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January 22, 2024
U.S. Claims No Alternative To Larger Middle East War

Mainstream media propagandize their readers not only by what they report but also by not reporting on certain views and issues.

A prime example is a recent New York Times 'news analysis' of a White House position on U.S. troops in the Middle East.

The author is Peter Baker the Times chief White House correspondent.

The headline:

As U.S. and Militias Engage, White House Worries About a Tipping Point
The number of attacks on American troops in the Middle East increases the risk of deaths, a red line that could lead to a wider war.

Another day, another barrage of rockets and another spark that American officials fear could set off a wildfire of violence across the Middle East.

The latest attack on American troops in the region over the weekend resulted in no deaths, but President Biden and his advisers worry that it is only a matter of time. Whenever a report of a strike arrives at the White House Situation Room, officials wonder whether this will be the one that forces a more decisive retaliation and results in a broader regional war.

Baker fails to analyze the White House's assumption. He assumes that there is no alternative, TINA as the deceased British prime minister  Maggie Thatcher used to say.

The only response to a deadly attack would be a wider war without it being said how that war would be waged, against whom or for what purpose.

A hint comes only further down in the piece:

As of Thursday, Iranian-backed militias had already carried out 140 attacks on American troops in Iraq and Syria, with nearly 70 U.S. personnel wounded, some of them suffering traumatic brain injuries. All but a few have been able to return to duty in short order, according to the Pentagon.

American forces have at times mounted retaliations, but in limited fashion to avoid instigating a full-fledged conflict.

Biden administration officials have regularly debated the proper strategy. They do not want to let such attacks go without a response, but on the other hand do not want to go so far that the conflict would escalate into a full-fledged war, particularly by striking Iran directly. They privately say they may have no choice, however, if American troops are killed. That is a red line that has not been crossed, but if the Iranian-backed militias ever have a day of better aim or better luck, it easily could be.

It seems like everything happening and every groups in the Middle East is assumed to be 'Iranian backed'.

But neither Hamas, nor Hizbullah nor Iraqi militias nor the Houthi are 'Iranian backed'. They are allies of Iran and each other, not proxy fighters. They make their own weapons and munitions and take independent decisions.

Neither Iran nor Hizbullah nor any other entity besides Hamas knew that the October 7 attack on the Zionist state was coming. Their responses, as far as there were any, followed only after Hamas had already returned to the Gaza strip. To claim that everything and everyone who has a grudge against U.S. positions in the Middle East is 'Iranian backed' is a simplistic propaganda claim that lacks evidentiary backing.

It is evidently made, just like the rest of Baker's piece, to prepare the public for an 'inevitable' war on Iran. A war in which the U.S. would likely suffer another defeat.

To back his thesis of an alternative free decision the Times consults an 'expert':

“The administration confronts a problem without a risk-free solution,” said Aaron David Miller, a longtime Middle East peace negotiator now at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “They don’t want to strike Iran directly for fear of escalation, which only widens the margin for pro-Iranian groups, including the Houthis, to strike at U.S. forces. At some point, if U.S. forces are killed, they’ll have no alternative but to respond directly against Iranian assets.”

There are of course other alternatives and 'risk-free solutions'.

Under international law U.S. military bases in Syria are illegal. There is no UN Security Council resolution that allows for a military intervention in Syria nor has there been an invitation of U.S. troops from the Syrian government.

The U.S. position in Iraq are likewise illegal. The Iraqi parliament has voted against all U.S. bases in its country. The government of Iraq has demanded that U.S. troops leave and seeks negotiations to make that happen. The so called Iraqi militia and its commanders are by the way an integrated part of the official Iraqi army. Any attack on them is an attack on the Iraqi state.

The U.S. could simply recall its troops from Syria and Iraq. That would surely end all attacks against them.

The U.S. has intervened in Yemen by bombing troops of the Ansar Allah government which was seeking to blockade ships related to Israel until it lifts its siege from Gaza.

U.S. related ships were only attacked after the U.S. launched what amounts to an all out war on Yemen.

The U.S. is free to pull its military from its position in Syria and Iraq. The U.S. could stop its attacks on Yemen at any moment. That would immediately end Yemeni attacks on U.S. assets without changing anything else. The U.S. could refuse to support the genocidal war against Gaza.

All these moves would stop the current hostile action against U.S. assets.

But nether of these alternatives is ever mentioned in Baker's piece. There are no alternatives in it because he refuses to provide and discus them.

Baker ends with a quote from the White House:

“We have to guard against and be vigilant against the possibility that, in fact, rather than heading towards de-escalation, we are on a path of escalation that we have to manage,” Jake Sullivan, the president’s national security adviser, said last week during an appearance at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

“It remains a central locus of our strategy,” he added. “Try to ensure that we manage escalation across the Middle East to the maximum extent possible, taking every possible measure that we can in that regard, and ultimately get on a path of diplomacy and de-escalation.”

There is again, in Sullivan's view, no alternative but the simplistic task of 'managing escalation' which inevitably will lead to further clashes. This even when a clear alternative is simply to move out and to stop all military engagement in the relevant countries.

TINA as claimed by the Times and the White House does not exist. There are always alternatives to war.

Comments

This is a case of drawing a red line that, if crossed, will result in escalation by the U.S. But why draw that line unless you are seeking to create a pretext for war? The intent is obvious. One wonders, could American leadership be any worse?

Posted by: Rob | Jan 22 2024 22:56 utc | 101

The war gets closer, this is the Daily Mail in the last half hour.
British and US troops have hit Houthi missile sites in Yemen with a second wave of joint airstrikes, US officials have said. They used warship and submarine-launched Tomahawk missiles, as well as fighter jets, to take out Houthi missile storage sites and launchers, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The joint operation comes after US and UK warships and jets hit more than 60 targets in 28 locations on Thursday January 11. That was the first US military response to what has been a persistent campaign of Houthi drone and missile attacks on commercial ships since the start of the Israel-Hamas war in October.
It comes as Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and US president Joe Biden had a phone call this evening in which they discussed the ongoing attacks on Red Sea vessels by the Iranian-backed militia.

Posted by: JohninMK | Jan 22 2024 23:07 utc | 102

Whatever Israel decides to do the philosophers of Europe will be backing it.
“…If you doubt that, just take a look at leading European philosopher Jurgen Habermas and a few of his colleagues, who in an astoundingly barefaced act of cruel vulgarity, have come out in support of Israel’s slaughter of Palestinians. The question is no longer what we might think of Habermas, now 94, as a human being. The question is what we might think of him as a social scientist, philosopher and critical thinker. Does what he thinks matter to the world anymore, if it ever did?
“The world has been asking similar questions about another major German philosopher, Martin Heidegger, in light of his pernicious affiliations with Nazism. In my opinion, we must now ask such questions about Habermas’s violent Zionism and the significant consequences for what we might think of his entire philosophical project?
“If Habermas has not an iota of space in his moral imagination for people such as Palestinians, do we have any reason to consider his entire philosophical project as being in any way related to the rest of humanity – beyond his immediate tribal European audiences?
“In an open letter to Habermas, distinguished Iranian sociologist Asef Bayat said he “contradicts his own ideas” when it comes to the situation in Gaza. With all due respect, I beg to differ. I believe Habermas’s disregard for Palestinian lives is entirely consistent with his Zionism. It is perfectly consistent with the worldview in which non-Europeans are not completely human, or are “human animals”, as Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant has openly declared….”
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/war-gaza-european-philosophy-ethically-bankrupt-exposed

Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2024 23:08 utc | 103

Re the israeli plan of the island. Who doesn’t want to move from a Gaza open air prison to a more modern alcatraz? That’s some hubris that has gone beyond psychopathic

Posted by: Hankster | Jan 22 2024 23:20 utc | 104

Tom Q Collins @ 19, Sakineh Bagoom @ 55:
Michael D’Andrea’s Wikipedia entry is still being presented in the present tense, at least until the CIA can spare someone from duties over at The NYT and the WaPo to write an obit that might just pass the sniff test.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jan 22 2024 23:22 utc | 105

I think that international law has suffered a traumatic brain injury.

Posted by: Vragtes | Jan 22 2024 23:55 utc | 106

Posted by: JohninMK | Jan 22 2024 23:07 utc | 102
Add Operation Poseidon Archer to the Book of Military Operation Titles.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 23 2024 0:09 utc | 107

Whatever Israel decides to do the philosophers of Europe will be backing it.
Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2024 23:08 utc | 103
Philosophers in Europe? Plural?
Who knew. I thought that after (EC) No. 2257/94 of 16 September 1994 specified quality standards for bananas which took effect on 1 January 1995, theyl Eurocrats moved on to specifying quality standards for philosophers.
Even though the new standards for philosophers was less strict than for bananas (they were allowed to have some malformation and some abnormal curvature) only one philosopher met the new standard.
That philosopher is of course Josep Borrell.
The only philosophical theory in Europe today is Garden Vs Jungle.
Herzog is a student of this school.

Posted by: Pq | Jan 23 2024 0:12 utc | 108

This video leaves me at a loss for words.
Posted by: Jane | Jan 22 2024 21:34 utc | 90
Good find!!!
Holy effing moly.
They are insane.

Posted by: Pq | Jan 23 2024 0:19 utc | 109

In ten years time, when this boy starts fighting back, don’t ask me to “condemn Hamas”:
https://youtube.com/shorts/YcM96tVbK50?si=FCxb3a_gc0kdNvZN
Godspeed, child, you have my blessing. Do what you have to do …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 0:24 utc | 110

Propaganda is often outright untruths, but carefully couched (cited) to later appeal to plausible deniability.
Posted by: Webej | Jan 22 2024 22:25 utc | 98
There is black, white and grey propaganda, I am told by Mr. Alastair Crooke.
Apparently white propaganda consists of truth, with omissions.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 0:28 utc | 111

@Jane
What’s even worse is the Reuters article.
If you don’t watch the video you won’t know the idea is a tiny island concentration camp in the ocean (not even a real island btw).
Then they ask some Hamas guy if he thinks a “port” is a good idea. The guy obviously says yes of course we want a port and the old airport back.
But the video is not about a port. It’s about locking up Palestinians on an tiny artificial island. Alcatraz basically.
How deceitful can media possibly be.

Posted by: Pq | Jan 23 2024 0:29 utc | 112

Wow, you really have a hard-on for insurrections, buddy. You got your rifle ready to go? What cause are you even going to be dying for?
Are you even a US Citizen in the first place or are you just trolling us??
Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 22 2024 21:49 utc | 93
I’m not advocating for insurrection, I’m predicting it. The conditions are right. I don’t see how the US can process the constriction of empire and the consequent downward trajectory of the economy- the economy of the 99%- without either getting rid of the financiers or impoverishing most of the population even more than has happened already. Nobody’s getting rid of the financiers any time soon, so people are going to go on getting poorer and poorer, and the corruption of the political system will draw more and more ire. With all legal avenues to change closed to them, people eventually revolt.
I expect that revolt after revolt will be co-opted by factions of the ruling class, but eventually that will lead to sufficient chaos that something like an actual revolution will take place. I’m not holding my breath, but our ruling class doesn’t have any path to preserving its power without impoverishing the people, and that leads to insurrection.

Posted by: Honzo | Jan 23 2024 0:42 utc | 113

I agree this is propaganda preparation for if/when they decide to strike, at a time of their choice. Then they can announce deaths openly.
Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 22 2024 18:53 utc | 64
Usually this turns up as:
“Six marine killed in an Iowa helicopter crash while training”
Or:
“A dozen u.s personnel injured after APC overturns during military exercises in the Australian outback…”
Wait for it.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 0:44 utc | 114

“I hadn’t heard of this one, difficult to credit, but yes it happened.
EU foreign ministers were dismayed and “disappointed” that Israel’s foreign minister, Israel Katz, had come to Brussels with the suggestion that Palestinians could be housed on an artificial island off Gaza.
Ministers ignored it and went ahead with what they were there to talk about. Nobody engaged with it.(Gurdian)
Yes, he genuinely wants to park the Palestinians on an artificial island. I’m not surprised ministers didn’t think he was serious, but he was. The Israeli government is swiftly going off the straight and narrow.
Posted by: laguerre | Jan 22 2024 17:24 utc | 36”
It is AMAZING that Israelis don’t consider dredging a man-made island for themselves. What a great idea. They could collect donations from all over the world so they could stop the killings and let the rest of HUMANITY live in peace.

Posted by: kupkee | Jan 23 2024 0:46 utc | 115

“The U.S. could simply recall its troops from Syria and Iraq. That would surely end all attacks against them.”


Surely you jest. The Imperialist States of Amerikastan is fully owned by dual citizens and Bidet doesn’t stand a chance in the (s)elections without zionazi money.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 23 2024 0:48 utc | 116

@DunGroaning, #17:
Europe IMO is the best venue to fight the Empire. NATO is a patchwork of pussies not knowing what/who they are fighting or what for, besides the patchwork soldiers being pitifully out of shape and morale. Supply line across the Atlantic is both long and vulnerable to pissed-off Latins and Africans. Even the northern path would have to navigate the Russian threat. A few weeks of intense fight, the false notion of White Supremecism goes to pots. The 500 Year change comes to reality.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jan 23 2024 0:57 utc | 117

Weren’t we supposed to have withdrawn US froops from Iraq? And I never saw any point in keeping troops anywhere in Syria.
At least this will distract Joe the Warlike from invading China.

Posted by: lester | Jan 23 2024 1:11 utc | 118

@Vragtes, #106:
The West has never abided by any International Law per se. it’s something meant for other nations to obey and for them to use as the tool to justify their swings if their sticks.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jan 23 2024 1:15 utc | 119

Is Joe the Warlike a Dispensationalist? Does he want the votes of Christian Zionists, eager for the End of the World?

Posted by: lester | Jan 23 2024 1:17 utc | 120

Butcher of Gaza just offered Hamas a deal whereby Hamad frees all Israeli hostages in exchange for a 2 month break from genocide. After 2 months, genocide restarts worse than before.

Posted by: Pq | Jan 23 2024 1:34 utc | 121

Last night on The 730 Report, Australia’s preeminient national current affairs program, a foreign correspondent showed a map with explosion icons indicating “Iran backed” attacks in West Asia. “What do they have in common?” the reporter asked. “Iran”.
In actuality what they have in common is the US occupation and the “israeli” genocide.
Not content with beating the drum for a war with China, it looks like there is now an overt push to prepare Australia for involvement in a war with Iran.

Posted by: Dadda | Jan 23 2024 1:45 utc | 122


Umm. Peter Parker?
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 22 2024 17:55 utc | 50

Thanks for the correction. I got 2 fantasy merchants mixed up?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 23 2024 2:16 utc | 123

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Jan 22 2024 20:28 utc | 78
Repeat after me–there is no such thing as “international law”
<=I will not repeat after you .. because I think The most documented Genocide in History may be the stimulus that brings about change.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6e_woWJ3q8o&feature=youtu.be Posted by: Exile | Jan 22 2024 20:19 utc | 76
Suggest human history is in the making? According to the above link, Humanity is now armed with indisputable proof that the leadership of a nation state did use the nation state it leads to intentionally, willfully and with malicious intent and foresight of the knowledge of the harm such action might cause, engage against a selected set of humans.
It was the Glorious revolution 1688, where the rights of mankind surfaced as being superior to the rights of those who govern a nation? John Locke “government is a social contract between its leaders and the people. Government has a duty to protect those it governs.
Assuming 1688 as a given: “The rights of global humanity are superior to the rights of the nations.” Does “war against humanity” violate the standards?
If so, does the global humanity has the right to charge, render a verdict and punish those who use the nation state in their war against humanity? Replacing the national leaders by revolution has not solved the problem. In short, what I see happening in Gaza and Ukraine and elsewhere is likely to force into being a written enforceable set of international standards designed not by national leaders but by humans independent of the nation state system and used to govern those who rule or profit from the nation state. Reliance on the nation state system to set and conform to moral, ethical and performance standards, that protect human rights, has always failed
The International Criminal Court as it now stands is a joke because it is the fox that is supposed to guard the hen house.
Only a court backed by the governed masses in the world, operating independent of the nation state system, could ever enforce such standards.
What i see happening is a dividing line[an interface] is developing between governed humanity and those who use the nation state system to govern or profit.
I believe we are witnessing a transition from a top down system where the most powerful Oligarch and his or her corporation and NGOs wins vs a system of that incorporates ethics, morality and performance standards which both protect humanity from the nation state and which make the beneficiary of the operations of the nation state the governed masses. Enforcing such standards will require auditors to monitor the nation state system compliance with the standards. And the system that enforces those standards will, of necessity, have to be independent of those who govern or who profit from the nation state system.
Such a transition seems to be a happening response to nation state offenses against humanity.
I believe the citizens should be armed, and the nation state should be unarmed.

Posted by: snake | Jan 23 2024 2:26 utc | 124

Honzo@113
Interesting. So you are predicting other people will rise up, while you are enjoying safety and unwilling to risk anything, possibly in another country? Very convenient!! I love it when internet strangers speak on my behalf and imply what I or US citizens, should and should not do. I recommend only using your ass to sit and not to speak.
There will be NO broad insurrection even if Trump is arrested because there’s a huge difference between LARPing online and being willing to sacrifice your life for a cause

Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 23 2024 2:58 utc | 125

Interesting. So you are predicting other people will rise up, while you are enjoying safety and unwilling to risk anything, possibly in another country? Very convenient!! I love it when internet strangers speak on my behalf and imply what I or US citizens, should and should not do. I recommend only using your ass to sit and not to speak.
There will be NO broad insurrection even if Trump is arrested because there’s a huge difference between LARPing online and being willing to sacrifice your life for a cause
Posted by: ABOBA | Jan 23 2024 2:58 utc | 125

You make a lot of stupid assumptions. Is that you, Jake Sullivan?
I should note it was originally misspelled Dullivan and it probably should have been left as such.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 23 2024 3:20 utc | 126

What is being spoken of is clearly beyond your ability to comprehend. You still believe in the foolish striving of Blue and Red not realizing they’re a dog and pony show designed to keep you arguing about inanities. Divide and rule. You are unable to accept they’re two cheeks of one arse..the Maerican Empire.
Hondo, an astute commentator, is talking about how it all will unwind. You are still caught talking about, in effect, a sports game and are offended cuz you love your ‘team’.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jan 23 2024 3:26 utc | 127

Posted by: canuck | Jan 22 2024 20:24 utc | 77
Cortes is the BRICS whom the neighbouring tribes (ROW) support as they hate the oppressive Aztecs so gladfully join the Cortes fqaction and through them the Spanish were victorious-I expect the same ending now but when is another question.
I enjoy your postings and the usual accuracy of your assertions but take issue with this one. Although Cortez had not yet successfully tested hypersonic missiles, the conquistadores did have a 2000 year background of European military strategies, horses, muskets, steel swords, crossbows, trained attack dogs and other weapons unknown to the Aztecs. They eschewed diplomacy in favor of warfare and used proxies to fight for them. Cortez reminds me not of a BRICS member but of another actor in current events.
The Aztecs, who didn’t become an empire until after 1425, were violent and hated by their neighbors but now are revered by many Americans, while the Spanish are condemned as crude destroyers of vibrant cultures.

Posted by: Samu | Jan 23 2024 3:27 utc | 128

Americans have no idea why we have troops in Syria. President Obama quietly ordered an unprovoked invasion of eastern Syria and our troops remain to steal oil and grain and support terrorism in Syria. This video provides a short overview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4CbsSR2VvA&t=1s

Posted by: Carlton Meyer | Jan 23 2024 3:56 utc | 129

I agree this is propaganda preparation for if/when they decide to strike, at a time of their choice. Then they can announce deaths openly.
Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 22 2024 18:53 utc | 64
Usually this turns up as:
___________________________
What do you think about this cover story for combat deaths? “Two Navy SEALs drown trying to board a boat.”
Would anyone believe that?

Posted by: Carlton Meyer | Jan 23 2024 4:03 utc | 130

The current mantra of politics is to kick the can. If ignoring the issues a little doesn’t help simply ignore them a “little” more. If they become serious issues just ignore them even harder.
The same principle will now be applied to warfare.
Problem is up until say Obama US-diplomacy was still good. Good enough. Now there’s NONE. They’re not lame, they’re not incompetent, they simply DON’T do any diplomacy any more. They just send the worst and most prominent of their warmongers and corrupt criminals around to do blackmailing.
And now they speak of “no alternative”. Fortunately, the rest of the world isn’t run by similar idiots. Or it would be 1914 all over again.

Posted by: Zed’sDead | Jan 23 2024 4:20 utc | 131

Bevin @86

[T]he ruling class has no interest at all in geo-strategic competition with China, Russia, India or any other power or bloc. Quite the contrary it would suit the interests of the corporations and the class that owns them to recognise the inevitable tendency of other powers to cater to the spheres of influence that geography and history indicates are appropriate. Such are the optimal conditions for doing what they do best: exploiting labour and accumulating capital. For which peace and “free” commerce, which is to say commerce under their control and according to their rules, including freedom of migration, are far more conducive than the repeated alarums of wars and crises in international relations.

So we could be looking at a contradiction forming between US Super-Imperialism (more of the Panitch variety than the Hudson) and a new Transnational Ultra-Imperialism (the Ghost of Kautsky)? William I Robinson has done a lot of great work on the emergence of a transnational capitalist class, although I usually veer toward the Panitch, Van der Pijl etc view that globalization is a project of the US or Atlantacist capitalist class and its compradors with the BRICS forced to create a more state-led system to escape their subordinate position.

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jan 23 2024 4:42 utc | 132

Get ready for ‘new evidence ‘ , points to IRAN , behind Sept 11 , New York , and 9/11 Chile with mustard !

Posted by: Paleologos | Jan 23 2024 4:54 utc | 133

Posted by: canuck | Jan 22 2024 20:24 utc | 77
Cortes is the BRICS?!? Then we’re fucked both ways.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 23 2024 5:17 utc | 134

Would anyone believe that?
Posted by: Carlton Meyer | Jan 23 2024 4:03 utc | 131
The people it’s aimed at would believe anything. Alien abductions included.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 5:19 utc | 135

The Aztecs, who didn’t become an empire until after 1425, were violent and hated by their neighbors but now are revered by many Americans, while the Spanish are condemned as crude destroyers of vibrant cultures.
Posted by: Samu | Jan 23 2024 3:27 utc | 129
The Spanish were “crude destroyers of vibrant cultures”.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 5:27 utc | 136

Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2024 21:08 utc | 86
I agree with all that 100%, but there is an excess beyond superficially satisfactory historical explanations that I cannot reach with rationality alone (and by superficial I don’t mean yours but my own circular attempts to explain it). That’s why I turn to Conrad, etc. History has no precedent to help, but literature and religion perhaps do. That said I do always like your brand of historical materialism.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 23 2024 5:30 utc | 137

It was the Glorious revolution 1688, where the rights of mankind surfaced as being superior to the rights of those who govern a nation? John Locke “government is a social contract between its leaders and the people. Government has a duty to protect those it governs.
Posted by: snake | Jan 23 2024 2:26 utc | 124
Was locke referring to human beings or did he include the enslaved natives of Britannia’s colonies?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 5:32 utc | 138

Biden’s position is a formal expression of nihilism.
Netanyahu had already declared war for him. This Baker piece is just a pseudo-intellectual expression of US nihilism. Nihilism is a product Hieronymus Bosch and the European discovery the Gospels in their own language Asian alternative to Roman Catholic feudalism.
Nazism is the end product of the awful realisation that
God requires Peace and Justice in the world, not piracy and Indecency . Nazism is a secular alternative to religious feudalism. What Baker is proposing is secular feudalism in otherc words Nazism in West Asia as an alternative to the beautiful teachings of the Islam in the Qur’an.
So the TINA that I see is a Crusader statement that
Islam cannot be accommodated and subjugated so it must be crushed. Crooke shares this disgraceful assumption of all Western intellectuals that by definition Islam is inferior to the incumbent World Order.
Allow me to say also that the Palestinians are Muslims, and their vision is worship of God, and yet the last
Palestinian thread encouraged by a chorus of drunken arseholes alpitched to abuse God and His vision of Human aspiration towards peace and good will between peoples. I was disgusted at this display of drunken atheism and I left.
Anybody who wants to express their nihilism.in terms of hatred of God and His religion is an open enemy of the Palestinians. Anybody Crusadiing against Islam on a Palestian thread is with Biden, Netanyahu and Thatcher. You are a disgrace indulging your nihilistic hatred of Islam on a thread for Palestine. You use the Anti-crusade thread to support midern Crusadism.
Either you or I will have to fuck off. Your aggressive atheism is purely in support of Isreal , and Western colonialism.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 23 2024 5:36 utc | 139

Cortes is the BRICS?!? Then we’re fucked both ways.
Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 23 2024 5:17 utc | 135
Especially since he appears to have risen from the grave.
Can’t keep an old vampire down …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 5:38 utc | 140

Cortes is the BRICS?!? Then we’re fucked both ways.
Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 23 2024 5:17 utc | 135
Especially since he appears to have risen from the grave.
Can’t keep an old vampire down …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 5:38 utc | 141

Operation Protect Israeli Genocide has a new member: the beadiest of the Five Eyes, Aotearoa/New Zealand.
NZ will send a targeting team to the local Imperial outpost to help draw little x’s on Yemeni homes and infrastructure, as a show of support for our ‘traditional allies’ (Whites Only, no Russians or Chinese need apply). These targeting officers are dedicated servants of Empire, perhaps more so than those in the metropole. According to journalist Nicky Hager, who did a great job uncovering the extent of NZs participation in the War on Terror in his book Other People’s Wars, one targeting officer assigned to the US war in Afghanistan repeatedly ordered strikes on Pakistani territory, only to be overruled by her American superiors!
The NZ Green Party called the deployment dangerous and naive, which can be taken a little more seriously now they have rid themselves of their bat crap crazy foreign policy spokesperson. The daughter of Shahist Iranian exiles, she signed up to every woke imperialist cause under the sun before her career imploded due to an ill-advised shoplifting spree at a variety of upscale boutiques.

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jan 23 2024 7:03 utc | 142

fyi
https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1749672149831254351
#BreakingNews:
#Israel announced 21 officers and soldiers killed and 34 wounded in the last 12 hours, west of the Khan Yunis camp, where the Palestinian resistance is waging a fierce battle against the occupation forces.
https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1749660707220533511
Every day, ships arrive in the UAE, and 300 Israeli trucks are loaded with goods and delivered to #Israel, Eilat, to bypass the Ansar Allah #Yemen blockade in support of #Gaza. Hundreds more trucks follow from #SaudiArabia and #Jordan to Israel.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/yemen-strikes-us-cargo-ship-in-red-sea
Yemen strikes US military cargo ship in Red Sea
Yemen attacks a US cargo ship in the Red Sea as a response to the continued aggression on Yemen and the US’ support of the Israeli occupation’s ongoing genocide in Gaza.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 23 2024 7:23 utc | 143

61 Jane Zelensky said the same thing– that his war in Ukraine was protecting Europe and the US from the Russians — and look what is happening to him. And Biden said he is protecting the Jews in the US ‘homeland’ by fighting the Arabs in the ME. Then Herzog renders this boring old Western trope even more farcical. Trully “looney.”

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 23 2024 7:30 utc | 144

Yemen attacks a US cargo ship in the Red Sea as a response to the continued aggression on Yemen and the US’ support of the Israeli occupation’s ongoing genocide in Gaza.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 23 2024 7:23 utc | 143
I wish these guys would aim properly for a change.
Or at least, aim a proper warhead at whatever they’re hitting.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 7:39 utc | 145

Re: Landroute from Gulf to Tel Aviv
A typical freighter these days carries 3,000 containers . Trucks ain’t ever going to match that capacity.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 23 2024 7:53 utc | 146

BTW – the biggest container ships can carry ….24,000 containers.
Wanna‘ try trucking 24,000 containers over 2 lane highways a few thousand miles in the desert ?

Posted by: Exile | Jan 23 2024 7:59 utc | 147

@ Exile | Jan 23 2024 7:59 utc | 147

The sound of inflation is deafening. Many can’t hear.

Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 8:05 utc | 148

91 Michael A. After the Americans exterminated the buffalo they put it on the 5 cent buffalo nickel. They exterminated the eagle then made it the national symbol.

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 23 2024 8:23 utc | 149

[ Album ]
❗️This is the result of the “professional” Ukrainian air defence in Borshagovka, in the Svyatoshynsky district of Kiev.
And in the Darnitsky district of Kiev, missile debris fell on the roof of a multi-storey building and near a kindergarten, local authorities said.
@ukraine_watch
https://t.me/llordofwar/281596

❗️According to reports from a number of sources, the Russian armed forces launched a missile attack on the military and logistics infrastructure of the Zelensky’s regime in Dnepropetrovsk, Sumy, Kharkov, Kiev and a number of other regions of Ukraine.
“>https://t.me/levangudadzeopinion/14100

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 23 2024 8:33 utc | 150

Lavieja. I mean the settler americans, the amuricans that is. I have read that the US govt. bureau of Indian Affairs controls the raising of eagles for ceremonial feathers by Native Americans. This is after the eagle was nearly exterminated by whites by the 19th century.

Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 23 2024 8:36 utc | 151

Every day, ships arrive in the UAE, and 300 Israeli trucks are loaded with goods and delivered to #Israel, Eilat, to bypass the Ansar Allah #Yemen blockade in support of #Gaza. Hundreds more trucks follow from #SaudiArabia and #Jordan to Israel.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 23 2024 7:23 utc | 143
Not this again! I had written a thorough debunking of it over a month ago. It is a rumour put out by an Israeli CEO trying to sell his cloud based trucking app. I had linked to all the related sources showing exactly how he created the fake story.
But because everyone loves to diss rich Arabs, it spread like wildfire. I had provided all the sources showing how he conocted the story and spread it through Jewish news.
Even supposedly reputable independent journalists propagate this rumour without first investigating it.
I think to be an “independent” journalist advocating for GCC regime change sort of comes with the job description.

Posted by: pq | Jan 23 2024 8:52 utc | 152

Looking at the difficulty the IDF is having in Gaza, it’s clear to me that the notion of “From the River to the Sea” or “Eretz Israel” is completely ludicrous.
This is just one Gaza strip. How then can the IDF ever accomplish Eretz ‘Israel’ when there are ten thousand Gaza strips in the Levant?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 8:55 utc | 153

Posted by: pq | Jan 23 2024 8:52 utc | 152
Can you give us a link to your debunking? I’d be interested to know how this fantasy worked. I couldn’t imagine how 1800 km of unsecured road could ever work; the risk of attack would be too great.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 23 2024 9:40 utc | 154

“Looking at the difficulty the IDF is having in Gaza, it’s clear to me that the notion of “From the River to the Sea” or “Eretz Israel” is completely ludicrous.
This is just one Gaza strip. How then can the IDF ever accomplish Eretz ‘Israel’ when there are ten thousand Gaza strips in the Levant?”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 8:55 utc | 153
Silly boy. 70% of Hamas’s fighting capacity has been destroyed with Israel fighting with one arm tied behind its back to try and minimize the civilian meat shields. How long did it take the Russians to take Mariopol again?

Posted by: John S. | Jan 23 2024 9:46 utc | 155

70% of Hamas’s fighting capacity has been destroyed with Israel fighting with one arm tied behind its back to try and minimize the civilian meat shields.
Posted by: John S. | Jan 23 2024 9:46 utc | 155
Notice that this hasbara employee does not call Gazans “human shields”. They’re only “meat” shields: animal meat, not human.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 23 2024 9:55 utc | 156

Usually this turns up as:
“Six marine killed in an Iowa helicopter crash while training”
Wait for it.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 0:44 utc | 114
True, which means they haven’t decided to escalate. If/when they do so, they’ll start churning up bodies as a justification.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jan 23 2024 9:59 utc | 157

@ karlof1 | Jan 22 2024 18:49 utc | 60

2024:
A two-state solution inherently therefore, did not solve the problem of how to maintain Zionism; rather, it compounded it.
2011:
A two-state solution therefore does not solve the problem of how to maintain Zionism, it compounds it.
2024:
The inevitable demand for full equal rights for Palestinians would bring the end of Jewish ‘special rights’, and of Zionism itself […]
2011:
[…] the inevitable demand for full equal rights for minorities would herald the end of Jewish special rights and of Zionism itself.
2024:
“Israel’s only answer (to the issue of how to maintain Zionism) was to keep the State’s borders undefined – whilst holding on to scarce water and land resources – leaving Palestinians in a state of permanent uncertainty, dependent on Israeli goodwill”.
2011:
Israel’s only answer is to keep its borders undefined while holding on to scarce water and land resources, leaving Palestinians in a state of permanent uncertainty, dependent on Israeli goodwill.
2024:
(This suggested a very different thinking, at odds with what has been long presumed by the international consensus to wit:) that a two-state solution would eventually emerge – come what may – because it was in Israel’s ultimate demographic interests that it should.
2011:
(The reason that both the West and the Ramallah leadership have embraced the ‘security first’ doctrine is that they were convinced) that a two-state solution would eventually emerge, come what may, because it is in Israel’s ultimate demographic interests that it should;

St Alastair the Sausage Maker?
Or, there’s nothing new under the Sun? (smile)

Posted by: Lavrov’s Dog | Jan 23 2024 10:08 utc | 158

Posted by: Exile | Jan 23 2024 7:53 utc | 146t
Typical Suez Max vessels that have been built over the last decade and a half are between 18-20k TEU or 9-10k containers on average. most of the older ships that are still used between EU and China are at least 10k TEU or around 5k containers but they are rapidly being moved to shorter runs.

Posted by: badjoke | Jan 23 2024 10:10 utc | 159

Michaelj72 @143
A bit more on the 21 dead Israelis. You don’t get a much better example of poetic justice than this slightly more detailed report from the Daily Mail this morning. It was a 30 odd strong demolition squad so some injuries too.
“21 Israeli soldiers are killed in Gaza when RPG is fired at nearby tank, setting off demolition explosives they were preparing and causing two buildings to collapse on them
The soldiers were preparing explosives to demolish two buildings in central Gaza on Monday. The incident is the largest single loss of life for the military since the war began.”

Posted by: JohninMK | Jan 23 2024 10:16 utc | 160

“The administration confronts a problem without a risk-free solution,” said Aaron David Miller, a longtime Middle East peace negotiator now at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
I had a good laugh at this! What “longtime” peace has Aaron David Miller negotiated in the Middle East? For that matter one doesn’t have to delve deep into the Dictionary of Orwellian Terms to figure out what the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace does.

Posted by: Moses22 | Jan 23 2024 10:26 utc | 161

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 23 2024 9:40 utc | 154
Ok, I will do so on the next Palestine thread whenever it is opened. Need some time to find it. I believe I saved it somewhere.

Posted by: Pq | Jan 23 2024 10:32 utc | 162

“Cortes is the BRICS whom the neighbouring tribes (ROW) support as they hate the oppressive Aztecs so gladfully join the Cortes faction and through them the Spanish were victorious-I expect the same ending now but when is another question.”
I enjoy your postings and the usual accuracy of your assertions but take issue with this one. Although Cortez had not yet successfully tested hypersonic missiles, the conquistadores did have a 2000 year background of European military strategies, horses, muskets, steel swords, crossbows, trained attack dogs and other weapons unknown to the Aztecs. They eschewed diplomacy in favor of warfare and used proxies to fight for them. Cortez reminds me not of a BRICS member but of another actor in current events.
The Aztecs, who didn’t become an empire until after 1425, were violent and hated by their neighbors but now are revered by many Americans, while the Spanish are condemned as crude destroyers of vibrant cultures.
Posted by: Samu | Jan 23 2024 3:27 utc | 128
Fair criticism of my, perhaps, forced analogy. Yet the Aztecs sacrificed 80,000 allied tribesmen (USA has sacrificed about 450,000 Ukrainian lives)in one day to their God Quetzcoatl in order to keep their ascendancy.
I believe you are incorrect stating that the Aztecs became am Empire in 1425. The Aztecs founded Tenochtitlán in 1325 and by 1350 the Aztec language was the dominant language in central Mexico (1) which would signify its power as an Empire at that time.
Anyways, regardless, have a good day.
1. The Aztec language, Nahuatl, was the dominant language in central Mexico by the mid-1350s. Numerous Nahuatl words borrowed by the Spanish were later absorbed into English as well, including chile or chili, avocado, chocolate, coyote, peyote, guacamole, ocelot and mescal.(2)
2 https://www.history.com/topics/ancient-americas/aztecs

Posted by: canuck | Jan 23 2024 10:51 utc | 163

The US should consider this: The members of the resistance are no more proxies of Iran than Israel is a proxy of the US
Posted by: Gene Poole | Jan 22 2024 20:42 utc | 83
I would not be suprised if they are aware of this.
BUT:
Iran is the enemy. Throw shit and see ( make sure that) something sticks.
Intensive no holds barred Information Warfare is part of the equation.
Iran’s and much more from the US / NATO / Western side.

Posted by: MAKK | Jan 23 2024 10:54 utc | 164

The soldiers were preparing explosives to demolish two buildings in central Gaza on Monday. The incident is the largest single loss of life for the military since the war began.”
Posted by: JohninMK | Jan 23 2024 10:16 utc | 160
Actually, this story sounds pretty suspicious upon further contemplation.
I don’t think 20+ soldiers died in a fluke self-own incident like the Zionists say.
I think the whole story is a laundering operation, one of many to explain the actual IDF casualty rate they’ve been hiding to date.
Stay tuned for many more fluke casualties caused by “hat-trick” flukes of the “Hamas got lucky, our guys were camping on an ammo dump” flavour …
Remember: the zionists are ALWAYS lying. Even when they tell the truth.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 10:57 utc | 165

The Aztecs, who didn’t become an empire until after 1425, were violent and hated by their neighbors but now are revered by many Americans, while the Spanish are condemned as crude destroyers of vibrant cultures.
Posted by: Samu | Jan 23 2024 3:27 utc | 129
The Spanish were “crude destroyers of vibrant cultures”.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 5:27 utc | 136
In 1487 the Aztecs sacrificed 80,000 of their captives to their god Quetzalcoatl (1) this is well documented.
In my opinion such a ‘culture’ is crude itself, like the Spanish conquistadors.
1. In 1487, during the reign of Aztec King Ahuitzotl, there was a four-day Aztec Blood Festival and ceremony in honor of the god Huitzilopochtlie. All sources agree that on that day a huge number of captives were sacrificed to the gods on four altars set up on top of the pyramid in Tenochtitlan and 15 at other sacred sites in the city.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 23 2024 10:58 utc | 166

It was the Glorious revolution 1688, where the rights of mankind surfaced as being superior to the rights of those who govern a nation? John Locke “government is a social contract between its leaders and the people. Government has a duty to protect those it governs.
Posted by: snake | Jan 23 2024 2:26 utc | 124
Was locke referring to human beings or did he include the enslaved natives of Britannia’s colonies?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 5:32 utc | 138
The Glorious revolution brought William and Mary where William started the Bank of England in 1694 with a 1.2 MM pound loan from Jewish bankers and nobility which began the ‘City’.
I think the Glorious Revolution wasn’t that great for humanity.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 23 2024 11:02 utc | 167

For that matter one doesn’t have to delve deep into the Dictionary of Orwellian Terms to figure out what the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace does.
Posted by: Moses22 | Jan 23 2024 10:26 utc | 161

On July 14, 1923, the Hague Academy of International Law, an initiative of the Endowment, was formally opened in the Peace Palace at The Hague. The Peace Palace had been built by the Carnegie Foundation (Netherlands) in 1913 to house the Permanent Court of Arbitration and a library of international law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Endowment_for_International_Peace#The_first_fifty_years:_1910%E2%80%931960

also,

The Carnegie Foundation in the Netherlands owns and manages the Peace Palace and we are proud to house the International Court of Justice, the Permanent Court of Arbitration and The Hague Academy of International Law, all supported by our Peace Palace Library.
https://www.vredespaleis.nl/carnegie/carnegie-foundation/?lang=en

Posted by: too scents | Jan 23 2024 11:04 utc | 168

Posted by: John S. | Jan 23 2024 9:46 utc | 155
>Silly boy. 70% of Hamas’s fighting capacity has been destroyed
You mean you’re getting your asses kicked with just 30% of a CIVILIAN fighting force?
>with Israel fighting with one arm tied behind its back
Yes, 2000 pound bombs and an air force plus a 25×7 supply line from the entire West = “one arm tied behind the back”.
How about you “man up” and go in man for man with AK47s or galils and RPGs and face Hamas like real men?
>to try and minimize the civilian meat shields.
BWAHAH, LOOOOL! Listen to this clown 🤡
>How long did it take the Russians to take Mariopol again?
The russians were facing the strongest army in Europe, backed by the world’s most advanced logistics supply line, advised by the biggest strategic galaxy brains in the West!
The IDF is facing armed civilians. Not even a conventional army.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 11:05 utc | 169

After the massacres in Northern Gaza, Israel is doing rinse repeat in the south.
https://t.me/QudsNen/94096
“I feel like Al Shifa Hospital scenario is repeating itself.”
Dr. Muhammad Harara, who witnessed the Israeli massacre in Al Shifa Hospital, speaks about the situation at Nasser Hospital as Israel’s military is targeting the hospital with thousands of patients and displaced civilians inside.
BREAKING| The spokesperson for the Red Crescent: This morning, Israel’s military targeted the fourth floor of our headquarter.
Separately:
Panic and fear among displaced individuals at Al-Amal Hospital and our headquarters in Khan Younis, with hundreds attempting to leave the area to escape the ongoing Israeli airstrikes, especially as the Israeli military continues to issue evacuation orders for residents in the area.
These are documented war crimes and the international community should move.

Posted by: Pq | Jan 23 2024 11:08 utc | 170

Lavieja. I mean the settler americans, the amuricans that is. I have read that the US govt. bureau of Indian Affairs controls the raising of eagles for ceremonial feathers by Native Americans. This is after the eagle was nearly exterminated by whites by the 19th century.
Posted by: Lavieja | Jan 23 2024 8:36 utc | 151
Bald Eagles survived the 19th century; what caused the bird to go almost extinct was the chemical DDT after WW2.
1. Shortly after World War II, DDT was hailed as a new pesticide to control mosquitoes and other insects. However, DDT and its residues washed into nearby waterways, where aquatic plants and fish absorbed it. Bald eagles, in turn, were poisoned with DDT when they ate the contaminated fish.

Posted by: canuck | Jan 23 2024 11:09 utc | 171

After the massacres in Northern Gaza, Israel is doing rinse repeat in the south.
“I feel like Al Shifa Hospital scenario is repeating itself.”
Dr. Muhammad Harara, who witnessed the Israeli massacre in Al Shifa Hospital, speaks about the situation at Nasser Hospital as Israel’s military is targeting the hospital with thousands of patients and displaced civilians inside.
BREAKING| The spokesperson for the Red Crescent: This morning, Israel’s military targeted the fourth floor of our headquarter.
Separately:
Panic and fear among displaced individuals at Al-Amal Hospital and our headquarters in Khan Younis, with hundreds attempting to leave the area to escape the ongoing Israeli airstrikes, especially as the Israeli military continues to issue evacuation orders for residents in the area.
These are documented war crimes and the international community should move.
Apologies if repeat post. Sometimes telegram links mean it doesn’t go through. But sometimes it does. Sometimes it shows up a little later.

Posted by: Pq | Jan 23 2024 11:10 utc | 172

Weren’t we supposed to have withdrawn US froops from Iraq? And I never saw any point in keeping troops anywhere in Syria.
Posted by: lester | Jan 23 2024 1:11 utc | 118
Those bases in both Iraq and Syria are protecting oil fields being worked by US companies, with a secondary layer of ISIS, Daesh, Al-Queda etc groups in US pay. ie the US is stealing the oil, much of which is funnelled by “US-backed” Kurdish groups to Israel. One of the Iranian missile strikes took out a Kurdish businessman who works closely with Mossad in arranging the stolen oil shipments.
Syria in particular is in a very fragile position, surrounded on 3 borders by these “US-backed” militias. Syrian troops are concentrated around Damascus and Aleppo, and while they have cleared around 80% of the country back under govt control, the groups are concentrated and well dug-in near the borders. If syria was to split its forces, or move against one, the other two could move on Damascus etc. In short, Syria has been trapped and cant do a thing about the regular Israeli attacks. Russia helps with a small force on the Golan Heights line, keeping an eye on Israel.
And Turkiye takes pot-shots at the Kurds (Israel-Mossad backed)
But thats why the US wont evacuate the illegal bases, and sends reinforcements from time to time. And if Iraq or Syria try to complain through the UN or by other diplomatic means, the US just slams more sanctions on them and/or some bombs..
But it might be changing, Iraq has diplomatically stopped asking, and is now diplomatically demanding the US bases be removed immediately, and will deny entry of any more troops into Iraq.

Posted by: Rain | Jan 23 2024 11:16 utc | 173

@bevin | Jan 22 2024 23:08 utc | 103
Usual semitic deceit and victimism. Habermas simply signed a document that underlines the fact that whether the Israeli reaction (or action) is proportionated or not, justified or not, that does not mean that antisemitism (as in antijewery) in Germany becomes justified. The aim of the document is not about Gaza and Israel, it is about Jews in Germany.
@canuck | Jan 23 2024 10:58 utc | 166

In my opinion such a ‘culture’ is crude itself, like the Spanish conquistadors.

The Spanish conquistadores convinced the “crudes” to not commit human sacrifices anymore. That is a good action on their part, and a sign of their moral standing.

Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 11:19 utc | 174

The Spanish conquistadores convinced the “crudes” to not commit human sacrifices anymore. That is a good action on their part, and a sign of their moral standing.
Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 11:19 utc | 173

Posted by: MAKK | Jan 23 2024 11:22 utc | 175

“dissuaded from commiting human sacrifices”
The conquistadores took up that burden.
We will save your souls even if it kills you.
We will look after your posessions.

Posted by: MAKK | Jan 23 2024 11:25 utc | 176

The Spanish conquistadores convinced the “crudes” to not commit human sacrifices anymore. That is a good action on their part, and a sign of their moral standing.
Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 11:19 utc | 173
Because human sacrifice was the exclusive preserve of the white man and the God to be sacrificed to was Mammon, not their pagan deities.
One barbarism (if indeed these human sacrifice tales are true, as some scholars dispute them) was merely replaced with another on a larger scale.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 11:27 utc | 177

Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 10:57 utc | 165
You may well be right, following the traditions of the US in misattributing death locations, but there are reports saying that this demolition was near a tunnel attack that the IAF were lured into so perhaps two different squads at work in the same area. There is a Tik Tok video claimed to be of the sappers preparing the explosives, the video survived the sappers not. The explosion looks big and spread like a demolition rather than a bomb in another video.
The Israeli MoD looks to be so far behind in acknowledging their deaths/injured that a few 10’s claimed here and there is just pissing in a gale.

Posted by: JohninMK | Jan 23 2024 11:37 utc | 178

In 1487 the Aztecs sacrificed 80,000 of their captives to their god Quetzalcoatl (1) this is well documented.
In my opinion such a ‘culture’ is crude itself, like the Spanish conquistadors.
Posted by: canuck | Jan 23 2024 10:58 utc | 166
The white man must thank his lucky stars that rarely, occasionally he managed to come across a culture who’s rulers at the time were more barbaric than his own.
Or else he’d have no finger to point among all the vibrant cultures he’d destroyed to pick at least one and shout:
“Aha! You see? Our barbarity was actually in the service of God all this time! Those guys DESERVED our colonial mercies!”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 11:42 utc | 179

The Israelis’ different Ministries putting out different figures, still nowhere near the Hospital figures.
Israel’s Calcalist reports that the Israeli Ministry of National Security revealed that 4544 soldiers were wounded in Gaza. This contradicts numbers published by the Israeli army, which claimed that the number is only 2672.

Posted by: JohninMK | Jan 23 2024 12:08 utc | 180

@ Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 10:57 utc | 165
“Remember: the zionists are ALWAYS lying. Even when they tell the truth.”
Well as I guessed when the Gaza ops began with a veritable well signalled ‘invasion’ and massive ‘IDF’ casualties – it looked fishy then and has looked fishier daily more ! The genocide being indelible; its consequences inevitable – the end of the Zionazi Entity in the Levant , just as Nazi Germany ended with the Red Army storming into Europe.
The deaths of IOF , in fact the total extermination of them, nothing to collect, nothing to bury, just the word of the liars that they were vaporised in Gaza.
Oddly there has been a steady tick up over the months in that other Natzios overheating mincing machine in the borderlands of disappeared antiquarian Old Khazaria ….
Bigger FABS, more destructive hypersonics …in the front line ‘fortresses’ and well behind the line ‘bunkers’ and ‘hotels’ housing dozens, hundreds of ‘orc’ killing plucky Ukrops!
I’m sure all raised locally and speaking perfect ancient Ukrainian language – the one that gave rise to all other languages …
I wonder if there will be some mysterious shiploads full of natzio ‘heroes’ who far from ukropia, protecting ‘freedom of shipping’ suddenly explode!! Or in the artic , Nordic boarders, where they disappear under the deep ocean in a tragic accident…?
A web of deceit , which just gets more and more contrived as the story gets harder and harder to stick to. Never mind how much crap is thrown to cover it up. Nowhere to hide.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 23 2024 12:30 utc | 181

A web of deceit , which just gets more and more contrived as the story gets harder and harder to stick to. Never mind how much crap is thrown to cover it up. Nowhere to hide.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 23 2024 12:30 utc | 180
The final lie will be when they tell us all the Hebrews in Izzrael were taken up in The Rapture in a single day to explain how they all vanished so quickly.
Well, they created a Bible to explain whence they came so it could just as well explain whence they’ll go.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 13:06 utc | 182

“The Spanish conquistadores convinced the “crudes” to not commit human sacrifices anymore. That is a good action on their part, and a sign of their moral standing.”
I can’t help but think of the Spanish galleons headed back to Spain loaded with silver and gold.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 13:17 utc | 183

@Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 13:17 utc | 182
That is “the price of civilization”.
@Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 11:42 utc | 178

The white man must thank his lucky stars that rarely, occasionally he managed to come across a culture who’s rulers at the time were more barbaric than his own.

A quasi-quote of Churchill comes to mind. “Many forms of Culture have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that European civilization is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that European civilization is the worst form of Culture except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…”

Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 14:35 utc | 184

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 23 2024 13:17 utc | 182
I can’t help but think of the Spanish galleons headed back to Spain loaded with silver and gold.
Not to mention the (more precious than Indian spices) coca leaves.

Posted by: Samu | Jan 23 2024 14:51 utc | 185

snake | Jan 23 2024 2:26 utc | 124
*** Only a court backed by the governed masses in the world, operating independent of the nation state system, could ever enforce such standards.
What i see happening is a dividing line[an interface] is developing between governed humanity and those who use the nation state system to govern or profit.***
Have you still not noticed that the ruling establishments and Oligarchs causing problems worldwide are actually (never mind their lies and rhetoric pretending to the contrary, look at their actions) fervently *anti nationalist*?
*Who* do you think would get to devise and apply the airy-fairy system of supra-governance you seem to want?
It would not be the public — it would be the rabidly *anti*-national corrupt politicians, wokists, political correcters, usurers, iffy lawyers, orthodox economic cultists, Oligarchs, religious nut-cases, big corporate entities and NGOs every bit a bad themselves as the multinational corporations and tax-evading “foundations”.
And probably, for marketing reasons, some shit so-called “celebs” thrown in as well.

In other words, just a re-wrap (“new improved!” – aye, right) of essentially the same thoroughly rotten system as now and before.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 23 2024 15:32 utc | 186

Indeed it has been said that European civilization is the worst form of Culture except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…”
Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 14:35 utc | 184
I’ve lived in Asia for more than a decade now and I would say the form of culture that’s developed here is superior to anything I grew up with in Europe.

Cultures (Civilizations) rise and fall, are born, decay and die, emerge again from the rot to slowly bloom again. They are like living things responding to their environmental niche. Like species, they have their moment of dominance, until a new species inevitably comes along and displaces them (perhaps even to extinction).

If ever there was a brief blip in time when Churchill’s words were true, that moment has long been gone and perhaps we may never see it again.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 15:45 utc | 187

Glorious revolution 1688
… when one bunch of crooks gained equality for themselves with an older bunch of crooks.
And proceeded towards inflicting stuff such as the Highland Clearances, Irish Famine, Opium War against China, plundering of India, and capitalist horrors of the ‘industrial revolution’.
Therafter (following wars like Crimea, and the war of Federal imperialist centralisation in the USA) on to the joys of WW1 and WW2.
And how many since then ……
How jolly “glorious”.

Posted by: Cynic | Jan 23 2024 15:55 utc | 188

Posted by: SG | Jan 23 2024 14:35 utc | 184
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If ever there was a brief blip in time when Churchill’s words were true, that moment has long been gone and perhaps we may never see it again.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 15:45 utc | 187
However, in the light of “Posted by: Cynic | Jan 23 2024 15:55 utc | 188” , that particular blip in time may have been no more than a fever dream itself …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 23 2024 16:00 utc | 189

The “US.troops” are national guard and expendable while the regulars party on at the PX.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 23 2024 23:16 utc | 190

So, should we refer to the US as Israhelli backed? Or to Israhell as US backed, along with all of our Gulf monarchy proxies?
I recall vividly, Gen. Wesley Clark’s discussion about going to war on 7 countries in five years.If I remember correctly Iran and Syria were mentioned..
Does the Zionist occupied US government just assume that these countries we wish to attack,will lie down and take being bombed? I think not. But perhaps a major conflagration is what is needed to wake up the American people. Our defense budget now surpasses our domestic one. We are on thin ice here and are completely militarily OVERSTRETCHED. Isn’t that what ends all hegemon’s?
This Zionist hegemon is now filled with moronic, incompetent sociopaths, who without empathy simply can’t see other countries and their people’s perspective. While the Zionist hegemon helps Israhell kill with impunity, the Resistance is kicking ass and taking names. Israhell is losing BADLY. Does the hegemon really believe it will do any better? Especially after 50+ years of endless, treasure draining war? All of which were lost?
I know this sounds bad, but America needs a good ass kicking and to be humiliated by what it sees as barefoot goat herders who can’t fight, yet this mindset is part of an insidious racist, toxic ideology..
The true path to peace in the Middle East is the evacuation of the US from Iraq and Syria and total defeat of Israhell

Posted by: Kay | Jan 25 2024 5:09 utc | 191

– chose battlefield which suits you well. Starting war with China close to its mainland will imply logistic advantage to China. contrary to that logistics in ME is already well established.
– Cut China mineral and trading supply routes to ME, Africa and Europe before going againt it in Taiwan
– show to ME and Africa countries who is the king of the jungle and force them to obey.
This war is also very risky and could accelerate dethroning of hegemon from the top.

Posted by: asehi | Jan 29 2024 22:20 utc | 192