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'You Can’t Be Pro-Insurrection And Pro-American,' Says President Of Nation Founded By An Insurrection - The Babylon Bee - Jul 27, 2022

WASHINGTON, D.C. — The president shot back at what he called "Super Duper Ultra MAGA Turbo Titans" Monday as he claimed "you can't be pro-insurrection and pro-American" despite being the commander in chief of a nation founded by an insurrection.

"Can you imagine Thomas Jefferson calling for the blood of tyrants? What if John Adams refused to pledge fealty to King George? England would've nuked us to oblivion. It would've been total malarkey anarchy!" said the unblinking Biden, unflinching in the face of a citizenry increasingly questioning whether he is fit to be president.
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President Biden @POTUS - 0:14 UTC · Jan 6, 2024

You can’t be pro-insurrection and pro-America.


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Go Brandon

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 6 2024 8:07 utc | 1

Who would have thought that the White House includes The Babylon Bee as serious evening reading for Uncle Joe before Jill tucks him into bed and hands him his milk bottle?

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 6 2024 8:16 utc | 2

Insurrections are only justified against feudal systems.

oh well...

Posted by: SOS | Jan 6 2024 8:21 utc | 3

A New Year's Treat!

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Jan 6 2024 8:45 utc | 4

Brandon did in fact threaten Americans with F-15s and Nukes at the start of his Presidency. Extraordinary. One item is certain; The establishment is absolutely terrified of the populace.

Time to vote with your feet and leave for better pastures. When collapse finally does arrive - it’s going to be Spanish Civil War with a dash of Thirties Year War sprinkled with Chinese Warlord Era . Unimaginable horrors

Posted by: Exile | Jan 6 2024 8:46 utc | 5

“Over 140 police officers were injured,” Biden said of Jan. 6. “Jill and I attended the funerals of police officers who died as a result of the events that day. Because of Donald Trump’s lies. They died because these lies brought a mob to Washington.”

BREAKING: President Biden claims, "Jill and I attended the funerals of police officers who died as a result of" January 6. WATCH pic.twitter.com/PK2KtgLqDE
— Simon Ateba (@simonateba) January 5, 2024

On February, 2nd 2021, Biden and First Lady Jill Biden did visit the U.S. Capitol to pay their respects to deceased U.S. Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick who died of a heart attack on Jan. 7th, but it was not his funeral.

[..] in reality only protesters died due to the debacle.

From Infowars

Posted by: Dadda | Jan 6 2024 8:52 utc | 6

Genocide Joe Biden is an absolute horror. His glitching persona seems recently to have been replaced with AI generated speech functionality, so it’s not much of a surprise that he his regurgitating internet content.

Biden is AI minus the intelligence.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Jan 6 2024 8:56 utc | 7

The Biden Administration/Deep State is nothing but a self-anointed aristocracy, and “America” is its fiefdom.

Posted by: Robert Italia | Jan 6 2024 9:06 utc | 8

Its obvious that only one thing can postpone the Civil war in America, Its sad that it is WW3

Posted by: Lubomir | Jan 6 2024 9:15 utc | 9

Meanwhile Trump comes up with something even more awkward and creepy than Joe sniffing some kids hair.
God made TRUMP

https://t.me/beboandfriends/146256

Posted by: Hankster | Jan 6 2024 9:37 utc | 10

If you think the corrupt demrnted hair sniffer is bad, wait till you see President Nikki Haley.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 6 2024 9:52 utc | 11

Perhaps Babylon Bee could sue POTUS for copyright infringement, and demand the White House cease and desist retweeting Babylon Bee punchlines?

Posted by: Passerby | Jan 6 2024 10:57 utc | 12

Trump released his own equally terrible advert. "God made Trump"

https://t.me/myLordBebo/18939
The one on his site has a playback error.

Posted by: Hankster | Jan 6 2024 11:36 utc | 13

Every time Joe Stupid opens his mouth he puts his foot in it. Maybe he should just smile and wave and kiss babies --- er, scratch that last one.

Posted by: G. Poulin | Jan 6 2024 11:52 utc | 14

Brandon did in fact threaten Americans with F-15s and Nukes at the start of his Presidency. Extraordinary.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 6 2024 8:46 utc | 5
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I remember that also. It’s his basic mindset to deal with any problem nationally and internationally. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

Posted by: financial matters | Jan 6 2024 12:07 utc | 15

It’s his basic mindset to deal with any problem nationally and internationally.

Joe thinks he’s a badass, he really believes his story about cornpop.

Posted by: Fred777 | Jan 6 2024 12:13 utc | 16

Indeed. You can only be pro diapers🙌

Posted by: Iron Clad | Jan 6 2024 12:18 utc | 17

Time to start the Joe Tzu Pearl's of wisdom.

Posted by: jpc | Jan 6 2024 12:26 utc | 18

It is a sign of the times when a satirical site like Babylon Bee reports and analyses the news better than the MSM.

Posted by: marcjf | Jan 6 2024 12:30 utc | 19

Great catch, b. And great comments by the barflies.

Posted by: expat | Jan 6 2024 12:31 utc | 20

That's a great comparison! You'll love when we follow your historical precedent and declare Trumpers are all traitors subject to the death penalty. You know? Like King George did with his Proclamation for Suppressing Rebellion and Sedition? Can't wait to put these rabid dogs down!

Posted by: Chris B Critter | Jan 6 2024 12:32 utc | 21

"Finally, the image of Joe Biden wandering the White House in adult diapers telling stories of how he and Jesus Christ built an ark would be entertaining if the stakes weren’t so high." – Rob Urie

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 6 2024 13:11 utc | 22

He was only so upset because no-one had changed his soiled diaper and it was beginning to itch.

Now POTUS has got diaper-rash and it's all Putin's fault.

Posted by: scepticalSOB | Jan 6 2024 13:14 utc | 23

Yet it is important to realize that today is an anniversary of the January 6 "insurrection".

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 6 2024 13:17 utc | 24

Just wait until we get to January 27.

International Day of Commemoration in memory of the victims of the Holocaust.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jan 6 2024 13:20 utc | 25

"The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants"

Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: canuck | Jan 6 2024 13:31 utc | 26

Yup life is stranger than fiction. Here have some more aiming generally at the whole population not the few here who know it already.

I will repeat my realisation that USA was setup as a ‘nation’ to complete the European imperial nation states empire building.

A centuries long Zionazi project in world domination.
Centred around the Anglo European wholly owned monarchies. Using Money as its God and the City as one of its ancient Temple of power along with a few other European hubs.

The whole purpose of the USA is to create a bigger, more coordinated under a single language and identity, Protestant instead of Catholic, conquering nation - a pretend ‘difference’ but with the same promises of heaven and hell for both, just like Coke and Pepsi - to role up the Dutch, Spanish and Portuguese and ultimately French and English colonies. Forming the single world order , meeting shortly at Davos again, as it Descends into Collapse, after a millenia of success.

They failed again, in expanding into still unconquerable Lands and Peoples, such as EurAsia and bits of ME and Africa.

The US empire building started with the various European colonies in North America.and worked through the pacific and South Americas. Got Japan and Oz too!
Many vassals militarily occupied even especially Japan and Germany - run by appointees and military consuls and the Chicago Mafiosi’s best trained hoods - Emmanuel in Japan anyone?

That was the purpose of the ‘United’ states of ‘new Americans’.
A supposed new ‘race’ lols.
It worked quite well at that for the last century or so, but hit the buffers with the Russians and Chinese as had every previous attempt at taking EurAsia by those who have desired it for ever.

The failures to take North Koreans, ‘French’ Indochina and the resistance in the Middle East of the unbreakable Persians Syrians and Yemenis and other strengthening Resistance - is the never ending wars we witness as the US imperial state has stomped through its short and otherwise vacuous history.

The US has been a belligerent nation for all of its existence. A imperial stormtrooper vessel, the continent sized ,Death Star , the One Ring to Rule over all the Others… get it?

You ARE the BAD guys! The way you think, talk, act and what you believe. Your obsession with weapons, conspicuous consumption and fantasy individualism, whilst being forged into the most fascist, brainwashed Hollywoodised ’Culture’ and eschatological Nuevo evangelical Christian mumbo jumbo that unites under crazy Nazio sky fairy belief. That you have such certainty that allows you to mass murder yourselves daily, and genocide millions across the world and history , short as it is mercifully is the final iteration of conquistadors of the Holy Roman Empires Nation States. Set up to do the dog work for the Actual Masters of all of them. The murdering thugs of the ancient Silk Road where they invented Money.

The last hurrah is the illegal apartheid entity in the Levant which only came about post ww2 as a consolation prize for having failed to take EurAsia again and the reestablishment of their beloved Slave running , Toll taking Khazaria.
It would not have come into existence or even lasted more tga a few years without the muscle of the Slave USAians.

It was foing quite well in the Sahel under Clinton’s Bush’s and Obamas grabbing the last bits of French colonies - but they have hit the buffers there too now. As the following report indicates.

‘🇺🇲 The United States has imposed sanctions against Niger, Gabon, the Central African Republic and Uganda. Things there are clearly developing not in favor of the United States, and Washington continues to routinely impose sanctions against everyone it doesn’t like. Sanctions against Niger may once again raise the issue of expelling the American military base from Niger after the French. ‘
https://t.me/ZradaXXII/30441

That’s all folks!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 6 2024 14:09 utc | 27

"The US empire building started with the various European colonies in North America.and worked through the pacific and South Americas. Got Japan and Oz too!"

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 6 2024 14:09 utc | 28

The US Empire is but a tool of the City of London.

Period.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 6 2024 14:50 utc | 28

Looking forward to a team of future historians and psychiatrists working together to determine the exact moment when reality surpassed parody in absurdness based on the twitter history of a few selected pundits and celebrities

Posted by: pachinko | Jan 6 2024 16:07 utc | 29

Joe Pinhead and the Cenobites are pro-Hell.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jan 6 2024 16:13 utc | 30

Its obvious that only one thing can postpone the Civil war in America, Its sad that it is WW3

Posted by: Lubomir | Jan 6 2024 9:15 utc | 9

<=Maybe its the other way around, the breaking point will come, if the USA guides America into another war in foreign lands?

<= My viewpoint is the American people have been tolerant of unreliable media contents, government violations of the bill of rights, government operating in secret, total surveillance, and the greed of those who run the government that controls them. But tolerance has a breaking point. Support for psycho-metrically designed media, Genocide, foreign wars, and gifts of tax money and weapons containing American developed high technology to foreign people and foreign nations has pushed tolerance to the red line. How will that frustration be resolved is the question.

The declaration of independence July 4, 1776 addresses tolerance "Prudence.. will dictate that Government long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes.. and accordingly all Experiences hath shown, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are suffer-able, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty to throw off such Government...."


Posted by: snake | Jan 6 2024 16:29 utc | 31

In response to
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The US Empire is but a tool of the City of London.

Period.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 6 2024 14:50 utc | 28
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Us barflys have been beating this horse for years now. I have evolved to the point where I refer to the personage of empire as the God Of Mammon cult and I keep asking for the biggest Fortune 500 international trust funds instead of the richest individuals BS we are fed.

And I include Pope Frank and King Chuck in the cult for shits and giggles.

###############

Geriatric Genocide Joe is perfectly reflective of the systems he fronts....long in the tooth and dysfunctional.

The shit show continues until it collapses of its own internal hubris.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 6 2024 16:46 utc | 32

Its hard to make any sense of the already meaningless statements from this guy, and Con-gress critters in general. The beginnings of a recipe for disaster. Add to that recipe the secret sauce of in-yo-face liars such as Kirby, Blinken, Schumer, McConnell, Sullivan. Then add in a cute but seriously mixed up broad - Kamala. Then stir in some useless idiots - Austin and Milley. That is how you cook up the jumbelaya clown government destroying the world today.

Posted by: Áobh O'Sheachnasaigh | Jan 6 2024 17:07 utc | 33

The issue on today and on Jan 2021 is and remains election/ballot/counting fraud.

Not resolved despite the blob gaslighting!

Their democracy requires fraud to keep going.

Posted by: paddy | Jan 6 2024 17:26 utc | 34

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 6 2024 14:09 utc | 27:

The failures to take North Koreans, ‘French’ Indochina and the resistance in the Middle East of the unbreakable Persians Syrians and Yemenis and other strengthening Resistance - is the never ending wars we witness as the US imperial state has stomped through its short and otherwise vacuous history.

The idea of viewing the Empire's history since the end of WWII as its attempt to subjugate Eurasia is a notion worthy of ponderance. You are to be commended for an acute insight from a historian perspective :-).

Yes it does seemed the Empire, with obnoxious hubris and self-perceived military/economic/ideological might, has been in action to ordain itself as the lone occupant at the crown of the pyramid lording over the globe over the past 80 years.

The Empire has tirelessly tried, but of late has been kicking a wall of solid bricks. Wonder when it would wise up and size itself properly. Eurasia would NEVER be its prize.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jan 6 2024 19:24 utc | 35

Brandon did in fact threaten Americans with F-15s and Nukes at the start of his Presidency. Extraordinary. One item is certain; The establishment is absolutely terrified of the populace.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 6 2024 8:46 utc | 5
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I am sorry; what are you talking about?

Posted by: Ed | Jan 6 2024 19:31 utc | 36

"The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants"
Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: canuck | Jan 6 2024 13:31 utc | 26

https://michael-hudson.com/2023/05/the-arc-of-time-pro-creditor-history/

According to Mr. Hudson "they were called tyrants. The word “tyrant” meant someone who paved the way for democracy by liberating the population from debt dependency.

"Whos liberty and which tyrants?

The US Empire is but a tool of the City of London.
Period.
Posted by: canuck | Jan 6 2024 14:50 utc | 28
So Jefferson was free from CoL machinations?

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jan 6 2024 19:32 utc | 37

I suspect that the writers at the Babylon Bee could run circles around Slow Joe and the minions, multiple times, before the latter figured out they were tied up. What idiots...

Posted by: DakotaRog | Jan 6 2024 19:51 utc | 38

Dear USAmericans, the world needs peace, and that can only happen with regime change in the NeoLib+NeoCon dictatorship whose foreign policy is genocidal imperialism and home policy is Fascism sprinkled with rainbow flags.

But you guys don't have to hate each other not kill each other, because the "reds" (GOP, Republicans) and the "blues" ("democrats") are just a single party of the oligarchy, and they just fool you by trying ti divide you into 2 factions.
Those 2 factions are not real. They're just a virtual creation of their Divide & Conquer strategy/manipulation.

You don't have to be "pro-insurrection", like January-6. All you have to be is united as a people, against your real enemies. Those enemies are not in the "other party". Those enemies are not in Russia, China, Iran, Cuba, etc.
The enemies are in Washington, Pentagon, Langley, Silicon Valley, Wall Street.

It's time for people in USA to study the Portuguese revolution of carnations of 1974, where the military seized power, overthrew the fascist regime, and handed the power to the people, without bloodshed. That's exactly what USA and the World need right now.

If any bloodshed needs to happen, that must be in the MainStreamMedia. Operation MockingBird never ended and is now deeper than ever. MSM know only lies and manipulation, propaganda and omission, dishonesty and FakeNews. The system imposed by CIA and continued by some oligarchs is now too deep, too rooted, to be able to change.

CNN = FOX News, etc.
NYTimes = Financial Times, etc.
NeoLib = NeoCon.
Obama/Biden/Clinton = Bush/Trump.
NSA = Google.
CIA = Isis/AlQaeda/UkraNazis/naZionists.
You guys either understand this, or you understand nothing.

You don't need an insurrection or reds Vs blues, not blues Vs reds. You need to be together, as a people, and make a TOTAL regime change, the whole 99% against the 1%. You will know you have made USA great/decent again, once there is no longer anymore CIA/NSA, when Snowden is back at home, Assange is liberated, when Guantánamo is closed and de-occupied, when all the Military Industrial Complex is either dismantled or nationalized (so that you can end the "logic" of profit made by forever wars), when the minimum wage raises to at least double, when healthcare is a Constitutional right, when men are men and women are women, when you become a multi-partisan and proportional regime where millionaires can no longer decide, with their donations, who are the candidates that you can vote for, when you have a UN embassador that condemns nazis in Ukraine and naZionists in occupied Palestine (aka "Israel").

The fight between "MAGA red hat's" and "LGBT BLM progressives" is an illusion made to divide you and stop you from the necessary recolution against the fascist and genocidal oligarchy.
People of USA must be together, get the army on its side, and realize who the real enemy is. Then you can have the regime change the world need the most: total change in Washington, and something like the Nuremberg trials for the genocidal imperialists (and their PRESStitutes) that assassinated +20 million humans since 1945 in the so called name of "freedom and democracy".

But if you decide that you actually want a civil war, then I hope the end result is a mutual defeat of both sides (no one dominating anyone), and a division of the (no longer United) States into at least 3 new countries: NorthEast, West, and South+Central regions. All the luck to the secessionist movements.
The world will be a better place after this.

Posted by: Carlos Marques | Jan 6 2024 20:02 utc | 39

re: Ed Jan 6 2024 19:31 utc | 36

June 23, 2021: Biden says people would need "F-15s" and "some nuclear weapons" to take on the government

Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 6 2024 20:02 utc | 40

@ 39

Nice thoughts of getting the "Army" on the side of the people but almost all the flag officers are in on the ruling cartel side. When half (or more) of the current enlisted and junior officers walk when ordered to fight their own civilians, the cartel will fill the ranks with several million cannon fodder military age men (and some women) that the current regime has allowed to come into the country for the last three years.

The collapse/reorganization won't be peaceful like Portugal in 1974. Blood, lots and lots of blood, will be shed.

Posted by: DakotaRog | Jan 6 2024 20:14 utc | 41

Also, you can't be Pro-Genocide, and Pro-American. Genocide Joe needs to excuse himself from duty.

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Jan 6 2024 20:39 utc | 42

Whatever is coming as a result of the deafening screams of cognitive dissonance from the nuthouse that Biden presides over, I wish it would get it o er a done with so that the rest of the world can focus on life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Wading through the excrement that is generated by US foreign policy has gone on far too long

Posted by: eagle eye | Jan 6 2024 21:02 utc | 43

Little recognized fact. Congress declared the events of January 6 an insurrection. Unanimous in the Senate and 420-23 in the House.

Public Law 117-32
117th Congress

An Act

To award four congressional gold medals to the United States Capitol
Police and those who protected the U.S. Capitol on January 6,
2021.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. FINDINGS.

The Congress finds the following:
(1) Every day, the United States Capitol Police (``Capitol
Police'') protects the U.S. Capitol, Members of Congress,
congressional staff and institutional staff, journalists, and
the visiting public.
(2) On January 6, 2021, a mob of insurrectionists forced its
way into the U.S. Capitol building and congressional office
buildings and engaged in acts of vandalism, looting, and
violently attacked Capitol Police officers.
(3) The sacrifice of heroes including
Capitol Police Officers Brian Sicknick and Howard Liebengood,
Metropolitan Police Department Officer Jeffrey Smith, and those
who sustained injuries, and the courage of Capitol Police
Officer Eugene Goodman, exemplify the patriotism and the
commitment of Capitol Police officers, and those of other law
enforcement agencies, to risk their lives in service of our
country.
(4) Up to seven Americans died following this violent
attack, and more than 140 law enforcement officers suffered
physical injuries, including 15 officers who were hospitalized.
(5) The desecration of the U.S. Capitol, which is the temple
of our American Democracy, and the violence targeting Congress
are horrors that will forever stain our Nation's history.
(6) On April 2, 2021
Officer William ``Billy'' Evans was killed while protecting the
North Barricade of the Capitol. Officer Evans was a
distinguished member of the First Responders Unit and an
eighteen-year veteran of the United States Capitol
Police. Also injured in that assault
was Officer Kenneth Shaver. Officer Shaver is a fifteen-year
veteran of the United States Capitol Police.

Posted by: Zargo | Jan 6 2024 21:06 utc | 44

If you think the corrupt demented hair sniffer is bad, wait till you see President Nikki Haley.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 6 2024 9:52 utc | 11

I think you are right, and they will put Nikki Haley in the White House this time. They will call this placement-"a triumph of democracy", although the process will be as rigged as the previous one.

Reps will cheer that one of their own won, and Dems will revert to their 2016 "We was robbed" stance, while ordinary Americans who showed up on Jan. 6th 2021, to demand a recount, will continue to rot in prison as "insurrectionists".

And our ruling overlords will continue to point fingers, without a hint of shame, at other countries, screaming about their rigged elections, and their persecution of political opponents.

There are 50 countries having elections this year, among them countries unfavored by the USA.

Expect wild accusations of unfair elections, (which started early with Serbia), especially if the Taiwanese refuse to be the New Ukrainians, in their elections later this month.
Followed, of course, by shrill screaming about the rigged election in Russia, when Putin wins.

And so on, throughout the year.

The only election which will not be accused of rigged and unfair will be the US one in November. Not only will the Mighty Wurlitzer insist that it was the Most Honest Election Ever, anyone who disagrees will promptly be thrown into jail.

Cause......Freedom.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jan 6 2024 21:30 utc | 45

I am ashamed to say that I am an American. May god have mercy on our nation. The elites won't.

Posted by: Myster Dystopia | Jan 6 2024 21:36 utc | 46

The United States should rename itself the Retard Republic. What a colossal embarrassment.

Posted by: Matthew | Jan 6 2024 21:41 utc | 47

I'd say i'd prefer futurama's approach to revigorating past presidents than whatever necromancy is performed as of now.

Posted by: kspr | Jan 6 2024 21:46 utc | 48

Understand that only 4 percent of the Army is infantry/SOF. 96% is composed of make work bullshit workfare jobs populated by incompetent DEI hires.

Marines are slightly higher. All told we have about 60 thousand actual war fighters. A little more than what Hamas has and probably a little less than what Hezbollah has.

That tiny 4 percent fighting force is almost entirely white male conservative Trump supporters. 85 percent of the fighter/bomber pilots are white conservative Trump supporters.

The tiny white part of the US military that can actually fight hates Biden and will not follow any unlawful order to turn their weapons upon US citizens. The other 96 percent diversity clown show poses little threat. The average blue collar worker deer hunter will slaughter them.

Obama conducted a service wide purge of Officers who were loyal to the Constitution. Might Trump have covertly reinstated them? He occasionally refers to “the real Generals.”

The last part is my conjecture. But the first part is most certainly true. The fighting US military is with you.

Posted by: RLTW | Jan 6 2024 21:57 utc | 49

What is this senile meat puppet talking about? The US supports non-stop color revolutions all over the planet! Do we not remember Yugoslavia? Libya? Syria? Ukraine? Jan 6 would have been the tamest day of the months-long Maidan color revolution which career DC pinheads like Biden fully encouraged and supported. If Jan 6 happened in any other country Biden and co. would be demanding sanctions and no-fly zones and ratlines of small-arms and man-pads. God forbid the populace demand a clear and accountable election process! The hyperbole of Deep State propagandists is ridiculous.

Posted by: benzanotto | Jan 6 2024 22:00 utc | 50

Avoiding the US may becoming a healthy trend ...

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jan 6 2024 22:11 utc | 51

@Gee Eye Joe | Jan 6 2024 20:39 utc | 42

Also, you can't be Pro-Genocide, and Pro-American.

Well, why don't you hop into your little time machine and travel back and tell that to the expansionists with their "Manifest Destiny" pogrom.

Posted by: majoab | Jan 6 2024 22:11 utc | 52

Its obvious that only one thing can postpone the Civil war in America, Its sad that it is WW3

Posted by: Lubomir | Jan 6 2024 9:15 utc | 9

<=Maybe its the other way around, the breaking point will come, if the USA guides America into another war in foreign lands?

Posted by: snake | Jan 6 2024 16:29 utc | 31

Yes, there's even a historical precedent for such a development.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jan 6 2024 22:20 utc | 53

what the floating head of Al Gore couldn'
t tell us.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jan 6 2024 22:31 utc | 54

To majoab @ post 52;

Thanks, I was waiting for someone to call me out over my post at 42. Of course, genocide is as American as apple pie. Afterall that is what the U.S.A. was founded on. (I suppose that is why Genocide Joe is President.) But I said what I said in hopes of changing that agenda. Looking at the way things are going in Palestine, and elsewhere the U.S.A. has its dirty paws, looks like that is wishful thinking.

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Jan 6 2024 22:39 utc | 55

You can’t fight F-15s with AR-15s. Well Joe. Apparently the Taliban didn’t get that memo. Our F-15s dropped JDAMs on the Afghan goat herders for 20 years. And they kicked our ass. Of course they weren’t armed with AR-15s they had a secret Uber weapon…oh what is it called? Oh yeah! AK-47s!

Joe. You think you can subdue a populace armed with 400 million rifles? Well crank it up fucker! Bring it on!

Posted by: RLTW | Jan 6 2024 23:21 utc | 56

America wasn't founded via insurrection. An insurrection is an event intended to take over an existing government.

America was founded via secession. The American colonies didn't want to take over the British Crown. They didn't want to replace George III. They wanted to be out from under his oppression. They wanted to secede. You know...like Donetsk and Luhansk...like the Confederate States of America.

Posted by: Wade Hampton | Jan 7 2024 0:45 utc | 57

@ Posted by: Zargo | Jan 6 2024 21:06 utc | 44

Good try. No cigar.

“ ..U.S. Capitol, which is the temple..”

Never a truer word said in jest?

The city of London has areas named temple. The law chambers are temples. There is a temple in the BoE. It’s been around since the Romans.

You are equating DC and the City - I agree with you.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 7 2024 1:13 utc | 58

Everyone seems to think that these White House brain-farts are acts of simple incompetence or stupidity. It's equally possible (and perhaps even likely) that it's perfectly deliberate. That they are just rubbing everyone's nose in it, and laughing all the time as they do so.

And as for Posted by: Passerby | Jan 6 2024 10:57 utc | 12

A brilliant idea. They may or may not do so, but you just KNOW they're going to run with this somehow.

Posted by: DougK | Jan 7 2024 1:33 utc | 59

Been shot? Got shrapnel in your body? Seen your brothers die? Put a tourniquet on your brother’s missing leg while he screams? Have you ever fired a shot in anger? Have you even heard a shot fired in anger? Fucking intellectual faggots.

It’s the hard ass Scott’s Irish redneck crackers like me thats gonna save your asses. Again. Like we always have. Except this time we’re not going to the Middle East to fight for the Bibi genocidal Jew. We’re not going to the Ukraine to fight for the Zelensky piano penus Jew.

No we’re just gonna stay here and slaughter Biden’s invaders. Time to to clean our own house and look out for our own people.

Yeah. We’re about to crank it the fuck up!

Posted by: RLTW | Jan 7 2024 2:33 utc | 60

DunGroanin, 58, the temple of Doom. Christ, some of the shit these morons come up with.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Jan 7 2024 3:18 utc | 61

The J6 "report" was done by Liz Cheney, you do remember that her Dad is Dick, right? And a bunch of other hacks that will do anything to protect the blob. I heard that they actually deleted the minutes, so no one can look at what was actually said. Typical of these worthless, useless eaters.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Jan 7 2024 3:33 utc | 62

@RLTW
You might be a honeypot but you're refreshing anyway, heh heh.

Posted by: comrade simba | Jan 7 2024 4:03 utc | 63

@ Zargo | Jan 6 2024 21:06 utc | 44

The vote cannot have passed the House 420 to 23 as you say, because that would mean a total vote of 446, but the House of Representatives only has 435 voting members. According to https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3325/all-actions?overview=closed&q=%7B%22roll-call-vote%22%3A%22all%22%7D , the actual vote was 406 to 21, leaving 8 abstentions or not voting. The Senate evidently decided this only on a voice vote without any exact tally, so it cannot be called unanimous either.

When the US Congress votes for anything, that does not make it legitimate. The public generally hates the Congress. Recent Congressional job approval polls showed 62% disapproving and 16% (20 Dec.) and 20% (2 Jan.) approving. See https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls . This is the same Congress which almost unanimously approves of the genocide in Gaza, which makes them all, with a possible very few exceptions, accessories to that genocide as well as traitors to the United States. And that is only a foreign issue. What about their many betrayals of the US public on internal issues?

This does explain, however, why they think they have to stomp hard on the opposition. But it is likely to contribute to the path to internal civil strife in the US. The number of people arrested and jailed is paltry compared to the number enraged by the government's action.

Posted by: Cabe | Jan 7 2024 4:16 utc | 64

@ Carlos Marques | Jan 6 2024 20:02 utc | 39
@ DakotaRog | Jan 6 2024 20:14 utc | 41
@ RLTW | Jan 6 2024 21:57 utc | 49
@ RLTW | Jan 7 2024 2:33 utc | 60

Bringing up the role of the military in possible civil strife in the US is crucial. It isn't sufficient to say the people are disgusted so there will be some kind of revolt that will overthrow the evil system. The devil is in the details; one needs to try to anticipate exactly how this might unfold. Now, wagelaborer | Jan 6 2024 21:30 utc | 45 above imagines that the system will simply continue to override and crush all opposition, albeit maybe more blatantly, with more use of force, and that certainly appears to be their intention. So one has to try to understand and locate how some different outcome might be.

I myself recently cited the Portuguese military-led revolution of 1974, as carlos marques does here, as a possible precedent. That is, the US military might become anti-imperialist from experiencing the reality of the wars those in control of the US foreign policy have been waging against many foreign countries. RLTW, a military veteran, testifies to that alienation exactly, and in fact sounds pretty angry about it, and I can add to that that one of my students, a veteran of Iraq, feels exactly the same, and I have shared a lot of conversations with him about that. This has to be taken seriously, and one can be sure the government is also aware of it. It is objected that the military officers are promoted based on their political reliability, and that is likely enough, when one sees all of the apologists for imperialism among the US generals. But the Portuguese revolution was mainly led by younger officers, was it not? So it seems to me that the revolutionary possibilities exist and have not been exhausted. I also, however, have to agree with DakotaRog that any revolution in the US is likely to be contested and very, very bloody, not easy.

Where I do not agree with RLTW, despite the understanding I have of where he is coming from and my respect for his views, is the idea that the immigrants would form a sort of praetorian guard protecting the deep state. Yes, there are mercenaries, but they don't necessarily have loyalty to those paying them, if they see the wind is blowing the other way. Also, most immigrants are non-military. I myself, while I am just an ordinary American citizen whose last ancestor to immigrate to the US came from Norway in 1885, married abroad, brought my wife back with me, and helped her, some of her family, and two of my friends to immigrate, so I would urge one not to exclude all immigrants as possible allies and friends of the people in this matter. Not all immigrants by any means will back the deep state.

Also, understand where I am coming from, like it or not. I was brought up as a liberal democrat, so that is my whole family tradition, and some of my family are still in it. But I have been progressively alienated from that so-called liberalism, and each new step in public policy in the US has led me to a further deepening of my contempt for the entire system and the feeling that it is completely irredeemable and must be replaced with something else. This started with my rejection of the Vietnam War, about which I said,

The masters mention not two million bled
And burnt to death in Vietnam, these led
As innocent victims to a slaughter cruel
But hidden by the press; such is the rule.
I wish I knew how came the Nazis' crime
To be the vilest found in any time,
While Vietnam's unavenged dead they make
The victims of an innocent mistake.

I can hardly believe the degradation the country has fallen into, and my heart goes out to my college students who find their futures so circumscribed by neoliberalism and are filled with growing anger at being permanently relegated to gig jobs as waiters and waitresses. Were I much younger, I think I would seek to migrate elsewhere, but Philadelphia is home for my children, and for better or worse we are just committed to staying here and doing our best to survive.

Oh, and carlos is right that the attempts of the establishment to divide the people on left and right lines should be rejected. That is all fake.

Posted by: Cabe | Jan 7 2024 5:06 utc | 65

saw the following headline on RT.com tonight:

"Trump talks like a 'Nazi' – Biden"

I was very disappointed that they didn't use one of the dark brandon photos to illustrate the story.

Posted by: retroflecks | Jan 7 2024 5:48 utc | 66

re: Congress passed bill officially declaring Jan.6 an "insurrection".

Posted by: Zargo | Jan 6 2024 21:06 utc | 44

Interesting.

Someday it will no longer tenable to deny the hundreds of Federal Law Enforcement Officers and federally approved/guided "Assets" that instigated and orchestrated the Fed-surrection.

It will then be fun to watch swamp-critters try to redefine the events as "not really an insurrection" with the document you posted on record.

Posted by: retroflecks | Jan 7 2024 6:00 utc | 67

@ Cabe, #65

Professor, I pray for protection for you and your family and your students. Western NJ and eastern PA will be no easy day if things go bad and a civil war goes hot. Sort of ironic that southeast PA that was founded by pacifist Christians could turn into one of the bloodiest areas of conflict, although it has history with Gettysburg being forced upon it in 1863. I don't know what to say except that I hope it doesn't happen but I totally understand it if it does. I think the off-ramps to not having such a fight are closing on a regular basis. Perhaps the coming economic turtle turning somehow derails it. Maybe that's wishful thinking.

RLTW- My kid is a E-5 "grunt" not associated with the Navy ground forces. He's in his 2nd contract but can't wait until its over. He doesn't carry your scars but he has become disillusioned with the lies he's been told. He and I have had very frank talks and I have no doubt that he and most of his NCOs friends would go AWOL and desert before they would turn their weapons on the American public. His current platoon has been at 50% strength since he got to his new duty station last year. Most of the "missing" men are E-4s and lower.

My paternal side has only been in the states for 150 years and were basically Christian pacifists as well but not officially declared such as the Quakers or the Anabaptist German speaking people. That has changed over time, especially with WWII. My uncle got drafted late for his age in 1944 and ended up fighting in western and central Germany. He won the Bronze Star with Valor by taking out a German machine nest single handily with his M-1, something that most of us never knew about until he died in his mid-80s. His biggest struggle with his war experiences was that he may have been killing his distant cousins.

His cousin spent almost 3 years in the Pacific with one 6-week rotation back to Hawaii for R&R. "Jacob" never talked about the war and ended up drinking too much whisky over time in the post-war years. His brother, who served in the army of occupation in Germany, after "Jacob" died wrote a letter to a surviving junior officer of Jacob's unit and found out details out about his brother's service. On one occasion in the Philippines, I think it was on Leyte long after MacArthur had come and gone, Jacob's mortar crew shot over 1,500 rounds in a 3-day event. I don't think Jacob won any medals for valor but basically did his "grunt" work well.

RLTW- I'm thankful you have been there for your brothers in arms, in the end that's what men usually fight for. I don't know what else to say...

Posted by: DakotaRog | Jan 7 2024 6:11 utc | 68

(discussing the composition of US Army infantry...)

...

That tiny 4 percent fighting force is almost entirely white male conservative Trump supporters. 85 percent of the fighter/bomber pilots are white conservative Trump supporters.

...

Posted by: RLTW | Jan 6 2024 21:57 utc | 49

Eyeball guestimate from about 10 years ago for enlisted ethnic composition:
~ 1/3 white
~ 1/3 black
~ 1/3 hispanic

A large percentage of Native Americans serve, but their percentage contribution to the overall Army population is relatively small (echos of a successful genocide).

Asians & Pacific Islanders also make a pretty small percentage.

Jews have a vanishingly small representation: the Jews who will "fight" end up in Israel, those who won't fight move to America. The extremely few American Jews who actually serve in the US Army are mostly there just to send updates back to the ADL and SPLC, to keep the databases on non-Jewish Americans up to date... because der Führer showed us all how important it is to keep good records.

I can't speak for how many are Trump supporters. The majority of Army is first enlistment "kids" about 20 years old. Roughly 1/2 to 2/3 of these are in the army for college money, and IMHO haven't yet worked out exactly what their political leanings are.

Posted by: retroflecks | Jan 7 2024 6:22 utc | 69

re: Congress passed bill officially declaring Jan.6 an "insurrection".

Posted by: Zargo | Jan 6 2024 21:06 utc | 44

Interesting.

Someday it will no longer tenable to deny the hundreds of Federal Law Enforcement Officers and federally approved/guided "Assets" that instigated and orchestrated the Fed-surrection.

It will then be fun to watch swamp-critters try to redefine the events as "not really an insurrection" with the document you posted on record.

Posted by: retroflecks | Jan 7 2024 6:00 utc | 67

watch:
@TuckerCarlson
Ep. 61 This the smartest, best informed account of what actually happened on January 6th.

Posted by: retroflecks | Jan 7 2024 8:03 utc | 70

As Oscar Wilde said, life imitates art.

Posted by: Leuk | Jan 7 2024 12:30 utc | 71

According to Mr. Hudson "they were called tyrants. The word “tyrant” meant someone who paved the way for democracy by liberating the population from debt dependency.

"Whos liberty and which tyrants?

The US Empire is but a tool of the City of London.
Period.
Posted by: canuck | Jan 6 2024 14:50 utc | 28
So Jefferson was free from CoL machinations?

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jan 6 2024 19:32 utc | 37

You are correct the word 'tyrant' in Greek meant 'straightener' and they were actually good for the polis/city as they ameliorated the rich/poor gulf with policies such as Debt Jubilee. Hudson explains it much better than I , of course.

The Elite/aristos in Greece gave the term 'tyrant' a negative connotation for obvious reasons; that is the form Jefferson used in the quote.

Jefferson was free from City of London machinations. Jefferson was totally against an American Central Bank:

"Hamilton had conceived of the idea for a national bank as early as 1779, over a decade before he was able to advocate for the creation of one as Treasury Secretary in 1790.

And as early as 1781, Hamilton wrote about the idea of a national bank in a letter to Robert Morris, the U.S. Superintendent of Finance under the Articles of Confederation from 1781-1784.

In crafting his idea for a national bank, Hamilton was influenced by the charter of the Bank of England and Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations.In 1791 Congress accepted Hamilton’s proposal for a national bank and passed a bill which, if signed by President George Washington, would grant a 20-year charter for the creation of such a bank.

But James Madison, perhaps the most influential member of Congress at the time, along with Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson and Attorney General Edmund Randolph, all residents of agrarian Virginia who distrusted northern financiers, wanted Washington to veto the bill.

And Washington remained unsure about the constitutionality of the proposal.

So he sent Hamilton a letter with comments by Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson on why Washington should veto the bill and gave Hamilton one week to provide his rebuttal.

Jefferson had argued that the constitution did not explicitly give the federal government the authority to charter a national bank.

And he argued that the necessary and proper clause of the US constitution could only be applied when the legislation in question was necessary - not merely if Congress deemed it convenient - to the execution of Congress' explicitly enumerated powers, and therefore, could not be used to suggest that Congress has the implied power to create a national bank.

Hamilton spent the next week preparing his thoughts and worked through the night of February 22 drafting his rebuttal, which amounted to almost 15,000 words.

His rebuttal argued for a looser reading of the necessary and proper clause than Jefferson's. He suggested that reading the clause as only being applicable when the legislation in question was absolutely necessary would be debilitating, restraining the government from fulfilling its duties: in a world of uncertainties, how can we know for sure what is absolutely necessary?

And if we accept a looser reading of the necessary and proper clause as being applicable to anything Congress deems useful in the discharge of its duties, then it is implied that Congress can do things – such as creating a national bank to collect taxes – which it deems to be useful to discharge its explicitly stated powers and obligations under the constitution – such as collecting taxes – even if the constitution doesn’t explicitly state that Congress has the authority to create a national bank.

Hamilton’s rebuttal managed to convince Washington of the bank’s constitutionality and Washington signed the bill into law, creating the Bank of the United States (1791-1811).(1)"

Clearly, Jefferson wanted no part of C of L machinations.

And to buttress my argument Jefferson died bankrupt in 1826 (2). I am quite confident that if he had colluded with the City of London he would have died a wealthy man.

1. https://www.socialscience.international/bank-of-the-united-states

2.https://www.varsitytutors.com/ca/earlyamerica/why-thomas-jefferson-died-broke


Posted by: canuck | Jan 7 2024 13:34 utc | 72

"America wasn't founded via insurrection. An insurrection is an event intended to take over an existing government.

America was founded via secession. The American colonies didn't want to take over the British Crown. They didn't want to replace George III. They wanted to be out from under his oppression. They wanted to secede. You know...like Donetsk and Luhansk...like the Confederate States of America."

Posted by: Wade Hampton | Jan 7 2024 0:45 utc | 57

Insurrection versus secession: a distinction without a difference.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 7 2024 13:45 utc | 73

On corruption related matters at the top......

Craig Murray's thoughts on the release of an Epstein contact list.
He makes a good point, that a lot of the present "official" narrative (ie. that given in the mass-media) in the mass-media does not quite add up.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 7 2024 13:52 utc | 74

Posted by: Cabe | Jan 7 2024 4:16 utc | 64

Thanks for the correction on their vote total. Voice “votes” in the Senate are done by, “Unanimous Consent”. If a Senator disagrees with the Chairs declaration of Unanimous Consent”, the Senator must call for a roll call vote. The absence of a single Senator objecting, means it is by Unanimous consent.

Posted by: Zargo | Jan 7 2024 14:06 utc | 75

Mama always said, “Brandon is as Brandon does.”

Posted by: OldFart | Jan 7 2024 17:40 utc | 76

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