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February 3, 2024
Ending The U.S. Presence In Middle East

The Biden administration, in its utter stupidity, is launching a(nother) full fledged war throughout the Middle East.

U.S. launches retaliatory strikes after deadly attack on Jordan baseWashington Post – Feb 3, 2024
The operation, targeting numerous sites in Iraq and Syria used by Iranian forces and its affiliates, followed the killing of American troops last weekend

> U.S. forces launched a broad attack against Iran’s powerful military wing and affiliated militias in Iraq and Syria on Friday, delivering a blow to armed groups that Washington has blamed for killing American troops in Jordan and a surge of violence across the Middle East. <

Daniel McAdams @DanielLMcAdams – 11:01 UTC · Feb 3, 2024

The Biden Administration just literally just blew up all the weapons of the Iraqi brigade that was fighting ISIS!
Let that sink in…

Hawkeye1812Z @Hawkeye1745 22:09 UTC · Feb 2, 2024

🇺🇸💥🇮🇶Footage shows the explosions of the headquarters of the Anbar Operation Command & the headquarters of the 13th Hashd al-Sha’bi Brigade, after it was targeted by US raids, in the Anbar province of Iraq

That is is unit which is fighting ISIS … 🤔
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Secretary Antony Blinken @SecBlinken – 21:01 UTC · Feb 2, 2024

I am returning to the Middle East this coming week to continue working with our partners on how to achieve durable peace in the region, with lasting security for Israelis and Palestinians alike.

President Biden @POTUS – 22:45 UTC · Feb 2, 2024

Today, at my direction, U.S. military forces struck targets in Iraq and Syria that the IRGC and affiliated militia use to attack U.S. forces.

We do not seek conflict in the Middle East or anywhere else in the world.

But to all those who seek to do us harm: We will respond.

Elijah J. Magnier @ejmalrai – 14:11 UTC · Feb 3, 2024

The US: We don't want to escalate the war in the ME, but we bombed Yemen & killed 10 Yemenis, we bombed Syria & Iraq & killed 16 Iraqis, 7 Syrians, but please de-escalate coz we will bomb you more in the coming days. In the meantime we are sending bombs to Israel to bomb Gaza.

In 2020, after the U.S. assassination of General Qassam Suleimani, the leadership of Iran announced that, in consequence, the U.S. presence in the Middle East will be ended. Iran and its allies have since diligently prepared themselves to achieve that aim.

The hot phase of the process itself was initiated primarily by Hamas on October 7 (which followed the October 2 desecration of Al-Aqsa Mosque by Zionist settlers). The secondary and tertiary steps were launched by Ansarollah in Yemen and Kataib Hizbullah in Iraq.

In each cases the U.S. and its Israeli proxy responded with harsh escalations.

It was the biggest mistake they could make.

agitpapa @agitpapa – 15:07 UTC · Feb 3, 2024

Harakat al Nujaba PMF declares that it will not be defeated or subdued by US airstrikes and vows to teach the US humility with fire, says it has surprises in store.
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Syrian military statement: US occupation cannot persistAl Mayadeen – Feb 3, 2024
In its statement, Syria's military emphasizes that the US is working on reviving ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

> The statement also affirmed that the Syrian army will continue to defend Syria's land and people, and strike all terrorist groups, regardless of how much their sponsors and supporters try to obstruct this goal. It added that it is determined to liberate the entire Syrian territory from all terrorism and occupation, including the US occupation which "cannot persist." <

The Axis of Resistance is present throughout the Middle East. It has its own economic and social networks. It produces its own weapons and its fighters are well trained to fight under the local circumstances. This is an enemy the U.S. can not defeat.

As Aaron Maté explains:

These groups’ decision to strike US forces in response to the Gaza genocide follows a well-entrenched pattern of resisting joint US-Israeli aggression, or what the Journal describes as efforts to “push back against American and Israeli influence” in the Middle East. And contrary to US claims that Iran’s main regional allies – Hezbollah in Lebanon, Ansar Allah in Yemen (the Houthis), the PMU in Iraq, Hamas/Islamic Jihad in Palestine, and the Syrian government — are all mere Iranian “proxies”, these groups “have domestic agendas of their own and operate with some measure of autonomy,” the Journal notes. US intelligence analyst Brian Katz concurs. Iran’s allies “are no longer simply Iranian proxies,” Katz writes. “Rather, they have become a collection of ideologically aligned, militarily interdependent, mature political-military actors committed to mutual defence.”

The conflict has boiling on a low flame for some time:

As the Washington Post notes, Iranian allies in the region “began targeting U.S. interests in 2018, after then-President Donald Trump withdrew the United States from a landmark nuclear deal with Tehran” as part of a hawkish policy of “maximum pressure.” Rather than return to the Iran nuclear deal upon taking office in January 2021, Biden continued the Trump agenda – and knowingly endangered US troops in the process.

When Biden “ordered airstrikes on militia groups” in Syria, the Washington Post reported in August 2021, that ended up “sparking a fresh cycle of reciprocal violence, with militiamen firing at a facility housing U.S. troops and American forces responding with artillery fire.” Biden’s support for Israeli aggression against Syria yielded the same result. When a drone strike hit a US military base located in southern Syria in October 2021, US and Israeli officials acknowledged that it was “Iranian retaliation for Israeli airstrikes in Syria,” the New York Times reported.

In launching and encouraging attacks on Iranian allies in the region, Biden was pursuing an arrangement that he forged with the Israeli government In August 2021, then-Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett urged Biden to pursue “a death by a thousand cuts” strategy, in which the US and Israel would “[counter] Iran through a combination of many small actions across several fronts — both military and diplomatic — instead of a single dramatic strike,” Axios reported. The goal would be to put Iran’s “regional aggression” – a euphemism for resisting US-Israeli hegemony – “back in the box.” Toward that goal, one of Bennett’s key requests was that “Biden not to pull U.S. forces out of Iraq and Syria,” which the Israeli delegation felt quite “optimistic” about. In Biden, Bennett gushed, “I found a leader who loves Israel, knows exactly what he wants and is attuned to our needs.”

In opposite to those plans it is the Resistance which is using small and increasingly larger cuts to eliminate, over time, the U.S. presence in the Middle East. It is dead serious.

As Aleks of Black Mountain Analysis writes:

I would like to ask you now to understand the following: It is not what I want or my opinion; it is the ice-cold reality: On October 7th, a war was started by the Axis of Resistance. It was started against both Israel and the Western occupation of the Middle East. As stated above, it will not end before all occupation forces are out of the Middle East, the Two State Solution has been implemented in Israel, or all people in the Middle East are dead … period.

I have no emotions here; I’m not invested in the region. This is a logical assessment of what is currently happening in the region. It is not going to stop until one of the scenarios is implemented.

Other interested powers are already positioning themselves for a new situation in the Middle East.

Give it two, three or maybe even five years. But the envisioned results WILL be achieved.

Comments

I think we should look to ukraine and syria as examples of what a modern all out war would look like.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Feb 3 2024 18:59 utc | 87
This makes no sense. Neither of these is a modern all out war. These are both deliberately contained conflicts that both sides wish to avoid escalating into all out war.

Posted by: Honzo | Feb 3 2024 19:26 utc | 101

by NemesisCalling | Feb 3 2024 19:00 utc | 88
“Q-anon” is the same COINTELPRO operation that Hoover started to “combat” racism and a KKK.
It is always very vague, with an intent to keep the panic under the control, but alive.
“In ten to fifteen days, the Deep State will…”
…says the Deep State.

Posted by: whirlX | Feb 3 2024 19:27 utc | 102

“Where is Biden and Blinken getting their idea that Iran is to blame…”
Posted by lester
Neocon-dominated think tanks are where foreign policy originates from.

Posted by: norecovery | Feb 3 2024 19:37 utc | 103

“Why is the fourth option always dismissed? That option being the “One State Solution”, where that state is a modern, secular and pluralist one with equal rights for all?”
Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 3 2024 17:07 utc | 27
I noticed that william. Both sides will only accept a one state solution. Yet here we have another example of the two-state solution still being pushed.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Feb 3 2024 19:07 utc | 91

It is not so much what “both sides” will accept, as it is the nature of both sides — their histories, and the nature of the struggle. If you accept that the Zionist project is a settler-colonialist one that continues to massacre the indigenous people so long as it survives, then the two “solutions” or outcomes is historically the only possible ones: the defeat of the Zionist project (any x-state “solution” will be temporary on the way to whatever), *xor* the defeat of the resistance and genocide of the peoples of the region.
p.s. The quoted text talks of 2 solutions.

Posted by: SlowDL | Feb 3 2024 19:42 utc | 104

psychohistorian | Feb 3 2024 19:24 utc | 98
I looked up Akashat. Its indicated by the circle on the map on a main highway on the Iraq side of the Syrian desert or at least the section of the desert ISIS operates in.
It seems US is concentrating its strikes on the Iraq and Syrian forces that are stationed to contain the Tanf ISIS grouping in the desert around their US base.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 19:52 utc | 105

One day our children will be taught about Suleimani.
For now I have to wait till they say something stupid about trump then try and gradually steer the conversation…

Posted by: Rae | Feb 3 2024 19:56 utc | 106

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 3 2024 19:00 utc | 88
Absolutely.
I have been sure of that Q is a US spy ops for some time.

Posted by: watcher | Feb 3 2024 19:59 utc | 107

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 3 2024 17:49 utc | 55
Yes, this site and its infuriated community are an example that there is the will to critique and act. Liberal democracies and parliamentary systems are designed to suppress real dissent or else dissipate opposition into its politics, which either neutralises it or mobilises it against itself. Late stage financialised capitalism will, however, force the change first. Populations never instigate change, they react to it. That’s when we’ll see the tsunami, the implosion of all that New Deal energy, built and contained from 1935-1980, hollowed out by Thatcher and Reagan, et al., now in tatters. The USA will collapse at home before it collapses abroad. In fact parts of its empire will outlive it. But the world is waking up, they’re suspicious, the rhetoric of the American century rings hollow. All it has left now is force, an outmoded dated style of force.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 3 2024 20:00 utc | 108

Ahenobarbus, The American public already have more than one vehicle. Jill Stein and Cornell West are both running for the presidency, and they both oppose the genocide.
I have already voted twice for Stein, in 2012 and 2016, and I guess I am going to do so again.

Posted by: Lysias | Feb 3 2024 20:00 utc | 109

“Saying the US does not seek conflict in the middle east is like saying the Kardashians do not seek attention. It’s like saying Jeff Bezos doesn’t seek money….”
– Caitlan Johnstone, Australian blogger/writer

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 3 2024 20:06 utc | 110

Posted by: Lysias | Feb 3 2024 20:00 utc | 108
Same here, gotta go with Cornel this time though. Voted for Nader 96 through 04, Gary Johnson in 08, Green since then.
But, let’s not forget the electoral college scam is in place to suppress any majority vote that goes against the bankster/zionist/MIC powers.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 3 2024 20:06 utc | 111

I have started watching a Teaching Company course about the Spanish Civil War on DVDs. The situation in Spain leading up to that war reminds me very much of the situation here in the US today: two sides each of which hates the other and regards it as illegitimate.

Posted by: Lysias | Feb 3 2024 20:07 utc | 112

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 3 2024 17:27 utc | 41
They should have asked him about the genocide in Gaza, because I’m about 101% sure he supports the Zionist settler colonial apartheid project and thus any means “necessary” to bring it fully into being, i.e., the genocide and/or ethnic cleansing of the Levant for the Zionists.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2024 20:10 utc | 113

Posted by: jef | Feb 3 2024 16:16 utc | 11
Jef said:
‘I honestly don’t know how or even if I can reconcile the fact that the Palestinians and the rest of the Axis of Resistance chose this method of going forward knowing/accepting the massive death and destruction that would result.
I understand that death and destruction has been a part of life for a very long time but it still seems super extreme and there had to be some alternative ways to accomplish the same result. ….’
————–
This is precisely the attitude that is leading to the destruction of the Zio-hijacked US, and by extension, the world that is persecuted by them. This ‘well, we’ll be patient and vote ’em out next election’ when we all know the election system is rigged and utterly fraudulent. Meanwhile then increase the oppressive controls and extortion of THE PEOPLE. Worse, they happily create deep enduring hatred around the world by killing and usurping in THE PEOPLE’s name. On top of this, with this attitude we sit by while more tgan 20 million invade the USA on the southern border. War is coming to the Inited States of America. THE PEOPLE *will* prevail, but it will be a bloody war. The tyrants will lose badly.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Feb 3 2024 20:11 utc | 114

isis leader simon shimon elliot elliot shimon albagdaddy was mossad isis is cia,mi6 and mossad amman groups.
you can find footage of field hospitals idf full of isis being patched up and bb nuttyyahu walking around talking to his gang and counter gang frank kitson teams.
in years of arab slaughter the one time isis sent a missile into israel by mistake they said sorry.
of course the talmoodick satanist sabbatean frankist bombed the iraqi pmu
oded yinon is a big idea it always moves forward

Posted by: todd | Feb 3 2024 20:17 utc | 115

Lysias@ 108
hedlykarok @ 110
There are better options for President see:
Independent
https://shiva4president.com/about-shiva/
Democrat
https://dev.marianne2024.com/

Posted by: krollchem | Feb 3 2024 20:22 utc | 116

Funny thing I’ve noticed. These righteously religious Zionists who think God gave them the property deeds to the entire Middle East, and who also boast that they have God’s most bodacious blessings because they are the only recipients and keepers of the most sacred laws, nonetheless commit murder with wild abandon and not only that, they do it on the Sabbath. Aren’t they supposed to be in shul or something?
Must be some divine dispensation in Leviticus that I missed, because they sure don’t take Saturdays off.

Posted by: Teri | Feb 3 2024 20:23 utc | 117

🇺🇸🏴‍☠️🇮🇱 The U.S. House of Representatives will vote next week on a bill on $17.6 billion in aid to Israel without additional money for 🇺🇦 Ukraine – Speaker Mike Johnson

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/98798

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 3 2024 20:25 utc | 118

@ krollchem
I love Shiva! Hands down best campaign spot of all time…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlrEUfOPxwA
But I have been an admirer of Cornel for decades. If anyone can claim the righteous legacy of Ralph Nader it is him.

Posted by: hedlykarok | Feb 3 2024 20:28 utc | 119

I think it is just about money for the US, or rather the fat corporations running it. I don’t even think they care much how it’s sold to the public, or to anyone else. War is a racket, as the old saying goes, and and they’re milking it as long and as hard as they can. Probably stashing away the profits, hoping the gravy train will run on, and betting the farm on that neither the Russians or the Chinese will be mad enough to start WWIII.

Posted by: Katharina | Feb 3 2024 20:30 utc | 120

@ paxmark1 | Feb 3 2024 18:22 utc | 71
thanks for that and those insights from the past.. i agree – someone concerned over people starving gets my vote of support..
@ Diogenes | Feb 3 2024 18:42 utc | 80
thanks for that as well..
@ Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 18:47 utc | 81
in terms of the recognition of the importance of oil back in 1919 – i think it was known of the importance of this commodity and how it would become increasingly important – but i am not an authority on this, and have to defer to others who might be.. i still think carving up the middle east heavily factored this in.. i recall how the southern part of saudi arabia – was taken from yemen due the oil and that happened in 1923 as memory serves, so i think they were well aware of these oil assets and the value of them back then.. the idea of a state of israel was really promoted by the british long before the usa… the usa came in after ww2 as the new world leader and also supported zionism in the form of support for israel..
@ Zet | Feb 3 2024 18:53 utc | 84
propaganda matrix is a good name for it…
@ Lysias | Feb 3 2024 20:00 utc | 108
they are quite far off the radar and hardly anyone would know about that, but kudos for you for taking a different approach to the 2 party thing..

Posted by: james | Feb 3 2024 20:37 utc | 121

Thanks, b.
Good for RFKjr.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 3 2024 21:00 utc | 122

It will all get better with Trump LOL. I understand that with close to a 100 legal cases against him just in time for the election, there is a concerted effort to keep Trump out, and he is kndewd some kind of hero in pushing bck, but as soon as you mention Qassem Suleimani, as b does here, you should think of Trump, who got this whole shitshow going. What was the point in that killing anyway?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 3 2024 21:16 utc | 123

“RFK Jr is a rabid zionist.”
Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 3 2024 17:44 utc | 51
Thanks for dropping by.
Do you think these candidates will become a tenant of the White House without the approval of AIPAC?
They all are —– current crop of candidates bending the knee, including Trump; who under the direct influence of a son-in-law gave away what was not his to give..the name of which starts with a G as in Golan Heights, Syria.
And Bobby Kennedy Jr. well; he was refused secret service(ss) protection and his late Dad and Uncle, under the SS protection, were given an ERP -eternal retirement plan – they could not refuse. It is proffered JFK was not subservient enough to the “Chosen ones.” Was it one or two bullets at Grassy Knoll?

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 3 2024 21:17 utc | 124

Head of UN agency for Palestinians defies Israeli calls to quit
UNRWA chief seeks emergency funding from Gulf after crisis sparked by claims staff took part in Hamas attack
(FT)

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 3 2024 21:21 utc | 125

james | Feb 3 2024 20:37 utc | 120
I just checked on a few dates as I had read about it in the past. Oil first discovered in Persia 1909 – Anglo Persian oil company, and first discovered in Saudi Arabia in 1938.
I believe US had rich oilfields for the time prior to WWII, but WWII made them realize they needed large strategic supplies going into the future. There was a meeting on a boat, either in or at the end of WWII between Roosevelt and the head Saudi of the day. I would have to look it up again but others here may have read of that and have a better recollection.
I assume at that time, the Brits already controlled the Persian oil so the Americans went for the Saudi oil which was newly discovered.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 21:23 utc | 126

Statements of The Elders have been ignored by the MSM
https://theelders.org/news-insight

Posted by: Minaa | Feb 3 2024 21:26 utc | 127

William Gruff | Feb 3 2024 17:07 utc | 27
Why is the fourth option always dismissed
Well, because if things were handled fairly and rightly, the one state in the one state solution could not be called Israel.
I think the dismissal of Israel is mostly a psychological hurdle.
God knows, there are plenty of countries that yielded much sooner.

Posted by: john | Feb 3 2024 21:27 utc | 128

Posted by: Minaa | Feb 3 2024 21:26 utc | 126
Whew. You scared me for a second there. I thought it was a link to another Protocols treatise.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2024 21:29 utc | 129

AmeriKKKa = Israel’s conveniently dopey bull in the ME china shop.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 3 2024 21:30 utc | 130

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 17:39 utc | 48

US airstrikes in Syria Iraq, from a map I saw look to be concentrated in the corridor between Tanf/ISIS held territory and the Euphrates.
It looks like the Americans are trying to build a land corridor from at-Tanf to the Euphrates. Over the years, a lot of the sporadic airstrikes have been in that area, basically I assume, to assist their ground force which is ISIS…

I used to believe this was the plan during the civil war.
If you recall 2017, British and US special forces were harassing Syrian forces as they were pushing toward the Iraqi border. When government forces got too close, they got bombed and the fate of Al Tanf was sealed. However, had they not raced north toward Abukamal, Syria and Iraq might not be sharing a border today.
I wonder if there are regular forces, Syrian and Iraqi, respectively in Abukamal and Al Qaim.

Posted by: robin | Feb 3 2024 21:31 utc | 131

“The Biden Administration just literally just blew up all the weapons of the Iraqi brigade that was fighting ISIS!
Let that sink in…”
And this is strange because? ISIS is and always was an American foreign legion.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 3 2024 16:56 utc | 23
And that brigade, the 13th Liwa al-Ghaliboun, was already marked for pay-back for hitting not only the ISIS proxies but US personnel directly (and there is a “coincidence” with the last successful attack “while U.S. defensive systems were deactivated and killed one U.S. contractor and injured six U.S. persons.”)
The January 20, 2023, Qasef-2K attack on Al-Tanf (claimed under the Nujaba-linked brand Tashkil al-Waritheen) was followed by a March 23, 2023, triple-Qasef-2K strike on a U.S. base in Hasakah, Syria, which struck while U.S. defensive systems were deactivated and killed one U.S. contractor and injured six U.S. persons. The March 23 attack was claimed by a new brand, Liwa al-Ghaliboun (Brigade of the Victors), which Militia Spotlight assesses to be linked to Nujaba and very similar in its use as the Tashkil al-Waritheen brand.

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 3 2024 21:34 utc | 132

US forces have carried out a second phase of air strikes in response to the deaths of three American troops in Jordan last weekend, this time in Yemen where Iranian-backed Houthis have wreaked havoc on commercial shipping.
(FT just now)

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 3 2024 21:40 utc | 133

Posted by: ld | Feb 3 2024 16:27 utc | 13
The Battle Hymn of the Hegemon: such frivolous nonsense, but — oh! — so perfectly to the point!
A million thanks!

Posted by: RJPJR | Feb 3 2024 21:41 utc | 134

Thought I would check-in and see how the impotent MoA Circle Jerkers were doing. Alas, just more pseudo-intellectual braying at the Moon.
Here is a truth bomb, your anger is being directed at the wrong entities on purpose.
The ancient enemy of Free Men are the Freemasons. Freemasons are located in all countries. By the way, Putin is a Freemason, so is Zelensky. Look for photos of both throwing masonic symbols.
So keep braying at the moon and remain ignorant.

Posted by: Real Realism | Feb 3 2024 21:43 utc | 135

In mammoth newspapers offices there are two or three floors, hundreds of cubicles, a dozen corner offices, boardroom, IT staff, secretaries with countless other apparchicks in various parts of the world with similar offices communicating together; and , yet, b, I don’t think he even has a staff (?), delivers comprehensive ,prompt news coverage with pithy editorials, that are , for the most part, more accurate, bet then the former.
It speaks for the resourcefulness of b, of course; but it also illustrates the intellectual, cultural and moral entropy of traditional media
I have to read ‘The Trial ” again by Franz Kafka-I don’t think I quite got it as a young man, but a cynical old one I may…

Posted by: canuck | Feb 3 2024 21:45 utc | 136

Why is the fourth option always dismissed? That option being the “One State Solution”, where that state is a modern, secular and pluralist one with equal rights for all?”
Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 3 2024 17:07 utc | 27
……………………………..
Because if more than 1% of that population is Zionist they will scheme to and eventually take it over.
As with Ukraine, only unconditional surrender will pave way towards a new paradigm. That must be first. Then occupation by superior forces. Then enforced peace for several generations. Then whatever…

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 3 2024 21:46 utc | 137

When you see anti Iran speak think anti Shi’a!
US and recently Israel have sided with Sunni against Shi’a and non Sunni Syrian government. Arab spring in Syria was US fund al Qaeda to oust non Sunni Assad. Daish had US support until it went off the ranch and established Caliphate where U.S. had used the Kurds to insurrection against Syria.
US and Sunni not on right side of trashing colonialism.
Posted by: paddy | Feb 3 2024 19:07 utc | 92
When you see anti Shi’a or anti Sunni speak think divide and conquer, think psychological warfare, think pathetic brainwashed political retards, and think anti Iran, anti resistance, pro genocide fascists!
US and recently Israel have killed more Sunni than Shi’a and non Sunni Syrian and other people of different ethnicities all over the Arab world. Arab spring in Syria was US fund al Qaeda to oust a nationalist Assad and partition and conquer a destroyed Syria. Daish is just another US sponsored project until it crushed by the Arab resistance, and the U.S. is using the Kurds to against Syria including the Syrian Kurdish people.
US and Israel are colonialism after its time, and their apologists are not on right side of trashing colonialism.
Posted by: paddy Edited by SlowDL free of charge.

Posted by: SlowDL | Feb 3 2024 21:47 utc | 138

Oil in the region didn’t really become strategic until the end of the second world war. Although the Americans were first to recognize the government of Israel and pushed that on the world via UN recognition, ties seemed somewhat loose until the seventies when US went from the gold backed dollar to the petro dollar. ….
US is an economic hegemon, the hegemony is based on the petro dollar and Persian gulf oil is central to the petro dollar.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 18:47 utc | 81

A few quibbles.
Petroleum became the preeminent resource during the time of the first notable Rockefeller, which era passed from well before WWI and conclusively concluded in the 20s. The British and Americans—as well as the Italians, Germans, and Russians—were all quite aware of the strategic need to control oil fields well early of 1937.
Also, there was a lot of division in the US regarding the Zionist project even among Jews right up until two things happened:
A) Kissinger brought China onside against Russia (early 70s), whereupon
B) The China Lobby collapsed, thereby robbing the MIC “security state” of its “Greatest Foe” going back to 1949, the year the New Deal began its absorption into the CIA/China Lobby.
Again, and I cannot emphasize this enough: the one point of agreement that the Kennedies’ assassins, FBI, CIA, corporate media (The Luces, the later Hearsts, the NYTimes/WaPo, et ilk) and MIA—as well as a lot of the Corporate-controlled judiciary and Senate—all shared via the China Lobby was the firm conviction that China had “been lost” due to Commie-bastard turncoats who had infiltrated the Dept of State (aka “Foggy Bottom”) and betrayed US political influence to empower the USSR in its takeover of China.
Obviously, in retrospect, this was a load of horseshit. Paton-Davies makes it all clear in his autobiography, and Tuchman made it equally clear in her biography of Stilwell (one of the top US patriots most deserving to be resurrected from ignominy if there ever was one).
FFS, Kissinger himself made it clear when he orchestrated a fateful turn of Mao away from the USSR—and yet for some odd reason (!) the US/uk “historians” failed to note how badly wrong the immediate post-history of WWII had been implied.
So now, to this present day, we are stuck with a bunch of paranoid delusions authored by 1950s US/uk and Italian/Nazi “intelligence services” forming the rhetorical base upon what our shared NATO “history” of WWII and its aftermath are founded upon.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 3 2024 21:48 utc | 139

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 21:23 utc | 125
The U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt meets with King Ibn Saud, of Saudi Arabia, on board the U.S. Navy heavy cruiser USS Quincy (CA-71) in the Great Bitter Lake, Egypt, on 14 February 1945.

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 3 2024 21:50 utc | 140

Nobody said patiently waiting for elections, thats BS.
The middle east and the entire global globe has the advantage, they are winning, have been winning for years. They have no reason to crank up the belligerence.
They have every reason to prepare and position themselves for the final push once the West starts pulling back, pulling out. Hell there is even alot that they can do to encourage this process without throwing thousands, millions of palestinians into the meat grinder.
No, this is the collective west and mostly israel behind all this latest escalation.
In fact I would go so far as to say it is raceist to assume that “oh, of course the Arab Muslims are happy to die as martyrs for the cause. Its what they do, BS!

Posted by: jef | Feb 3 2024 21:50 utc | 141

Putin is a Freemason, so is Zelensky. Look for photos of both throwing masonic symbols.
So keep braying at the moon and remain ignorant.
Posted by: Real Realism | Feb 3 2024 21:43 utc | 134
Thanks for dropping by and for the potent message. Is Putin still alive?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 3 2024 21:52 utc | 142

It feels as though every adjective in the MSM has been replaced with ‘Iranian-backed’.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 3 2024 21:55 utc | 143

American isn’t leaving the Middle East any time soon. Just today, the US and the UK launched fresh attacks against the rebels in Yemen (coming off the attacks in Iraq/Syria). They dropped massive 2k lbs bombs.

Posted by: bored | Feb 3 2024 21:56 utc | 144

“The Biden Administration just literally just blew up all the weapons of the Iraqi brigade that was fighting ISIS!”
Isn’t ISIS a Western funded proxy fighter group that the US/Nato deploys first to soften up any resistance to US/Western hegemony?

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 3 2024 21:57 utc | 145

I suspect the result will be a new world order with the US bloc controlling a smaller but substantial area facing off against a Eurasian bloc in a balance of power situation.
It’s doubtful a Hollywood esque Armageddon will be in anyone’s interest, therefore is unlikely.
Tactical nukes would be used but that isn’t going to lead to mass murder against civilian targets. The poor damned infantry will be taking and it dishing it out.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Feb 3 2024 18:59 utc | 87
And as someone said a decade ago “F*ck the EU!”
From 2050 to 2080 they’ll probably lose continental Europe (and try to recover it several times during following decades)
And then they’ll probably start having some trouble with Arab countries…
That only in your assessment “It’s doubtful a Hollywood esque Armageddon will be in anyone’s interest, therefore is unlikely.”. In the alternative scenario, as it’s likely a major harmonic, not a singly cycle crash like rome or bronze age civilization, it can go full nuclear exchange.

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 3 2024 22:00 utc | 146

@id #13
Very good song!

Posted by: Richard L | Feb 3 2024 22:01 utc | 147

It feels as though every adjective in the MSM has been replaced with ‘Iranian-backed’.
Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 3 2024 21:55 utc | 142
Actually most western journalists transcriptionists have separate keys on their gaming keyboards, each programmed with macros to spit out the following adjective replacements and noun modifiers with the stroke of a single key:
“Iran-backed”
“Unprovoked”
“Full-scale”
“Government officials requesting anonymity”

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2024 22:03 utc | 148

In fact I would go so far as to say it is raceist to assume that “oh, of course the Arab Muslims are happy to die as martyrs for the cause. Its what they do, BS!
Posted by: jef | Feb 3 2024 21:50 utc | 140
…………………
Possible that Israel pushed this to embroil the US in kinetics because the latter beginning to make noises about leaving Syria and Iraq.
‘Can’t have that now, can we, let’s stir up a little war, eh’!?

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 3 2024 22:12 utc | 149

1/ “…Neither of these is a modern all out war. These are both deliberately contained conflicts that both sides wish to avoid escalating into all out war.” Honzo | Feb 3 2024 19:26 utc | 100
That might just be what, in an age of nuclear proliferation, ‘modern all out wars’ have to be. Or to put in in another way: in an age of nuclear weapons war involving their usage-all out war- is impossible.
2/”…Populations never instigate change, they react to it…” Patroklos | Feb 3 2024 20:00 utc | 107
This is generally true. And has been historically. It bears on your discussion with Ahenobarbus above.
And you are, in a sense, both right: Ahenobarbus to insist that the ruling clasas has no mandate from the people for its policies. You in arguing that this does not amount to active or even latent opposition by the working class to the policies of the ruling class- their unrecognised enemy.
I would add two points to put this into context.
The first is that we live in an era in which the imploding of capitalism has the, often unrecognised, effect, of corrupting and collapsing the working class-potentially revolutionary- institutions which grew up within and around the dominant system. The obvious example being the Trade Unions which no longer work under the Wagner Act/Trade Disputes Act rules. The economy, with its precarities and gig delivery and warehouse jobs replacing the regular, often Unionised and always conditioned by Union contracts in their wages and conditions work in full time careers.
But it is equally true of the other working class institutions, from co-operatives to Labour Parties which grew up from and around the Unions. These institutions, particularly the reform parties, played important roles in shaping not just society but the parameters of political power within which the ruling class could operate.
Such things as pensions, free education, healthcare, both public and individual health sectors and the provision of social housing and the expectation of full employment, reduced the capacity of the ruling class to rule, just as strong unions in the factories and workshops reduced the powers of management.
In the era of de-industrialisation and neo-liberalism all the institutions, including that of
popular political education have rotted away- in the Imperial heartlands, which are also the old industrial countries.
Sixty years ago, while working class opposition to imperialist aggression could not be taken for granted it was always not much further away than a well organised locally based political campaign. That was certainly the story of the way in which opposition to US policies in SE Asia, developed: working people understood, from their experiences, as a class, as families, in the 1930s and the War, that the ruling class was not to be trusted and that constant vigilance was needed to curb their malign selfishness.
Such were the political bases of the mass parties and the mass movements, the CND in the UK for example and the recurring outbreak of political and “wildcat” strikes. Not to mention the proliferation of neo-communist political factions and ‘parties’ which for all their many faults mobilised significant sections of the people as they passed through the rrvolving doors of International Socialism, The Workers Revolutionary party, Militant and the various youth leagues (all examples from the UK)
The second point that I would make, after another morning of working to enrol public support for a Ceasefire in Gaza, is that the preconditions for the re-foundation of a radical mass movement, rooted in the masses themselves (and consequently inoculated against the sectarianism, egoism and careerism which had come to overwhelm, alongside historical developments, the “left’, reformism and the unions)
are more obvious than they have ever been. A few aspects of the situation which make this time particularly promising are popular use of and access to social media and computer technology (with or without the net), a greatly advanced level of general education including a widespread cynicism of the ruling class control of the media. And an understanding- from a point of view that is close to classic anarchism- of the limitations and dangers of the State. Finally the best aspect of feminism is that it has, truly liberated, half of the population from the informal but powerful rule that politics is best left to the ‘guys.’ Indeed in the modern situation the membership and leadership of groups like ours organising opposition to genocide is equally if not more likely to be organised and led by women.
I see that I have taken up an inordinate amount of space again! My apologies but sometimes discussing matters in depth saves an enormous amount of time and energy in the end.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 3 2024 22:14 utc | 150

The Ottoman Empire succeed Timurid (“Mongol”) empire which succeed Kublai Khan. In that period, Polo classified Armenia Minor and Armenia Major provinces of Turkomania.

Bordering upon Armenia, to the south west, are the districts of Mosul and Maredin, which shall be described hereafter, and many others too numerous to particularize. To the north lies Zorzania, near the confines of which there is a fountain of oil which discharges so great a quantity as to furnish loading for many camels [2]. The use made of it is not for the purpose of food, but as an unguent for the cure of cutaneous distempers in men and cattle, as well as other complaints; and it is also good for burning. In the neigbouring country no other is used in their lamps, and people come from distant parts to procure it. [Polo:36]

2. Springs of petroleum or earth (properly, rock) oil, are found in many parts of the world. The spring or fountain here spoken of is that of Baku in Shirvan, on the border of the Caspian. “Near to this place,” says John Cartwright, in what are termed the Preacher s Travels,” is a very strange and wonderful fountain under ground, out of which there springeth and issueth a marvellous quantity of black oyl, which serveth all parts of Persia to burn in their houses; and they usually carry it all over the country upon kine and asses, whereof you shall oftentimes meet three or four hundred in company.”—Oxford Coll. of Voyages , vol. i (vii.) p.731. Strahlenberg speaks of this as a spring of white naphtha, which he distinguishes from the black sort of bitumen; but the most satisfactory account of both white and black naphtha in this district is given by Kaempfer, in his Amoenitates Exoticae, p. 274-281.

Book II

Throughout this province there is found a sort of black stone, which they dig out of the mountains, where it runs in veins. When lighted, it burns like charcoal, and retains the fire much better than wood; insomuch that it may be pre served during the night, and in the morning be found still burn ing. These stones do not flame, excepting a little when first lighted, but during their ignition give out a considerable heat. It is true there is no scarcity of wood in the country, but the multitude of inhabitants is so immense, and their stoves and baths, which they are continually heating, so numerous, that the quantity could not supply the demand; for there is no person who does not frequent the warm bath at least three times in the week, and during the winter daily, if it is in their power. Every man of rank or wealth has one in his house for his own use; and the stock of wood must soon prove inadequate to such consumption; whereas these stories may be had in the greatest abundance, and at a cheap rate. [1]

1. This circumstantial account of the use made by the Chinese of pit or fossil coal, at a period when its properties were so little known in Europe, will deservedly be thought an interesting record of the fact, as well as a proof of undoubted genuineness and originality on the part of our author. " Les mines de charbon de pierre sont en si grande quantite dans les provinces," says Du Halde, " qu il n y a apparemment aucun royaume au monde, ou il y en ait tant, et de si abondantes. II s en trouve sans nombre dans les montagnes des provinces de Chen-si, de Chan-si, et de Pe-che-li: aussi s en sert-on pour tous les fourneaux des ouvriers, dans les cuisines de toutes les maisons, et dans les hypocaustes des chambres qu on allume tout 1 hyver. Sans un pareil secours, ces peuples auroient peine a vivre dans des pays si froids, ou le bois de chauffage est rare, et par consequent tres-cher." (Tom. i. p. 29.) Stoves," says Staunton, " are common in large buildings. They are fed from without with fossil coal, found plentifully in the neighbourhood." Vol. ii. p. 338. [Polo:215]

The 1928 Red Line Agreement

The 1928 Group Agreement (better known as the “Red Line” Agreement) was a deal struck between several American, British, and French oil companies concerning the oil resources within territories that formerly comprised the Ottoman Empire within the Middle East. The origins of the Red Line Agreement can be traced back to the initial formation of the Turkish Petroleum Company (TPC) in 1912.

STANDARD OIL COMPANY OF NEW JERSEY et al., Appts., v. UNITED STATES (1911): Taft 1909-1913

The TPC was formed as a joint venture between Royal Dutch/Shell, the Deutsche Bank, and the Turkish National Bank, in order to promote oil exploration and production within the Ottoman Empire. In March 1914, however, the British Government, which controlled the Turkish National Bank, managed to have its shares within the TPC transferred to the Anglo-Persian Oil Company. The following June, the Ottoman Grand Vizier promised an oil concession to the reconstituted TPC to develop oil fields within the Ottoman provinces of Baghdad and Mosul.
Seven Sisters
During World War I, the Allies expropriated Deutsche Bank’s share in the TPC and transferred them to the French Government during the San Remo Conference of 1920. At the time, Royal Dutch/Shell hoped that it could purchase the French Government’s shares so as to balance out Anglo-Persian’s 50% stake within the TPC. Prime Minister Raymond Poincaré of France, however, brushed aside any such suggestions, since he was determined to create an independent French oil company that could compete with major British and American oil companies, which became known collectively as the seven sisters. The seven sisters were the Standard Oil Company of New Jersey (later Exxon), the Standard Oil Company of New York (Socony, later Mobil, which eventually merged with Exxon), the Standard Oil Company of California (Socal, later renamed Chevron), the Texas Oil Company (later renamed Texaco), Gulf Oil (which later merged with Chevron), Anglo-Persian (later British Petroleum), and Royal Dutch/Shell.
[…]

Posted by: sln2002 | Feb 3 2024 22:17 utc | 151

Iraq is justifiably furious with the US and Jordan:
BREAKING:
⚡ Iraq is fed up with the traitor in Jordan
Iraq has suspended the export of subsidised oil to Jordan for its participation in air strikes on Iraqi soil, although Jordan has denied its involvement.
Megatron
@Megatron_ron
BREAKING:
⚡ 🇯🇴🇺🇸 Jordan bombed in Syria and Iraq alongside with the US
The Wall Street Journal revealed, on Saturday, that Jordan participated in the aggression launched by the United States of America on Iraq and Syria, last night.
The newspaper stated that “F-16s belonging to the Royal Jordanian Air Force participated in the US air raids on Iraq and Syria.”
Another funny thing, the US blew up the Iraqi military depot used to fight ISIS. Which is the US ally?
— Kathleen Tyson (@Kathleen_Tyson_) February 3, 2024
The US: We have informed Iraq about the strikes so we can avoid civilian casualties
Iraq: No you didn’t, you’re lying to the public to manufacture consent for an attack which violates international law and civilians have been killed
Iran: This will achieve nothing but…
— Tiberius (@ecomarxi) February 3, 2024
https://xymphora.blogspot.com/?zx=733dd8c0fa54076b

Posted by: Menz | Feb 3 2024 22:18 utc | 152

Speak for yourself, crypto Dem anti worker…
@ Ahenobarbus | Feb 3 2024 17:18 utc | 35

Another typically meaningless post from Ahenobarbus, who has acquired an inexpicable aversion to everything I write (even when paraphrasing MLK about “the greatest purveyor of terror in the world today — my own government”!)
This site has notably deteriorated into skin-deep flame-wars for the thin-skinned lately, and wildly off-kilter ad hominems such as Ahenobarbus’ do not help. That’s my only point in responding to manifestly irrelevant, childish invective. We can do better than this, folks. History makes mincemeat of your childish dichotomies.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 3 2024 22:19 utc | 153

Posted by: bevin | Feb 3 2024 22:14 utc | 149
No you can never take up too much space although breaking it into two parts might allow some of us when feeling lazy to read more of it – which we should!
You give me some optimism, something i have been short of lately.

Posted by: watcher | Feb 3 2024 22:21 utc | 154

Basically, antitrust action in the US domestic market encouraged Rockfeller and his cronies to seek off-shore production.

Posted by: sln2002 | Feb 3 2024 22:21 utc | 155

Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis
@DrLoupis
Microsoft has announced plans to disable the computers of people who share ‘non-mainstream’ content online, in an attempt to combat so-called ‘misinformation’ in the run-up to the 2024 election.
https://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/1753823918576607741

Posted by: Menz | Feb 3 2024 22:21 utc | 156

It feels as though every adjective in the MSM has been replaced with ‘Iranian-backed’.
Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 3 2024 21:55 utc | 142
It’s a change from Putin controlling everything 🙂 I see they have started adding in China at times so at least there is a bit of variety in the source of ultimate evil that must be fought.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 22:24 utc | 157

Sooo now
If the arabs dont stop them the americans and israelis take over teratory.
And
If the arabs do try and stop them the americans and israelies take over teratory.
Kind of ‘catch 22’
Now that was a prophtic book.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 3 2024 22:25 utc | 158

Saul Staniforth
@SaulStaniforth
Sky News reporter: “If people thought support for these marches would wane over time, they they’ll be very much mistaken today”
https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1753796979514053095

Posted by: Menz | Feb 3 2024 22:26 utc | 159

Ahenobarbus, The American public already have more than one vehicle. Jill Stein and Cornell West are both running for the presidency, and they both oppose the genocide.
I have already voted twice for Stein, in 2012 and 2016, and I guess I am going to do so again.
Posted by: Lysias | Feb 3 2024 20:00 utc | 108
In the unlikely event that either of those two gains the remotest possibility of being elected, you’ll have to do your due diligence. Cornell West is a Harvard/Princeton/Yale academic, who claims to be a socialist but defends DEI (because, why not, that’s how he got his job), has retailed Israeli lies about Hamas terrorism and has no clue about American foreign policy for the last century. He is completely contained by the ‘Academic’ culture.
Stein is anti-war, but she’s a bourgeois liberal and also a Harvard graduate. Her Green New Deal made no sense at all.
Neither of them have any institutional support whatsoever. Neither has the ability to push a cabinet officer through the confirmation process in the Senate. Neither has the support of the several layers below the cabinet that operate the federal bureaucracy in the interests of the ruling class. Just as Trump accomplished nothing that was not approved by the Deep State, and ‘accomplished’ many things he opposed; the very best case of Stein or West entering the White House is that the permanent bureaucracy of the Federal government simply ignores them and does what it was going to do anyway.
People have to stop wasting their time with savior candidates and get real about how to wrest power from the finance capital elites. Hint- elections aren’t going to do it until AFTER the power of the Deep State in the executive branch is broken.
You can’t vote your way out of this mess.

Posted by: Honzo | Feb 3 2024 22:31 utc | 160

When the US asks Australia to jump, the PM’s reply: ” How high?”
ABC News
@abcnews
·
5m
“You can’t have the sort of attacks that we’ve seen and see no response.”
Does the Prime Minister believe the U.S. Strikes on Iranian targets are appropriate?
Anthony Albanese responds on #Insiders #auspol
https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1753906892378873924

Posted by: Menz | Feb 3 2024 22:32 utc | 161

“..In mammoth newspapers offices there are two or three floors, hundreds of cubicles, a dozen corner offices, boardroom, IT staff, secretaries with countless other apparchicks in various parts of the world with similar offices communicating together..” canuck
Not any more. Those old offices, so vibrant with people as recently as twenty years ago, have emptied very quickly. Many of the old towers, such as that at One Yonge in Toronto have been sold off. The staffs are long gone, replaced by freelancers, wire copy and every form of computer assisted productivity.
The secretaries who knew where the bodies lay buried are gone too, So are the switchboard operators, unheralded geniuses who could put a reporter in phone contact with anyone, from Satan to the Prime Minister’s office. So are the owners-publishers with names working for shareholders with large blocs that gave them seats of the board- replaced by Hedge Fund nominated scammers pumping every last penny of value out of a ship that barely floats above the waves on the calmest day and in the shallowest water.
I guess it’s been a while since you were at the Spec offices or taking the guided tour on Front Street.
pacifica advocate
You are right about oil. Fisher rurned the Royal Navy into an oil fired enterprise long before 1914. And nothing was more important in British/Imperial strategic calculations than the oil supply for the fleet.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 3 2024 22:33 utc | 162

Posted by: bevin | Feb 3 2024 22:14 utc | 149
……………………..
Yes but we are now mainly being run by anti-nationalist globalists who, to get there, first undermined the strong socialist style post-war governments with Thatcher and Reaganite privatization and now are into more openly Trotskyoid atomization creating a demoralized post nation state mess which will be rescued by some sort of one-world or one system for all techno-feudal totalitarianism.
Unions work when there is a strong sense of nationhood within which healthy class struggle can actually yield positive developments, plus people believe there is a future. But in atomization phase like now things are just falling apart and with them most societal binding factors, including a positive outlook about life now and future life for children and grandchildren.
The civilization phase is now over, at least in the West for the foreseeable future. Soon, things will start devolving back to tribes.

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 3 2024 22:38 utc | 163

Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
@jacksonhinklle
·
2h
🚨🇺🇸🇷🇺 Tucker Carlson appears to be in Moscow. Please God let this be a Putin interview.
https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1753869692236652960

Posted by: Menz | Feb 3 2024 22:41 utc | 164

Now, we have already discussed Hamas genesis as and anti-PLO tool, but now in retrospect, do the Israeli feel Hamas was ungrateful or was all of this more than LIHOP?
Some recent Hamas History

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 3 2024 22:42 utc | 165

Pacifica Advocate | Feb 3 2024 21:48 utc | 138
And you are right about everything else too.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 3 2024 22:42 utc | 166

Confirmation?
Simon Ateba
@simonateba
BREAKING: Tucker Carlson has arrived in Moscow, Russia, to interview President Vladimir Putin with the hope of bringing the war in Ukraine to an end and averting World War Three.
https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1753900302984430023

Posted by: Menz | Feb 3 2024 22:50 utc | 167

Monday, #126
Not sure about the others but knowing what the rancid cow got up to when she was pm in NZ I would steer well clear of anything Helen Clark was involved with. She is a useful idiot addicted entirely to the WEF globalist agenda. Her presence taints the dish.

Posted by: eagle eye | Feb 3 2024 22:53 utc | 168

The Invisible DPA in The Antitrust Farce

[…]
How this all came about makes for a story that connects Wyoming’s rough-and-tumble oil fields of the early 20th century with the highest levels of national politics.
Wyoming oil and a president’s authority
In the first decade of the 20th Century, the U.S. Navy began retrofitting its warships to run on fuel oil instead of coal. At the same time, demand for oil rose as more and more people bought gasoline-fueled automobiles.
In 1909, the chief of the U.S. Geological Survey advised the Secretary of the Interior that oil companies in California were claiming oil prospects so fast—and at such low fees—under the 1872 Mining Law that soon “the government will be obliged to repurchase the very oil” to run its Navy “that previously it has practically given away.”
Primarily to protect the Navy’s fuel supply, President William Howard Taft issued an order withdrawing more than 3 million acres of public land in California and Wyoming—land with good oil prospects on it—from availability to oil producers.
But he was unsure of his constitutional authority to do this, and asked Congress to pass a law giving him the authority. Congress did this; it passed the Pickett Act in 1911—but that law did not make the president’s new authority retroactive to the withdrawals he had ordered in 1909.
Meanwhile, oil prospectors doing business with the Midwest Oil Company, which had large holdings in the Salt Creek Field, filed a mineral claim on a 160-acre tract in the field that was included in the land that President Taft had withdrawn. They drilled, and hit oil, and the company pumped 50,000 barrels of oil out of the ground. When it found out what had happened, the U.S. attorney’s office in Cheyenne sued the company for recovery of the tract and for the value of the oil the company had already extracted.
United States v. Midwest Oil, as the case was called, made its way all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.
[…]

plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

Posted by: sln2002 | Feb 3 2024 22:53 utc | 169

You might want to read these post-war interviews about communist infiltration of USG in 20s and 30s from German Intelligence Chief. Of course, might all be disinfo but a good read nonetheless.
Search for Douglas + Gestapo Chief Muller. Three volumes. Generally I think it fair to say that all sides back then were up to no good.

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 3 2024 22:56 utc | 170

Why has Israel been avoided when discussing the Kennedy assassinations?
https://husseini.substack.com/p/israel-and-the-kennedy-assassinations

Posted by: Siddhartha | Feb 3 2024 22:57 utc | 171

Posted by: Menz | Feb 3 2024 22:50 utc | 166
God willing.

Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 3 2024 22:57 utc | 172

Posted by: bevin | Feb 3 2024 22:14 utc | 149
Don’t apologise. Your posts are among the best and always thought-provoking.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 3 2024 22:19 utc | 152
wildly off-kilter ad hominems
Agreed. If I’ve been guilty of that (Mark2🙏🏼) I’ll try to fight the urge. That said, Gn. Domitius ‘the Red-Bearded’ is an intelligent poster and I appreciate his contributions too.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 3 2024 22:58 utc | 173

the very best case of Stein or West entering the White House is that the permanent bureaucracy of the Federal government simply ignores them and does what it was going to do anyway… You can’t vote your way out of this mess.
@ Honzo | Feb 3 2024 22:31 utc | 159

Thanks for your thorough scrutiny of the outlook for alternative presidential candidates. I, for one, can’t find a word of what you just wrote which isn’t perfectly clear.
Do you have any guidance on a better “way-out of this mess” than voting (or not voting)? Withdrawal of consent, non-cooperation, and resistance can happen individually as well as socially. I don’t have to wait for a general strike to make a stand, but it sure wouldn’t hurt to see some effective antiwar energy from my fellow US Americans.
John Helmer, in several recent columns, cites incredibly disturbing opinion polls of the Israeli public, evincing overwhelming approval of genocide. On the other hand, I have yet to see anything resembling overwhelming disapproval of ongoing genocide from USA’s polity. Some loud demos, here and there, from Jewish Voice for Peace — that’s all.
I’ll admit to having a darker view of my fellow US Americans than most. My country was built on stolen land with stolen labor; in my decades of life in California, I’ve never seen a sign of that ever changing.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 3 2024 23:00 utc | 174

Heroic Trust-buster?
Theodore Roosevelt, Naval Expansion, and Guaranteeing Peace

[…]
In 1897, William McKinley was inaugurated as 25th President of the United States. As an advocate of tariffs and protectionist policies, McKinley believed in supporting U.S. interests in Cuba and around the globe through diplomacy and tough negotiations. And yet, just over 12 months after his inauguration, McKinley would find himself leading the United States into war against a European power. Although America would enjoy total victory in 1898, this was despite the lack of naval preparation throughout the 1880s and 1890s. The near-immediate naval build-up in 1897 and early 1898 was due in large part to the bold actions of a capable Assistant Secretary of the Navy—Theodore Roosevelt.
[…]
The evidence of the need for a strong Navy, capable of power projection overseas, included aggressive competition for colonial possessions and an 1889 war scare between the United States and Germany over territorial claims in the Samoan Islands. Two years later, a mob attacked U.S. sailors on shore leave in Valparaiso, Chile, killing 2 and wounding 17 others. President Benjamin Harrison tried to take a hard line, but then backed off when he was informed that our Navy was actually weaker than Chile’s.5
These episodes compelled some politicians to call for more spending to quickly modernize the fleet, but additional funding was slow to materialize. As late as early 1897, the Navy still was woefully underfunded. While five battleships had been laid down, work was halted on three of them because the funds Congress had allocated for armor plate was too low.6
[…]

Posted by: sln2002 | Feb 3 2024 23:00 utc | 175

Great report b. As always, massively appreciated.

Posted by: annie | Feb 3 2024 23:09 utc | 176

Microsoft has announced plans to disable the computers of people who share ‘non-mainstream’ content online, in an attempt to combat so-called ‘misinformation’ in the run-up to the 2024 election.
Posted by: Menz | Feb 3 2024 22:21 utc | 155
Must be “Iran-backed” misinformation this time around. After all it is 2024.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 3 2024 23:09 utc | 177

I’d say about a third of comments sections, once the count has reached about 100, devolve into personal spats and petty squabbles among a few what I’ll call “new regulars.” Primarily they’re driven by one party to the situation. It does get a little old having to parse them. I suppose it’s to be expected to some extent with such naked evil taking place and being perpetrated and cultivated by the “democratic” governments of most commentators here – or their proxies.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2024 23:10 utc | 178

@ Patroklos | Feb 3 2024 22:58 utc | 172
Thanks for the encouraging words. I don’t have the impression (from your contributions to previous threads) that you’ve been recklessly and meaninglessly attacking anyone. It’s always difficult to suggest literary improvement (as seems your irresistible wont).
Your comments usually address interesting issues, such as that old republic vs. democracy chestnut you roasted a few threads back. I deeply appreciate efforts toward precise expression like that.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 3 2024 23:13 utc | 179

“I’ve said it before but the billionaires backing the Dems are almost uniformly committed Zionazis. They make so much money off the china trade that a war with China is unthinkable to them. Occasionally, I wonder if they want to bog the US down with losing ventures in Ukraine and the ME so as to make some agreement with China a fait accompli.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 3 2024 17:34 utc | 46”
Dispensationalists, Christan Zionists eager fpr the Second Coming of Jesus, are responsible for US Middle East policy.
I imagine that you, as a secularlist, don’t want to read Dispensational theory about Gog and Magog or the 38th chapter of Ezekiel, or lisien to the rantings of John Haggee. But they are important, no matter how distasteful they are.

Posted by: lester | Feb 3 2024 23:22 utc | 180

@bevin: Tks for that. I respect the acknowledgment.

You might want to read these post-war interviews about communist infiltration of USG in 20s and 30s from German Intelligence Chief. Of course, might all be disinfo but a good read nonetheless.
Search for Douglas + Gestapo Chief Muller. Three volumes. Generally I think it fair to say that all sides back then were up to no good.
Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 3 2024 22:56 utc | 169

I think you well remember, @Scorpion, that I do lump you in with @NemesisCalling, with @NC being a poster who long ago revealed himself as an overt Nazi, but oddly has returned with much more carefully disguised rhetoric.
It almost seems there is a scheme that has been filed, so that the poster sending up comments under the name “Nemesis Calling” can be rehabilitated for further recruitment into the Nazi cause.
Both Bevin and I—as well as a lot of others, here—know quite well what sort of Nazi theories @NenesisCalling loves to promote.
Nah: I understand the ploy: y’all pretend to be moderate humanists—even humanitarian—but then….

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 3 2024 23:25 utc | 181

The “west” always said it was worried an indictment from an institution like the Yugoslavia court would drive someone like Milosevic to even further ateocities (out of desperation). We now see the “west” reacting in exactly the same way. It just keeps keep digging and hoping something good might happen if it opens up another front.
BTW Alex Christophorou explained the delay in Biden’s air strikes was due to the fact that the markets had to close first. Maybe the WB settler sanctions were just to show that the US is doing this not for Israel (who may have been involved in the Tower 22 strike) but for itself. But if that is the messaging is it working?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 3 2024 23:29 utc | 182

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2024 23:10 utc | 177
What do you expect in a public meeting place?
New people come into the bar and the regulars are initially wary of them. Eventually, some of them are accepted into the community while others are given the cold shoulder.

Posted by: Siddhartha | Feb 3 2024 23:31 utc | 183

Speak for yourself, crypto Dem anti worker…
@ Ahenobarbus | Feb 3 2024 17:18 utc | 35
Another typically meaningless post from Ahenobarbus, who has acquired an inexpicable aversion to everything I write (even when paraphrasing MLK about “the greatest purveyor of terror in the world today — my own government”!)
This site has notably deteriorated into skin-deep flame-wars for the thin-skinned lately, and wildly off-kilter ad hominems such as Ahenobarbus’ do not help. That’s my only point in responding to manifestly irrelevant, childish invective. We can do better than this, folks. History makes mincemeat of your childish dichotomies.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 3 2024 22:19 utc | 152
Sorry Aleph.
I get sick of people blaming the victims. I attack only the suggestion that the wage slave majority support imperialist wars abroad. I find such conceptions to be linked to a misanthropic ideology promoted by the Dem wing of the ruling class. The anti war sentiment is actually massive, but systematically hidden from public view and without a vehicle unless you’re a naive soul who thinks Jill Stein and Cornell West will lead the American wage slaves to the required social revolution.
I’m sure you are a fine person, good neighbor, etc otherwise. Don’t take it personally. Instead of getting offended, tell me why I’m wrong? Is the American public totally ignorant of what it’s imperialist government gets up to abroad? Does the Imperialist government enjoy the blind support of the thick headed masses of wage slaves?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 3 2024 23:33 utc | 184

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 3 2024 17:49 utc | 55
You misunderstand “Ahenobarbus”. I do not celebrate the lack of opposition to the imperial regime, I point out the sad reality of its unchallenged dominance. If one is aware of verified massive discontent, one should provide some indication.
You correctly point out that there isn’t a political vector for dissidents to participate and therefore they are unable to express their hostility towards the neoliberal imperialist elites. Well, that is precisely my point. The main political representatives for the masses are the various factions of the neoliberal uniparty and that is the case in almost every country in the western world. And it is hard to look elsewhere, since the main source of information for far too many folks are the mainstream media manned by systemic presstitutes and lickspittles.
“Lysias” makes the case for Jill Stein and Cornel West. Yet both are very weak candidates as they have failed in basic issues of organizational and ideological nature. Stein is admittedly a better option as Dr West is sinking in the mire of identity politics and his team is a bunch of jokers that typically comprise the standard type of western leftists. But no few Greens appear compromised too.
Now, I would love to see a political formation capable of mobilizing significant numbers against the regime in the US of A, but there is little hope for that. So even if, as you suggest, there is a massive social stratum that is ready to enter into revolutionary action against the regime, there are no means to see its willingness translated into a political reality.
On the other hand, the regime, even when it produces disasters domestically and internationally, is able to project a political vision. As for as its actual achievements go this image is fraudulent and fake, but it is backed by a massive and highly sophisticated propaganda machine. And one of the most important tropes it pushes is the sublime qualities of the white liberal that make one a superior westerner, a Homo Occidentalis. As far as supremacist ideologies go, this has been the most insidious and until now spectacularly successful.

Posted by: Constantine | Feb 3 2024 23:33 utc | 185

Posted by: Menz | Feb 3 2024 22:18 utc | 151
re: Jordan bombed Syria, Iraq alongside US
Absent corroboration, I would not trust the Wall St Journal reporting here. Jordan has been at pains to not appear supportive in any way with activity that could be interpreted as assisting a hegemonic pro-Israel position. Abruptly changing tack so its F16s could somehow participate in an attack led by B1 bombers doesn’t make much sense.
Also, the previous day, Reuters ran a story using anonymous “regional sources” claiming that Saudi Arabia was desperate for a U.S. defence pact and was begging Israel to relent to a weak non-binding aspirational process towards a “2-state solution” which would provide SA political cover for its effective alliance with U.S.
It could be said outlets like Reuters and WSJ, not for the first time, are running disinformation designed to create distrust and disunity amongst the Arab states outside of the resistance.

Posted by: jayc | Feb 3 2024 23:40 utc | 186

From the NY Times:

Mideast countries housing American attack aircraft are increasingly reluctant to have their bases used for offensive strikes in Iraq, Syria and Yemen to avoid being perceived as supporting Israel.

This explains why not one, but two B1-B bombers flew 6000 miles from Texas to Syria, each at a cost of $173,014 per hour.

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 3 2024 23:45 utc | 187

You might want to read these post-war interviews about communist infiltration of USG in 20s and 30s from German Intelligence Chief. Of course, might all be disinfo but a good read nonetheless.
Search for Douglas + Gestapo Chief Muller. Three volumes. Generally I think it fair to say that all sides back then were up to no good.
Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 3 2024 22:56 utc | 169

LOL!
You, @Scorpion, want the rest of the US to believe the Gestapo reported, in a truthful manner, to the US military/intel services, what the USSR was doing/planning?
You do realize you are literally asking historians and patriots to accept the claims of proven Nazi liars as the foundation of truth?
Yeah, @Scorpion? You do realize you’re asking us all to accept Gestapo reports over….the accepted intelligence the F/uk/US alliance worked off of?
Yeah, you recognize that?
I do, too. You’re asking us to believe the Gehlen network of spies wasn’t overtly a bunch of Nazi holdovers who, like the Banderists, got adopted by short-sighted and cynical US industrialists who wouldn’t know profits from prefects, with all of their rhetorical victories slithering off into unethical vectors that even the worst of Mass Media (aka “Corporate”) could not recognize?
You thought I forgot about y’all, Nemesis and Scorpion.
Our resident Nazis.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 3 2024 23:47 utc | 188

@ Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2024 21:23 utc | 125
and @ Pacifica Advocate | Feb 3 2024 21:48 utc | 138
both take a look @ sln2002 | Feb 3 2024 22:17 utc | 150
thanks sln2002… i think the usa and uk were well aware of the value of oil as a commodity way back and much earlier then many realize..

Posted by: james | Feb 3 2024 23:51 utc | 189

New people come into the bar and the regulars are initially wary of them. Eventually, some of them are accepted into the community while others are given the cold shoulder.
Posted by: Siddhartha | Feb 3 2024 23:31 utc | 182
Not really what I meant. New people frequently come here with excellent contributions and no strife ensues. As I stated, the complaint was about petty personal squabbles, not disagreements over fundamental issues or drastic differences in philosophy. Trolls of course will hopefully be given the cold shoulder, but there’s no reason to do that to new or new-ish visitors simply for the sake – or hell – of it minus some lies or distortions being peddled.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2024 23:54 utc | 190

Telegram: @llordofwar reporting a US F35 was shot down and crashed in Saudi Arabia.
https://t.me/llordofwar/287664

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 3 2024 23:55 utc | 191

Celia Farber recently published a substack article about James Perloff’s study of the USS Liberty attack in 1967. Every American should be obliged to read Mr. Perloff’s words before signing on to the murderous enterprises of the Zionist state and the religious lunatics currently in its war cabinet. Perhaps after doing so, more Americans will cure themselves of the Leon Uris-induced societal insanity concerning Israel and will ask themselves how that cabal of murderous bastards manage to control the US Congress and the White House.

Posted by: Jack Gordon | Feb 3 2024 23:55 utc | 192

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 3 2024 23:47 utc | 187
The US did assimilate many members of the SS, Gestapo, Abwehr etc. into its intelligence and military/industrial organisations after the end of WW2.

Posted by: Siddhartha | Feb 4 2024 0:01 utc | 193

@james | Feb 3 2024 23:51 utc | 188
Thanks for that.
Yes, it is clearly true: petroleum, in all its forms, has always been useful.
And you are a true gentleman.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 4 2024 0:09 utc | 194

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Feb 3 2024 23:25 utc | 180
Worrying PA
I just agreed with Nemesis – but yes I guess I was surprised I agreed, because he/she is a NAZI.
Now Scorpio is I think not a NAZI but an old style (about 1650 I think) Monarchist. From the little bit he has told of himself I think he is upper class UK and quite possibly has some high level connections. I was totally shocked when he espoused actual monarchist views- something that died in the UK with Charles I’s head but I guess it is a point of view. It is not NAZI though.

Posted by: watcher | Feb 4 2024 0:11 utc | 195

Anyone read S the thinker recently? He’s made the exact opposite analysis to B and seems to believe US imperialism is going to force the creation of a Palestinian state on the Zionazis, force a cease fire on the Zionazis and leave Iraq and Syria and basically the entire middle east.
I love the guy, but this recent post of his is just absurd. He was subject to some serious economic pressure recently. Think they got to him?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 3 2024 17:28 utc | 43
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I quit loving the guy a while back. His recent article surprised me. Maybe you are right.
Karloff1 is still not getting paid. I’d just as soon pay him directly, just like b. Rare gem, for sure.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Feb 4 2024 0:18 utc | 196

Why has Israel been avoided when discussing the Kennedy assassinations?
https://husseini.substack.com/p/israel-and-the-kennedy-assassinations
Posted by: Siddhartha | Feb 3 2024 22:57 utc | 170

You can add the Olof Palme, Folke Bernadotte and Dag Hammarskjöld assassinations just for good measures.

Posted by: blueswede | Feb 4 2024 0:18 utc | 197

Now, I would love to see a political formation capable of mobilizing significant numbers against the regime in the US of A, but there is little hope for that. So even if, as you suggest, there is a massive social stratum that is ready to enter into revolutionary action against the regime, there are no means to see its willingness translated into a political reality.
Posted by: Constantine | Feb 3 2024 23:33 utc | 184
You’re a scholar and a gentleman, C. However it’s clear that our differences are encapsulated in the above statement.
I not only would love such a development but I see it as objectively possible because the sentiment is broadly felt and because history requires it.
It does seem hopeless watching the west crumble, but this is precisely the historical point of greatest opportunity for the masses to become subjects of history and cease being objective props for a farce play put on by the ruling classes.
There is much work to be done and that work cannot be done if one has already conceded the fight.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Feb 4 2024 0:21 utc | 198

all these wars. history has been perversely transfigured. certainty banished, truth returns as an echo.

Posted by: Jip | Feb 4 2024 0:24 utc | 199

Are we in my civilization war yet? Its that one between social organizations formed around public or private finance. The one that Scorpion never talks about.
Ending the US presence in the ME is really saying to end the God Of Mammon cult running the levers of empire with the corrupt US govt. as the current face and military jackboot.
We seem to be in a hot phase of what many of us refer to as bully death by thousands of cuts so no nukes are used. Empire may think that B1 bombers still deliver Shock and Awe but I am not so sure anymore. This period we are in should be telling but not sure how long it goes between escalation and extinction before capitulation by the God Of Mammon cult.
What a time to get to watch some of history being made.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 4 2024 0:37 utc | 200