists can make profit is diminished.
Hence, OHIP in Ontario restricted the profit making capacities of Medical practitioners, private hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and various other allied enterprises including insurance companies. This is not to say that the process cannot be both reversed, as is currently happening or avoided. Capitalists are very adaptable and opportunistic. They are also constantly attempting to re-conquer areas that they have lost- such as basic pensions- and recalim them for profitmaking.
However the facts are irrefutable- when the State takes over economic sectors it takes power from individual capitalists, although, in the end it will have done so to give power to the ruling class which is, generally, dominated by capitalists. Thus the State sector usually ends up subsidising entrepreneurs and corporations, thanks to their political power.
It was this which the neo-liberals saw and set out to repair: by taking Council Housing out of the hsands of the municipalities and into the private sector, for example, as happened under Thatcher an enormous growthin the sctorv of rental accomodation began-directly benefiting the capitalists. By privatising state owned enterprises similar bonanzas for private investors were assured. And the public good, in the matters of rail fares and energy costs, water services etc was greatly compromised.
As to the German example- Bismarck was following the American System guidance provided by Friedrich List. He was alive, as many conservatives scross Europde were, to the dangerous social consequences of unrestrained competition, not only on the health and strength, education and morale of the labour force (and army) but also in the political arena where radical parties put forth anti-capitalist programmes. Bismarck, a Junker conservative with paternalistic ideas, was part of a widespread movement that rejected liberalism and harked bsack to the idealised medieavalism that dominated Europan art and literature for much of the C19th (check out a Victorian Cathedral- look at the Gothic Reival, consider the works of Carlyle and Ruskin. This reaction against liberalism and untamed capitalism has deep roots- after Bismarck came the new liberalism of the Lloyd George budget, the USC Progressives, Hobson on Imperialism and the dreaded Fabians.
It will be a frosty day in July before I need history lessons from canuck and the faculty at the wiki-university.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 4 2024 15:14 utc | 320

“You thought I forgot about y’all, Nemesis and Scorpion.
Our resident Nazis.”
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 3 2024 23:47 utc | 188
By making such vile, boorish accusations you only showcase your lack of intellectual ammunition and basic civility.
But I must confess, at one time, like you, levelled repulsive, baseless accusations against my peers…..but at that time I was in the second grade.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 4 2024 15:26 utc | 321

Canuck
You must be new around here.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 4 2024 15:32 utc | 322

@ canuck | Feb 4 2024 15:26 utc | 321
In all fairness to Pacifica Advocate, NemesisCalling has praised Hitler in quite explicit terms several times on this site. I don’t think Scorpion has adopted Nazi Gedankengut to an undeniable degree, although I admit my eyes sometimes glaze over when I start reading his posts.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 4 2024 15:33 utc | 323

I am not pro or anti Nazi or Soviet. I am anti lies, that’s all.
Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 4 2024 14:15 utc | 312

And of course you should know the truth to be anti lies.

And I find usually when a side is demonized the side doing it is more to blame than the side being demonized.

Bingo.
By your implied criteria of truth, the most truthful, and least “to blame”, is the most demonised and vilified person in history. Any guess who that might be?

Posted by: SlowDL | Feb 4 2024 15:34 utc | 324

SlowDL @ 324
Answer…..
Jeremy Corbin ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 4 2024 15:52 utc | 325

be instantaneous and final, carried out by all locals everywhere.
Israel doesn’t possess enough nukes to cause a “nuclear winter”, and in any case the “Samson option” only begins once Israel is annihilated.
It’s a myth, created by Anglo-Mossad intelligence services as a form of rhetorical deterrence that deceives none of the axis of resistance.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 16:02 utc | 326

This couldnt happen without going thru the Samson option.
At least Damascus would be nuked …
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 4 2024 14:18 utc | 314

The “Samson option” is a myth. Russia would zap any Israeli missiles tha got free using its defense systems (which now cover nearly all of Asia proper—or immediately will), and Russian subs would eradicate Israeli subs likely before the Izzies could escape their harbors.
The countries most devastated by the mythological “Samson option” would be Israel’s backers in NATO and perhaps a good bit of the Middle East. The reprisals against international Jewry in all such affected places would be instantaneous and final, carried out by all locals everywhere. Not to mention the historical eradication of Judaism as anything but a blight upon humanity in the rescued parts of the world.
Israel doesn’t possess enough nukes to cause a “nuclear winter”, and in any case the “Samson option” only begins once Israel is annihilated.
It’s a myth, created by Anglo-Mossad intelligence services as a form of rhetorical deterrence that deceives none of the axis of resistance.
(Sorry for the poor copy-paste from before)

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 16:10 utc | 327

“Anyone read S the thinker recently? He’s made the exact opposite analysis to B and seems to believe US imperialism is going to force the creation of a Palestinian state on the Zionazis, force a cease fire on the Zionazis and leave Iraq and Syria and basically the entire middle east.
I love the guy, but this recent post of his is just absurd. He was subject to some serious economic pressure recently. Think they got to him?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 3 2024 17:28 utc | 43”

Agree – it was an odd take from Simplicius The Thinker. He did cite some news articles, but those articles may be BS however. The Deal of The Millennium would involve taking on Israel to remove all the squatters and their belongings from the West Bank to make it part of Palestine. I’ll cut him some slack like I do all sources. He is insightful overall.

Posted by: daffyDuct | Feb 4 2024 16:18 utc | 328

Jeremy Corbin ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 4 2024 15:52 utc | 325
Didn’t he nuke Tel Aviv? 😉

Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 4 2024 16:18 utc | 329

David @ 329
I seen it on tele so it must be true.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 4 2024 16:26 utc | 330

@ slowDL, malenkiv, Mark2:
Thanks. Canuck has been such a frequent poster around here, lately—and someone I largely agree with, and learn new truths about Canada (and other histories) from—that I think I failed to recognize his rather more recent appearance in this scene.
@ canuck:
Feel free to utilize the search function on this site. I have come out many times in stark denunciation of tag-teaming, clap-on-the back and chuckle-me-through chant-and-response by Scorpion and NemesisCalling. In point of fact I think I may be the most vocal poster here about their indisputable partnership.
Nevertheless, I do confirm Scorpion in his odd historical contribution, here and there. Yes, there are facts to be learned “from the other side,” so to speak. And unlike many, here, I do remain an esoteric Christian, which Scorpion also is.
However, I do suggest you draw your attention to the semiotics of such names as “Scorpion” and “NemesisCalling”—and yeah, avail yourself of the search-function here, please. It is often enlightening.
For instance: I doubt you realize how important to this blog are the posters DebsIsDead, and DanOfSteele. These are historic old men who post less frequently here, these days, but who each, in their own way, helped set the tone for the music this blog creates

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 16:37 utc | 331

“The “Samson option” is a myth. Russia would zap any Israeli missiles that got free using its defense systems (which now cover nearly all of Asia proper—or immediately will), and Russian subs would eradicate Israeli subs likely before the Izzies could escape their harbors.”
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 16:10 utc | 327
“Russia could zap an Israeli missiles that got free using its defense systems.
Really?
Its seven minutes flight time from Israel to Tehran by missile (1,800 klicks); one minute or so to Damascus (300 klicks).
There is no way in hell the Russian ‘defense systems ‘ could activate that quickly.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 4 2024 16:42 utc | 332

Canuk @ 332
And then what ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 4 2024 16:53 utc | 333

Agree – it was an odd take from Simplicius The Thinker. He did cite some news articles, but those articles may be BS however. The Deal of The Millennium would involve taking on Israel to remove all the squatters and their belongings from the West Bank to make it part of Palestine. I’ll cut him some slack like I do all sources. He is insightful overall.
Posted by: daffyDuct | Feb 4 2024 16:18 utc | 328

I would suggest this exposes Simplicius as an Israeli sympathizer. Israeli Intel does pride itself on releasing the details of the capabilities of military equipment.
That is, essentially, what Simplicius has built his (their? as in plural, and not this bullshit newspeak the Feminazi tribe has ginned up to replace old, dependable English?) reputation upon.
Simplicity’s delivers reports that mostly describe the effects of new weaponry and how those innovations change the front line of the undeniable slaughter of Ukrainian men.
And here, @bevin, I do want to disagree with you, in much the same way as Canuck tried, but failed.
Except this is far more controversial among the old crew, here. No, it doesn’t make me a Nazi, but for many of the younger folk here it will likely color me as Nazi-adjacent.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 16:53 utc | 334

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 16:37 utc | 331
…………………
Not an ‘esoteric Christian’. You really do need to rein in your distorted projections.

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 4 2024 16:55 utc | 335

Its seven minutes flight time from Israel to Tehran by missile (1,800 klicks); one minute or so to Damascus (300 klicks).
There is no way in hell the Russian ‘defense systems ‘ could activate that quickly.
Posted by: canuck | Feb 4 2024 16:42 utc | 332

I don’t think you have fully understood what “hypersonic”, “self-guided”, and “defensively maneuverable” mean.
Maybe you should go study a dictionary, friend?

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 16:59 utc | 336

@ canuck | Feb 4 2024 15:26 utc | 321
In all fairness to Pacifica Advocate, NemesisCalling has praised Hitler in quite explicit terms several times on this site. I don’t think Scorpion has adopted Nazi Gedankengut to an undeniable degree, although I admit my eyes sometimes glaze over when I start reading his posts.
Posted by: malenkov | Feb 4 2024 15:33 utc | 323
Well, so what?
I will praise Hitler right here: drumroll…. for designing the most popular car in history: the Volkswagen Beetle. (1)
Doesn’t mean that I am praising the man’s character or his Fascist policies-I detest him and Nazi policy.
So I would have to see the particular Nemesis’ ‘Hitler praise’ in context to make a judgement.
I always read Scorpion’s missives as he’s a talented poster (and there are many from both sides of the political spectrum on MOA) and he definitely isn’t a Fascist; however he doesn’t buy the ‘socialist utopian bullshit’ (neither do I) so the ideologues jump him like he’s burned down their houses, pillaged their families and torn down Lenin’s statues.
I find when people provoke violence, both physically or through prose (calling someone a Nazi, is ‘violent prose’, in my book),its basically because they cannot defend their curated intellectual stances so they lash out recklessly, childishly, desperately.
1. https://www.dw.com/en/hitler-and-his-volkswagen-tracing-the-80-year-history-of-the-beetle/a-43942998

Posted by: canuck | Feb 4 2024 17:01 utc | 337

SlowDL @ 324
Answer…..
Jeremy Corbin ?
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 4 2024 15:52 utc | 325

I meant it more as a rhetorical question than as a reference to Stalin; the point is that the criterion enunciated by scorpion, of truth or lies, or “blame for lies”, is absurd.

Posted by: SlowDL | Feb 4 2024 17:05 utc | 338

Canuck @ 337
How about the Baderites ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 4 2024 17:06 utc | 339

Typo…
Banderits not Baderites

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 4 2024 17:08 utc | 340

Not an ‘esoteric Christian’. You really do need to rein in your distorted projections.
Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 4 2024 16:55 utc | 335

I am interested in learning why you chose to attack me—rhetorically, obviously—over this particular phrase.
What you’re saying here, Scorpion, is that all of your carefully disguised “I am a devout Christian” who adheres to a higher understanding of what is happening, now, is…backed up by no sort of faith?
There is nothing you can reveal to your flock?
Am I ruining your day, here, fellow believer?
Oh, wait: you mean “fellow believer” not in the sense of a fellow believer who shares shelter under the Church, and a faith in Christ the Messiah but rather as a “fellow believer” who shares your asinine belief that the palest and most environmentally frail of humanity should eradicate every other side of person and take their dwellings, because…winter is cold?

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 17:15 utc | 341

Just out for a joke, until we return to topic they dont take the hint.
Anal.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 4 2024 17:22 utc | 342

Not an ‘esoteric Christian’. You really do need to rein in your distorted projections.
Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 4 2024 16:55 utc | 335

So you’re not “Esoteric”—even as you have so obviously masqueraded—
What you mean is that you are a hard-right Fundamentalist, or Evangelical, from the Deep South / far-north-west of the US, with your heritage probably harking from Germany, Bohemia, Austria (maybe Galicia?), and you want to recruit new blood to help you fight the Good Fight in defense of…what? Exactly?

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 17:23 utc | 343

@ canuck | Feb 4 2024 17:01 utc | 337
A changing of the guard, here. malenkov , Karlof1 , Bevin , James , etc.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 17:33 utc | 344

Pacifica Advocate @ 344
Your comments were fine.
Respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 4 2024 17:39 utc | 345

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 17:23 utc | 343
…………..
You are being extremely childish.
I said I was not an ‘esoteric Christian’. Nor am I a Southerner etc. Like I said before, rein in your distorted projections.

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 4 2024 17:59 utc | 346

>>>>I find when people provoke violence, both physically or through prose (calling someone a Nazi, is ‘violent prose’, in my book)
>>>>@ Canuck (who cares?)
So what you’re saying is that if something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies like a duck, and has feathers that resemble a duck, then:
The rest of the world should pretend as if the testimony of these reliable witnesses are entirely unreliable, because all of us should ignore the fact that it’s a duck because some person did something to offend a greater person, in your constrained and shallow little world, that you consider momviolent.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 18:12 utc | 347

I find when people provoke violence, both physically or through prose (calling someone a Nazi, is ‘violent prose’, in my book)
>>>>@ Canuck (who cares?)
So what you’re saying is that if something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies like a duck, and has feathers that resemble a duck, then:
The rest of the world should pretend as if the testimony of these reliable witnesses are entirely unreliable, because all of us should ignore the fact that it’s a duck because some person did something to offend a greater person, in your constrained and shallow little world, that you consider momviolent.
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 18:12 utc | 347
Well you don’t care, I got that part: but I do.
You have lost credibility in my estimation and I won’t be the only one whom degrades your stock. How can you have discussion and promote thought when one casually throws out these type of intellectual crude bombs?
What I do see, and you perhaps should be more introspective that Nazi and Far Left are ostensibly the same in accent as both are violent, repressive systems where no real discussion is allowed; things are permitted.
In my opinion left and right is a fiction. They come together at the top of the circle these repressive systems; whose meaner a Nazi or a Wokester -one sells that Aryans are superior, the other that a man can have a baby?
The political center -less government- is where the sweet spot removed from both extremes.
So dear Pacifica avocado when you are calling another a ‘Nazi” you are but projecting your own repressed view of the world; indeed, ironically, you are calling yourself a Nazi.

Posted by: canuck | Feb 4 2024 18:44 utc | 348

A changing of the guard, here. malenkov , Karlof1 , Bevin , James , etc.
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 17:33 utc | 344
____
Oh dear!
To be counted in the same company as bevin and karlof1 is an undeserved honor: they are giants measured against my occasional and relatively puny insights. As for james, he contributes more in the way of insights than I do, and — I say this without any irony — seems to be a considerably nicer guy. 🙂

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 4 2024 18:46 utc | 349

Any guess who that might be?
Posted by: SlowDL | Feb 4 2024 15:34 utc | 324
………………….
Like so many childish ad hominemers here you lack reading skills. You focus on the ones being lied about. My point suggested that the ones doing the demonizing are the ones who deserve more scrutiny. So now you can answer the right question rather than the wrong one you asked me.
I read in a comment thread the other day about how it has been determined that a significant majority of people have the mental age of twelve year olds. I immediately felt that statement true given how often that level mentality is displayed here by so many little intolerant speech fascists.

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 4 2024 18:50 utc | 350


Or in Other Words:
LOL muthafuckin LOL!

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 19:44 utc | 351

I put a lot of time into researching the roots of the “ME conflict” back in the early 2000s, and I still believe that we’re focusing on the “bad dog” while letting the dog’s owners off the hook.
Being the “Bad Dog” of the Anglo-American empire has not been an easy job.
IMHO, the the Israeli lobby’s existence is, in part, necessary to obscure the fact that it is the Anglo-sphere’s bankers and the MIC that actually govern the empire, not its supposedly “democratically-elected governments”.
This has been a messy arrangement, and even though what passes for “our government” is expressing dismay, it’s the “empire” that is actually in control, and as far as the “empire” is concerned, the “Bad Dog” is performing as designed.
Here is my take as of June 2010, still worth noting;

If we’re ever to effectively address the issue of peace in the Middle East, we’re going to have to disabuse ourselves of the foolish notion that Israel somehow controls the governments of Britain and the United States.
It would be more correct to say that the governments of Great Britain, and the USA, who for the purposes of this diary, I’ll refer to as the Anglo-American empire, control Israel.
These governments control Israel; they just don’t control Israel any more than necessary.

What I seek to make clear by explaining this history is that Israel’s interests, and those of what I call the Anglo-American Empire, do not neatly coincide.

The years leading up to the First World War saw the development of a consensus on the part of Britain and the USA that maintaining naval supremacy in the future depended on the superior speed of warships fueled by oil instead of coal.*
Britain’s logical source for this vital fuel was the middle east, a region then stirring with the dawning of a Pan-Arab nationalism that threatened to unite the region and thus complicate future British access and control of it’s oil resources.
Britain’s, two-pronged solution to continued control of middle eastern oil was on the one hand, investment in a controlling interest in the fledgling *Anglo-Persian Oil Co. and on the other, a cynical partnership with idealistic Zionist organizations who dreamed of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, and were open to a deal that would simultaneously grant their dreams of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, and Great Britain a perpetual proxy in a region vital to it’s strategic interests.
Britain’s plan to retain access to middle-eastern oil resources would ultimately require it to double-cross the Arabs, to whom independence had been promised in return for their help in defeating the Ottoman Turks during WWI. (Remember Lawrence of Arabia?)
Instead of granting Arab independence after the Turks were defeated, Britain and France partitioned much of the middle-east resulting in the French controlled French Mandate of Syria and the British control of the British Mandate of Palestine which included Palestine, and the land east of the Jordan river known as Transjordan.
The British Mandate of Palestine was ultimately divided between the new nations of Israel and Jordan in 1947 and the region has been locked in deadly dispute ever since.

*FUEL AND THE BATTLE FLEET: COAL, OIL,
AND AMERICAN NAVAL STRATEGY, 1898-1925

Posted by: Watt4Bob | Feb 4 2024 19:54 utc | 352

@canuck:
You’re done. There’s a big FU swirling around in the back-grill of home life awaiting you.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 20:00 utc | 353

“violent prose”? is that like using the wrong pronoun or something?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 4 2024 20:20 utc | 354

Ha! I knew that post would draw them out. First off, my children are Hispanic. I am married to a Hispanic immigrant woman. Though my children are white skinned, blonde and blue eyed. They are Hispanic. Up until the point where they kill Trayvon Martin in self defense, of course. Then the media will label them as white or white hispanic or whatever.
It’s very telling that leftists think that all Hispanics look like Mexicans and eat tacos. Hispanics are very diverse. From the black Africans of the Dominican Republic to the blonde haired blue eyed Hispanics of Argentina. Who is the ignorant one here? Who is the racist one here?
As for the Jewish issue. Until lately I never paid any mind to Israel and Jews until this latest genocide of the Sunni Palestinians. I am very sensitive to this issue because of what my government had me do to the Muslims. I have a lot of guilt.
So I started doing research. I found Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate and Ron Unz amongst others. These are some of the most vociferous and effective people speaking out against the Israeli genocide. And then I find out they are Jews.
So my apologies to the good Jews. I am ignorant of the Jewish people. I will continue my research and maybe partner up with you to stop the harm. No people are monolithic.
As for the women, blacks and trannies. You want to go to war? You want to declare white heterosexual males as the enemy? You want to drive us out of the ranks? Fine.
We were doing you all a great favor by volunteering to fight and die on the battlefield to protect your freedoms. You want us out. We’re out. Give it a shot. You fight for us for a change. You continually say that diversity is our strength. Let’s see if diversity prevails.
In the meantime my White/Hispanic children will get our popcorn, sit back and enjoy the shitshow. Celebrate your DEI, because you are definitely going to DIE.

Posted by: RLTW | Feb 4 2024 20:26 utc | 355

For those who haven’t been keeping track, shadowspammer and canuck began their trolling at about the same time; October of last year. Of course, this makes sense because if a troll sticks its face into a room, its ass is soon to follow.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 4 2024 20:28 utc | 356

Posted by: ryanggg | Feb 4 2024 8:11 utc | 276
I’m fine with that statement. But there are PLENTY of Whites who do. Willingly and gladly. Same for Blacks and any historically poor or lower class people in the Empire.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 4 2024 21:20 utc | 357

For those who haven’t been keeping track, shadowspammer and canuck began their trolling at about the same time; October of last year. Of course, this makes sense because if a troll sticks its face into a room, its ass is soon to follow.
Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 4 2024 20:28 utc | 356
I’m pretty sure canuck has been around for years. Or am I confusing them with someone else?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 4 2024 21:36 utc | 358

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 4 2024 21:36 utc | 358
I don’t remember him. Of course, he could have had a different handle.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 4 2024 21:44 utc | 359

Wow. This is sad.
I am commenting about the name calling and abuse. It is sad and stupid.
MoA is the only sane place for political conversations that I have found.
Please don’t disrespect Mr.b’s establishment.
This stupidity seems to be intended to discredit MoA. It should be called out and hopefully stopped.

Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 4 2024 22:12 utc | 360

Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 4 2024 22:12 utc | 360
Absolutely agree although I think calling out obvious trolls is wise because they can influence newcomers.
Some of the petty fights here are ridiculous.

Posted by: watcher | Feb 4 2024 22:16 utc | 361

Posted by: watcher | Feb 4 2024 22:16 utc | 361
I think there is some disagreement over who is an “obvious troll”, and how people should respond to intellectual dishonesy.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 4 2024 22:35 utc | 362

@canuck:
You’re done. There’s a big FU swirling around in the back-grill of home life awaiting you.
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 20:00 utc | 353

The studious rejection , by almost everyone..

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 22:48 utc | 363

I am not telling anyone not to engage with trolls. If you want to argue with a committee of assholes using Large Language Models to quickly whip up trolling spam to flood the forum with, then have at it. I have no intention of stopping you. I’m just pointing out the frauds for those who would rather not waste their time.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 4 2024 22:50 utc | 364

“We were doing you all a great favor by volunteering to fight and die on the battlefield to protect your freedoms.”
Posted by: RLTW | Feb 4 2024 20:26 utc | 355
can’t get more diametrically opposed to truth and intelligence than that blind nonsense

Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Feb 4 2024 23:07 utc | 365

Hold my beer.
@ Posted by: RLTW | Feb 4 2024 20:26 utc | 355
“would draw them out”
– Who’s the ‘them’ ?Are ‘them’ in the room with us now?
“leftists”
– Wtf is that, in your book? The only definition of a leftist I accept that I might be is an anti Nazi. A hater of fascism. Which is the trait you are showing – that’s why I have picked you out of all the other mindfuckers here. Your bs fascist underwear is showing dude!
We are ALL going to die btw. Also , don’t ascribe opinions I haven’t stated.
There is much more you should learn, if you want to be genuine.
You went mighty quick from all your ills being about all ‘Jews’ to suddenly discovering ‘good jews’!
Wow. That’s just a matter of hours – genius!
I’m not here to bust your chops. It’s a talking shop. Robust conversation is fine. But any whiff of fascism gets my heckles up – I take no prisoners.
To which point let’s just check where you are on the ‘fascist spectrum’
“women, blacks and trannies.”
– jeez you do like grouping biological sexes, ethnicities and self identity together. Did you come to that grouping based on your own experience? Or are you just repeating dumb fascist doggerel? How many of those peoples have you actually known personally , to have formed your opinion?
“We were doing you all a great favor “
– Wtff you now ripping off Jack Nicholson’s Colonel Jessup speech ! Are you for fucking real? Why not just quote it in full you utilitarian wall guard? Against whom? Who is attacking you? All I ever see is you and all the Jessie’s striding the world far from their own homes attacking everyone else! But no , like a cry baby, toddler tantruming Yankee Doodle you really believe it’s you that’s the victim! No one asked you to go do any killing of brown , black or whatever tinged peoples with whatever coloured eyes.
Which again brings us back to your :
“my children are white skinned, blonde and blue eyed.”
– So put it this way , would you rate them less white if they didn’t look so white, or blonde, or blue eyed? What if they looked like Jennifer Lopez ? Or Halle Berry or Beyoncé?
What if they hadn’t been born so Not black? Would you hate your kids as much as the racism you have towards blacks?
What will happen if one of your lillywhite pretend aryan babies grows up and wants to be homosexual or trans or whatever ? Will you wish you’d drowned them like unwanted kittens at birth?
& so the answer to your question:
“Who is the ignorant one here? Who is the racist one here?”
Is:
– That’s still YOU kiddo , with your pretend ptsd , wholly your own responsibility, not mine, not the rest of the worlds.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 5 2024 7:27 utc | 366

(oh brother)

Posted by: Featherless | Feb 5 2024 7:57 utc | 367