Boycott, Divestment And Sanctions
Despite its utter cruelty and destructiveness Israel is far from achieving its goal of ethnic cleansing Gaza. It also has not even dared yet to attack Hizbullah in south Lebanon. This while Zionists settlers had to move out of the areas surrounding Gaza and from the ground near to the Lebanese border.
Netanyahoo is in a trap. He has to 'do something' to allow for the return of the internal refugees to their homes. But any action towards that will cause more death of his troops and may well hurt Israel's strategic viability.
It seems that the Zionist idea of a settler colony exclusively for Jews is coming, slowly but surely, to its inevitable end.
There have long be signs of this. The boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign (BDS) against Israel has been continuously growing.
I remember that some decades ago groceries in Germany were selling 'Jaffa oranges'. These were from Israel - good fruits by the way - but already back then a constant and more or less silent campaign was underway to shun Israeli products. 'Jaffa oranges' are no longer marketed here. I presume that are now used to produce orange juice which can be sold without naming the country from where the fruits in the juice came from.
There were other failed attempts to sell Israeli produce into European markets. A year or two ago some local Aldi store had potatoes for sale with the country of origin marked as 'Israel/Germany'. I talked to the sales manager and protested against that designation. He admitted that it was wrong to use two origins for one product but complained that if he would label the origin as 'Israel' nobody would buy them.
I have since seen no potatoes from Israel.
People check the country of origin when they buy tangerines. Others check the first three numbers of the barcode on canned products. Anything that starts with 729 comes from a company registered in Israel. I don't buy those neither should you.
During my time as an IT executive I had worked with network managers who would shun any equipment from Israel. Not only because there was a high risk that it could be used for espionage but out of principle concern over Israeli policies.
Back in October Starbucks had sued Workers United - the union organizing its employees — because the union had posted a pro-Palestinian message on social media. The result was a global call to boycott Starbucks. Its success is astonishing:
World's biggest coffee chain cuts sales forecast and misses market expectations amid boycotts - MSN, Jan 31 2024
The world's biggest coffee chain told investors on Tuesday night there was a "significant impact on traffic and sales" in the Middle East due to the Israel-Hamas conflict.The impact was also felt in the US as boycotts of the chain took place, chief executive Laxman Narasimhan told attendees of a post-quarterly earnings conference call.
Some had avoided Starbucks in the Middle East and US after it took legal action in October against Workers United for using Starbucks's name and similar logo.
A post from the union's social media account in October expressed solidarity with the Palestinian people before being deleted.
Boycotting Israel related products is the one small thing each and everyone of us can do without much effort of strain.
Over time it will be successful.
Posted by b on February 2, 2024 at 15:18 UTC | Permalink
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It is a long list of companies to Boycott, start with Intel!
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Feb 2 2024 15:37 utc | 2
thanks b..
what the corporations and countries will do in support of israel, is they will 'mislabel' the stuff... they are doing this already with regard to gmos - calling it canola oil and etc. etc.. they'll just label it differently...
all power to bds either way.. i fully support the movement..
Posted by: james | Feb 2 2024 15:37 utc | 3
Agreed. I also believe the course of events may follow those of what happened after WWII. In 3-4 years, the ICJ will in all likelihood rule that Israel is currently committing genocide and crimes against humanity, and from there the Palestinians only need to follow precedent and the playbook established by the Zionists themselves: seek restitution and compensation payments from the State of Israel and call for the arrest of anyone participating in the atrocities, ad infinitum. This would be anathema to the Zionist project.
The Palestinians have an ideal moment in time to seek full UN recognition. Sergei Lavrov has already outlined what the Palestinians need to do - bring about a unified leadership, while even the US and the UK is open now to Palestinian statehood.
Those millions of dual passport Zionists from around the world would be extremely reluctant to keep being invested in a losing prospect. Together with a failing economy, internal displacement, military duties, BDS, etc. the collapse of the State of Israel is becoming visible on the horizon.
Posted by: North Patagonia | Feb 2 2024 15:41 utc | 4
Israelis, like Americans, would never support a jihadist state on their border, according to Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) head Morton Klein. He slammed the Biden administration on Thursday for its continued push for the creation of a hostile Palestinian state, arguing it would be a “major terrorist state,” and comparing the existential threat it would pose to Israel to the “Final Solution” to exterminate the Jews of Europe.
(Breitbart)
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 15:42 utc | 5
My main problem is that after stopping purchases of Kedem cookies, I do not have much to boycott. Haven't been in MacDonals or Starbucks for many years... Otherwise, companies that do business in Israel are either hard to identify or hard to avoid (should I change my internet provider? have no idea, and no idea about the competition...)
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 2 2024 15:44 utc | 6
Not that far a leap from BDS against apartheid etc in a genocidal country like Israel, to worldwide repercussions against their supporters in the US. Now I understand the hardcore domestic pushback against the very notion, thought or utterence.
Posted by: Not Ewe | Feb 2 2024 15:49 utc | 7
As a person who believes far more in economic power than cultural power, I still believe that BDS will be successful when it starts racking up dramatic cultural boycott wins, e.g. gets Israel kicked out of Eurovision, and various sports and entertainment venues. The economic boycotts are great, and they signal to corporations that they can not longer proudly trumpet their support for Israel, but Israel's economic strength ultimately isn't tied to the Western consumer, it is tied to the Western believe of Israel as an outpost of whiteness in a dark world. Once the cultural ties start to break, Israel's support will collapse.
Posted by: Bob | Feb 2 2024 15:50 utc | 8
The Genocide Convention is part of domestic law in many countries. It’s time to start using judicial means to prevent tax revenues from being used in dealings with companies that are involved in enabling genocide.
Posted by: tawharanui | Feb 2 2024 15:50 utc | 9
Sodastream is a big success in Belgium. I asked around and there is no requirement for land of origin. Also who knows what intricate financial structures they made up.
Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Feb 2 2024 15:51 utc | 10
When I was a logistics salesman I tried to present Israeli services to the Jewish community. Specifically, Zim the Israeli national steamship line. They were 100 miles ahead of me. They told me that they might like to support Israel but due to politics Israels services were unreliable. And they were correct because no Zim vessel has been able to offload on the USWC due the port unions support for Palestine for the last 10 years. They tried a few years back and the vessel sailed from Los Angeles all the way to Portland unsuccessfully trying to discharge its cargo. I believe that they had to use a military port, probably Port Hueneme to unload. So, containers destined for places thousands of miles from there had to eat huge cartage fees as a result. And there are a lot of ways logistics personel can privately enforce their own embargo on Israel without running afoul of the US Israel antiembargo act. Wink wink. Probably as a result, most non military US exported to Israel was directed to Jewish, Zionist logistics companies back in the 90s. I had to interact with Israeli cargo security at that time quite a bit to move their cargo.
Posted by: Ralph Conner | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 11
Since we, the civilized peoples of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, killing and insulting Jews for the last 2,000 years, I suppose boycotting Israeli products is quite acceptable.
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 12
BDS is an effective strategy for a popular movement to pressure Israel to end its genocidal policies against Palestinians, but Americans must do more than boycott and divest. Americans must agitate to force their government to withhold all economic and military subsidies to the racist state of Israel. These subsidies are the primary reasons why Israel acts with impunity to mass murder and force Palestinians into exile.
Posted by: Wilikins | Feb 2 2024 16:00 utc | 13
list of companies/businesses for boycotting..
List of Brands Supporting Israel That Muslims Are Boycotting
list of companies to boycott in canada.. includes amazon and most all canuck banks..
https://bdscoalition.ca/boycott-list-of-shame/
Posted by: james | Feb 2 2024 16:00 utc | 14
They'll simply lie about the country of origin.
Expecting sociopaths to play by rules is a mug's game.
Posted by: Feral Finster | Feb 2 2024 16:07 utc | 15
Posted by Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 13
Since we, the civilized peoples of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, killing and insulting Jews for the last 2,000 years, I suppose boycotting Israeli products is quite acceptable.Allow me to fix that for you, Sertorius, to give your comment the merit it deserves:
Since we, the Zionists of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, and insulting non-Jews for the last 76 years, it is indeed quite acceptable to boycott Israeli products. (And 76 years is being charitable.)
Posted by: Matthew | Feb 2 2024 16:09 utc | 16
Where can we find a comprehensive list of companies/products from Israel or with an Israeli connection?
Posted by: Pierre | Feb 2 2024 16:13 utc | 17
Sertorius @13
Sincce they (whom we are not supposed to criticise), the self-chosen peoples of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, killing and insulting Goyim for the last 3,000 years, I suppose boycotting Israeli products is quite acceptable.
Here, I fixed it for you.
Posted by: AJ | Feb 2 2024 16:14 utc | 18
The Jewish People are reclaiming their land
Posted by: Abraham Linsky | Feb 2 2024 15:48 utc | 7
Among others... I guess
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 16:14 utc | 19
alas oranges are not the only fruit for the only real fruit in that place is precious unto man the children and not any children but the semite children of Gaza.
this is a test most failed the covid test and took unto them the mark of the beast consented to destroy poison themselves unique blood separated now from God most high.
those that call themselves jews and who are not are insane liars that can never be trusted
Antartica admiral birds little america beyond the ice walls trueman ville away away the donmeh turkic scum khazarian ashkanazim must Exodus again and again like scorpion they cannot help demonic nature.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Posted by: todd | Feb 2 2024 16:14 utc | 20
Sheldon Adelson has died, but his casinos presumably still make a lot of money for his heirs. The Sands in Las Vegas was demolished and became the Venetian, Macao Sands and Macao Venetian, and a casino in Bethlehem, PA are Adelson owned. Or were. Comdex was a business originally owned by Adelson but was sold to Softbank. Adelson's widow has purchased a majority stake in the Dallas Mavericks NBA team.
Posted by: Wilikins | Feb 2 2024 16:15 utc | 21
Thanks B, thats encouraging.
Folks should tell others.
There's an app called the No Thanks App that helps people detect origin of goods.
You scan it and if it's sourced from Israel the screen says No Thanks@
Posted by: Laura Roslin | Feb 2 2024 16:17 utc | 22
Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 13 ...
So .... you are still trying to invert reality.
But what will you do when your several thousand years of fanatically stacked-up lies finally fail, and your techniques of coercion, extortion, corruption and divide-and-rule no longer work?
Will a shape-shift be possible --- and to what?
Perhaps a final throw of the loaded dice .... drop overtly "religious" theology, and totally switch emphasis to seeking global domination / thought-policing via the WEF (with NATO as a subsidiary) and its rotten appendages?
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 2 2024 16:23 utc | 24
It's not even necessary. The Jewish brand is dead. No one even wants a Jewish doctor lawyer or banker. It's done, stick a fork in it.
Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 2 2024 16:25 utc | 25
It should be expanded to Christian Zionists as well.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 16:26 utc | 26
Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 16:26 utc | 27
*** It should be expanded to Christian Zionists as well.***
They're arguably even worse.
At least the leading elements of the zionist/kabbalist tribe regard themselves as vastly superior and hate everyone else, all of whom are deemed to be subhuman animals or less. So to them, everyone else in the world is disposable and exists only to be exploited and enslaved.
Extremely bad mentality, though quite logical in its own sick way.
But "christian zionists" grovel to, and fervently serve, the pimpers of a false god that blatantly detests them. So they're perversely proud to be inferior, and to seek to force others into pretending to be inferior. How utterly deranged is that?
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 2 2024 16:44 utc | 27
Since we, the civilized peoples of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, killing and insulting Jews for the last 2,000 years, I suppose boycotting Israeli products is quite acceptable.
Since we, the always persecuted Zionist Jews of the Earth (insert un-needed comma) have been colonizing Israel and forcing other Jews and Goyim alike to proclaim their loyalty to our apartheid settler genocide state on land stolen from the rightful inhabitants that have been there for centuries prior to our illegal deadly project, I suppose boycotting Israeli (not all Jewish) products will be quite effective! Keep it up and let's starve the Zionist predatory-parasitic state out of existence!
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 13
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2024 16:44 utc | 28
Indeed. If there is one thing Jews love more than killing Palestinians, it is money.
Since empathy, a sense of justice or basic morality don't seem to be applicable, hurting their bank balance is sure to be an effective way to get them to alter their behaviour to basic acceptable human standards.
Posted by: Rubiconned | Feb 2 2024 16:45 utc | 29
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 16:21 utc | 24
Anti-semitism is anti-semitic!
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2024 16:46 utc | 30
For an always updated list of Israeli products and brands to boycott:
https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2024 16:47 utc | 31
I've been boycotting Israeli products for years. Didn't know about the barcode though thanks for sharing that
Posted by: Blackbird 25 | Feb 2 2024 16:48 utc | 32
""The Jewish People are reclaiming their land and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it!
Posted by: Abraham Linsky | Feb 2 2024 15:48 utc | 7 ""
So far you have been exceedingly successful in your anti-non-Jew campaign. Your fractional reserve banking, now with no reserves necessary, leverage to infinity, money conjuring game, borrowing money guaranteed by the peasants, was an astonishing success. Using other people's value and production as your own, lending their money back to them, at interest. Your Rentier classes have lived like kings.
But you used to keep your Jackboots in check, never in Public, while operating in the hallways and offices of power. Now you are killing women and children out in the open. Sorry, those are Cattle to you. A Palestinian child carries no weight, no value versus a Jewish child. For that matter, and you usually keep very silent about it, does a Christian or any other child amount to anything more than a pack animal.
You may be right. But the writing on the Wall indicates either you have abandoned your God or he has abandoned you.
Posted by: kupkee | Feb 2 2024 16:49 utc | 33
A BOYcott is no longer enough. I say take it all the way, from now on a total MANcott!
Posted by: Elbereth | Feb 2 2024 16:51 utc | 34
The Jewish People are reclaiming their land and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it!
Posted by: Abraham Linsky | Feb 2 2024 15:48 utc | 7
Least of all those whose land it really is.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 16:55 utc | 35
@ Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 13
"Since we, the civilized peoples of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, killing and insulting Jews for the last 2,000 years.."
you say..
well, none of us were around for most of those 2,000 years my friend, but if the result of what those 2,000 years of Jewish culture and evolution has generated is on display in Israel today, then perhaps one could begin with questioning what may have precipitated such ill will across millenia and across many different cultures and civilizations. The only one common denominator after all, were those being persecuted.
Could it be that people don't like greedy racists and inbreeding ethnic supremacists, no matter where they end up? Just a thought..
Posted by: Rubiconned | Feb 2 2024 17:04 utc | 36
list of companies to boycott in canada.. includes amazon and most all canuck banks..
https://bdscoalition.ca/boycott-list-of-shame/
Posted by: james | Feb 2 2024 16:00 utc | 15
OK I can easily boycott Starbuck, McDonald, coke, Pepsi and produce from Israel ( I don't drink fruit juice) . I already don't like all our politicians. But come on that list is crazy. I will have to live under a rock and eat things that I grow.
Posted by: Calgary guy | Feb 2 2024 17:09 utc | 37
As a intl trade specialist I can supply some more good news which is that many if not most intl air and sea ports in the Free World, LOL are managed directly or indirectly by Israeli security. In this way the zionist state is intimately integrated into the Western Worlds trade infrastructure. Great subterfuge is used to disguise this relationship. Supposedly, secrecy about the Israeli connection is to facilitate security. Although in the USA they often brag about it. Probably not anymore, LOL. Typically they are represented as consultants. Companies like MER Logistics will set up Zionist friendly systems in intl ports which under the security aegis, give Israel the ability to oversee all activities at said ports remotely. I must say that they provides very good security in my experience. My problem is having such critical infrastructure infiltrated by a racist and now an outright genocidal state entity. What cretans! They should at least claim to be spreading democracy, or somesuch!
Posted by: ralph conner | Feb 2 2024 17:12 utc | 38
@ Calgary guy | Feb 2 2024 17:09 utc | 38
i agree with you in a way.. the list is a bit insane, but it does show how many businesses in canada are complicit in supporting israel... something to keep in mind.. cheers..
Posted by: james | Feb 2 2024 17:14 utc | 39
I stopped using WordPress for my Web development projects after seeing how Elementor plug-in (made in Israel) seems to be hijacking the CMS.
Posted by: Steve | Feb 2 2024 17:15 utc | 40
It is equally important to know which businesses to do business with. For starters, I found this rudimentary list on Quora:
Chick-fil-A, McDonald's, KFC, Dunkin Doughnuts support Israel. Burger King, Subway, Taco Bell, Denny's are against Israel.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 17:15 utc | 41
Visiting family in Italy, and they've stopped using the Sodastream.
Posted by: PeterVE | Feb 2 2024 17:16 utc | 42
@ ralph conner | Feb 2 2024 17:12 utc | 39
apparently they used that same apparatus to help 9-11 along as well.. worth knowing about - yes..
Posted by: james | Feb 2 2024 17:16 utc | 43
Not only the "israeli" brand. German brand lies in tatters also.
Beginning of cultural boycott: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/11/artists-urged-to-reject-german-institutions-over-berlins-stance-on-gaza
German Foreign Policy writes (in German) that party-affiliated organizations are losing staff and contacts and human rights orgs distance themselves.
https://www.german-foreign-policy.com/news/detail/9471 (only for a short period of time free to read). The article by Amro Ali in "Der Spiegel"
that is mentioned in the text is also interesting and can be read in English here: https://amroali.com/2024/01/the-moral-imagination-crisis-in-germanys-approach-to-palestine/
Ali received a lot of feedback from German experts and shows an anonymized example with some annotations on X
https://twitter.com/_amroali/status/1751582189156745459
Posted by: Darkness | Feb 2 2024 17:16 utc | 44
@ Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 17:15 utc | 42
just at a glance, some of the names on that list look like obfuscation to me.. they are on the boycott lists i shared @15
Posted by: james | Feb 2 2024 17:17 utc | 45
Ralph Conner @39
Re "cretans"
Surely, you meant cretins. I think you will find that "they" outlived their welcome in Crete about 1,700 years ago.
Posted by: AJ | Feb 2 2024 17:22 utc | 46
Posted by: james | Feb 2 2024 17:17 utc | 46
I cleared these ones against the Canadian list:
"Burger King, Subway, Taco Bell, Denny's are against Israel."
This would be more effective and simple if somebody created a list of businesses that have been "cleared"
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 17:25 utc | 47
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 15:42 utc | 5
Your man Morton Klein will have to find a location that will take his flock of Zionist Jews then, won’t he. Israel was created because we didn’t want them in Europe or America back then, even less now. Maybe they’ll behave themselves at the South Pole or outer space where there’d be nobody but Jews.
Posted by: Jeff A | Feb 2 2024 17:29 utc | 48
@ Calgary guy | Feb 2 2024 17:09 utc | 38
You articulate an unfortunate truth. If BDS were a well-coordinated international effort, it could start with, say, half a dozen corps, ruin them, then announce a second half dozen, and so forth. The others would eventually get the message.
Failing that, we can start with a few obvious targets, which the people in countries like Malaysia and Indonesia have thoughtfully identified for us. Let’s honor their leadership role! — and boycott whatever we can in the meantime.
Posted by: malenkov | Feb 2 2024 17:30 utc | 49
https://www.boycotzionism.com/de
There's one for the Euros
Posted by: liveload | Feb 2 2024 17:30 utc | 50
The only Israeli product I boycott is Israeli Islamist terrorism. Since this is an Israeli product that is devotedly supported by many immigrant Muslims from highly oppressive regimes, I assume they like the terrorism.if they are dishing it out to others , not on the receiving end.
Trying to boycott Muslims who support Israeli terrorism, like Al Qaida and Daesh is achieving the Divide and Rule aims of USUKIS. We are after all , after Ukraine , the next on the list of USUKIS to genocide. In fact, possibly the sole purpose of Ukraine is to create Right-wing terrorism in Europe to pitch against Western Muslims.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 2 2024 17:31 utc | 51
Chick-fil-A, McDonald's, KFC, Dunkin Doughnuts support Israel. Burger King, Subway, Taco Bell, Denny's are against Israel.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 17:15 utc | 42
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Not saying thus us necessarily inaccurate, but KFC and Taco Bell are both owned by the same corp.
Posted by: malenkov | Feb 2 2024 17:33 utc | 52
I will still buy jizzraeli pork tartar as should you all.
Posted by: nook | Feb 2 2024 17:36 utc | 53
Latest headline from NYT:
Over 800 Officials in U.S. and Europe Sign Letter Protesting Israel Policies
The document was signed by government employees in 12 nations and E.U. institutions. Signers say their leaders’ policies could be contributing to war crimes in Gaza.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 2 2024 17:40 utc | 54
Haven't checked recently but last time I looked SodaStream (do-it-yourself home-made bottled fizzy drinks kit) was made in Israel.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 2 2024 17:48 utc | 55
Since we all seem to agree that Arab land taken over by Israel should be given back, should we apply the same principle to German land taken over by Poland, Polish land taken over by the Ukraine, Hungarian land taken over by Romania, German land taken over by France, Irish land taken over by Britain, Greek land taken over by Turkey, Mexican land taken over by the US or Aboriginal land taken over by Australia?...Could we start a boycott action against the products of all those countries? Where do I sign in?...
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 17:52 utc | 56
For now I'll only make a quick mention of the most enormous fraud that has ever been used to rob humanity and that is of course the fact that rather than the peoples' governments rightfully, sanely, sensibly holding the power to issue the countries' credit (= debt) we have allowed that power to be given free-gratis and for no reason to a small number of private persons, mostly jewish, yes, who issue many nations' credit and charge the world's working families interest (that is never created) to use our own money. Most people are totally unaware of this and would be shocked to learn it, especially about how much less expensive everything could always have been.
But in trying to keep more strictly on topic:
In addition to increasing our boycotting, we can all keep reminding others of another very big thing being neglected: it has long been illegal according to many, er, accords and such to arm "israel" in the first place. please read this:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/11/19/stop-arming-israel/
and explore the many great links? One of them leads to this:
a snip:
International legal obligations relating to arms transfers
Among the applicable international legal obligations:
Customary international law
Pursuant to customary international law, as largely codified in the International Law
Commission’s Draft Articles on Responsibility of States for Internationally Wrongful
Acts of 2001, a State that aids or assists another State in the commission of an
internationally wrongful act by the latter is internationally responsible for doing so if: (a)
that State does so with the knowledge of the circumstances of the internationally
wrongful act; and (b) the act would be internationally wrongful if committed by that State
(Article 16).
This applies to arms transfers, as well as to other forms of support that make a significant
contribution to the unlawful act(s) such as logistical, technical or financial support,
intelligence, or provision of other equipment.
International Humanitarian Law
Common Article 1 to the four Geneva Conventions of 1949 places a standing obligation
on States to “respect and ensure respect” for the Conventions’ protections in all
circumstances. In its authoritative commentary to Common Article 1, the International
Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) explains that the Article 1 obligation requires, inter
alia, that States “refrain from transferring weapons if there is an expectation, based on
facts or knowledge of past patterns, that the weapons would be used to violate the
Conventions.”
Arms Trade Treaty (ATT)
The express purpose of the ATT was to prevent and reduce human suffering by
establishing common international standards for the transfer of conventional weapons. Its
Preamble refers to the obligations to respect and ensure respect for International
Humanitarian Law and to respect and ensure respect for human rights.
Under Article 6(3) of the ATT, States Parties undertake not to authorise any transfer of
conventional arms if they have knowledge at the time of authorisation that arms or items
would be used in the commission of genocide, crimes against humanity, grave breaches
of the Geneva Conventions of 1949, attacks directed against civilian objects or civilians
protected as such, or other war crimes as defined by international agreements to which
they are a Party.
Under Articles 7 and 11, State Parties undertake not to authorise any export of
conventional arms, munitions, parts and components that would, inter alia, undermine
peace and security or be used to commit serious violations of international humanitarian
law and international human rights law.
EU Common Position on Arms Exports 2008/944/CFSP
European Union (EU) Member States are also bound by the terms of the Council
Common Position 2008/944/CFSP of 8 December 2008 as common rules governing the
control of exports of military technology and equipment, and are, inter alia, required to
“deny an export licence if there is a clear risk that the military technology or equipment
to be exported might be used in the commission of serious violations of international
humanitarian law.”
OSCE Principles Governing Conventional Arms Transfers
Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe’s (OSCE) members, which include
the US , are required to adhere to the OSCE Principles Governing Conventional Arms
Transfers (OSCE Principles) in their arms export decisions. Principle 4 requires States to
“promote and, by means of an effective national control mechanism, exercise due
restraint in the transfer of conventional arms and related technology.” In order to give
effect to that principle, States “will take into account” a number of factors in considering
any proposed arms exports. They are then required to avoid any transfers which breach
any or all of the OSCE criteria contained within the OSCE Principles.
It is clear that the continued supply of arms exports and military aid to Israel is in violation of all these obligations. Over the years, unchecked and in many cases arguably internationally
unlawful military support to Israel has also enabled, facilitated and maintained Israel’s
decades-long settler-colonial and apartheid regime imposed over the Palestinian people as a
whole.
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much more at the links that reminds that arming "israel" has been illegal since long before South Africa took "israel" to the ICJ re the genocide of the Palestinian people. Is it what I first mentioned above that prevents international LAW from being applied whenever the criminals are "israel" and the bankster-funded western imperialists?
Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Feb 2 2024 17:56 utc | 57
Israeli Intel is the real poison product.
Putin and Corbyn condemn all terrorism and even Borrell and the ICJ don't believe the bollocks about Hamas killing 1200 Israelis.
Boycott Israeli war by deception.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 2 2024 17:59 utc | 58
Where do I sign in?...
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 17:52 utc | 57
You can sign here:
_____________________
You do realize Bill Ackman is never going to hire you if you include Israel, don't you? Now what would make Israel's case so different? Mmmm...Oh yes, it is the idea that Israel is "reclaiming" its land while it is in fact stealing it. So your wish is being fulfilled. How funny is that?
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 18:02 utc | 59
"Since we, the civilized peoples of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, killing and insulting Jews for the last 2,000 years, I suppose boycotting Israeli products is quite acceptable.
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 13"
Take a peek at the old testament, esp deuteronomy & Joshua.
Since "civilized" Jews have been robbing & genociding their neighbors for thousands of years, why is it surprising that they aren't welcome in many places?
Posted by: Mary | Feb 2 2024 18:07 utc | 60
"Since we, the civilized peoples of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, killing and insulting Jews for the last 2,000 years, I suppose boycotting Israeli products is quite acceptable.
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 13"
Take a peek at the old testament, esp deuteronomy & Joshua.
Since Jews have been robbing & genociding their neighbors for thousands of years, why is it surprising that they aren't welcome in many places?
Posted by: Mary | Feb 2 2024 18:10 utc | 61
Since we, the civilized peoples of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, killing and insulting Jews for the last 2,000 years, I suppose boycotting Israeli products is quite acceptable.
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 13
Of course it is. Because it has nothing to do with being jewish.
Posted by: NoName | Feb 2 2024 18:12 utc | 62
Posted by: james | Feb 2 2024 17:16 utc | 44
To be sure its only the tip of the iceberg. When I found out about it I was very pro Israel. And I was appalled. You shouldn't allow any foreign entity such control over our intl security infrastructure no matter how much you may like them. Then I found out about the USS Liberty.
Posted by: ralph conner | Feb 2 2024 18:15 utc | 63
I just searched israel phamacutical companys.
As thought ther are alot.
Hadnt' seen pharma mentioned much, if at all.
Back tommrow.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 2 2024 18:16 utc | 64
In this terminal phase of late-stage finance capitalism, you can't boycott the real targets effectively. The banksters profit no matter where you shop, unless you're able to meet all your needs from local producers- most of whom feed the banks through interest on their operating capital.
The crew at Bud Light suffers because of their trans marketing campaign, but AB InBev does not- most of the brands boycotters switched to are owned by the same parent company. They even profit on beer they don't own/brew via exclusive import deals. The beer industry in general isn't harmed- nor are the bankers that skim their earnings.
If nation states start boycotting all Israeli goods, and refuse to sell their own to the Zionist entity, then something will happen, but Israel is a global capitalism problem, and you can't spend your way out of capitalism. Voting with your wallet doesn't work when the same people own everything you can buy.
Posted by: Honzo | Feb 2 2024 18:23 utc | 65
Israel is not Judaism. I'd tired of this lazy conflation. Orthodox Jewry rightfully sees the state of Israel ..and particularly the Ersatz Israel nonsense..as heresy.
Conflating Judaism and Israel is what Zionists do, in order to deflect legitimate criticism, for example of the flagrant and deliberate extermination of people whose land Israel plans to steal.. into criticism of Jews generally. It's not Jews who are murdering children en masse in Gaza and enforcing a starvation siege...its Israelis.
Let's stop kidding ourselves Israel has anything to do with Judaism..except in the minds of the deluded war criminal Zionists. The Abrahamic religious nonsense is just specious justification for secular horror.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Feb 2 2024 18:28 utc | 66
I meant to add that if citizens get together and mount a tax strike in the countries that fund Israel, results might occur. In the US it would certainly mean going to prison- not for failure to pay taxes, but for advocating a concerted illegal action. If you thought RICO was invented to break the mob, I've got a zero-point energy system to sell you. The mob is doing fine, thank you very much, but RICO is finally coming out of the closet in the Trump indictments. That was what it was created for- make a felony of misdemeanors and vague associations to quash dissent. Note, please, that I am not advocating tax evasion, I'm merely noting that it would be more effective than consumer boycotts.
Posted by: Honzo | Feb 2 2024 18:29 utc | 67
Ah look Iran has hacked all the Mossad apparatchiks working clandestinely across the world.
Squeaky bottom time hasbarats - your cover is blown.
You can leave now and have some time to pack all your stuff or you can leave with 3 months notice carrying what you can on your flight out.
Or you can stay and apply for a Palestinian citizenship.
From the River to the Sea. None of it is yours.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 2 2024 18:29 utc | 68
Factually, the closest we have in history is the Warsaw Uprising. But it was nowhere near this scale. It's impossibly fucked up that Israelis could consider babies ok to murder, or enforcing the starvation of millions of people as a collective punishment to be legitimate, given their history. That's why you can only understand Israelis as ethnic supremacists.
The crimes of the Israel's mirror those of Nazi Germany. The world watches in horror. But this moment will not last.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Feb 2 2024 18:33 utc | 69
Personally, I've been boycotting Israeli products for 20+ years - which basically just refers to avocados.
However, publicly *calling* for a boycott is another thing.
Everybody in Germany knows the Nazi slogan "don't buy from Jews", and any boycott immediately invites "applause from the wrong side". There are far too many conservative/ far-right antisemites, and rather than hurting Israel, it might actually (further) endanger Jews living in Europe. They mustn't be the ones to suffer because of the policies of a country 5.000 km away!
Just my 2 cents.
Posted by: smuks | Feb 2 2024 18:38 utc | 70
Since we, the civilized peoples of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, killing and insulting Jews for the last 2,000 years, I suppose boycotting Israeli products is quite acceptable.
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 12
Equating Jews with Israel & Zionism is the devious strategy the latter use to usurp an entire people and its history under their agenda. There are many Jews who are not Israelites and are even fervent adversaries of Zionism.
Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Feb 2 2024 18:39 utc | 71
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 2 2024 18:16 utc | 64
In the US most of us have no say on the source of our Pharma,
I certainly do not like seeing Teva (and others) on my medicine bottles.
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Feb 2 2024 18:40 utc | 72
Doctor Eleven 66
HE R E S Y ! ? what's not heretical about saying that the Messiah and the Last prophet are fakes AS? Are we saying now that Heresy is anything that contradicts bollocks?
Because I've designed a crooked bridge you might like to make me an offer for.. and another one where money gets funneled to Ukraine and I go over from twime to twime to collect my shares in it.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 2 2024 18:43 utc | 73
Doctor Eleven | Feb 2 2024 18:28 utc | 66
You are right. Israel is not Judaism. But seeing how Jews have been persecuted and brutalized for two thousand years, because they have never had a place they could call their own, and have always been at the mercy of the rest of the world, you must understand that Israel is necessary for their survival. Why in that particular piece of real estate? Because it is their ancestral home. Personally I feel that the solution for this problem would be for Israel to offer Israeli citizenship to the Arabs living in Palestinian land and fully integrate them in Israel. After all there are already Israeli Arabs so the precedent exists. Would those Arabs want it? If they are smart they would. Otherwise they could move to any of the neighbouring Arab countries.
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 18:47 utc | 74
They won't accept two states, and certainly can't allow one state. So what do they want? The suggestions all amount to apartheid, and eventual ethnic cleansing, even though they deny that is what they are saying. "Yes, but I did not say that."
They are lying to themselves, as much as to us, because they cannot face up to what they are doing. We must not indulge their delusions, at the expense of their victims. Yet that is exactly what our politicians do, as demanded by AIPAC.
Posted by: Mark Thomason | Feb 2 2024 18:49 utc | 75
@ Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 17:25 utc | 47
subway and taco bell are on the first list i shared..
Posted by: james | Feb 2 2024 18:51 utc | 76
Let's stop kidding ourselves Israel has anything to do with Judaism..except in the minds of the deluded war criminal Zionists. The Abrahamic religious nonsense is just specious justification for secular horror.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Feb 2 2024 18:28 utc | 66
Specious justifications for secular horror are not insignificant. Religious ones abound in history, as well as secular ones, which are now the fashion. Of course, it's not always easy to draw the line. Anti-communism, Free Enterprise, Democracy and Human Rights are all specious justifications for secular horror, with as little, or less, connection to objective reality as the average religion.
Since Israel uses Jewishness as its raison d'etre, it's reasonable to address Jewishness in its entirety. We can't simply dismiss the connection that Jewishness- Jewish Identity- has with Zionism. While many individual Jews, both Orthodox and secular, are repelled by Israel's atrocities going back 75 years now, Jewish identity is still used as a lever to promote compliance with Zionist goals, and cognitive dissonance rears its ugly head keeping the majority of even secular Jews on the fence, or worse, as active apologists for Israel.
I am in no way advocating for pogroms, but just as I will never vote for someone who has been to Yale, and just as I will never trust an 'ex-CIA analyst,' I will be extremely careful which protestations of innocence I put any faith in from people who self-identify as Jews.
I think it's also worth asking what it is about being Jewish, however an individual defines it, that causes people to embrace it as their identity? For most Jews, ceasing to be Jewish is as simple as changing your name to something more Euro-goyish. Yet, all my life I've heard from secular Jews that, eg, because they are Jews they have a responsibility to reform Israel, or speak out against it, etc. If Israel is simply Zionism, what makes it a problem for secular Jews more than secular goyim?
Posted by: Honzo | Feb 2 2024 18:52 utc | 77
it's been 4 years since I commented.
Kudos b:
In my family it's been 5 decades shunning Israeli products as the Khazaarians ( of origin Ukraine?) continue with their terror.
Many non-Jews confuse Israeli Zionism with Judaism.
The Dark Inevitability of Zionism
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The Khazaar zealots and their apartheid mindset:-
Israel offers to pay African migrants to leave, threatens jail
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Some 38,000 African migrants live in Israel. New Israeli plan offers them $3,500 to leave.
Israeli president condemns rejection of Ehiopian-born MP as blood donor
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Israel gave birth control to Ethiopean Jews without their consent
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Israel has admitted for the first time that it has been giving Ethiopian Jewish immigrants birth-control injections, often without their knowledge or consent.The government had previously denied the practice but the Israeli Health Ministry’s director-general has now ordered gynaecologists to stop administering the drugs. According a report in Haaretz, suspicions were first raised by an investigative journalist, Gal Gabbay, who interviewed more than 30 women from Ethiopia in an attempt to discover why birth rates in the community had fallen dramatically.
One of the Ethiopian women who was interviewed is quoted as saying: “They [medical staff] told us they are inoculations. We took it every three months. We said we didn’t want to.” It is alleged that some of the women were forced or coerced to take the drug while in transit camps in Ethiopia.[.]
There was an apology.
And as we read and watch the tragedy unfolding in Palestine, there is a little unknown Jewish group countering Fuhrer Netanyahoo's thugs who are advocating for greater Israel from beyond the river to the sea. - not all Jews are silent, there is the other, well:
23 May 2021 R.T.
Meet the outspoken Rabbi who says Israel is a monster that should be removed from the map For some reason the LINK to RT not allowed.
Neturei Karta is a Jewish group whose controversial solution to the bloodshed in Gaza is to bring about the end of the Israeli state. RT.com spoke to Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, who explained why they think this is necessary.It’s not often you encounter a Rabbi with a Palestinian flag pinned to their jacket. But then Neturei Karta are anything but conventional.
They are a religious group of Haredi Jews whose name in Aramaic means ‘Protectors of the City’. The city in question is Jerusalem and the group is founded on their refusal to accept or recognise the state of Israel. Confused?
One of their main figures, Rabbi Weiss, explained their position to RT. He said, “Zionism is the transformation of Judaism, from religion, from subservience to God, into a material concept of nationalism. This is unacceptable to the ones who want to serve God. In order to create this nationalism, they are removing God from the equation.[.]
Rabbi Weiss continued, “[Zionists’] goal was to have their material state, and whatever stood in their way didn’t bother them. The Torah says thou shall not steal’ so every concept of Zionism is breaching the Torah. They knew our religion does not call for us to take up arms and take over the land. On the contrary, we are forbidden.” [.]
Memo to Rabbi Weiss:
be careful of the Israel Occupation Forces (IOF) thugs dressed up as Palestinian doctors and nurses.
Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 2 2024 18:59 utc | 78
I'm sure I read somewhere that the Israeli economy is suffering badly due to the their prolonged genocide of the oppressed Palestinians, added to this is that Israeli's are finding it harder to find workers/help as many Palestinians have either fled or been killed, I of course have no sympathy for the Israeli's on this matter.
On BDS and boycotting Israeli produce its a worthy cause these people can't be allowed to commit war crimes against the oppressed Palestinians and think that they'll be no consequences.
A few weeks a go I also read that Western banks are queuing up to fund new settlements on occupied Palestinian lands as soon as the real owners (the Palestinians) are removed or murdered for refusing to leave. Even today some old Palestinians still have the keys to the property that they were forced to leave many years ago, even though shiny new settler blocks have been built on top of their former homes.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 2 2024 19:08 utc | 79
thanks to b and all others who provide useful information on boycotting israeli products.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 2 2024 19:11 utc | 80
Let us not forget the complicity of the U.S.A. in the ongoing Genocide lead by Israel. I would not say all the U.S.A. is culpable, but certainly the a major block which generally constitutes major U.S. National corporations. Say boycott, disinvestment, and sanction should also include all major U.S. corporations; i.e. say anything that is listed on the NYSE.
Mom and pop stores should be given a pass.
Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Feb 2 2024 19:13 utc | 81
Long before zionism existed, jews were a people who refuse to work the land, a people who lived in cities and attached themselves to the upper class, serving as tax collectors who helped the rich rob the poor. In history, that's why when violent attacks upon jews happened they came from the peasants who finally got fed up with jews and their sucking up to the leisure class to enrich themselves at the expense of the "goyim", the working people who do all the work at the bottom of the heap of humans.
Some of you really need to read that book by Israel Shahak before you go on about how it's not jews just zionism that is problematic. Get yourselves a good look at how over and over the jews break their own racist, nasty rules toward gentiles when not doing so would reflect badly on jews.
And again, are all these "good jews" you insist do exist, upset by and campaigning against how extremely over-represented and over-powered jews are in usa government and banking?
quoting Shahak: "US support for Israel, when considered not in abstract but in concrete detail, cannot be adequately explained only as a result of American imperialist interests. The strong influence wielded by the organized jewish community in the USA in support of all Israeli policies must also be taken into account in order to explain the Middle East policies of American administrations. This phenomenon is even more noticeable in the case of Canada, whose Middle Eastern interests cannot be considered as important, but whose loyal dedication to Israel is even greater than that of the USA"
Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Feb 2 2024 19:14 utc | 82
ralph conner | Feb 2 2024 17:12 utc | 38
***... will set up Zionist friendly systems in intl ports which under the security aegis, give Israel the ability to oversee all activities at said ports remotely ***
The treacherous, corrupt UK regime now has a thing about inflicting "freeports".
The just as neoliberal/zionist/neocon parliamentary "opposition" are most unlikely to dissent.
These so-called "freeports" will almost certainly subject the British public for miles inland to rule by what will amount to private (armed supposedly to protect against "terrorism"?) militias.
Will such mafias be controlled by the Israelis?
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 2 2024 19:17 utc | 83
..think it's also worth asking what it is about being Jewish, however an individual defines it, that causes people to embrace it as their identity? For most Jews, ceasing to be Jewish is as simple as changing your name to something more Euro-goyish. Yet, all my life I've heard from secular Jews that, eg, because they are Jews they have a responsibility to reform Israel, or speak out against it, etc. If Israel is simply Zionism, what makes it a problem for secular Jews more than secular goyim?Posted by: Honzo | Feb 2 2024 18:52 utc | 77
I'm unable to answer any of this, but please don't mistake me.
I'm not trying to defend religious belief, I'm saying that conflating Israel and Jews is exactly what Zionists want.
What I think about the unknowable is irrelevant. What I think about religion generally can be summarized as:
They all claim that they have 'the Answer' When they don't even know the question They're just a bunch of liars They just want your money They just want your consciousnessFor the record I am not Jewish or any-ith other than aspirationally Zoroastrian perhaps though no flame burns in my home. I simply admire their precepts to the little I know them and consider the concept of good as knowledge or wisdom (Ahura Mazda) and evil as ignorance (Ahriman) to be rational and helpful civilizational ideals.
The Abrahmic religions are all death cults. I wish it were not so. Sorry not sorry, there are plenty of nice cultists but they're still cultists.
Just saying let's not play into the criminal Zionists agenda. Jews aren't bombing Palestine. Israelis with the connivance of Maerica and her vassals, are.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Feb 2 2024 19:20 utc | 84
you must understand that Israel is necessary for their survival.
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 18:47 utc | 74
One may be excused for repeating oneself when some are rather slow in the uptake but as the Breitbart article above said:
"Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) head Morton Klein...slammed the Biden administration on Thursday for its continued push for the creation of a hostile Palestinian state, arguing it would be a “major terrorist state,” and comparing the existential threat it would pose to Israel to the “Final Solution” to exterminate the Jews of Europe."
But as Abraham so and so above said, the Jews are "retaking" their lands and nobody can do anything about it, and as you say now, I hazard the guess that this schmaltz about the Final Solution is just a mountain of crap to justify the land grab.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Feb 2 2024 19:22 utc | 85
BDS is important as an individual stand and a small contribution.
What is necessary, and lacking, is loud and clear official condemnation, a stop to military, political, economic and moral support, at least downgrading diplomatic ties, and the activation of the sanctions mechanisms used in other situations, including in sports.
How many countries, especially Arab and Muslim ones, have lined up to fill the gap in UNRWA funding created by the US/Western criminal governments?
I share here a comment by Olga Kavran, who has long worked in international justice:
Extraordinary complicity and cynicism: the International Court of Justice (ICJ) finding that Israel has committed acts that could plausibly constitute violations of the Genocide Convention is insufficient to halt weapons sales and funding, while allegations against several UNRWA staff members (out of tens of thousands) are sufficient to suspend financing of humanitarian aid. Not to mention the fact that more than 150 UNRWA staff have also been killed in Israel's relentless hoffensive against the civilian population of Gaza.
Posted by: JB | Feb 2 2024 19:22 utc | 86
Excellent practical advice. Thank you, b. The true war is won by small daily actions repeated by millions.
Posted by: Michael A | Feb 2 2024 19:24 utc | 87
@james, Calgary Guy re: big list of names
The point is to do what you can. Start with products you can substitute, hopefully with local stuff (farmers' market!). Not using Intel is like telling people not to wear shoes these days. Most of my home comps have been AMD for a few years now, but they still contain Intel parts and some Intel IP. AMD does biz in Israel also, but they are not welded to the state like Intel seems to be. If you're communicating on a network anywhere, you've probably got a 8/10 chance of your electrons passing a component made or designed by Intel.
Sadly, I've stopped listening to much music over the past decade, as artists one-by-one stand up and profess their allegiance to Gog. I used to really like Joni Mitchell's "Coyote" but now it makes my skin crawl.
Posted by: Dr Wellington Yueh | Feb 2 2024 19:26 utc | 88
Here we go again. People lining up to defend jews and point fingers of blame at Arab/Muslim countries. All while Palestinians are being starved, tortured, kidnapped, murdered, bombed, sniped, denied any help whatsoever, denied a childhood, denied ANY good quality of life. Oh but no, "jews aren't bombing Palestine".
FFSake. The endless regurgitation of opinions that stay stuck in their well-worn mental grooves.
Pq, it was good knowing you. Thanks for all the great analysis - it was valuable education and I owe ya still.
Posted by: DuchessAndBob | Feb 2 2024 19:37 utc | 89
Add re: Intel
Their desktop market, at least for home buyers, is nothing. Doesn't exist. Unless you are a company, and can say "Gee...I think we'll try AMD this year." you won't scare Intel much. If your cohort notices you are not buying Intel things anymore, this may help to boost market sentiment.
Intel is on the out for other reasons, same as Boeing, same as IBM, same as some others.
Posted by: Dr Wellington Yueh | Feb 2 2024 19:46 utc | 90
Posted by: ralph conner | Feb 2 2024 17:12 utc | 38
I know probably an infinitesimal fraction of what you do on the ports, but I can say from experience with a management consulting firm, that the UAE, through a company based in Dubai (probably state sponsored), is also heavily involved in the management of shipping ports. They brought us on as consultants in streamlining their operations and handling some relations (i.e., executive level greasing palms) in the western world. IIRC, Trump's "Abraham Accords" "normalized" relations between Israel and a few other Gulf countries including UAE. It would not surprise me if you said that there is coordination between them in ways that they try to keep from the public. Do you know anything about that?
Also I liked your other comment and am hoping you'll contribute more in the future. It's nice to have experts weigh on on things.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2024 19:50 utc | 91
@ Dr Wellington Yueh | Feb 2 2024 19:46 utc | 90
Thank you for your comment. Which companies can be considered if searching for a cell phone or laptop? Is Apple on the 'kosher' list?
Posted by: fanto | Feb 2 2024 19:52 utc | 92
From the river to the sea,
Palestine will be free!
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Feb 2 2024 19:54 utc | 93
smuks | Feb 2 2024 18:38 utc | 70
*** ...and rather than hurting Israel, it might actually (further) endanger Jews living in Europe. They mustn't be the ones to suffer because of the policies of a country 5.000 km away!***
Oh dear, what a pity -- like nobody else gets hurt at all? Like nobody else even matters?
Because that's what happens thanks to the rabid Jewish ethno-centricity promoted by the Western political establishment. Jew, Jew, Jew .... all the fucking time year after year after decade. mass-media obsession (owing to disproportionate power within it) to a ridiculously oppressive extent, in all aspects of bloody well everything...
Maybe the Jewish non-Zionists --- apart from a comparatively small and brave number of Jewish dissidents, where are all the others who allegedly don't approve of Israeli excesses? --- ought to have long since been openly denouncing the Board of Deputies, AIPAC, ADL, Lubos, Starmer's ultra-racist squad within NuLab, a thoroughly rotten an anti-national economy full of financial spivs and exploitative economic cultists...
And yes it would matter, since the aggressive Zionists and financial spivs have been getting more and more laws brought in to prohibit any criticism of *their own* excesses. They demand, and get, ever more blatantly preferential treatment.
Only the non-extremist Jews can nowadays safely object -- but no, they mostly won't.
They repeatedly ended up in serious trouble for centuries by *covering up* for the thoroughly evil operators who used the innocent rest of them.
And it would very much seem, thanks to the electric fence of ethnocentric brainwashing and silence, that they still persist in doing so....
Posted by: Cynic | Feb 2 2024 19:56 utc | 94
"Israel is not Judaism. I'd tired of this lazy conflation. Orthodox Jewry rightfully sees the state of Israel ..and particularly the Ersatz Israel nonsense..as heresy.
Conflating Judaism and Israel is what Zionists do, in order to deflect legitimate criticism, for example of the flagrant and deliberate extermination of people whose land Israel plans to steal.. into criticism of Jews generally. It's not Jews who are murdering children en masse in Gaza and enforcing a starvation siege...its Israelis.
Let's stop kidding ourselves Israel has anything to do with Judaism.. except in the minds of the deluded war criminal Zionists. The Abrahamic religious nonsense is just specious justification for secular horror."
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Feb 2 2024 18:28 utc | 66
The best post I've read today and I have read hundreds. Thank you.
The only change I would make to your excellent argument is to change from, 'Zionists' to, 'Anglo/Zionists" as many Anglos (see Balfour, Churchill, Rockefeller, Gates et al) are on the same team.
Israel's main problem is being a US "ally." US just views Israel as a means to enrich the weapons industry. In my experience in Manhattan, liberal Jews don't relate to Israel at all. As to whom US elites want to eradicate most, it's not western Muslims. It's US citizens. That's why lockdowns were a dream come true for US elites. We were bound and gagged.
Posted by: susan mullen | Feb 2 2024 20:04 utc | 96
Posted by: North Patagonia | Feb 2 2024 15:41 utc | 4
‘ Agreed. I also believe the course of events may follow those of what happened after WWII. In 3-4 years, the ICJ will in all likelihood rule that Israel is currently committing genocide and crimes against humanity, and from there the Palestinians only need to follow precedent and the playbook established by the Zionists themselves:’
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The time for talk and deliberation runs short. Too many are dying. Too many innocents suffering horribly. What sort of world are we?
In 3-4 years, if in the meantime nothing with seriously threat of military action is done to protect Palestinians, the Israelis will have exterminated a huge swathe of the population. No, the world can no longer stand by and wait. If, after direct order from the ICJ to ceasefire, the Israeli genociders continue with their broadbased ethnic cleansing /murder campaign, and if the UN refuse to enforce the ICJs ruling, a strong multinational force must be deployed to confront and stop this aggression immediately.
Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Feb 2 2024 20:04 utc | 97
Since we, the civilized peoples of the Earth, have been persecuting, robbing, killing and insulting Jews for the last 2,000 years, I suppose boycotting Israeli products is quite acceptable.
Posted by: Sertorius | Feb 2 2024 15:52 utc | 12
Equating Jews with Israel & Zionism is the devious strategy the latter use to usurp an entire people and its history under their agenda. There are many Jews who are not Israelites and are even fervent adversaries of Zionism.
Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Feb 2 2024 18:39 utc | 71
Exactly!!!
Like a fractal sponge the intersection of the Jew/Zionist Venn diagram is truly a thing to behold!
Posted by: too scents | Feb 2 2024 20:12 utc | 99
I have to say that remarks such as those DuchessandBob @ 82 express, provide fertile ground for the likes of Sertorius @ 74 and elsewhere in this comments forum to justify Israel's genocide of Palestinians.
In the first place, in many Christian countries, Jewish people were forbidden to work the land. In Europe, the only areas where Jews were allowed to farm were in eastern Europe, where Poland-Lithuania, the Austro-Hungarian empire and the Russian empire met (in the so-called Pale of Settlement). Even in cities that had Jewish ghettos, most Jews living there were poor and themselves were exploited by richer Jews. The Jews who worked as tax collectors for Polish nobility were protected by their employers but their fellow Jewish poor suffered the brunt of persecution by peasants whose experience of Jews was limited to the tax collectors.
For all that, the irony is that for most of the past 2,000 years, the Jews were treated better in Muslim-ruled countries generally than in Christian countries, given that Israel sees its Muslim neighbours as a greater existential threat than faraway Western countries. Another irony is that Middle Eastern and North African Jews had to give up much of their culture when they migrated to Israel back in the mid-20th century, and what remains of their culture, especially their cuisine, is claimed as "Israeli", so these Jews have been subjected to cultural genocide and furthermore brainwashed by Israeli media and education over the decades into hating Palestinians.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Feb 2 2024 20:20 utc | 100
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Boycott companies that do business in Israel.
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